assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00050999 = 2.6519 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00049925 = 3.0454 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: ^ pure snr imnsho, along with !down etc
adlai files incident under "excuses to steal"
assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 21:32:41; mircea_popescu: i suspect that at the root of the complexity-seeking behaviours is the deeply internalized if very infantile fear that if others understand what you did they won't respect you for doing it. because hey, 5yo doesn't understand what parents do.
ben_vulpes: ui programmers are especially prone to this, imho because the smalltalk MPI style of MVC and data marshalling through layers is very much not a paradigm that lends itself to simplicity of code design.
adlai blinks... since when does deedbot- follow nyt? or hearn for that matter?
adlai: afk grabbing sleep/etc
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 427.56, Best ask: 427.71, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 427.52, 24 hour volume: 13409.57571648, 24 hour low: 426.0, 24 hour high: 435.0, 24 hour vwap: None
jurov: ^ clearly abject failure
mod6: shinohai: good to hear, thx for the update.
mod6: now i will look at PeterL's issue.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00049892 = 5.987 BTC [-] {3}
mod6: ;; later tell PeterL hey, the version of 'v.pl' that you have looks correct to me. the issue is that you have the pubkeys named incorrectly, try with 'mod6.asc', 'ben_vulpes.asc', 'asciilifeform.asc' and 'mircea_popescu.asc'
mod6: ;;later tell PeterL I guess also, if that doesn't resolve the issue, there could be something weird going on with your gpg import. might have to investigate more with you.
phf: asciilifeform: in your pgp version are you getting rid of the whole keyring concept? i assume the switch is to "a folder full of ascs"?
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11244 @ 0.00049883 = 5.6088 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell bitstein I missed that original piece by Mike Hearn. I see no reason to link it or an archive of in in the Qntra article. Mike Hearn hasn't had a say on any subject in a long time. Why should he get one about himself?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3282 @ 0.00050312 = 1.6512 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: " but it’s now common to be asked to pay more to miners than a credit card would charge."
mircea_popescu: for one thing, i have yet to see a tx that cost 0.1 btc fixed fee, which is what wires cost. for the other, credit cards are UNIVERSALY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WIRES.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: reading mike hearn is like reading timecube without the humor, writing skill, grounding in reality, variety and aesthetic appreciation.
BingoBoingo: That's the other good reason it wouldn't have been linked if I found it in time. It's like Cryptsy screaming their were hacked after their end has already entered the record. Too late.
mircea_popescu: "oh, cars don't even have buggywhips!!11 CARS HAVE FAILED!11"
BingoBoingo: What, my car has a buggy whip. Not very useful when moving anymore, but might be useful if stopped by an angry urban crowd.
adlai: some of my best friends defuse road rage with firearms (works in the middle east, at least, where it's initiated with posturing rather than intent)
mircea_popescu: up until they run into one of the people that go by the principle that "if i see you armed you're dead."
adlai has yet to see the "51st state" go full usgtard
BingoBoingo prefer the whip for historical lulz. If going down to an angry urban mob might as well tack on the irony of defending self with Antebellum era agricultural tool.
gribble: Current Blocks: 393357 | Current Difficulty: 1.1335429980147113E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 395135 | Next Difficulty In: 1778 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 6 hours, 26 minutes, and 51 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3166 @ 0.00050037 = 1.5842 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 14:59:41; asciilifeform: (does anyone recall the very recent thread re: gcc optimizing away a certain kind of security check WHEN EXPLICITLY ASKED NOT TO ?)
mircea_popescu: but i think ima stop listening to people who don't have what i want (tits)
mircea_popescu: it's some old dude apparently living in costa rica (which he invented), telling the world truths in centered lines. "Yes, in case you didn't know it Facebook is a HUGE Blogging Platform and it earns Facebook Billions of Dollars !In fact Facebook generated $217.00 every second, 24hrs a day during 2013. And they Earned that money from You Blogging!"
mircea_popescu: i'm sure that's how they got it. not from random usg tendrils washing billions in "advertising".
mircea_popescu: "I have and I am continuing to make posts relating to different Occupations and Passions that can Profit and or Benefit from having a Blog. I will give a touch of ideas of HOW a Blog can Help each topic."
mircea_popescu: "The Video is just a small sample that can get you started with Your Blog. Each subject is also reinforcement for ideas that You can use in your Life. Example .. The Ideas that I give for a Doctor can easily be modified and applied to another business or Passion. The basics of How a Doctor can monetize her Blog can also be applied to a person with a Coin Collection."
mircea_popescu: did i tell the story of the utility program i wrote in basic ?
mircea_popescu: not sorted in any particular order. so that you know, if you needed a calculatuion made... you could just run my program and ... look it up.
mircea_popescu: actually the ddr metallic-something tapes of the era were much better than everything i saw since.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yes, but I can only ever name one at a time and never specify and ordering lest I jinx the list. This is still feeling now like an alt universe version of 2012-2013
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00050653 = 2.1528 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00049837 = 1.6197 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00049809 = 2.2912 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43350 @ 0.00050891 = 22.0612 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 00:52:44; phf: asciilifeform: in your pgp version are you getting rid of the whole keyring concept? i assume the switch is to "a folder full of ascs"?
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 01:14:18; mircea_popescu: for one thing, i have yet to see a tx that cost 0.1 btc fixed fee, which is what wires cost. for the other, credit cards are UNIVERSALY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WIRES.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00049809 = 3.4119 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: magic flutes playing funeral marches rival buggywhips as chicken repellent
adlai: asciilifeform: since when are you reimplementing keyring-aware pgp?
adlai: aiui cardano only needs to know of a single key
adlai is reminded of a snide remark made behind the back of an aging warrant officer: "your measure of success in life is inversely proportional to the weight and noise of your keyring"
adlai somehow doesn't imagine asciilifeform walking around with 12 cardanos looped into his belt
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00049809 = 2.7395 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: actual quote from meatwot-pope: "if somebody executes a death warrant against somebody trying to improve bitcoin, i'll fund and execute one against them myself" (don't judge him, he's prone to angry outbursts)
☟︎ BingoBoingo: adlai: You might need to luke-jr against that pope
adlai always kept spare earplugs hidden in his 'buggywhip'
BingoBoingo: Anyways adlai, my impression that that belt is not where one wears cardano
adlai: this is why people who wish for success in life don't go into warrant officer carreers, or even avoid .mil altogether
☟︎ AdrianG: how do i obtain voice on join?
assbot: AdrianG is not registered in WoT.
adlai: more as a 'lisp for its target audience' than anything else, tbh
adlai: this is an excellent infection vector, like how my floss-hating friend now uses gimp
adlai: (and blender, and linux... he's not yet sold on bitcoin, suffering from a terminal case of fiat-startuptardation)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The black hole treatment may have moved on to... me. Several times today restarted home node after finding myself stuck 3 to 14 blocks behind. Just recovered from a 4 hour lag.
BingoBoingo: plain lag it seems so far. Wasn't anticipating so hadn't set up anything looking for it yet. What should I be looking for?
