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asciilifeform: re older asciilifeform items , there is e.g. http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/stats .
asciilifeform: btw recall the one re phuctor ?
asciilifeform: incidentally, and for thread-completeness, gotta add, for certain patterns of failed m-r sequence , you end up with output that gets you a factor. this item is actually on the phuctor conveyor, when i get a free hand to crank it again
asciilifeform: ( even moar interesting, would be to find litmus for some variant of this being in use, then could point it at phuctor collection & pull trigger )
asciilifeform quite interested in conceptual diddles on m-r in light of phuctor
a111: Logged on 2018-11-15 02:29 asciilifeform: phuctor ( and in particular, some of the 'heavier' / unusual pheatures, like search ) i baked specifically around postgres.
a111: 5 results for "mit phuctor", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=mit%20phuctor
asciilifeform: !#s mit phuctor
asciilifeform expected to find that linked item is re ~mass~ gcd, in the sense of 'bernsteinization' used in phuctor. but apparently djb has nothing to add re ~that~
mircea_popescu: which is exactly the point : they're cutting their own trees because they're their own. if you were cutting it, conceivably it'd be with phuctor python, that being yours, and so o.
asciilifeform: would have to write it by hand. ( could use phuctor's as a base, but would rather not perpetrate another pythonism.. )
asciilifeform: i still wonder why phf and ben_vulpes didn't take a shot at genesising theirs ( asciilifeform , for instance, posted the phuctor frontend, fwliw )
asciilifeform: 'mit phuctor'
mircea_popescu: actually, do you recall those "business" imbeciles discussing "the superior alternative to phuctor" and "what to do in case of divorce" roth-blabla in the same breath ?
mircea_popescu: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9DC9F3BB2B585BD6595854875C7BAFED9AB3639EC8602A8BB469829C8390776C << for lulz.
asciilifeform: this btw is how asciilifeform implemented phuctor backend.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895093 <afaik those also saved by phuctor rite ☝︎
mircea_popescu: tbh this thing is moving along quite prettily ; once we've had eulora and phuctor run on it for a few months we'll know whether it's stable or not and if not what to fix.
asciilifeform: phuctor is actually due for a redisking , for expanded space, would like to combine this with encuntooation, once we establish that pg runs
mircea_popescu: seems like the "i run it all day" glove could benefit from the sort of heavy duty brush phuctor can provide.
mircea_popescu: yes but neveremind the generalities. specifically phuctor, it's from what i understand just python ?
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, hey asciilifeform do we have any plans to move phuctor to cuntoo ?
a111: Logged on 2017-02-19 03:54 asciilifeform: (iirc we had a thread where i described how corporate ameritards, if given a problem like phuctor, would happily soak up a few $mil and megawatt of iron)
asciilifeform: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/search?q=from+74.90. << bonus lul
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these folx so stupid they dun even know how to mit-phuctor ??
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: after ffa is fielded, i'ma add gmp etc carmichaelisms to phuctor.
asciilifeform: ( phuctor connects to a local instance of postgres, so in that sense similar )
mircea_popescu: nah, i'd hope phuctor's better interfaced.
asciilifeform: so like phuctor.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in 'mit phuctor'-style lulzattempts at thefts from republic, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/vL8Rj/?raw=true << d00d implements keccak for z80, and naturally claims great 'invention', where , e.g., 'new meaning to retrocomputing-based perfect forward secrecy. In the contemporary concern about tampering and traps in our computing devices...'
asciilifeform: ( phuctor, ftr, uses a (patched, to enable bigger ints) old gmp. with asmisms enabled. )
asciilifeform: the 1 application where ffa defo dunwork, and koch -- does, is phuctor.
asciilifeform: the 'uncut' gmp is not afaik used anywhere in our mechanisms, with the exception of phuctor, where a (patched) variant is used for bernsteinization
asciilifeform: test was re koch's arithm engine (which does take arbitrary exps etc, and a patched ver is used in e.g. phuctor)
asciilifeform: phuctor was specifically conceived as a spiked, electrified cock to be driven deep into the arses of the 'we measured, won't say' people, whatever their nominal flag
mircea_popescu: there's a long history of "fuckers, phuctor" specifically driven by this behaviour, so no, it's not liable to be popular in general.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881163 << fwiw in the end i tuned phuctor so has transactions + indices + fast + sliced bread ☝︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in phuctor q&a, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/1zcrs/?raw=true
asciilifeform: all i can add , is that i get a coupla MB of phuctor traffic from cn on a typical day.
