mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314814 << i would not be surprised to discover that "the backbones" are in such state of disrepair/chinification as to not be able to guarantee translation of larger blocks. because hey, "gotta voip!", so everything is wider band but shittier band, and then they have heuristics to sort-of fix the data as best possible, and that best possible is not optimized for your usec
☝︎☟︎ assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 15:00:42; asciilifeform: i would not be much surprised to discover that plaintext matching the description of a gpg sig is being silently massaged, at random, somewhere in the backbonez.
mircea_popescu: why would you imagine THAT particular aspect of the charade is in so much better shape than all the others ? can'\t fucking compile, right ? why would you be able to tcp/ip ?
mircea_popescu: and re this entire "europe suicide" bs... the eu population is half a billion. there are NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE IN ALL THE MIDDLE EAST! so a few million made it across ? big whoop. so the already marginal worthless white trash is going to have a worse time of it ? GOOD. fuck them, they took arms against their king in the name of convenience, comfort and MUUU then they earnestly expect it'll work out for them ? ha.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: a little bit of comfort for a short interval and then oblivion. this is how nature works.
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mircea_popescu: maybe the slightly browner kids their sisters will have whether they want to or not will have better sense.
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BingoBoingo: I dunno dollares need a whole second message
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 15:04:12; asciilifeform: (picture what would happen if you sent them a 'winning entry')
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 16:49:15; jurov: !t m x.eur
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shinohai: Have I been spelling that wrong all this time? Perusal ?
shinohai: Now the dea will team uo with noaa and send agents down to confiscate all the seaweed.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 00:16:16; mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314814 << i would not be surprised to discover that "the backbones" are in such state of disrepair/chinification as to not be able to guarantee translation of larger blocks. because hey, "gotta voip!", so everything is wider band but shittier band, and then they have heuristics to sort-of fix the data as best possible, and that best possible is not opti
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 00:18:33; mircea_popescu: and re this entire "europe suicide" bs... the eu population is half a billion. there are NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE IN ALL THE MIDDLE EAST! so a few million made it across ? big whoop. so the already marginal worthless white trash is going to have a worse time of it ? GOOD. fuck them, they took arms against their king in the name of convenience, comfort and MUUU then they earnestly expect it'll work out fo
jurov: first "wasps" from turkey arrived in germany 30 years ago . per your theory, it should lay in ruins already
jurov: so? english lords did it, too
jurov: and catholic teachers in ireland
jurov: but i guess this discussion is hopeless, goodnight
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's not to get ? one would set food in the deathtraps for cunt.
mircea_popescu: and the bullet thing is nonsense. immigration only hurts low status males. it helps low status females, and high status everybody.
mircea_popescu: fuck the low status males, who the fuck said they get anything ?
mircea_popescu: if they didn't suck there wouldn'\t be immigration, they'd be out there enslaving africa.
mircea_popescu: they wanna be orwell, that's fine BUT it comes with a dulap and anal lube.
mircea_popescu: again : if they had intended to work they would be out there shooting elephants.
mircea_popescu: yeah, it does, on account of romania making the parts. tyvm.
mircea_popescu: pretty much all brake assemblages used in "european" cars made in ro.
mircea_popescu: anwyay. 100k engineers and techs is not this discussion.
mircea_popescu: 50 mn nobodies derping about "nordic system" up and down is this discussion.
mircea_popescu: germany took the eastern orcs 20 years ago, what did it do ?
mircea_popescu: understand the fundaments of society : if you're confronted with a group of 100 idiot boys doing idiot shit, you go up to one of them, grab him by the hair and bash his head into a wall until he stops moving. problem solved. if however you run into a group of 100 idiot girls sitting around being weird, you rape one. problem also solved.
mircea_popescu: there is a very deep reason black communities do not have the biological collapse problem of "upscale" white communities in the same damned us state / county. no it's not "poverty" and no it's not "fuck da police".
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 17:39:30; funkenstein_: trinque, meaning, if you want my behaviors implanted on future generations... you must have some respect for those who shaped mine, etc.
mircea_popescu: it didn't work for them. maybe it works for you, who knows.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 02:02:42; mircea_popescu: there is a very deep reason black communities do not have the biological collapse problem of "upscale" white communities in the same damned us state / county. no it's not "poverty" and no it's not "fuck da police".
assbot: You have not rated zfx.
mircea_popescu: black mothers beat their children. black husbands beat their wives. brothers lay the smackdown on one another all the time, and teenaged females with overactive coyness stand a decent change to get a sweet sixteen gangbang. this all helps to maintain the society functional.
