asciilifeform wrapping up a very gnarly ffa surgery, >2x speed boost. thx to ave1 for the gnat clues.
phf: asciilifeform: i was using the wrong arch archive, google blessed kernel boots with your user space
phf: oddly, unrelatedly and annoyingly the device reboots when i put it down too hard on the desk. i'm not slamming it, just a bit harder placement, it power cycles...
mircea_popescu: loose screw ?
asciilifeform: phf: i suspect this is a deliberate google retardation, thing has a gyro
asciilifeform: prolly curable by rebuilding ec fw
asciilifeform: phf: fwiw i put my c101pa in the graveyard for nao, it was massive sink of time with ~0 to show for it
phf: врагу не сдается нашъ гордый варягъ
asciilifeform: что тебе снится, крейсер chromebook
phf: tbh i assumed it was a lost cause around when cr50 was discovered. it's overall a worthwhile direction of exploration since i assume we're still gravitating towards an arm gentoo
asciilifeform: phf: pizarro cluster is running a ( pre-trinqueian, admittedly ) arm64 gentoo even nao
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in practical jewelry, https://78.media.tumblr.com/75bfce53ea94b6e17929a9a5a16d7265/tumblr_oim2ebcr5J1spwl2qo1_1280.jpg
phf: asciilifeform: right, and as far as we know right now cr50 doesn't have a remote/wifi access component. if it can't be wholly removed, maybe it can be "cut" (not necessarily by literally cutting the wire, but the direction of closing the plug hole)
asciilifeform: phf: what plug hole. thing charges from the usbc jacks, cr50 actually drives the charger logic.
asciilifeform: 1st class 'broken glass glue'.
mircea_popescu: honestly, a replacement chareger dongle would be a very good thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is approx on par with replacement dog head for hippo.
mircea_popescu: i don't follow
mircea_popescu: this arrangement where "laptop manages its own power" is bullshit.
mircea_popescu: i want my own, wholly separate, universal charger/manager.
asciilifeform: li-ion battery is not mircea_popescu's edison ups , where all you gotta do to charge is apply a voltage. it eats pulse train, with thermometer feedback, etc crapola.
mircea_popescu: ie, exactly the opposite way apple tries to go, with its "proprietary cables" bullshit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the whole stack has to be broken. if it takes giving up li ion, fine. whatever it takes.
mircea_popescu: no more of this "item manages its own power". it's insanity, and moreover very much of the same feather as "usg manages its own currency"
mircea_popescu: fuck that. worthless sluts go on their kneesd.
asciilifeform: well yes. it is possible to build something like a 1990s lappy. but not really out of ultraminiaturized crapple-style claptrap under microscope.
asciilifeform: one builds it from 0.
mircea_popescu: maybe there's a cut in between. anyway, as a matter of principle -- laptop may not manage its own power.
asciilifeform: i dun disagree with the 'no own power' thing, if i were designing a lappy i'd make it something like a https://archive.li/SAqOz , separate box for battery etc.
mircea_popescu: and along these lines, i'll dispute your ~0 to show for it. there's two classes of (very important!) things to show for it. one class is that now when i tell amstan he's the repugnant son of a stupid whore, there's loglines backing it up ; and when we discuss google as an instrument of evil, also.
asciilifeform: we already knew what google is, lol
asciilifeform: but otherwise sure.
mircea_popescu: obviousaly this was never ~needed~, but then again oil deposits were not ~needed~ either. yet in its wisdom mother nature has provided.
mircea_popescu: the other class, is that specific statements, such as the above, "item may not manage its own power" had opportunity to be stated.
asciilifeform: right
mircea_popescu: this, again, not needed, in the sense "obvious". yet, there they are, same deal.
mircea_popescu: now, i believe if you say we ate all the cheese that was in that trap, no further point in fucking with it.
mircea_popescu: but i don't believe you when you say there was no cheese.
asciilifeform: can't even be 100% sure of this. prolly doomed to come back to it at some point.
asciilifeform: but asciilifeform has massively backed up conveyor of urgent matter.
mircea_popescu: i would certainly not mind a "fuck you -- power control replacement" item just for the fuckshow of it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did describe a theoretical 'bake pad-for-pad replacement for cr50' variant.
asciilifeform: would need somebody to xray the pcb, and map the pads.
asciilifeform: possibly worth doing, if the hands can be found.
mircea_popescu: hey, i have a dime out or w/e waiting for a guy who's gonna do it this month cuz prev month was busy or w/e.
