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mircea_popescu: What do you get when ego and id aren't in conflict, in fact, they team up, against a common enemy-- reality? A reality which must often be denied in order to get some id-iPal satisfaction? You get America. What do you get when you get so good at denial, that you extend it to the inevitable? You get American zombies: denial of death.
mircea_popescu: The Walking Dead is a uniquely American show, about Americans. It depicts the unconscious processes involved in death and mourning with perfect articulation, because it is founded on denying what is obvious to everyone. "No," it says, "this is different."
pete_dushenski: lol i can imagine mp writing his way out of a 300-year "death senctence" in well less than decade.
mircea_popescu: i can't really imagine mp doing much more than mocking the parole board.
mircea_popescu: well no, that doesn't work. by the time the power differential's inclined like that, the prison is a walled compound called the kremlin or something.
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pete_dushenski: 'wonko the sane' keeping the toothpick-naive masses at bay
pete_dushenski: take the 'conclusions' with a grain of salt. well, probably the graphs too.
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mircea_popescu: "I don't expect journalists or anyone else to be free of moral ambiguity, but it should be a postulate that if you choose to write those words you should not also be having sex with your daughter. Allegedly.
mircea_popescu: David Epstein, HuffPo-Mo blogger and Columbia professor of Applied Po-Mo allegedly had a sexual relationship with his 24 year old daughter. "
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pete_dushenski: "In the day of Eric Harris, we could try to console ourselves with the thought that there was nothing we could do, that no law or intervention or restrictions on guns could make a difference in the face of someone so evil. But the riot has now engulfed the boys who were once content to play with chemistry sets in the basement. The problem is not that there is an endless supply of deeply disturbed young men who
pete_dushenski: are willing to contemplate horrific acts. It’s worse. It’s that young men no longer need to be deeply disturbed to contemplate horrific acts.
pete_dushenski: this is exactly correct, even relatively middle of the road folks are seeing how shit the usa has become and are now taking matters into their own hands
pete_dushenski: disillusioned with the hopes of 'representative democracy' and disinterested in reforming a system quite obviously beyond repair, they take matters into their own hands.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> da fuck is a pomo << Post Modern
mircea_popescu: but hey, they at least "stopped bullying". and also rape!
mircea_popescu: good for them. time to get shot, for no reason, straight in the gut.
mircea_popescu: "But what you need to get out of these stories is how this generation and forwards will deal with guilt: externalizing it, converting it to shame, and then taking solace in the pockets of support that inevitably arise. Everyone is famous to 15 people, and that's just enough people to help you sleep at night.
mircea_popescu: It is, in effect, crowdsourcing the superego, and when that expression catches on remember where you first heard it."
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this is SO tardstalk/altcoinforum/reddit/whathaveyou it bleeds.
trinque: I was just about to quote that very line.
trinque: every bizarre you-don't-understand internet subculture ever.
mircea_popescu: Now incest-- terrible, we all agree << we do not all agree.
mircea_popescu: da fuck is this "we all agree" insanity device. there is NOT ONE SINGLE OUGHT "we" all agree on.,
pete_dushenski: "The world’s most powerful two-phase immersion cooling (2PIC) project, which will be deployed in a 40+ MW data center being constructed by BitFury Group, is currently underway in the Republic of Georgia."
pete_dushenski: not quite the cooled gas immersion you'd recommended, but on the way
mircea_popescu: "That unpleasant moment when "principles" you were supporting ~strictly~ because "of the principle of the thing" and pointedly not because of the convenient manner in which they worked upon a restricted set of circumstances decide to move on to another set of circumstances and work consistently but against your (inconsistent) preference. The only thing to do is look away."
mircea_popescu: ^that happens to be the title of the next trilema article.
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assbot: The reason fathers hope for sons is because they’re too dumb to handle daughters. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1GF6ltd )
pete_dushenski: also from the contravex comments section : "Must be hard to pretend to be so smart when all you have is a firm grasp of language."
pete_dushenski: a couple comments on jack baruth's site lit off quite the vitriolic firestorm.
pete_dushenski: "the point is Latin hasn’t been in common use for a long time outside of the Holy See. using a Latin phrase for which there is an exact equivalent English term is little more than the intellectual way to talk down to someone."
pete_dushenski: "I would not be surprised to find out that you work as a plant security guard for just above minimum wage, on a night shift, where you use your time reading to try to be able to impress others with your intelligence, or that you live in a basement apartment, or drive a 2o year old junker."
