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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.095 = 0.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.05850606 = 0.234 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.03804682 = 0.5707 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36550 @ 0.00093222 = 34.0726 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.1374 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 556 @ 0.095 = 52.82 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: moiety: and am i the only nonmarried person left on the planet << bitcoinpete is right, I am not married, but sometimes it sure feels like it ~_~
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 30 @ 0.03949969 = 1.185 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 31 @ 0.095 = 2.945 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: living together?
bitcoinpete: http://international.sueddeutsche.de/post/85917094540/germany-plans-to-ban-tech-companies-that-play-ball-with
assbot: Germany Plans To Ban Tech Companies That Play Ball With NSA
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.00444228 = 0.4309 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 17 @ 0.02290455 = 0.3894 BTC [+] {6}
bitcoinpete: ;;later tell BingoBoingo quite enjoyed the medium article on crap computing, other than the "we the people" rahrah finish. good find
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0325 = 0.1625 BTC [-]
moiety: http://www.kctv5.com/story/25568078/bitcoin-used-to-buy-500000-olathe-home BigFatLiar Josh bought a house
assbot: Bitcoin used to buy $500,000 Kansas home - KCTV5
thestringpuller: lol https://www.mywot.com/
assbot: Safe Browsing Tool | WOT (Web of Trust)
thestringpuller: bitcoinpete: not even. and it still feels like we're married.
thestringpuller: damn I would lose my mind if we lived together
thestringpuller: ~_~
bitcoinpete: some things would be easier, some less
thestringpuller: yea plenty of "playtime" i presume but i barely have any time as it is
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11433 @ 0.00093234 = 10.6594 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00093463 = 21.6834 BTC [+]
moiety: lol "The house will be delivered in June! mean September, mean next February."
bitcoinpete: moiety: this is the sex weeks pad?
moiety: no thats the ending line on the josh fromg bfl house buying article
moiety: still waiting to hear about the sex weeks flat but its only been a day i guess
moiety: the guy told me he was busy doing things til thursday (today now)
moiety: everything should be easier if you live with the right person
bitcoinpete: moiety: lol wow, just read that zerlan thing. dood is crazy to spend $500k on a house just so he can make a headline on a weasly local rag.
bitcoinpete: if he has no bezzlebucks, he could at least find a landlord to rent from
bitcoinpete: or a payment plan
bitcoinpete: 1,000 btc house is gonna be the next 10,000 btc pizza
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 170 @ 0.03949969 = 6.7149 BTC [+]
moiety: i reckon the couple should read up on his and squat, like just refuse to move out for ages and keep giving him extended dates for when they will get out
moiety: him* not his
moiety: its actually the anniversary of the btc pizza thing today
thestringpuller: moiety: sex weeks?
thestringpuller: lol
moiety: i typod six lol
thestringpuller: lolololol
thestringpuller: I know what moiety is thinking about ;)
moiety: well it does come up often in this channel
bitcoinpete: moiety: anniversary? hey, waddya know
bitcoinpete: at least zohan can keep enjoying his house
bitcoinpete: slightly less shocking than the pizza
thestringpuller: HAH
moiety: o no i lie to you, it was the 18th https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=137.0
assbot: Pizza for bitcoins?
bitcoinpete: well that's all for me this eve. have funz
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.095 = 0.57 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 180 @ 0.095 = 17.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14720 @ 0.00093737 = 13.7981 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32080 @ 0.00093829 = 30.1003 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: Apocalyptic: what happened to OTC?
thestringpuller: It's worse than 4chan.
Apocalyptic: heh
thestringpuller: Like I literally feel physically ill trying to traverse that channel...
Apocalyptic: it's not that bad usually
thestringpuller: everyone seems frightened as shit to trade so the market seems to have dried up...
Apocalyptic: "so the market seems to have dried up..." that's true
benkay: <bitcoinpete> benkay ain't married. yet // hue
Apocalyptic: tough generally I feel like it's not that people are frightened
thestringpuller: benkay: you said you had a wife
Apocalyptic: it's just that they have realized that trading 500 usd back and forth isn't really worth it
thestringpuller: Man i used to buy everything otc
thestringpuller: I"ve bought steam games
Apocalyptic: that's still going today
thestringpuller: i bought an r-pi
thestringpuller: guess i gotta find some dark pools
Apocalyptic: the time atm doesn't help either
thestringpuller: I hate linking checking accounts to the exchanges. Kind of annoying.
thestringpuller: yea I guess if I fish long enough one will eventually bite
Apocalyptic: if you try in the end of the afternoon PST you'll get a lot more response imo
thestringpuller: thanks for the help Apocalyptic; it's much appreciated
danielpbarron: there are trades in -otc you just have to find them amidst the idiocy
thestringpuller: idiocy is an understatement
danielpbarron: trying to convince them to do cash in the mail instead of paypal
danielpbarron: i've had some luck
thestringpuller: Easy is just cash deposit into a bank account
danielpbarron: i don't like banks
thestringpuller: or a moneygram transfer
danielpbarron: i think cash in the mail is easier
danielpbarron: it's like selling any other product
danielpbarron: pack it up, ship it out
thestringpuller: Damn. Once upon a time, Azelphur did escrow for me.
thestringpuller: It was such a neat experience
Apocalyptic: danielpbarron, inbefore the mail doesn't arrive
thestringpuller: Sent him coins.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25737 @ 0.00093844 = 24.1526 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: Then waited on product from the other party
thestringpuller: I wish I could just find a supplier since most of my income stream is still in fiat unfortunately :(
danielpbarron: yeah i want to make connections with miners
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43783 @ 0.00093355 = 40.8736 BTC [-] {5}
thestringpuller: !ticker M F.MPIF
assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021551 / 0.00021725 / 0.00021726 (97610 shares, 21.21 BTC), 30D: 0.000215 / 0.00021527 / 0.00021726 (1151600 shares, 247.91 BTC)
thestringpuller: !last M F.MPIF
assbot: Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22136 @ 0.00092841 = 20.5513 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 880 @ 0.00021726 = 0.1912 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14376 @ 0.00092745 = 13.333 BTC [-] {3}
Duffer1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269191.msg6840019#msg6840019
assbot: [HAVELOCK] Crypto Financial (CFIG) Official Thread
Duffer1: didn't we have this discussion in here? exchange in a box
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.095 = 1.995 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.03949979 = 0.316 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 171 @ 0.00447969 = 0.766 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 47 @ 0.00456859 = 0.2147 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00092662 = 6.7643 BTC [-] {2}
decimation: LoL that Moldbug hit piece. "Why bother with mass appeal, when you?re rebuilding the ancien regime?"
decimation: Well duh. "As I soldiered through the Moldbug canon, my reactions numbed. Here he is expressing sympathy for poor, persecuted Senator Joe McCarthy. Big surprise. Here he claims ?America is a communist country.? Sure, whatever."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15240 @ 0.00092654 = 14.1205 BTC [-]
decimation: well with the quality of those arguments, the author is well on the way to becoming the anti-Moldbug
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00092585 = 1.8517 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.095 = 1.805 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5959 @ 0.00092506 = 5.5124 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00092506 = 22.2939 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33451 @ 0.00092568 = 30.9649 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26372 @ 0.00092872 = 24.4922 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0225 = 0.1125 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25484 @ 0.00092877 = 23.6688 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.0383001 = 0.1149 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.023 = 0.115 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41580 @ 0.00092641 = 38.5201 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00092846 = 20.7047 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26227 @ 0.00092583 = 24.2817 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0221001 = 0.221 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 28 @ 0.02202062 = 0.6166 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.02200007 = 0.308 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00456472 = 0.4565 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26121 @ 0.00093032 = 24.3009 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <bitcoinpete> moiety: lol wow, just read that zerlan thing. dood is crazy to spend $500k on a house just so he can make a headline on a weasly local rag. << i think you misunderstand how josh works. he doesn't actually DO the things he claims to have done. he merely claims them.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20615 @ 0.00093219 = 19.2171 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 494.29, Best ask: 494.7, Bid-ask spread: 0.41000, Last trade: 494.7, 24 hour volume: 5816.91401138, 24 hour low: 490.3, 24 hour high: 498.97, 24 hour vwap: 494.997143609
mircea_popescu: <Apocalyptic> it's just that they have realized that trading 500 usd back and forth isn't really worth it << that'll be the day
mircea_popescu: decimation> well with the quality of those arguments, the author is well on the way to becoming the anti-Moldbug << something tells me the author spent his youth clicking through cat pictures while someone on the phone was tryhing to educate them.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.095 = 1.52 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00093257 = 10.9577 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30147 @ 0.00093326 = 28.135 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 41 @ 0.48746307 = 19.986 BTC [+] {7}
danielpbarron: !up Naranja
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4909999 = 0.982 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: Naranja was asking in -otc if there is still any options trading
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00449 = 0.2021 BTC [-]
Apocalyptic: !up Dizzle
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.4909999 = 3.928 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20896 @ 0.00093945 = 19.6307 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.49833296 = 2.99 BTC [+] {3}
[]bot: Bet placed: 50 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day" http://bitbet.us/bet/677/ Odds: 88(Y):12(N) by coin, 82(Y):18(N) by weight. Total bet: 102.47158113 BTC. Current weight: 13,208.
