tmsr - Search: apple

mp_en_viaje: from "sex & the city" to "an apple a day's a dream faraway" in pretty much one short generation, huh. what wonders socialism hath wrought!

mircea_popescu: it's not the case that "mp can't have partners". it's self-obvious that mp can, and does. YOU are NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE ONE. it is on you, you're the bad part of the apple.

mircea_popescu: way the fuck better way to spend one's time than wanking over apple, in any case. and besides -- that's not even a v tree!

mircea_popescu: piece in short says that even the ridoinculous ufo-religions of the ustards / futurology produced things (eg, apple. or wikipedia)

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, the part you're missing is that the entire array is not made out of the one-worst-apple

mp_en_viaje: your blog just fails to properly say apple could buy russia, or montjoie saint denis, or whatever "you're supposed to say".

mp_en_viaje: but back to the issue : i suspect all things any one actually wants will be easier and readylier had by taking an older version and cutting it down to sit on tmsr computing environment than by trying to run it on the campbell-soupcan flavour of windows, be it "foss"/"gnu"/"linux"/adobe/oracle/apple/whatever, they;re all windowses

diana_coman: partially there is this obsession with "gotta be a mobile app"; and while sure, one could make a eulora client for mobile if they care for, first of all I DON'T CARE FOR THAT and second ffs, I'm not going to load into my head apple's shit now

mircea_popescu: i guess other trees might work, but certainly not fucking "prodution" apple or other 3 meter tall lolshits

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Huawei sells pNohe models that dwarf Apple in price. The own the high end with a strong presence in the mid range market

a111: Logged on 2019-04-27 11:23 mp_en_viaje: and to think THIS, specifically THIS promise of the internet, the computer, the future, got implemented for the mass market as apple library and google books and what the fuck not. seriously guyse, point and click interfaces and pageflip animations and "return the virtual book to library" ?

mp_en_viaje: and to think THIS, specifically THIS promise of the internet, the computer, the future, got implemented for the mass market as apple library and google books and what the fuck not. seriously guyse, point and click interfaces and pageflip animations and "return the virtual book to library" ? ☟︎

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-25#1909985 << quite very much so ; and it is i hope a shared goal to bring this item to the state of ye olde eulora client, where it jus tsplendidly worked, like apple shit always claimed to. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-04-13 19:40 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-12#1908374 << lulzily, ~the original problem apple was even invented to solve.

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-12#1908374 << lulzily, ~the original problem apple was even invented to solve. ☝︎☟︎

PeterL: I have a couple apple trees in my back yard, maybe this year I will try making some cider (they are still kinda little, had only a handful of apples last year)

a111: Logged on 2019-03-10 02:24 mircea_popescu: any fucking monkey picked out in the street could have made ~just as good~ a "corporate executive" as the fucktards apple hired -- and somehow nobody is telling them this. and of course the idiots don't have the werewithal to look in the mirror, "if plumbers were as good at plumbing as we are at executiving, we'd be quite literally swimming in the shit we're metaphorically drowning in!"

mircea_popescu: any fucking monkey picked out in the street could have made ~just as good~ a "corporate executive" as the fucktards apple hired -- and somehow nobody is telling them this. and of course the idiots don't have the werewithal to look in the mirror, "if plumbers were as good at plumbing as we are at executiving, we'd be quite literally swimming in the shit we're metaphorically drowning in!" ☟︎

mircea_popescu: in this very specific sense, "free and open source" is WAY worse than microsoft apple etc.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-08#1900966 << not clear to me that 'isms' are in play : afaik it's moar of the thing where the anglos have same relation to other folx as worm to apple ☝︎

mircea_popescu not about to pull a stink about it in the instant case, obviously. but the general config still is "wtf, can't use my own gentoo for this, gotta use apple's cable ?"

Mocky: 'thunderbolt' ports only, even for power. every periph unusable without holy water blessed apple dongle

asciilifeform: see, they haven't found how to make a jonathan apple from anthracite just yet. Moar Studies Needed (tm)(r)

a111: Logged on 2019-02-02 02:40 asciilifeform: asciilifeform's pet , ~erry day at breakfast : 'when can i eat apple that tastes like apple again'

asciilifeform: asciilifeform's pet , ~erry day at breakfast : 'when can i eat apple that tastes like apple again' ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-03 16:05 asciilifeform: but in very unrelated lulz, https://archive.is/bON1p >> 'It’s a bit absurd that a modern gaming machine running at 4,000x the speed of an apple 2, with a CPU that has 500,000x as many transistors (with a GPU that has 2,000,000x as many transistors) can maybe manage the same latency as an apple 2 in very carefully coded applications if we have a monitor with nearly 3x the refresh rate.'