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mircea_popescu: people love to derp about how easter island ecological collapse is an example of this and that,
mircea_popescu: rarely does it occur that "this is what happens when no preditors"
mircea_popescu: it's what fucking health is. "an organism is healthy when all foreign bodies ingested are food."
zfx: can anyone recommend high-quality starting literature for studying electronics?
zfx: well, I'm interested in some of the cpu reinvention ideas discussed here
mircea_popescu: L. D. Landau and E. M. Lifshitz, Electrodynamics in Continuous Media. hurr.
zfx: asciilifeform: how far is 'basic'?
zfx: asciilifeform: my lack of knowledge is somewhat robbing me of the ability to ask the right question...
mircea_popescu: eh, read that volume 8. can't be you're doing anything more important anyway.
zfx: put it this way, I've spent a pretty long time working with software, but never dug into the hardware as far as I'd like to
mircea_popescu: (read, in the mathematical sense, is a specific thing. do all the work. especially the stuff towards the end of a chapter. ESPECIALLY.P)
zfx: certainly not far enough to read schematics and understand what I'm looking at
zfx: mircea_popescu: thanks, will read
zfx: can't hurt to understand the fundamentals
zfx: that's not really my style
mircea_popescu: they wanna learn how to arrange mosfets, take a job in a tv repair shop for a summer.
shinohai: Guatemala still has old sets :D
mircea_popescu has observed person mill cylinder piston replacement by hand
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 20:13:22; jurov: ascii_field: how do you flamethrower million people?
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 20:17:49; ascii_field: or that if a million russians wanted to move in and rape, pillage, there would be the same welcome ?
mircea_popescu: heck, the only reason putin can't get rid of the underworld like stalin did is PRECISELY that back in stalin's day they'd have been shot, but these days... welcomed.
mircea_popescu: you know romania had better guarantees, in writing, than nato is ?
mircea_popescu: somehow it was "defeated" both times, notwithstanding that fuck you, bunch of idiots, you don't show up as per deal and then bitch about it five years later ?
mircea_popescu: poland got nearly wiped, on the strength of the same scam, also twice.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 20:19:08; ascii_field: the orcs are welcome because they spread chaos and destroy the competition of usg
mircea_popescu: end of fucking story, no usg enters into any of it. binary choice, pick one : ( ) man ; ( ) boy.
mircea_popescu: for as long as italians aren't dropping nerve gas on eritrea,
mircea_popescu: and bitching notwithstanding, i will point out that this "send the women naked butt first" approach is so far working a lot better than the "we will resist behind the walls of vienna" 1100s stuff.
mircea_popescu: (recall my discussion of china and how it keeps creating these waves that smash europe ?)
mircea_popescu: that's the deep driver here. the us isn't even on the map.
mircea_popescu: china is strongly centralizing again, the nomads are going west.
mircea_popescu: at least this time they don't have a leader. yet they are very well connected.
mircea_popescu: god fucking help the lot if they do actually get a leader.
mircea_popescu: 100 man "special forces" teams are impressive on tv, owing to the poor quality of the camera as a perception mechanism.
mircea_popescu: how come the fucking rebels were in syria rather than in fucking japan ?
mircea_popescu: who the fuck do you think flattened syria if not a bunch of hardcore dudes that have been training against the "coallition" scarecrows for a decade ?
mircea_popescu: they don't wanna live in rome, they wanna live in lebanon. they don't like your women, they like those.
mircea_popescu: because much less shit to explain, they mostly get it.
mircea_popescu: "isis" is a conveyor belt. it reduces tectonics by moving people west.
mircea_popescu: like hell. this is your "usg matters" delusion speaking.
mircea_popescu: they're different people. the people colonising england and the people beheading us "soldiers" are maybe born from the same mother,
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 20:25:14; ascii_field: no worries, the caliphate will rediscover the art of picturesque capital punishment in eu.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 20:41:28; jurov: i suspect it will end up like wwii, it will be *very* different germany as before, but everyone will still envy it
mircea_popescu: the magical thing about societal collapse is that meh, whatever. women are still usable anyway.
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 20:42:09; ascii_field: jurov: wwii did not involve a population replacement in de
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the greeks weren't enough. that's the thing with them, from anabasis onwards : never fucking enough
mircea_popescu: what i'd rather doesn't enter into it. i would rather the "civilised" world burn than continue.
mircea_popescu: yes, i'd much rather that this burning happens in the consciousness of the derps involved,
trinque: there's crap at the end of it, which is probably why
trinque: just hack off that end bit and I expect it will work
trinque: felipelalli: I just did it for ya :)
mircea_popescu: basically you need a pgp key (do you have one ?) and register it with assbot
felipelalli: trinque, but I need that stuff in the end. Should I re-sign the entire message? It will work?