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pete_dushenski: "I never pushed anyone into a locker in my life, but pompous assholes like yourself make me wish we had gone to HS together."
pete_dushenski: "I didn’t realize you were one of the dudes from LMFAO. Much respect"
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deedbot-: [Trilema] That unpleasant moment when "principles" you were supporting ~strictly~ because "of the principle of the thing" and pointedly not because of the convenient manner in which they worked upon a restricted set of circumstances decide to move on to another set of circumstances and work consistently but against your (inconsistent) preference. The only thing to do is look away. -
http://trilema.com/2015/that- mircea_popescu: for the record, using the original latin phrases over their vernacular "just as good" later "equivalents" is not merely and not just talking down to some (the "intellectual" equivalent is nonsense, but let's ignore it).
mircea_popescu: they are the sign of a commitment, that is very much alligned with what v is, and with why we have the bitcoind we have, and the foundation we have, and everything else.
mircea_popescu: they are also the sigh of a disavowal, the manifestation of how we desipse the ruminants.
mircea_popescu: no, no matter how "accepted" your vernacular gets, it will NEVER supersede Latin. because it's not a "consumers have come to expect" thing. nothing is.
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mircea_popescu: "Shame will never be enough-- when your identity is "strong" enough nothing shames you, not a sex tape or a prison term, you'll take that scarlet letter and put it on a tight tank top and wear it ironically, not to mention hotly." << he happens to be exactly rtight, by the way.
mircea_popescu: the reason we insist females be "bashful" ie, ashamed to desnude in public is that an overactive shame IMPLIES a weak personality
mircea_popescu: meanwhile a guy that's ashamed of going to football practice / army bootcamp / school in the buff is... not really a man.
mircea_popescu: which is why alley flashers are all ~marginal~ men. the device works exactly like the homeless dragging around broken ipads works. "hey, i might be refuse, but at least X!"
mircea_popescu: (and obvioujsly, the most enraged by the shameless hussies are the old household women. because they know that her weakness is the only prayer they got.)
mircea_popescu: if it were sympathetic magic they'd be in the strip club
mircea_popescu: (with sex, unlike money, sympathetic magic works. can for instance fuck a girl's friends to fuck her.)
mircea_popescu: for that matter, the more sex you have, and the more exposed to it they be, the more likely. and so on.
mircea_popescu: in fact the most important "why did you fuck ?" answer on porn set is "well, wanted to try it out"
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mircea_popescu: "I'd also like to address my family, if you can call them that. I despise everything they stand for and I truly hate them, in a non-emotional, dispassionate and what I believe is a healthy way. The world will be a better place when they're dead--one with less hatred and intolerance." << above quoted guy's son, in his suicide note.
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punkman: "I trained to become a wealth manager. That initial part of my study took two years, many thousands of dollars, and hundreds of thousands of miles of travel. Although I never practiced as a wealth manager"
☟︎ jurov: you don't understand, he is teaching, not doing
punkman: "trained for two years, many thousands of dollars, and hundreds of thousands of miles of travel. and all I learned is something about cook islands trusts"
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punkman: "also found human DNA in 2% of its hot dog samples -- and two-thirds of the vegetarian samples. "
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punkman: how's cpu-in-cpu thingies related to escape from winblowz?
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funkenstein_: i suppose part of the problem is people saying "oh it doesn't matter I can just take that with a battery into a copper box and walk out with punch cards" ?
jurov: asciilifeform: she tries to distinguish that all that wealth is not very secret, merely outside of media spotlight and tax collectors
jurov: should appreciable part of it move to enemy that's gonna change quickly
jurov: (not the taxability, but the spotlight of misc agencies and perhaps media)
jurov: it's confirmation bias
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jurov: there's, say, plenty of hungarian "aristocracy" that were patrons of nothing
☟︎ jurov: you don't get to read about them
jurov: their own children preferred to exile to USA and blend in there
jurov: confirmation bias << i meant selection bias
mats: it is p easy to wax poetic about the state of computing, but, folks run nix until they don't and nonetheless need to raise the cost for attackers
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the stench of the room can never be an argument against the process of cleanning.