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day :: 90.09 B (88%) on Yes, 12.38 B (12%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 1 day| weight: 13`208 (100`000 to 1)
mircea_popescu: !up Naranja
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla nao []bot and assbot are triggering each other
Apocalyptic: !up Dizzle
Dizzle: 'lo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49096 @ 0.00093983 = 46.1419 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00455774 = 0.4558 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0225 = 0.1125 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 122 @ 0.00284566 = 0.3472 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.498999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.095 = 1.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 577 @ 0.00282443 = 1.6297 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.023 = 0.115 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.4993221 = 8.9878 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00469387 = 2.3469 BTC [+] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03253439 = 0.1301 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26050 @ 0.00093653 = 24.3966 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !up adrrr
Naphex: mircea_popescu: http://www.radugeorgescu.com/2014/05/05/the-next-big-thing-bitcoin-101/
assbot: The next big thing Bitcoin 101 | Radu Georgescu
adrrr: pump?
Naphex: nah just romanians discovering bitcoin
Apocalyptic: I saw romanian pm met with Biden
adrrr: romanians? have u got a link to an article?
Apocalyptic: http://www.greenwichtime.com/news/world/article/Biden-Punish-Russia-if-it-meddles-in-Ukraine-5494122.php
assbot: Biden: Punish Russia if it meddles in Ukraine - GreenwichTime
adrrr: ty
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 214 @ 0.00078052 = 0.167 BTC [-] {4}
Apocalyptic: Naphex, doesn't look like that average clueless article about Bitcoin
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, is this Georgescu someone notable in Romanian business ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 156 @ 0.0007801 = 0.1217 BTC [-]
Naphex: Apocalyptic: Romanian Entrepreneur
Apocalyptic: i got that from his site
Naphex: owned or still owns GeCad
Naphex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeCAD_Software
assbot: GeCAD Software - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Apocalyptic: however today everyone can call himself whatever he likes
Apocalyptic: ty
Naphex: including epayment which does most of the cc processing for online shops
Naphex: in romania
Naphex: which now got rebranded as http://www.payu.ro/
assbot: PayU | Integrator de plati online
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic yes, he is one of the precious few antrepreneurs that actually made their own money.
mircea_popescu: naphex he didn't even take too long. lol.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.03848689 = 0.5773 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00093653 = 0.5619 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: anyway i guess ima leave him a comment.
Naphex: you should invite him over :)
Apocalyptic: gotta promote -assets
fluffypony: just shake dat -assets gurl
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 17 @ 0.0386011 = 0.6562 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: Naphex so far i just welcomed him to 2012
mircea_popescu: ;;google trilema doua imagini cuvinte milioane lei
gribble: August 2012 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2012/08>; MPEx pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/mpex/>; Ciuciu Bond pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2012/ciuciu-bond/>
mircea_popescu: meh
mircea_popescu: it's there somewhere.
mircea_popescu: ;;topic
gribble: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com
mircea_popescu: btw kakobrekla an "Or call #" at the end can't hurt.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 17 @ 0.03800253 = 0.646 BTC [-] {3}
Naphex: i like romanian TV reports on Bitcoin :))
Naphex: just saw a TVR report that had an "Expert" on phone
Naphex: who just went on a talking spree on how 'cool' bitcoin is, until he got cut off
Naphex: :))
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00093734 = 10.4982 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: romanian tv experts.
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 523.5, Best ask: 524.78, Bid-ask spread: 1.28000, Last trade: 524.78, 24 hour volume: 10936.77836281, 24 hour low: 491.31, 24 hour high: 524.9, 24 hour vwap: 503.526634492
Naphex: it is going ^
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.0057001 = 0.171 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: yup
mircea_popescu: inb4 whatever noob comes in to ask if it's due to whatever irrelevant press article wherein some experts nobody heard about derp.
Apocalyptic: ^
Naphex: intereset started growing a lot in the last 3 weeks
mircea_popescu: yes, it's going to move.
mircea_popescu: the 500 wall took even less than it should have.
Apocalyptic: there was a ~900 btc wall @510, that got pulled instantly
mircea_popescu: i guess if anyone asks ima just tell them it's going up because i finally wisened up and leaving timisoara.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46400 @ 0.00093529 = 43.3975 BTC [-] {3}
Naphex: mircea_popescu: when are you departing?
mircea_popescu: at some point since the 20th
BingoBoingo_: mircea_popescu: It's going up, because people know you are traveling by boat
jurov: BingoBoingo_: how so?
mircea_popescu: it's a submarine helicopter
mircea_popescu: VTOL/VSINK bitchez
BingoBoingo_: jurov: He declared earlier he is traveling by battleship
BingoBoingo_: Or maybe he just bought the battleship
mircea_popescu: or maybe i had it made by slave labour!
BingoBoingo_: For something that large when would MPOE-PR have had the time to interact with the forum?
chetty: oh I thought it was becasue he was being extradited
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.4999985 = 2 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo_: If the US couldn't even extradite Bobby Fischer in his lifetime, I dun see how they are extraditing mircea_popescu
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6894 @ 0.00093734 = 6.462 BTC [+]
chetty: dun matter about reality, matters what folks think
Apocalyptic: it's exactly the other way around
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4999999 = 1 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: im being extradited to mongolia
mircea_popescu: apparently i made some ill advised off the cuff comments about horse meat.
BingoBoingo_: In other news Joe Biden is apparently a pedophile http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/05/joe-biden-gets-invited-to-prom-by-17-year-old-girl/
assbot: Joe Biden Gets Invited to Prom by 17-Year-Old Girl - ABC News
mircea_popescu: thatsounds more like a 17 yo is a gerontophile
BingoBoingo_: mircea_popescu: No, he turned down the date because he prefers the elementary school dance
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00093385 = 28.2957 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: !up roro_
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.4999999 = 4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.5 = 10 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: !up davout
davout: ohai
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: hi
jurov: hello
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48011017 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-]
fluffypony: jurov: ola
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.095 = 0.57 BTC [+] {2}
fluffypony: kakobrekla: mircea_popescu wants you to adjust the topic, yo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.03805229 = 0.3805 BTC [-] {4}
kakobrekla: isnt that a bit excessive
kakobrekla: or vinklevossy
fluffypony: but the veesee needs to see eet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22894 @ 0.00093636 = 21.437 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10306 @ 0.00093734 = 9.6602 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo_: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 515.0, vol: 12286.83754310 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 500.111, vol: 8348.34805 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 516.34, vol: 12146.0210006 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 517.32, vol: 47.41546771 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 505.945272, vol: 4760.78680000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 520.06956, vol: 21.86084581 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 508.8588, vol: 130.32233269 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo_: ;;more
gribble: 510.980296165
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.095 = 0.285 BTC [+]
davout: has this ever been discussed here ? -> http://bitfreak.info/files/pp2p-ccmbc-rev1.pdf
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7870 @ 0.00093774 = 7.38 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6284 @ 0.00093774 = 5.8928 BTC [+]
jurov: davout i don't remember
jurov: it seems to me that there people write papers and others make altcoins
jurov: rarely someone does both
davout: jurov: true
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5098121 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.038 = 0.152 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 100 @ 0.038 = 3.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00093791 = 11.1611 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.02222231 = 0.2667 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.02200356 = 0.308 BTC [-] {5}
moiety: morning
jurov: hi moiety
fluffypony: morning, moiety
moiety: how goes today?
moiety: fluffypony: i'm sad, the sun has gone :[
fluffypony: :( :(
jurov looks out of the window .. moiety should move here
jurov: central/eastern eu is not for everyone, tho
jurov: later!