Krystyl: I think I need to look into this more because I have no idea what pgp & gpg are........
trinque: felipelalli | nice! thank you trinque << quite welcome
mod6: yeah, wanna test it a bit more before.. but by the end of the weekend for sure.
mod6: the changes should make it so that you don't need Graph::Easy until you wanna run the "g" or "graph" command.
mod6: thx! i'll post this change here as soon as I get everything bundled up and the docs altered.
mod6: <+funkenstein_> mod6 ,thanks for the script :D << np
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> you know romania had better guarantees, in writing, than nato is ? << Scammed by "Dallas"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That 80's TV show. They didn't want other arrangements. They wanted Texas's loving arms and ended up with a bunch of empty Yankee promises.
BingoBoingo: Allies with planes their existing stock beats in exercises and whatnot
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robotnum1: so how many of you are short at this moment?
BingoBoingo: Das not a very polite question, but I'm about 5'7"
robotnum1: no one know how long this bubble is gonna last. I wish i knew
robotnum1: or rather where it is gonna do a U-turn
BingoBoingo: Not a U-turn, this isn't Missouri so not legal here. A gravity assisted slingshot.
robotnum1: our of this solar system i suppose
mircea_popescu: <robotnum1> so how many of you are short at this moment? << i would be surprised if anyone is short btc.
BingoBoingo: robotnum1: I've got a movie about market crashes to psych you up if you are short: "My Name is Bill W", has James Woods, not bad for made for tv
BingoBoingo: Prolly the best movie about the 1929 crash out there
BingoBoingo: just torrent it already. Youtube is nothing but flash and google virii orfice
ben_vulpes: ahaha wut spike lee thinks he's doing lysistrata
ben_vulpes: things that don't exist in your world iirc
ben_vulpes: perhaps google? imdb might tell of them.
phf: spike lee is making a movie with spacey and chappelle? :o
ben_vulpes: anyone know which contravex piece slit the "car reportering" scam open?
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 03-11-2015 04:11:28; mircea_popescu: they have fucking names and people sleep with them in bed.
felipelalli: trinque, do you know why my deed wasn't published yet in deedbot.org? Thank you.
trinque: felipelalli: btcd blew up, actually
trinque: I am not yet sure why; it was accepted though, and also the transaction was sent
trinque: so it will be on the website shortly
trinque: felipelalli: it is about 20 blocks behind at the moment, so it shouldn't be too long, perhaps an hour
felipelalli: trinque, to avoid blew up due to spam txs put this on config:
felipelalli: minrelaytxfee=0.0003 limitfreerelay=3 sendfreetransactions=0
trinque: felipelalli: could very well have been, though I'm going to have to have a talk with runit as to why it wasn't immediately restarted. perhaps it was running slow for a while before death
trinque: I'll look into that for sure, thanks :)
felipelalli: actually, I just saw right now that my node is also DEAD!! lol
felipelalli: it is weird because I run an instance of testnet and normal node in the same machine and both are dead.
felipelalli: it was unrelated. In my case the HD just crashed. I was using an old external HD :)
mircea_popescu: "While that’s a big deal for the U.S. industry and the people it employs, it doesn’t mean much for global supplies. Alcoa’s decision to eliminate 503,000 metric tons of smelting capacity accounts for about 31 percent of the U.S. total for primary aluminum, but less than one percent of the global total, according to Harbor."
ben_vulpes: subject of le terror, i rewatched Swordfish last night
ben_vulpes: very amusing that the thing was released on the eve of 9/11
mircea_popescu: who fucks them ? who feeds them ? and most importantly : why ?
trinque: deedbot- is having a terrible time getting a node which will speak to him at the moment
trinque: no, and it's high time I switched to the proper client; this has been on btcd for quite a while
trinque: 2gb ram, using 500mb, 1 core but not using nearly any CPU at the moment
trinque: the orphan blocks started after 381963
trinque: mircea_popescu: ty, added and restarted. it's connected, hasn't said anything about a block yet
mircea_popescu: "i have an idea", sez buterin, "let's print and sell eth! it's almost as good as tax and spend!"
trinque: sweet, there it goes with 381964
Namworld: Is there anyone interested in buying 20% of Coinroll? If he didn't ask in here yet, I know someone who wants to do just.
punkman: Namworld: how much is that valued at?
punkman: copypaste: was in the logs, rest of the board bought cazalla's shares
davout: copypaste: approx. 10 btc if memory serves
gribble: Error: "davout" is not a valid command.
Namworld: punkman, sorry, no valuation. Unlisted.
Namworld: It comes with a right to ~50 BTC from undistributed bankroll. So there's already a base price of 2.5 BTC per %. and some offers. Although if you want to make an offer, you should drop a mail at support email or something. Sure our guy would appreciate.