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 13:19:00; punkman: "I trained to become a wealth manager. That initial part of my study took two years, many thousands of dollars, and hundreds of thousands of miles of travel. Although I never practiced as a wealth manager"
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 13:41:29; punkman: "also found human DNA in 2% of its hot dog samples -- and two-thirds of the vegetarian samples. "
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assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 15:26:07; asciilifeform: you can ignore it.
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 15:31:19; asciilifeform: this keeps in perfect fitting with the 'computing industry'-as-a-protection racket business model of the last 20+ yrs, where it 'solves' exclusively those problems which it, itself, creates.
punkman: mircea_popescu: severed fingers? sperm? tears?
mircea_popescu: understand : the question of what is specifically HUMAN dna is very much open. we share a lot with other living things, and the thingsd we don't we don't all exhibit. point in case being the bullshit pseudoscience "he must have raped her because so and so substance only exists in male sperm" to be then found sure it exists in female sperm-equivalent, no problem.
mircea_popescu: but this counted as valid science for decades in hundreds of convictions.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 15:38:18; asciilifeform: (incidentally, for chinese aficionados: NO WORKSTATION-GRADE CPU IS OR HAS EVER BEEN MADE in cn)
mircea_popescu: but i must say, splendid alf monograph, should be in an article.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 15:42:48; asciilifeform: (they will publicly proclaim, to an audience gagging from suppressed laughter, that 'ms-win is the only certified os for top secret xyz' while at the same time being sure to carry out private key ops ONLY in mykotronx/safenet's silicon)
mircea_popescu: it's enough to drive one stack. im surprise not more usg-kgb folks go on murder rampages. i know i would.
mircea_popescu: if after going to all that fucking trouble and obtaining that much actual superiority the people for whom i supposedly did it behave like fucking teenagers i would actually go to their house and feed them their children in cooked parts.
mats: I'm not sure you see how tiresome it is to rehash the discussion as follows -- 'gtfo off leaky ship already', 'am in middle of atlantic', 'so swim to island (without provisions)', 'then get on a ship without holes', 'there are none on horizon', 'getting on that ship in the first place is a problem of a logical class', 'yes, but... am here'
mircea_popescu: "The physical chip was designed by Mykotronx (USA) and manufactured by VLSI Technology Inc. (USA). The initial cost for an unprogrammed chip was $16 and a programmed one costed $26."
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308917 << dude. "de" lavoisier was exactly the opposite of aristocracy, more in the vein of donald trump. he inherited the fortune of a ferme generale entrepreneur (tax scam the french copied from the romans - guaranteed to make one crassus-rich. sort of at-the-time equivalent of "real estate development") and married the scion of the same.
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:05:39; asciilifeform: i was sad, as a boy, reading about how lavoisier, father of modern chemistry, met the guillotine
mircea_popescu: phillipe equality was aristocracy. lavoisier & co were the newly rich.
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308922 << there's a problem here. of the original set of hoodlums, meyer lansky actually survived, to die in the 80s in florida like any serious jew from beyond the pale. most memorable about him is the anecdote that when about 9 was trying to run a numbers racket with some friends, and when the older boys tried to muscle in, as older boys are supposed to, he demured. "yo
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:08:40; asciilifeform: just like a hoodlum who gets the drop on you in a dark alley, cracking your skull with a lead pipe, is not 'your better' on account of it
mircea_popescu: u get nottin' for nottin'", if they want money ~they better go work for him~.
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mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308923 << the problem with this approach is that you also don't agree with the theory that the deer is less than the fox. fine, don't agree : the fox eats the deer nevertheless. your options are either a) to not share an environment, in which case your failures are not fit-reducing or b) to grow uniformly.
☝︎☟︎ assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:09:38; asciilifeform: i don't subscribe to the cosmography where the hoodlum is 'the better' and the concert violinist walking through the alley is 'a loser' because... because why, he oughtn't have such a soft skull? if he 'were anybody' he could afford a security detail? because why ?
mircea_popescu: i happen to not think anything of the mathematician that doesn't know how his fridge works. "oh he's specialised" fuck you. "but this is how we do it here!" yeah, this is how i do you in the ass.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "but he just wanted email to work" no, srsly, fuck you.
