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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132454 << how could the answer possibly be anything other than yes ? ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 22:53:19; decimation: re: pay 30 btc to upgrade mpex keys < does this mean that if you can crack an mpex key you get to use it?
williamdunne: !gettrust mjr
assbot: mjr is not registered in WoT.
williamdunne: !gettrust Josh_rossi
assbot: Trust relationship from user williamdunne to user Josh_rossi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=williamdunne&to=Josh_rossi | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Josh_rossi/
williamdunne: !rate josh_rossi 2 maecenas, finex
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/04c2c540beaf5070
williamdunne: !v assbot:williamdunne.rate.josh_rossi.2:9dafb7ad24b85513992ba08077a5a6ec34e3fc49dda883a79871ff4fb09cb711
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 2 for josh_rossi with note: maecenas, finex
asciilifeform: http://www.computer.org/csdl/proceedings/afips/1959/5055/00/50550028.pdf
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1B0dNqD )
asciilifeform: unsurprisingly, nothing i said today is actually new
asciilifeform: 'deposited magnetic films as logic elements.' (proceedings of the eastern joint computer conference, 1959. franck, marette, & parsegyan.)
asciilifeform: the key boojum missing from all of this work is: a likewise purely-magnetic means of arbitrarily altering the -interconnects- between elements.
asciilifeform: (then you get: 'fpga' which doesn't give a damn about radiation, can be fabricated with 1940s equipment, etc)
asciilifeform: http://www.computer.org/csdl/proceedings/afips/1959/5055/00/50550038.pdf << also interesting, re: 'microwave logic'
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1B0e8JY )
asciilifeform: (from same period)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al ^^
williamdunne: !s Josh_rossi
assbot: 47 results for 'Josh_rossi' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=Josh_rossi
asciilifeform: http://www.computer.org/csdl/proceedings/afips/index.html << interestingly, they stopped holding this conference in '87. which closely, if approximately, lines up with 'when computers stopped being interesting'
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1B0efVI )
asciilifeform: http://www.sri.com/work/timeline-innovation/timeline.php?timeline=computing-digital#&innovation=all-magnetic-logic-computer
assbot: SRI International ... ( http://bit.ly/1B0eWyj )
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --marker buttstamp
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market buttstamp
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 237.05, Best ask: 237.25, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 237.24, 24 hour volume: 7543.17628662, 24 hour low: 232.22, 24 hour high: 239.7, 24 hour vwap: 236.767276015
asciilifeform: http://spectrum.ieee.org/geek-life/history/the-great-lightbulb-conspiracy << unrelated, historical interest
assbot: The Great Lightbulb Conspiracy - IEEE Spectrum ... ( http://bit.ly/1B0g3OD )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I have a fixture which disagrees with CFLS. Since the bulbocaust my stock is depleting rapidly as bulbs that once lasted years only now last months
asciilifeform: outdoor?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Indoor, shares a circuit with a dimmer switch
asciilifeform: tried led 'bulb' ?
BingoBoingo: Not yet. May guve that a try if I pick up LEDs before this batch dies. Was considering LED bulbs for an outdoor fixture, but witing on outdoor fixture's bulb to die first because it hates human contact.
Namworld: Ok, it's been a while
Namworld: Hello everyone
trinque: hello Namworld
trinque: !up Asenath
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 260300 @ 0.0002806 = 73.0402 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: local l0ltr0n: last week, university of maryland proclaimed that it will charge higher tuition price to students majoring in business, engineering, and comp. sci.
asciilifeform: (no prizes for guessing why)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75400 @ 0.00028063 = 21.1595 BTC [+]
trinque: asciilifeform: you should give me a prize if I guess wrong
trinque: it's only fair
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52000 @ 0.00027719 = 14.4139 BTC [-]
cazalla: australia no longer safe for americans lol http://dpaste.com/3Z2FFHP.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1bTpqsP )
decimation: asciilifeform: usg friendly 'liberal' majors are subsidized, of course
decimation: asciilifeform: apparently it's mp's position that an mpex seat is implicitly time limited ☟︎
mircea_popescu: how goes Namworld
mircea_popescu: derp on trilema offers "military campaigns" as example of plans that worked (tm)
mircea_popescu: the crowdsourced internet, putting pro comics out of business since september 1993
williamdunne: riiighhhtttt
decimation: mircea_popescu: sure! bombing libya was an example of a brilliant plan to shepard the outbreak of love and democracy, not throwing matches at a barrel of petrol
williamdunne: A mouthful of freedom; http://38.media.tumblr.com/88b077e9cd05d5b539bfebc783d3627e/tumblr_n9tskosimG1r7e6duo2_400.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5bYyt )
mircea_popescu: decimation yeah totally. meanwhile the brilliant plan tostop supporting israel has resulted in an israel that could no longerr pull off the halfweek war, thus the arabs are no longer affraid of it, thus saudi arabia has no further need for the us alliance, thus they're trashing it.
mircea_popescu: brilliant plan, brilliantly executed. meanwhile, the chinese go to putin's victory celebration, the us press derps about how the european heads of "states" missed the opportunity to be relevant.
mircea_popescu: obama holds an arab world summit, nobody goes, us press is all quiet on THAT score.
williamdunne: Haven't heard about that one, what should I be googling?
decimation: yeah that's a good point. apparently the arabs are not happy that the us intends to proxy iran instead of them
menahem: williamdunne ahh i love #b-a.. all the right reminders. :)
decimation: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/barack-obama-flubs-name-of-first-saudi-king-117945.html
assbot: Whoops: Obama flubs name of first Saudi king - Nick Gass - POLITICO ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5cEnM )
mircea_popescu: williamdunne http://nypost.com/2015/05/11/obamas-lonely-arab-summit/ say.
assbot: Obama’s lonely ‘Arab Summit’ | New York Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5cJHV )
mircea_popescu: or i guess www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32694184
williamdunne: >Even the offer by Obama of a separate tete-a-tete in Washington could not persuade Saudi Arabia’s King Salman to attend what Riyadh sources describe as “a photo-op” aimed at hoodwinking the American public.
williamdunne: rekt
decimation: basically the us stole saudi arabia's oil from the british - which is the foundation of us power in the middle east for the past 70 years. obama apparently is ignorant of this history
trinque: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/14/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-promises-to-match-iran-in-nuclear-capability.html?_r=0
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5d9xT )
trinque: let 'em nuke each other
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32220 @ 0.00028063 = 9.0419 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56950 @ 0.00028456 = 16.2057 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: mats went to check out the courts article, seems there's quite a bit left to go before i can close & award it. http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#selection-317.0-325.66 ☟︎
assbot: So who's running the Courts circus ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5hSzT )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132514 << this appears to be an inescapable inference, yes ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 02:29:00; decimation: asciilifeform: apparently it's mp's position that an mpex seat is implicitly time limited
scoopbot_revived: New MPEx fee http://trilema.com/2015/new-mpex-fee/
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132398 << lol teh haet. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 21:45:38; jurov: he's born into wrong time, prolly wants to build a pyramid
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132394 << not a question of "logical continuation". are children the "logical continuation" of their parents ? are they still required to pass the bacalaureat ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 21:44:05; ascii_field: i'm kinda curious why mircea_popescu considers a new key signed with a previous key to not be a logical continuation of the same identity. (is it because of the impossibility of hard-guaranteed revocation, as discussed in previous thread?) ☟︎
williamdunne: >It was recently brought to my attention that yes, the MPEx fee for registering new accounts is still 30 BTC.
williamdunne: lawl
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132410 << SCANDAL!11 mod6 ? ben_vulpes ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 21:49:50; davout: meanwhile, http://blog.bitcoinfoundation.org/ leads to a "The Free Trial is Over" stock page XD
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is ludicrous sophistry and you know it. if i sign key y with key x, it is proof that i hold key x. nothing to do with parents or children, no analogy here.
mircea_popescu: it's no such proof. it's proof that you are willing to allow the holder of key y to continue in your stead. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: no requirement he be you.
decimation: meanwhile, hacker h will one day cuckold key y
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so this is mainly to discourage reselling account ?
mircea_popescu: well in practice it seems it's mainly to drive people up the wall.
mircea_popescu: but anyway : it's not to anything. it's because.
asciilifeform is wondering what mpex seat will cost by the time he actually needs it
mircea_popescu: gotta keep lyfe interesting for people.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally, what is to keep it from costing X, where X is whatever s.nsa is worth at that time ?