asciilifeform: ~if~ yer pushing the very limits of what's physically possible on your iron, as in e.g. phuctor -- THEN is the time to massage/hyperoptimize. not otherwise.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-19 03:54 asciilifeform: (iirc we had a thread where i described how corporate ameritards, if given a problem like phuctor, would happily soak up a few $mil and megawatt of iron)
asciilifeform: showed up in reaction to the phuctor pop of same.
asciilifeform: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1F1F9C0BC12E7C73E78AA81364660EEB11D235950DB7509E5927D826A2ED721B fwiw, has been alive for at least that long
asciilifeform: ( laugh all you like, this was actual problem in phuctor initially )
asciilifeform: ( phuctor keeps errything, even raw keyz, in db, nowadays )
asciilifeform: ( even phuctor did! back when it weighed a GB or 2 )
asciilifeform: ( current mass of compressed phuctor snapshot )
BingoBoingo: Consider Phuctor is a sorta bespoke thing. DB software architect can't antipate a Phuctor and how its filled. On the other hand most mysql installs power wordpress.
asciilifeform: phuctor ( and in particular, some of the 'heavier' / unusual pheatures, like search ) i baked specifically around postgres. ☟︎
asciilifeform: there's imho a niche for the above -- items like phuctor
asciilifeform: ( even phuctor made it into some ru thing 1ce )
asciilifeform: ( or was it 'blue wall of silence', phuctor-style )
asciilifeform: it is possible that there's some format gnarl that i haven't accounted for , tho, i haven't tried erry elephantine key on it ( should really test by walking phuctor db )
mircea_popescu: taking the evident and less fraught example of phuctor -- yes, "tel you what, ima dake djb results and apply!", genius. but "let's actually divide some numbers" absolutely spade, and it is this latter that yielded.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it's an empty niche, sorta like phuctor's pre-phuctor
asciilifeform: it's actually one of the reasons i haven't ever finished rewrite of phuctor in cl. erry time i sat down to do it, barfed on one of these things
mircea_popescu: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/search?q=cuckoo << nb even.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phuctor goes in <1s
asciilifeform: until recently i also 'why should phuctor have search, i can search in postgres console'
asciilifeform: initial draft is a plain phuctor-like www display tho
asciilifeform: speaking of trb, i dusted off an old conveyor item, phuctor-like www proggy that maps out noadez ( you give it ips, and it connects to'em, then issues 'version' and 'getaddr', and builds a graph )
asciilifeform: ( i expect same result as my phuctor propaganda, but imho mircea_popescu is right in that it oughta be tried, repeatedly , before can say 'it all goes to /dev/null' )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for long time i repeatedly 'hi omfg-rsa-xyz-of-the-day people, here's phuctor, i speak for...' etc. 0 result. but possibly was doingitwrong
asciilifeform: trinque: somehow! e.g. phuctor, displays on vert- and horiz- pnoje, vga, whatever.
asciilifeform: sorta like phuctor usedto have
lobbesbot: esthlos: Sent 2 weeks, 5 days, 21 hours, and 51 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com/#2018-08-17_1 << again it's 'phuctor' , not 'phunctor'
asciilifeform: usg.tor was precisely the 'faux-phuctor' they built to distract thinking folx from the very idea.
asciilifeform: at one time asciilifeform burned 20-40min erry day manually banning . then got tired of this and went to properly optimize the phuctor db so that it doesn't give a damn re load, up to line speed.
mircea_popescu: it's not a matter of "oh, we handled phuctor story" ; it's a matter of "failed to present republic with fifty virgin transsexuals and fifty million in cash post haste ? awwww..."
mircea_popescu: cocksuckers somehow managed to conjure up imaginary millions for donations to try and drown out http://trilema.com/2014/the-public-burning-of-bob-beck/ ; i don't recall the mns in donations post phuctor, for instance.
kristof: The only reason I was in #asciilifeform today was that I finally read all the phuctor phun in its entirety (yes, I was being a bonehad and didn't read the stats, sorry MP), thought "wait, that happened?" and dropped by.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-09-01 17:04 kristof: Can anyone tell me about how many broken keys phuctor has found?