AdrianG: ive been reading about this place.
BingoBoingo: Just helps if you let people know who your are. For example: I'm BingoBoingo and I'm an alcoholic.
BingoBoingo: Not anymore. Sober a bit less than 3 months nao.
AdrianG: im mainly interested in crypto tech, all these bitcoins/etc.
BingoBoingo: I could not do it alone. I had to turn my will and life over to my higher power, Brodin the Allspotter.
☟︎ AdrianG: just wanted to idle mainly and see what ppl are talking about, i dont chat that much these days
adlai answers AdrianG from pm: self-voicing is for people two steps removed from assbot so no, I can not help you in this regard
AdrianG: things got more interesting recently with all these blocksizes
☟︎ BingoBoingo: AdrianG: It's just hard to get that first rating unless you give people something to judge you by whether it's throwing out ideas in channel here or linking some previous stuff to read.
adlai: or writing articles for qntra, which is always in need of biased yet accurate coverage of technical news
assbot: “They don’t print paper catalogues anymore, everything’s on their website.” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1nmFkSW )
AdrianG: adlai: you write for qntra?
BingoBoingo: I wasn't raised in a barn either, but I can still smell barn when the wind comes from the wrong direction
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00049566 = 3.4696 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Or for most of the month after county fair week.
AdrianG: irc trojan in the wallet code, heh.
mod6: pete_dushenski: yup, how goes it?
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.AdrianG.1:50fcf710cef58ed3dbf0da8ef386bbe1897c392c11e2731920a14d8803173bc4
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for AdrianG with note: Seen him in other channels.
adlai: beautiful watching children reinvent the WoT... tearfully reminds one of the early days of forum.bitcoin.com
AdrianG: adlai: have you seen keybase?
adlai: have you seen /r/btc_superclassico?
adlai: if you're serving clients javascript pgp implementations, you may have a better career happiness brokering fiat options by telephone
adlai: legal in israel, pays in "economic numbers" relative to the salesmen's previous jobs (hocking 'dead sea salt' in your local consumeristemple), rapidly replacing manufacture of arms both small and precise as the nation's primary income stream
adlai: seeing as AdrianG did not !register in-channel, we now notice that post-gribble asswot has no way of publicly conjuring public-keyring contents
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00049793 = 2.5892 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: since sks is on the chopping block next, i imagine !register will eventually eat plaintext pubkeys.
adlai is looking for !pubkey <nick> that poops them back out
adlai: if nothing else, just for verification that what you sent in !register didn't get diddled (assuming assbot itself doesn't use mpex security standard)
adlai wonders where on the chopping block lie replay attack prevention
adlai can't find the trollbox input field?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3044 @ 0.00049566 = 1.5088 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: ben_vulpes re: "not operating a public urinal", tel aviv municipality has begun charging shnekels
adlai notes that mircea_popescu has voluntarily stuffed a gold bar into one of these, which is quite generous of him; once it runs low, it should really be somebody else's turn to jam the meter
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: do you still have a copy of trinque's gentooizer?
trinque: I mean that as broadly as possible.
trinque: moreover logs with cryptographically preserved time capsules
adlai: deed-by-month is the enemy of merkle mountaineering greatness
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4434 @ 0.00049653 = 2.2016 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski:
https://map.what3words.com/ << " what3words has identified every one of the 57 trillion 3mx3m squares on the entire planet with just three, easy to remember, words. Every location on the earth now has a fixed, easily-accessible and memorable address. Unpopulated places have addresses for the first time ever, of course, but now so do heavily populated places like favelas in Brazil where there are no roads or numb
pete_dushenski: ered houses. Moreover the three word addresses are available not just in English but in French, Spanish, Portuguese, Swahili, Russian, German, Turkish and Swedish with more languages on the way. The addresses in other languages are not translations but unique 3 word addresses in those languages."
☟︎ adlai: next up, utxo-bloating "global triverb billboard"
ben_vulpes: one of my favorite parts of addresses is how they indicate relative proximity to someone who knows the map
☟︎ adlai: you're looking at implementation bugs, the idea is priceless
adlai: or worthless. or both
trinque: adlai: on my list is having the... urinal as you call it... announce its hunger
trinque: by god, sometime this month it might even have a fully synced trb to poke too
trinque: I'm still waiting on your generous donation btw, Anduck
ben_vulpes: re sks thread signed bundles of keys on everyone's websites is probably the best way to go
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4310 @ 0.00049896 = 2.1505 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: re: 3x, that's an excellent point. they really don't take that into account.
adlai: because it actually does what idiots think it does, and thus minimizes gnashing of teeth
assbot: GitHub - HugPuddle/Apertus: Apertus - Store data, browse and communicate on your favorite Blockchains. ... (
http://bit.ly/1UTr5j4 )
adlai: the latter purely to annoy those who don't understand why bloom filters belong in Bitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2390 @ 0.00050317 = 1.2026 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 15:09:13; asciilifeform: adlai: have you considered starting a proper blog ?
punkman: adlai: how does apertus encode the data?
adlai: call it an experiment in a new funding model for open source software / pheature poker
adlai: punkman: unimpressively
adlai wouldn't blink at a USG imprisonment warrant (and seizure of License to Mine) against such txen
ben_vulpes: dunno that im into geocoding at all nearly so much as legibility
punindented: well, you can build a hash using that algo and then represent it as you like
punindented: good thing about that algo is larger areas produce shorter hashes
ben_vulpes: did you catch my point about proximity info embedded in the way things are done traditionally?
punindented: relative proximity in terms of radius or direction and distance?
ben_vulpes: addresses increment from known points, streets are in locations known to natives. addresses encode 'where', legibly.
adlai has rekindled interest in publicurinalfs due to meatpope wanting to immortalize [some arbitrary edition of] {the,his} Bible
punindented: well, you have a recursive algo as well then, but the epicenter varies right?
adlai: meatpope, like the other kinds, has rubies to donate, provided it's done in a kosher manner according to satoshivision etc
ben_vulpes: yes, one must know how to read them. the universality, plus the randomness of hashing completely buries the location signal.
ben_vulpes: me? nothing, just pointing out features of the way addresses already work.
assbot: Gavin Andresen and Mike Hearn want to sabotage Bitcoin on behalf of the US government. - Andrew Auernheimer ... (
http://bit.ly/1UTtY3m )
adlai: BingoBoingo: /= read eval print
punindented: geocoding is interesting for allowing interactions in real life, interactions in real life are interesting to build markets, ...
adlai is a lotus eater and humbles himself before higher powers such as the legends of bias, zeno, jmc, and satoshi
ben_vulpes: punindented: real life interactions have just about epsilon need of geocoding to proceed
ben_vulpes: but hey, posit a specific case and let's proceed from there
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3565 @ 0.00050366 = 1.7955 BTC [+] {3}
ben_vulpes: i bought a car for 6kusd from a man i found on craigslist who...sent me his address.
ben_vulpes: and yes i took a goon, but who doesn't?
punindented: haha, well, I wasn't thinking of the second hand vehicle market
adlai: punindented: the good-enough solution (drops) gets rediscovered on p2p lists quite often these days... yet customers seem to keep using 'evolution'
ben_vulpes: and yes, the likes of asciilifeform and i gather punindented boggle at the notion of doing h2h's with marginally-known parties with kilobuxx on the barrel
ben_vulpes: although asciilifeform probably does the sme thing with esoteric computer hardware. how would i know...