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: !t m s.nsa
assbot: [MPEX:S.NSA] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00009001 / 0.00009843 / 0.00009851 (121000 shares, 11.91 BTC)
williamdunne: asciilifeform: Wouldn't it serve the opposite purpose, and encourage account reselling?
asciilifeform: no relation to extant numbers. but serious question.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 4737075 * 0.00009843
gribble: 466.27029225
mircea_popescu: omfg stop bitching privilege boy!
asciilifeform: regardless of what is bought and sold by s.nsa, i can't eat any of it unless i buy mpex ticket.
mircea_popescu: what is that, like 70% yours ?
asciilifeform: which presently costs about what my organs are worth
mircea_popescu: your organs are worth 10k ?
mircea_popescu: what do you take yourself for, a 16yo girl ?
williamdunne: asciilifeform: If you find a decent buyer, I'll give you 10% commission on a kidney.
mircea_popescu: no value in organs of old men!
asciilifeform: if correctly parcelled out and sold to americans, they could be worth 10k.
asciilifeform: but mainly taken in proverbial 'organs worth' sense of 'more money than i ever expect to touch at one time'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you recall the entire warrants business btw ?
asciilifeform: aha
mircea_popescu: that's what, another ~350 ish
mircea_popescu: better start saving!
asciilifeform: l0l saving.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52400 @ 0.00028599 = 14.9859 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: anyway, here's some rosy glasses for you :
mircea_popescu: suppose within the year cardano proves such a success s.nsa trades ~0.00020000 like s.bbet. at that point, your 70% share of the stock will be worth 663.1905 ; your warrants like another 663.1904. if btc is 1.2k at that point again, you're now worth a million and a half in benjies
mircea_popescu: ima make sure the mpex fee is 1.250 mn or so at that point :D
asciilifeform: which can turn into 0 when mircea_popescu resets the price of mpex ticket to equal 663.1905
asciilifeform: aha.
mircea_popescu: yeah but at least you had fun.
mircea_popescu: better than vegas eh.
williamdunne: Can't you access warrants and the similar through coinbr?
mircea_popescu: (i also fucked up the math, warrants only worth like 330)
asciilifeform: williamdunne: i will not use coinbr.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne of course he can.
asciilifeform: williamdunne: because wtf decay
mircea_popescu: he can access them via otc, for that matter, just sell em to someone. but it makes little sense before share goes over par.
asciilifeform: williamdunne: i couldn't use coinbr even if wanted to, because it would be a recurring btc cost and i have no btc-denominated income stream.
williamdunne: Ah ok, fair nuff
mircea_popescu: well... you could start polyamory-ing, and then getting a new girl each week and then tricking her into having her picture taken with weird numbers written on her chest.
mircea_popescu: .4 a month.
mircea_popescu: should cover coinbr
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i could also visit buenos aires via fart propulsion and wings made from garbage bags.
asciilifeform: just as theoretically possible.
mircea_popescu: what do you think this is, a gilliam movie ?
decimation: I donno, how much energy can you extract from one colon's gas?
asciilifeform: decimation: the same amount of girl pickup energy i have
decimation: heh
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so buy a club.
asciilifeform: l0l
mircea_popescu: (one of my favourite jokes long ago. because i knew this ugly obnoxious dude who was kinda rape-y, and also kept buying clubs, as in, bars with music.)
asciilifeform: 'do you believe in clubs for young people?' 'yes, but one ought to try kindness first'
williamdunne: !s cardano cost
assbot: 1 results for 'cardano cost' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cardano+cost
mircea_popescu: "one fart-meter"
asciilifeform: williamdunne: cost will inescapably have to adjust to exchange rate at time of mass production
asciilifeform: williamdunne: component costs are denominated in usd and will likely be long after i'm dead
williamdunne: Thats fine, USD prices are k by me
mircea_popescu: give up meat, live longer!
williamdunne: !s cardano price
assbot: 1 results for 'cardano price' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cardano+price
asciilifeform: give up live, meat longer
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132434 << yeah srsly, one of the best private chuckles for ... well, for some people ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 21:55:34; ascii_field: (actually ~1.4 that it turned into)
mircea_popescu: is that alf actually beats a lot of "professional" managers
asciilifeform: l0l
mircea_popescu: sorta informal "alf benchmark"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you do recall what it was i bought with it, aha?
mircea_popescu: notrly
asciilifeform: mpoe & dice
mircea_popescu: heh
decimation: what else is gonna bring in btc income
decimation: mining, gambling, 'financial services'
mircea_popescu: decimation i make some from trilema.
decimation: ah, selling content
decimation: no one believes that btc/usd is going to stay where it is for the long run
decimation: so who would fund a business in present btc/usd?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132451 << i was gonna bitch but then i saw the gif. that's a kickass gif. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 22:30:12; cazalla: much better than the grainy tumblr shit someone else links :)
williamdunne: decimation: I think the current logic is slippage
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132463 << what are you two on about ? obviously if the keys can be cracked you do nbot wish to use them. who uses bitcoin addresses with known pubkeys ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 00:05:30; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132454 << how could the answer possibly be anything other than yes ?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132410 << SCANDAL!11 mod6 ? ben_vulpes ? << haha ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 21:49:50; davout: meanwhile, http://blog.bitcoinfoundation.org/ leads to a "The Free Trial is Over" stock page XD
decimation: well, I was thinking about the case where one couldn't 'upgrade' a key because of threats to existing key lengths
mircea_popescu: i don't get it ?
decimation: implicitly, this means that the existing keyholders are sentenced to cuckoldry?
mircea_popescu: not sure what cuckoldry is, but, they can just register another key and push their stuff to it ?
decimation: right, so either they pay you or they lose their btc to some key guesser?
mircea_popescu: how would the key guesser know which key to guess ?
mircea_popescu: besides, factoring 4096 keys is not quite that much of a given. for one thing, 1kb keys have not been factored yet. for the other... moore law, again ?
decimation: it's a good point, but is strong enough to close the escape hatch?
mircea_popescu: iguess we see once some chickens escape.
decimation: fair enough. I would wager against it happening in the next 20 years
mircea_popescu: i have my doubts 4096 keys will EVER be factored.
decimation: me too
mircea_popescu: the idea that computing power is a monotone... heh. out of the crooked timber of humanity, no monotone was ever made.
mircea_popescu: (for they following at home : 4x as many bits does not mean 4x as large numbers. when computer registers went from 32 to 64 bits, maxint went from 2147483647 to 9,223,372,036,854,775,807) ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is betting on civilization collapse before 4k factored, aha
asciilifeform: not bad bet, either
mircea_popescu: doewsn't even have to be collapse. consider : a hot area of research in the 50s/60s even 70s was genetics of intelligence.
mircea_popescu: what's the progress in the 1990 - 2010 period ?
asciilifeform: or more mundanely, breeder reactors
mircea_popescu: supposedly a major contributor to gdp worldwide is, mental health medication.
asciilifeform: fields get 'magicked' out of existence all the time.
mircea_popescu: what EXACTLY is the progress, past 30 years ? ballas has the story in detail
mircea_popescu: or even closer to home : ai.
mircea_popescu: where is the mit ai lab ? it was SO respectable in the 60s
decimation: they sorta turned into that place where that chick sews shit
asciilifeform: the collapse of ai ('ai winter') quite arguably created a black hole with sufficient suction to take -all- of computing with it
asciilifeform: (however delayed)
mircea_popescu: i don't see a future for the stuff covered by moore's law, for the very simple reason we could call "obama's arab league failure"
mircea_popescu: to wit, the usians got beaten at it, so now it will have to no longer exist
asciilifeform: at any rate, moore's law as this passive quasi-mythical gifts-from-god thing hasn't been cryptographically relevant for a while.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's a snippet that will be perhaps insturctive. the ai winter and the vg winter happened almost in tandem. the latter resolved within a year.by the end of the decade vg was WAY ahead of the beginning.
asciilifeform: the only genuine concern is 'unicorns' (p==np, optical factorizer, entirely unknown strange) for which the incentive is more or less infinite and so will come into existence if at all physically possible
mircea_popescu: supposedly ai had much brighter minds at its disposal. what made the difference ?
asciilifeform: vg?
mircea_popescu: video games
asciilifeform: aha
decimation: ^ note that a similar incentive exists for alchemy
mircea_popescu: 1983. the thing completely collapsed
mircea_popescu: 99.x% loss in sales, most commentators agreeing "it was prolly a fad" etc.
asciilifeform: decimation: see old threads re: how neutron bombardment caps the price of gold
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: more or less everyone knows about the mass atari burials, etc
mircea_popescu: right.
decimation: asciilifeform: before that, astroid mining presumably
mircea_popescu: so, why ? why did the geniuses of mit fare so very much worse than the rag tag band of idiots and imbeciles coding for z80 in their bedrooms ?
asciilifeform: i would argue that the overvaluation of games was considerably less dramatic than of ai
mircea_popescu: they both don't actually exist...