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:12:08; jurov: there's, say, plenty of hungarian "aristocracy" that were patrons of nothing
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:20:12; *: funkenstein_ applauds "on parenting"
mircea_popescu: incidentally, alf, why didn't I get my skull cracked ? god knows i been in plenty of dark alleys.
mircea_popescu: there exists in this world a woman whose actual experience of a first date with me includes this part where she was taken to a dark alley in a completely new town, made to strip and well... no, rape didn't ensue. she jsut got a crack on the butt.
mircea_popescu: to put it in vernacular terms, quod times non te destructit, quod te nutrit te destructit.
mircea_popescu: fucktarded atlantic article. "oh, reddit matters, everyone cares about us"
thestringpuller: the most visible manifestation of the eternal september irl
thestringpuller: i was more referring to how people say memes in real life, i.e: "not bad dot jpeg"; the reddit eternal september is like an infection
trinque: the eternal september was already out there; the whole thing was the ignorant masses raiding the internet from "out there"
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assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:35:25; mats: it is p easy to wax poetic about the state of computing, but, folks run nix until they don't and nonetheless need to raise the cost for attackers
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:43:36; mircea_popescu: but this counted as valid science for decades in hundreds of convictions.
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 16:44:58; mircea_popescu: but i must say, splendid alf monograph, should be in an article.
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 17:04:31; mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308923 << the problem with this approach is that you also don't agree with the theory that the deer is less than the fox. fine, don't agree : the fox eats the deer nevertheless. your options are either a) to not share an environment, in which case your failures are not fit-reducing or b) to grow uniformly.
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 17:05:03; mircea_popescu: i happen to not think anything of the mathematician that doesn't know how his fridge works. "oh he's specialised" fuck you. "but this is how we do it here!" yeah, this is how i do you in the ass.
mircea_popescu: and you don't get to declare what parts of reality are irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: dark alley is life of the mind alright. the first. still the best.
mircea_popescu: for that matter what do you think you are, tchaykowsky ?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, you musta been readoing a different www, half of mine's with and about whores, criminals and the insane.
mircea_popescu: again you do not get to say what parts of brain are irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: tel lyou what : the weird make it, the brave take it from them, and the smart take it from the brave. true in the "empire building" us west as well as in lublianka.
mircea_popescu: "i have decided that only the upper third of the mandelbrot set is of interest. WHY DOES THE REST KEEP RECURRING WE HAD AN AGREEMENT!!1"
mircea_popescu: the actual life of the mind as a thing is of the mind, not of a butchered brain.
mircea_popescu: it has its place, which you didn't give it, nor you may deny it.
mircea_popescu: it earned it, on its own merits, as part of the whole construction's history. it's there and you honor it.
mircea_popescu: that you readily see the "cpu in cpu" thing for what it is, yet you';d allow THE SAME PEOPLE do THE SAME THING to your own brain.
trinque: asciilifeform: I run into places you've interfaced with strangers all over the net.
trinque: probably every other time I go spelunking for information on lisp machines
trinque: sure but go back x years and that's writing letters or what have you
mircea_popescu: you knew who else grew (for whatever reason) with a complete atrophy of the part of the brain that does "that math-y stuff"
mircea_popescu: until i beat the shit of her every time she didn't do math properly ?
mircea_popescu: oh, what, every us chick your age or younger, ever. herp.
mircea_popescu: somehow the women their mother's generation did not have this problem. it ... sprung out of the void, around 1970 or so.
phf: ben_vulpes: i don't think fmt is a horrible idea, but it (and similar packages like iterate) would've been great if they were part of the standard. as it stands they get you some elegance at the expense of being an idiosyncratic external dependency. you still have to learn format and loop, but once you do, you start thinking twice about replacing them with something marginally better.
mircea_popescu: shape's wrong, mechanical failures are wrong, the whole thing looks digital.
phf: ben_vulpes: i've seen fmt like tricks used all over the place to do for example date formatting, e.g. (year #\- month #\- day), but the previous sexp is compiled to either format or directly to princ's. unless your domain is text formatting, it makes little sense to have an intermediate form.