moiety: see you later jurov :]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00093862 = 3.7075 BTC [+]
moiety: <mircea_popescu> [...] i think you misunderstand how josh works. he doesn't actually DO the things he claims to have done. he merely claims them. << lol true, we mustn't believe this until we see 6 confirmation articles he has moved in!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 936 @ 0.00012066 = 0.1129 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00093862 = 7.509 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 30 @ 0.038 = 1.14 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.00093638 = 29.0278 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00093636 = 1.8727 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00093558 = 21.4248 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: !up FManTropyx
kakobrekla: hi there ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 17 @ 0.03800005 = 0.646 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.038 = 0.57 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8973 @ 0.00093536 = 8.393 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00093865 = 12.8595 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26750 @ 0.00093965 = 25.1356 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45550 @ 0.00094256 = 42.9336 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28859 @ 0.00094398 = 27.2423 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.038 = 0.57 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.095 = 0.475 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00094503 = 24.4763 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.038 = 0.57 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00457301 = 0.4573 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: meanwhile in argentina; http://bitcoin-assets.com/static/var/ferreteria.gif
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.033 = 0.33 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.03317325 = 0.5639 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00457301 = 0.4573 BTC [-]
fluffypony: kakobrekla: I guess you could say ... (⌐■_■) ... he got screwed
fluffypony: YEEEEAAAHHH!
kakobrekla: did you notice the color of the shop, its called 'bitstamp green'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00457301 = 0.3887 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 363 @ 0.095 = 34.485 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.095 = 1.71 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.095 = 2.565 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00457301 = 0.2332 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 115 @ 0.095 = 10.925 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 216 @ 0.095 = 20.52 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0335 = 0.1675 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 199 @ 0.0394 = 7.8406 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu since you asked, Jodie Brady is the name of the Director of Finance for TBF
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3691 @ 0.00094362 = 3.4829 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28150 @ 0.0009347 = 26.3118 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: ;;bcstats
gribble: Current Blocks: 302083 | Current Difficulty: 8.8534163091278E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 302399 | Next Difficulty In: 316 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 18 hours, 22 minutes, and 7 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10492950119.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.51866
ThickAsThieves: impressive
fluffypony: but you are not a jedi yet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70971 @ 0.00093261 = 66.1883 BTC [-] {6}
BingoBoingo_: http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/01/bacon-tubes/
assbot: Bacon Laced Gastric Lavage Tubes a Big Hit for Patients | Medical Satire - GomerBlog
BingoBoingo_: http://www.gomerblog.com/2013/08/american-college-of-cardiology-is-publically-fights-with-the-american-society-of-nephrology/
assbot: American College of Cardiology Seen Publically Fighting with the American Society of Nephrology | Medical Satire - GomerBlog
ThickAsThieves: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/05/22/energy_economics_coal/
assbot: You know all those resources we're about to run out of? No, we aren't The Register
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 239 @ 0.095 = 22.705 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00092877 = 28.0489 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: yeah, burn all dem coalz..like china does
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00092862 = 29.4373 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38093 @ 0.00092719 = 35.3194 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: %t
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 204 Ask: 329 Last Price: 330 24h-Vol: 83k High: 330 Low: 272 VWAP: 278
BingoBoingo_: Why didn't Hitler just light Britain on fire then, a la Centralia Pennsylvania?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15229 @ 0.00092933 = 14.1528 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo_: Precision www.gomerblog.com/2013/08/enema/
BingoBoingo_: !up Guest90223
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34453 @ 0.00093476 = 32.2053 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo_: centralia wasn't lit until 1960s. so, lack of imagination.
BingoBoingo_: asciilifeform: Ah. Yeah that detail.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29097 @ 0.0009354 = 27.2173 BTC [+] {2}
fluffypony: coup in thailand is official
fluffypony: "Thailand’s military has announced it is taking control of the government and has suspended the constitution. In a TV statement, army chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha vowed to restore order and enact political reforms. The cabinet has been told to report to the military, TV broadcasting is suspended and political gatherings are banned. A nationwide curfew will operate from 22:00 to 05:00 local time."
fluffypony: inb4 ThailandCoin - mine and trade to save the oppressed people of Thailand!
pankkake: French dictionnary adds "selfie", "hashtag" and "troll" ☟︎
fluffypony: pankkake: they added you to the dictionary??!
pankkake: ;;ud pankkake
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pankkake | People who have a food fetish tend to download pankkake porn. by James Bass January 23, 2004. 19 7. Mugs & shirts Buy “Pankkake” mugs & shirts.
BingoBoingo_: fluffypony: That curfew is some bullshit, those are some of my best hours of the day.
BingoBoingo_: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 516.27, vol: 15108.86081906 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 507.005, vol: 9946.21732 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 519.56, vol: 14687.86654178 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 515.0, vol: 46.4493895 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 510.556408, vol: 5512.54720000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 519.9166, vol: 31.00944146 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 517.668585, vol: 157.9904475 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo_: ;;more
gribble: 514.620220619
pankkake: bitcoin-central actually having volume these days
BingoBoingo_: pankkake: Probably Bitstamp sucking has something to do with that.
pankkake: ;;ticker --currency eur --market all
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1652 @ 0.095 = 156.94 BTC [+]
gribble: Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 378.122724, vol: 15112.07087132 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 371.0, vol: 249.56532 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 377.083, vol: 46.4493895 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 373.557408, vol: 5536.89350000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 377.10001, vol: 1529.16837549 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 379.05, vol: 157.9904475 | Volume-weighted last average: 376.862527142
pankkake: kraken still has way more
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.0394 = 0.1182 BTC [+] {2}
fluffypony: that FCC throttling joke from Neocities is becoming a thing: http://bgr.com/2014/05/15/fcc-net-neutrality-protest/
assbot: FCC net neutrality protest: Throttle your website’s traffic | BGR
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.095 = 1.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.095 = 0.475 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03435 = 0.1031 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.0229999 = 0.46 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 33 @ 0.02308036 = 0.7617 BTC [+] {4}
fluffypony: http://www.wired.com/2014/05/gitchain/
assbot: Hacker Plans Holy Marriage of GitHub and Bitcoin | Enterprise | WIRED
fluffypony: well
rithm: he's not going to like being married
fluffypony: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00093476 = 9.815 BTC [-]
pankkake: well, that's what you get when you allow gay mariage. it's a slipperly slope
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 49 @ 0.095 = 4.655 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: good "morning"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 126 @ 0.095 = 11.97 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 150 @ 0.095 = 14.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 64 @ 0.095 = 6.08 BTC [+]
chetty: <rithm> he's not going to like being married << he?
rithm: /s/he/she/it/they
chetty: :D
rithm: i think i was anthropomorphizing
chetty: nothing wrong with that, but I always thought bitcoin was a she
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 41 @ 0.03435 = 1.4084 BTC [-]
rithm: lady bitcoin, eh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.03435 = 0.687 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03435 = 0.3092 BTC [-]
TomServo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 518.61, Best ask: 518.63, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 518.63, 24 hour volume: 15360.33942680, 24 hour low: 492.5, 24 hour high: 528.87, 24 hour vwap: 509.334385827
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13029 @ 0.00093541 = 12.1875 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo_: rithm: It makes sense, all of the other good abstractions possess cunt when anthropomorphized consider Liberty, Justice
fluffypony: if this is legit this is awesome: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/903107259/scio-your-sixth-sense-a-pocket-molecular-sensor-fo
assbot: SCiO: Your Sixth Sense. A Pocket Molecular Sensor For All ! by Consumer Physics, Inc. — Kickstarter
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 88 @ 0.095 = 8.36 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 96 @ 0.095 = 9.12 BTC [+]
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 517.0, Best ask: 518.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 517.0, 24 hour volume: 15579.82542545, 24 hour low: 492.58, 24 hour high: 528.87, 24 hour vwap: 509.364613106
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.42885352 BTC to 8`552 shares, 28401 satoshi per share
cgcardona: hi everyone! o/
cgcardona: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 516.45, Best ask: 518.85, Bid-ask spread: 2.40000, Last trade: 518.85, 24 hour volume: 15586.40251166, 24 hour low: 492.58, 24 hour high: 528.87, 24 hour vwap: 509.966038947
cgcardona: ~~~~]////////> to the moon
benkay: grr
cgcardona: i swear thats not a penis^ :_|
cgcardona: haha
Apocalyptic: hello princess
princessnell: hiya
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 26 @ 0.03947689 = 1.0264 BTC [+] {3}
benkay: <kakobrekla> meanwhile in argentina; http://bitcoin-assets.com/static/var/ferreteria.gif // jup.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 99 @ 0.00472823 = 0.4681 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.004762 = 0.4048 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo_: %book
atcbot: 39k@330 25k@328 14k@327 | 30k@204 6k@200 50k@158
benkay: <pankkake> kraken still has way more // this surprised me.
benkay: %t
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 204 Ask: 327 Last Price: 330 24h-Vol: 83k High: 330 Low: 272 VWAP: 278
Apocalyptic: spread is kinda huge
benkay: what's up with the spread, BingoBoingo_ ?