asciilifeform: games, it turned out, were worth something.
mircea_popescu: they're both predicated on entertainment...
mircea_popescu: why ?
asciilifeform: people apparently sometimes like to play games.
mircea_popescu: and people don't like intelligence ?
asciilifeform: games, it turned out, could be produced, in the short term, economically.
mircea_popescu: allegedly.
asciilifeform: ai was a little more like 'hot fusion'
asciilifeform: (specifically hot)
mircea_popescu: the relation between games as produced and games is about the same as the relation between intelligence as produced and intelligence
mircea_popescu: so no, ai wasn't special.
mircea_popescu: it is my considered belief that it was SPECIFICALLY the unwarranted delusion that ai is special that ruined it.
mircea_popescu: not because it wasn't done. but because the idiots doing it (yes, minsky and all) were idiots about the one thing that matters, which had little to do with their actual target.
mircea_popescu: basically, a video game producer's view of MIT AI lab is "hey, it was a field-sized Daikatana"
mircea_popescu: EXACTLY the same. "oh, we have money, oh, we're in it to get it right"
mircea_popescu: bla bla.
asciilifeform: what ruined, very mundanely, is that it was part of reagan's massively-distributed embezzlement thing, which came to an end 'like all good things'
asciilifeform: live by usg, die by usg
Namworld: What's the opinion in this room about living expenses? What's acceptable % of revenue wise, how much should it costs, what's important stuff and less important stuff.
mircea_popescu: o.O
Namworld: I somewhat have a preference for smaller living space, higher quality goods/food.
asciilifeform: Namworld: i for one have no idea, i've never lived yet
Namworld: I'm completely derailing the current topic, sorry
mircea_popescu: the best advice i can give is, if you're having the girls living separate, pair them up. much happier girls, cheaper.
Namworld: Well considering I don't have a harem... that's not really something I have on my mind.
mircea_popescu: you see what i mean. ☟︎
Namworld: More people in less space is cheaper and happier?
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: there is that rabi and goats story, but no. ☟︎
Namworld: I don't see what you mean then.
cazalla: Namworld, know the get a discount on your bills trick?
Namworld: I often hear living in the city as someone poor (minimum salary) is harsh. It always seemed a bit absurd to me. Minimum salary here is ~$1400 per month after taxes. CAD$10.55 per hour.
asciilifeform: Namworld: and what's the minimal rent there?
mircea_popescu: cazalla costanza's "no here kruger" ?
Namworld: 400-550
asciilifeform: for what? a cemetery plot ?
Namworld: For studio/1br apartments
mircea_popescu: alf's privileged.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, lulz no but for anyone else, retention staff often have better deals than pay on time ask no questions customers, so you port your electricity/gas to another provider, old provider comes back to you during cool down period and offers something better
cazalla: and as i've mentioned a few times before.. take a roll of toilet paper home from work each day
cazalla: and if you're really game, load up on top cuts from supermarkets but weigh them in the self-serve as carrots
asciilifeform: cazalla: take a roll of toilet paper home from work each day << top soviet state-of-art.
cazalla: nothing like sirloin at 99c a kg
mircea_popescu: cazalla i had an entire fucking lulz with the elec corp in romania. they wanted to give me a deal if i prepaid, so i prepaid for like a year. then the eu elec price explosion happened, and so they paid me to get out of the prepay deal. then prices went back down.
mircea_popescu: in the end i got however many free megawatts.
asciilifeform: l0l
Namworld: 99c a kilo? Never seen anything that cheap here.
Namworld: mircea_popescu ha!
mircea_popescu: but it was fully unintentional, they just kept running themselves into the wall
mircea_popescu: while i was nodding
mircea_popescu: noob energy futures traders, irl.
asciilifeform: they oughta have bought mpoe & dice
mircea_popescu: little do they know.
mircea_popescu: as hanbot sez, "the space to draw one's conclusion is big and fulla dragons."
Namworld: If only that... $420 rent here, split in 2 for a 1 bedroom. I'm installed in the living room/kitchen as if it was a studio. Roommate in room.
mircea_popescu: Namworld so send the roommate out to turn tricks ? should be 100 an hour at least.
Namworld: I'm no a pimp.
cazalla: you'd be better off using the spare rooms to grow dope than renting them out Namworld
mircea_popescu: why not ? they get kickass hats.
mircea_popescu: plus those platforms with live koi
mircea_popescu: cazalla nah, pink > green yo.
Namworld: Yeah, I wanted to, but I didn't have the hat.
hanbot: live *koi*?! how big are your feet, man?!
mircea_popescu: where's that butters instructional video...
mircea_popescu: do you know what i am saying!
cazalla: mircea_popescu, ya been watching too much breaking bad
mircea_popescu: hanbot as big as the penis, it's a rule.
mircea_popescu: anyway, maybe they were goldfish, i dunno.
mircea_popescu: IANAP
asciilifeform: unrelated - anybody read the magnetics links ?
asciilifeform: because it was brain-melting
Namworld: I have rent, electricity bill, food (good food and delivered at door), cellphone and Internet all fitting within ~$500, depending on food selection that month.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is now a quesadilla.
asciilifeform: approximately.
mircea_popescu: Namworld so then what's the bitch ? you're not seriously contemplating cutting out of that 500 are you ?
Namworld: No. Feels like I have everything I need. I'm just perplexed by people who don't have the excuse of kids struggling on minimum salary.
mircea_popescu: they probably smoke.
asciilifeform: Namworld: wait till you meet the folks struggling on maximal salary
asciilifeform: and everything in between
Namworld: asciilifeform, I'm pretty sure working with folks struggling on maximal salary is a masochistic endeavour.
Namworld: You have to enjoy headaches and/or brain aneurysm.
Namworld: mircea_popescu, not always. Even then, I don't see many smokers smoking enough to burn almost $1000 a month.
asciilifeform: Namworld: one way to 'smoke' 1000/mo. is to live in usa and pay it for 'health insurance'
mircea_popescu: what's a pack, $10 ?
mircea_popescu: 3 a day is perhaps a little much
mircea_popescu: http://digitalmoneytimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/shutterstock_120783400-300x199.jpg << anyone explain what the advertising-exec looking chick is doing in that pic ?
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1d0UYyj )
Namworld: I'm not even on minimum salary and could live 2x on it.
asciilifeform: Namworld: how much did your electron microscope cost ?
Namworld: This document from 2012 seems to say a carton of 200 smokes were ~$77
Namworld: So about $10 per pack, yeah
Namworld: electron microscope?
asciilifeform: let's rephrase
asciilifeform: there is 'live' and there is 'exist'
asciilifeform: so far, what has been described is 'exist'
asciilifeform: as one does in jail.
mircea_popescu: check it out! asciilifeform DOES get my original point!
mircea_popescu: Namworld, copy this man.
asciilifeform: which one? that jail is waiting?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132719 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 04:39:14; mircea_popescu: you see what i mean.
asciilifeform: aha.
Namworld: Oh... but what's the criterion to be considered living vs existing?
mircea_popescu: sometimes i think i'm too terse. then i look at the logs and shudder. what's a gal to do!
mircea_popescu: that's your job Namworld. can't be asking us. (there's even a rule about it!)
asciilifeform: Namworld: ask mirror ?
Namworld: I wouldn't consider myself to be merely existing. But it seems as such for you.
asciilifeform: Namworld: paul erdos, one of the greatest mathematical minds of his century, owned - a suitcase and suit.
asciilifeform: i dare say, he lived.
mircea_popescu: always the same one!
asciilifeform: of course same one
asciilifeform not erdos, but also owns precisely one suit
mircea_popescu is poor, does not even own his own pair of jeans.
asciilifeform: l0lz
Namworld: I feel much better having a small living space and more spare money than I can use than having a big place with only crap to put in it and struggling to afford anything but paying for a large living space.
mircea_popescu: lolz all you wish, but let me tell you something : to anyone i knew in the 80s, "you will never own your own pair of jeans" would have been possibly the worst conceivable curse.
asciilifeform: 'the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread' (TM) (R)
Namworld: You're trapped overpaying for a big space. That's the real prison. Small space, you're basically free to do whatever and have the luxury of free time with less stress.
mircea_popescu: except if the girls start fighting because they're crammed too close together.
asciilifeform: Namworld: where will you put electron microscope in small space?
cazalla: Namworld, even a small space cost you 30 years of your life here
asciilifeform: any idea how much room these need ?
mircea_popescu: i find the symmetry amusing.
asciilifeform: or the 3-phase mains
asciilifeform: you gonna get those in your 1-room flat ?
asciilifeform: can't even plug in a gantry mill
asciilifeform: w/out 3-phase
asciilifeform: srslt.
asciilifeform: *srsly
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in a time long ago i had a 3 phase washing machine.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l! for elephant ?
mircea_popescu: for 50-75 kgs dry.
cazalla: anyway, i thought all you old school bitcoiners were rich as fuck
asciilifeform: cazalla: who is 'you'
asciilifeform: cazalla: i own - my shirt.
mircea_popescu: anyone older than him :D
cazalla: ha yeah pretty much that ^^^
Namworld: Admittedly, if I wanted to use any of these equipments, I'd just study the field and get the funds and lab assigned to me.
asciilifeform: Namworld: l0l of the century
asciilifeform: what was it herr hitler supposedly said, 'any man who likes to shoot guns ought to join the ss' ? ☟︎
Namworld: Space is a concern only when you need it. You don't buy a large warehouse building without any plans on how to use it/put it to work.
mircea_popescu: i do, actually.
mircea_popescu: only time i ever bought such a thing was off the auction block. had no use for it, but fuck. dat price.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: still have it ?
mircea_popescu: nah
mircea_popescu: lol, why do you ask ?
asciilifeform: idk
asciilifeform: pogos?