Namworld: All data and stats are public/downloadable on website.
Namworld: I'll try and come back around.
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assbot: Tennessee man charged with raping wife in church parking lot: ‘I am your husband, I can get it anytime I want’ ... (
http://bit.ly/1RuXDyd )
shinohai: think it is down across the board
shinohai: dunno mircea_popescu said sumthin in the lawgs about it crappin out for some unknown reason.
wyrdmantis: shinoai thanks dude, no time to read the logs in this period
shinohai: no worries, I finally stopped being lazy and fixed me ml mail to go to the correct email for btc-dev.
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 :: 16.09 B (26%) on Yes, 46.75 B (74%) on No | closing in 1 month 1 week| weight: 84`375 (100`000 to 20`000) ... (
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solrodar: what happens if ALL the bets on one side are refunded?
solrodar: I think the only fair response would be to cancel the whole bet and refund the other side as well
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> that's not so good. <+asciilifeform> which is not a thing that you want. << Ah, ok. Thanks for looking at it. Instead of using ~/.gnupg, would it be alright to create a ~/.gpgtmp upon startup and rm ~/.gpgtmp when complete?
☟︎☟︎ punkman: solrodar: that does seem problematic
solrodar: I'd argue that BitBet is holding the pool in trust for the winners
solrodar: if there are no winners, then the whole thing is null and void and the money should be sent back to where it came from
punkman: solrodar: but do the losing bettors have a claim on that money?
mod6: anyway, if thats acceptable, I'll see what I can do about it tonight.
fluffypony: wow major protests happening in Romania
trinque: mircea_popescu: in my logs, deedbot's btcd eventually disconnected from 188.68.240.159 and began receiving orphan blocks again. after restarting it, it reconnected to your node and is receiving blocks normally again
fluffypony: "32 people died (and a lot more in critical condition) because of a fire in a club last Friday. The problem is that the the local authorities allowed that club to function without even the most basic fire-precaution measures, which essentially led to the fire and that many victims (150 injured and as i said before quite a few in critical condition). With a bit of a bribe you can do anything in Romania."
shinohai: @ fluffypony yeah I just noticed mircea_popescu home country was having a chimpout wow xD
mircea_popescu: soo, re mpex : the trouble has been identified, i'm pretty sure. will be fixed and then tested etc, i expect mpex back before the weekend.
mircea_popescu: <assbot> Tennessee man charged with raping wife in church parking lot: ‘I am your husband, I can get it anytime I want’ << kinda what "the traditional marriage" institution means innit.
☟︎ shinohai: marriage should be like an alliance between friendly nations. Outside of that it is a horrid concept, as defined in the us
mircea_popescu: fluffypony mmyeah, some cattle got burned so now they want the mayor in prison. because logically, that's what matters. when teh politruks set the whole country on fire nobody gave a shit, but god help you if some moos get run over.
mircea_popescu: shinohai here's the problem : explain to me that you are defending "traditional marriage" aka "between a man or a woman" ~for the principle of the thing~ but not at the same time "traditional marriage" aka "the husband can take it whenever he feels like". they're both the same thing.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: sort-of like a dilbert reader going by "colombo" or some equally ridiculous shit.
shinohai: marriage hasn't always been historically defined between solely man and woman though, iirc
shinohai wishes there was an actual "#b-a Bible" written in a religious-styled prose ...
solrodar: punkman: in the absence of any precedent or rule for this situation, I suppose nobody has a claim on the money
mircea_popescu: god i hate bucharest. just looking at that picture... brrrrr. but unrelatedly, if you lived behind one of those front windows, and there was a protest at night like that, wouldn't you fuck the woman for the camera ?
solrodar: it would be acceptable for bitbet to destroy it by sending it somewhere provably unspendable, but not to keep it for themselves
mircea_popescu: solrodar the problem with precedent and rule based systems is that you don't know what will happen until it actually happens. i would guess what would happen here would be the bet gets cancelled and so the nos get their btc back too, and perhaps the ability of bet starter to create that clause gets curtailed.
punkman: that would not be acceptable
trinque: meanwhile I'm looking into what can be done about the node losing its connection to polite nodes, getting orphans barfed at it by impolite nodes
☟︎ assbot: Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
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mircea_popescu: trinque this is a gnarly thing that's been being worked on for a while.
mircea_popescu: so wait... i made a few hundred million while i was sleeping ?
mircea_popescu: shinohai popescu is like the most common romanian name.
