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mircea_popescu: which man... musta hurt.
nefario: whats the total btc
mircea_popescu: liek a coupla hundred maybe ?
nefario: ouch
nefario: mircea_popescu: someone wants out
mircea_popescu: !ticker S.MPOE
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.000035 / 0.00029989 / 0.0004 (5892150 shares, 1,767.01 BTC), 30day: 0.000035 / 0.00036086 / 0.00041457 (66456721 shares, 23,981.68 BTC)
mircea_popescu: lol 0.000035 / 0.0004 that's cute.
mircea_popescu: nah nefario , if they wanted out could have taken their time. someone sold 10x as many as they meant to.
mircea_popescu: not really much of a loss except for those 1.6mn at the end.
mircea_popescu: .py 1600000 * 0.00035
markac: 560.0
mircea_popescu: bout 500 btc.
mircea_popescu: so in the end deadterra sold nothing ? or am i misreading this https://glbse.com/asset/view/GSDPT
mircea_popescu: nm, glbse down again.
PsychoticBoy: down and as far as I know no he sold nothing yet
EmanuelDeOrtego: I am disappoint.
mircea_popescu: i tell you, if after all the hee-haw on the forums glbse manages to sell 10 btc's worth...
mircea_popescu: it's gonna be sad.
maximian: Wow, there a lot of happy s.mpoe bidders today
mircea_popescu: poor smickles.
mircea_popescu: when he wakes up and sees this he's gonna seethe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00038342 = 2.8757 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00038336 = 0.345 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 142 @ 0.00346064 = 0.4914 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00038342 = 8.8953 BTC [+]
k3t3r: whats the score with glbse?
k3t3r: down
EmanuelDeOrtego: Apparently there is a major bug being closed
EmanuelDeOrtego: so its for the best it seems
smickles: heh
smickles: i caught it taht time
smickles: :D
smickles: at least a little :/
smickles: how low did that go?
smickles: .0001? really?
smickles: :o
smickles: i should'a had more wher i bid at :(
BTC-Mining: What bug?
BTC-Mining: And that 0.0001 might get reversed, whatever it was
smickles: ah man, well, it turns out i only had a 1btc wort of a bid a .0028
smickles: BTC-Mining: the .0001 on s.mpoe?
BTC-Mining: oh, MPOE
smickles: waht .0001 are you talking about *shivers*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00038342 = 1.8021 BTC [+]
BTCHero: BTC-Mining: what happened to kraken on glbse (when it was up)?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00038537 = 0.0771 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00038503 = 3.4268 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: So
EmanuelDeOrtego: When is it going to be up again
BTC-Mining: It's selling
BTC-Mining: Not sure we're it's at right now.
BTCHero: I saw a bunch at .1 then went to buy and they weren't there
BTCHero: .01
BTC-Mining: They're sold at 0.01
BTC-Mining: It doesn't change the percent returned, but should allow to reinvest in full (or almost) each week if wanted.
BTCHero: oh, well that sucks :)
BTC-Mining: I prefer more shares for less than forcing a full bitcoin per share.
mircea_popescu: so glbse still down ?
smickles: seems so
smickles: did the deadterra thing happen?
mircea_popescu: obviously it's a lot easier to use.
mircea_popescu: no, it got killed.
smickles: really?
BTC-Mining: what deadterra thing?
mircea_popescu: exchanfge has to be up for things to happen
mircea_popescu: well ?
smickles: i suppose
smickles: but to give up entirely?
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining deadterra was going to try and offer a pass-through for s.dice on that pathetic excuse of a dysfunctional thing which they insist on the forum is "the standard"
mircea_popescu: it collected ~100 btc in fake bids which wiped when the guy put the asset out
mircea_popescu: and that was during the half hour the site was up today.
mircea_popescu: and im going to shoot the next forum fuckwit that even dares to not sing the praises of mpex.
mircea_popescu: just on general principle.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00038336 = 1.4568 BTC [-]
smickles: i'm not even an exchange and i'm 'passing thru' more than 100 btc ??!
mircea_popescu: yes.
smickles: waht happend to that forum spirit?
mircea_popescu: because "it not being on glbse is a blemish"
mircea_popescu: fucktards.
mircea_popescu: they deserve their pirate bonds. for srsly.
BTC-Mining: sing the praises of mpex? Fuck, it might be good functional wise, but any professional platform should have great user interface AND great security/performance
smickles: it's the exchange, not the brokerage
BTC-Mining: GLBSE/Mpex both have one side of the thing each, UI or performance. Both seems secure.
nefario: Not hard to be fast when hardly anyone is using it
BTC-Mining: Hopefully in the future, both of you can have UI + performance.
nefario: And fuck this country
smickles: BTC-Mining: i'll add the ui to mpex
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining get out. seriously. exchange down ? WHAT ?
smickles: i'm calling it smex
smickles: it will be my brokerage site
mircea_popescu: nefario don't even start
nefario: smeg?
mircea_popescu: your noobs need about a month to get my daily volume.
mircea_popescu: and who told you it;'s ok to have bugs in production software ?
nefario: mircea_popescu: you can roll your lips on the glory of my cokc
nefario: cock
mircea_popescu: tell me rthat. what school did you go wjere they said "production software has bugs in it"
BTC-Mining: ... are two exchange owners really fighting now?
mircea_popescu: buncha crap.
mircea_popescu: yes.
smickles: looked like it
nefario: Im in a pissy mood ATM
mircea_popescu: get of the fucken internet and come back when you can provide something that works.
smickles: (my comment to BTC-Mining)
nefario: ** shudder **
BTC-Mining: mircea, you're rolling no new features for mpex, at least try and show you can do it before criticizing.
mircea_popescu: dude. new features ?\
mircea_popescu: queue ordering ? he's implementing my features, six months late.
mircea_popescu: get out. srsly.
mircea_popescu: mine work.
smickles: ciuciu: i think he still has you on ignore
BTC-Mining: This update happens to be implemented on Mpex. But there's not that many features as far as I know on Mpex.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining such as.
smickles: are you asking BTC-Mining for a feature request?
BTC-Mining: I'm saying you could at least try to add new features and show you can do it without any bugs before criticizing.
mircea_popescu: ...
BTC-Mining: It's NOT ok to have bugs in production software, I'll have to approve that.
mircea_popescu: mpex has been running without as much as 5 minutes of downtime since launch
mircea_popescu: what part of that woudl you improve upon ?
mircea_popescu: and it's not even that i have a problem with the guy trying.
mircea_popescu: he's trying, great.
mircea_popescu: it's the forum idiots that get my goat.
BTC-Mining: Features! UI!
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7700 @ 0.00099504 = 7.6618 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: dude you say features like it's some sort of the grail. what features ?
BTC-Mining: Feeatures like better graphs, better account summary, login with 2 step auth
maximian: mircea: order history would be nice
BTC-Mining: See how you can handle the amount of traffic then.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining you have any ideea how much traffic i handle ?
mircea_popescu: cmon, for my curiosity, spout a figure.
smickles: he is the 4chan of romainia, or some such
mircea_popescu: maximian order history, how you mean ?
mircea_popescu: smickles forget that, i just mean /bitcoin/
BTC-Mining: Considering the current simple interface, probably a lot.
smickles: oh
maximian: Get a JSON dump of my transaction history
BTC-Mining: But there's not so many people using Mpex.
mircea_popescu: maximian you get that in a stat neh ?
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining you really believe that ?
smickles: ciuciu: reported whowhatnow?
maximian: mircea: not the complete history - I have to keep track of it myself
mircea_popescu: maximian you get the history since last STAT, right. the ideea kinda is that accounting is done by client.
BTC-Mining: I'm saying if you'd improve the UI, you'd bring more people to MPEX and at the same time need more processing power for each user.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining this is a non-argument.
smickles: mircea_popescu: Am i missing something, or are you saying mpex is an EXCHANGE, not a BROKER?
mircea_popescu: well yes it's an exchange
smickles: broker/exchange/accountant/fluffer
smickles: that's what I want
mircea_popescu: lol
smickles: all run by one button
mircea_popescu: maximian but anyway, you're not supposed to throwaway your stats.
mircea_popescu: you're supposed to keep em somewhere.
mircea_popescu: sort of like receipts.
mircea_popescu: when you do your accounting, you pull out your receipts and add them up.
maximian: mircea: right, but that's not immediately obvious, and not what most people would expect
mircea_popescu: ya i guess it depends what they're used to, but prolly most wouldn't.
BTC-Mining: They'd expect the platform to generate it for them.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining so ti can pull a dwolla on them
mircea_popescu: and change their accounts.
smickles: anyone know what kind of data you get with a seat on NYSE?
mircea_popescu: yes. exactly one, it would seem, me.
BTC-Mining: I mean, you would get more people. The only reason you get large volumes and big investors taking the time to do it is because of the quality of companies you allow on the platform. Plus the options.
mircea_popescu: guess oh guess.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining first and foremost the security, actually. that was there before the rest.
BTC-Mining: Aye. But options are good too.
mircea_popescu: for sure.
mircea_popescu: but if you're going to replicate it, you start with the security. then you add the availability/resilience. then the rest.
mircea_popescu: can't build houses starting at the roof.
BTC-Mining: ... Well yes and no
mircea_popescu: look. bitcoinica tried to start from the roof.
mircea_popescu: where it ended, we all knew it will end, you udnerstand ?
mircea_popescu: it's been a sort of private internal joke since winter.
BTC-Mining: But I'm pretty sure it was no hack... the way it's been handled...
mircea_popescu: one in three ?! come on. one in three musta been a hack.
BTC-Mining: Maybe
rdponticelli: Well, it's about building the houses starting from the foundations, or from the facade
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining mtgox learned this the hard way.
smickles: huh
mircea_popescu: they too stated with the roof.
rdponticelli: They're a lot of people building thing from the facade
smickles: it seems a seat on the NYSE, allows you to trade, and doesn't get you an account history
BTC-Mining: I think GLBSE was set up properly at the core. It's now rolling out new features
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli actually, seems all the pervasive marketing has got everyone convinced that that;'s how "it works". you buy a domain and wham, are entrepreneurial nao and shit.
BTC-Mining: Recently the API was moved apart from the core and it was reworked to work on multiple servers
BTC-Mining: I can't check the security internally...
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining not exactly. recently, glbse got a shot to show itself that it's not a little toy, but something that might be maybe taken seriously
smickles: about an hour to go, right?
mircea_popescu: and it completely pissed all over that.
rdponticelli: Yea, it's a sign of the times....
rdponticelli: Lots of marketing, lots of facade....
smickles: css3
rdponticelli: And very little substance
BTC-Mining: Well we'll see
mircea_popescu: smickles i got Aug 24, 2012 22:52:57 p,
mircea_popescu: pm*
BTC-Mining: Off for now.
smickles: i'm a bit excited for this :D
mircea_popescu: me too tbh.
smickles: surely nasdaq has membership
rdponticelli: I'm not talking about any particular site, but in general
smickles: i'll see if i can find what features nasdaq offers
maximian: mircea: I do like the core functionality, and the fact that mpex is fast and available.
mircea_popescu: aite.
gabbynot: any news on pirate today?
smickles: good question
smickles: gabbynot: according to this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101339.0) no
gabbynot: i gambled a bit on some cheap PPT bonds…it'd be cool if they actually pay off
gabbynot: thx
nefario: SD IPO ETA?
smickles: 33 min
smickles: iirc
nefario: 5mins
nefario: rolled back the software
Obsi: reserves again?
nefario: had to cancell all buy orders as well
nefario: yes
Obsi: oh man my buy order spam took forever
Obsi: Sounds good, I'll hang around to pay divs, thanks
rdponticelli: nefario: Are you working on offering some signed proof of ownership of shares, or some thing alike?
nefario: no
rdponticelli: Shouldn't you?
nefario: thats not what you asked
rdponticelli: No, true
rdponticelli: But that would be something....
smickles: rdponticelli: i've come to the conclusion that if you want that, each individual issuer is going to have to do that, keep a record of who has the proper claim on a share, and not be listed on an exchange of the current nature
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 2 @ 0.84 = 1.68 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 2 @ 0.84 = 1.68 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: smickles how do you reason ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 2 @ 0.84 = 1.68 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 12389 @ 0.00099573 = 12.3361 BTC [+]
smickles: mircea_popescu: if an exchange offered it, what happens if i sign my share to two different people at the same time?
smickles: that's prolly a bad example
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1095 = 0.219 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: you don't sign your share tho, you jsut get a signed cert that you own so and so shares
smickles: yeah, but what's the use of that? you wouldn't be able to sell it to someone 'off exchange', right?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1095 = 0.219 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.1186 = 0.2372 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.1186 = 0.2372 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00038452 = 0.0769 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38485 @ 0.00038475 = 14.8071 BTC [+]
smickles: and if the share isn't removed from availability to sell on the exchange, the proof of ownership at time X is meaningless, 'cause i could sell it at time X + .01
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 9 @ 0.299 = 2.691 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 9 @ 0.299 = 2.691 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: well a per-share signed cert thing is practically requiring a bicoin for each asset
mircea_popescu: which is hella expensive.
smickles: one share was just an example
smickles: it could be bundles
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 625 @ 0.0032 = 2 BTC
mircea_popescu: but how do you force ppl to buy per bundle
mircea_popescu: and if you do, then the bundle = 1 share.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10715 @ 0.00038475 = 4.1226 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21185 @ 0.00038496 = 8.1554 BTC [+]
smickles: my point with that one, is that, you want proof of ownership (for wahtever reason) without having to appeal to the exchange (maybe it's offline, or went out of business suddenly)
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 625 @ 0.0032 = 2 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 6000 @ 0.0032 = 19.2 BTC
mircea_popescu: thart doesn't work irl either.
smickles: but it can only be proof of ownership at a given time
mircea_popescu: well if exchange went out of biz then it's the proof of time at the end
mircea_popescu: proof of ownership* at the end of time i mean.
smickles: assuming you have that
nefario: smickles: you're talking about an OT based system
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 3000 @ 0.0032 = 9.6 BTC
mircea_popescu: ya, there's some guy developing something like that, i even donated
smickles: what if you had proof you owned it 1 minute before the takedown
mircea_popescu: not production ready yet.
nefario: smickles: either it's on the server or it's not
smickles: i think an individual company could do something like:
nefario: if it's not then you get a signed cert of what it was
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 625 @ 0.0032 = 2 BTC
smickles: give a signed doc saying "this is x shares of y and key ~~~~ owns it"
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0032 BTC
smickles: they keep a record of that
Lethe: nefario: internal server error when I try to buy GSDPT
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 2 @ 0.84 = 1.68 BTC [-]
smickles: then ~~~ wants to sell a nomber of shares
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1900 @ 0.0032 = 6.08 BTC
smickles: so he signes the doc 'i sold a shares to @@@@ and retained b shares'
smickles: then truns that into the issuer
smickles: and gives a copy to @@@
smickles: if it's validated by the issuer, no problem
maximian: nefario: is the order book here correct? https://glbse.com/asset/view/GSDPT
smickles: actually, the issuer would sign the doc and give it to @@@
nefario: maximian: yes
maximian: thx
BTC-Mining: How many shares for Satoshi Dice will ever be issued on GLBSE?
smickles: the max amount that can be purchased
smickles: at most
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0032 = 0.032 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC
BTC-Mining: There's millions for sale
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.68 = 4.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.68 = 4.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC
BTC-Mining: The orderbooks gets no updates
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.68 = 4.76 BTC [+]
smickles: 2 million in the first round
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 699 @ 0.00099573 = 0.696 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 50000 @ 0.0032 = 160 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 50000 @ 0.0032 = 160 BTC
smickles: then += 5
smickles: then += 3
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 300 @ 0.0032 = 0.96 BTC
BTC-Mining: lol...
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 50000 @ 0.0032 = 160 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 6000 @ 0.0032 = 19.2 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 50000 @ 0.0032 = 160 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC
BTC-Mining: I can make assbot repeat the transactions, they just don't occur...
smickles: plus, the issuer can issue a max amount more specified by the ipo agreement
smickles: did deadterra already have his buy order in?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC
mircea_popescu: alrighty folks, five minutes or less.
Jackmaninov: are any of these GSDPT trades actually happening?
BTC-Mining: No
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0032 = 0.032 BTC
BTC-Mining: all the 50000k are mine, I only have 267 BTC tho.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1900 @ 0.0032 = 6.08 BTC
BTC-Mining: Assbot records them, but the orderbooks/portfolio does not update
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.09999999 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Nefario, better put a notice up
smickles: notice?
nefario: I think the orders are not processing
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC
nefario: Im on it
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.9788 = 1.9576 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00038447 = 0.0769 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11460 @ 0.00038369 = 4.3971 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: Can't you create a copy of GLBSE on a small VPS or something for which to test rolling updates and doing those kind of testing prior to rolling it out?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 80000 @ 0.003232 = 258.56 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.003206 = 32.06 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.003206 = 160.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.003205 = 9.615 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50000 @ 0.003205 = 160.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 115000 @ 0.003201 = 368.115 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00320001 = 16.0001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 90000 @ 0.00320001 = 288.0009 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 25000 @ 0.0032 = 80 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0032 = 16 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 193648 @ 0.0032 = 619.6736 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400000 @ 0.0032 = 1280 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100000 @ 0.0032 = 320 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2475 @ 0.0032 = 7.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4900 @ 0.0032 = 15.68 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200000 @ 0.0032 = 640 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 31250 @ 0.0032 = 100 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6683 @ 0.0032 = 21.3856 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1095 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.09999999 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: and we're live.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 19 @ 0.1 = 1.9 BTC [+]
Jackmaninov: well, dood's rich
BTC-Mining: I can see that...