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: would have been great for mining, because metal structure, unheated by default.
mircea_popescu: but was sadly many years ago
asciilifeform: great for many things.
mircea_popescu: anyway, pogos should be geographically distributtsexed.
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: so for folks who don't read links, u.s. folk were most of the way to fabricating microscale magnetic circuits, when ic was discovered and entire field evaporated
asciilifeform: some work continued for rad-hard/far-space applications, but nothing public came of it
asciilifeform: the only magnetic circuit item that remained in use, for a while, was ferrite ram
asciilifeform: (and, in past few years, a kind of reborn version of it, 'mram')
asciilifeform: but certainly no -logic-.
mircea_popescu: actually afaik the one thing that came out of that field was magnetic bottles, years latr.
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asciilifeform: magnetic bottles were iirc saharov's idea
mircea_popescu: yeah
asciilifeform: and long pre-date all of this
mircea_popescu: oh ?
asciilifeform: aha.
Namworld: Haven't been around in a while, but from lurking every now and then, seems it's a bit slow for assets. There's no longer talk about assets/tons of trade tickers.
asciilifeform: Namworld: i broke it
Namworld: Seems most regulars are still there talking at least.
asciilifeform: or wait, where is 'there'
mircea_popescu: how long can it all predate it ? sakharov is contemporary with feynman not with bohr
asciilifeform: pre-dated 'bubble ram' etc.
asciilifeform: but i'm not entirely clear on how 'magnetic bottle' for keeping charged particules penned in, relates to magnetic logic
mircea_popescu: "magnetics"
asciilifeform: then faraday also.
mircea_popescu: it's not really big enough to have subfields yet.
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform wonders what then -is- big enough
mircea_popescu: feminism > magnetism.
Namworld: Well, this is what living on ~$500 of bills per month looks like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvW1M9QfDfQ
assbot: Apartment - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1KQfFaC )
hanbot: is Namworld soft-launching a life coaching business?
Namworld: Apparently. Seems by most people's standards, they'd be driven nut by the small space. The space with workdesk/bed/dresser is 5x10 foot
hanbot: all it needs is atomics, could be submarine.
Namworld: I didn't consider such a thing. I guess I'd feel confortable even in a submarine/ship.
cazalla: Namworld, get rid of the cat, savings right there not to mention A+ for no animals living in the house
Namworld: But I like the cat...
cazalla: most of the people in here like cats + smokes
hanbot: confucious sez, cat can save you a meal...
Namworld: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2n4YynyTC0
assbot: Cat in the Sleeve Hammock - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IEqfCM )
Namworld: He's tricked me with his cuteness and affective disorder. He's clingy.
cazalla: meh i hate em, they kill a lot of the natives around here
Namworld: Kill?
Namworld: Natives?
cazalla: local bird life for a start
Namworld: Well people shouldn't let cats out to hunt...
cazalla: plus there is the toxoplasmosis thing
Namworld: No point in having a cat if he's away all day. It's just not doing anything but costing you and being a nuisance to people around.
cazalla: anyway, be a man and get a dog
scoopbot_revived: A lunatic with a bloodied axe could be ringing at your door! http://trilema.com/2015/a-lunatic-with-a-bloodied-axe-could-be-ringing-at-your-door/
Namworld: Well my cat can play tag, comes at the door running to greet you and gives his paw. I could probably teach him to fetch.
Namworld: It might be a dog that is disfigured and has bad vocal cords. Might just happen to look like a cat.
Namworld: The convenience of owning a cat and a dog in one, with all the disadvantages and not quite all the benefits.
cazalla: but if you're trying to save money, perhaps just eat the cat and reduce not only the cost of feeding it but save extra on a meal or two for yourself
Namworld: I'm not trying to save money.
cazalla: i'd bet a cat or dog costs about the same to feed a toddler
cazalla: my bad then, i assumed your interest in reducing living expenses was so that you could save a bit extra
Namworld: I'm sure a toddler is more expensive... Cat is like a $20 bag of food for like 2-3 months. And like ~$15 of litter for the same period. So about 10-15 bucks per month.
cazalla: shot myself in the foot with that one.. if i had said baby though, breast milk being somewhat free and all
Namworld: I'm not trying to save, I'm going to be upgrading living expenses by $200 per month and have my own bedroom. In a better location nearer downtown in a bigger and better apartment.
Namworld: It just happened that I ended up with $500 in bills per month, without any effort on my part whatsoever.
Namworld: I'll be living slightly more expensively within 2 months.
Namworld: I was just perplexed by single people with no children struggling with minimum salary, which is ~$1400 after taxes. ☟︎
cazalla: no doubt they piss a lot of it away but i don't think they are entirely to blame for being on struggle street
Namworld: It's something that's agreed on by many that you can hardly live on minimum salary. It just feels weird to me. By any sort of standards, it seems minimum salary here is luxury compared to almost everything else.
cazalla: we have a high minimum wage here (down under) but people still struggle on account of insane cost of living so can't really blame people for indulging a little, not like it's worth their time to save a deposit for a house anyway
Namworld: Even by US standards. Perhaps not by EU standards.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [04:53] unrelated - anybody read the magnetics links ? << wrapping my head around the microwaves, actually
Namworld: Cost of rent especially, since it tends to be a big part of budget. Wouldn't want to have to pay rent in San Francisco.
Namworld: Some cities are expensive...
Namworld: ok, it's past 2am, I guess I'll log off for now. Getting empty in here. I'm off-topic for the channel too. Shouldn't be rambling late at night. I'll turn senile early.
ben_vulpes: <Namworld> [05:06] I feel much better having a small living space and more << i miss lathes and mills and welders
ben_vulpes: i could buy a mini cnc mill and make custom leather embossing dies
cazalla: i can't articulate it well but i'm sure i've read alf mention it before that it's part of the bezzle.. have you work and paid just enough to cover bills but never enough that you could be free of it within your life time, at least until you're washed up and old
Namworld: Alf?
cazalla: asciilifeform soz
Namworld: Ah
cazalla: plus this idea of down sizing just helps them fit more people in
cazalla: you end up paying more for less
ben_vulpes: that is true enough
punkman: just enough to cover bills < not even that around here
ben_vulpes: the house i grew up in might retail for ~3x what my parents paid for it, and far more than i'll ever sock away in my lifetime ☟︎
Namworld: I feel if you stop bothering about what people think, fitting social expectations, outperforming your neighbors or any such thing. At least in certain places. I suppose it depends on real estate prices.
cazalla: ben_vulpes, comparable homes in my area are going for 600k, supposedly worth so much more than what my grand parents paid for their massive acre blocks back in the day where they were able to raise lots of kids on one wage yet i'm supposed to believe you're average australian couple who both work and pay for someone else to raise the 1 kid have it better because the total lack of land and bricks is worth $$$ ☟︎☟︎
cazalla: your average even
Namworld: The lack of land and bricks is worth a lot of dough. You could be paying a lot of dough at any big corp for fees and terrible services. Inconvenience is costly. What better investment than a overpriced house so you can live inconvenience every day of your life? You save a lot of money that way.
mircea_popescu: right. so if you pick up a girl what do you do, take her to a motel ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, hanbot has a point : join a fishing ship / oil rig / something. they'll pay you 5k a month to live in a 50 sq ft space, ☟︎
mircea_popescu: instead of youy having to pay 500
Namworld: Well, the living space might not bother me, but the inconvenient is you have to do fishing or oil drilling or so on work.
mircea_popescu: or cook, or w/e.
cazalla: Namworld, he's talking about working for a living, he's talking about sharkin'
Namworld: Well cook might be more in my cords. But doing it all day? Seems a bit mind numbing.
mircea_popescu: http://litecoin.org.es/bitcoin-y-el-estado-benefactor/ << o.O
assbot: Bitcoin y el “Estado benefactor” | Litecoin España ... ( http://bit.ly/1JMmrOn )
mircea_popescu: Namworld so do it for six months, take a year or two off.
cazalla: Namworld, shitty job (i did like an unpaid 16 hour shift many years ago)
Namworld: Always an option. Something to try out.
punkman: science boat pays a bit less but still quite well
cazalla: didn't bother coming back for the actual job, working in a kitchen sucks
Namworld: Well I'm off for real this time.