shinohai: I know, it appears like diaz or something round here. It only pops up in there bcuz I follow qntra, et all
mircea_popescu: goldbug too lol. funny. "Consultant - Gold & Silver Analyst - Gold Standard, International Monetary System, Precious Metals, Currencies, Geopolitics, Macroeconomics"
mircea_popescu: consultant @ nothing in particular, doesn't really look the right age range for this nuttery.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 14:30:30; mircea_popescu: solrodar it is an interesting point.
mircea_popescu: Ethereum (ETH) $ 0.748576 (-24.18 %) 0.00152907 BTC (-39.43 %)
mircea_popescu: if anyone was fucktarded enough to buy into the scam on its final phase, i would like to meet them.
danielpbarron:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315758 << 1 Corinthians 7:3 Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 14:34:09; mircea_popescu: shinohai here's the problem : explain to me that you are defending "traditional marriage" aka "between a man or a woman" ~for the principle of the thing~ but not at the same time "traditional marriage" aka "the husband can take it whenever he feels like". they're both the same thing.
mircea_popescu: holy shit, check it out, mp's "you don't own your own sex bits" is older than europe!
mircea_popescu: so here's something for alf : "Through much of their history US finishing schools emphasized education in the social graces and de-emphasized scholarship: society encouraged a polished young lady to hide her intellectual prowess for fear of frightening away suitors. For instance Miss Porter's School in 1843 advertised itself as Miss Porter's Finishing School for Young Ladies—even though its founder was a noted schola
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "Phil Schiller, Apple's longtime senior vice president of worldwide marketing5, is waiting for me when I arrive at Building 3 at the company's Infinite Loop headquarters in Cupertino, California on an unusually warm fall day." motherfucker these idiots.
mircea_popescu: "o no we must do the bio insert IT IS HOW WRITING IS DONE!11!"
mircea_popescu: i can't fucking read this gunk. /me skips to footnotes, in perhaps the first occurence this century of that once-prevalent approach
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i have nfi what the 1st note says. can you explain the intended meaning ?
☟︎ punkman: "Accused Gulf Cartel boss Juan Manuel Loiza Salinas reassured residents of Reynosa through a series of banners last week that he is a drug trafficker and not a terrorist."
phf: mod6: original v uses mkdtemp for keyring folder. the general idea is that you don't want to reuse the keyring folder, since it's a place where state is kept for no good reason. you can make sure on startup that you also check that the folder doesn't exist & clean it up before using it, but..
mircea_popescu: "George Bush was one of these people as well. An intimate of his machine once described his public behavior to me, the long and short of which is that the man is excellent at regurgitating that which had been said to him or that he'd heard, and to stitch together a pastiche that can pass for creative conversation, but largely unable to cook up his own output." << sounds like ivy league.
mircea_popescu: the narcs are definitely going to be running mexico going forward.
mircea_popescu: "True, and disingenous. Truly disingenous. They absolutely are "taking responsibility" for the whole stack, but in the opposite direction of that Moldbuggian notion of the modern bureaucracy dissolving both authority and responsibility across the whole organization. Apple's working quite well to gather the mantle of authority around themselves while avoiding any responsibility at all for the work that they produce."
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assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 13:43:59; mod6: <+mircea_popescu> that's not so good. <+asciilifeform> which is not a thing that you want. << Ah, ok. Thanks for looking at it. Instead of using ~/.gnupg, would it be alright to create a ~/.gpgtmp upon startup and rm ~/.gpgtmp when complete?
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 14:23:52; mircea_popescu: <assbot> Tennessee man charged with raping wife in church parking lot: ‘I am your husband, I can get it anytime I want’ << kinda what "the traditional marriage" institution means innit.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 14:40:55; trinque: meanwhile I'm looking into what can be done about the node losing its connection to polite nodes, getting orphans barfed at it by impolite nodes
trinque: you recommend a separate proggy rather than patch to bitcoind?
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform equally depressed on ups AND downs, probably to nobody's great surprise <<< and this ISN'T a psycological defense!
mircea_popescu: we're miserable and things must not change so we stay that way!
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 04:43:02; ben_vulpes: anyone know which contravex piece slit the "car reportering" scam open?
trinque: asciilifeform: idea being bitcoind uses -connect=proxy and the proxy handles the other end?
☟︎ trinque: then maybe munches log looking for signs of rude nodes?
trinque: right, meanwhile addnode is not a guarantee iirc
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 16:00:49; mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i have nfi what the 1st note says. can you explain the intended meaning ?