BTC-Mining: Almost all sold already eheh
BTC-Mining: When's the next round?
mircea_popescu: same time tomorro
Jackmaninov: how many BTC raised this round?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0032 BTC
mircea_popescu: so far ~4.x k something
mircea_popescu: !ticker S.dice
assbot: Invalid ticker.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.9788 = 1.9576 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.979 = 4.895 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.98 = 2.94 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 18 @ 0.9839 = 17.7102 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 7 @ 0.984 = 6.888 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: !ticker S.DICE
smickles: py 1372956 * .0032
assbot: Invalid ticker.
mircea_popescu: mmm that's odd
smickles: .py 1372956 * .0032
markac: 4393.4592
mircea_popescu: !ticker s.dice
Jackmaninov: biggest IPO so far?
assbot: Invalid ticker.
mircea_popescu: wth assbot! kakobrekla !!! halp
mircea_popescu: Jackmaninov possibly.
smickles: .py (1372956 * .0032) * .998
markac: 4384.6722816
Jackmaninov: cue the next round of news coverage.... :P
smickles: !ticker S.DICE
assbot: Invalid ticker.
smickles: well, i tried
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: i think it must be in a db
maximian: Still 627044 shares on the table
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu, its not in http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex-vwap.php
smickles: pwnd
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 20000 @ 0.0032 = 64 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: aww oops. brb
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46940 @ 0.00038369 = 18.0104 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9360 @ 0.00038336 = 3.5882 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0032 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 300 @ 0.0032 = 0.96 BTC
mircea_popescu: !ticker s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00320236 / 0.003232 (1392956 shares, 4,460.76 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00320236 / 0.003232 (1392956 shares, 4,460.76 BTC)
mircea_popescu: ty kakobrekla ! you fixed it !
kakobrekla: :p
Jackmaninov: zomg, trade happened
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 999 @ 0.0032 = 3.1968 BTC
Jackmaninov: i gots my 300 shares :P
kakobrekla: somebody save some money for smpake
mircea_popescu: jesus a mosquito went up my nostril
mircea_popescu: wth!
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0032 = 0.064 BTC
BTC-Mining: I hate that too
Jackmaninov: GSDPT asks go bye bye
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 20 @ 0.86 = 17.2 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: I don't see the bot relaying the trade
smickles: which bot?
smickles: assbot?
mircea_popescu: wow asks got wiped ?
BTC-Mining: yeah
mircea_popescu: o, there were only 50k of them huh
BTC-Mining: No more ask on GLBSE
BTC-Mining: Yeah, just a little passthrough
mircea_popescu: where is deadterra lol
mircea_popescu: anyone got his cell/email/etc ?
BTC-Mining: I wonder
kakobrekla: 02:10.26 ( BTC-Mining ) I don't see the bot relaying the trade
kakobrekla: nothing on the twitter
BTC-Mining: MBOT relayed the trade, not assbot
kakobrekla: o?
BTC-Mining: from #bitcoin-shares
kakobrekla: lemme see
kakobrekla: what i have in teh logs
BTC-Mining: [20:07] <`MBot> [ GLBSE ] [ ~TRADE ] [ GSDPT ] [ 47679 @ 0.0032 = 152.5728 ]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00038336 = 1.8785 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00038278 = 8.3829 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ya that's right, sell me :( haters!
Jackmaninov: ok, so i guess all those trades for GSDPT 20 minutes ago went through?
Jackmaninov: or at least some of them?
mircea_popescu: i think BTC-Mining just wiped it a minute ago.
BTC-Mining: Nah, only just now they started going through
Jackmaninov: well someone has 47679 of them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4500 @ 0.0032 = 14.4 BTC [-]
Jackmaninov: unless deadterra cranked his ask price
BTC-Mining: I doubt he'd do that...
BTC-Mining: He sells at MPEX price
BTC-Mining: and take 5%
smickles: lol, that's a [-]
kakobrekla: after GLBSE: trade:20@0.0032:GSDPT:1345853241, twitter feed went down, apparently my timeout is longer than mbots (90 seconds)
smickles: BTC-Mining: to be clear, that's 5% of the dividend, right?
mircea_popescu: smickles yea
smickles: how does twitter's new api affect us here
BTC-Mining: yes smickles
smickles: glbse/assbot/mbot?
BTC-Mining: Is deadterra issuing more shares for next rounds? Maybe I can buy them up
smickles: like, not being allowed to display twitter content along side non twitter content < new rule
mircea_popescu: smickles what's that ?!
mircea_popescu: it ain't frigging "twitter content" its my content.
mircea_popescu: wtf.
smickles: yeah, let me find the exact wording
smickles: so, assbot/mbot are considered twitter apps per twitter
BTC-Mining: He's speaking about the twitter feed for GLBSE
BTC-Mining: well not sure if yours use that too?
mircea_popescu: well i guess someone will have to write a rss parser and parse my rss
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining yea
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu lol
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla wha! parse my rsssss!
kakobrekla: never!
kakobrekla: meh fuck twitter
smickles: oh yeah
smickles: authentication will be required to poll the api
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8500 @ 0.00099504 = 8.4578 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2335 @ 0.00099438 = 2.3219 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: my bot should be authed
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla tbh i'd much rather i went off twitter. i dun like them
smickles: 350 call per hour
mircea_popescu: and it won't scale too well in the future anyway
kakobrekla: im plugged into stream
kakobrekla: so
kakobrekla: do we need a platform for this
nefario: GLBSE is back to normal
smickles: apps will be required to display retweet/reply/favorite
smickles: ^killer
kakobrekla: yeah
kakobrekla: but
kakobrekla: that will be only for big apps
kakobrekla: noone will give a shit for #bitcoin-assets
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i seriosuly say twitter won't scale.
kakobrekla: unless we hit 10k users
Chaang-Noi: so whats up with priate debt?
Chaang-Noi: or pirte and repayment lol
Chaang-Noi: i see shares are way low
BTC-Mining: thanks nefario...
nefario: np
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu, well i guess we will cross that bridge when we come to it
smickles: bah, i can't continue to recite the new twitter rules, my wife wants to drink and watch america's next top model
kakobrekla: poor smick.
mircea_popescu: you watch babes with wife ?
BTC-Mining: Can't you have a testing platform like testing.glbse.com with all features working? Placed on another server with a backup of the current GLBSE, where me and others here could go and go crazy on doing transactions and whatnot to test new features?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 7 @ 0.1095 = 0.7665 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: I volunteer to take part in those
Chaang-Noi: did all the bids on glbse get cleared??
smickles: basically, twitter is trying to put the 'keebash' on syndication
smickles: which es exactly assbot
BTC-Mining: Chaang-Noi, yes
Chaang-Noi: lol why?
nefario: BTC-Mining: I did, you don't think that I tested the new version?
nefario: At first ran it on a separate server
nefario: when I moved it to the current machine
BTC-Mining: I supposed so, but seems we still encountered issues
nefario: wouldn't work
BTCHero: glbse says my password is incorrect
nefario: then ran it alongside the current server
BTCHero: is it back up and running?
nefario: BTCHero: yes, whats your username?
BTC-Mining: I mean, with an actual backup of current GLBSE state put on a testing servers and letting us know, we could further mess with multiple transactions.
nefario: you might need to reset
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 200 @ 0.1 = 20 BTC [+]
BTCHero: BTCHero
BTC-Mining: ?
nefario: BTC-Mining: you don't see a lot of problems until you launch the system live
nefario: In testing I didn't have any issues with deadlock
BTC-Mining: Wouldn't using a full backup and letting a few dozen of us go crazy on it help tho seeing how it would behave live?
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 10 @ 0.72 = 7.2 BTC [+]
nefario: possibly
BTCHero: I reset my password and i still can't get in
BTC-Mining: I wouldn't mind helping along others do that
BTC-Mining: Could get in right away =/
BTC-Mining: You sure you're not mixing a character up in that password?
BTCHero: i don't know, I will try it again
nefario: BTCHero try logging in now
BTCHero: ok now it works
assbot: [GLBSE] [BLUECHIP] 28 @ 0.1 = 2.8 BTC
BTC-Mining: shouldn't the new reserve less balance be implemented now?
BTC-Mining: Wasn't it what you were rolling out?
nefario: no
BTC-Mining: Oh =P
nefario: I was rolling out a sytem that uses locking
nefario: allowing multiple servers to access account balances
nefario: without writing over each others stuff
nefario: I've been using queues for a lost of GLBSE stuff since GLBSE 2.0 first launched
nefario: moved more over to that method
BTC-Mining: oh, great
BTC-Mining: We'll need more servers servicing the platform eh
nefario: We'll I've got another dedi just for the DB
nefario: but it's not going to happen without being able to run multiple application servers
Chaang-Noi: people are buying pirate debt at .72 interesting
nefario: which isn't happening without locking sorted
nefario: Chaang-Noi: whats the story with that piotr guy?
Chaang-Noi: heis a crazy troll
nefario: seems so
Chaang-Noi: he has gone to allmy threads and made FUD
Chaang-Noi: he thought he had me on something and went nuts
nefario: he's been having a go at me since I didn't agree with him
Chaang-Noi: then when you did not back him up, when relly nuts
Chaang-Noi: that transfer was coin going back to a guy who sent to me
nefario: I don't really care
nefario: it's before the time pirate announced
Chaang-Noi: the guy wanted me to buy them, so i said send to me, when i pay dividends ill send you the interes and the coins, but then pirate defaulted so the guy was like i want them back to sell on the open market
BTC-Mining: I showed him wrong about one of his claims.
Chaang-Noi: i said okay, here you go
Chaang-Noi: and paidt he fee to send back
Chaang-Noi: then i bought 800 plus bonds...
Chaang-Noi: that guy was just a fail cat...
Chaang-Noi: ill post some copy and paste dates and shit from glbse once i get home
Chaang-Noi: im still not homer
Chaang-Noi: home*
kakobrekla: > 02:42.26 ( Chaang-Noi ) im still not homer
Chaang-Noi: that guy owes me an apology
kakobrekla: homer. :)
Chaang-Noi: :)
Chaang-Noi: fucking phone
nefario: Chaang-Noi: good luck getting one
kakobrekla: i ment 'Homer'.
kakobrekla: but yeah.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 9 @ 0.118 = 1.062 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: he said he would, so we will see
Chaang-Noi: he has been calling me all sorts of names and so
Chaang-Noi: iv done nothing at all wrong
BTC-Mining: You can reason with piotr, I recall he apologized in PPT's thread
Chaang-Noi: im updet i cant ban people like that from my threads
BTC-Mining: But yeah, he's inquisitive
Chaang-Noi: he is an asshole
Chaang-Noi: he called me names and said i was doing all sorts of evil shit with no proff
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 1 @ 0.099 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Until you can make him realize there's a mistake in his reasoning.
BTC-Mining: Then he apologize...
Chaang-Noi: he has attacked me in every bond thread i have
Chaang-Noi: and he attacked nefario for some aood reason
Chaang-Noi: like nefario and i have this scam going lol
BTCHero: so all bids got erased right?
nefario: I know, we're like twins
agath: locking is always dangerous
nefario: yes
Chaang-Noi: matthew moved his bet limit up to 1000 btc hmm
agath: but most databases support transactions...
nefario: agath: As I've learned the hard way
agath: that should be the good choice if your architecture allows it
agath: but I don't know anything more than what I can see from the web service so I think I can't give you any hint, I guess you know better.. :-)
nefario: I don't see how transactions handle concurrent access to a resource that shouldn't be ..concurrently accessed
nefario: like if I run more than one app server
agath: when you start a transaction, the database guarantees data integrity
BTC-Mining: Chaang-Noi, you mean 10000BTC?
agath: even if the operation is made from different hosts
BTC-Mining: Been like that for a while
nefario: then you'll get a situation where the other server has stale data
Chaang-Noi: i mena per person
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: it was 100 then 250 now atleast 1000 perperson
agath: how? anyway I don't know your architecture enough.. so I can't say...
BTC-Mining: Oh that, he accepted larger bids from hedgers that had capital owned by pirate.
agath: anyway if it can be done with locks I think it should be doable with transactions too
Chaang-Noi: matthews faith made me buy more bonds
BTC-Mining: So if pirate paid, they owed some or all of it to him.
Chaang-Noi: im sure he knows somehting
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: Well if pirate doesn't pay... He'd better pay up
Chaang-Noi: however iv been buying bonds under .5 something mathew cant do unless he had btc lol
Chaang-Noi: i think its a bluff i dont think matthew has the 10,000 bt
Chaang-Noi: btc
BTC-Mining: Even Theymos bet against pirate
mircea_popescu: he prolly got a personal loan of credit :D
BTC-Mining: Well, see it that way...
Chaang-Noi: im not so sure...
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.ABMO] 180 @ 0.08 = 14.4 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: The community would get really pissed if he doesn't pay up and he's bluffing.
BTCHero: and we will all be like, hey dude that wasn't cool
BTC-Mining: Since you two don't like each other, I think you wouldn't mind either cases.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.118 = 0.236 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: matthew has been borrowing money
Chaang-Noi: he wil clearly be forced to leave, no way he has 100k btc
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0045 = 0.225 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i mean 100k usd
Chaang-Noi: he might however have a backer
Chaang-Noi: will be interesting to see
mircea_popescu: the guy has at least three backers.
mircea_popescu: like any self respecting call girl.
Chaang-Noi: lol
nefario: any of you see that pic of him wiping off makup?
Chaang-Noi: lol no
mircea_popescu: nope
nefario: its on one of the reddit threads
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell deadterra you really need to put more shares up.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BTC-Mining: Is everyone in the BTC community mad/crazy/psycho/paranoid/other variant?
nefario: http://i.imgur.com/zvxAq.jpg
nefario: ^^ MNW with lady boys taking off makup ^^
mircea_popescu: those ARE ladyboys aren't they
nefario: you being the expert
mircea_popescu: i have no ideea
mircea_popescu: not many in yurp.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BBBB] 1 @ 0.00399 BTC [+]
nefario: if I was to forward an educated guess, I'd say that it's MNW getting ready for an appearance on a korean TV show as the guess foreigner
BTC-Mining: Well I wouldn't see a problem to that =/
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5300 @ 0.00098344 = 5.2122 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 200 @ 0.0001195 = 0.0239 BTC [+]
smickles: evoorhees is gone! let's Party!
mircea_popescu: lol
smickles: O-O
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 189 @ 0.00340293 = 0.6432 BTC [-]
smickles: i feel icky
mircea_popescu: 4k
smickles: like i've take a breath from the other side of too nosey
mircea_popescu: why do you feel icky ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 15 @ 0.117999 = 1.77 BTC [-]
smickles: as if i was looking into someone's personal finances
mircea_popescu: lol. bitcoin. public transactions.
mircea_popescu: can you see it tho ?
smickles: yeah
smickles: it's all fine in the abstract
smickles: but when i can reasonably assume that a give tx is someone's, i dunno, it has a different emotional weight to it
smickles: s/give/given/
smickles: silly emotions :P
mircea_popescu: :p
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: anywho, assbot fixed so it shouldnt be shipping a twit again
kakobrekla: off i go, nite
kakobrekla: skipping*
seller: lol at me i need assets
seller: dont have BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.1289 BTC [+]
seller: kakobrekla: can u donate a few assets?
nefario: Does someone want to try the 2factor auth on GLBSE
nefario: I've changed the timing on it so it should be easier to use
seller: nefario: can you transfer a few assets?
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
seller: im stuck my rig is only 0.06BTC/24h
assbot: [GLBSE] [PLATINUM] 75 @ 0.00999999 = 0.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PLATINUM] 25 @ 0.01 = 0.25 BTC [+]
MadSweeney: nefario, i was able to log in fine with 2factor auth
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.1095 = 0.219 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 3 @ 0.55 = 1.65 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0032 = 16 BTC [-]
MadSweeney: nefario, but withdrawal is delayed
BTC-Mining: Was already working for me, except when GLBSE is slow
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 12000 @ 0.0032 = 38.4 BTC [-]
nefario: MadSweeney: should be processed soon
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41500 @ 0.00038278 = 15.8854 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00038256 = 9.7553 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00038253 = 11.5524 BTC [-]
seller: btc-mining transfer me a few shares i wont waste the fund because i need this gsxr750 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/2006_gsxr750.jpg "on9isrock" lol at myself
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30600 @ 0.00038149 = 11.6736 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60100 @ 0.00038065 = 22.8771 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00038024 = 4.6009 BTC [-]
MadSweeney: nefario, thanks
seller: .////myself ignore
BTC-Mining: Hey, go beg elsewhere =P
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.649 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0045 = 0.045 BTC [+]
seller: i am over
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 940 @ 0.0045 = 4.23 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol people are speculating gsdpt i see
mircea_popescu: why would anyone pay 45 ?
smickles: hmm
smickles: better: why would someone think it's worth .0045, 'cause i currently don't
_locust_: novelty effect
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 200 @ 0.0054 = 1.08 BTC [+]
smickles: could be, it was a small amo... *drool*
smickles: 54?
smickles: .py 54/45
markac: 1
mircea_popescu: lol srsly.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34721 @ 0.00038143 = 13.2436 BTC [+]
_locust_: those 1000 sold @ 45 were mine!
smickles: .py 54/45.0
markac: 1.2
mircea_popescu: deadterra needs to show up.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 90 @ 0.0058 = 0.522 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DI.BFLSC.SUCCEED] 2 @ 0.001 = 0.002 BTC
smickles: i clearly don't understand the world all that well
smickles: .py 58/32.0
markac: 1.8125
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [-]
smickles: not a bad gain, even if for .5btc
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 80 @ 0.0058 = 0.464 BTC [+]
smickles: er, nearly 1 now
_locust_: bought 1000 @ 34 , sold @ 45... in 1 hour or so
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.333 BTC [-]
nefario: _locust_: thats good right?
BTC-Mining: 33% gain almost it seems
mod6: oh thats DeaDTerra
smickles: yeah
_locust_: yeah!!!!
mod6: 's pass through
nefario: 33% gain ON GLBSE
mod6: I see :}
mircea_popescu: he's awol lol
Chaang-Noi: thanks for that photo nefario
Chaang-Noi: oh lulz
smickles: now if we see .0058 on mpex, i'll piss this couch
nefario: you like it?
BTC-Mining: MPEx is very good... just doesn't have an UI
nefario: some random person posted it on reddit
nefario: in a comment
BTC-Mining: link?
nefario: http://i.imgur.com/zvxAq.jpg
smickles: http://i.imgur.com/zvxAq.jpg
smickles: ack, my lastlog skillz arn't up to par
BTC-Mining: I meant the reddit link?