mircea_popescu: at which point our story starts to flesh out : one day in recent memory i tried out this popsicle stick on apple juice, and holy hell it';s great. so now in an exploration mood, i tried out the cocoa in them, and OMFG, excellent icecream!

a111: Logged on 2018-12-22 17:22 mircea_popescu: hey, "apple has had a homogenizing and sanitizing effect on '''the internet''' (ie, the special reservation for morons, retards and other debris finding its way the fuck out since 1993)."

mircea_popescu: no, i mean apple. they're still out there trying to sell three inch "cables" for 19.95 aren't they ?

mircea_popescu: hey, "apple has had a homogenizing and sanitizing effect on '''the internet''' (ie, the special reservation for morons, retards and other debris finding its way the fuck out since 1993)." ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-12-11 23:38 asciilifeform: in older lulz, 1d 18h left on the https://www.ebay.com/itm/Symbolics-MacIvory-model-3-8-MW-in-an-Apple-Quadra-650-80-MB-9-GB-Genera-8-3/113428507092 auction; i'ma bid, and if can get for under 5 , will have the thing xray tomographied ( sadly i have a quite finite budget presently for the proj )

asciilifeform: in older lulz, 1d 18h left on the https://www.ebay.com/itm/Symbolics-MacIvory-model-3-8-MW-in-an-Apple-Quadra-650-80-MB-9-GB-Genera-8-3/113428507092 auction; i'ma bid, and if can get for under 5 , will have the thing xray tomographied ( sadly i have a quite finite budget presently for the proj ) ☟︎

mircea_popescu: no, it's not. "today i tried to boot my bolix, had to re-write apple bus"

phf: re ivory i think we had a thread about macivory being much easier to reverse, since it's all isolated, but you will still have to spend time (re?)learning the gnarly details of apple bus, and whatever adhoc protocol is used to communicate with host. going by an xl might not be a worse option

mircea_popescu: but it's not exactly clear what relationship there is, between the 2015 died-anyway would-be openbsd continuator, and the 1990s "fuck windows" alf's-apple-notion competitor.

a111: Logged on 2015-07-12 05:19 assbot: End in sight for Google, Apple, Intel and Adobe wage-fixing lawsuit • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1L7gXQV )

diana_coman: or possibly the idea is that apple phones are indeed extremely similar to chewing gum

mircea_popescu: i don't get it, dude "didn't understand technology", bought wrigley. is the idea apple phone spits out wrigley spearmint flavour ?

asciilifeform: '"I do not focus on the sales in the next quarter or the next year," he said in August. "I focus on the ... hundreds, hundreds, hundreds millions of people who practically live their lives by it [iPhone]." He also called the iPhone "enormously underpriced," saying that it's worth far more than the $1,000 Apple charges for its latest models.'

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathendom lulz, 'Buffett Loses Nearly $4 Billion as Apple Stock Tanks'

mircea_popescu: cuz "why should kids build toys they didn't pay for" amirite ? apple ftw ?

mircea_popescu: it's not so much "ti could have been the intel-microsoft/apple", but rather... it was. fucking was.

a111: Logged on 2018-10-06 20:05 asciilifeform: 'Discussion regarding article about apple and amazon denied that Chinese spies implemented backdoor chips into hardware' << uhm, 'казнить нельзя помиловать'

asciilifeform: 'Discussion regarding article about apple and amazon denied that Chinese spies implemented backdoor chips into hardware' << uhm, 'казнить нельзя помиловать' ☟︎

mircea_popescu: so no, it's not that "apple this" and "microsoft that" and "war on web" bla bla bla. if you permit internet access to inflate, you end up with a bulk of morons who STILL have no business on the web, once theyr'e there, just like they had no business on it before they were there.

a111: Logged on 2018-09-02 16:24 diana_coman: to me apple stuff is still essentially a fashion item and yes, usually that comes with insanity as far as I can tell

diana_coman: to me apple stuff is still essentially a fashion item and yes, usually that comes with insanity as far as I can tell ☟︎

mircea_popescu: in general, "sell the policeman an apple for twice what you'd sell it to an orc" is sounder policy than alternatives.

a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 15:01 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathendom lulz, https://archive.is/43EIJ >> 'Amid mounting public pressure to address Jones' hate speech, Apple's Tim Cook and Eddy Cue met over the weekend and decided to pull five of Jones' podcasts from their platform'... << 'по просьбе трудящихся'(tm)(r) !

asciilifeform: 'Hours after Apple announced its move, Mark Zuckerberg and his team at Facebook made the decision to pull four of Jones' pages' etc.