BingoBoingo_: benkay: I'll decline to comment
Apocalyptic: wasn't the central ATC bank supposed to not let it bubble ?:)
moiety: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619606.msg6860471#msg6860471 lol
assbot: Dealing with idiots.
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: There are many orders and perogatives. Not letting it bubble is one, but there are other interests and concerns bubble prevention must be balanced with.
Apocalyptic: I'm sure there is
fluffypony: moiety: "A good way to handle idiots on call centers is btw to just hang up and call again, repeat until you have someone on the line that actually acts like a human." - because what I love most of all is sitting on hold for another 23 minutes.
rithm: http://9m.no/❋흍
assbot: Dealing with idiots.
rithm: unicode url shortener
rithm: i'm inlove already
benkay: my terminal is not set up to recognize links with unicode
Apocalyptic: by the way are any asseteers interested in another coin to be implemented on x-bt ?
benkay: i do not like the work this implies.
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: yes
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: Monero, but as its not forked from Bitcoin its a bit of a bitch to integrate
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 46 @ 0.095 = 4.37 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: what's interesting about it fluffypony ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.02237 = 0.1119 BTC [-] {2}
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: based on the CryptoNote protocol, uses stealth addresses and ring signatures for anonymity + plausible deniability
fluffypony: http://cryptonote.org/whitepaper.pdf
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0223 = 0.1115 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: fluffypony tell me, your name is designed to sound soft
thestringpuller: lol
fluffypony: thestringpuller: yes, lulls you into a false sense of security
thestringpuller: but everyone needs a hug sometime
thestringpuller: That's why fluffy animals are awesome.
fluffypony: exactly
thestringpuller: Stuffed animals 4 lyfe yo
fluffypony: did you go to Build a Bear?
thestringpuller: I built a bear for my girlfriend there
fluffypony: awesome
thestringpuller: a few weeks ago when she was mad at me
thestringpuller: for something dumb
fluffypony: we have a Darth Vader bear from it
thestringpuller: you mine?
thestringpuller: i forgot to ask that (random topic change)
fluffypony: thestringpuller: only as a side-effect
fluffypony: all the rigs are off atm, got a few EC2 instances mining Monero but will switch them off in a few days
thestringpuller: do you sell?
thestringpuller: lol
thestringpuller: coins that is
fluffypony: thestringpuller: yes
fluffypony: I'll hold for a bit
fluffypony: and sell on a pump
fluffypony: but I tend to hold very little in any altcoin
fluffypony: they have a tendency to go away randomly
danielpbarron: i'm holding 10 LTC and something like 100 NMC
danielpbarron: i got the LTC way way back
Apocalyptic: ty fluffypony, will have a look at it
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: cool - I'm busy putting together an integration guide for exchanges, after spending a few hours fighting with the RPC API (still plenty raw) so will send that on to you when done
thestringpuller: oh I was thinking btc lol
thestringpuller: The mining pools seem to directly sell to market, but I don't trust exchanges.
fluffypony: thestringpuller: nah couldn't be bothered to buy an ASIC that's going to turn into a paperweight in 8 months
danielpbarron: i wish the miners would get in the WoT and sell directly to individuals like me with cash to send in the mail
benkay: what is the litecoin exchange of greatest and least fraudulent volume?
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: do you insure that cash in the mail?
danielpbarron: no
danielpbarron: not necessary
thestringpuller: what if you needed a large sum?
danielpbarron: that is like using tor
danielpbarron: what is large sum?
thestringpuller: like a pallet of bills
danielpbarron: lol
danielpbarron: i probably still wouldn't insure
danielpbarron: just dress it up to look like it isn't cash
thestringpuller: like god forbid Tony Soprano wants to buy BTC's for his stacks of cash.
Apocalyptic: <danielpbarron> i wish the miners would get in the WoT and sell directly to individuals like me with cash to send in the mail // some do
danielpbarron: i can't do that kind of volume anyway
Apocalyptic: but they have their regular
thestringpuller: yea. there really should be a better miner consortium tho
thestringpuller: it seems every miner that comes into btc-assets turns into a scammer
Apocalyptic: yeah, they are not specialy advertising they are miners
danielpbarron: mining is very scammy
Apocalyptic: (those I know who have a WoT that is)
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: mining is very scammy << well gigavps set the bar pretty low
danielpbarron: obviously it's not all a scam, but everything i see talked about seems to be a scam
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves was a great mining representative but he exited the mining space.
danielpbarron: i've had multiple face-to-face interactions in which the other guy expressed interest in buying mining equipment for doge or the like
fluffypony: benkay: LTC/USD or LTC/BTC ?
danielpbarron: and i'm like "NO! DANGER!"
danielpbarron: if anyone is selling their mining gear, you've got to assume they did the math and realized there is more money in selling the gear than running it
danielpbarron: unless you are sure you can get really cheap electricity
fluffypony: danielpbarron: many miners are fickle and stupid
fluffypony: they spend a fortune on their credit card when BTC is spiking
fluffypony: when it crashes they can't afford repayments or even the electricity every month
thestringpuller: is there a legit ltc/btc exchange?
fluffypony: so they sell stuff for cheap
danielpbarron: thestringpuller, does btc-e count?
fluffypony: thestringpuller, benkay: http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/#jump-ltc-btc
assbot: Cryptocoin charts
thestringpuller: looks like it may be easier to just buy a shit ton of LTC cash and then liquidate it into btc
fluffypony: that's a list by volume
fluffypony: BTC is the highest by volume by a wide margin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 25 @ 0.02264717 = 0.5662 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: fluffypony: do you have a long term supply of LTC or are you exiting?
fluffypony: thestringpuller: I haven't held LTC for ages
fluffypony: the last time I had LTC was when burnside refunded me my listing fee for ltcglobal
fluffypony: and I liquidated that in December when LTC spiked
thestringpuller: so you have BTC supply?
fluffypony: yes
thestringpuller: you said you mined? or am i confused
fluffypony: ok focus
fluffypony: the only coin I hold long term is BTC
fluffypony: everything else I will dabble in, but I'm in and out within a month or two at the most
thestringpuller: so where does the supply come from? mining?
thestringpuller: or is that unrelated
fluffypony: unrelated, I've held BTC for ages
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: So you are saying your endorsement of any alt should be taken with the caveat you plan on abandoning it yourself in short order.
thestringpuller: ah
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: Monero is different - I tend to abandon the rest because they're all Bitcoin forks
dexX7: i heard ltc is going to be listed on mtgox next month
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: which goes back to what Peter Todd said about BTC being able to adopt anything Ethereum, NXT, or anyone does
thestringpuller: ;;genrate 5500
gribble: The expected generation output, at 5500.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8853416309.13, is 0.000312420171354 BTC per day and 1.30175071398e-05 BTC per hour.
fluffypony: longevity is not guaranteed, and the opposite is most likely true
thestringpuller: ;;genrate 550000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 550000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8853416309.13, is 0.0312420171354 BTC per day and 0.00130175071398 BTC per hour.
benkay: does btc-e count?
fluffypony: had a discussion with gmaxwell a few days ago about ring signatures, and he agrees that it could be done in a kludgy way in BTC, but it's an unlikely thing to happen, so Monero will possibly carve out a nice niche among the darknet markets crowd
benkay: asciilifeform: what's that post you're always throwing down about new languages with new features?
BingoBoingo: ;;genrate MAXINT
gribble: Error: 'MAXINT' is not a valid positiveFloat.
thestringpuller: ;;ident
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
Apocalyptic: thestringpuller> is there a legit ltc/btc exchange? // x-bt.com
benkay: book's pretty thin, Apocalyptic
thestringpuller: It's funny how it's far more productive to do business here than in #bitcoin-otc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12593 @ 0.0009347 = 11.7707 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: benkay: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3206985430398054@naggum.net.html
assbot: Re: Representing code as XML: the Flare Programming Language - Naggum cll archive
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.0009347 = 9.7676 BTC [-]
Apocalyptic: benkay, it is
ThickAsThieves: <+thestringpuller> ThickAsThieves was a great mining representative but he exited the mining space. /// I dont think I ever represented mining in any broad way. Never sold or represented any hardware or tech.
Apocalyptic: i'm somehow oblivious to the fact people prefer btc-e & scammy exchanges
Apocalyptic: I dont think I ever represented mining in any broad way. // you were on the board of ASICMINER weren't you ?