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: it's what it is.
asciilifeform: and naturally, ftr if http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-26#1829605 ever gets burned, insta-cure.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-26 02:49 asciilifeform: ftr : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-25#1829540 >>> http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EBB714BB058A1C4E7038551D7311FD597B374E3EDAB9984D7D0A9470E9E1A804 ;
mircea_popescu: right.
asciilifeform extracted all 3 magickeyz, they are in the l0gz
mircea_popescu: ie, just because you didn't get almond puree doesn't mean you weren't served desert.
asciilifeform: similar story to the amd keys thing.
phf: asciilifeform: are there screws under the pads on that thing?
asciilifeform: phf: yes
asciilifeform: phf: 3 out of 4 of'em have chassis screws
asciilifeform: phf: if you're about to spudge it open, lift the kbd slowly, i tore the touchpad hirosi connctr straight off the pcb in mine
mircea_popescu: alf is used to DC level couplings lol
asciilifeform: ( and it dun solder back on, comes off right with the tracks , bestest chinesium )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1763925 << oblig☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 17:10 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'целый день пилили и рубили -- не смогли компьютер починить...' (tm)(r)( asciilifeform's brother )
mircea_popescu: heh
phf: like most chinatech this thing looks good only before you start touching it with a screw driver :/
mircea_popescu: confucius sez no screw while driving plz.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/terribilibad/ << Trilema - Terribilibad
lobbes: !!deed http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2018/q2/hanbot_payment_receipt_bundled.txt
deedbot: accepted: 1
lobbes: !!v 4A21B9688BBB467C121F434897F806D31E34A3611071A63EE4BC99D5010B3D46
deedbot: Invoiced diana_coman 0.00003889 << http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2018/q1/diana_coman.txt http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2018/q2/diana_coman.txt
mircea_popescu: wtf i thought i v'd it
mircea_popescu: lobbes "<deedbot> mircea_popescu paid lobbes invoice 1"
mircea_popescu: a damn, i bet this wasn't first invoice. aite ima look into this tomorro.
diana_coman: lobbes, I don't follow; I paid the Q1 invoice http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1802318 so what bundled?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 22:21 diana_coman: !!pay-invoice lobbes 1
diana_coman: ftr I checked and it shows in ledger too so it clearly went through
deedbot: http://deedbot.org/bundle-530288.txt
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831316 <-- I'd contemplated adding a small gc, but I gotta do some reading on the subj before making a decision. so it's still open to discussion, and I'll study the log threads while I'm at it.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 16:52 mircea_popescu: spyked re http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/074-adalisp-prototype.html what if anything do you plan to do re memory management ? gc in particular, but not just.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831324 <-- oh I see! I'ma keep this in mind.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 17:24 mircea_popescu: i'm looking for roads into the os. could be from phf's emacs, could be from spyked 's lisp, could be from your arms, could be from whatever the fuck ends up working.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831425 <-- to add to the list of weird behaviours: ada "get char" function doesn't eat newlines, so when typing a number alone, say: echo "42" | ./test_repl , nothing'll happen. user must add an explicit space after the number.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-02 22:34 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831410 << his work in progress parser doesn't handle end of file, so as of right now the error is normal
spyked: and in other http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812182 , I am happy to report that the may-june shithub harvest is over. sadly, I was about a month off in my estimations ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814257 ), a lesson for me to not trust initial figures: in the first days, my harvester was doing 3-4 keys/s, while a couple of weeks later teh githubs started rate-limiting, or worse, cutting off connections arbitrarily.☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 14:53 spyked: can confirm it worx: e.g. https://api.github.com/users?since=46 returns users starting from id 47.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 10:15 spyked: ftr, I've gathered about 700k keys in the last 3-4 days; if the total number hasn't changed too much from the previous 6.9M, I estimate I should have all of them in 20-30 days from now.
spyked: anyways, I am working on putting the ssh keys in the proper format and preparing the full report, there's some extra lulz to be extracted from this experience.