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathendom lulz, https://archive.is/43EIJ >> 'Amid mounting public pressure to address Jones' hate speech, Apple's Tim Cook and Eddy Cue met over the weekend and decided to pull five of Jones' podcasts from their platform'... << 'по просьбе трудящихся'(tm)(r) ! ☟︎

mircea_popescu: sometimes you read like "here's a picture of the apple tree in socialism, as you can see, it makes fruit to help the 5year plan", you know that ?

a111: Logged on 2018-07-19 19:08 phf: macports or homebrew which are portage versions for apple. at least macports can still be used to build xquartz from scratch. i've not personally tried that in a long time, so it's possible that there's serious wrecker situation there.

mircea_popescu: esthlos there's no other approach available besides interpretation. there's no some way to "read the true reading" in the manner you can ingurgitate an apple.

a111: Logged on 2018-07-19 19:10 mircea_popescu: for that matter, apple wants to take advantage of tmsr-style release, let them get in l1. but even before that, it's so shocking to me alf would accept a binary from "bintray.com" as some sort of item.

mircea_popescu: for that matter, apple wants to take advantage of tmsr-style release, let them get in l1. but even before that, it's so shocking to me alf would accept a binary from "bintray.com" as some sort of item. ☟︎

phf: macports or homebrew which are portage versions for apple. at least macports can still be used to build xquartz from scratch. i've not personally tried that in a long time, so it's possible that there's serious wrecker situation there. ☟︎

phf: mircea_popescu: the upstream X is already a mess of libraries, substantial gymnastics are required to build it on any system without assistance of something like gentoo's portage. in case of apple things are typically distributed as a binary, which is what i linked above. xquartz.org also has the sources, that are patched versions of original freedesktop code. one could theoretically build that by hand, but typically one would use

mircea_popescu: let's put it this way : should i double click that on an apple, i'd find a bundle so that a) if i exclude all non-text files i can then b) use at least one specified version of a compiler chain i can build in same manner so as to c) produce object files which then d) run on my system.

phf: bsd libc, there's some creeping divergences that were introduced by apple in parts that are not covered by either posix or libc

mircea_popescu: phf and that thing is a pile of software which compiles with a chain of my choice into a functional x for a target (apple) system of my choice ?

phf: mircea_popescu: dmg opens with a double click on an apple

mircea_popescu: "installs" can NOT mean "use apple appstore". it must mean something in my hand.

mircea_popescu: phf it's a legitimate pov, seriously now. why should i have to follow the (closed source! very tenuous! and burdensome!) process apple chose ?

phf: some libc's (specifically in glibc, musl, there's also a custom one in busybox. presumably cygwin/mingw comes with a glibc derivative), but that shouldn't be used directly. PeterL's patch is not needed on linux/freebsd/apple.

a111: Logged on 2018-06-26 21:20 hanbot: mircea_popescu by design apple exists to try and make you use its thing, whether it's some itam or some os or some cable, and it'll make things maximally unpleasant for anyone not on the bandwagon, at any point where the nonapple and the apple touch.

mircea_popescu: of course, this may just be a problem of optics. apple tree keeps on giving for 30+ years, debian so far smoking nervously in the 1st decade corner.

mircea_popescu: ie, exactly the opposite way apple tries to go, with its "proprietary cables" bullshit.

phf is actually going to HOPE, which was always a parody of a "hacker culture", coming as it is from 2600 circles, but at it's in new york and it's an opportunity to spend time with my new york friends. last time i was at HOPE that was 2010 or so, when the whole theme was g.w.bush as 1984/hitler. at least hope delivers in lulz department. wozniak is going to be there, signing apple ii's or whatever.

a111: Logged on 2018-06-27 18:18 phf: vtools are already pre-heathened, support apple and freebsd

phf: vtools are already pre-heathened, support apple and freebsd ☟︎

mircea_popescu: it's not "apple". it's google, it's "fiat bonds". what, you're gonna issue fiat bonds, well, "gotta import this here 2mn loc of inane bs / assorted strange". it will include "gotta use ssh/dns/tor/etc" just as it will include "gotta http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-27#1830007 code of conduct" and so forth. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-06-26 21:21 mircea_popescu: besides, i betcha she's on some droid thing, rather than apple specifically.

mircea_popescu: besides, i betcha she's on some droid thing, rather than apple specifically. ☟︎

hanbot: mircea_popescu by design apple exists to try and make you use its thing, whether it's some itam or some os or some cable, and it'll make things maximally unpleasant for anyone not on the bandwagon, at any point where the nonapple and the apple touch. ☟︎☟︎

phf: esthlos: i don't think that's the case, squeak was his main apple project, but even going before than dynabook was already in the works at parc

esthlos: phf: I think he wanted to build something for adults, but his work at apple disillusioned him, american adults too retarded for multiple desktops etc. so then yeah, pedo phase

danielpbarron: (the fruit of the knowledge of good an evil was never descsribed as being an apple)