BTC-Mining: ah, nevermind
seller: is him merlin?
Chaang-Noi: just think its funny seeing matthew getting dressed before getting pimped out for the night
smickles: merlin?
smickles: Chaang-Noi: you should see me, i have much more hair to manage
Chaang-Noi: :)
smickles: ;x
seller: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0B_aegagq5A/TY9eTqX8DLI/AAAAAAAAAg0/dKVWM2Gan7k/s1600/Colin-Morgan+%25281%2529.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zvxAq.jpg
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.50020001 = 1.0004 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.50010001 = 2.0004 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [CBGB] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: o look who's here
BTC-Mining: hey DeaDTerra
smickles: dt, dt, there's action to be had!
DeaDTerra: guys selling asicminer fot 0.03BTC
BTC-Mining: No more asks fot GSDPT
mircea_popescu: DeaDTerra GSDPT is sold out, put more asks
DeaDTerra: only 2000 shares
assbot: [GLBSE] [BLUECHIP] 65 @ 0.1 = 6.5 BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.9409 BTC [+]
smickles: guys buying gsdpt at .0058
Jackmani_: mmmmm, profit :D
smickles: small, but true
BTC-Mining: There's no ASICMINER for 0.03BTC?
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 3 @ 1.0799 = 3.2397 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 2 @ 1.08 = 2.16 BTC [+]
smickles: it was only a couple btc worth of gsdpt
smickles: ppt is back over 1?
smickles: since when?
smickles: !ticker ppt.a
mircea_popescu: !ticker ppt.a
assbot: [GLBSE:PPT.A] [Bid: 0.1] [Ask: 1.08] [Spread: 0.98] [Last: 1.08] [24hVol: 5.3997] [7dAvg: 1.1026]
assbot: [GLBSE:PPT.A] [Bid: 0.1] [Ask: 1.08] [Spread: 0.98] [Last: 1.08] [24hVol: 5.3997] [7dAvg: 1.1026]
BTC-Mining: PPT never dropped under 1?
mircea_popescu: it was .98 but thats it
smickles: oh, it's insured-ish, isn't it
BTC-Mining: that's the spread
BTC-Mining: only for 0.32 BTC
mircea_popescu: 24hVol: 5.3997
mircea_popescu: it's irrelevant-ish i'd say
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.984 = 3.936 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell assbot !ticker GSDPT
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.941 = 1.882 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0045 = 0.09 BTC [-]
smickles: so someone in the s.dice thread was predicting larger volume in gsdpt than s.dice (i assume less the gsdpt volume on s.dice)
mircea_popescu: did they bet ?
BTC-Mining: no way, gsdpt had like only 50000 shares up for sale...
smickles: that happened ‽
BTC-Mining: s,dice sold almost 2 million instantly
mircea_popescu: !ticker S.DICE
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00320233 / 0.003232 (1414456 shares, 4,529.56 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00320233 / 0.003232 (1414456 shares, 4,529.56 BTC)
mircea_popescu: !ticker GSDPT
assbot: [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.0045] [Ask: 0.0065] [Spread: 0.002] [Last: 0.0045] [24hVol: 166.656] [7dAvg: 0.0041]
BTC-Mining: ja...
smickles: that's less than 2 orders of magnitude, right? we should just give it to the guy
rdponticelli: They're already bidding 0.0045?
smickles: at waht depth
Jackmani_: bots gotta bot
smickles: 370ish
smickles: .py 370 * .0045
markac: 1.665
smickles: yeah, thought so
rdponticelli: If it's a bot, somebody programmed the thing...
smickles: ^
smickles: my bots have only ever done what i wanted them to do
smickles: 'i' being a human being
rdponticelli: Yea, that's the point
Jackmani_: inc
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.0045 = 0.135 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [-]
smickles: (dude, i'm just backing you up ;)
smickles: a good sell there, imo
Jackmani_: easiest $6 i ever made
smickles: let's say that was 1 minute of wortk
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 20 @ 0.1 = 2 BTC [-]
smickles: isn't that about 360 anhour?
smickles: not bad
rdponticelli: Who keeps buying ppt.div?
Jackmani_: 0.6 BTC profit on 0.96 BTC invested, can I be the next pirate?!? :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC [-]
smickles: why does it count unchanged as a [-]
Jackmani_: trading sideways?
smickles: [-] is down according to assbot
smickles: is sideways
smickles: oh
smickles: it's down from the average
rdponticelli: There was some higher bids, so 0.0032 is lower
smickles: what average, i don't know
smickles: no one has yet needed to pay over 0.0032 :/
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: why isn't DeaDTerra putting more out ?
Jackmani_: because he's not a magic man?
mircea_popescu: smickles some peoplepaid more for top position i guess
smickles: they only paid more inorder to not pay attention, i guess
mircea_popescu: ya prolly didn't want to come home and discover they didn't fill.
smickles: but still, that was only .0034 or so, right?
mircea_popescu: o, no, ity was like 1% premium tops
mircea_popescu: 0.0032 / 0.00320233 / 0.003232
mircea_popescu: avg paid is actually 320233
smickles: in 'merica we say 'yeah, shit yeah' to that
smickles: you know why we say that?
smickles: i dunno
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 500 @ 0.00098344 = 0.4917 BTC [-]
smickles: most of us don't know what we're doing any way
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10900 @ 0.00097697 = 10.649 BTC [-]
smickles: hey mircea_popescu, that candide is a decent read
mircea_popescu: yw.
smickles: i haven't finished yet tho
smickles: but my 9 mo. old daughter practically dances to me reading it to her like it's disco in the 70's
mircea_popescu: :)
mircea_popescu: i was gonna say, it's great for a read for kids.
smickles: heh, i dunno french but for a toads anus in pittsburg, so can you tell me if candide is related to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candida_(genus)
smickles: ( i mean the word/name, that is)
mircea_popescu: tis not.
mircea_popescu: other than in the sense candidate is connected to both of them
mircea_popescu: candens, candeo is latin for glimmer, shine
assbot: [MPEX] [O.HASH.C10TH] 150000 @ 0.00000025 = 0.0375 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.HASH.C10TH] 150000 @ 0.00000032 = 0.048 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: thus, in the sense of purity, it yields candour, and so Candide.
hctib: hey smickles
mircea_popescu: in the sense of whiteness, the name of the fungus
hctib: just a sec
smickles: see, that makes more sence
smickles: *sense
smickles: hctib: yes?
mircea_popescu: and in the sense of chalkening (of the togas), an ancient tradition, the word for candidate.
Rothgar: hello
smickles: howdy :D
smickles: mircea_popescu: spoil one thing for me, does candide ever come around to the idea that perpetual optimism isn't such a good thing?
mircea_popescu: yes.
Rothgar: does anyone want to explain to me how puts work on mpex?
mircea_popescu: sure.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 344 @ 0.0045 = 1.548 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: a put is the right to sell btc art the specified price, the strike.
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.9001 = 3.6004 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 8 @ 0.9 = 7.2 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so if you own P100 you can sell btc at 10
Rothgar: how does one write puts?
smickles: mkopt
Rothgar: what payment is the "sell at 10" in? PPUSD MTGOXUSD
mircea_popescu: there's a special order for that, you first need to create the put
mircea_popescu: rothgar : bitcoins.
Rothgar: Say I exercise the put at 10 when bitcoin is trading at 8 what happens?
mircea_popescu: you get 2 / 8 = .25 btc per put.
Rothgar: ok, I wondered how the FRNs work into it. They don't
mircea_popescu: FRN = ?
Rothgar: Federal Reserve Note = USD
mircea_popescu: o, the fiat ? does not. mpex is entirely btc based.
BTC-Mining: [22:17] <BTC-Mining> 2000 shares for 0.03?
BTC-Mining: [22:19] <DeaDTerra> my shares and i dont want profits
BTC-Mining: [22:20] <BTC-Mining> So you're selling 2000 for 0.03 you say hmm?
BTC-Mining: [22:20] <DeaDTerra> limited time
BTC-Mining: [22:20] <BTC-Mining> Why so low?
BTC-Mining: [22:20] <BTC-Mining> I'll take them I guess
BTC-Mining: [22:21] <DeaDTerra> im not taking any profit
BTC-Mining: [22:23] <DeaDTerra> good if you taking them
BTC-Mining: [22:23] <DeaDTerra> too much profit for me
BTC-Mining: [22:24] <BTC-Mining> I never heard of such a thing as too much profit
BTC-Mining: [22:24] <BTC-Mining> Taking them
BTC-Mining: [22:27] <BTC-Mining> Want to trade them now?
BTC-Mining: [22:32] <DeaDTerra> please send to 1ARYy8FLegMYLSfFdGZ4Vo2UXPMBU1AnAe and give me your username
BTC-Mining: [22:33] <BTC-Mining> Eh, mind at least authing on the otc so I know it's really you?
EmanuelDeOrtego: ;;seen nefario
gribble: nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 36 minutes and 47 seconds ago: <nefario> http://i.imgur.com/zvxAq.jpg
BTC-Mining: We need like gribble + gpg authing in here now it seems
EmanuelDeOrtego: I have a feeling I am not going to see my IPO for awhile.
smickles: fake DeaDTerra ?
BTC-Mining: aye
smickles: no wai
smickles: good catch
mircea_popescu: smickles me too.
BTC-Mining: If we could login in here, would help
BTC-Mining: I suppose
mircea_popescu: course we can login duh
mircea_popescu: ;;eauth mircea_popescu
gribble: Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@trilema/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
EmanuelDeOrtego: nefario: Tell me when you reject/approve my IPO. Thanks.
smickles: BTC-Mining: you mean, the little + to our nicks?
BTC-Mining: oh, gribble is already in here
smickles: ;;ident
gribble: You are identified as user smickles, with GPG key id EA62D7CEB2450C3F, key fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6
smickles: :>
BTC-Mining: ;;voiceme
smickles: i'm bonafide
BTC-Mining: eh
Rothgar: ;;ident
gribble: You are not identified.
smickles: does DeaDTerra not have the freenode nick protection?
Rothgar: I'm not bonafide :(
smickles: 'cause that's bad if he does
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 620 @ 0.12403214 = 76.8999 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8800 @ 0.00097697 = 8.5973 BTC [-]
Rothgar: ;;identify Rothgar
gribble: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4221 @ 0.00097684 = 4.1232 BTC [-]
Rothgar: ;;eauth Rothgar
gribble: Request successful for user Rothgar, hostmask Rothgar!d8aac070@gateway/web/freenode/ip. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/4FB28DD8EA18EA0A
smickles: it's "ident"
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 315 @ 0.06132533 = 19.3175 BTC [+]
smickles: (that is , it's ident if you have already authed)
mircea_popescu: !ticker O.BTCUSD.C100T
assbot: [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1day: 0.05418994 / 0.05622657 / 0.06132533 (1115 shares, 62.69 BTC), 30day: 0.03939127 / 0.11498062 / 0.31160906 (7192 shares, 826.94 BTC)
BTC-Mining: Looks like not
mircea_popescu: that's so silly.
BTC-Mining: I use the freenode nick protection
smickles: i have it on a couple of nicks
EmanuelDeOrtego: ;;later nefario check your IPOs.
gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "nefario" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
Rothgar: ;;ident
gribble: You are identified as user Rothgar, with GPG key id 4FB28DD8EA18EA0A, key fingerprint 4BF10B4D89E0A466BA83328D4FB28DD8EA18EA0A, and bitcoin address None
mircea_popescu: later tell.
smickles: later tell,
smickles: ha
Rothgar: I'm bonefied :) :)
smickles: :D
smickles: \o/
EmanuelDeOrtego: ;;later tell nefario check your IPOs. I ordered one 3 or so days ago. Thanks.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
smickles: ;;voiceme only works in -otc as far as i know
gribble: (voiceme takes no arguments) -- Gives you voice on #bitcoin-otc if you qualify.
Rothgar: ;;voiceme
Rothgar: it worked
smickles: cross chanel?
Rothgar: yep
smickles: interesting
mircea_popescu: he just needs to hear it and for you to be there
smickles: i wonder if that alludes to a venerability
mircea_popescu: since you can do it in pm i dun see why
smickles: good point
Rothgar: I don't see any venerability
smickles: i vaugely recall seing that part of the code anyway
smickles: iirc, it's very specific
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 1000 @ 0.06139656 = 61.3966 BTC [-]
smickles: so basically , someone has hacked an account with asicminer in it
smickles: be on the lookout peeps
mircea_popescu: don't tell me ?! session stolen ?
smickles: or just a bad pw
BTC-Mining: smickles, no.....
smickles: it only takes a day at THE MOST to crack an 8 character pw
smickles: oh
smickles: BTC-Mining: that's what i took from your past
smickles: e
assbot: [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 4 @ 1.04 = 4.16 BTC [-]
BTC-Mining: Someone just pretends to be DeaDTerra and sell his shares... he wants funds sent first to a BTC address
BTC-Mining: I don't think he has access to any account
smickles: oooooooohhhhhh
Chaang-Noi: oh lol
Chaang-Noi: i was wondering why it was so low
BTC-Mining: Just that DeaDTerra has not made an account on freenode to block users to use his password
BTC-Mining: to use his username*
mircea_popescu: silly, that.
Chaang-Noi: yeah that sucks
Chaang-Noi: iv been scared of that myslef
Chaang-Noi: but then again, i never send first, lol
Chaang-Noi: unless its to a glbse account with a name i know
BTC-Mining: I don't mind sending first...
BTC-Mining: if the person is gpg authed in the otc and I know that person
BTC-Mining: as trustable
BTC-Mining: but I'd expect to send to the guy's GLBSE account first
Diablo-D3: BTC-Mining: does deadterra even know freenode has a nickserv?
mircea_popescu: does the btc faucet still exist ?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 1 @ 0.22413738 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [THUNDERCM.MIF.SHARES] 5 @ 0.4207 = 2.1035 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 1000 @ 0.06082057 = 60.8206 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.26058, Best ask: 10.38623, Bid-ask spread: 0.12565, Last trade: 10.26058, 24 hour volume: 102761, 24 hour low: 9.852, 24 hour high: 10.62611
BTC-Mining: I don't know, Diablo-D3
Diablo-D3: many irc users dont even know there IS a nickser
Diablo-D3: *serv
Diablo-D3: let alone that some networks dont have one
Rothgar: A year ago someone was messing with my nick. I had to register it.
Rothgar: a year and 19 weeks ago
Diablo-D3: Rothgar: man thats nothing
Diablo-D3: I was one of the first nicks registered on freenode (which wasnt even called freenode at the time)...
Diablo-D3: and lilo, the founder of the network, deregistered my nick
Rothgar: wow
Diablo-D3: he didnt like the fact I exposed his non-profit fraud
Rothgar: I see 5 or 6 years wow
Diablo-D3: yeah I ended up reregistering it after he died
mircea_popescu: links ?
Rothgar: Ohh
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: for what
mircea_popescu: well this story.
Diablo-D3: Rothgar: freenode used to be called opn and used to be called linpeople before that
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: huh?
mircea_popescu: lilo dereged your name ?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: why would there be a link?
mircea_popescu: sounds like a dramaworthy thing
bitfoo: oh fuck
Diablo-D3: oh, it was quite full of drama, no doubt about that
bitfoo: S.DICE didn't sell out?
mircea_popescu: bitfoo not yet.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: the fun part is when I used tor to take down the network :D
bitfoo: ok
mircea_popescu: tor ?!
Diablo-D3: ahh, to be young again
mircea_popescu: are you nuts tor is recent lol
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah, I used an unpatched bug to use tor nodes to repeat an attack
Diablo-D3: yes, this was about 6 or 7 years ago
Rothgar: bitfoo no
mircea_popescu: freenode dates back to 1994 or 1995 iirc
bitfoo: yeah, I kinda expected it to
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: 1994
mircea_popescu: tor is from like 2003 ?
Diablo-D3: but it was called linpeople at the time
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7507 @ 0.00098641 = 7.405 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6012 @ 0.00099573 = 5.9863 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2500 @ 0.00099696 = 2.4924 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: he didnt start this shit until about 6 years ago
Diablo-D3: where he was using his non-proift to steal money from users
Rothgar: bitfoo there's about 150k of demand at GLBSE https://glbse.com/asset/view/GSDPT
mircea_popescu: levin died i think 6 yearsa ago
Diablo-D3: I exposed it, he had a problem with it, so I had a problem with the network remaining to be up
mircea_popescu: wasn't it 2006 ?
bitfoo: Rothgar, so why doesn't DeadTerra just arbitrage that out?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 1000 @ 0.06077014 = 60.7701 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: bitfoo he's awol.
Diablo-D3: lilo died in september of 2006
bitfoo: ah
Rothgar: I don't know, maybe sleeping ?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: so, what happened is, I could max out the tcp send buffer on the tor end point
Diablo-D3: and then disconnect, and the tor node would still flush the buffer
mircea_popescu: ouch
Diablo-D3: so I could rapidly connect, flood, and disconnect, without seeing most of the spam repeated to me
Diablo-D3: then I just put a few hundred bots in popular channels
Diablo-D3: like #gentoo
Diablo-D3: and #gentoo is about as big now as it was then
Diablo-D3: so the network would amplify the attack
mircea_popescu: pity the software is about as sucky :D
Diablo-D3: I turned 768/128 dsl into a 100mbps attack.
Diablo-D3: tor fixed the bug shortly after
Diablo-D3: but it did what it needed to, lilo had to admit to stealing from the users
mircea_popescu: i never heard of htis.