☟︎ adlai: drops are best described not as a coordinate, but using natural language... helps make the system more expensive to game
adlai: pretty much, unless punindented has something else in mind?
ben_vulpes: hey, nobody's going to know what you're talking about unless you go so far as to talk about it
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> and yes i took a goon, but who doesn't? << Persons who are their own goon
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I'm fine watching the bolt ans tesla both suck together
ben_vulpes: btw BingoBoingo i did not miss the brodin line, chuckled
pete_dushenski: looks like the vw golf-sized bolt weighs damn near two tons. gooooo environment !
pete_dushenski: and lg chem is making the battery for the bolt (but really, who else ?)
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: so is there something wrong with the volt drivetrain that it's not showing up in pickups etc?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6001 @ 0.00049817 = 2.9895 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: it looks like the least stupid thing to come out of the ecomovement from over here
pete_dushenski: there's pretty well zero overlap between greenies and truck drivers
ben_vulpes: nono not the hybrid part, i dgaf abt that. the electric motors with onboard generation.
pete_dushenski: the thing is, electric cars have to optimise aero. in the gm 'hybrid' pick-ups, the heinous 'aero' front lip spoilers completely negated the ground clearance, and therefore much of the appeal of trucks in the first place
☟︎ ben_vulpes: they cant conceive of unbundling the good idea from the rhetoric.
ben_vulpes: electric drivetrain with onboard generation is entirely the way to go. the train people figured this out a looong ime ago; "diesel electric".
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: yes there's clearly something at work other than sanity
pete_dushenski: yup, "people who shouldn't have money with middling amounts of it"
pete_dushenski: trains also don't accelerate and decelerate as quickly or as frequently
☟︎ ben_vulpes: goodness no, they're designed by smart people to...work efficiently as capital equipment.
ben_vulpes: fucking interstate highway project. greatest goddamn misstep.
☟︎ adlai: buy a bike, you'll learn more about trading and addiction from not getting run over than you will from losing money on plebian status symbols
☟︎ adlai: better yet, rent one, if you live in a halfway modern metropolis
adlai is still waiting for his bus
ben_vulpes: helmet still recommended if yr gonna play the alleycat
BingoBoingo: The GM hybrid trucks were far more popular for being portable generators than for their hybrid drive, which almost never actually... drove the trucks
☟︎ ben_vulpes: but yeah notrly necessary for the casual pannier derp
ben_vulpes: "here are ten checkpoints in the metro area. GO!"
adlai would kill [his reputation] for a livable career as a bike messenger
adlai: excellent way to literally die honoring a contract (or serving a subpoena)
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: are there no bike scum where you live?
pete_dushenski: not really. the potholes and the snow are pretty potent deterrents i guess
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00049566 = 2.4287 BTC [-] {2}
adlai is too busy riding his other bike to notice/'google'
ben_vulpes: i can see them snapping up a mess of freighters at rock bottom prices as the bdi keeps collapsing
ben_vulpes: "But the idea of buying ocean freight is far less appealing for U.S. companies selling on the Amazon Marketplace. " << you don't fucking say i'm pretty sure i learned during the alcoa saga that nobody exports from the states any more
☟︎ ben_vulpes: wow 40-footers going for 1.3k from shenzen to la
gribble: Error: "8377.5" is not a valid command.
ben_vulpes: ahaha man if they're letting you keep the container you might even be able to make a profit just selling the empty boxes for scrap
ben_vulpes: anyways, it's not amazon, it's amazon cn, and they're not buying boats, they're operating as a freight forwarder.
☟︎ gribble: Error: "up" is not a valid command.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00050603 = 1.3916 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2847 @ 0.00050144 = 1.4276 BTC [-] {2}
gribble: (sell <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a sell order for <amount> units of <thing, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, low, (1 more message)
gribble: Bitfinex | A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 405869.8939 USD and would take the last price down to 404.7000 USD, resulting in an average price of 405.8699 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0048 seconds
gribble: Bitfinex | A market order to sell 2000 bitcoins right now would net 809373.3715 USD and would take the last price down to 403.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 404.6867 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 10.3600 seconds
gribble: Bitfinex | A market order to sell 5000 bitcoins right now would net 2012068.3060 USD and would take the last price down to 399.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 402.4137 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 18.6682 seconds
gribble: Bitfinex | A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 3922378.5897 USD and would take the last price down to 362.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 392.2379 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 28.1804 seconds
gribble: Bitfinex | A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 7221905.5597 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0010 USD, resulting in an average price of 72.2191 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 43.9365 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6907 @ 0.00050849 = 3.5121 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00050999 = 1.224 BTC [+]
jurov: also, if there will ever be need for clearsigned-only service, ask me to make new mailing list next to btc-dev (and unlike deedbot, it allows attachments, too)
jurov: with great sadness i have to announce that now it does not even mutilate filenames
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00050999 = 1.8105 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: to the extent it was designed, it was designed to eat ascii.
jurov: when submitting form, browser sends along the encoding.
jurov: not a biggie to send it back, even slap the
http header to raw text (text/plain;charset="$charset")
ben_vulpes: i can almost guarantee that i am not catching encodings right now
adlai: where'd it all go? did mickey sell his miners too?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2214 @ 0.00050999 = 1.1291 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5621 @ 0.00050999 = 2.8667 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: fresh from the... cupines. "I'm obese, but you are hilarious!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7314 @ 0.00050608 = 3.7015 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 01:52:40; BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yes, but I can only ever name one at a time and never specify and ordering lest I jinx the list. This is still feeling now like an alt universe version of 2012-2013
mircea_popescu: as a sign of bitcoin's progress in the intervening coupla years, the amir taaki v2.0 can marginally spell, and in a very flat, vulgar manner express himself in writing.
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 02:59:31; asciilifeform: (do we need a magical flute to make this work ?)
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370682 << you would think that the fucking idiots making handcuffs would have figured out the importance of all using the same key. but no : everyone uses ever-so-slightly-different plain, rectangular shits. and so because i have a bunch of various cuffs and because ending up unable to free a girl happened exactly once... i'm stuck carrying around a fucking pile of tiny l
☝︎☟︎ assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 03:20:29; asciilifeform: i suppose height of my career was as a penniless student: 1 key
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 03:35:18; adlai: actual quote from meatwot-pope: "if somebody executes a death warrant against somebody trying to improve bitcoin, i'll fund and execute one against them myself" (don't judge him, he's prone to angry outbursts)
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 03:45:33; adlai: this is why people who wish for success in life don't go into warrant officer carreers, or even avoid .mil altogether
mircea_popescu: i've known tramps more successful in life than the sort of pointless idiots that come out of "ivy league".
mircea_popescu: this because the tramps were tramps, whereas pressed shit doth not intellectual makes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00050999 = 3.5189 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 04:06:12; BingoBoingo: I could not do it alone. I had to turn my will and life over to my higher power, Brodin the Allspotter.