lobbes: diana_coman: ah yup. right you are. Error on my record-keeping end. I'll cancel that one and issue a new one later tonight
diana_coman: lobbes, cool, thanks
lobbes was staring directly at his !!sent-invoices too. must've been lack-of-sleep brain
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.li/mt8rj << google, just as i expected, working on using cr50 to abolish the 'at least can boot own linux' 'hole' entirely
asciilifeform: ( there's '9000+' possible ways to do this, and without changing pcb layout at all; already the thing can inspect fw, ram, etc. and reset the box if it doesn't like what it finds )
asciilifeform: in the fritz business, they call it 'attestation'
mircea_popescu: spyked evidently, if adalisp isn't tabletop systems engineering, then what is it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, at least it does no evil, amirite.
asciilifeform: lolly
mircea_popescu: trinque lobbes in other weird : <deedbot> Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.00010742 ; which i paid, and which shows in ledger as me having paid him 00100800.
mircea_popescu: at first i looked for a weird bug that turns 010742 into 100800 ; buyt then it turned out he had already sent me an invoice, for that amt, back in oct 2017, which i re-paid
mircea_popescu: so trinque could it be possible to not be possible to pay the same invoice twice cuz that's the point of invoices in the first place, they should die once paid
mircea_popescu: and lobbes don't invoice for 9 digit figures because bitcoin has 8 digits!
mircea_popescu: and also, you wanna pay me the extra back in ecu in eurloa or keep it on books as prepayment for future auctions ?
trinque: yeah that's certainly a bug, will fix.
trinque: fixed!
mircea_popescu: ty!
asciilifeform: that was fast
mircea_popescu: AAA+++ service would bug again
mircea_popescu: trinque aaand if that can be relied upon, can i also rely on the semantics of !!pay-invoice lobbes 1 to pay the !~first curtrently outstanding~ invoice
mircea_popescu: thereby freeing me from a) the need to dns-check and b) the need to communicate my kyc history every time i pay ?
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in barnum's 'suckers born erry minute', https://archive.li/3CVPx >> '...posing as admins, mods, or other key figures in the cryptocurrency world, posting messages that urged users to type a long command inside their Mac terminal, claiming to help with various problems..' etc
asciilifeform: 'key figures' didjaknow.
mircea_popescu: there's been a definite uptick in schmucks trying to pretend they're me on fetlife. and i suppose similarly on obscure webshits i don't know about.
trinque: mircea_popescu: the invoice number thing is baked a little more deeply than what I just changed. what do you think of "!!pay-invoice lobbes" with no integer to mean "first received and outstanding" ?
mircea_popescu: im all for it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: kinda hard to picture what the pretense wins for'em
trinque: cool, will do
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ill publish later a sad story, should make it obvious to you.
asciilifeform: 'hi, i'm mircea_popescu , send me 1btc and i will bless you with magical mircea_popescuinity powerz' ?
mircea_popescu: trinque this also gives teeth to the reject-invoice semantics, because you'd better fucking reject the ones you don't intend to pay
mircea_popescu: ;est you end up paying them later
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you wanna write out a prediction, you got about an hour or so ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am at a loss for prediction, aside from above
mircea_popescu: aite, ima prep it.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-catfishing-story/ << Trilema - The catfishing story
trinque: wahahaha, ok, who trolled this girl? fess up.
asciilifeform: twist : what if was a hand-cranked mitm.
asciilifeform: pose as gurl, to mircea_popescu , pipeline to/from gurl2
asciilifeform: a la douchebag
mircea_popescu: ikr ?
asciilifeform pictures a N-height pile of these
asciilifeform: picture the exhaust end of this pipe.
mircea_popescu: to quote from item in http://trilema.com/2018/so-whats-out-there/ : "Its only good in major city's .. Here's some tips ,copy and paste Dom profiles not in your area . You wouldn't believe how many cute girls msg me because of my profile ... "
mircea_popescu: indian can't be arsed to figure out english plural ; but knows from his mula & stramula how "anonimity" works for cock roaches.
mircea_popescu: but this aside, the "i will bless" africana is also present, and has been, for a long time. eg http://trilema.com/2013/a-deal-can-be-anything/#selection-27.0-27.105
mircea_popescu: back when doge counted as an exemplar.