Diablo-D3: it was never really documented
Diablo-D3: then some random mexican in a stolen car ran him over
Diablo-D3: which made the entire thing moot
Rothgar: so the moral is not to get run over ?
mod6: wow, i haven't heard from lilo in years. and he died?! :(
Diablo-D3: mod6: yup, died
Diablo-D3: although, the hilarity is
Diablo-D3: people tried to blame nenolod for it
mod6: im still kinda blown away by all that. i had no idea.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100T] 1000 @ 0.06072477 = 60.7248 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: christel is now running the show
Diablo-D3: and lilo's brother has been helping out periodically
Diablo-D3: (whos some rich lawyer dude, lilo was the black sheep of his family)
mod6: ole' lilo`
mod6: anyway, thx for filling me in Diablo-D3
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.23179, Best ask: 10.349, Bid-ask spread: 0.11721, Last trade: 10.349, 24 hour volume: 102047, 24 hour low: 9.852, 24 hour high: 10.62611
BTC-Mining: Indeed
Diablo-D3: I kinda miss him
Diablo-D3: but I sorta dont
BTC-Mining: @Rothgar
Diablo-D3: I mean, I offered to help him dig himself out of the hole he put himself in
Diablo-D3: and he said no
Diablo-D3: so freenode decided that it would be ddossed for a few days.
mod6: I wasn't aware of any of that stuff I guess. :/
mircea_popescu: mod6 exactly what i said.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 290 @ 0.0035 = 1.015 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: whoa
mircea_popescu: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/01/29/buy_a_piece_of_net/
mircea_popescu: it IS documented.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: so it is
Diablo-D3: but not all of it
mod6: oh wow. i feel like i read that article in a different life.
mod6: now i'm recalling him asking for donations and stuff, this is coming back to me.
MoneyIsDebt: wtf
mod6: bummer man :(
MoneyIsDebt: i had buy orders in over night, they're suddenly gone
mod6: were they filled?
MoneyIsDebt: nope
MoneyIsDebt: just deleted
MoneyIsDebt: they would have been filled
MoneyIsDebt: which means I lost out
MoneyIsDebt: dammit
BTC-Mining: All buy orders were wiped
MoneyIsDebt: all of my buys were gone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26566 @ 0.00038047 = 10.1076 BTC [-]
MoneyIsDebt: why?
BTC-Mining: Platform update
mod6: oh GLBSE?
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.0899 = 1.1687 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i somehow knew this was coming.
Diablo-D3: everyone did.... there was a forum thread about it
MoneyIsDebt: I knew there'd be an update removing the reserve requirement
MoneyIsDebt: so I guess it's worth it, if that's what happened
MoneyIsDebt: hmmm... no
MoneyIsDebt: my available still went down placing new bids
Obsi: Nef had to roll back
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC [-]
MoneyIsDebt: I see
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3481 @ 0.00099858 = 3.4761 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 300 @ 0.00350001 = 1.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30779 @ 0.00038114 = 11.7311 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14821 @ 0.00038496 = 5.7055 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0899 = 0.7192 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 66 @ 0.0035 = 0.231 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: !ticker nyan.a
assbot: [GLBSE:NYAN.A] [Bid: ] [Ask: 1] [Spread: 1] [Last: 1] [24hVol: ] [7dAvg: 1.00285714]
mircea_popescu: usagi : did nyan.a miss dividend ?
mircea_popescu: o nm, due 26 not 24. my bad.
BTC-Mining: http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
tsukino: I'm going to write a new backend for GLBSE
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.37232, Best ask: 10.44804, Bid-ask spread: 0.07572, Last trade: 10.37215, 24 hour volume: 98875, 24 hour low: 9.86123, 24 hour high: 10.62611
BTC-Mining: FUUUUU, I need the data...
usagi: And it will be SO fast
usagi: that it will be like users get punched in the face.
mircea_popescu: usagi didn't know you worked with glbse
usagi: I don't
usagi: It will be a gift.
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: wait, is charts gown for good ?
usagi: Nefario what do you think, if I write a smoking hot backend would you use it?
mircea_popescu: fuck.
mircea_popescu: how do i price options nao.
BTC-Mining: Indeed...
BTC-Mining: Use GLBSE api?
usagi: When I say smoking hot, I mean 1,000 concurrent users all doing heavy trading being handled within seconds
BTC-Mining: arf, I meant mtgox
mircea_popescu: im not using mtgox api.
usagi: No it would be server side, i'd give him the source code
mircea_popescu: what does ;;ticker use ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 47 @ 0.1 = 4.7 BTC [+]
usagi: When I say smoking hot I am talking enterprise class
nefario: usagi, I'd be reluctant to move to any new code base
nefario: current one is reliable and secure
nefario: albeit a little slow
nefario: but that can and is being fixed
mircea_popescu: deadterra! hello ?
nefario: I don't think he's here
mircea_popescu: this boggles. dood wants to do a pt, dissapears.
Chaang-Noi: deadt said he would be back in 7 hours
mircea_popescu: 7 hours from when ?
Chaang-Noi: about 20 mins ago
BTC-Mining: He was just there, trying to figure out how to transact...
BTC-Mining: Wouldn't work apparently
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.08989999 = 3.3263 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: yeah. yesterday, about this time, i'm hey, lets go over this make sure it works for you
mircea_popescu: he has to go.
mircea_popescu: stays gone all through.
BTC-Mining: Not sure at which step it got stuck, I think putting in the buy order
mircea_popescu: !ticker GSDPT
assbot: [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.0035] [Ask: 0.0065] [Spread: 0.003] [Last: 0.007] [24hVol: 245.987603] [7dAvg: 0.004098]
mircea_popescu: last 0.007 that's nice.
BTC-Mining: All sold
mircea_popescu: so basically a bunch of people are getting defrauded on glbse cause of all this.
BTC-Mining: He said he'd pay the 0.0002 extra for round two out of his pocket
BTC-Mining: If he couldn't figure it in time
BTC-Mining: 14 BTC on 70000 shares
BTC-Mining: eh
mircea_popescu: sucks tho
BTC-Mining: Well your interface is not easy to use, it's closer to an API
BTC-Mining: it's an API actually
mircea_popescu: you just install python, sign the exchange key and trade
BTC-Mining: the kind which would need brokers built around it
mircea_popescu: it seriously isn't that big a deal.
nefario: mircea_popescu: you know we used to have that
mircea_popescu: but yes, it is.
nefario: then we actually made something people used
mircea_popescu: nefario shouldn't ever have moved from it.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3821 @ 0.00101627 = 3.8832 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: For you maybe, for the average Joe, not easy to use
mircea_popescu: nefario finance is not about people. finance is about money.
nefario: this isn't just finance
mircea_popescu: what people use is a discussion about facebook.
mircea_popescu: yes, yes it is. it's entirely about finance and nothing else but finance.
nefario: no reason to exclude people
mircea_popescu: plenty of reason to expect people to adapt to the needs of money, rather than to expect money to adapt.
nefario: just cause your incapable or putting lipstick on a pig
nefario: doesn't mean you shouldn't try
mircea_popescu: money is dumb. or too clever. in any case disinterested in people.
mircea_popescu: it's people that are interested in money.
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 6 @ 1.635 = 9.81 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 14 @ 1.64 = 22.96 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: Mircea, you know how most bank service for brokerage and holding your portfolio, making transactions and all, all use a very nice interface so the trader can easily do his transactions? Your backend is an API, the kind you'd run the central exchange with. But regular traders won't use that.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining it's deliberately made like that man.
mircea_popescu: specifically to encouage and foster growth in the community.
BTC-Mining: That's what I heard.
mircea_popescu: i am not interested in dominating the entire chain. all i want is to do one thing well
mircea_popescu: and allow other people to start doing things well, and make sense, and understand wtf is going on and participate.
BTC-Mining: So get a broker with a website and the whole nice user interface service going.
mircea_popescu: there's plenty of people working.
BTC-Mining: Well actually, someone might do that eventually
mircea_popescu: apparently it's not such a high priority or something.
Chaang-Noi: im going to get so trashed tonight :)
Chaang-Noi: and some some of these fine cubans from coldhardmetal :)
BTC-Mining: nice...
Chaang-Noi: just thought id share:)
Chaang-Noi: nice to be back home!
usagi: hi goat
mircea_popescu: so what the heck got into the bitcoincahrts guy ? did he get his money frozen ?
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.384, Best ask: 10.4698, Bid-ask spread: 0.08580, Last trade: 10.37232, 24 hour volume: 98658, 24 hour low: 9.88789, 24 hour high: 10.62611
BTC-Mining: Something like that maybe
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,24h
gribble: Error: "bc,24h" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: mmm how do you say that ? day's avg price ?
nefario: hmmm
nefario: someone else is going to have to step in
Chaang-Noi: hi usagi
BTC-Mining: He could give the source to someone if he's so pissed...
mircea_popescu: myea.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25997 @ 0.00038655 = 10.0491 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21503 @ 0.00038595 = 8.2991 BTC [-]
usagi: what source
mircea_popescu: so what other feed providers are there ?
BTC-Mining: http://www.bitcoincharts.com/
BTC-Mining: THAT
BTC-Mining: All charts gone :'(
nefario: oh we might do this
nefario: we've got a GLBSE charts backend
nefario: coming up
nefario: which could easily be moved to this
usagi: Yeah you should do data and charts in-house
mircea_popescu: ah yea, you were using their charts huh ?
mircea_popescu: getting off seems a good move in retrospect.
nefario: I was
nefario: they were not cheap
nefario: he's a weird character
BTC-Mining: Who's that he?
area: Okay, so what are we using instead of bitcoincharts?
mircea_popescu: the btcharts guy
nefario: bitcoincharts guy
nefario: threatened to take intersango off the site
nefario: if they did anything about tainted coins
nefario: or did anything about stolen BTC
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.6004 = 3.002 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i would too.
mircea_popescu: bs "stolen coins".
nefario: aint BS if the address they're sent to is on your exchange
nefario: since it can be tracked
nefario: puts exchanges at risk
mircea_popescu: the notion of "stolen" is problematic.
nefario: do explain
mircea_popescu: with the ammount of bs, drama and stupidity going on on the forum
mircea_popescu: and with the qty of plain out lieing ppl do
mircea_popescu: any claim of coins being stolen is less than certain.
mircea_popescu: that for one.
mircea_popescu: for the other, tainting coins will ruin the protocol.
nefario: doesn't mean it's not a thread to exchange operators
nefario: who have to operate in the current banking and legal system
mircea_popescu: a threat it may be, yes.
nefario: which is app to shut down and arrest those who allow the proceeds of crime to go through their system
nefario: or even percieved crime
mircea_popescu: but i don't think btc cares one way or the other.
nefario: and Im not even talking about tained coins
nefario: BTC doesn't
nefario: NYPD etc. might
mircea_popescu: that's the thing with btc, it opened up avenues of inconceivable competition
mircea_popescu: now we have legal jurisdiction competition going on.
nefario: possibly
mircea_popescu: but at any rate : his reaction if a pure btc play.
mircea_popescu: so in this context it makes perfect sense.
nefario: I think so too
nefario: I think it's become too expensive for him
assbot: [GLBSE] [YARR] 7 @ 0.9999999 = 7 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: course, it's a cost the fiat-exposed people can't jedge against
assbot: [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.64 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so it will be one of the great btc-political debates of our time.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 6 @ 0.098 = 0.588 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: but i for one am soundly on the liberty or death camp.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.9819 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.108 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.1025 = 0.615 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREASIC] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: a well, meanwhile people whining at me they can't price options
nefario: people complain GLBSE is slow
nefario: good problems to have
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well actually glbse was pretty fast most of yest
usagi: it's good enough for me, now, anyway
usagi: It's not possible to track stolen coins
usagi: Just use hotwallet
usagi: Coins go in dirty, come out clean
mircea_popescu: http://www.livebitcointicker.com/ how about this.
mircea_popescu: tradehill still there.
usagi: No I mean it's not possible to track who owns coins anymore.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4433 @ 0.00038595 = 1.7109 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00038589 = 10.612 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10245 @ 0.00038532 = 3.9476 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 522 @ 0.00038504 = 0.201 BTC [-]
usagi: It probably never was since satoshidice can pay out to another address
usagi: Which is 99% of the reason people use it
mircea_popescu: usagi you think ?
usagi: Once the bitcoinina hack money gets cleaned up thru satoshidice it will tank.
mircea_popescu: there's wallet mixers that don't charge 2%
usagi: 33,000 btc a year profit.. lol
usagi: Yeah hotwallet is an automixing wallet and we don't charge any fees at all.
mircea_popescu: so then why would people go to sdice.
usagi: Something to invest in
usagi: When I make the transition over to bootstrap completely, introduce litecoins and an exchane for them
usagi: I'll ipo hotwallet
mircea_popescu: no, if you automix coins for free why would they mix through sdice at 2% fee
usagi: Well that too
usagi: I'll shoot for a valuation about half of satoshidice's.
mircea_popescu: well that too what lol
usagi: A number of people have told me that there needs to be a competitor to satoshidice
usagi: I've already done that.
mircea_popescu: a few said that on the forum.
usagi: I have an anonymous automixing wallet with a gambling game on it with 100% odds.
usagi: Once I clean it up a bit and think of a business model... it's game over for satoshidice
mircea_popescu: http://www.bitcoinbullbear.com/ i like people into tech analysis.
mircea_popescu: :) more power to ya.
usagi: I will call it usagidice
usagi: Mircea have you played devil coins yet?
usagi: It has completely fair odds.
usagi: In fact if it makes too much money, it jinxes it's own roll and loses automatically
mircea_popescu: http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions-per-block this looks real good doesn't it.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 2 @ 0.58 = 1.16 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BMF] 18 @ 0.59 = 10.62 BTC [+]
usagi: The constraints on the pot are 0.0003 and 0.0005 now
mircea_popescu: usagi never even heard of it.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 9 @ 0.982 = 8.838 BTC [+]
usagi: oh its broken :<
usagi: brb lol
mircea_popescu: The Bitcoin Economy Is Collapsing With No Sign of Recovery ...
mircea_popescu: 8 Aug 2011 – BitcoinCharts-Post.jpg When Newsweek/The Daily Beast's Dan Lyons wrote about Bitcoins back in mid-June, that was a sure sign the digital ...
mircea_popescu: lulz.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2185 @ 0.00101619 = 2.2204 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3853 @ 0.00101475 = 3.9098 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8331 @ 0.00100438 = 8.3675 BTC [-]
nefario: mircea_popescu: the reason SD is being used to "launder" coins is that it was already fairly popular by BTC standards
nefario: no point in using a mixing service wth little turnover
nefario: SD had decent turnover
mircea_popescu: that may be a point yea. but it would also mean that the usage for laundering has to be a fraction of total usage.
nefario: they could use exchanges
nefario: but
mircea_popescu: which was what i was trying to delicately point out to the guy
nefario: they're in danger of getting caught
nefario: mircea_popescu: possibly at the outset
nefario: but you know
nefario: moss grows fat on a rolling stone
mircea_popescu: well if you mix dirty wiht dirty you don't get clean.
nefario: but you do make it really hard to trace
nefario: and mixed with clean
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 61 @ 0.05199999 = 3.172 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 845 @ 0.052 = 43.94 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 94 @ 0.054 = 5.076 BTC [+]
nefario: and then everyone has coffee coloured coins
BTC-Mining: There's no such thing as dirty bitcoins!
nefario: depends where you keep yours
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoincharts.com/
mircea_popescu: he changed the text.
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining i agree. pecunia non olet.
BTC-Mining: Just dip in them in some in some interweb virtual cola flavored soda and they'll stay clean!
mircea_popescu: let people mind their own fucking property not farm out their costs on me.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0065 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 99 @ 0.0066 = 0.6534 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.0066 = 3.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0066 = 0.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.089 BTC [-]
usagi: Ahh there we go
usagi: I was working on something late last night and forgot about it when I crashed
assbot: [GLBSE] [ARS] 47 @ 0.015 = 0.705 BTC [+]
usagi: Check it out mircea. I would sincerely value your opinion
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 37 @ 0.1 = 3.7 BTC [+]
BTC-Mining: About GSDPT
BTC-Mining: http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lltzgnHi5F1qzib3wo1_400.jpg
mircea_popescu: lol
BTC-Mining: That's some nice pricing
Chaang-Noi: .1 hmmm
Chaang-Noi: for bond-A
mircea_popescu: well i don't like it usagi cause it requires me to make an acct. i hate making accts.
mircea_popescu: is -a insured ?
usagi: Accounts are free
mircea_popescu: !ticker TYGRR.BOND-A
assbot: [GLBSE:TYGRR.BOND-A] [Bid: 0.02] [Ask: 0.1] [Spread: 0.08] [Last: 0.1] [24hVol: 3.7] [7dAvg: 0.1038]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.6002337 = 1.2005 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 18 @ 0.6001337 = 10.8024 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: usagi it's not a matter of cost, i have money.
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 3 @ 0.8 = 2.4 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: A is a mining bond
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 120 @ 0.1 = 12 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi on 4 btc volume, doesn't matter anyway.
mircea_popescu: paladon what's this fund thing i hear about ?
Chaang-Noi: who sold that mining bond to almost nothing
blazing_: !ticker rareearth
Chaang-Noi: its at 0 thats crazy
assbot: [GLBSE:RAREEARTH] [Bid: 0.009] [Ask: 0.01] [Spread: 0.001] [Last: 0.01] [24hVol: ] [7dAvg: 0.00968764]
BTC-Mining: usually the "0" on the chart is more like 0.001 and less
Chaang-Noi: yeah who sold at that?
BTC-Mining: and that's usually a hacked account
Chaang-Noi: tuesdays dividend will be more than that
Chaang-Noi: oh hmmm
BTC-Mining: and Nefario reverse those transactions
Chaang-Noi: nefario knows of this?
BTC-Mining: If the account is claimed hacked and the shares haven't already transacted a few times, I guess
nefario: Not exactly
BTC-Mining: How goes the process?
nefario: BTC-Mining: that particular instance was exceptional
mircea_popescu: unrolling trades is a nightmare.
nefario: as was the time kluge got his account hack
nefario: ja
BTC-Mining: oh
mircea_popescu: how did that happen nefario ? was it actyally session stiolen ?
BTC-Mining: No, I think simply not using 2 step auth...
usagi: no 2fa.
mircea_popescu: well yea, no 2fa. but session stolen ?
usagi: and he used the same password on gpumax.
mircea_popescu: (you can't really steal 2fa sessions i don't imagine)
usagi: and a few other places.
nefario: no his password was re-used and compromised
mircea_popescu: so was it pw compromise ? aha
mircea_popescu: i heard both variants so i didn't know what to make of it.
kakobrekla: mornin
BTC-Mining: Because users are careless
mircea_popescu: heya kakobrekla
BTC-Mining: good day kako
BTC-Mining: I'm off here
mircea_popescu: darling do something about this : http://bitcoincharts.com/
kakobrekla: what did i miss
BTC-Mining: Goodbye
usagi: As soon as GLBSE replaces the submit acttion button with a yubikey textarea I will be able to sleep at night
nefario: mircea_popescu: his email wsa also compromised AFAIK
Chaang-Noi: hi kakobrekla
mircea_popescu: usagi you want it to be moar like mpex ?