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, lulzy phuctor thread in phuctor castle today, http://logs.bvulpes.com/asciilifeform?d=2018-9-1#422638
mircea_popescu: phuctor's.
asciilifeform: ( phuctor is only exception i know of , but not general purpose )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-30#1845869 << i solved this by biting the bullet and actually baking a desk clone of phuctor ☝︎
asciilifeform: it prolly aint lang barrier -- recall, they saw phuctor and translated, correctly, and even avoided swallowing boeck etc
mircea_popescu: if phuctor stayed forever in the "oh, if someone wants to... he could..." bla bla, we'd still have nothing there, and presumably be very happy with it, too. god knows kanzure amstan whatever other tard in the circus has nothing for their decade+, and are VERY happy with the state of affairs.
mircea_popescu: when phuctor came about, we spent a short while with the whole "oh, whoever wants can put in his key" and a comparatively much longer whole with the "will get all keys in existence not asking anyone anything". this is an important lesson, and it is 20-fucking-14 or some shit.
mircea_popescu: " 1. phuctor gets search feature 2. phuctor then runs out of disk"
a111: Logged on 2018-08-21 13:06 asciilifeform: !Q later tell esthlos http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com/#2018-08-17_1 << again it's 'phuctor' , not 'phunctor'
asciilifeform: !Q later tell esthlos http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com/#2018-08-17_1 << again it's 'phuctor' , not 'phunctor' ☟︎
asciilifeform: for some reason phuctor took'em 5y, i've nfi why
asciilifeform: which is imho next proper order of biznis for phuctor, generally speaking
mats: asciilifeform: have you put the 'CRoCS' set they refer to, into phuctor?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 14:07 Framedragger: mircea_popescu: what original thing did they take from phuctor, may i ask?
a111: Logged on 2017-02-19 03:54 asciilifeform: (iirc we had a thread where i described how corporate ameritards, if given a problem like phuctor, would happily soak up a few $mil and megawatt of iron)
asciilifeform: shinohai: funny how they never bother to straight up and lift the popped mods from phuctor
asciilifeform: meanwhile in lulzplagiarism, https://cybermashup.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/amiet-romailler-reaping-keys-final-slides.pdf << ( yes pdfturd ) >> best usg.phuctor to date
asciilifeform: in other lulz: phuctor has reader in... nigeria
asciilifeform: ( note, candidate modulus must already exist in phuctor collection )
asciilifeform: in other recent lulz, somebody submitted a http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2FF2BB54467E196A58785C82FC6B74E789ACA48679FF310D31DDFDCD0C934C7C . the item in the username corresponds to http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/03C39D10AC31A5845BE14895E18743165B7BA74E71D3D4A0D62710232203DAC3 . but the N of the former does not divide the M of the latter ( dunno whether the submitter thought that it does ? or what specifically he was tryin
asciilifeform: aaaand http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/faq updated.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not only it, but just about surely the other recurrent idjiocies in the zoo ( http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/factors )
BingoBoingo: I'll have to start reading the phuctor chunks from the bottom up
BingoBoingo: A lol in the spew: "deedbot> http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/23B2173C2FF1A9C43007D526720EA2B9EC1CB4AC21503429ACFBA1DA022517B3 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 3 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'James Bottomley <jejb@kernel.org>; James Bottomley <JBottomley@Odin.com>; James Bottomley <JBottomley@Parallels.com>; James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>; '"
a111: Logged on 2017-02-07 18:49 asciilifeform: hanbot: conceivably, a sabotaged generator that yields 2**32 possible keys, will result in ~0 natural collisions, and remain invisible to phuctor unless i first find it via some other means.
asciilifeform: buncha phuctor output, btw, in #asciilifeform , and prolly will through the night
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-12#1841047 << ok, but i mean, can't have phuctor grind to a stop because of it neh ? << If it's critical, it's critical, and will sell disk to S.NSA. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-12#1841047 << ok, but i mean, can't have phuctor grind to a stop because of it neh ? ☝︎