ThickAsThieves: well it's hard for an alt exchange, you either want to curate or support as many as possible
ThickAsThieves: with curating not looking all that enticing in the short-term
benkay: thanks, asciilifeform
benkay: fluffypony re monero: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3206985430398054@naggum.net.html
assbot: Re: Representing code as XML: the Flare Programming Language - Naggum cll archive
ThickAsThieves: yes, i was on AM board, but that's falling a bit out of the context I was mentioned in
ThickAsThieves: also, it's a pretty powerless board
ThickAsThieves: unless you wanna run a AM franchise at least
jurov: <thestringpuller> is there a legit ltc/btc exchange? << x-bt.com but there's no volume :(
ThickAsThieves: and last I heard that was a losing proposition too
benkay: A "new" languagewait hang on asciilifeform i'm thinking about
benkay: that differs from the rest of the crop by one or a couple features is
benkay: proof positive that both what it came from and what it has become are
benkay: mutations about to die.
benkay: ugh i am so sorry
fluffypony: benkay: that's moot, I'm already heavily invested in BTC (the equivalent of "learn Common Lisp" by analogy), finding Monero interesting and possibly worthwhile does not change my position on BTC but is, rather, a direct result of the knowledge already accumulated
ThickAsThieves: we need altcoins so we know where to go when bitcoin dies
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: The last time I was in -otc I don't think I had to linger more than half an hour to unload all the paypal I was burdened with
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: in this specific case I don't know if you can call it an altcoin; it shares no common code with Bitcoin and has a completely different protocol / way of storing the blockchain / etc.
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: depends on how 'dies'
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: was that this year?
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: if ECDSA pops, afaik all known coins go with it
thestringpuller: I may have just gone when the trolls were in there.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Yeah, maybe a couple weeks ago at the latest.
thestringpuller: interesting
fluffypony: asciilifeform: I was just reading about that today (in the context of "Bitcoin will die because quantum computer!!!111") - general idea is that a hard fork to something different if quantum computing was imminent would solve that
pankkake: you guys know what's the '1' in Bitcoin addresses right?
BingoBoingo: Apparently having a blog helps
pankkake: address VERSION. because satoshi is a genius, he thought about future problems already
BingoBoingo: pankkake: It identifies the type of address
pankkake: in the year 2050 we'll just use addresses starting with 2 with another, stronger, crypto
asciilifeform: re: 'monero': 'Egalitarian proof of work' << do we need to read past this line ? ☟︎
pankkake: so far the crypto world managed to move to better algorithms before attacks were economically interesting. I don't see it changing
Apocalyptic: <asciilifeform> re: 'monero': 'Egalitarian proof of work' << do we need to read past this line ? // my thoughts exactly
pankkake: yeah, it is both a stupid intention, and an impossible goal
fluffypony: asciilifeform: the PoW is just stupidly expensive to try reduce the gap between CPU performant miners and GPU / ASIC miners
fluffypony: anyway, whitepaper goes into more detail with less sales-pitch: https://cryptonote.org/whitepaper.pdf
fluffypony: I don't consider the PoW particularly noteworthy
asciilifeform: fluffypony: aka 'we love botnets'
pankkake: PoWs are always mined by the guys with the most hardware, no matter how you twist it
fluffypony: pankkake: exactly
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2014&bots=true#444142
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
pankkake: commodity hardware is just worse because it can be rented, whether supercalculator, cloud or botnet
pankkake: and renting instead of buying makes attacks cheaper
asciilifeform: pankkake: this is nonsense. given as it assumes that the price of such rentals is entirely unaffected by this possibility.
asciilifeform: classic case of 'partial differentiation'
fluffypony: everyone complains about every level - CPU mining? terrible because botnets! GPU mining? terrible because only 25-35 white males have GPUs! ASIC mining? terrible because centralisation!
asciilifeform: 'if shit has antigravitic properties, kitchen chairs would look like toilets, and toilets would be chimneys.'
pankkake: fluffypony: I think you mean 12-17 males :D
ThickAsThieves: <+asciilifeform> ThickAsThieves: if ECDSA pops, afaik all known coins go with it /// lotsa ways to kill a coin
pankkake: I fail to see the centralization of ASICs. GPUs = AMD. that's it. CPU = 99% Intel.
asciilifeform: pankkake: what people complain about is that 'the race is to the swift'
jurov: ASIC = KnC
ThickAsThieves: doesnt nvidia have a suitable card yet?
ThickAsThieves: i thought i heard they made one
asciilifeform: but what is the alternative? the race goes to the snails?
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: their mining performance on the Haswell chips is amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
pankkake: no, their cards aren't very good for proof of works
pankkake: they're very good for many scientific calculations, however
fluffypony: pankkake: on scrypt GTX 750 ti does half the hash rate of an AMD R280 at half the cost, but it uses 40W of power instead of ~300W
ThickAsThieves: I think people like to forget that bitcoin has plenty risks to its life
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: afaik no way to kill btc without taking down all known (at least sha-based) alts with it.
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: on account of them being codewise clones
ThickAsThieves: they may all have similar weaknesses, but not all die the same detah
ThickAsThieves: death*
ThickAsThieves: they will all die eventually
ThickAsThieves: everything does of course
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: please try to think of a scenario where a weakness (in the usual sense) turns up, but does not kill classic btc and its alts simultaneously.
ThickAsThieves: well i'll be that guy and bring up satoshi's coins
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ThickAsThieves: which could cause various problems
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: let's say they all get sold tonight. at this point, this may not be a 'death'
ThickAsThieves: having a large proportion of the money isnt a problem per se
ThickAsThieves: it could be near-death
asciilifeform: (a year and a half ago, when i wrote about it, it may have been)
fluffypony: like him suddenly being wealthier than all nations on the earth combined and demanding to be our overlord?
ThickAsThieves: as good as dead
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16117 @ 0.00093952 = 15.1422 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: suppose it triggered other problems
ThickAsThieves: or ushered in another coin
ThickAsThieves: or suppose it leads to blacklisting
ThickAsThieves: etc
ThickAsThieves: this can go so many way
ThickAsThieves: s
ThickAsThieves: the logic and design of bitcoin may be elegant, but it must still live through the filter of everything else
asciilifeform: i'm still waiting for a hypothetical altchain that is neither a joke, nor retarded
ThickAsThieves: theyll probly come over time
asciilifeform: no sign of one so far
ThickAsThieves: even then bitcoin may beat "better" coins
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00094256 = 15.458 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: i venture to guess that it is because the temptation to 'go retarded' (e.g. premine, insert 'egalitarian' crapola like demurrage, reward phriends, etc.) is overwhelming.
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin does at least have a system for adapting
ThickAsThieves: which also happens to be one of its weaknesses
pankkake: I don't think it will be an altchain. Just hard-fork the bitcoin blockchain into something actually better.
asciilifeform: and the number of people capable of writing a true from-scratch (vs. cribbed) alt is probably single-digit.
pankkake: I don't think creating a new coin is an honest attitude
ThickAsThieves: asciilifeform, i've been trying to write up some thoughts on abstract system design concepts, stuff in the area of mircea's perfect economy, systematics? dynamism, resilience, co-dependency, etc. Do you have any suggested reading?
ThickAsThieves: well anyone else is free to answer too ;)
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Spinoza's Politics?
pankkake understood none of these words
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: 'And Suddenly the Inventor Appeared.' by Genrich Altshuller. ☟︎
ThickAsThieves: basically theorizing about how all these things interact and how to best design them, thinking of decenttalization and centralization as order and chaos, as tools, not problems
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: the english translation is a bit clunky but still eminently worth it.
ThickAsThieves: thanks i'll check out both
pankkake: Genrich Altshuller ~= Coingen Altshiller
ThickAsThieves: yes problem-solving is great category for what i'm aimibng for
ThickAsThieves: i want to make sure i'm not inventing ideas someone else has already
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: before the Politics, You'd probably need to read Spinoza's Ethics to get to some of the WTF
ThickAsThieves: which i have tendency to do
ThickAsThieves: ok
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thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: RE: Not representing mining in any broad way. << You did operate assets that correlated to hashpower, so I just kinda figured you were a "mining something" you know?
thestringpuller: XBOND's cashflow came from mining...
ThickAsThieves: not true at all
princessnell: ThickAsThieves Antifragile, maybe?
ThickAsThieves: someone else had mentioned Antifragile to me for some other reason
ThickAsThieves: I guess i'll order that too
princessnell: ThickAsThieves I'd think human psychology would factor into those questions as well. Thinking Fast and Slow would be a good start.