mircea_popescu: the ethereum of 2013.
mircea_popescu: neways, bbl.
mod6: this catfish story!
mod6: <+trinque> wahahaha, ok, who trolled this girl? fess up. << LOL right?!
mod6: i about spit out my mineral water when I saw the wired/openbsd link
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-03#1831431 << looks like it indeed was a loose screw. reassembling the thing fixed the issue☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-03 01:07 mircea_popescu: loose screw ?
asciilifeform: ha
BingoBoingo: And the fiber is here
mod6: nice!
asciilifeform: congrats BingoBoingo
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/07/ugandans-evading-social-media-tax/ << Qntra - Ugandans Evading Social Media Tax
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re ^ -- imho vpnism is even lulzier than torism. at least the tor suckers dun have to pay for it.
asciilifeform: the popularity of vpnism was always a puzzler to asciilifeform .
deedbot: http://trinque.org/2018/07/03/brief-hiatus-on-withdraw/ << trinque - Brief hiatus on Deedbot Wallet !!withdraw
trinque: inb4 omg gox!!11
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: trinque going to sea or wat
trinque: for all anyone knows I'll be sitting behind the front door with a shotgun for 7 days
trinque: will say upon return
asciilifeform: hey that;s as good vacation as any
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That it is.
BingoBoingo: In other news, lines at the gas station like I haven't seen since 9-11
BingoBoingo: And in still other local news: https://www.elobservador.com.uy/la-whiskeria-luna-roja-pidio-disculpas-sortear-una-chica-gratis-n1250956
BingoBoingo: "La whiskería Luna Roja, denunciada por organizar una promoción con motivo del Mundial en el que sorteaba "una chica gratis" pidió disculpas por la iniciativa. A través de su cuenta de Facebook señalaron que lamentan el episodio y que no fue la intención "herir la sensibilidad de nadie""
asciilifeform: whiskeria lol
BingoBoingo: Ah, and found out why the cars are lined up. Gasoline is going up 9% but "Supergas" (propane) is not
asciilifeform: in other interesting rtfm's, 'The GNAT compiler supports dimensionality checking. The user can specify physical units for objects, and the compiler will verify that uses of these objects are compatible with their dimensions, in a fashion that is familiar to engineering practice. The dimensions of algebraic expressions (including powers with static exponents) are computed from their constituents.' (ch. 6.5)
asciilifeform: ( https://docs.adacore.com/gnat_ugn-docs/html/gnat_ugn/gnat_ugn/gnat_and_program_execution.html#performing-dimensionality-analysis-in-gnat for the interested gnatologist )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-03#1831567 << militant technological illiteracy ftw!!1☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-03 19:22 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-03#1831431 << looks like it indeed was a loose screw. reassembling the thing fixed the issue
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: sad part is, thing really does have a gyro. but asciilifeform does not currently know what, if anything, the enemy fw does with the output.
asciilifeform: magnetometer, too
asciilifeform: ( current-day chipset makers are very much of the same 'why not' mentality as the bloaty software folx )
mircea_popescu: i believe. yet...
asciilifeform: for instance, the days of desolderable microphone are coming to a close, on-die 'mems' mikes are coming.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-03#1831586 << i don't recall, is prostitution legal there too ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-03 21:26 BingoBoingo: "La whiskería Luna Roja, denunciada por organizar una promoción con motivo del Mundial en el que sorteaba "una chica gratis" pidió disculpas por la iniciativa. A través de su cuenta de Facebook señalaron que lamentan el episodio y que no fue la intención "herir la sensibilidad de nadie""
asciilifeform: ( gyro, btw, demonstrably doubles as a mike, usg has a well-developed and afaik somewhat successful 'audio bug via pnoje gyro' thing )
asciilifeform: good for picking up, e.g., nearby kbd presses
asciilifeform: in other interesting rtfm's, https://docs.adacore.com/gnat_ugn-docs/html/gnat_ugn/gnat_ugn/building_executable_programs_with_gnat.html#style-checking << it is possible to trigger enforcement of, e.g., max line width, absence of winblowz linefeeds, tabs, etc