Namworld: Goodbye
trinque: installing openvas on gentoo with the latest ebuild ends up forcing you to use an old gnutls version
trinque: the irony
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wyrdmantis: hello everyone
wyrdmantis: ;;nethash
gribble: 368694095.451
mircea_popescu: heya
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mircea_popescu: http://deepfreeze.it/journo.php << o hey, check it out, a db of fucktards
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mircea_popescu: http://8ch.net/player.php?v=/pol/src/1431529008621.webm&t=Emilybloom.webm&loop=1 << ha!
cazalla: mircea_popescu, gee you really took the grainy gif insult to heart :P
mircea_popescu: i love that vid.
mircea_popescu: fucking bs tv. THAT is what it's supposed to look like.
cazalla: lose points for mole on the vulva though
mircea_popescu: i'm not watching any more videos until they conform.
mircea_popescu: i don't care how it looks. the point is that it's there, none of this "o, she just took the beadspread to the bathroom" bs.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck even does that.
cazalla: what? check for vulva moles?
mircea_popescu: no, takes the breadspread ot the bathroom.
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cazalla: lol yeah was just joshing
cazalla: still, vulva moles.. the lack of vulva symmetry doesn't phase, nice that they all come in different shapes and sizes but.. moley mole
mircea_popescu: so what of it ?
cazalla: can't say i'm a fan.. might try to touch it in a subtle manner to ensure it is a mole lest someone didn't teach the poor girl how to wipe
mircea_popescu: can prolly have it burned off if you give a shit.
mircea_popescu never got to quite that level of detail specificity.
cazalla: probably has to pluck big ass mole hairs from it too
mircea_popescu: yo cazalla, if i give you some candy are you gonna go all junkie and forget your duties to land and king ?
cazalla: why would you be giving me that
cazalla: but yes, so i don't eat it
cazalla: what triggered that, mole talk?
mircea_popescu: nah. https://8ch.net/btc
cazalla: blank page?
cazalla: had some faucet stuff but that's gone after refresh
mircea_popescu: yeh.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/fain_visuals_1600px.png << heh, ancient wot-like stuff from my romanian digg thing
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/globosfera-vizibila/ article about it
cazalla: reads like spirography with translate
cazalla: http://dpaste.com/073BPMY.txt
mircea_popescu: basically it connects users with the other users whose things they voted
cazalla: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-15/pm-confirms-b-1-bombers-not-heading-to-australia/6471528
mircea_popescu: eh ?
cazalla: how the US misspoke about sending bombers and drones over here to watch the chinese with is puzzling
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mircea_popescu: heh
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cazalla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwuR3MvZ6xM
cazalla: i wonder if they deliberately make errors so that many people watch to point them out to one another
mircea_popescu: if they do it failed cuz i dont give a shit >D
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mircea_popescu: "So as you can probably tell, this board is primarily dedicated to IRL Harems, how to build one, and crucially, how to do so with minimal effort even if NEET and without money.
mircea_popescu: A secondary area of interest is how to leverage your Harem to make $$$ and/or how to find a rich girl/woman to marry.
mircea_popescu: Let the intelligent discussion commence"
mircea_popescu: https://8ch.net/harem/index.html
mircea_popescu: clearly, the millennials are on to someshit.
cazalla: sounds great until i gave it a bit more thought and considered the cost and work involved
cazalla: harem on welfare though, sounds like baseless advice ☟︎
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mircea_popescu: at least in the republican fears, harem on welfare = inner city blacks.
mircea_popescu: it's not THAT far off from the truth
cazalla: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/business/decoding-the-enigma-of-satoshi-nakamoto-and-the-birth-of-bitcoin.html interesting article on Szabo
mats: http://blazepress.com/2015/05/27-powerful-images-that-sum-up-how-smartphones-are-ruining-our-lives/
wyrdmantis: LULZ https://youtu.be/xuWlOhP36LY
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1133005 << eagerly awaiting 'electron microscope on welfare' article ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 10:11:19; cazalla: harem on welfare though, sounds like baseless advice
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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132555 << had the thought, that a 'future pgp' could easily include a feature for key agglomeration - where an old key remains in continuous use when upgraded with new one, whereby signatures actually include both side-by-side at all times, while enciphering takes them in turn. thus, you get the added key length (and fresh keymat) from new key, while demonstrating that you are th ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 03:36:01; mircea_popescu: it's no such proof. it's proof that you are willing to allow the holder of key y to continue in your stead.
asciilifeform: e owner of all key with every use.
asciilifeform: *of old key
punkman: asciilifeform: << eagerly awaiting 'electron microscope on welfare' article << i think that's called university
asciilifeform: punkman: again, very much no!
asciilifeform: punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132833 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 05:14:10; asciilifeform: what was it herr hitler supposedly said, 'any man who likes to shoot guns ought to join the ss' ?
asciilifeform: do you understand the difference between owning your own kalash and serving in ru army ?
asciilifeform: folks fixated on hardware often do not.
asciilifeform: don't be fixated on hardware.
punkman: I concede that point, yes
punkman: I do remember a fellow that made a crude DIY electron microscope though
asciilifeform: punkman: you are almost certainly thinking of the atomic force microscope made with piezos
asciilifeform: idiot newspapers billed it as 'electron'
punkman: this one http://benkrasnow.blogspot.gr/2011/03/diy-scanning-electron-microscope.html
asciilifeform: (whereas it is merely a very small 'gramophone')
punkman: not familiar with such equipment
asciilifeform: that one looks genuine.
asciilifeform: however, it (like the proverbial linux) is 'free if your time has no value.'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132926 << one of the mantras my parents liked to repeat to me was 'in ussr no one owned their home' - mega-l0l, no? ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 06:28:58; ben_vulpes: the house i grew up in might retail for ~3x what my parents paid for it, and far more than i'll ever sock away in my lifetime
asciilifeform: in practice, quite the reverse.
asciilifeform: want to know what you 'own' in usa? try and stop paying the property tax. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132932 << could even save enough for a decent funeral, on that ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 06:38:28; mircea_popescu: anyway, hanbot has a point : join a fishing ship / oil rig / something. they'll pay you 5k a month to live in a 50 sq ft space,
punkman: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hitachi-S-2400-Scanning-Electron-Microscope/221729755269 that's a lot less expensive than I imagined
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132907 << again, in usa, this wage would disqualify you for any usg payola for 'the poor' while putting you precisely one medical or legal bill away from life-long debt, jail, or graveyard ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 06:13:52; Namworld: I was just perplexed by single people with no children struggling with minimum salary, which is ~$1400 after taxes.
asciilifeform: punkman: not far from where i live, one of those things sold (surplus) for 1k or so.
asciilifeform: punkman: but you also must include the cost of transport (even across the street - not cheap!), 3phase mains, and climate-controlled floor to park it on.
asciilifeform: i lacked the last two items and so did not buy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42963 @ 0.00028806 = 12.3759 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132928 << and not remotely close to all the fat has been trimmed, even. within your lifetime, a house (even miniature house) occupied by just one family will become unspeakable luxury, as the sovietization continues ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 06:31:28; cazalla: ben_vulpes, comparable homes in my area are going for 600k, supposedly worth so much more than what my grand parents paid for their massive acre blocks back in the day where they were able to raise lots of kids on one wage yet i'm supposed to believe you're average australian couple who both work and pay for someone else to raise the 1 kid have it better because the total lack of land and bricks is worth $$
decimation: asciilifeform: I did look through the magnetic amplifiers book. It sounds difficult to fabricate tiny transformers on ferric cores
decimation: but I do like the idea of using magnetic flux for computation rather than electric flux
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 174350 @ 0.00028806 = 50.2233 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11112 @ 0.0002874 = 3.1936 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96850 @ 0.00028712 = 27.8076 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64900 @ 0.0002882 = 18.7042 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102800 @ 0.00028131 = 28.9187 BTC [-]
Naphex: Pierre_Rochard: nice kick on that bucket with gavin :))
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21150 @ 0.00028828 = 6.0971 BTC [+]
mats: http://moflow.org/Presentations/Taint%20Nobody%20Got%20Time%20for%20Crash%20Analysis%20-%20slides.pdf
mats: rich has other good stuff on his site if you're into low level exploitation ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40900 @ 0.00028306 = 11.5772 BTC [-]
punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=212Amp_s3v8
whaack: So I'm working on building a system where people who I allow can spend BTC on credit. They would have the ability to spend my BTC just for having a good trust rating with me, and the business would be about improving the way I set the trust rating / payment limits etc. so that the fees I take in for the service outweigh the losses I have to eat
whaack: Has anyone tried something similar or know of someone who has? ☟︎
chetty: people have certainly sold BTC via things like paypal, doesn't seem much different
whaack: I'm not sure how that's similar, in this system we would be blind to any interaction with fiat institutions
joecool: whaack: people have done it in #bitcoin-otc
joecool: but there's a bit of a prevailing 'motto' in the channel now: "loans are a gift"
whaack: Our customers would have a debt to settle in btc, if they can't settle it they get kicked out of the trust network.
