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mp_en_viaje: THE. METHOD. the one thing that unites "What do you mean how ?" and the reporting "who cares who it damages" and the engineering "who cares what business models/political arrangements this renders obsolete" is [http://trilema.com/2017/is-it-still-rape-if-i-write
BingoBoingo: So, new political commercial popped up during the Parade Break. In song form "Los atracadores, se van, se van" Ended with a time and date for a rally in Colonia.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, it's about time to update the Political snapshot. Looking like the Sartori fellow with the Russian bride worth more than this country is going to so the "surprising" Great Again win.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform psd and pdl, the two major political parties at the time
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: believable political careers take time to fabricate. schniederman mighta been a someone in some other context, but what's his replacement? another "first $minoritygroup to NYAG"? even diehard leftists are not so bullish on firsts after the first black man to run the show gleefully doubletapped weddings for his entire stay in the whitehouse.
trinque: I recall one time I got pissy and tripled down on political strife over nothing.
asciilifeform: a dependency graph that came from buncha jwz types shitting where they stand, without any concept of hygiene ( esp. ~political~ hygiene, where infections of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-23#1742487 are immediately spotted and flamethrowered where they stand until not even dust remains) -- will yes, appear to demand solution to multiple np-hard problems every time you want to do the simplest things. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in other lulz of all time : the pre-collapse of pantsuitistan scholarship of the anglo "peasan't revolt" (item where they beheaded the lord chancellor/treasurer/all cambridge robes they could find etc) was that MAJOR SOCIO-ECONOMICAL and POLITICAL!!! development OF GREAT IMPACT!!11
mircea_popescu: anyway, to get back to the boxen : the correct solution to "how much box" is, on the basis of both practical observation (every time tought, either as science, or as art, or as political work worked to date ; not to mention coral growth and everything else) as well as theoretical understanding is to provide SPURS instead of walls.
BingoBoingo: lol, October 19th, 2016: "Do you remember the first time you thought Donald Trump’s presidential campaign had hit rock bottom? By now, we’ve learned that there’s no depth that Donald Trump and his team won’t sink to. And today, like most days, marks a new low. Because when Eminem thinks that your presidential campaign is in poor taste, you know that you’ve reached a historically unprecedented political nadir."
phf: a111 can easily speak on behalf of any of the logger, because i need to parse other loggers to keep the xref facility consistent. for political reasons, a111 only speaks for own logs, but it ~knows~ at the time of utterance where the link is supposed to go to
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/x3RZM >> 'The Allianz Deutscher Demokraten (ADD), a political party in Germany founded by Turkish-Germans, has faced another obstacle after their bank account was shut down for the fourth time for no reason.'
mircea_popescu: ahahaha in the best lulz odf all time, chelsea clinton has political ambitions.
mircea_popescu: ie, "feminist" made not "political-identity-gay" made. mostly because at the time gay==faggot, there wasn't a "political-identity-gay" machine.
mircea_popescu: this outlines a theoretical problem, which is present. it does not have many practical implications at the present time for purely political ("thou shalt not cycle!" is an imperative) and sociological (not that many people hammering out that many patches yet) reasons. therefore its solution is not in any sense pressing.
mircea_popescu: trinque the problem with feyerabend isn't even that he's an asshole, or whatever else. the problem is, his criticism of methodological science actually stands ; contrary to what people like to believe galilei's stance was a lot less defensible than the church's at the time ; yes he won, and yes he's from our party, so fuck the church - but this political approach to the problem is weak specifically because it tries to go up t
mircea_popescu: also at a time and place where listening to depeche mode wasn't merely happenstance but more cultural identification and political statement than a trump tshirt
mircea_popescu: well... not exactly need. but apparently we have fun subverting the socialist superstate notions of political time.