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 17:06:55; kakobrekla: meat today!
pete_dushenski: I recently discovered that MACOS 10.10.2 categorically refuses to sleep if a video is playing in Chrome.
pete_dushenski: ^saw similarly strange behaviour in 10.10 mba when running 'sophos'
pete_dushenski: craptop was closed, shoulda been asleep, but would magically awake, run, and damn near cook itself to death in an effort to be 'pest free'
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 02:17:42; mircea_popescu: or pr without cicero
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: the carrot dangleth before you, and when you finally taste it, may that fateful day come, you'll be in the unfortunate position of having to find still another carrot to chase.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 15:02:51; mircea_popescu: so here's something for alf : "Through much of their history US finishing schools emphasized education in the social graces and de-emphasized scholarship: society encouraged a polished young lady to hide her intellectual prowess for fear of frightening away suitors. For instance Miss Porter's School in 1843 advertised itself as Miss Porter's Finishing School for Young Ladies—even though its founder w
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 17:24:30; asciilifeform: i don't expect to live to eat even the very tip of that carrot.
kakobrekla: before bitcoin, i was living in barrel because no matter what i wanst going to be a part of the slave system. you wouldnt call that living.
kakobrekla: it was slightly larger than Diogeneses
kakobrekla: move to MK, rent a flat for 100 bux, a better one than my ex barrel.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 13-10-2014 12:56:26; kakobrekla: i understood this pretty quickly so i never got employed.
kakobrekla: and you think this came without consequences ?
kakobrekla: this is a place where cops still take bribes. all of them.
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2014 02:05:11; asciilifeform: 'american does not believe the man in the uniform to be a bandit, with whom one can come to an understanding. he believes him to be a robot, who must be feared. american law enforcers are able to, by pressing on the keyboard of a multitude of laws and regulations, 'transmute' the most insignificant peccadillo into a monstrous deed. FBI did not need to beat up Monica or toss into her purse heroin or am
kakobrekla: nah, EU cant bribe a cop. not even in croatia.
kakobrekla: actually iirc there is a huge underground usg army base in mk
pete_dushenski: one wonders why usg/uk bother with such surveillance legislation at all if they actually have de facto doing-whatever-the-fuck-it-wants-to-whoever-it-wants powerz
pete_dushenski: seems more like 'we can achieve 90% compliance with 10% effort just by scaring derps into submission'
pete_dushenski: i've even seen this at usg 'green building' trade shows.
pete_dushenski: 'don't bring electric power tools because not green!' 'uhhh fuck you'
pete_dushenski: i'd argue that this type of posturing ~does~ matter in the sense that it's a further wedge between ( ) boys and ( ) men
pete_dushenski: if anything, it'll push a few maybe neithers off the fence towards manhood
pete_dushenski: *contracts between private individuals being another sort of 'piece of paper' altogether, one obviously needing to be very, very afraid of not honouring
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:04:36; *: asciilifeform admits that he suspects bip64 of being a plot to create usg-like bonds in btc. folks will be asked to trace X proper btc for X+epsilon 'locked' ones that are to land back in their pocket 'in the future', should they live long enough, but are actually recovable 'because this is how the world works'
lobbes: l0l, the many eyes that read the logs
lobbes: 'definitelynotisis.com'
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: you gonna let the USG force you to shut down your node?
Namworld: In case anyone missed it yesterday, someone is looking to sell 20% of Coinroll
mike_c: jurov: you still own part of coinroll?
Namworld: jurov does, as well as wao, as well as me. But none of us is selling.
Namworld: The sale will have to go through jurov & wao anyway
mike_c: You each have 20%? Are these "voting" shares or silent-partner type?
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 17:29:23; pete_dushenski: kakobrekla: and what did you do pre-btc ?
pete_dushenski: kakobrekla: no worries, i thought mebbe it was sooper sekrit. but really, no finance background ?
Namworld: No, we don't all have 20%. And these are non-voting shares
Namworld: Although jurov and wao will consider any input/advice you give, they take the decisions.
ben_vulpes: Namworld: it's painful to watch people dragging these details out of you. is there a signed operating agreement in place people can look at somewhere?
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski has it with the elusive negation
jurov: ben_vulpes there is not anything gpg signed. there was agreement with scrat, but he went mia
jurov: we will draft it if anyone has serious interest
☟︎ ben_vulpes: well i'm not but damn this is going to be an expensive price discovery exercise without contracts.
ben_vulpes: everyone's in the wot (right?) so it should work itself out eventually, but this is an interesting example of how gpgconomy works in contrast to the fiat contracting system.
ben_vulpes: yes, you're all in the wot, so no need for contracts, they're unenforceable anyways. that said, without formalized business relationships, pricing the paper's...complicated.
pete_dushenski: jurov: my guess is that your approach is backwards. should have gpg signed statement FIRST, then serious interest follows
ben_vulpes: like how many non voting shares? how many voting shares? who can issue more shares, and under what conditions?