whaack: joecool: yeah this system starts with giving the customer a gift, the point is to make sure that the people we give gifts are the kinda people who give gifts back
joecool: whaack: plz see the long list of people who have been kicked out of the "trust network" in -otc
joecool: my favorite example from there is aethero... he was king of the $10 paypal trade, built up his trust and then took out ~$100k USD equiv in btc loans from everyone in -otc and btcjam...
joecool: after which he promptly fell of the face of the earth ☟︎
joecool: s/of/off/
whaack: joecool: No doubt that kinda thing is expected to happen, and that's a sad story, but the point is that that kinda thing is expected to happen and you just gotta design a better risk rating system
joecool: o rly
joecool: whaack: design the "bitcoin credit report"
whaack: yup, pretty much
joecool: i will say WoT works fantastically well most of the time for trade
joecool: ;;ident whaack
gribble: Nick 'whaack', with hostmask 'whaack!4a48d33f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.', is not identified.
joecool: ;;gpg info whaack
gribble: User 'whaack', with keyid 54D96EEE73C04299, fingerprint D1D04E15A322737EEE1BDA13D344A7036FE8E4D6, and bitcoin address None, registered on Mon Feb 9 23:36:17 2015, last authed on Mon Feb 9 23:36:17 2015. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=whaack . Currently not authenticated.
whaack: hmm
whaack: my fingerprint is 6326 273B 61A7 00AF 4CD9 5A7B 8C6C AB19 24A6 4DEC
joecool: not according to that?
whaack: http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/whaack/
joecool: mine looks cooler http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/joecool/
joecool: ;;gpg info joecool
gribble: User 'joecool', with keyid 4A169504F495E1D1, fingerprint D7570DDF7F8527E085A6CBA44A169504F495E1D1, and bitcoin address 1JoecooLw8qohGrFrmhCcPN6Gw355FjxBc, registered on Thu Apr 28 01:50:04 2011, last authed on Fri May 15 13:07:38 2015. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=joecool . Currently authenticated from hostmask joecool!~joecool@no-sources/joecool .
whaack: lol gotta start somewhere
whaack: !h
assbot: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99700 @ 0.00028846 = 28.7595 BTC [+] {2}
joecool: whaack: i'm not sure how those fingerprints work, but the way gribble does it is different than assbot
trinque: !gettrust joecool
assbot: Trust relationship from user trinque to user joecool: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=trinque&to=joecool | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/joecool/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96500 @ 0.00028864 = 27.8538 BTC [+]
trinque: joecool: moral there is that 10 trades shouldn't build enough trust in a person that they can take out 100k :p
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://cryptome.org/2015/05/doug-williams-guilty-plea.pdf << mega-l0l. i, for one, have never seen the 'plead guilty' form, and it is lulzy ☟︎
Namworld: I'm scared. I just visited the forum for the first time in a long time...
Namworld: The quality of posts seems to have dropped even further. No one seems to understand or have a clue about anything Bitcoin.
trinque: Namworld: like any gutter on a public street
trinque: the shit accumulates
trinque: ascii_field: are you aware that you have agreed to no less than 10 inches of veiny cock shoved up your ass? y / n
trinque: there's a real perversity to this; they must like all the procedure around it
trinque imagines all of american bureaucracy is filled with people who can't cum unless a few hundred forms are filed
chetty: lmao, no I didnt make a plea deal (those are not legal after all) and if I lied on this form I am guilty of perjury, they get you no matterwhat.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66050 @ 0.0002833 = 18.712 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81738 @ 0.00028306 = 23.1368 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: "i am medicated for schizophrenia and what is dog"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19463 @ 0.00028306 = 5.5092 BTC [-]
jurov: TIL some cats have affective disorder?
Namworld: Hey jurov
Namworld: I don't know about that... but he kinds of act like it.
jurov: Hey. I prefer human pets with bipolar affective disorder
jurov: even live with one... in a flat not any bigger than yours
Namworld: Will start destroying/chewing stuff if I'm not home for for more than a day. Kind like a dog, but you don't see that behavior often in cats.
trinque: Namworld: an indoor cat I bet
jurov: it's normal for indoor cats, only after more days
trinque: he's just bored
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 189617 @ 0.00028407 = 53.8645 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: and discussing burn rate here...i won't dare
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73583 @ 0.00028873 = 21.2456 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: i always feel that am spending more than i can afford
jurov: then some obsure project or investment succeeds and all is allright
Namworld: Yes, but he goes to door when it rings/greets you. He's also persistant for attention.
trinque: cats are by nature murderous little bastards that need to climb trees and draw blood to be happy
trinque: barring that, does yours have something to climb inside?
Namworld: He climbs into cloths, although he's not a kitten anymore.
trinque: but they don't actually behave normally imo unless they live mostly outside
Namworld: Well he climbs up on fridge to watch birds outside and generally on just about anything.
Namworld: The city isn't a nice place for cats to be outside.
jurov: yup, give him something own to climb on
trinque: ^
Namworld: I'll have a big thing for him when I move in a month and a half. Not much space.
Namworld: He seems to prefer sleeping on top of fridge/whatever is very high. Or on me/around me.
Namworld: He often lays just over my shoulder on the dresser
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60941 @ 0.0002789 = 16.9964 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/causes-and-purposes/#comment-114187 << which reminds me, davout do you know who the most famous guy by that name was ?
BingoBoingo: http://www.wnba.com/news/statement_on_griner_johnson_2015_05_15.html
trinque: hilarious, the city's named after the company Goodyear
mod6: they grow a lot of cotton out there.
davout: mircea_popescu: tell me
mircea_popescu: napoleon's general that won the battle of jena for the confused four footer's name was davout.
mircea_popescu: ;;google Louis Nicolas Davout
gribble: Louis-Nicolas Davout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis-Nicolas_Davout>; Davout & Napoleon - The Napoleon Series: <http://www.napoleon-series.org/ins/scholarship97/c_davout.html>; Ask MHQ: Why Wasn't Davout at Waterloo? - History Net: <http://www.historynet.com/davout-at-waterloo.htm>
davout: ah right, i knew this guy's name, but not his story
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37208 @ 0.00027684 = 10.3007 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: in other news http://36.media.tumblr.com/cd2581c62617b5a509994b1e6cd4c4dd/tumblr_nbetwj6JLL1t0bn4lo1_1280.jpg : WOMENZ! WHAY U SO SHORT!
davout: "He was one of the few commanders in history to never be defeated on the field." <<< yea, sounds about right!
mircea_popescu: lol.
mircea_popescu: then again, he didn'y use rails.
davout: :D
davout: i'm pretty busy learning C these days
davout: 'At Jena, Napoleon won a battle he could not lose. At Auerstädt, Davout won a battle he could not win".'
davout: allright
ben_vulpes: "the fun, simple, flexible JavaScript test framework"
ben_vulpes: programming is none of those things, why are you lying to me
fluffypony: "60% of the time it works every time"
williamdunne: Flexible could have a solid case
ben_vulpes: i haven't even visited your web page and already you've lost all credibility with me.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: snobol on slugs.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony has it.
jurov: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/15/us-forex-rigging-pleas-idUSKBN0NZ2FZ20150515 lol what a clusterfuck
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, fluffypony, your racks buildin business still active ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yep it is
mircea_popescu: jurov you got a 728x90 coinbr banner ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony wanna advertise on 8chan ? :D
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: not selling much to consumers anymore, got 1x big fat contract that's still got 17 months on it
fluffypony: ben_vulpes: just switch to this: http://html9responsiveboilerstrapjs.com
mircea_popescu: and yeah, re jurov's link : totally, getting "regulated" would deeply benefit bitcoin. it's not like MPEx being put in charge of the US financial markets would be a marked improvement for the us financial markets. o no, it's the other way around dontcha know.