mircea_popescu: "In our time, women have been gaining political power as never before. There are (by my count) 17 female presidents and prime ministers around the world today. Sixty-three of the world’s countries have now had at least one female head of government or state in the past half century. But it’s not the fact of their being female that is important, so much as the feminine style today’s female leaders have brought to politic
asciilifeform: gives 'expiration' without invoking notions of political time etc.
mircea_popescu: in the absence of economic drivers, there will either be a political driver or no movement. which leaves us with the simple explanation. i don't gotta prove that every single individual woman thought of dick up her ass every time she spent too much money on cosmetics.
mircea_popescu: actually matching the japanese gender split of literary production and japanese political situation over time is bound to be shockingly instructive.
a111: 46 results for "political time", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=political%20time
trinque: $s political time
mircea_popescu: the book sez : "A parallel with human sexuality is not unwarranted here. At a past time when the ownership of female humans was the principal method to control capital formation and the political process, the same sort of dead hand fictions proposed that they in fact control the usage of women, that anyone owning a woman does so only as a sublicense from their sovereign ownership of all women, and may proceed only in furthera
asciilifeform: ' If they don’t want to see their country overrun by illegal migrants (note that having had you country destroyed by NATO does not qualify you for political asylum) then they are called racist and bigoted. If they fail to grasp some of the finer points of EU’s bureaucratic governance (because, frankly, who would want to waste time on all that nonsense?) then they are called ignorant and misguided. And, most importantly, if there
mircea_popescu: anyway. time to shut down hillary clinton's political aspirations.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 23:50 ben_vulpes: aight maybe some naggum as well. but there are extended discussions of political time in the logs.
ben_vulpes: aight maybe some naggum as well. but there are extended discussions of political time in the logs. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: as a side-effect, the ability to extract political time out of this arrangement reduces to being well connected to well connected nodes that are connected to well connected nodes etc.
jurov: what does political time have with it? does nonpolitical time even exist?
a111: Logged on 2015-07-08 23:22 decimation: also describing it as 'political time' when the policy is 'matches easily observable astronomical phenomena' seems a bit hyperbolic
mircea_popescu: possibly the worst political cock-up of all time, trying to empirebuild with italians.
mircea_popescu: recall the threads about ntp, political time etc ?
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 23:33:14; mircea_popescu: re the peter todd nlocktime derpage : there exists a perfectly legitimate problem with anchoring bitcoin time to political time.
mircea_popescu: re the peter todd nlocktime derpage : there exists a perfectly legitimate problem with anchoring bitcoin time to political time. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "The Economist, an excellent magazine which offers excellent analysis of complex political and economic questions, yet still manages to be on the wrong side of history every single time"
ascii_field: for perhaps the first time, i remind mircea_popescu to think of the political, and not vice-versa
asciilifeform: 'At a past time when the ownership of female humans was the principal method to control capital formation and the political process, the same sort of dead hand fictions proposed that they in fact control the usage of women, that anyone owning a woman does so only as a sublicense from their sovereign ownership of all women, and may proceed only in furtherance of the regulation they emitted as to how women may be used and may no
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 14:57:20; mircea_popescu: i find it kinda curious that asciilifeform and decimation can at the same time hold the discussion of political time we had recently in mind, and ALSO think breaking udp, or doing away with ntp is a bad idea.
mircea_popescu: i find it kinda curious that asciilifeform and decimation can at the same time hold the discussion of political time we had recently in mind, and ALSO think breaking udp, or doing away with ntp is a bad idea. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 20:08:22; decimation: re: political time < it occurred to me that the far more obvious way of synchronizing a clock is to simply take note of the sunrise and/or sunset
mircea_popescu: decimation in any case, the time bitcoin uses is a political construct.