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: If you go ahead with the Spinoza I recommend posterboard for note taking
princessnell: ThickAsThieves and probably The Righteous Mind since this ultimately involves moral sympathies
ThickAsThieves: i'm not sure i agree on those points,
ThickAsThieves: i'm trying to approach it to extract more absolute observations
ThickAsThieves: it's hard for me to articulate succinctly
thestringpuller: Where did XBOND's cashflow really come from then? You were trading drugs or something?
thestringpuller: i kid
ThickAsThieves: but more like the science of systems
princessnell: Well, you know what you're looking for. But if humans are involved in the system, then those areas become indispensible.
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ThickAsThieves: it's funny youre arguing something i normally argue
ThickAsThieves: that you cant remove human traits from human things
princessnell: I'm writing about that right now so I'm a bit anchored :)
jurov: extract more absolute observations << a fool's errand
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: if you want heuristics you can actually use immediately, read 'suddenly the inventor.'
asciilifeform: (vs. 'feel good' fluff)
ThickAsThieves: i line a repeated a few times at the bitcoin conference: "You can't remove trust from transactions, you can only design it to be where you prefer it"
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: http://www.datafilehost.com/d/bed7d75b
assbot: Download And Suddenly the Inventor Appeared.pdf
ThickAsThieves: jurov, foolish only in the way that Darwin was
asciilifeform: ^ warez
ThickAsThieves: thx
ThickAsThieves: already ordered the book :)
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: unfortunate. the fellow's long-dead, and sales of the translations feed the idiot hucksters who claim to be altschuller's students (they peddle derivative crapola to american 'mba' types)
ThickAsThieves: ah
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: they are the most likely reason why his work remains obscure in the west.
asciilifeform: people buy something with 'triz' in the title, and get... a turd
asciilifeform: then conclude 'soviet disinfo'
ThickAsThieves: yeah i was bombarded with TRIZ on amazon
asciilifeform: buy nothing that wasn't penned by mr. a personally
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ThickAsThieves: basically, since that day i was trying to prove that mp
ThickAsThieves: 's theory for perfect economy,
ThickAsThieves: required perfect economies within it
ThickAsThieves: i felt that his theory wasnt complete
ThickAsThieves: and maybe just scratching the surface of something more applicable
ThickAsThieves: this began a common thread through other observations about bitcoin and systems
ThickAsThieves: it probably all boils down to something super simple, like a basic physics concept
ThickAsThieves: but whatever
ThickAsThieves: it's enjoyable work
benkay: thermodynamics is at the root of everything, especially economics.
ThickAsThieves: right, so it's basically trying to understand how physics echoes into economies
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penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-public-burning-of-bob-beck/
asciilifeform: penguirker is bog-slow
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princessnell: through biology (evolution) and ultimately psychology
princessnell: this short alchian classic gets at it: http://www.caps.am/materials/diaspora%20writings/Alchien%20on%20uncertainity%20and%20development.pdf
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 7 @ 0.04 = 0.28 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: thx princessnell
danielpbarron: what would be a decent bounty to offer for someone to figure out how to compile ssss-0.5 on openbsd 5.5?
fluffypony: thestringpuller: btw, watched that clip with the wife, was a little teary at the end :)
princessnell: ThickAsThieves curious, what do you think the theory lacks?
thestringpuller: fluffypony: yea I think that story is a good textbook example of "true love" or what have you
ThickAsThieves: princessnell, you mean mp's perfect economy theory?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 65 @ 0.095 = 6.175 BTC [+]
princessnell: yes
princessnell: what is the itch here
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: how about 0.5 btc
ThickAsThieves: well, I see weaknesses in that it contains itself within each of its requires elements, and that there is aguably a lack of distinction between the punishment gazette and the forum
ThickAsThieves: required*
danielpbarron: yikes, a bit steep for me; i was gonna offer 0.1
ThickAsThieves: I also take issue with "perfect"
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: ok, 0.1
danielpbarron: you would do this?
danielpbarron: do we need a contract or do you trust me?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.0009337 = 37.1613 BTC [-] {5}
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: let's try http://pastebin.com/CfXkxAfW
assbot: wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/ssss/ssss_0.5.orig.tar.gz tar - Pastebin.com
ThickAsThieves: i dont think an economy can be perfect, because all ecomonies must die eventually
ThickAsThieves: economies
princessnell: that's the physics point
ThickAsThieves: right
princessnell: i think it's bizarre to call it non-teleological personally
princessnell: this is the biology point
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, will try
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: ought to take you 1 min. or so
asciilifeform: say if it worked.
ThickAsThieves: can you illustrate it in contrast to the physics point?
ThickAsThieves: what i'm working on, includes a suggestion that there are multiple types of economies, each with roles/strengths
ThickAsThieves: a game of life kind of thing with economies as organisms or whatever
ThickAsThieves: so maybe there are ideal or dynamic or codependent or viral economies
ThickAsThieves: just thinking out loud
princessnell: it's a bit hard for me to separate
ThickAsThieves: and then this transfers into designs of systems, complex problem-solving, computer modeling
princessnell: economics is the study of decisions to allocate scare resources given unlimited wants
princessnell: so the literal physics is that you can't consume more matter than exists
princessnell: no utility monsters
princessnell: (thermoeconomists extend this point more literally, but i think it's better as a mental model)
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princessnell: so we've been going about thinking "look at us, economizing on nature!"
asciilifeform: princessnell: http://existentialcomics.com/comic/8
assbot: In which Peter Singer investigates a basement flood - Existential Comics
princessnell: but this whole time, nature has been economizing on us
princessnell: that's evolution
princessnell: evolution itself is non-teleological
princessnell: but human action cannot be anything but teleological
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, i get errors; similar to when i tried doing it with the tar.gz from the official ssss page
danielpbarron: not sure how to dump the errors into a file
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: pastebin ?
princessnell: economies are aggregations of human actions
princessnell: asciilifeform heh
danielpbarron: Your IP has been blocked from posting new items, if you think this is a mistake, please email us at admin@pastebin.com.
danielpbarron: lol what's a good alternative
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: pm me
princessnell: the properties of a unique economy are inextricable from the social behaviors of the humans who influence and are influenced by it
TomServo: danielpbarron: How do you end up banned from pastebin?
danielpbarron: idk, maybe because i used it to host my homepage
danielpbarron: i emailed them yesterday
TomServo: Also, dpaste.com maybe helpful in the future
TomServo: Ah
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00093099 = 5.6325 BTC [-]
princessnell: basically: the endogeneity becomes a lot more managable when viewed from an evolutionary lense
ThickAsThieves: maybe there is some distinction between properties of an economy, properties of human influence, and each acting as separate friction to the economy's lifespan
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/05/22/uncle-sam-scam-victim/
ThickAsThieves: and thus some definitions of properties of economies, with some epectation of each property's effect on a design
jurov: wtf is "friction to lifespan"?
princessnell: <ThickAsThieves> what i'm working on, includes a suggestion that there are multiple types of economies, each with roles/strengths << going from here, the types and properties are determined by the gene/culture interaction of the group that acts upon it
ThickAsThieves: how long it lasts
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ThickAsThieves: yes princessnell
princessnell: maybe the distinction is economic laws and economic institutions
princessnell: economic laws = physics
princessnell: economic institutions = biology/psychology
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princessnell: i.e. demand curves slope downwards in zimbabwe and hong kong but the institutions/outcomes vary for evolutionary (genetic and cultural) reasons
ThickAsThieves: studying economic system designs to better apply them
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ThickAsThieves: http://members.jacksonville.com/news/crime/2014-05-20/story/jacksonville-police-will-knock-18000-doors-northwest-jacksonville
assbot: Jacksonville police will knock on 18,000 doors in Northwest Jacksonville in an attempt to stop gun-related crime | members.jacksonville.com
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benkay: <danielpbarron> idk, maybe because i used it to host my homepage // lol go on i desire more lols danielpbarron
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wywialm: good evening
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00093645 = 17.418 BTC [+]
benkay: hello wywialm what've you been up to?
benkay: !up virtuals
wywialm: hey benkay, reading the latest logs now
wywialm: ThickAsThieves: if you plan to consider something connected with money when designing (economic) systems, you may want to have a look at "Theory of monetary institutions" by Lawrence White
ThickAsThieves: thx
benkay: wywialm: haven't seen you in a while - how many months of logs are you reading?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6071 @ 0.00093645 = 5.6852 BTC [+]
jurov: davout why b-c vanished from bitcoinity?