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 04:07:00; AdrianG: things got more interesting recently with all these blocksizes
mircea_popescu: "The decision was made to pull from our profits to fill these wallets back up over time, thus attempting to avert complete closure of the website at that time. "
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 04:42:22; adlai: seeing as AdrianG did not !register in-channel, we now notice that post-gribble asswot has no way of publicly conjuring public-keyring contents
mircea_popescu: hehe check that out, dub got repelled by the antiuniversalist nature of the new democracy. turns out he was right : the citostatic has prevented tumours (doublespoken as "the channel") from growing. it has however not prevented the list of our accomplishments from growing, which was exactly the fucking point. we don't want more people, and we sure as fuck don't want "all the people". we just want a larger share of ever
mircea_popescu: ything good to flow to ~these~ people, and for it to constantly enlarge. that is all.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "Updated: 1/14/2014" << are you from the past ?
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 05:27:50; pete_dushenski: ered houses. Moreover the three word addresses are available not just in English but in French, Spanish, Portuguese, Swahili, Russian, German, Turkish and Swedish with more languages on the way. The addresses in other languages are not translations but unique 3 word addresses in those languages."
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 05:31:25; ben_vulpes: one of my favorite parts of addresses is how they indicate relative proximity to someone who knows the map
mircea_popescu: think dns, if getting other websites i like would be as easy as adding 1 to "trilema.com"...
mircea_popescu: but of course you can't SIMPLY ADD STRINGS NUMERICALLY right ? :D
punkman: course the rent seeking behaviour entwined in it all is as disgusting as it gets. << their android sdk has all the data/code needed to run your own actually
mircea_popescu: there is exactly 0 possibility that one tries to heysteve and is not rentseeking.
mircea_popescu: strictly the only reason you might try to name things you don't own is your hope to steal a little.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: which is why your parents calling you joe is a fundamentally different activity from the girl at the bar saying "hey stud" or the dudes threatened thereby going "hey loser".
punkman: myeah disregard my comment "Our goal is for what3words to become a global standard for communicating location. At the moment, the core what3words algorithms and data are not in the public domain. In the future, we may release some or all of our source code – we will continually evaluate the business case for doing this."
mircea_popescu: like google's been evaluating the "business case" for not being evil.
mircea_popescu: timothy b lee > wants to write about bitcoin > is not in #bitcoin-assets >wonders why he can't make sense of anything.
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 06:37:05; ben_vulpes: but that low end torque!
mircea_popescu: for applications where the low end of the torque curve is what pays the bills, it is actually worth to generate electricity and run an electric engine rather than run a straight combustion engine arrangement
mircea_popescu: but try and explain it to the ustardian weabos that they are solving an imagined problem with the exactly anti-adequate tools.
shinohai: 3 months? Running for first time with -verifyall
☟︎ shinohai: I dunno mod6 told me it was normal
shinohai: So i just let it chug along. It's running on a shitty board tbh
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370904 << in truth, engine miniaturization has proceeded to the point where this product would be marketable : a 4x4 "true" SUV with a pick-up truck option that has a 2-3 liter gasoline engine with a gpl add-on (so you can run it either on full gasoline, or do gasoline starting and run on gas) that autoswitches from powering the drive train to powering an electric engine
☝︎☟︎ assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 06:38:58; pete_dushenski: the thing is, electric cars have to optimise aero. in the gm 'hybrid' pick-ups, the heinous 'aero' front lip spoilers completely negated the ground clearance, and therefore much of the appeal of trucks in the first place
mircea_popescu: to power the drive train function of torque draw. and just for the marketing, put optional TRACK kit on the list.
mircea_popescu: make it 3-4 tons, damned thing could pretty much climb straight up a wall.
mircea_popescu: there clearly exists a market for $100k cars, and this wouldn't take that to make.
mircea_popescu: have all the good ads for it : take it to a skating rink, pour water up to the axles, watch it freeze, then climb, ignition and just go.
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 06:45:30; ben_vulpes: fucking interstate highway project. greatest goddamn misstep.
mircea_popescu: to bureaucrat's credit, it must be pointed out that this time around they learned from those mistakes of the past and DIDNT spend on infrastructure. just gave the money off to the banks free and clear.
mircea_popescu: of course, to their discredit they still didn't figure out what the COMPLETE correction to their existence is. just went from "doing something stupid" to "not doing anything". the "how about you stop existing at all" thing is too hard.
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 06:48:31; BingoBoingo: The GM hybrid trucks were far more popular for being portable generators than for their hybrid drive, which almost never actually... drove the trucks
mircea_popescu: then one day power was out and suddenly... "wait, isn't that 240 HP engine backed by a full electric generator ? that could do up to 240 HP aka 180 kW ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (in the end it could only do about 110, but that's... still enough)
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 07:10:57; ben_vulpes: "But the idea of buying ocean freight is far less appealing for U.S. companies selling on the Amazon Marketplace. " << you don't fucking say i'm pretty sure i learned during the alcoa saga that nobody exports from the states any more
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 07:17:12; ben_vulpes: anyways, it's not amazon, it's amazon cn, and they're not buying boats, they're operating as a freight forwarder.
mircea_popescu: we're going to see a negative correction here for fucking once.
gribble: Current Blocks: 393414 | Current Difficulty: 1.1335429980147113E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 395135 | Next Difficulty In: 1721 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 15 hours, 48 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00050415 = 2.1174 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00050943 = 1.6302 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: interesting rumor I heard. Gavin when teaming up with the Toomim's told them "who the opposition really was" and they want a #b-a blessing now..."convince the opposition"
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00050942 = 1.5283 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00050299 = 3.0682 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 14:02:23; thestringpuller: interesting rumor I heard. Gavin when teaming up with the Toomim's told them "who the opposition really was" and they want a #b-a blessing now..."convince the opposition"
davout: mircea_popescu: plz to x.eur
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 390.92, Best ask: 390.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 390.83, 24 hour volume: 73577.19043617, 24 hour low: 385.03, 24 hour high: 432.57, 24 hour vwap: None
pete_dushenski: "mass adoption will never happen without consensus u guise !!!1"
assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 21:56:37; mircea_popescu: anyone remember "twobitidiot" ? no, because today it's "toomim brothers". bla bla, whatevs.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski eh, teh usg herps will try and as per usual fail to enact their mattering in the history of the world as recorded by its current sovereign, bitcoin.
pete_dushenski: cheers to mod6 for his assistance in applying stan's last two patches !