ben_vulpes: and that's just 3 questions that should be wrapped up neatly in the operating agreement.
kakobrekla: asciilifeform but does usg really need to honeytrap ? as far as i get it, there is no need for such customs.
pete_dushenski: "Magnets keep all your computer equipment in place, and it moves with you as you change positions. So even while you recline, your monitor and keyboard are proportionally placed for you to continue working." << re: altwork thingie. fuck magnets. give me screws and anchors !
kakobrekla: i thought it was 1) pick up the fella 2) fuck him up
ben_vulpes: what precisely is your concern, though? relaying of 3vil t3rrist txns?
ben_vulpes: shrem was out and out breaking the law
kakobrekla: but anyway, if you dont feel like running a node from home, you should not do it.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how did you get from mocking "omg my packetz" to "omg my packetz"?
Namworld: There's no share, just a stake in %. No share dilution as of now. Dilution could appear in the form of allowing investments on the site like other dice site where you can stake the bankroll. Although this would in no way be absolute/permanent.
Namworld: Not sure how the transfer would be done, but I'm sure jurov and wao will sign both payment address and amount for the offer and agreement of share ownership upon payment.
Namworld: As for Coinroll's stats and data, it's always been available publicly for download.
ben_vulpes: Namworld: I'm sure you see the problem with statements-in-the-log-as-operating-agreement
Namworld: Yes, that's why am saying it can all be signed properly prior to purchase occuring.
Namworld: I just wanted to let it known as I don't think that other guy advertised it around much.
kakobrekla: asciilifeform if not sekrit, which hw raid cards do you use/like?
jurov: please find anything other than rt. anything.
jurov: even xinhua is miles better than rt
trinque: asciilifeform: along the lines of the problems with your node, deedbot- now routinely gets orphans and nothing else blasted at it from various IPs, and will at times not be able to reach the node mircea_popescu gave, though I am not presently certain why
trinque: currently it is trying to catch up from the last orphan ass blasting by feeding from mp's node
trinque: and I have given that IP via -connect which unfortunately will keep it from being of use to anyone else
trinque: two things there: one I think I will begin looking into the connect vs addnode tangle this weekend, as it's affecting the proper functioning of the deedbot-
☟︎ trinque: and two, I would like to move the hosting of the thing off AWS if anyone can recommend a friendlier host
☟︎ trinque: it would not be surprising to me at all that Amazon obediently fucks with the thing from within
trinque: also, I span up bitcoind-0.5.4-beta last night and it began gagging on orphan blocks around 150k
trinque: this was from a home connection.
trinque: that one I'll restart later and see how it fares.
trinque: if the walls have eyes, the tubes have apparently grown fingers
trinque: it is munching on the IP from mp successfully for now
ben_vulpes: i suspect that the operational protocol must be "one node for the network, one node for infrastructure"
ben_vulpes: eg if you want to run a node for infrastructure, you should -connect it to a synced node -addnode'd to the network at large.
trinque: really needs the wotnet to function properly, and this still doesn't fix black holing, just mitm
ben_vulpes: i'm still kindastonished the thing never had encrypted connections.
trinque: ben_vulpes: I'm glad the guy didn't just bolt ssl to the thing
punkman: can ssh tunnel to trusted nodes
funkenstein_: trinque: I don't know who they are but i have had some luck with bitcoincloud.eu vps
☟︎ mike_c: I am not understanding this romanian mess.. what the hell does some fire in a club have to do with the PM
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 09:47:50; copypaste: Who took his place, if anyone?
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 09:47:56; copypaste: I find it odd this wasn't mentioned.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 18:45:43; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu what is the proper defence against getting 'shremmed' ?
BingoBoingo: My take on shrem though was the magazine profile where the reporter mentioned his smoking lamp out in the open made him irredeemably a "drug criminal" in the eyes of USG
punkman: and what of the 100 million people smoking/selling dope openly on twitter,facebook,youtube,topix,etc
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BingoBoingo: It seems this current volatility is a delayed response to drama season. I predict moar wild swings as all this pent up drama acts on Bitcoin price after having been suppressed so long
jurov: lol, bitcoin is ccoming out of the closet?
imposter: is this the trollbox?
BingoBoingo: "While we can all agree that pet obesity is a problem, and obviously not healthy for our feline friends, please refrain from commenting here about it. Users have been banned, and I hate having to do it. So please don't make me."
imposter: how can i bitcoin
imposter: how can to blockchain
imposter: waht do private keyy
jurov: or write code on ur manboobs
shinohai: Classic BingoBoingo .... I thought I remembered you getting someone to do sharpie-in-bunghole on CC one night.
imposter: r0kit are we rich yet?