jurov: ;;later tell davout why b-c vanished from bitcoinity?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00093645 = 5.4314 BTC [+]
wywialm: benkay, beginning from latest. I don't have that much to read, I've been here sometimes together with numerisTrade account
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00093338 = 13.534 BTC [-]
princessnell: wywialm hey kewl, dr. white is my macro prof
wywialm: wow, lucky you
wywialm: I was wondering who could link to Armen Alchian's papers
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princessnell: truly. masonxcore is p gr8.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 117 @ 0.095 = 11.115 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 345 @ 0.095 = 32.775 BTC [+]
wywialm: princessnell, u doc, graduate or?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 300 @ 0.0008098 = 0.2429 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2090 @ 0.00093645 = 1.9572 BTC [+]
princessnell: wywilam just finished first year of phd
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9010 @ 0.00093878 = 8.4584 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 141 @ 0.0008098 = 0.1142 BTC [-]
wywialm: great!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
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benkay: !up darlidada
benkay: !up SuchWow
jurov: !up Dimsler
fluffypony: !up up
fluffypony: :(
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33722 @ 0.00093754 = 31.6157 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.095 = 0.285 BTC [+]
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 520.99, Best ask: 521.29, Bid-ask spread: 0.30000, Last trade: 520.99, 24 hour volume: 16177.76003459, 24 hour low: 492.65, 24 hour high: 528.87, 24 hour vwap: 511.558371793
benkay: cripes
thestringpuller: hmm
thestringpuller: interesting
ThickAsThieves: probly go 550+
ThickAsThieves: before it relaxes
ThickAsThieves: https://xrptalk.org/topic/2629-selling-my-xrp/
assbot: Selling my XRP - General Discussion - XRP Talk
ThickAsThieves: Founder of Ripple is announcing he is dumping his XRP. Ripple crashes 35% and still falling.
ThickAsThieves: I remember getting 7 or 8 btc for my free XRPs
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: i remember that lol
thestringpuller: long time ago
thestringpuller: my how time flies
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 763 @ 0.00268476 = 2.0485 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.04 = 0.4 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Yeah, If only I'd held onto my XRP long enough to dump them for more.
Dimsler: blng bling
BingoBoingo: In other news after a month of ineffective bullshit Trimethoprim/sulfamethoxazole as me pretty much healed up.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20989 @ 0.00093844 = 19.6969 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: Lol Venture Brothers
jurov: BingoBoingo when they could be dumped for more?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12029 @ 0.00094009 = 11.3083 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: jurov: Well, I dumped them as the giveaway was going on. 45k XRP sold for 0.6 BTC
BingoBoingo: I didn't anticipate the giveaway ending so quickly
jurov: i dumped for 5BTC and still retained some, that's why i'm asking
BingoBoingo: jurov: Yeah, there was someone on Bitcointalk buying batches and paying without issue so I unloaded them that way instead of waiting for a market.
jurov: ah i went through bitstamp
jurov: i guess that dude made hefty profit
benkay: https://cmd.fm/
BingoBoingo: Yeah, some bear dude. I don't think it was the scam enabling moderator one. All I know is later they fucked themself by buying a bunch of block erupters.
thestringpuller: what the fuck is this benkay ?
BingoBoingo: http://deadspin.com/did-new-clippers-ceo-dick-parsons-really-play-college-b-1579773293/+sarah-hedgecock
assbot: Did New Clippers CEO Dick Parsons Really Play College Basketball?
benkay: thestringpuller: do i look like your googleslave?
thestringpuller: do you really want me to answer that?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00011907 = 0.2381 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 519 @ 0.095 = 49.305 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.095 = 2.85 BTC [+]
fluffypony: benkay: that's awesome
fluffypony: takes a bit of getting used to
fluffypony: but I'm never going to use SoundCloud again without this
fluffypony: ah ascii star wars
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1500 @ 0.00011892 = 0.1784 BTC [-] {6}
[]bot: Bet placed: 10 BTC for No on "Bitcoin-Central out of business in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/826/ Odds: 2(Y):98(N) by coin, 3(Y):97(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.3276812 BTC. Current weight: 90,857.
davout: http://bitbet.us/bet/826/bitcoin-central-out-of-business-in-2014/
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin-Central out of business in 2014 :: 0.24 B (2%) on Yes, 10.09 B (98%) on No | closing in 7 months 1 week| weight: 90`857 (100`000 to 1)
davout: make your bets
Apocalyptic: isn't this a badbet ?
Apocalyptic: as it's in your sole authority to decide of the outcome
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.095 = 0.285 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: His money's on no. Other people could make it resolve as yes however.
Apocalyptic: BingoBoingo, doesn't matter where his money is
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: What I assume matters is he isn't the only one who could end it.
davout: how would hide some sort of bankruptcy/shutdown?
Apocalyptic: the point is the bet outcome is controlled by a single individual
davout: iup davidlatapie
davout: !up davidlatapie
davout: blergh
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: The NSA could kill b-c outside of davout's hands.
fluffypony: davout: is that BitcoinBourse's bet?
Apocalyptic: true
davidlatapie: hi davout willing to bet?
BingoBoingo: Their banking partners could make it impractical to continue b-c in ways out of davout's control
davidlatapie: http://bitbet.us/bet/826/bitcoin-central-out-of-business-in-2014/
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin-Central out of business in 2014 :: 0.24 B (2%) on Yes, 10.09 B (98%) on No | closing in 7 months 1 week| weight: 90`855 (100`000 to 1)
davout: Apocalyptic: the point is that any of the main reasons for which it could shutdown couldn't be easily concealed by me
Apocalyptic: though "Yes prevails if there is an official announcement of the end of operations"
Apocalyptic: i guess if NSA kills b-c it won't resolve as yes
Apocalyptic: davout: you can just say it's not profiterable anymore of that the company has changed plans
davout: that would constitute a yes
Apocalyptic: it would
davout: who cares whether i think it's profitable
davout: the bet will resolve as yes, because we won't be able to hide the fact that trading has ceased
davout: anyway, if you think i'll manipulate the bet outcome, just bet on 'no' :-)
Apocalyptic: i think no such thing :)
davidlatapie: davout: this is really a shame that b-c closes. The only exchange to be fully compliant with EU regulations and be completely located in the Eurozone :(
davidlatapie: Hi Quanttek
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: wait, it's closing nao ?
davout: i'm just hiring davidlatapie to spread rumors and slander
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43200 @ 0.0009351 = 40.3963 BTC [-]
davidlatapie: davout wants to make big money :)
fluffypony bets 10 BTC on yes
fluffypony: oh oops, fingers slipped, ended up on no
davidlatapie will better buy MRO or TEK
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 560 @ 0.00019049 = 0.1067 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1203 @ 0.00018672 = 0.2246 BTC [-] {7}
benkay: i'm not seeing the bet, fluffypony
benkay: ...
benkay: other updates from the openssl mines
fluffypony: benkay: I know, I lied
fluffypony is ashamed
benkay: when we build this ios app with openssl, everything works just dandy building and derping the thing directly onto the phone
benkay: er, debug
benkay: when built for 'debug' (whatever that means in the context of ios), openssl's just dandy.
fluffypony: in debug does it not use different libs than release?
benkay: when built and packaged per the nondeterministic build for distribution process, openssl refuses to hilariously generate rsa keys
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 25 @ 0.03343 = 0.8358 BTC [+] {5}
benkay: i am just the phb on this project
benkay: relating stories of woe and amuse
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.03343117 = 0.5683 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 374 @ 0.095 = 35.53 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: sounds like shock and aw
thestringpuller: or wow and flutter
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03345833 = 0.4015 BTC [+] {3}
benkay: the hilarious thing is that all of the other keygen routines work just dandy
BingoBoingo: Dun dun
benkay: so derp
bitcoinpete: howdy y'all
princessnell: hola
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/dmac1/status/469581341605232640
assbot: Uber in talks to raise ~ $500M in funding round valuing the taxi-hailing app > $12B http://t.co/lqykSixkuV by /EvelynRusli /MikeSpectorWSJ
bitcoinpete: this is why my golf and badminton buddies, all in their late 20's, want to develop apps
bitcoinpete: one for hospital patient management, one for social media/advertising
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0335 = 0.1005 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: it's nuts
bitcoinpete: it's the lottery
bitcoinpete: a very expensive lottery
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03344 = 0.1003 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: where only the speshul app developers win
thestringpuller: apps suck
thestringpuller: fucking command line please
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00093873 = 9.0118 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: so benkay's cmd > songza
bitcoinpete: then there's this bicycle flywheel+app zaniness that raised $700k on tardstarter
bitcoinpete: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X4rZhOEHT0
assbot: FlyKly Smart Wheel - YouTube
bitcoinpete: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/flykly/flykly-smart-wheel
assbot: FlyKly Smart Wheel by FlyKly — Kickstarter
bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/05/22/energy_economics_coal/ << tis a suprisingly abundant planet, this.