☟︎ pete_dushenski: tevye's currently cruising at 18 connex while using ~350 mb memory. this is down from 50+ connex and 2 gb memory
pete_dushenski: "Dow briefly plunges 400 points after data, oil rout" << looks like it's 'sell the farm' day. wti under $30 too.
pete_dushenski: or mebbe pay off loans before yellen cranks the pain plan ratchet again ?
pete_dushenski: "General Electric Co said it would sell its appliance business to China's Haier Group for $5.4 billion in cash, another step in its push to sell its non-core assets and project itself as a technology company." << here's where the chinese money is going.
pete_dushenski: "The deal comes weeks after GE walked away from a deal to sell the business to Sweden's Electrolux for $3.3 billion, following months of opposition from U.S. antitrust regulators." << "we chineese, we no kaya hao much amewikan beezneez cost. we want buy nao !"
☟︎ pete_dushenski: "For Haier, the deal means ownership of a century-old appliance business that makes refrigerators, freezers, clothes washers and dryers across brands such as Monogram, Café, Profile and Artistry. The business trails only Whirlpool Corp in the U.S. white goods market and reported revenue of $5.9 billion last year." << mega-non-core.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski the truth is that "butterism" or however you say in english the chinese concept equivalent to the mexican "malinchismo" ensures that a chinese corp is in the best position to make money from otherwise defunct us brands.
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> cheers to mod6 for his assistance in applying stan's last two patches ! << glad you got it working, Sir. =]
mod6: PeterL: Hey, glad you got it resolved!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 0.42679334 BTC to 5`000`000 shares, 8 satoshi per share
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 15:04:10; pete_dushenski: "The deal comes weeks after GE walked away from a deal to sell the business to Sweden's Electrolux for $3.3 billion, following months of opposition from U.S. antitrust regulators." << "we chineese, we no kaya hao much amewikan beezneez cost. we want buy nao !"
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski they reference the smell of butter of people who eat in the western fashion
mircea_popescu: as milk products are virtually unknown in the mud eating empire.
mircea_popescu: the woman has no idea what she's talking about nor any appreciation of what having an idea even is or why'd it be desirable.
mod6: <+mod6> PeterL: Hey, glad you got it resolved! << should have put this in a later tell, sorry.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 146.34965138 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 29 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: they were sold to the chinese conglomerate lusski for 5.5 bn.
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 12:24:55; mircea_popescu: then one day power was out and suddenly... "wait, isn't that 240 HP engine backed by a full electric generator ? that could do up to 240 HP aka 180 kW ?
ascii_butugychag: it is starvation-cheap, for a fanless pentium thing, and mostly runs
shinohai: so it wouldn't be a waste of money to buy one for node purposes
ascii_butugychag: 'pcengines' makes a cheaper and physically more compact box with AMD chipset, of same horsepower
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 12:12:28; mircea_popescu: my 3 week old node is at 332425
ascii_butugychag: but it does mean that a trb node is largely useless until fully synced.
mircea_popescu: ie "we were trading while insolvent, which is a crime, except for usg agencies"
thestringpuller: "oinbase Exchange is currently experiencing an outage, we are investigating and hope to have it back online soon." << They say it's "technical diffculties" either way, the exchange went down due to high volume trading.
gribble: Error: "goxlag" is not a valid command.
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 11:51:17; mircea_popescu: strictly the only reason you might try to name things you don't own is your hope to steal a little.
mircea_popescu: yeah, right. to quote : "E, se Vostra Magnificenzia dallo apice della sua altezza qualche volta volgerà li occhi in questi luoghi bassi, conoscerà quanto io indegnamente sopporti una grande e continua malignità di fortuna."
ascii_butugychag: lulzily, unrelatedly, i warmed up engine at the crack of dawn, to head to the trains, and turned on radio, '...france demands regulation of terrorist finances, such as the use of virtual currencies, such as bitcoins...'
mircea_popescu: fat child rapist put his hand in an old pillow and is now talking to himself ? fu bahamas.
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 08:10:56; jurov: with great sadness i have to announce that now it does not even mutilate filenames
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 06:32:19; ben_vulpes: although asciilifeform probably does the sme thing with esoteric computer hardware. how would i know...
ascii_butugychag: many times i tried to buy something via otc, it was a sad joke every time
ascii_butugychag: which is interesting, because - before there even was 'ebay' - as a kid, i would buy/sell exotic hardware via usenet
thestringpuller: OTC devolved into madness pretty quickly. Paranoid everyone is a scammer.
mircea_popescu: heh. to quote, "This is stupid way to adjust SNR for a few reasons not least that it is already solved in the IRC protocol. Chanops are a group of people the founder trusts sufficiently to regulate the conversation, deal with bad actors and operate the channel in the manner he intends. Kind of like a web of trust without the numerous failures this bullshit introduces. Default deny will prevent the channel from growing,
mircea_popescu: will not deflect a motivated attack, while adding a handful of SPOFs, risks and annoyance."
mircea_popescu: not only it created powerful with a view to almighty enemies for the "well intentioned" idiots engaging in that nonsense, but also it... fell over, burned and then sunk into the swamp.
pete_dushenski: huh. logs are missing everything from "re: other nazi yachts, lulzy oldie" to "while supplies last - with identical crud; etc"
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: you can't really put a real engine in the composite shits. << what "composite shits" are these ? most high-end cars have carbon-fibre tubs and 600hp+ turbocharged engines with 500lb ft+ of torque
pete_dushenski: pagani even has proprietary titanium-reinforced carbon fibre. very nifty.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: how much does a 600hp turbocharged engine wiht 500lb ft of torque cost ?
ascii_butugychag: why not also include the cost of the law school tuition and the whores
mircea_popescu: so 300k car. what happens if i attach that 300k car to a street pole and go ful lthrothle in the ist ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: right. so the idea was that you could market a 100k real suv/pick up with 4k lbft torque, which if so attached would pull the light out and drag it with two yards' worth of sidewalk and the parked cars.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3888 @ 0.00050189 = 1.9513 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: and in spite of being able to pull train cars / tanks / your house, iut would still do ok on the freeway.
ascii_butugychag: large mining trucks and bulldozers are presently diesel-electric
ascii_butugychag: but the CORRECT way to do these is to throw out the transmission box and have 1 electric motor per wheel.
ascii_butugychag: (you win on efficiency, cost, and also get the regenerative brake thing)
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 06:43:30; pete_dushenski: trains also don't accelerate and decelerate as quickly or as frequently
mircea_popescu: i have no idea what the correct way would be, but i envisaged an auto-transfer arrangement, where the engine powers the drive train except if torque pull gets too strong in which case it kicks off and electric engine takes over
pete_dushenski: ascii_butugychag: ford and vw (with usg/'protean') are working on just that : in-wheel electric motors
ascii_butugychag: because you're paying for that transmission being there at all
mircea_popescu: you want exactly what the market wants : a truck with good highway behaviour.
mircea_popescu: See `config.log' for more details. << what's that say PeterL ?
mircea_popescu: so far it looks like you don't have a working compiler basically
PeterL: aha, do I need to switch to a different compiler?
ascii_butugychag: (has anybody built the thing with clang? i wouldn't use such a trb in the field, but it would be handy for scientific - code coverage, flow graph, etc. purposes)
ascii_butugychag: clang/llvm is well-suited for vivisection, and gcc is, unfortunately (see old threads re: why) is not
mircea_popescu: i recall maybe ben_vulpes toying with this at some point ?