mircea_popescu: but i got an idea of a graphic novel, suddeenly : in this crapsack world in which the implementation of the "jews eating babies"/"white slavers" moral panic / fetish is actual farms to literally produce baby viande as per the modest proposal, it is discovered that ringworm infection of the abdomen in 2nd trimester females results in tastier, if very strangely diformed veal.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the text follows the conflict between the progressives (hey, whatever it costs, worth doing) and the conservatives (keep your damned ringworms off our famr!)
mircea_popescu: and the debate could specifically be, that the damned bitches keep trying to claw the worm out of their bellies, thus giving themselves infections. so the upgraded farfms have to include limb restraints on top of the noirmally used neckchain to a pole thing. which costs moneys!
mircea_popescu: "maybe it's cheaper with psychiatry ? let's convince them the incredible burning is worth it ?" "waste of time, these subhuman hindbrained breeders!11" etc
mircea_popescu: reality is x, people always, for some reason, represent it as x+a. never as x-a. why not ? should be evenly distributed around x, neh ?
mircea_popescu: job of the artist : fix the uneven distributions of reality representation.
mircea_popescu: drove the (relatively moe sheltered romanians) batshit.
mircea_popescu: te-am vazut, mi-ai placut, ce ramine de facut ? indraznesc sa-ti vorbesc : te iubesc! daca-n ochi m-ai privit si-ai ramas indragostit nu gresesti sa-mi spui ca ma iubesti.
mircea_popescu: ie, "i've seen you, you're to my liking, what's left to do ? i dare speak to you : i love you! if you've looked me in the eye and were struck, you're not wrong to tell me you love me."
mircea_popescu: the culture powering romania. i would bet this played a part in half or more lost virginities during decades.
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mircea_popescu: here's a thought : "Quarterly, first and fourth grandquarters counterquartered, first and fourth gules, three cinquefoils ermine ; second and third argent, a lymphad with sails furled proper, flagged gules ; second and third grandquarters argent, a heart gules imperially crowned proper, on a chief azure three stars of the field."
mircea_popescu: how much does the field of computing owe to... heraldry ?
mircea_popescu: conventions in place for eleven centuries or more, and slowly evolving over that interval, read exactly like algorithmics.
mircea_popescu: i mean just reading that thing - the strictness of the logic is empowering.
mircea_popescu: it is right all through in the speciffically correct way.
mircea_popescu: i've been aware of this for a while, actually, slowly digesting it.
mircea_popescu: what does it mean ? it is fucking obvious to you what it means, on the basis of the text itself!
mircea_popescu: they drew thje banner, said fuckit, it devolved into soup and we never heard of those.
mircea_popescu: the reason for the succes is specifically the hindbrain. and the uninvolvement of "the life of the mind".
mircea_popescu: lord knows it went to soup (true, different flavour) once they started wit hthe "understanding"s.
mircea_popescu: "oh, they sit on grenades because of windy, not because of cold". fuck them all the same!
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assbot: jstolfi comments on Roger the Jesus launches uncensored CEO AMA marathon on Bitcoin.com ...everyone except OKCoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1RzUdu0 )
jurov mostly killed a day trying to run eulora in cling c++ interpreter...
jurov: and failed though not on cling directly, but on getting gnu ld to publicly export some symbols in .so lib :(
mircea_popescu: nobody gave a shit about stolfi at any point, his "omaigerd threatened on the internets" attention whoring moment y compris, therefore mp is bad!
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assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 12:12:45; assbot: davout-bc comments on /u/jstolfi goes the way of whollyhemp after death threats from scientologists ... (
http://bit.ly/1JkvIuB )
jurov: asciilifeform: in CERN they built an *interpreter* on top of it, named cling
mircea_popescu: not even a month. heh. at least the actual scammers have the decency to go away for 9ish months at a time. seems even 9 weeks is too much for the comparatively shittier decency of the university scammer set.
jurov: asciilifeform: no, they rebuilt it with llvm
mircea_popescu: to quote professor costanza, "in my mind, the war is still going".
mircea_popescu: im sure in their own heads they're still actually even like, involved in things and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: they have that much in common with down syndrome sufferers, it is true.