decimation: also describing it as 'political time' when the policy is 'matches easily observable astronomical phenomena' seems a bit hyperbolic ☟︎
BingoBoingo: And at that point why not have competing political time broadcast on that signal, signed
decimation: re: political time < it occurred to me that the far more obvious way of synchronizing a clock is to simply take note of the sunrise and/or sunset ☟︎
asciilifeform: but as soon as you ask another person 'what time is it' you are playing political games
asciilifeform: try to grasp why political time is a fiction
mircea_popescu: well ideal in what sense ? it's very unideal for his idea of timekeeping, because it proves (what we already knew) : time is meaningless and political time conventional, and all sorts of nutty fashions can endure a long time. ie, 350k blocks in this case.
ascii_field: trying to illustrate the notion of 'political time' here
decimation: a political fiction that for the time being is tied to observable astronomic phenomenon
ascii_field: realize that earth time is a political fiction
ascii_field: and i still think that dependence on political time is a serious flaw in bitcoin proper
asciilifeform: but has no notion whatsoever of political time on power-up
asciilifeform: network time is an extremely fragile political fiction
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: thread was about how bitcoin as it exists is very much designed around 'political time' being a knowable and generally agreed-on thing
ascii_field: the point i've been trying to make is ~not~ 'let's all go eat our pistols' but that the entire fiction of political time is poisonous when applied to bitcoin
ascii_field: jurov: not sure if it is so much of a corner. perhaps it is possible to get a 'good enough' picture of political time via some clever means
ascii_field: i am reaching the conclusion that: to the extent bitcoin relies on political time AT ALL, it is broken.
trinque: this I think has something to do with the political problems throughout time
mircea_popescu: they were engaged in a political battle, at hte time, because they didn't like that the men, congregating in bars, decided elections.
decimation: apparently because of their political stance (all gpg keys must be public and stored for all time)
BingoBoingo: And yet Open Source is the most political thing this millenium: That's good. Frankly, neither do we, nor have we ever. Politics is a waste of time, for the most part.
mircea_popescu: "You beast! You will pay hand over fist, you and the [Romanian political party]'s newspaper The Power that allows you to shit your dirty shit! This time you're fucked! See you in court garbage!"
BingoBoingo: <brendafdez> it's the second time he's in Argentina interviewing the people he *thinks matter in bitcoin here << Thet tend to suck at identifying that, but it could just as much be the orders they recieve from their political commisar
mircea_popescu: ed. In seventeenth-century England, for instance, there was a religious and political cleavage which distinctly resembled the left-right antagonism of to-day. Looking back, most modern people would feel that the bourgeois-Puritan viewpoint was a better approximation to truth than the Catholic-feudal one. But it is certainly not the case that all or even a majority of the best writers of the time were puritans."
pete_dushenski: "neoreaction is a specific discovery of the arrow of time, within the field of political philosophy. It learns, and then teaches, that the way to get out cannot be the way we got in."
mircea_popescu: it had its political importance at the time, these aren;'t really remembered today, but at some point i had to go into fucking something awful forums and argue with the idiots as to why bitcoin actualy is valuable.
mircea_popescu: " The public schools are intended to create complacent "good citizens"—not independent thinkers—because political leaders do not like boat-rockers who question things too closely. They prefer citizens who pay their taxes on time and leave them alone to chart the course of the nation. The growth in government power since the advent of public schools is hard to ignore."
decimation: apparently nixcon actually considered denying the "RF broadcast licenses" of political enemies: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/373218/following-trail-nixon-blazed-victor-davis-hanson -- last time I heard someone slightly right-wing come up with a winning strategy
moriarty: decimation, by the time, that happens, it's a different political party
assbot: Millennials’ Political Views Baffle Baby Boomers - TIME
fluffypony: "Thailand’s military has announced it is taking control of the government and has suspended the constitution. In a TV statement, army chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha vowed to restore order and enact political reforms. The cabinet has been told to report to the military, TV broadcasting is suspended and political gatherings are banned. A nationwide curfew will operate from 22:00 to 05:00 local time."
cads: Along the way, his glasses bring him up to date on the news. Europe has achieved peaceful political union for the first time
mircea_popescu: so it will be one of the great btc-political debates of our time.