assbot: Defend the world-trashers at the expense of those doing their tiny damndest, and lets see where that gets you ... (
http://bit.ly/1n0N6kX )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3985 @ 0.00050183 = 1.9998 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: oh i'm sure i did at some point, i have a bad windmill mabit
mircea_popescu: so basically to go through portland in relative safety one needs a half dozen fascia bearers to bullwhip a whole horde of plebs away enough to form a path.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00050183 = 1.1542 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: there are twenty feet of tarpaulined hoarder-pile stacked along 20th avenue, just outside the aforementioned col. summers park
ben_vulpes: the parks department won't touch it because it's not in the park proper
ben_vulpes: and the cops won't touch it because "be nice to the homeless!"
ascii_butugychag: 'These two groups will always be at odds: the former striving endlessly to turn shitholes into nice little houses, and shabby ghettos into marginally liveable neighborhoods; and the latter preying upon the former's parks for places to sleep, their churches for free meals, and generally attempting to take the nice things for which they did no work and kick the others out.' << that last sent
mircea_popescu: what exactly is the difference between "politician"? and hobo ? student ? etc.
ben_vulpes: small pineapple, large pineapple, should not matter when sitting. idem broomsticks prolly.
ascii_butugychag: idk, even tepes was said to have used multiple calibers of stake, on a case by case basis
mircea_popescu: but i look forward to you learned men and your treatises of medicine discussing tuberculosis remedies by scale.
mircea_popescu: "if it's a big tuberculosis, drink coffee. if it is still small, drink tea!"
mircea_popescu: that incidentally is a very informative field of study for he who aims to be a better systems expert : cancer cures.
mircea_popescu: the criteria for operability are very strictly given. for instance pancreatic cancer : has it touched the fat planes protecting the mesenteric vessels ?
mircea_popescu: it's not a matter of scale except to the layman. it is a matter of very alphabetical lists of things, for the professional.
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, i got an entire night of sleep last night
ben_vulpes: *and* the child may be getting it as well.
ben_vulpes: hipster goddes of luck, aka lady infity, lady limit
ben_vulpes: has domain over chance, mean reversion
ben_vulpes: statistically unlikely events and i guess vanity addresses
mircea_popescu: 27/12 : gribble: 837554982.002 ; 13/1 gribble: 886485320.427 ; 15/1 : 12:30:43 gribble: 765883451.143
gribble: The average time to generate a block at 768156022.097 Mhps, given difficulty of 1.13354299801e+11, is 1 week, 0 days, 8 hours, 3 minutes, and 24 seconds
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so what's the rest of that shaking ny black dude hands story ?
gribble: (nethash takes no arguments) -- Shows the current estimate for total network hash rate, in Ghps.
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 14:45:17; pete_dushenski: cheers to mod6 for his assistance in applying stan's last two patches !
mircea_popescu: not all intercourse is fucking to require something hard to get it started, alfie!
ascii_butugychag: lulzily i am using a keyboard at this minute that is only slightly bigger than a vhs tape
ascii_butugychag: actually it is extremely painful on account of missing f keys and home/end/pgup/pgdown
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> a proper thing simply does not fit on this here desk. <<as the world famous afanti once said, "don't laugh at chinese nopee girls lest you come to ride on their desks one day"
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: nah, that'd be more merciful, doesn't need a keyboard...
mircea_popescu: am i a truly miserable character if the sufferances of the young wethers in my own party actually amuse me ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: sometimes people just like to cuddle << you ever try telling this to a shawty who just wanna fuck? doesn't go over well.
ascii_butugychag: the desk isn't even small. but the laptop and two hanging lcd occupy almost all of the width
thestringpuller: what's so lulzy? that Gavin and Hearn tried to build a nuke and failed miserably like best korea. (where their solution to rockets is having 1000 north koreans fling the bomb over the ocean)
mircea_popescu: Mircea is free to attack the coming upgrade. He will fail, because "Bitcoin is not a reflection of Mircea's hopes and aspirations, but a check on them."
mircea_popescu: derps on a first name basis with me. perhaps on account of my having fucked their mothers or something, no idea.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00050219 = 1.7326 BTC [+]
ascii_butugychag: so ben_vulpes why does xcode take multiple minutes to load a 37 byte 'xml' turd
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: It seems we are living in your Pointless and Witless hypothetical. That story didn't have a happy ending tho.
thestringpuller: well pointless wasn't left with much optimism just, "Eventually I will lose to the witless."
thestringpuller: "Pointless : I guess sooner or later I'll lose, because idiocy has infinite hitpoints."
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 10:50:59; mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370682 << you would think that the fucking idiots making handcuffs would have figured out the importance of all using the same key. but no : everyone uses ever-so-slightly-different plain, rectangular shits. and so because i have a bunch of various cuffs and because ending up unable to free a girl happened exactly once... i'm stuck carrying around a fuc
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it could just as well be dude watching an insect burner thing going "i guess eventuallt it'll fill up"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00050387 = 2.0155 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 15:51:50; ascii_butugychag: 'pcengines' makes a cheaper and physically more compact box with AMD chipset, of same horsepower
ascii_butugychag: but they actually publish schematics. you could even have your own made, somewhere.
trinque: "By saying "eliminate the state" we are advocating a security improvement, namely adopting signature schemes that do not need to record information after every signature. We are not talking about eliminating other types of states. We love most states, especially yours!" << oh god
trinque tries to find that picture of guy with american flag planted in his ass, can't
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00050198 = 1.5059 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: How the social engineering sausage is made
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: I only found out about the APU2 because openbsd-misc has people occasionally derping about the unfinished firmware on the new one
ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: amd publishes the chip docs, you're welcome to finish it personally...
BingoBoingo: Seems the finishing is largegly being 'crowdsourced' but moves to quad core AMD kaveri chip if I recal correctly
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Have you considered working on your crazy eyes and walking with a hand in your pocket?
BingoBoingo amazed even the saner people from Portland seem have shortcomings in their orccraft
mircea_popescu: gold is afaik still illegal to hold for chinese private parties.
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BingoBoingo: Ah, this looks like great January correction. Fucking bizzaro history continues.
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag then i read it carefully. notice how the whole thing makes no sense and there's actually visible lines where syntactic units were thrown together ?
mircea_popescu: "ai", in the sense not of intelligence, but in the sense of "not distinguishable from average human".
mircea_popescu: notice how high ranked the acct is in the site's own terms.
mircea_popescu: that's more than wikipedia spammers such as yourself accomplish!
ascii_butugychag: quite likely it is an 'imperium in imperio' upvote clique, elementarily
mircea_popescu: ThePhD: "To this day, MooingDuck has probably been the most helpful lounge person I've come across."
mircea_popescu: Dzek Trek: "@MooingDuck is the best teacher here. He explains everything in the way that just listeners want to hear."
mircea_popescu: Dan: You explain things fully and in a way that just makes sense to me.
mircea_popescu: notice that the [no doubt actual] google software engineer behind the crapolade is deeply aware of what the holes in the levies are.
ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: how would i know, i'm just a human compiler
mircea_popescu: because people go around with links to that in their pastes ?
mircea_popescu: all come up for a strict search for "static variables exist for the "lifetime" of the translation unit that it's defined in, and:"
ascii_butugychag: if thing is a bot which cribs from www, it is a pretty good one
mircea_popescu enjoys an immense inflow of pesos now that btc has dropped a little, because hey, local idjits price by medieval methods.
ascii_butugychag: still seems like it could easily be a prolific and plagiaristic (e.g., east asian) human
mircea_popescu: the "reddit experiment" is in full swing, even WE can't distinguish anymore.
mircea_popescu: what change's a webified ustardian "computer science major" got.
ascii_butugychag: orlov may not even have understood the full implications of his lulzpiece
ascii_butugychag: but the tardatron is genuinely obsessed with making convincing faux ~lusers~
ascii_butugychag: and for a great many purposes, spambots are at least as good as 'people'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2284 @ 0.00050524 = 1.154 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: actually, for all purposes. there is no sense in which a spambot is not a better "people" than a us citizen today.
ascii_butugychag: well, certain ceremonies still require warm bodies, but this is being worked on
mircea_popescu does not honestly believe items not in the republic are in any sense human.
mircea_popescu: * mircea_popescu does not honestly believe items not in the republic are in any sense human. << this, incidentally, why the write on tits is so important.
ascii_butugychag: but as of the 2004 election, there is NOT A PERMA-RECORD of particular votes
ascii_butugychag: i was, in those days, a foolish student, and actually went and picketed 'your vote doesn't count! literally!'
mircea_popescu: but you forget, ustardian doesn't want his "vote to count". he wants the ebt to keep showing up.
ascii_butugychag: but in point of fact there is no 'honest work' going on anywhere in usa, with possible exception of mafia hits etc
mircea_popescu: from what i hear mafia's pretty much a joke for years now
ascii_butugychag: i've never even personally sat more than 2 or so hops away from usg, payola-wise
mircea_popescu: and to think your parents moved specifically to avoid this fate for you.
mircea_popescu: ah i see. with romanians it was a big deal "i want my kids to grow up free"
ascii_butugychag: by '92 it was pretty clear what 'phreeee' meant for most folks
mircea_popescu: lord almighty, is there no end of waitresses whose real passion is photography/music/blabla ?!
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: what kind of answer do you expect them to give ? 'my real passion is mixing cement'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00050664 = 2.0772 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: incidentally : it seems my account on okcupid was briefly banned this monring, judging by how the script croaked
ascii_butugychag: (does it still have the 'what type of creature are you' thing?)
BingoBoingo: <ascii_butugychag> manul is pretty but not man-eating << yet
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> anyone ever heard of something like this befoar ?! << Not unheard of
mircea_popescu: anyway, ascii_butugychag point being : mechanized sorting of the playing innocents is, after all, an economic activity.
BingoBoingo: Prolly pissed some users off and they flagged you and got autobanned with a manual overturn of ban
BingoBoingo: ^ Bigger news than the Dow sucking ass today
mircea_popescu: this makes so little sense... what'll distribute the iron rats to the trashy plebs ?!
ascii_butugychag: i often wonder, how long would it take me to notice if every single wallmart vanished overnight
thestringpuller: I was literally just told "Buy Wal-Mart stock. Always holds against a recession"
BingoBoingo: Surviving walmart will mircea_popescu just gotta take more bus nao to get to walmart
mircea_popescu: because of the absence of drones everywhere and some smoke in the air.
mircea_popescu: what exactly did you imagine keeps the semblance of a "palace" standing up ?
mircea_popescu: they stress-tested this once, delayed ebt almost a whole weekend.
ascii_butugychag: mega-s33kr1t for mircea_popescu: ebt etc. work at places other than l0lmart
mircea_popescu: if this didn't exist, the whole "i didn't spend 50 bux to fix my car two weeks ago so i gotta pay 1100 today" thing wouldn't exist.
mircea_popescu: so without free shelf-stable cheese dispensaries... someone's gonna have problems.
ascii_butugychag feels physically ill recalling the mere existence of the 'shelf-stable cheese' thing
mircea_popescu: ok, another riddle for the ages: wtf is with all the chicks having much better looking chicks in their profile pics ?
mircea_popescu: they ever-so-carefully avoid showing how fat they are. on one hand. and on the other...
ascii_butugychag: same thing as with job candidates having much better looking biographies in their cv ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ok, another riddle for the ages: wtf is with all the chicks having much better looking chicks in their profile pics ? << 'Catfishing" or more accurately 'fatfishing'
mircea_popescu: and they never say "i'm the ugly one" either. or you know, "the short boring looking one". it's always "i'm the one in the right
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i mean, taking pic with mom i can see, serious psychological disturbances.
mircea_popescu: but... what fucking female doesn't understand you find some UGLIER friends to wing for you ?!
ascii_butugychag: possibly they actually think 'the light of the beauty' illuminates them ?
mircea_popescu: this is on par with imagining periods will make them feel good.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3509 @ 0.00050156 = 1.76 BTC [-] {2}
PeterL: I thought it built that earlier in the script?
PeterL: in my folder i am building in there is a directory "openssl-1.0.1g"
PeterL: just trying to follow directions on trb website
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag srsly nao. this thing is supposed to build.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: not for nintendo. unless and until i port it to nintendo.
mircea_popescu: mmm im not too fresh on this but somewhere in the script it's told where to find the things it needs,
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2591 @ 0.00050073 = 1.2974 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: and since it's looking for openssl/buffer.h as opposed to openssl-1.0.1g/buffer.h i'd guess it's lost
PeterL: I see a line "OPENSSL=openssl-1.0.1g" in the script, is that it?
mircea_popescu: ok that's not it, does the file it wants actually exist on your system ? can you find it ?
mircea_popescu: (is it a ridiculous mishap such as results sometimes from manual archive manipulation where you have openssl-1.0.1g/openssl-1.0.1g/blabla ?)
gribble: Current Blocks: 393453 | Current Difficulty: 1.1335429980147113E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 395135 | Next Difficulty In: 1682 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 5 hours, 51 minutes, and 29 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mod6: PeterL: hi, are you using the v99997 build script?
PeterL: oh, wait, is that the same one linked on trb website?
mod6: did you try to run this script more than one time?
mod6: no, i don't think it's linked. it's not 'official' at this point -- just a thing I put together to build the full orchastra and pull & press src with V.
mod6: ok, so trying to run that script more than once might cause some pain.
mod6: i'd try creating a new dir somewhere, putting the build script in the new dir, and then running it again.
mod6: oh yeah. that's very old. lemme dig up the latest one.
PeterL: I guess I am just not sure how to get v to build it once I have v?
mod6: so, V doesn't actually do any building at all.