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mircea_popescu: incidentally, the story of england's country estates is so much lolz. so hitler won the war, and as a result by 1955 they were destroying the "national heritage" at the rate of a site a week.
mircea_popescu: pray tell what'd the gestapo have done ? better ? doubtful.
mircea_popescu: i dun believe this is what they wanted musl to be for.
jurov: gotta start sustaining oneself on bugs
trinque: having reached the end of the latest ballas dissection, the thing has a familiar format I was a little surprised to see given the others from him I've read.
trinque: even him mentioning the guitar fits
trinque: "the powers that be are out to make you a cog for their machine, maaaan"
mircea_popescu: and i gotta say i love the leverage, i take an hour to write one of these 5k word atrocities, it ruins the day/week of numerous people.
trinque: he's revealing some sinister mechanism that's all around us
trinque: if you'd just see, you too could solo on the stratocaster and be free
trinque: don't let them stomp out your unique flower or whatever it is
trinque: I could hear the same shit from some stoner I know
trinque: "she is really raising them to be what the WSJ considers China to be: a pool of highly skilled labor that someone else will profit from."
trinque: their obedience doesn't seem to be the problem; more that there's nothing good out there to obey
mircea_popescu: if you can't make even one person worth following, how the hell would you make this entire aspirational 14% be each and every one worthy of following (for themselves) ?
mircea_popescu: he says : this hundred appears nutty, but this seems more because they have no one to follow than a flaw in themselves.
mircea_popescu: you say : thus therefore, the fact that there aren't 100 people to follow, so each of these 100 could follow one of those 100 (ie, the same one) is then the problem.
mircea_popescu: well wtf sense does this make ? you don't have one so aim to fix it by having 100 ?
mircea_popescu: a compass is a compass. if you shove it up your ass it will be "internal"
trinque: I know this chick who ended up an IP lawyer because hell, the money said go there.
trinque: actually I know two such chicks
trinque: she wanted to do that in high school because the world somebody set up had "doctor" in a cool place
trinque: whether that's good or bad is another question I think
mircea_popescu: apparently teh dept of depting feels it needs more voices.
mircea_popescu: it both perpetuates the jwz "i only want to" class and it creates the "i know nothing and have some oppinions" class of stolfi/swanson/etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think you've well seen what the results of public access to phuctor were.
mircea_popescu: you're turning into a modern version of the immaculate conceiver over there, you know ?
mircea_popescu: to quote myself, "Bitcoin suddenly opened the gate. It is a poisonous offering. You are grossly unequipped to interact straight with the refuse of Western society. Accepting investors with fortunes under a million dollars or whatever the limit was placed for US citizens may make sense. Accepting investors with fortunes under any arbitrary value and simultaneously wits under any arbitrary threshold is not a sound busine
mircea_popescu: i am not intending to "save" the mass from it's "opressive" government/landlords/what have you anymore than i intend to run around farms in rural england "freeing" the cows.
mircea_popescu: the stable solution here is that the socialists get the crowd and wash their head with it, all i want is the well put together teenage sluts and the fewq and far between whose heads work.
mircea_popescu: the rest - not only they can keep, i'd even pay them to keep.
mircea_popescu: anything up to what it'd cost me to butcher them and drain the blood and guts.
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assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 21:46:36; mircea_popescu: providing public services is not merely a waste
pete_dushenski: speaking of health and inconsistency, alberta's new ndp gov (hyper-unionistas) just released its 2015 budget today : $19.7 billion for health care, $7.6 billion for k-12 education, and $5.7 billion for post-secondary out of a total $50 billion budget
pete_dushenski: 11% on university... because everyone deserves to be reprimanded for microaggression
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> 11% on university... because everyone deserves to be reprimanded for microaggression because what they need to do is macro-aggression
pete_dushenski: eh nothing exciting : $4 bn for 'human services' and $11 bn for 'other ministries' (agri, natives, tourism, energy). also ~$1 bn for debt servicing and ~$1 bn for 'disasters'
pete_dushenski: 'Status of Women. Consolidated expense is budgeted at $1 .4 million in 2015-16 . A province-wide dialogue around the formation of this new ministry is underway .' << mkay
pete_dushenski: right after ex-pm harper gutted all those women's studies programs. sheesh. back and forth, these guys.
assbot: Logged on 14-10-2015 18:23:13; mircea_popescu: "I know they're billing it as a stand for women's rights, but that would be more convincing if they weren't also selling weapons to Saudi Arabia, hadn't shuttered 75 percent of the country's Status of Women offices, and weren't shrugging off the more than 1,200 Indigenous women who have been missing or murdered in Canada since 1980."