Chaang-Noi: bye btc-mining
nefario: ill add yubikey next month
kakobrekla: hi goat :)
usagi: MPEX doesn't use yubikeys
mircea_popescu: but it has textarea! 1 out of 2!!!
usagi: It uses GPG, which is secure in different ways, but also a lot harder to use.
kakobrekla: whats with bitcoincharts.com
mircea_popescu: he quit
mircea_popescu: fix it omg!
kakobrekla: r u srs?
BTC-Mining: YES
mircea_popescu: i have 48 emails in like pasy half hour
mircea_popescu: he just went down.
kakobrekla: woah.
usagi: My exchange system will be more secure than MPEX.
mircea_popescu: usagi i recall kronos saying that.
usagi: Yeah but lets be honest, that team had shitty coders on it.
kakobrekla: well this is bad (bitcoincharts.com thingy)
mircea_popescu: i know! it's horrid.
mircea_popescu: they needed competition anyway. get codin'
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.0999 = 0.2997 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: hmm
mircea_popescu: i am not even kidding kakobrekla, you're the person for the job. already run some information services here, are trustworthuy
mircea_popescu: and apparently you can code.
mircea_popescu: his ideea is sound, have charts, adata feed, some advertising etc. makes a dime.
kakobrekla: i will think about it, first i need to get some coffee.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00038528 = 0.0771 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9978 @ 0.00038504 = 3.8419 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12222 @ 0.00038445 = 4.6987 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 135 @ 0.054 = 7.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35378 @ 0.00038445 = 13.6011 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00038438 = 15.8749 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00038422 = 11.0271 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00038382 = 0.7293 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43300 @ 0.00038379 = 16.6181 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58000 @ 0.00038373 = 22.2563 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00038321 = 1.6478 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37122 @ 0.00038265 = 14.2047 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: gah, already being sold off. teh horror!
mircea_popescu: fucking hell i wake up X thing exploded. what is this, quicksand ?!
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 100 @ 0.065 = 6.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.0749999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 30 @ 0.075 = 2.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 70 @ 0.075 = 5.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 80 @ 0.07899999 = 6.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21778 @ 0.00038265 = 8.3334 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45556 @ 0.00038066 = 17.3413 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1234 @ 0.00038047 = 0.4695 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41432 @ 0.00038024 = 15.7541 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: 13:12.08 ( mircea_popescu ) fucking hell i wake up X thing exploded. what is this, quicksand ?!
kakobrekla: o?
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1400 @ 0.00101045 = 1.4146 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5329 @ 0.00101627 = 5.4157 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2683 @ 0.00101868 = 2.7331 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: well btccharts.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3607 @ 0.00038024 = 1.3715 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.0003793 = 6.1447 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00037896 = 3.7896 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61800 @ 0.00037659 = 23.2733 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00037648 = 9.1861 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23993 @ 0.00037645 = 9.0322 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: !ticker s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.000035 / 0.00030099 / 0.0004 (6071383 shares, 1,827.43 BTC), 30day: 0.000035 / 0.00036137 / 0.00041457 (67994575 shares, 24,571.65 BTC)
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.0999 = 0.1998 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 118 @ 0.07899999 = 9.322 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 551 @ 0.00038118 = 0.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 6 @ 0.6 = 3.6 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: http://www.worldzeitgeist.org:443/images/socnet/bitcoin-assets/bitcoin-assets-current.png
Chaang-Noi: usagi whenwil lthe 1 btc for yarr be paid out
Chaang-Noi: the dividend?
usagi: We've already bought back almost 1000 shares
mircea_popescu: haha cool kakobrekla where from ?
usagi: Put up your shares at 1, that's what the contract says we will do
usagi: We will buy back not pay out
kakobrekla: dunno someone pasted it in #btcst
usagi: I may pay out as a final action if some people are not going to sell their shares
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.08989999 = 0.4495 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla kinda interesting.
Chaang-Noi: ahh, i thought you were going to do a dividend
kakobrekla: but its old data
kakobrekla: jul 13
mircea_popescu: no assbot huh
mircea_popescu: so get tjhem to make a new 1
kakobrekla: wasnt born then yet
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.9819 = 1.9638 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.982 = 2.946 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 100 @ 0.09999999 = 10 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00037764 = 1.1329 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15207 @ 0.00037645 = 5.7247 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00037614 = 1.9935 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00037598 = 8.3844 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 18 @ 0.6001337 = 10.8024 BTC [-]
usagi: Nefario: Why doesn't the bid/ask trade window show up 50% of the time when I load a page?
usagi: I just loaded a page like 7 or 8 times and no trade area
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 3 @ 0.06 = 0.18 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: api rate limit
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 30 @ 0.1 = 3 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: that bothers me too
Chaang-Noi: pain in the ass...
usagi: nef
usagi: I can seriously write you an enterprise class backend
usagi: Im talking 1000 concurrent requests in just a couple of seconds, max
usagi: tests indicate 10,000+ requests per second in an optimal environment
nefario: Ive got a new API service coming online soon
nefario: the rate limit will be increased significantly then
nefario: and GLBSE core will speed up a lot
mircea_popescu: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120215/18044017773/us-government-suspends-jotformcom-over-user-generated-forms-censorship-regime-expands.shtml
mircea_popescu: the us govt seriously sucks. period.
nefario: not having to handle those requests
mircea_popescu: i don't understand why anyone'd still support it.
nefario: they get paid by it?
nefario: i.e. vested interests
mircea_popescu: ya but those aren't people. if you work for a government you're, basically, scum.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0066 = 0.066 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0066 = 0.0132 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/ he's back
mircea_popescu: from what i gather a douchy exchange which we won;t name stepped the fuck back.
Chaang-Noi: :)
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3917 @ 0.00101868 = 3.9902 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1583 @ 0.00102135 = 1.6168 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: steped the fuck back from what
kakobrekla: im not following this completley
mircea_popescu: well seems the guy's acct got frozen
mircea_popescu: so he blew his top
kakobrekla: oh wow
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 10 @ 0.106 = 1.06 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: well good
kakobrekla: happy i dont have to take up the work
mircea_popescu: :)
mircea_popescu: fast paced environment, btc
kakobrekla: about 10x faster than internet and 100x than real world
MrTiggr: ^^ kakobrekla
kakobrekla: thanks :)
mircea_popescu: " I'm beginning to understand that this whole operation and stock sale are not intended to take in to consideration any body of law, and you all are comfortable with the risks involved with that. It's basically a gentleman's agreement offered on a handshake."
mircea_popescu: YES!
MrTiggr: yu have live graph, enjoy!
mircea_popescu: we need to bring back the handshake and the gentlemen!
mircea_popescu: o hi MrTiggr
kakobrekla: MrTiggr, is there a command to get the url
MrTiggr: http://www.worldzeitgeist.org:443/images/socnet/bitcoin-assets/bitcoin-assets-current.png
Chaang-Noi: i see me:)
mircea_popescu: i see myself at the edge too lol
MrTiggr: fsck goat is everywhere
mircea_popescu: what data does it use ? what it gets while on chan ?
MrTiggr: :P
Chaang-Noi: its my job to be everywhere:)
mircea_popescu: why ?
MrTiggr: it monitors all posts to the chan and uses a vaiety of metrics to derive the social graph
MrTiggr: hilites are part of it
mircea_popescu: very cool.
MrTiggr: but rapid-chat alternatitions
mircea_popescu: liek this ?
MrTiggr: and adjacency and stuff make up other metrics
MrTiggr: yerp
assbot: [GLBSE] [MMM] 5 @ 0.8 = 4 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: you'ra a good man, bless you.
Chaang-Noi: ive been away for many days, im going to assume that that would affect my dots and lines?
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi it seems it has very old data with a smattering of the past few minutes.
mircea_popescu: will sort out in time
Chaang-Noi: of i just hit refresh and it will change?
Chaang-Noi: oh crazy
mircea_popescu: hmm, MrTiggr some ppl appear twice ? like two kakobrekla two Chaang-Noi etc
Chaang-Noi: my names has more than 2 or 3 a's
Chaang-Noi: chaang and chaaang and chaaaang its all me
Chaang-Noi: sometimes wifi just sucks lol
mircea_popescu: o i see nm my bad
MrTiggr: :D
kakobrekla: hm
MrTiggr: i can clear the db for this chan if you like
MrTiggr: i think it is mixing like ...year old data with now
kakobrekla: also maybe.... merge nicks by ident/host ?
Chaang-Noi: ahh now i got errors
mircea_popescu: you prolly should wipe old ya
MrTiggr: yeh ... gimme a sec, i clear it
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13400 @ 0.00102135 = 13.6861 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: ok
MrTiggr: test
MrTiggr: ok - well, looks like changes will take place next reboot of the bot; the graph is just a little funky for now; sorry guys
Chaang-Noi: np thanks
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 8 @ 0.982 = 7.856 BTC [+]
usagi: Lol, so this is rg and usagi's channel.
usagi: teek teek teek teek teek teek
usagi: teek teek teek teek teek teek
usagi: teek teek teek teek teek teek
usagi: ahh he's closer now.
mircea_popescu: lol
usagi: You could use this data to socialize
mircea_popescu: get a room you two
usagi: Hey BTCHero! Long time no see. What's up man
usagi: BTCHero: Haven't chatted with you in a while. What are you working on these days?
MrTiggr: i actually thought of a good IRC game to play with the graphs usagi , kakobrekla
mircea_popescu: omg wtf who told windows ppl to put cancel on lefT!
MrTiggr: start a new channel - invite the bot .... whoever is in the middle at the end of a timer wins a prize
mircea_popescu: MrTiggr you mind adding it to #trilema ?
MrTiggr: sure
mircea_popescu: :D
kakobrekla: MrTiggr :)
MrTiggr: ofc the prize wud be bitcoins :D
mircea_popescu: !ticker S.DICE
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00320205 / 0.003232 (1609462 shares, 5,153.58 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00320205 / 0.003232 (1609462 shares, 5,153.58 BTC)
mircea_popescu: !ticker GIGAMINING
assbot: [GLBSE:GIGAMINING] [Bid: 0.9651] [Ask: 0.9845] [Spread: 0.0194] [Last: 0.982] [24hVol: 76.55499] [7dAvg: 0.99266985]
mircea_popescu: !ticker TYGRR.BOND-P
assbot: [GLBSE:TYGRR.BOND-P] [Bid: 0.6001337] [Ask: 0.6699] [Spread: 0.0697663] [Last: 0.6001337] [24hVol: 201.28088084] [7dAvg: 0.68518132]
Chaang-Noi: .6 seems fair
assbot: [GLBSE] [RSM] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8493 @ 0.00037505 = 3.1853 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6825 @ 0.00037735 = 2.5754 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23488 @ 0.00037953 = 8.9144 BTC [+]
usagi: anyone here got some litecoins they can help me with?
rdponticelli: How many?
mircea_popescu: i think rg has a bunch
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45700 @ 0.000375 = 17.1375 BTC [-]
rdponticelli: usagi: How many would you need?
usagi: sending you a pm
rdponticelli: Ok
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.08989998 = 0.9889 BTC [-]
rg: i have a decent amount
rg: not as much as i usually have
rg: but some
usagi: well rg I just added a litecoin wallet to hotwallet
usagi: Gonna code the exchange next :>
rg: i will never let anyone touch my litecoin wallet again
usagi: I'm testing litecoin send and recieve now.
rg: not after greedi have me the joan collins special
rg: right up the pooper
usagi: What happened
rg: 'software error' cause it to send it all to someone else
usagi: Lol now THATS bullshit
usagi: How the hell did that happen I wonder
rg: cause he's as good of a coder as he is honorable
rg: normally.. if my error cause someone to lost $500
rg: id reimburse them
rg: most people would, yea?
usagi: Well I am a better coder and I'm going to insure hotwallet funds.
rg: but no
rg: instead
rg: he gets ops in #litecoin
rg: and people are just plain leaving now
rg: cause hes a nazi
usagi: greedi made litecoin?
rg: he's worse than gmaxwell with the -otc rules
rg: no
rg: fuck no
usagi: Is there a block explorer type service for litecoins?
rg: yep
rg: http://explorer.litecoin.net/
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 65 @ 0.00100438 = 0.0653 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7498 @ 0.0009981 = 7.4838 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 2 @ 0.32060999 = 0.6412 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26561 @ 0.00037953 = 10.0807 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00038186 = 5.4988 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20439 @ 0.00038302 = 7.8285 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.6995 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 300 @ 0.0001195 = 0.0359 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i have over 100k ltc why do you need them?
Azelphur: Chaang-Noi: hookers and blow
Chaang-Noi: hmm
nefario: bitches and whores
Chaang-Noi: i have over 200k i guess
Chaang-Noi: i just kept buying lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 30 @ 0.5 = 15 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6700 @ 0.00099773 = 6.6848 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: wonder what sorta whores take ltc
nefario: lol
Chaang-Noi: i could only assume lady boys or maybe mircea_popescu's sex slaves
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.106 = 2.65 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi wha ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.08989998 = 0.4495 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: did you not say you kept sex slaves a few days ago?
mircea_popescu: http://wtvr.com/2012/08/23/brandon-raub-judge-orders-release-of-detained-marine-veteran-freed/ this is pretty outlandish
mircea_popescu: yes Chaang-Noi
Chaang-Noi: do you rent them out for ltc?
mircea_popescu: lol nope.
Chaang-Noi: i was trying to find whores that would take ltc
Chaang-Noi: there might not be any
mircea_popescu: well... azns are lighter so.
mircea_popescu: mebbe there :D
_locust_: litewhores...?
mircea_popescu: liteRALLYwhores
Chaang-Noi: i bet some asians would.. but how to get ltc miners out of the basementto asia...
usagi: What the F***
usagi: 0.1 fees for litecoin sends?
usagi: Is that normal?
Chaang-Noi: ive never paid a fee
Chaang-Noi: are you doig this from btc-e ?
usagi: No
Chaang-Noi: ive never paid a fee for ltc sending
usagi: Hotwallet
Chaang-Noi: but anyway .1 ltc is nothing
usagi: I just tested litecoin send and recieve -- it works. BINGO!@ F(*(^%$ BINGO ! hahaha
Chaang-Noi: iv never used that
Chaang-Noi: iv never even heard of hotwallet
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 317 @ 0.00099773 = 0.3163 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: he's developing it
Chaang-Noi: oh
Chaang-Noi: ahh i see his copy right
assbot: [GLBSE] [JAH] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.0032 = 4.8 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: mmm i hope DeaDTerra gets back in time
assbot: [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 1 @ 1 BTC
Chaang-Noi: so these sex slaves, are they willing and into bdsm or did you have to steal them?
mircea_popescu: i didn't steal anybody lol
mircea_popescu: most women acrtually prefer to live submissively if ithey can find somebody competent to d' them
Chaang-Noi: how many do you have?
mircea_popescu: a few.
Chaang-Noi: seems like a lot of work
mircea_popescu: well... it can be, but usually isn't.
mircea_popescu: linux seems like a lot of work originally too.
rg: usagi
rg: you need a damn hostname
Chaang-Noi: lol
rg: too bad you cant have hotwall.et
rg: .et is a real tld
mircea_popescu: you.re.et
rg: but they dont do .et, only .com.et etc
Chaang-Noi: okay i will ahve to talk to my wife about it but i bet she would let me get one or two...
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi why would you want them anyway ?
Chaang-Noi: im bored
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.107 = 0.963 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.00989 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: haha bad reason. get a goldfish
Chaang-Noi: i assume you can let them go in the wild when you are done right?
mircea_popescu: no dood. it's people we're discussing here.
Chaang-Noi: well if they cant go free then there must be some sort of market then for used sex slaves?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36220 @ 0.00037517 = 13.5887 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4180 @ 0.00037948 = 1.5862 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i doubt ebay would work
mircea_popescu: no, you are stuck with them for the rest of your life!!!1
Chaang-Noi: what if i die?
Chaang-Noi: i dont think i want that much pressure... i forget to water my plants....
mircea_popescu: yeah. which is why most girls can't find masters.
Diablo-D3: lock up one more time you goddamned fucking faggot
EmanuelDeOrtego: Okay
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00037516 = 0.3752 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: All I want is an approved IPO I paid $80 for
Chaang-Noi: asian girls are pretty submissive anyway
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: that is not true
Chaang-Noi: esp once you buy them :/
Diablo-D3: they used to be in the old country
EmanuelDeOrtego: ;;seen nefario
gribble: nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 26 minutes and 49 seconds ago: <nefario> lol
Diablo-D3: whatever passes for an old country in east asia, anyways
Diablo-D3: s/an/the/
EmanuelDeOrtego: Nefario: Have you looked at VersaCoin yet?
Diablo-D3: but the new crop? all fucking westernized
Diablo-D3: fuck that womn
Diablo-D3: either recognize he glory that is my penis or go fuck yoursef
Diablo-D3: and why the fuck is my keyboard dropping etters again
Chaang-Noi: in thailand the rates start around 50,000 baht or like 1.5k usd
Diablo-D3: lllllll wrok you goddamned nigger
Diablo-D3: I have the only fucking keyboard in the fucking world that I have to fucking hotplug to make it work
Diablo-D3: the firmware fucking crashes I fuck you not
nefario: EmanuelDeOrtego: no why would I?
nefario: whats special about it?
EmanuelDeOrtego: nefario: It's a listing I paid for...
Diablo-D3: EmanuelDeOrtego: doesnt fucking matter
Diablo-D3: nefario likes to sit on that shit for 3 days
Diablo-D3: becxause he can
EmanuelDeOrtego: Well, it's been 3 days, I believe.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I could be wrong.
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 never bought a kbd with firmware, never will.
mircea_popescu: fuck firmware.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: dude, I didnt even know keyboards HAD firmwares
usagi: But what domain name should I get RG?