PeterL: ok, I used v to get the source, then what do i do with the source to build it?
mod6: it just pulls down the vpatches, and inflates the source tree from zero.
mod6: <+PeterL> ok, I used v to get the source, then what do i do with the source to build it? << the latest build script will do all of this for you ~except~ creating your ~/.wot directory with the appropriatly named keys placed in the directory.
mod6: you need buildroot+everything to build the static binary.
PeterL: which one is the latest build script?
mod6 is still digging in the logs.
mod6: is there a way to search the deeds in deedbot?
PeterL: google site:deedbot.org searchstring ?
mod6: thanks, couldn't find it on deedbot though
mod6: but this is the one
mod6: and... like i said, create a new dir, drop this script in there and run it -- but be aware that if left unchanged from the original, it'll not build alf's latest two patches in when pressing the source out.
mod6: if you want it to do so, you'll need to edit this line:
mod6: ./v.pl p verbose TEST2 asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch
mod6: and change it to this:
mod6: ./v.pl p verbose TEST2 asciilifeform-programmable-versionstring.vpatch
PeterL: maybe the website could include a note to not use that script? or just take it off the front page?
mod6: my apologies. what exists on the website is meant to help someone build v0.5.3.1 -- the rest of this stuff is basically as-of-yet-unreleased.
mod6: trying to get there... just a zillion things to work on :(
PeterL: no problem, i understand
BingoBoingo: Prolly ought to get out a 0.5.4 relase tagged, since... that database fix is necessary
BingoBoingo: I mean... unless we plan a future reorg back to August 2015...
BingoBoingo: Thanks to V there's no serious need to tag anything beyond the BDB fix in a release, but... Gotta tag something useful as the recommended
PeterL: does v have to be in the same directory as the buildscript?
PeterL: I tried to run the script, it just says ": invalid option"
mod6: getting it resolved... he's on a i686 env.
mod6: ben_vulpes: so yah, having the keys on blogs/homepages isn't a bad idea.
mod6: but... maybe it'd be useful to put the links to our exported, ascii armored keys in the assets wiki?
mod6: that way when someone wants to get going with V, they can find the keys without having to dig through 6 blogs.
mod6: and additionally, this cuts out SKS.
mod6: ;;later tell PeterL Sorry, just missed you there. Thanks for your patience and efforts to build! We'll get through it.
BingoBoingo: You got to understand the fiat orchestra is coming together
mircea_popescu: what exactly do miner producers have to do with this discussion ?
mircea_popescu: "That puts over 50% of the hash rate behind Bitcoin Classic, consensus has been achieved."
mircea_popescu: "A few hardcore small-blockians might actually delay their switch, because the level of anger from that nasty group will be unimaginable, when their beloved developers betray them like this. Popescu alone will probably have a heart attack :)"
mircea_popescu: mno, i will simply be staying with bitcoin. as aformentioned, good riddance.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00050864 = 1.5259 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: But it's easy to see how this plays out. Hearn agenda fails and he loudly quits. Derps knee jerk sold on Hearn agenda which is still a pile of fail
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> lol coinbase doesn't let people buy anymore? :D << not today
BingoBoingo: But yes, fiat media was all ready to run on hearn's "Bitcoin dead" and loyal USG exchanges ready to prevent buying to fire the broomstick one last time
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: it's ashame they underestimate the enemy. when reality sets in the classic, "No one saw this coming!!!111" will echo throughout the chambers.
mircea_popescu: all that hard work trying to select a marginally defensible epithet and coming up with "classic"...
☟︎ BingoBoingo: The only material difference between XT and "classic" is "classic" has a vague chance of triggering the crisis. XT never had a chance. Not in this or any other hell.
mircea_popescu: amusingly... they don't even have 1/3 of the "public support"/astroturf of xt ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> da fuck is this limp dick shit lmao. << This time they skipped the astroturf to just do the VC dollar squeeze
mircea_popescu: so the derps are going to control 5bn worth of usg poison with some idle promises for maybe 30-50mn theoretical and in fact a few thouysand here and there ?
mircea_popescu: what is this, usg's wet dream ? go sink a chinese aircraft carrier, yo.
irdial: !register 5E16D36EDB3240F9
assbot: That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.
gernika: thx BingoBoingo. Curious what's the deal with coinbase? I just bought some btc there like 1 hr ago...
BingoBoingo: gernika: Well, they are having a lot of "service interruptions" today
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00050695 = 3.3459 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: Has the Bitcoin hit your own wallet yet or is it still in Coinbase?
gernika: saw something on reddit where some guy said he couldn't buy
gernika: No - never hits my wallet until a week after I buy, which is normal.
gernika: And no I don't keep more than a pittance in the wallet at any time.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3298 @ 0.00050615 = 1.6693 BTC [-] {2}
irdial: !register E930 6C6E 1CCE 5697 A88B 5482 5E16 D36E DB32 40F9
assbot: That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.
irdial: !register E9306C6E1CCE5697A88B54825E16D36EDB3240F9
assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: E9306C6E1CCE5697A88B54825E16D36EDB3240F9. This may take a few moments.
assbot: Key DB3240F9 / "Irdial-Discs <irdial@irdial.com>" successfully imported.
assbot: Registration successful.
gernika: Would prefer not to use coinbase any longer, but no "exchange" is any better, and bitcoin-otc is dead.
jurov: !gettrust jurov gernika
jurov: gernika i am selling btc via transferwise, so far works well
BingoBoingo: irdial: ty, now you can !up yourself in channel and if you wish you may drop an dpaste encrypted to my public key here for consideration for qntra publication
jurov: (not big volume tho)
BingoBoingo: irdial: If something you submit does get published you talk to jurov about collecting your shares. Thank you for your patience.
gernika: ascii_butugychag: I've done a few small transactions on otc. All went smoothly.
gernika: But since the bot went down, haven't used it.
irdial: BingoBongo Thatnk you for helping me.
BingoBoingo: irdial: No problem. Just please !up yourself to make sure you have the process for doing so down.
jurov: irdial you're up already, i'll devoice you first, then retry
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00050942 = 1.6556 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: irdial oh and talk to assbot in pm, not here
ascii_butugychag: 'If you noticed, yesterday at the Hutchins Center, they had a very important meeting comprised of 15 or so people. They included 6-8 members from the Federal Reserve, R3 members, Bitcoin industry members, and also individuals from greater finance. When the R3 guy was speaking,
https://youtu.be/R0iArSIU0Z8?t=47m16s , he was saying "I don't know what time it is, but any minute now there will
ascii_butugychag: be a New York Times article saying Mike Hearn broke up with Bitcoin and called it a failed experiment."' << l0l
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, would help if someone gave him a rating first :p
BingoBoingo: !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.irdial.1:fea0f97f18bed88a3642c4a450d4595eca0ea2591c2f4557fae869882916da7c
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for irdial with note: loud
danielpbarron: i think i tried to give him a -1 a while back but couldn't because he was in the wrong WoT
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2831 @ 0.0005033 = 1.4248 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00050943 = 9.6792 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00050943 = 1.1717 BTC [+]