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pete_dushenski: thestringpuller if you were in their shoes, what would you do differently ?
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: from what this article tells me, they basically built a thing for docusign to hash physical contracts to the blockchain
trinque: fancy that. how innovative
thestringpuller: have no idea what this provides other than more visibility for auditing, but dunno...seems...moot...empty
trinque: as for investing in deedbot I don't see the angle
pete_dushenski: millions of dollars worth of kraft singles and cheese puffs
mircea_popescu: Which brings us to the first point, the main point: law schools are lying. Despite the fact that "JDs face the grimmest job market in decades" the schools are somehow reporting to prosepctive applicants that, e.g., "93% of grads are working" and "the median starting salary of graduates in the private sector is $160,000."
mircea_popescu: How do they do this? "Enron-type accounting standards..."says a law professor. "Every time I look at this data, I feel dirty."
mircea_popescu: A law grad, for instance, counts as "employed after nine months" even if he or she has a job that doesn't require a law degree. Waiting tables at Applebee's? You're employed.
pete_dushenski: trinque not to mention the gold-plated tank to pick up said groceries and drop them off at your house
mircea_popescu: The schools do this because the schools are extremely profitable businesses: high cost, low margin.
trinque: pete_dushenski: consider it a small investment of my own
mircea_popescu: "They fake it because that pointless data gets handed over to the illusionists at US News along with other pointless data (expenditure per student, library facilities, max bench press) to generate a single overall ranking, which is just the kind of simplistic, pseudoscience objectivity that students, parents, and schools demand.
mircea_popescu: A quick word on the US News rankings. 25% of the ranking comes from a "peer quality assessment" in which schools rate each other. So, say you are Clemson Law School. What should you do? "Rate all other programs below average." And, of course, do what University of Wisconsin did: give the highest score only to itself and one other school that you're not really competing against. You can also bring up that "alumni
mircea_popescu: donations" factor by calling alumni and asking them to donate $5, and whoever doesn't donate label as deceased."
mircea_popescu: all of this is ACTUALLY going on. and has been. for years, decades.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu same gig with med schools, particularly in uk and caribbean
trinque: pete_dushenski: as for the dust it churns through, I'm sure at some point I'll have it announce when the tank is low so that the gentlemen here can refill it
mircea_popescu: "A ranking, like the "percent employed", is an example of information bias. You think you know something, but you don't. If Fordham is #21, is that different than saying it is #29? Or saying it is in the second decile? It's a deliberately obfuscated precision that you can't act on. That level of "certainty" does not inform your decisions."
mircea_popescu: specifically. "precision that you can't act upon". could be the "web analytics" business as well.
pete_dushenski: the difference between web analytics and law degree is that the latter at leaves you with a useful mental framework once it's burned your bucks
mircea_popescu: "See? Grade inflation. We already know about the problem of grade inflation in colleges; the LSAT was supposed to help offset this by offering a standardization. Now the ABA wants to do away with the LSAT requirement. Fine. But the result of all this is you can't really be sure how you compare to other applicants, so instead you demand objectivity in the schools' rankings as a proxy to guess where you might belon
mircea_popescu: g. "I think I belong in a top tier school..." How do you know? The analogy is you have no idea what kind of a man you are and thus what kind of a woman would be right for you, so you just harass the girls that other people think are the best. Then if you don't get her you're angry at the girl ("these bitches just want jocks and legacy applicants"); and if you get her you're surprised to find that three years with
mircea_popescu: that hole. relationships, business arrangements, political arrangements, scientific models, all of it the same exact hole left behind. "this is where nothing used to be".
mircea_popescu: "And once they're in law school, there is more grade inflation and even retroactive adding of .333 to everybody's GPA. And now law school graduates are surprised to find they're unemployed. Law students had no real measure of their status as an applicant; no reliable descriptor of what kind of a school they went to (short of branding); and no reliable measure of their performance there. "What do you mean I can't g
mircea_popescu: et hired?" They think to themselves, "amn't I bright? Hard working? Fluent in legal theory?" And the employers respond, "how the hell would we know that?""
mircea_popescu: fucking hell. when i was that age i knew exactly where i could go. EVERYWHERE. and so did they.