Diablo-D3: see, I asked my gamer friends
EmanuelDeOrtego: I am not asking for investors.
usagi: It needs to be a good sounding name
mircea_popescu: the newer shit with programmable displays etc do.
Diablo-D3: they say razor
EmanuelDeOrtego: I just want to get what I paid for, heh.
Diablo-D3: well, I knew razor was a shit brand
Diablo-D3: I knew this up front
Diablo-D3: but I said
Diablo-D3: hey why not
mircea_popescu: you got got.
Diablo-D3: there was one for sale for $10 usually $60
usagi: Can I get a .name address with namecoins, rg?
mircea_popescu: prolly trolling you.
Diablo-D3: now I have exactly two problems
Diablo-D3: 1) I have a razor keyboard
Diablo-D3: its the most uncomfortable fucking pile of shit
Diablo-D3: gamer keyboard my fucking fat pussy seaking torpedo.
Diablo-D3: my love icbm.
mircea_popescu: so buy a genius ione for $4
mircea_popescu: ir w.e
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: no
Diablo-D3: I am going to get a fucking ibm model m
Diablo-D3: or a das keyboard blank
mircea_popescu: or the sdpace cadet :D
Diablo-D3: no space cadets for me
Diablo-D3: I use vim not emacs
Diablo-D3: dohohohhoho
EmanuelDeOrtego: nefario: To be even more specific, it's a security I paid for 3 or so days ago. Just looking for updates.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 110 @ 0.08989998 = 9.889 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol
Diablo-D3: EmanuelDeOrtego: see, thats where you went wrong
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.06 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: nice to see 25+ year old jokes are still live and well.
Diablo-D3: >0.06
Diablo-D3: hey, we're up
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.08989998 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Diablo-D3: I didn't pay him even more money?
Diablo-D3: EmanuelDeOrtego: no, you didnt take a pair of pliers to his fingers
mircea_popescu: nefario needs to up the cost of ipos.
mircea_popescu: 8 btc is a joke.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I would agree if things were quicker.
assbot: [GLBSE] [STANDARD.GOLD] 1000 @ 0.0001 = 0.1 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: damn, where did btc-mining go
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 42 @ 0.08989998 = 3.7758 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 43 @ 0.08989999 = 3.8657 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 291 @ 0.0899 = 26.1609 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: to sleep
EmanuelDeOrtego: Somebody keeps buying STANDARD.GOLD at full price.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Nobody reads contracts. : (
Diablo-D3: whats the contract?
EmanuelDeOrtego: After April 2012, if Bitcoin is traded at a USD price equal or greater to the NYMEX* USD price of one (1) troy ounce of Gold on Mt.Gox* before the first time Bitcoin is traded on Mt. Gox at a price of at most $1 USD, this bond will be bought back for .0001 Bitcoins.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Otherwise this bond is assumed worthless.
EmanuelDeOrtego: People are buying it at .0001
EmanuelDeOrtego: Bitcoins
EmanuelDeOrtego: Now their money gets to be mine for the next year or so. : P
kakobrekla: silly asset
Diablo-D3: EmanuelDeOrtego: so .... if the price ever drops to $1, you buy back the shares but until then it... does nothing?
EmanuelDeOrtego: It's supposed to measure the likelihood of events
EmanuelDeOrtego: Diablo-D3: It's hitting the price of Gold.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Just you wait
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> silly asset << ++
EmanuelDeOrtego: All I know is that it will eventually be profitable.
EmanuelDeOrtego: That isn't silly
mircea_popescu: if i used an exchange i'd seriously pay people to nuke such assets.
EmanuelDeOrtego: https://glbse.com/asset/view/IMPACT
EmanuelDeOrtego: This, my friends, is silly
mircea_popescu: too lazyto read it. what is it ?
kakobrekla: a buch of nonsense
EmanuelDeOrtego: You guys enjoy your mining bonds.
EmanuelDeOrtego: That's all I have to say.
mircea_popescu: http://www.videobash.com/video_show/clever-bird-goes-fishing-364959 check out the fishing bird
EskimoBob: is NYAN.C turning in to a turd?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43751 @ 0.00037948 = 16.6026 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: no
Diablo-D3: nyan.c covers all the risky shit
Diablo-D3: its .a that should be turning into a turd
EskimoBob: !pl
assbot: !pl <ticker> [<amount>@]<bought at> [<YYYY-MM-DD>]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.089 = 0.445 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: If you guys want to see shit, you should the American-OTC penny stocks
EskimoBob: !pl NYAN.A 1
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: NYAN.A [1@1BTC] paid: 0.03 BTC. Last price: 1 BTC. Capital gain: 0 BTC. Total: 0.03 BTC. (3%)
EskimoBob: !pl NYAN.C 1
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: NYAN.C [1@1BTC] paid: 0.08618649 BTC. Last price: 0.85 BTC. Capital gain: -0.15 BTC. Total: -0.06381351 BTC. (-6.4%)
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 3 @ 0.8003 = 2.4009 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: why should .a turn into a turd ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [TEEK.B] 2 @ 0.8002 = 1.6004 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: nefario: nice job with exchange. Thank you
Diablo-D3: !pl dmc 1
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: DMC [1@1BTC] paid: 0.02635814 BTC. Last price: 0.06 BTC. Capital gain: -0.94 BTC. Total: -0.91364186 BTC. (-91.4%)
Diablo-D3: wow what a useless script
mircea_popescu: lol. why useless ? it's great.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: turd is EskimoBob's word for "fixed mhash mining bond"
EmanuelDeOrtego: I think my STANDARD.GOLD would classify as a turd in the eyes of some
mircea_popescu: well seeing how it's not invested on s.dice/s,mpoe and pirate went away
mircea_popescu: what the heck else would it be ?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: well, theres a lot of asicminer in there
Diablo-D3: and a lot of dmc
mircea_popescu: which arern't miner bonds ?
Diablo-D3: which arent _fixed_ miner bonds
MoneyIsDebt: !pl JAH 1
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: JAH [1@1BTC] paid: 0.07809846 BTC. Last price: 0.16 BTC. Capital gain: -0.84 BTC. Total: -0.76190154 BTC. (-76.2%)
kakobrekla: jah was not at 1 afaik
MoneyIsDebt: I didn't know what the 1 parameter meant
kakobrekla: 0.285?
kakobrekla: !pl
assbot: !pl <ticker> [<amount>@]<bought at> [<YYYY-MM-DD>]
MoneyIsDebt: !pl JAH 0.19
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: JAH [1@0.19BTC] paid: 0.07809846 BTC. Last price: 0.16 BTC. Capital gain: -0.03 BTC. Total: 0.04809846 BTC. (25.3%)
MoneyIsDebt: and if you put no date?
kakobrekla: no date = all data
kakobrekla: all payments
MoneyIsDebt: !pl JAH 0.19 2012-08-01
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: JAH [1@0.19BTC] (since: 2012-08-01) paid: 0.01253961 BTC. Last price: 0.16 BTC. Capital gain: -0.03 BTC. Total: -0.01746039 BTC. (-9.2%)
MoneyIsDebt: cool
assbot: [GLBSE] [GOLD] 6 @ 0.00989 = 0.0593 BTC [-]
MoneyIsDebt: !pl OBSI.HRPT 0.1 2012-08-01
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: OBSI.HRPT [1@0.1BTC] (since: 2012-08-01) paid: 0.0223 BTC. Last price: 0.107 BTC. Capital gain: 0.007 BTC. Total: 0.0293 BTC. (29.3%)
assbot: [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 50 @ 0.0001195 = 0.006 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3125 @ 0.0032 = 10 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 18 @ 0.07922948 = 1.4261 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 3 @ 0.15989856 = 0.4797 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1 @ 0.64443962 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C040T] 1 @ 0.61536715 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C030T] 1 @ 0.71227537 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1 @ 0.33276456 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C020T] 1 @ 0.82868136 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C020T] 1 @ 0.80918358 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 15 @ 0.92899 = 13.9349 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 30 @ 0.929 = 27.87 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 2 @ 0.25680677 = 0.5136 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102922.0
EmanuelDeOrtego: Oh gawd
mircea_popescu: THE IPO:
mircea_popescu: Battalion: Genesis, a 3D video game set in 2252 AD needs you! Well, investors, that is. This Initial Public Offering is a serious attempt aimed at raising funds to support this real world project, with an estimated 12-18 months of development remaining.
mircea_popescu: what's riskier than a video game ?
Diablo-D3: greek debt.
mircea_popescu: Price? 10,000 shares are going up for grabs initially, so for a 1% stake in net profit you would be looking to own 500 shares. The IPO (on GLBSE) will offer shares at the following rates:
mircea_popescu: 3000 @ 0.95 btc per share
mircea_popescu: 4000 @ 1.00 btc per share
mircea_popescu: 3000 @ 1.05 btc per share
usagi: hotwallet junk bonds
mircea_popescu: i like that they copied the trached system used for bvps/dice tho
Diablo-D3: nyan.
mircea_popescu: srsly, in spite of all the bitching and sillyness people are willing to learn it seems.
mircea_popescu: 1) Space is "in" but may soon be "out" - There are several games set in space that have been released recently, as well as a few on the horizon, and most aren't selling well. How will this effect BTNG?
mircea_popescu: The lack of space games has indeed driven the production of several games recently. However, all games so far have tried to recapture old ground
mircea_popescu: so basically, everyone else failed but we'll make it cause we're cool
mircea_popescu: so said mommy.
mircea_popescu: we don't have a distribution deal tho.
EmanuelDeOrtego: You need to see the video of their "awesome graphics."
mircea_popescu: 2) You don't have a large team working on the game, what if it never finishes?
mircea_popescu: This is an understandable concern, considering I'm essentially doing this on my own at the moment.
EmanuelDeOrtego: It's like I went back to the 90s
mircea_popescu: at the moment.
mircea_popescu: i like "at the moment". it's like a whore, this expression.
EmanuelDeOrtego: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=V-cF92JuRZM
usagi: um
mircea_popescu: she and her sister "right now" have the complete collection of VD (verbal diseases)
mircea_popescu: Previous to this I set up and ran a simmer sauce manufacturing business (www.ameetshomestyle.com) on a dime, so I do have experience in organizing complex problems into more manageable chunks to create a cohesive, commercial grade whole, all on a deadline.
mircea_popescu: i'm in awe of the internets.
assbot: [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 100 @ 0.093 = 9.3 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: You know, I feel insulted.
mircea_popescu: 6) What if you make a really shitty game that doesn't sell any copies?
mircea_popescu: This is a true risk that you face as an investor, and something that all game investors face. I've had a hardcore, mostly mainstream taste in games for 20 years, and believe I'm self aware enough to know when I'm enjoying something because it's fun, or I'm playing something because I've been skinner boxed.
mircea_popescu: these people. they mean so well and do so much damage by it :(
EmanuelDeOrtego: I think Nefario is intentionally putting off my IPO.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Another security was approved in the same time frame as mine.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I think that's very unprofessional.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Especially without any notice.
nefario: It's nothing intentional EmanuelDeOrtego
EmanuelDeOrtego: Well, I take back what I said.
nefario: you can see I've been busy the last couple of days
nefario: the last 3 days I've not had any sleep
mircea_popescu: ouch.
mircea_popescu: that's not good.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Pardon me, my friend.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I will wait patiently then.
EmanuelDeOrtego: Take your time.
EmanuelDeOrtego: I just fear the unknown.
EmanuelDeOrtego: We all do usually.
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.ABMO] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Anyways, GLBSE is going to get a lot better soon.
EmanuelDeOrtego: That's all I will say.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 95 @ 0.0899 = 8.5405 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P080N] 7 @ 0.09780307 = 0.6846 BTC [-]
usagi: Wheee I found a security hole
Chaang-Noi: im a goat!
usagi: in my system
Chaang-Noi: im not in your system!
hctib: DeaDTerra: why are you not taking advantage of the arbitrage available to you with s.dice?
hctib: DeaDTerra: is it difficult to issue more shares on GLBSE?
mircea_popescu: hctib we're kinda waiting for him to come backl online.
Chaang-Noi: he cant get shit to work
Chaang-Noi: and he is too busy
Chaang-Noi: and people keep using his name to sell shit and its not him lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 0.999 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol ya srsly.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48523 @ 0.0003781 = 18.3465 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4626 @ 0.00037663 = 1.7423 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7669 @ 0.00037948 = 2.9102 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35300 @ 0.00038269 = 13.509 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00038302 = 5.0942 BTC [+]
EmanuelDeOrtego: Okay, anybody want to help me create a Bitcoin stock exchange that specializes in high-risk, unverified stocks?
EmanuelDeOrtego: To list a security, it costs only 1 BTC.
EmanuelDeOrtego: You can list whatever you want that's not CP or Murder.
mircea_popescu: why not ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0032 = 16 BTC [-]
smickles: < BTC-Mining> but MPOE/S.DICE have passthrough on GLBSE <<< mpoe.etf is more of a managed fund than a passthru
usagi: Who here is account 47?
usagi: On hotwallet? If that's you please msg me!
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 25 @ 0.93 = 23.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.6001337 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.56 = 1.68 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.55 = 2.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.55 = 2.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 19 @ 0.93 = 17.67 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.54 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.53 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.52 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.52 = 10.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 22 @ 0.52 = 11.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.511 = 1.022 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 45 @ 0.511 = 22.995 BTC [-]
hctib: oh well, that's why I don't do this kind of stuff, it takes too much time.
mircea_popescu: we need more people doing it honestly.
mircea_popescu: but if you want to get in you can prolly talk to smickles.
hctib: I have
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41979 @ 0.00037965 = 15.9373 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: as they say, the internet will rout around anything.
mircea_popescu: +e
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0032 = 6.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.51000101 = 2.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 8 @ 0.51 = 4.08 BTC [-]
hctib: yes it will!
hctib: I wonder if s.dice will sell out before 12 GMT
mircea_popescu: ;;rated smickles
gribble: You rated user smickles on Thu Jun 14 19:16:42 2012, giving him a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: He's been running MPOE.ETF and releasing THE monthly reports, a model for all Bitcoin financial reporting..
hctib: looks like it'll be close
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.5501 = 1.1002 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 48 @ 0.55 = 26.4 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;rate smickles 4 He's been running MPOE.ETF and releasing THE monthly reports, a model for all Bitcoin financial reporting. Also handled k's of BTC as broker for various clients.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user smickles has changed from 3 to 4.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 5 @ 0.148 = 0.74 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.55 = 1.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 18 @ 0.54 = 9.72 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.54 = 1.08 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 5 @ 0.52 = 2.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 13 @ 0.52 = 6.76 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 7 @ 0.52 = 3.64 BTC [-]
smickles: hmm,
smickles: ;;rated mircea_popescu
gribble: You rated user mircea_popescu on Thu Jun 14 19:21:33 2012, giving him a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: does a fine job at things.
smickles: well that just seems out of date
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 16 @ 0.51 = 8.16 BTC [-]
smickles: ;;rate mircea_popescu 3 runs MPEx, is open and honest
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from 2 to 3.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.5101 = 1.0202 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [-]
EmanuelDeOrtego: https://glbse.com/asset/view/GMVT-BOT
EmanuelDeOrtego: Could of been a good pick for you guys
EmanuelDeOrtego: So sorry you didn't buy
mircea_popescu: what is it ?
EmanuelDeOrtego: Volatility bot on Mt. Gox
EmanuelDeOrtego: that apparently "can't lose"
mircea_popescu: a ok.
usagi: lol
usagi: I bought 250 shares o_o
mircea_popescu: it doesn't stream ?
usagi: Nefario is a hard worker Emmanuel. Tell me about your new issue :)
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 6 @ 0.51 = 3.06 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 29 @ 0.45 = 13.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 6 @ 0.45 = 2.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.004 = 0.12 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: I am back
nefario: get your lesson from mircea_popescu
DeaDTerra: Will do :)
mircea_popescu: o hi DeaDTerra!
mircea_popescu: you need to issue more shares omg!
DeaDTerra: Sorry about all these delays..., Feels like everything goes to hell right now
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.4 = 4 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: Will do :)
EmanuelDeOrtego: usagi: It's on hiatus, considering he's changing up GLBSE.
mod6: DeaDTerra: did you get your issues solved lastnight?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.10699999 = 2.675 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: MPex no, GLBSE Yes. I am getting the MPex resolved as we speak.
DeaDTerra: Something tells me tonight is going to be a long night xD so much to do
mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vaux-le-Vicomte_01.jpg this is a decent little country cottage wouldn't you say.
rg: summer lovin
rg: had me a blast
rg: summer lovin
rg: happened so fast
DeaDTerra: 100,000 Shares up
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.31000001 = 3.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 970 @ 0.004 = 3.88 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0038 = 0.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 3243 @ 0.0037 = 11.9991 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0035 = 0.035 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 3000 @ 0.0035 = 10.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5000 @ 0.0035 = 17.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 6294 @ 0.0034 = 21.3996 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.0034 = 6.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0033 = 0.0099 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00321 = 0.0161 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 79375 @ 0.0032 = 254 BTC [-]
mod6: mircea_popescu: haha, nice shack!
mircea_popescu: !ticker GSDPT
mircea_popescu: DeaDTerra seems you need more out.
assbot: [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.004] [Ask: 0.0065] [Spread: 0.0025] [Last: 0.0032] [24hVol: 250.806703] [7dAvg: 0.00445071]
rg: ;;ticker
gribble: Best bid: 10.50001, Best ask: 10.55, Bid-ask spread: 0.04999, Last trade: 10.50001, 24 hour volume: 95480, 24 hour low: 9.9, 24 hour high: 10.62611
DeaDTerra: More then 100,000 ?