ben_vulpes: fluffypony: i just broke out laughing
williamdunne: v0.0001 came with a load of code breaking changes, don't think it will be stable until v0.000115
fluffypony: "It works in RubeGoldberg 2.2 but will not autocompile freeway buttmonkey merge svn commitshare javahunk."
trinque: >Does a bear have regular bowel movements in the cool breeze of a grassy woodland area?
fluffypony: I've actually used that line when responding to a Ruby developer on Skype who was being dumb
trinque: LOL
joecool: check view source
jurov: no, only 248x50, gotta make one...and can I also push coinroll banner?
trinque: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/impressivewebs/HTML9-Responsive-Boilerstrap-js/master/js/html9responsiveboilerstrap.js
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 3.52635256 BTC to 10`000`000 shares, 35 satoshi per share
fluffypony: the commits are awesome
fluffypony: https://github.com/impressivewebs/HTML9-Responsive-Boilerstrap-js/commits/master
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/impressivewebs/HTML9-Responsive-Boilerstrap-js/commit/123e170590a5743d5358486c608096675da7be01
mircea_popescu: !up deedbot-
fluffypony: "There's a known bug with the IE5 bootloader that's preventing multi-threaded access to the cloud partition. Workaround is to enable JSON override mode and recompile the WSDL. Once you've done that, just deploy the __kernelNode binary to the socket listener, restart the Flash daemon and refresh your browser. That should take care of the error. I know, kind of an annoying hack, but it seems to work."
mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3N8RHH7.txt
fluffypony: "@dmansouri, it worked! THANKSS!!!!!! but now I've lost support for the color blue. :/"
deedbot-: accepted: 1
trinque: mircea_popescu: no need, or shouldn't be
mircea_popescu: jurov sure.
jurov: what are the terms?
mircea_popescu: ahjahaha COLOR BLUE!
mircea_popescu: jurov the terms are that you just get it, for now.
jurov: ok, thanks
mircea_popescu: that thing with the color blue really brings back memories.
mircea_popescu: as a poor chitlin in romania, i was stuck on a monitor that was losing yellow for months
williamdunne: >If you've just had a baby, try to refrain from referring to the event as a "new product launch".
williamdunne: << their twitter page is pretty good too https://twitter.com/H9RBSjs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 263.41331311 BTC to 1`000`000`000 shares, 26 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/2MQECVB.txt
deedbot-: accepted: 1
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i was stuck on a monitor that was losing yellow for months << l0l! i just picked up a sealed, virginal sony 21" trinitron...
mircea_popescu: ascii_field o.O
davout: https://twitter.com/H9RBSjs/status/598514438354903041
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 225829 @ 0.0002857 = 64.5193 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: i am slightly jealous
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: fella has more
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: if you have a phriend with 'ebay' acct.
mircea_popescu: how the heck ?!
ascii_field: no idea how
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21171 @ 0.00028923 = 6.1233 BTC [+]
ascii_field: 1600x1200 at 90+ Hz
ascii_field: optically flat, even.
williamdunne: BitOtter - The Bitcoin Options Trade Tool for MPEx
williamdunne: Options coming back?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1133041 << the lol-ziest part is that upon collapse, inhabitants "bought" them from govt, making an eastern europe much socially richer than anyone else in the world. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 14:19:08; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132926 << one of the mantras my parents liked to repeat to me was 'in ussr no one owned their home' - mega-l0l, no?
mircea_popescu: at some point it was > 90% home ownership
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: didn't last long in ru
mircea_popescu: williamdunne i think that's just very old.
ascii_field: folks sold for 'pennies on the dollar' so they could eat.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field lasted ~15-20 years n ro
mircea_popescu: at some point there was a bank on every corner FOR THIS REASON
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Ah, I assumed its new as just saw on twitter for the first time
mircea_popescu: derps didn't understand they were i nthe business of sorting out their home ownership
ascii_field: in ru they did a thing called 'shock therapy' - engineered economic rape to dislodge the 'owners'
ascii_field: see also: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-04-2015#1090204 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 00:10:01; mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road.
ascii_field: it was a classic, textbook demo of 'money without power'
ascii_field: which is not a stable condition, to put it mildly
mircea_popescu: bout as stable as gasolin
ascii_field: aha.
mircea_popescu: someone somewhere's gonna wanna power something.
ascii_field: i can easily picture a similar opera playing out in usa, after clitler or whoever proclaims a mortgage jubilee, creating 100mil derps who are suddenly 'millionaires'
mircea_popescu: incidentally, that would be the correct way to handle the us collapse.
ascii_field: the meat is then harvested as per ru.
mircea_popescu: since the govt is fucked anyway, just import all the bank balances on ITS books,
mircea_popescu: then give all the actual real value to people
mircea_popescu: then die.
mircea_popescu: it's how the greek's do it. its how ex soviet empire did it.
mircea_popescu: it's the right way to do this.
mircea_popescu: definitely NOT the way the us will do it, for that reason.
trinque: they'll instead do some incomprehensible refinancing thing where nobody wins
ascii_field: pointing out that in su case this resulted in a very brutal dekulakization ('but at least it wasn't the state doing it')
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1133044 << amusingly, one of the things in the 2000s romania was, nobody was paying property tax because fuck you ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 14:19:53; asciilifeform: want to know what you 'own' in usa? try and stop paying the property tax.
mircea_popescu: govt powerless. but then, peoplidiots wanted into the eu.
mircea_popescu: govt now not powerless.
ascii_field: what was eu even for if not for this
mircea_popescu: myeah
mircea_popescu: but the derps really really wanted it.
mircea_popescu: heck, to protect them from russia.
mircea_popescu: because yeah, totally, the western allies of romania so very protected it from russia historically.
mircea_popescu: ww1, ww2, whatevs. but what do the derps know.
ascii_field: l0l
BingoBoingo: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/05/11/it-legitimate-pedagogical-tool-art-professor-ask-students-be-nude-one-class
mircea_popescu: win.
mircea_popescu: this should have been done long ago. mandatory nudity throughout highschool.
mircea_popescu: us kids don't fuck anymore anyway.
ascii_field: not quite accurate
ascii_field: they don't want to do the necessary chores
mircea_popescu: "The nude self gesture takes place in complete darkness, and everyone is nude, with only one candle or very small source of light for each individual performance. Each student can select where everyone will be during the performance and where the performance will take in the performance studio -- just as they are able to do for all the performances they do.
mircea_popescu: scam.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1133066 << just hate teh pdfs. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 16:28:13; mats: rich has other good stuff on his site if you're into low level exploitation
mircea_popescu: rich should learn to web.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1133070 << can't tell if serious or 3/0 trolling. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 16:55:18; whaack: Has anyone tried something similar or know of someone who has?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 196350 @ 0.00028938 = 56.8198 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1133079 << yeah, never mentioned much somehow, also. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 17:10:52; joecool: after which he promptly fell of the face of the earth
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1133107 << the mere fact that it's a form... ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 17:58:47; ascii_field: http://cryptome.org/2015/05/doug-williams-guilty-plea.pdf << mega-l0l. i, for one, have never seen the 'plead guilty' form, and it is lulzy
ben_vulpes: http://dpaste.com/2E6ZR0C << nodejs at work
ben_vulpes: liars.
ben_vulpes: mother. fucking. liars.
williamdunne: node makes me cry
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://trilema.com/2009/fumez/#comment-114192 << l0l! how come -i- don't get ru spam ?!
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/05/market-news-roundup/
BingoBoingo: !up pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: thx bb!
pete_dushenski: on vacay on public wifi atm, but i snuck in some time to organise the '21' convo from the other day into a post.
jurov: ;;ticker --currency eur
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 237.03, Best ask: 237.1, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 237.1, 24 hour volume: 9075.62309001, 24 hour low: 235.8, 24 hour high: 239.0, 24 hour vwap: None
pete_dushenski: only to discover that scoopy is sleepy
pete_dushenski: so... http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/15/21-inc-and-comcast-sitting-in-a-tree-d-e-r-p-i-n-g/
trinque: do I have to install the damn tenyks-feeds plugin too :P
pete_dushenski: also, 50 btc mpex seats ! wawaweewah!