mircea_popescu: given three kids ahead of you and three kids behind you you could ALWAYS pick at least two of each kind.
pete_dushenski: imo the mental framework that a (canadian/uk) legal degree provides is that i) there are always loopholes to exploit, ii) you can debate anything, iii) don't ask a question unless you know the answer.
pete_dushenski: if you can take these 3 points away from law school, and some connections, you'll be better for it.
mircea_popescu: allow me to refer to the source material in my response.
mircea_popescu: "WHEN Mr. Wallerstein started at Thomas Jefferson, he was in no mood for austerity. He borrowed so much that before the start of his first semester he nearly put a down payment on a $350,000 two-bedroom, two-bath condo, figuring that the investment would earn a profit by the time he graduated. ...Mr. Wallerstein rented a spacious apartment. He also spent a month studying in the South of France and a month in Prague --
mircea_popescu: all on borrowed money. There were cost-of-living loans, and tuition of about $33,000 a year. Later came a $15,000 loan to cover months of studying for the bar.
mircea_popescu: He lives with his fiancee who is "unperturbed by his dizzying collection of i.o.u.'s." She doesn't want him to get a corporate law job because (take a sip first): "we like hanging out together." Carly, another unemployed law graduate explains, "I guess I kind of assumed that someone would hook me up with something." I'm sure she felt she deserved it."
mircea_popescu: sure, my hos regularly get two bedroom, two bathroom apts, provided a) they're good at what they do and b) live in pairs or triples.
pete_dushenski: so the skools let raving idjits in and suckered them for everything the banks were dumb enough to loan them
mircea_popescu: MR. WALLERSTEIN, for his part, is not complaining. Once you throw in the intangibles of having a J.D., he says, he is one of law schools' satisfied customers.
mircea_popescu: "It's a prestige thing," he says. "I'm an attorney. All of my friends see me as a person they look up to."
pete_dushenski: because corporate lawyers work 80 hours a week and sop up their tears with $500k - $1.5 mn a year.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski this is where i go "had he spent the 350k on bitcoin in 2011, he'd have a little over 500k-1.5mn a year now"
mircea_popescu: "They understand I'm in a lot of debt, but I've done something they feel they could never do and the respect and admiration is important." [my edit: he isn't actually practicing law.]"
mircea_popescu: everyone in argentina is a lawyer btw. im telling you, this country is the logical conclusion of that country.
mircea_popescu: Unless, somehow, the debt just goes away. Another of Mr. Wallerstein's techniques for remaining cool in a serious financial pickle: believe that the pickle might somehow disappear.
mircea_popescu: "Bank bailouts, company bailouts -- I don't know, we're the generation of bailouts," he says in a hallway during a break from his Peak Discovery job. "And like, this debt of mine is just sort of, it's a little illusory. I feel like at some point, I'll negotiate it away, or they won't collect it."
mircea_popescu: He gives a slight shrug and a smile as he heads back to work. "It could be worse," he says. "It's not like they can put me jail."
mircea_popescu: someone should go into fucking middle east to be blown to bits by really angry men, to protect this pasty ass' dumbass notions of reality. this is worth doing.
pete_dushenski: except arg doesn't have huge inflows of productive immigrants that usistan does. so ima bet on a different fate, similarity in lawyer pestilence aside.
pete_dushenski: like every accounting office here, like every teller at every bank here, yes.
mircea_popescu: i have yet to have met any argentine in any sort of position of power or relevancy of any kind whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: i ocasionally encounter derps living the delusions of the foregoing, who i threaten and they go away.
mircea_popescu: funyn thing being that they seem blisfully unaware of this.
assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 18:14:25; asciilifeform: it is in fact the very definition of sabotage.
mircea_popescu: "Let's take all this at face value. Is he entitled? Delusional? I don't doubt for a moment he sincerely believes he is a lawyer, because lawyer for him isn't a profession or even a job, it's a label, a code word for a kind of intellectualism he wants for himself. As long as "all of my friends see me as..." it was well worth the cost. He didn't study to become an attorney, he bought a back-up identity." << exactly
mircea_popescu: this. they thing "oh, patria si buitres no", "soberania" blablabla. then talk football and peronismo. and don't matter. and it's ok, because THEIR FRIENDS see them as people.