☟︎ BingoBoingo: shinohai: I didn't start it, hanbot did on bitcointalk
shinohai: Is there anything hanbot can't do?
assbot: Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
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shinohai: relax and have some tea or something. sheesh.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 17:14:50; trinque: asciilifeform: idea being bitcoind uses -connect=proxy and the proxy handles the other end?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a) no depressed is ever logical ; b) no depressed ever admits to this.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 17:30:46; kakobrekla: move to MK, rent a flat for 100 bux, a better one than my ex barrel.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 17:35:49; asciilifeform: we have a kind of 'barrel' in usa - there is a caste of folks who live in converted 'trailers'
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 18:00:34; asciilifeform: and for every brian micon that needs to be tried for 'illegal bitcoining' you have 1,001 schmucks who were afraid to even read about it because 'they log my packetz'
shinohai: I have tinfoil over mah ethernet cables, I'm safe.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares what derpy popcollar aspie[rational] mba does or doesn't do.
mircea_popescu: hey, i like that. aspie[rational]. it describes so very much, from the bayesian pseudoscientards to web analytics derps.
mircea_popescu: next i'm gonna read about how the us mattered scientifically at some point in its history ?
shinohai: protonmail still under ddos hue
mircea_popescu: re the peter todd nlocktime derpage : there exists a perfectly legitimate problem with anchoring bitcoin time to political time.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform powerless in the face of this magic << Serenity to accept the things that cannot change, courage to change the things that can, wisdom to know the difference (TM)(R)
mircea_popescu: the solutions proposed aren't very good, but this does not make the problem go away
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i fail to see it as anything other than john smithing.
mircea_popescu: which is why the republic doesn't (and currently shouldn't) be a place.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 23:33:14; mircea_popescu: re the peter todd nlocktime derpage : there exists a perfectly legitimate problem with anchoring bitcoin time to political time.
mircea_popescu: anyway, why are we even discussing the nlocktime thing ? lot of version 4 blocks or what ?
mircea_popescu: the best thing you can do for it is to get the pogo ready to go.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 18:20:23; asciilifeform: so into iptables it goes.
mircea_popescu: if you care, then the argument is why do you care about this but not thatr, and sooner or later you won't notice one.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 18:27:40; asciilifeform: i insist on being shot for high treason rather than for somehow associating with spamming scum.
mircea_popescu: treasonous nsa subdirectorate head got done for "killing people" the [meanwhile deceased] chief of police killed.
mircea_popescu: you're a weirdo, so my money's on you going for "sex crimes".
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nope, just shuttle you to the trailer living caste
shinohai is a proponent of legal euthanasia.
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 18:45:43; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu what is the proper defence against getting 'shremmed' ?
shinohai: I prefer wine laced with hemlock but whatevs.
mircea_popescu: the "thread" isn't a thread nor does it make it any clearer. what magic talismans are you asking of ?
shinohai: Anyoone ever notice te striking resemblnce between Gavin & Porky Pig ?
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 18:47:41; jurov: we will draft it if anyone has serious interest
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 18:50:13; *: asciilifeform would like input from his WoT re: what is the correct thing to do with obvious usg honeytrapping as described earlier.
mircea_popescu: as v.i.lenin said, people who get involved in revolutions best learn to like prison food.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in the general, this is the closed form life equation of people doing something worthwhile : they have a terrible time as kids because their parents are idiots ; they get fucking stampeded as adults, because people are lazy ; they get all the accolades, moneys and bitches when they're old, because it doesn't do anything for them anymore (thus it's finally safe) ; once they're dead they get to be the face sellin
mircea_popescu: g whatever stupid shit, because they can no longer protest.
mircea_popescu: (rthere should be an office to approve usage of names for purposes, consisting of a clerk with a REJECTED stamp)
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 18:54:25; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: usg algo is, as i understand: 1) pick a fella who needs to have problems 2) steer known scum to his $thing 3) have it be established that he knows of (2) 4) pick him up as a thieves' fence
mircea_popescu: do you actually know what happened there and deliberately misrepresent or do you just use in your thought process things you understand at fishwrap level ?
mircea_popescu: well looky here! why are you using things you don't know!
mircea_popescu: do you program like this too ? "fuck knows what this function does but the name seems to have the right number of vowels" ?
mircea_popescu: derp conspired with some other derp to break the very promises he made in writing to the usg!
mircea_popescu: how many degrees of separation is this ? didja sign a promise to the usg to police the blockchain ?
mircea_popescu: shrem registered as a money transmitter, and named himself as the agent in charge of making sure ustardation is implemented.
mircea_popescu: then shrem met some derp at a bar and they came up with a plan which consisted of shrem not noticing the derp is doing the opposite