DeaDTerra: okay let me buy the shares on MPEX first
DeaDTerra: I don't want to end up oweing people shares and shit
mircea_popescu: seems the bid is still 40 not 32 or 34. but yea, prolly wise to buy first s.dice then issue more.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.405 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 21 @ 0.06 = 1.26 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 25 @ 0.07 = 1.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 25 @ 0.08 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 25 @ 0.09 = 2.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 24 @ 0.1 = 2.4 BTC [+]
smickles: man, people just get things wrong way too often https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1131185#msg1131185
smickles: !ticker gsdpt
assbot: [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.0034] [Ask: 0.0065] [Spread: 0.0031] [Last: 0.0032] [24hVol: 577.326353] [7dAvg: 0.00425358]
smickles: !ticker s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00320203 / 0.003232 (1621087 shares, 5,190.78 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00320203 / 0.003232 (1621087 shares, 5,190.78 BTC)
DeaDTerra: chill people moe share will be sold soon xD
mircea_popescu: smickles what nao ?
smickles: heh, i'm not part of that flam war DeaDTerra
ColdHardMetal: well, given that all the GLBSE volume has to go through MPEX, it would be pretty hard for the GLBSE number to be anywhere close to the MPEX one. unpossible even.
smickles: mircea_popescu: this guy said that things were playing out as he predicted, an arb op because the demand would be higher on glbse than mpex
mircea_popescu: o. mmkay.
smickles: ColdHardMetal: i would give the benifit of the doubt and think that we would exclude passthru volume from the mpex 'score'
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINRS] 4 @ 0.051 = 0.204 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ColdHardMetal so far glbse volume is technically not in mpex because we're only now working with DeaDTerra to get him through
smickles: also, this situation calls for an examination of the passthru bids too because there weren't enough available at the time
ColdHardMetal: after some of what I've seen in that thread I'm not sure I'd give anyone the benefit of anything lol
bitfoo: why are people so obsessed about keeping score anyway
mircea_popescu: there were supply problems on that side which distorted the true volume tho.
smickles: bitfoo: well, in my case, this was an easily ascertainable fact
DeaDTerra: I fucked up sorry. Now I am trying to fix it oki :)
mircea_popescu: relax dt, will be fine soonish
smickles: DeaDTerra: it's nothing against you
smickles: :)
mircea_popescu: you're in time to get this batch and everything.
mircea_popescu: .py 0.00320000 * 378913
markac: 1212.5216
DeaDTerra: Indeed, but I am a bit annoyed at myself as I had planned to do it last night. Then things went wrong, then the same this morining :P
mircea_popescu: there's plenty of room there for the ~500 btc glbse volume so far, so.
DeaDTerra: not my style to be late.
mircea_popescu: DeaDTerra i'd say no permanent damage done, really. some people overpaid on glbse, but mmm... well... i guess their bad really.
smickles: well, DeaDTerra, not just taking the btc and running helps you out goodwill
mircea_popescu: what do you plan to do now tho ? increase holdings factor ? or ?
smickles: er, helps out with goodwill
DeaDTerra: I plan to purchase shares to backup the shares already released then, sell more shares and repeat
DeaDTerra: until theres no more demand/supply
mircea_popescu: works.
mircea_popescu: <assbot> [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.0034]
DeaDTerra: I could throw in some of my money to the backing but I am worried that will start messing up my numbers xD
mircea_popescu: you need to sell moar tho.
smickles: there's about 147k in bids
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 10 @ 0.51 = 5.1 BTC [-]
smickles: (bids at or above .0032)
mircea_popescu: . 0.0032 * 147000
mircea_popescu: .py 0.0032 * 147000
markac: 470.4
mircea_popescu: seems it'll very close sell out.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 15000 @ 0.0032 = 48 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: Indeed
DeaDTerra: !ticker S.DICE
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00320201 / 0.003232 (1636087 shares, 5,238.78 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00320201 / 0.003232 (1636087 shares, 5,238.78 BTC)
smickles: DeaDTerra: what are you doing with the extra btc from the people who paid > .0032?
DeaDTerra: Keep for myself :)
DeaDTerra: They will be used to pay fees and such.
smickles: and how do you maintain 1:1 with the glbse seller's fees?
DeaDTerra: I will put in money myself if I notice that BTC are missing
DeaDTerra: The fee is pretty small so it shouldn't be too much of a problem
mircea_popescu: o that's a point, he gets free buys on mpex but he pays what, .5 on glbse ?
smickles: .5%
mircea_popescu: you're looking at ~5btc per 1k
smickles: once he does over Xbtc in sales
mircea_popescu: i guess you recoup on the first 1k worth of dividends
smickles: (i can't remember the value)
DeaDTerra: I am not doing this to make money, I am doing it as a service to support the community and Eric+SatoshIDice :)
DeaDTerra: I don't really care much if I brake even or not.
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't be a huge sum in any event.
smickles: i do think that putting you own btc in isn't cricket, it should at least be a loan to the passthru
smickles: even an interest free loan, as i have tended to do with the things i'm involved in
mircea_popescu: maybe you two should work together on making the reports for this thing
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15083 @ 0.00102089 = 15.3981 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: I guess :)
DeaDTerra: But how would I pay it back? Like during the next dividend?
DeaDTerra: Currently waiting on my deposit to his the exchange :)
DeaDTerra: Already tried to send in a buy order and it works, so I am all good on that part.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 16837 @ 0.00099725 = 16.7907 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11100 @ 0.0009875 = 10.9613 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9563 @ 0.00097147 = 9.2902 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: DeaDTerra so is it hard ?
mircea_popescu: (once you learn how to do it i mean :p )
DeaDTerra: ehm no.
DeaDTerra: I mean learning it is hard, and I think that the FAQ might need to be more specific for retards like me. But other then that it's not that hard.
DeaDTerra: It's a bit time consuming but once you get the script I guess it will be a lot faster
mircea_popescu: my guess is that as more people get familiar with it that are also not anon sociopaths, but pariticpate in communities etc
mircea_popescu: it will become sorta common knowledge
mod6: :)
bitfoo: also, there is a need for brokerages
DeaDTerra: Comeone GLBSE you can do it, send the withdraw :D
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.98121111 BTC [-]
bitfoo: then people can stop complaining about why all the stocks are not on their favorite exchange
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.98121111 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.98121111 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i think actually being a broker is the next revenue generator for btc
mircea_popescu: so far we've had scammer and fund manager
bitfoo: lol
DeaDTerra: I will start working on the other stuff I need to do mean while :)
DeaDTerra: I know people that have already made a lot from brokering (not sure how to bend it) and underwritings.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.98121111 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: Bulk orders and then resaling and such.
DeaDTerra: I am going to be starting up some other pass throughs and also launch GBF on GLBSE :)
DeaDTerra: I am working on a full redesign of the GBF system as it has to many flaws, it was fine when I worked with small amounts of investors, but it is not optimal right now
smickles: DeaDTerra: yeah, pay for it as expenses out of dividend receipts, unless your contract forbids it
DeaDTerra: Can't do that
DeaDTerra: I wrote the contract in a way so that I Can't do that :P
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.98111111 BTC [-]
smickles: < bitfoo> also, there is a need for brokerages <<< i keep hearing this, and as i am performing this service, and working on a good web interface for it, i feel like these sort of statements are sorta like "hurry up and finish the web ui smikles"
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.98111111 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: What will the site involve?
DeaDTerra: what will your brokage ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.966 BTC [-]
smickles: i will provider for people who want to buy and sell mpex listings (mpex at first, others as well, but later)
DeaDTerra: okay cool
smickles: it will be a simple interface for ease of use, but secure first
mod6: smickles: i updated your wot rating
mod6: ;;rated smickles
gribble: You rated user smickles on Sat Aug 25 09:37:02 2012, giving him a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: Runs MPOE.ETF and S^2CM on GLBSE, runs a brokerage service for MPEX. We have at least 1 OTC trade under our belt.
DeaDTerra: I have been thinking of starting pass throughs to some known lenders/investment sites. So that people can for example invest in a 90 Day bond for 1 BTC, then they get a daily dividend paid by me and they can liquidate when ever they want.
smickles: i'll have the buy and sell buttons that many seem to want
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.0003781 = 1.5502 BTC [-]
bitfoo: smickles, consider the statement as encouragement. :)
smickles: ooh, thank you mod6
mod6: rg, i figured it was time that I put in a rating too
mod6: ;;rated rg
gribble: You rated user rg on Sat Aug 25 09:26:21 2012, giving him a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: Runs BitVPS.com. Always helpful to clients and new guys on OTC. Diligently pays dividends every month!.
smickles: ;;rated rg
gribble: You rated user rg on Sun May 27 11:43:46 2012, giving him a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: None.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.5499 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 3 @ 0.122 = 0.366 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 10 @ 0.126 = 1.26 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 6 @ 0.129 = 0.774 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 25 @ 0.13 = 3.25 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 1 minute and 51 seconds
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 5 @ 0.13 = 0.65 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.0003781 = 4.575 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37500 @ 0.00037663 = 14.1236 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 6 @ 0.51 = 3.06 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 15 @ 0.0893 = 1.3395 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 25 @ 0.0892 = 2.23 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.089 = 0.178 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 10 @ 0.076 = 0.76 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 35 @ 0.075 = 2.625 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.072 = 0.144 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 14 @ 0.071 = 0.994 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 14 @ 0.07 = 0.98 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: still no dough from pirate huh.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 156875 @ 0.0032 = 502 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: 156875 purchased
mircea_popescu: nice.
mircea_popescu: now go sell moar lol
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 0.51 = 2.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 900 @ 0.0034 = 3.06 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 46625 @ 0.0032 = 149.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.0032 = 6.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23874 @ 0.00037663 = 8.9917 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28126 @ 0.00037516 = 10.5518 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: Hm I had to put in 20 more BTC to cover the GLBSE fees :(
DeaDTerra: this seems to be a expensive IPO xD
mircea_popescu: 20 btc ?!
DeaDTerra: yep
mircea_popescu: !ticker gsdpt
DeaDTerra: I did the calculations I was 20 BTC for the sign up fee + 22 or something like that short.
assbot: [GLBSE:GSDPT] [Bid: 0.0001] [Ask: 0.0032] [Spread: 0.0031] [Last: 0.0032] [24hVol: 735.986353] [7dAvg: 0.00420071]
mircea_popescu: .py 22/ 735.986353
markac: 0.0298918586062
DeaDTerra: oh well :P I will go and cry on the forums for donations :P
mircea_popescu: this can not be, 3% ?
DeaDTerra: Probably something wrong with my calculations.
DeaDTerra: I guess
DeaDTerra: I did total amount of shares bought + total amount of shares I can afford buying with the amount in my GLBSE account+ shares not yet issued
DeaDTerra: then I took 300,000 (amount issued so far) and minus that amount then times by 0.0032
DeaDTerra: nvm xD
DeaDTerra: hahah I can't count...
DeaDTerra: hahaha wow I am going for a glass of water brb
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5000 @ 0.0034 = 17 BTC [+]
Rothgar: look assbot still says there's demand
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.5445 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.54495 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.545 = 1.09 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5000 @ 0.0034 = 17 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: I am back
DeaDTerra: Evorhees :D
DeaDTerra: Hi :)
DeaDTerra: Situation is under controll, really sorry that it became such a mess :( Fuck up from my part.
usagi: What's a mess
DeaDTerra: I planeed to fix the backings + sell the shares yesterday
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 15 @ 0.065 = 0.975 BTC [-]
Rothgar: hello evoorhees
usagi: Well hopefully you will make enough from this to float again hehe
DeaDTerra: GLBSE bugged up and I had to go to bed, I then tried to redeme myself this morning but I only had an hour and as I didn't fully master MPex I didn't manage to get the backing up and I didn't place enough asks.
usagi: So how many discount shares can you get me :>
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.545 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: I will, I have asked to go down in hours and I will probably quit if I need more time.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.0034 = 1.7 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: None it's a pass though xD
evoorhees: heya rothgar
DeaDTerra: I don't get a hello ;( xD
Rothgar: :)
usagi: What do you mean go down in hours, at your job?
DeaDTerra: Yes :)
usagi: If you do this right, it becomes your job
DeaDTerra: I know xD
DeaDTerra: I make more an hour doing bitcoin stuff then I do my regular job :P, so I will probably quit it soon anyways
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5000 @ 0.0034 = 17 BTC [+]
Rothgar: DeaDTerra, yes join the agora
evoorhees: haha
evoorhees: not only is it the more moral economy, but it pays better ;)
Rothgar: :) :)
nefario: evoorhees: comfortable on your pile of money?
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 60 @ 0.1021 = 6.126 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.1021 = 1.021 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: hahahhaha xD
Rothgar: What's a pile of btc look like?
Rothgar: If you have time to listen to some music http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/31694/1/
evoorhees: we'll see how the rest of the offering goes nefario :)
Rothgar: english
evoorhees: you know bitcoin are like pokemon, gotta catch 'em all
DeaDTerra: HAHAHH xD
nefario: you might need an oxygen mask though
nefario: with how high you'll get
evoorhees: oh you think I'd spend the money at silk road? :)
nefario: no I was talking about altitude
Rothgar: yea, I feel that the 5M will be a slow sell but eventually it will sell
nefario: from a tall pile of moonay
DeaDTerra: I think you should invest it in say a good fund, hmm I mean Gamma... hm yea a fund maybe :P
DeaDTerra: Nah if I would get that much BTC, I would sell of part of it the other I would place in a offline wallet
nefario: The GLBSE startup fund
evoorhees: most of it is def going in an offline wallet, safe and sound
nefario: see
DeaDTerra: Evorhees=pirate omg!
nefario: pile of money
nefario: put it on a usb
nefario: then
nefario: in a sock
evoorhees: I doubt more than 5% of the pile will be sold for fiat
evoorhees: though, I heard about an awesome casino game called satoshiDICE so I might spend it all there
Azelphur: evoorhees: did you get pympex working yestreday? mircea was asking but I was sick so wasn't very useful
DeaDTerra: all on red please *puts 5 mill on the table* *pokerface*
evoorhees: yeah I used pympex
DeaDTerra: I go manually :P
Azelphur: cool :)
evoorhees: you know, I never even used the command line before bitcoin stuff
DeaDTerra: no not really
evoorhees: it's a new world to me
DeaDTerra: I just couldn't get it to owkr
DeaDTerra: same for me :P
DeaDTerra: hm with all this chaos I have forgotten to go poke on Alberto and JRO xD
mircea_popescu: <evoorhees> not only is it the more moral economy, but it pays better ;) << this
mircea_popescu: sadly not true for many of the people btc really needs tho.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.98439 = 3.9376 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.98449 = 1.969 BTC [+]
usagi: NYAN.B is doing very well, thank god. It's already covered this week's div for A and B all by itself with leftovers for C
mircea_popescu: usagi still nothing from pirate i take it ?
DeaDTerra: I could probably be performing very well, but I need more time and money.
nefario: I like the seeming silence
nefario: of pirates defenders
DeaDTerra: I am thinking of doing a deposit campaign again. Though I need to clear my portfolio of a couple of assets that I need to get rid off before I launch another campaign.
nefario: no more pass throughs on GLBSE
DeaDTerra: Yea :(
nefario: for the pirate sort of thing
DeaDTerra: Pirate is really full of crap either way.
mircea_popescu: a very good ideea that nefario.
nefario: it's done a lot of damage to the bitcoin economy IMO
nefario: and has a destabilising effect on the market
nefario: GLBSE included
nefario: its like
ColdHardMetal: it's the distortion of expected returns that I think has been the worst thing.
nefario: legalising heroin
nefario: ja
nefario: ok if you legalised heroin you'd make a lot off tax
usagi: No nothing from pirate yet :/
nefario: but then everyone is a heroin addict
Rothgar: nefario not everyone
nefario: well ok
nefario: those who have heroin allergies wont
mircea_popescu: nefario : absolutely, very true.
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0899 = 0.1798 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: running an exchange is certainly a responsability among other things.
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 3 @ 0.08 = 0.24 BTC [-]
Rothgar: nefario those with half a brain won't
Rothgar: I won't and I think it's cynical to say that I will.
assbot: [GLBSE] [CPA] 2 @ 0.0989 = 0.1978 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Rothgar still, the argument can be brought, it's immoral to leave a sharp pitchfork in the grass.
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 190 @ 0.1 = 19 BTC [+]
Rothgar: Is it immoral to NOT search every field for pitchforks?
mircea_popescu: that, no.
mircea_popescu: quite the contrary i'd say.
assbot: [GLBSE] [THUNDERCM.MIF.SHARES] 5 @ 0.4207 = 2.1035 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 11 minutes and 53 seconds
nefario: Rothgar: even if you didn't it would still hurt you
nefario: heroin addicts steal
nefario: and effect people other than themselves
Rothgar: Your argument is an argument not to sell heroin in your store. It doesn't justify breaking into people's homes to justify heroin
Rothgar: They would steal less if heroin was legal, lower price.
Rothgar: and the laws do nothing to prevent people form stealing
mircea_popescu: Rothgar hard to know what would be if.
Rothgar: It would be like before 197-something
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 71528 @ 0.0032 = 228.8896 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [THUNDERCM.MIF.SHARES] 5 @ 0.4314 = 2.157 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: 1870 you mean ?
Rothgar: No drug laws started in the 1970's
nefario: really?
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure heroin was made illegal before alcohol in the us
nefario: but not the UK :p
mircea_popescu: lol k
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: are you fucking kidding me?
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 no ?
Rothgar: 1970
Rothgar: Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 (Controlled Substance Act of 1970)--
mircea_popescu: ya but
mircea_popescu: that's not the first, it's just the last.
Diablo-D3: what Rothgar said
Diablo-D3: In 1924, the United States Congress banned its sale, importation or manufacture
Rothgar: 1830's
Rothgar: In Massachusetts, first law to limit alcohol availability in U.S.-- forbade selling to Indians.
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.09989 = 0.2997 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: mkay, well, im not really an expert on the matter
bearbones: howdy
Rothgar: Anyway 1970 was the year drugs were banned
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu got pwned.
Rothgar: hello bearbones
mircea_popescu: heya.
bearbones: mircea, I head you run mpex. is that true?
mircea_popescu: yes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27146 @ 0.00037524 = 10.1863 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: you do?!
mircea_popescu: d'oh ?
Diablo-D3: then why the fuck is mpex such shit
mircea_popescu: why you think it's called MP Ex ?
bearbones: lol
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 you srsly didn't know ?!