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeOwMcRO2pU
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIDHFbjQ93A << english
pete_dushenski: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 356604 | Current Difficulty: 4.7643398017803444E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 356831 | Next Difficulty In: 227 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 11 hours, 8 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 48725175240.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.27057
pete_dushenski alrighty, the town beckons. cheers!
jurov: http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22[S.BBET]+[PAID]%22
assbot: 15 results for '"[S.BBET] [PAID]"' - #bitcoin-assets search
jurov: kakobrekla mircea_popescu: additional 5mn shares was floated?
trinque: deedbot-: list feeds
deedbot-: No feeds.
trinque: alright I've got an RSS thing now too
kakobrekla: jurov lol, my guess is mp fucked up again.
kakobrekla: but hey, at least is not 30mio
jurov: http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22[S.MPOE]+[PAID]%22 same thing
assbot: 25 results for '"[S.MPOE] [PAID]"' - #bitcoin-assets search
kakobrekla: dunno
jurov: previously he paid half of profit to half of the shares
jurov: this looks like full profit to full shares, so the outcome is correct
trinque: deedbot-: add feed http://trilema.com/feed/
deedbot-: http://trilema.com/feed/ is a go!
trinque: deedbot-: add feed http://contravex.com/feed/
deedbot-: http://contravex.com/feed/ is a go!
jurov: i'm looking forward to eulora dividend fuckups, cuz number of shares will actually change as warrants are placed
trinque: what else should go in there?
trinque: and if scoopbot comes back, I'll turn it off.
deedbot-: [Trilema] A lunatic with a bloodied axe could be ringing at your door! - http://trilema.com/2015/a-lunatic-with-a-bloodied-axe-could-be-ringing-at-your-door/
deedbot-: [Trilema] New MPEx fee - http://trilema.com/2015/new-mpex-fee/
deedbot-: [Trilema] Nature vie avec jeune fille - http://trilema.com/2015/nature-vie-avec-jeune-fille/
deedbot-: [Trilema] The Fetlife Meatlist - Volume XI - http://trilema.com/2015/the-fetlife-meatlist-volume-xi/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105600 @ 0.00027633 = 29.1804 BTC [-] {2}
deedbot-: [Trilema] In which Orwell avoids what he does not wish to see - http://trilema.com/2015/in-which-orwell-avoids-what-he-does-not-wish-to-see/
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] 21 Inc. and Comcast sitting in a tree, d-e-r-p-i-n-g. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/15/21-inc-and-comcast-sitting-in-a-tree-d-e-r-p-i-n-g/
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Tips and tricks for being a successful (small time) landlord. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/13/tips-and-tricks-for-being-a-successful-small-time-landlord/
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Anyone have a single Elbrus ARM-401 for sale? Mebbe a 4.4 Server? It’s for the children. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/12/anyone-have-a-single-elbrus-arm-401-for-sale-mebbe-a-4-4-server-its-for-the-children/
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Why did blacks stop caring about respectability and acceptability in USistan ? Because there’s none to be had. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/10/why-did-blacks-stop-caring-about-respectability-and-acceptability-in-usistan-because-theres-none-to-be-had/
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Austin Powers : International Man of Mystery - http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/10/austin-powers-international-man-of-mystery/
trinque: sorry bout that; that should be the last time it does that.
jurov: rss aggregator to end all aggregators
davout: amazing
davout: phew
trinque: jurov: I can actually have the thing poke assbot for the shasum of the wot list
trinque: so I'll actually verify the thing
jurov: oh yes, since you have access to irc
davout: IRC auth is best auth
jurov: ready
trinque: jurov: deedbot- is happily munching on those pubkeys, thanks
trinque: hm, it might be useful to deed-ify the list of key fingerprints periodically
jurov: kako refused to sign it
trinque: jurov: try your thing again
jurov: deedbot-: http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201504.txt.asc
deedbot-: accepted: 1
jurov: yup
trinque: fancy
jurov: deedbot-: http://explo.yt/public/btcf_201504.txt.asc
deedbot-: Bad URL or network outage.
ben_vulpes: .txt
ben_vulpes: ?
trinque: lol why does it hate that one
trinque: hah!
jurov: no it was sent to btc-dev instead
trinque: jurov: last one's a 404; he was being honest
jurov: http://ml.therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000087.html yes it's only here. but i'm not asking poor deedbot to munch this.
jurov: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000087.html
jurov: sorry my internal development url keeps leaking
trinque: jurov: hm my regex might work fine for that
trinque: it just looks for the start and end of the pgp message
trinque: lemme whitelist that
jurov: kk
trinque: deedbot-: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000087.html
deedbot-: Bad URL or network outage.
trinque: fu
davout: ImNotInTheMoodException
trinque: deedbot-: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000087.html
deedbot-: Bad URL or network outage.
trinque: alright private beatings then that'll work
jurov: but it will need to decode &lt; &gt; etc.
trinque: yeah you're right, this is going to be a pain in the dick
trinque tosses that on the deedbot- requests pile and gets back to work
trinque: I'll bet what it's actually barfing on is that <pre> on the same line as the beginning of the message
trinque: but the encoding thing will also have to be accounted for
jurov: alternatively, the clearsigned text can be easily saved as attachment
jurov: by $%#! mailman
jurov: and archived... i don't think it should be deedbot's job
trinque: jurov: yeah, I'm thinking that'll open up a lot of "message didn't verify due to html encoding fuckery" problems
trinque departs for now
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mircea_popescu qntra banner http://i.imgur.com/8mYHVc0.png ☟︎
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu dulap down ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
cazalla: is it strange that muh node use to field 40-50 active connections but the past few days tops 100?
mircea_popescu: mod6 https://8ch.net/btc/index.html << might need a few reloads, but teh republican banners, they're there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno!
jurov: mod6 ben_vulpes asciilifeform why don't we throw out the mailing list and move to 8chan?
mircea_popescu: srs ?
jurov: veeeery srs
mircea_popescu: copypaste is there a way to api the backuping of stuff on 8chan ?
copypaste: yes
copypaste: there is for example
copypaste: https://8ch.net/btc/0.json
copypaste: this is for the first page of the board
copypaste: there are also JSON for every thread
copypaste: (here's the list of threads: https://8ch.net/btc/threads.json )
copypaste: and then
copypaste: https://8ch.net/btc/res/15.json
williamdunne: My blog has been read so far by a very diverse crowd..
williamdunne: https://twitter.com/WilDunne/status/599357049684795393
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43300 @ 0.00027857 = 12.0621 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: williamdunne no women thug lifers ?
williamdunne: Apparently not
williamdunne: Sample size of 96
williamdunne: Out of like 600 sessions, rest couldn't be determined
joecool: heh that's a great domain
williamdunne: " The official currency of The Most Serene Republic" - CopyPaste do you recognize the most serene republic?
williamdunne: joecool: thethug.life you mean?
joecool: yeah
williamdunne: Thought someone had to make use of the gtlds
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lmao that's just too weird
joecool: yeah there really are getting to be a lot of random ones... eg: http://poop.bike/
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's sound marketing. More bunnies === more clicks
mircea_popescu: i don't think "the industree" of internet advertising was humiliated nearly as badly b4
BingoBoingo: Also when it comes to imageboards, can you really overdo weird?
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's live
BingoBoingo: Cool
williamdunne: joecool: Have you heard of the .sucks one? Its pretty clever. They're charging something like $4k to buy in the pre-order period so that brands will buy it before someone creates yourservice.sucks
copypaste: williamdunne: What do I need to do to recognize it?
williamdunne: copypaste: 0.1% tax on all revenues payable
williamdunne: http://thebitcoin.foundation/declaration.txt
joecool: williamdunne: who is? verisign?
mircea_popescu: schmucks will prolly pay 4k, too
joecool: oh some random canadian company
williamdunne: Vox Populi Registry Ltd
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00028462 = 10.5025 BTC [+]
williamdunne: "Applications for cause marketing (e.g. cancer.sucks), consumer advocacy and customer service."
williamdunne: How long can the cow be milked for until the udder goes dry? Will it next be .isawful, .robspeople, .killskittens?
mircea_popescu: .sbabies
mircea_popescu: domains ending in fuck, kill etc.
williamdunne: 2,199.00 USD - I stand corrected
williamdunne: For trademark holders only
williamdunne: $250 at general availability
williamdunne: On an unrelated note, is it considered acceptable to have an optional subscribe feature on a blog?
williamdunne: Or is it incredibly distasteful
BingoBoingo: Depends how implemented
williamdunne: Right hand side, for example:
williamdunne: http://thethug.life/
mircea_popescu: what;d it do tho ? like an email based bookmark/rss feed ?
mircea_popescu: seems a little silly
williamdunne: Yeah pretty much
williamdunne: To be perfectly honest the main motivation is knowing who reads my blog
joecool: i have never subscribed to a blog
mircea_popescu: you might get a half-complete list of idiots that read your blog, if you care.
mircea_popescu: i haven't ever subscribed either
joecool: mircea_popescu: probably mostly bots that subscribe and scrape content
mircea_popescu: i think in some fields (retarded "make money while you sleep" "webmaster/businessmen" ; "infomercial products" from hyps to herbal whatevers ; etc) it might well work.