assbot: You know all those resources we're about to run out of? No, we aren't The Register
bitcoinpete: kakobrekla:meanwhile in argentina; http://bitcoin-assets.com/static/var/ferreteria.gif << fucking priceless! lmao. "of course I count them!"
thestringpuller: is that safe for work?
thestringpuller: :D
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Very safe for work
Apocalyptic: <thestringpuller> apps suck
Apocalyptic: <thestringpuller> fucking command line please // if only more people would realize that
bitcoinpete: chetty: dun matter about reality, matters what folks think. Apocalyptic: it's exactly the other way around << pretty much
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4987999 BTC [+]
fluffypony: thestringpuller: "how can an app be real without a GUI?????" - Windows user
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: If the US couldn't even extradite Bobby Fischer in his lifetime, I dun see how they are extraditing mircea_popescu << long time ago. different rules now.
fluffypony: "How Can Apps Be Real If GUIs Aren't Real" - Jaden Smith
BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: Different alleged transgressions as well that basically amount to ignoring the US.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17850 @ 0.00094062 = 16.7901 BTC [+] {2}
bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: the clay-footed monster ain't breathed its last breath yet.
jurov: now if the hipsters did not kill phones with physical qwerty kbd
jurov: now i have to either stick to my xperia mini pro or wait for neo900 or jolla cover
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.0404799 = 0.2024 BTC [+]
joecool: fuck jolla
joecool: asshats
jurov: why?
joecool: because they misrepresented their entire project and goals
joecool: goal to be open? yeah ok, they said absolutely nothing about the other half, didn't ship it with a flasher
joecool: and when someone figured out how to reload part of it, they locked down the bootloader
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.095 = 2.47 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26450 @ 0.00093873 = 24.8294 BTC [-]
joecool: most of the devs in tmo turned their back on the project after that
joecool: i had the n9 and toyed with sailfish on it, was not too impressive
joecool: i have a preorder in for neo900
joecool: currently switched to a Z10 for a daily phone because it actually works and the UI is a bit like harmattan on the N9 was
joecool: but stoked about the neo900 project
bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Spinoza's Politics? << good start
BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: The problem with clay feet is they erode in running water. The US seems to be slowly realizing that unlike stupidity with its infinite hitpoints, the US has finite and declining influence to expend.
BingoBoingo: Also for Spinoza the posterboard as note taking surface is a serious suggestion. You are going to want a large surface to map out the relations of things in the text.
bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: i could see a posterboard being useful.
BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: In the class where we read the ethics I had a sheet for each chapter.
bitcoinpete: as for the us, its power is certainly finite and declining, though it may use its remaining hitpoints for god knows what
bitcoinpete: heh cool
bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/469597073029873665
assbot: Recommended reading from the /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash-assets library: http://t.co/IoN54dvBK3
bitcoinpete: ;;rate BingoBoingo 1 spinozan, blogger
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jurov: don't we have wiki for this?
bitcoinpete: for...
jurov: for recommended reading
jurov: hm i don't have an account... kakobrekla?
fluffypony: jurov: ask moiety to add it
jurov: ok, i'll gladly delegate it :)
jurov: ain't this the first irc chan with a secretary?
bitcoinpete: and the largest!
bitcoinpete: and the bestest!
bitcoinpete: and quite possible the last
fluffypony: AND A PHONE NUMBER!
bitcoinpete: and yes, we have a wiki, it's just that sometimes its shelves overflow and i have to give those books a new home. on twitter
fluffypony: that makes it special
bitcoinpete: ;;ticker
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jurov: !up MobGod
bitcoinpete: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=BLISS << bwahahah
assbot: Havelock Investments
bitcoinpete: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLrQ40qUegg&feature=youtu.be
assbot: Bliss Devices - FPGA Demo of Scrypt ASIC Design (Official) - YouTube
bitcoinpete: "a proven track record of first-time-right ASIC design and production"
bitcoinpete: lol in the video, they mine auroracoin
thestringpuller: is fluffypony around?
thestringpuller: i need a hug
fluffypony: yes
fluffypony hugs thestringpuller
thestringpuller: YAAAAAAY
thestringpuller: rough day
thestringpuller: i did a git reset --hard before I committed
thestringpuller: and lost a days worth of work
fluffypony: omg
fluffypony: much hugs
fluffypony: need a dogecoin?
bitcoinpete: or a ripple?
fluffypony: now now
fluffypony: don't be insulting
fluffypony: Bitcoin Plus?
bitcoinpete: lol
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/469603782402138115
assbot: How Education Drives Inequality Among the 99% http://t.co/8BQzfvLkbu via /WSJecon
bitcoinpete: derping about how education drives inequality. give me a fucking break
bitcoinpete: on a lulzier note: a bluetooth iphone app bbq meat thermometer is a thing
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/469602550635708417
assbot: I haven't said "NO!" this many times in a row since watching The Machinest. http://t.co/aEVYZSsZpi
bitcoinpete: almost 10% of americans are worth saving
bitcoinpete: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/climate-science-is-a-hoax-big-oil-gop-god-say-so-2014-05-22?mod=wsj_share_tweet
assbot: Climate science is a hoax: Big Oil, GOP, God say so - Paul B. Farrell - MarketWatch
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94500 @ 0.00093293 = 88.1619 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 90 @ 0.04049552 = 3.6446 BTC [+] {5}
bitcoinpete: http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2014/05/22/h-p-fiscal-second-quarter-earnings-call-live-blog/
assbot: H-P cutting additional 11,000 to 16,000 jobs; results accidentally posted on site: live blog - The Tell - MarketWatch
dub: bitcoinpete: -assets official position is siding with big oil fyi
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 40 @ 0.04 = 1.6 BTC [-]
dub: global warming is a scam, obama is causing the symptoms with his weather machine etc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 43 @ 0.0057001 = 0.2451 BTC [-] {2}
bitcoinpete: dub: just industry looking out for industry
benkay: !up neilol
benkay: plenty of shit to burn errywhere
dub: if we run out of stuff we can burn all these lying scientists
fluffypony: I vote we throw the jew down the well
fluffypony: so my country can be free
dub: for DPRK!
dub is liking his new desk
fluffypony: dub: got an iPhone eventually?
fluffypony: :-P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00093302 = 29.67 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9832 @ 0.00093997 = 9.2418 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: dub: what's so speshul about this new desk?
bitcoinpete: and if anyone has any office chair recommendations, shoot away!
fluffypony: SteelCase
fluffypony: I have a Leap WorkLounge atm
fluffypony: Gesture is good too
fluffypony: original Leap if you're into old school
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00459 = 0.3672 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: yup worklounge looks freaking amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
bitcoinpete: lol got me
bitcoinpete: kinda need one of those now
bitcoinpete: working w/o a headrest is fucking criminal
benkay: working in a chair is fucking retarded
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 420 @ 0.095 = 39.9 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: http://gothamist.com/2014/05/22/photo_finally_you_can_buy_a_911_che.php#.
assbot: This 9/11 Cheese Plate May Be The 9/11 Museum's Most Tasteless Souvenir: Gothamist
bitcoinpete: benkay: that kinda goes for working in front of a screen. period.
bitcoinpete: body ain't designed for this shit
dub: bitcoinpete: looks like http://www.betterlivingthroughdesign.com/images/tressel_table01.jpg, bigger and lighter than old one anyway
assbot: Page not found — Better Living Through Design
bitcoinpete: dub: eh, basic
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.095 = 1.235 BTC [+]
benkay: p. true.
benkay: bitcoinpete: ^^
benkay: and yet leveraging the mind requires making sacrifices of the body. my goal is to minimize those sacrifices with such things as standing desks.
benkay: i think i actually just want a fancy tv camera tripod and a custom-machined platter for my laptop.
joecool: i have found the man facebook needs as their CFO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefri_Bolkiah
assbot: Jefri Bolkiah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
bitcoinpete: benkay: much sacrifice. tell me more about this custom laptop set-up you envisage!
bitcoinpete: i have a standing desk too. find it tough on the knees/hips
bitcoinpete: also, audiobooks are pretty sweet
bitcoinpete: joecool: bossy
bitcoinpete: http://qz.com/211959/alibaba-and-jd-com-are-battling-for-a-huge-emerging-market-poorer-inland-china/
assbot: Alibaba and JD.com are battling for a huge emerging market: poorer, inland China – Quartz
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.095 = 2.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 90 @ 0.095 = 8.55 BTC [+]