Diablo-D3: dude, you just randomly showed up in this channel one day
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINTORRENTZ] 1 @ 0.666 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
bearbones: mircea, I'd like to purchase some of evoorhees's satoshi dice shares.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 4 @ 0.45 = 1.8 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: bearbones aite, you got a mpex acct/wanna make one or no/no ?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: why the fuck do I have to pay you money to be able to own assets on mpex
bearbones: don't have one
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 4 @ 0.44 = 1.76 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.089 BTC [-]
bearbones: i gather it is a python script, yes?
usagi: If you want to buy satoshidice
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 well... it's a select club. either bring many topless ho's or else money.
usagi: Make a free GLBSE account and just buy it
usagi: That pretty much sums it up.
mircea_popescu: bearbones yes, there's a python script to make access easier. i'll also need your gpg public key and 20 btc.
assbot: [GLBSE] [GREEN] 6 @ 0.749 = 4.494 BTC [-]
Rothgar: or use a broker such as smickles
usagi: The real problem with mpex, mircea, is that it just isn't competitive
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15153 @ 0.00037524 = 5.686 BTC [+]
bearbones: dude, 20btc to join? :o
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1321 @ 0.00037897 = 0.5006 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37207 @ 0.00037973 = 14.1286 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: usagi in what terms ?
usagi: Smickles might be able to save you
mircea_popescu: bearbones yea. if you're not interested tho, as they say, there's brokers or passthrough on glbse.
usagi: You have a very narrow target market and that market exists to pass thru your securities to GLBSE.
usagi: You need to think about that
usagi: MPEX needs a nose job :/
mircea_popescu: usagi get real. mpex sells more than glbse by a large margin.
usagi: Oh I saw the numbers
mircea_popescu: well so then ?
assbot: [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 3 @ 0.1699 = 0.5097 BTC [-]
usagi: Dunno I just think there's something missing
usagi: LIke a fine soup that has no pepper
mircea_popescu: this is like the FOSS : bring your own!
nefario: FOSS?
mircea_popescu: free and open source software.
nefario: ah
nefario: then FLOSS
nefario: Free Libre OSS
Rothgar: usagi: Now mpex is a fine soup?
mod6: im working on BitOTTer for android too, it's coming along, which will help you non-command line dudes to trade MPEx
mod6: <3 mpex
mircea_popescu: o yea, how's that working ?
mod6: going ok so far. i don't have much in the way of screen shots quite yet.
nefario: is it as far as the GLBSE android app?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.4451 = 2.6706 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: floss just sounds gross
mod6: i've had to change some stuff around a bit to make it easier. and its important for me to make sure this tool will only grab this data from mpex on a periodic basis, etc.
Rothgar: or clean
Rothgar: hygienic
nefario: does foss sound any better?
mircea_popescu: hmm...
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 30 @ 0.4 = 12 BTC [-]
Rothgar: We need to FLOSS out Microsoft
mircea_popescu: .4 by now huh
mod6: anyway, im working on it as often as I can, but my day-job gets in the way a lot.
mod6: nefario: i have no idea.
usagi: Ahh yeah thats it
usagi: MPEX looks like open source and GLBSE looks like commercial software
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26871 @ 0.00037516 = 10.0809 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25129 @ 0.000375 = 9.4234 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 137 @ 0.0034 = 0.4658 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0899 = 0.7192 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;seen diablo-d3
gribble: diablo-d3 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 minutes and 25 seconds ago: <Diablo-D3> mircea_popescu: why the fuck do I have to pay you money to be able to own assets on mpex
mircea_popescu: lol the sheer shock of me owning mpex ruined his interwebz.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.4079 = 2.4474 BTC [-]
nefario: I was under the impression that the monthly volume on mpex is 1/3 of that on GLBSE
nefario: at least it wasn't that good when I last looked at it
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 2 @ 0.53529144 = 1.0706 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1517 @ 0.000999 = 1.5155 BTC [+]
nefario: GLBSE has done just short of 13K BTC in the last 5 days
nefario: and this is a slow month
nefario: mircea_popescu: whats the trade volume on mpex?
mircea_popescu: ~150k this month
nefario: BTC?
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09979 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: tbh i don't understand your 5 day scheme. what's wrong with 7 days 30 days ?
mircea_popescu: yes btc.
nefario: and thats published to the channel here?
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 2600 @ 0.0034 = 8.84 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: yes ?
mircea_popescu: looky
mircea_popescu: !ticker GIGAMINING
mircea_popescu: !ticker F.GIGA.ETF
DeaDTerra: Mostly option trading :)
assbot: [GLBSE:GIGAMINING] [Bid: 0.966] [Ask: 0.98449] [Spread: 0.01849] [Last: 0.98449] [24hVol: 88.33579666] [7dAvg: 0.99194366]
assbot: [MPEX:F.GIGA.ETF] 1day: 0.00097114 / 0.00099582 / 0.00102135 (339144 shares, 337.73 BTC), 30day: 0.00078056 / 0.00100597 / 0.00115139 (6047892 shares, 6,084.05 BTC)
mircea_popescu: that's what, 4x.
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 3 @ 0.5097 = 1.5291 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCMC] 4 @ 0.5098 = 2.0392 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.0899 = 2.2475 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43003 @ 0.00037609 = 16.173 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17412 @ 0.00037973 = 6.6119 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9661 @ 0.00038302 = 3.7004 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62600 @ 0.00038319 = 23.9877 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1918 @ 0.00038415 = 0.7368 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00038454 = 5.2682 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29479 @ 0.00038831 = 11.447 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00038836 = 5.9807 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25711 @ 0.00038989 = 10.0245 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8251 @ 0.00039021 = 3.2196 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10365 @ 0.00039114 = 4.0542 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.4451 = 2.6706 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3750 @ 0.0032 = 12 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: Here's a draft of GBF new infrastructure any thoughts or feedback?
DeaDTerra: note as said only a draft
DeaDTerra: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kcWMLOT7j7wLutz5mcUCcb69mzP2DQjXk93vUhpatnI/edit?pli=1
nefario: you got a non Google docs link?
nefario: China here
nefario: ...
nefario: banned
nefario: blocked
mod6: tor?
nefario: also blocked
mircea_popescu: they can block tor ?!
DeaDTerra: what works Nefario?
DeaDTerra: pastebin?
nefario: ja
nefario: mircea_popescu: yes
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu, you can block exit nodes
nefario: kakobrekla: no
DeaDTerra: http://pastebin.com/j6iGVM6n
mircea_popescu: well that kinda defeats the entire point of tor neh ?
nefario: they get a list of all public tor bridges
mircea_popescu: m,ebbe i dun get it
nefario: and block connections to them
kakobrekla: aha
kakobrekla: i thought you were talking about site
kakobrekla: sry
nefario: DeaDTerra: how is the interest rate earned to pay investors?
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5100 @ 0.00101257 = 5.1641 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 15 @ 0.1 = 1.5 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: It's a investment fund
DeaDTerra: 100% transparent
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2117 @ 0.00102135 = 2.1622 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9083 @ 0.00102242 = 9.2866 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: the whole of our portfolio can be viewed, it's updated daily :)
DeaDTerra: I have run it off GLBSE since April
DeaDTerra: but I wish to integrate to GLBSE.
nefario: of
nefario: this is your investment fund?
DeaDTerra: No guaranteed profits, no guaranteed balanced.
DeaDTerra: Yes this has nothing to do with the thing I talked about before.
DeaDTerra: I have a lot of balls in the air right now
nefario: ok
mircea_popescu: wy so many balls
DeaDTerra: There's a lot I want to do :)
DeaDTerra: The Pass throughs should be little administration once it's up though.
DeaDTerra: The fund is always a working process, but right now I am going through some upgrading and infrastructure changes. This one needs to be done due to that, we got to many withdraw requests and we can't liquidate fast enough to pay them.
DeaDTerra: Hence the system is kind of flawed
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.10699999 = 0.428 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.408 = 0.816 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: liquidity is always a problem
DeaDTerra: anyways, any thoughts? any flaws or concerns you can see?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.4499 = 0.8998 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: It is but I think that this system deals better with the liquidity then the other one.
DeaDTerra: Right now I have been having withdraws queued up for several weeks and due to that I can't take all the investments I want to, the performance have been effected :8
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 4 @ 0.4499 = 1.7996 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: I am looking to fix that problem with this once and for all. I am also going to contact some of my bigger investors which have pledged to deposit some BTC one the portfolio is cleaned up (almost there)
EskimoBob: !pl HYDRO.BONDS 1.73
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: HYDRO.BONDS [1@1.73BTC] paid: 0.34271179 BTC. Last price: 1.64 BTC. Capital gain: -0.09 BTC. Total: 0.25271179 BTC. (14.6%)
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.4499 = 0.8998 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: Any feedback? :P
DeaDTerra: I just want to make sure there's no major flaw
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0899 = 0.2697 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREASIC] 4 @ 0.775 = 3.1 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: seems pretty straightforward.
ColdHardMetal: why not do .25% per week admin fee reducton instead of 1 for every 4? maybe with a 4 week minimum.
ColdHardMetal: allows a bit more flexibility, while still being long term.
DeaDTerra: yea sure :)
DeaDTerra: didn't think of that :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00037951 = 8.1595 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: is that admin fee calculated to profit or to capital ?
DeaDTerra: to profit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i don't see why it would deter anyone.
mircea_popescu: banks charge fees (much smaller) to capital.
mircea_popescu: for early withdrawals.
DeaDTerra: I don't want to take anything if I am not doing well.
DeaDTerra: It's my responsibility to make sure the fund goes well if it does not then I don't deserve any reward
mircea_popescu: if all i get is 5% extra of the profit i don't care you want me to lock down, i won't.
DeaDTerra: Okay :P Are you saying it's to low of a benefit?
mircea_popescu: yes. present value of money is high in btc
mircea_popescu: the fact i can take it out any time is worth way more than 5% of 1% or w/e a week.
DeaDTerra: Okay what would you suggest?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i'm better at pointing out flaws than at fixing things.
DeaDTerra: hahah okay :P
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0034 = 0.34 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: !ticker s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0032 / 0.00320176 / 0.003232 (1869240 shares, 5,984.87 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00320176 / 0.003232 (1869240 shares, 5,984.87 BTC)
mircea_popescu: ahh, almost sold out then
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 4 @ 0.98999 = 3.96 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: Though if you take the short investor path you get paid 80% of the profit generated while if you take the long term you can get up to 96.5%
mircea_popescu: ya so i deposit 1k btc.
DeaDTerra: 10% admin fee + 10% insurance for the NAV
mircea_popescu: in one week i could make say 16 or 19 ?
mircea_popescu: for 3 btc im not locking down the 1k
DeaDTerra: hm I guess.
Rothgar: Does anyone know who pirate is?
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.52 BTC [-]
farfi: ugh
Rothgar: Does anyone know what that funny address was about http://1dkybekt5s2gdtv7aqw6rqepavnsryhoym.com/
Rothgar: as in "real" identity?
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.45 = 0.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 78 @ 0.063 = 4.914 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: wow
DeaDTerra: the censorship in BTCST is fucking redicilous
DeaDTerra: I was going to check when Pirate was last seen i got auto silenced...
BTCHero: ;;seen #btcst pirateat40
gribble: pirateat40 was last seen in #btcst 20 hours, 55 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <pirateat40> johnthedong2, a few hours.
DeaDTerra: fucking censorship, they are suppressing the citizens of the IRC channel. They are centralized :( They are going against the basics of Bitcoins
BTCHero: there you go bud
DeaDTerra: thanks :)
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 110 @ 0.0898 = 9.878 BTC [-]
DeaDTerra: Still pissed about it though
farfi: there was spamming there thats why
Rothgar: I've had two strange trades
DeaDTerra: I don't care you don't auto silence people...
BTCHero: imsaguy does
DeaDTerra: He can go throw himself into a wall
BTCHero: -!- mode/#btcst [+q *!~gribble@unaffiliated/nanotube/bot/gribble] by imsaguy2
BTCHero: 15:04:05 <@imsaguy2> gribble : You may talk again when you learn to behave.
BTCHero: DeaDTerra: even gribble gets autobanned there
mircea_popescu: srsly, if i cared i'd join.
BTCHero: mircea_popescu: sorry
mircea_popescu: no big deal, jus' sayin'.
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9817 @ 0.00102242 = 10.0371 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1283 @ 0.00102409 = 1.3139 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITCOINTORRENTZ] 5 @ 0.666 = 3.33 BTC [+]
Rothgar: hey help me out
Rothgar: let's chat
Rothgar: I need to figure something out.
mircea_popescu: sup Rothgar ?
Rothgar: great
Rothgar: mircea_popescu, I did some sucessful trades with someone who claims to be a neeb
Rothgar: noob
Rothgar: But they're not
mircea_popescu: aha ?
Rothgar: Could we go private
mircea_popescu: o which reminds me : DeaDTerra register your name with nickserv! you jhad an impostor earlier tryingto defraud people
mircea_popescu: Rothgar sure
Rothgar: great
assbot: [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0898 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 40 @ 0.10699999 = 4.28 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00037607 = 15.0428 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13837 @ 0.000375 = 5.1889 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 1000 @ 0.0010078 = 1.0078 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: okay how do I register?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00037712 = 3.7712 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 10 @ 0.148 = 1.48 BTC [+]
bitfoo: /msg nickserv help register
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 22 @ 0.148 = 3.256 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 20 @ 0.149 = 2.98 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: done
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 425 @ 0.0034 = 1.445 BTC [+]
bitfoo: also, "/msg nickserv set enforce on" is useful
bitfoo: that way, if someone tries to impersonate you, they'll be kicked out if they don't authenticate
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.09978999 = 0.2994 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: thanks :)
bitfoo: np :)
Rothgar: DeaDTerra, thanks for preventing scams
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 7 @ 0.09978999 = 0.6985 BTC [+]
DeaDTerra: No problems, I want to avoid scams as much as anyone else
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.12818 = 0.2564 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 3 @ 0.08200001 = 0.246 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 34 @ 0.082 = 2.788 BTC [-]
Rothgar: when I started with this OTC someone would use my nick
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 19455 @ 0.0032 = 62.256 BTC [-]
Rothgar: I had to register too, and I wasn't as prominent
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 742 @ 0.0032 = 2.3744 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09978999 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.9701 = 3.8804 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 15 @ 0.97 = 14.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.966 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.965 = 5.79 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.96 = 9.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.9402 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.94011 = 1.8802 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 8 @ 0.94 = 7.52 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.94 = 3.76 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.921 = 4.605 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.901 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 100 @ 0.9001 = 90.01 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 86 @ 0.9 = 77.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 14 @ 0.9 = 12.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.895 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: !pl GIGAMINING 1.25
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: GIGAMINING [1@1.25BTC] paid: 0.39930096 BTC. Last price: 0.895 BTC. Capital gain: -0.355 BTC. Total: 0.04430096 BTC. (3.5%)
assbot: [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.0769 BTC [-]
EskimoBob: only 2 trades at that price so it's more like 1.55+
EskimoBob: !pl GIGAMINING 1.55
assbot: Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while).
assbot: GIGAMINING [1@1.55BTC] paid: 0.39930096 BTC. Last price: 0.895 BTC. Capital gain: -0.655 BTC. Total: -0.25569904 BTC. (-16.5%)
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 0.35001337 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60500 @ 0.000375 = 22.6875 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.10699999 = 0.428 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 9 @ 0.35001337 = 3.1501 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 20 @ 0.35 = 7 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 20 @ 0.3402 = 6.804 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 1.095 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 9 @ 1.098 = 9.882 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 8 @ 1.1 = 8.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 9 @ 1.17 = 10.53 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 19 @ 1.17899999 = 22.401 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BDT] 2 @ 1.17899999 = 2.358 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.3302337 = 0.6605 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 9 @ 0.3301337 = 2.9712 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 24 @ 0.34 = 8.16 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 17 @ 0.33500001 = 5.695 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 18 @ 0.5 = 9 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 20 @ 0.55 = 11 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 30 @ 0.55 = 16.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIF.5-10.MININGBOND] 20 @ 0.55 = 11 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN] 51 @ 1 = 51 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 7 @ 0.75 = 5.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 15 @ 0.935 = 14.025 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 14 @ 0.941 = 13.174 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4834 @ 0.000375 = 1.8128 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17058 @ 0.00037475 = 6.3925 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29708 @ 0.00037401 = 11.1111 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.4451 = 2.6706 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 6 @ 0.7 = 4.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.34 = 1.36 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.4999 = 0.9998 BTC [+]
smickles: anyone able to float me a couple hundred mpexbtc until mircea can confirm a deposit?
assbot: [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0898 = 0.3592 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [YABMC] 4 @ 0.12818 = 0.5127 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09978999 BTC [+]
bitfoo: sorry, used it all up today
smickles: thanks for you consideration tho :)
rdponticelli: I can send you 10...
rdponticelli: Would it be worth the hassle?
bitfoo: yeah, I have 4, but I assume that's pointless when you're looking for a couple hundred :)
smickles: heh, yeah ;)
rdponticelli: Yea, I assume so, but we can ask... :)
smickles: yeah, no harm in asking
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2003 @ 0.0003749 = 0.7509 BTC [+]
smickles: but for 'the hassle' i can probably just wait for the deposit to go thru
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00037712 = 4.6009 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30400 @ 0.00037736 = 11.4717 BTC [+]
bitfoo: deposits should really be automated...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00037863 = 6.0581 BTC [+]
rdponticelli: Yea, I'm fine with withdrawals being reviewed
rdponticelli: For security, but deposits?
bitfoo: my thoughts exactly
assbot: [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0034 = 3.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 4 @ 0.94949 = 3.798 BTC [-]
smickles: deposits may be this way because the wallet is offline
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCWEB] 10 @ 0.1096 = 1.096 BTC [-]
assbot: [GLBSE] [BTCWEB] 40 @ 0.1098 = 4.392 BTC [+]
bitfoo: that doesn't matter right, deposits can easily be watched without the private key
bitfoo: http://blockchain.info/address/1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx
bitfoo: hehe, no worries, happens to the best of us
assbot: [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 8 @ 0.0039 = 0.0312 BTC [-]
bitfoo: what's interesting though, is that the address has only ever received 9494 BTC
bitfoo: and as far as I know there is only a single deposit address for the exchange
smickles: there are other ways to get funds in