snsabot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 1d 5h 8m
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:37:33 spyked: mircea_popescu, re. tmsr lang: could be one of two or three (or I dunno how many) langs, as long as tmsr owns 'em. atm there's no genesis for a cl compiler/interpreter (let alone e.g. networking code a la usocket, or a curl etc.), so... inb4 "fuck you spyked, I can't even compile sbcl, how do you want me to stand up your logotron"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 17:36:55 mircea_popescu: earlier stopped at gelateria. nicely furnished. had no table service and only paper cups. ONE SIZE. no plates, no nothing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, is it hard to make timezone settable from www ? then can get free faux cross of page boundaries
mircea_popescu: (imho minor point of little utility ; i mistly ask out of curiosity)
mircea_popescu: in other ends-of-line, utc (maker of elevators) is merging its aerospace division with raytheon.
mircea_popescu: in simple words, the
F35 failure is bringing about a winter the likes of which was never seen ; previous achievement of
lisp monkeys nowhere within 1%
mircea_popescu: continuing trend set with "civil air managed to lose early 2010s the combined profits realised since man discovered flight" (and then continued by obama's ending of nasa to redirect the money no more properly african goals), white man is actually getting out of aerospace altogether.
mircea_popescu: Let halves of aeroplanes turn overhead, their smoking, broken cockpits dripping "it is done"...
mircea_popescu: there was, of course, no supersonic civil flight since the concorde/tu144 retirements, so i suppose we could use 1970s as a high water mark. but if anyone's having kids these days, i believe by the time they're our age their only interaction with flight will be in the
hanging-on-ropes format.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in highlights : the sr71 was probably man's greatest achievement wrt flight. item carried no flares/countermeasures, because its defense if fired upon was to... accelerate, and outrun the missile. mach 3 capable, flying at 20-25km, never shot down, its parts fit so loosely on the ground (because of the significant temperature variation it operated under, between relatively cold on the ground and very hot in super
mircea_popescu: sonic flight) that its fucking tanks leaked fuel on takeoff ~as a design feature~.
mircea_popescu: (great story re fabrication, too. item is 80%+ titanium, can't be washed in tap water, can't be touched with cadmium-plated tools, its story is totally worth reading from an 'achievement of human mechanical engineering' perspective.)
mircea_popescu: oh, and of course it burns synthetic fuel, rather than distillate. so yes, chemical engineering too.
mircea_popescu: 'find out how a loose assemblage of rare metal parts flew on insecticide', how about that for a title.
mircea_popescu: (and, while at it, how the first analog computers were developed -- no, it wasn't bomb calculators, it was jet engine air intake anti-unstarters for applications such as this guy.)
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i'm quite happy with jfw 's "Actually "mod_lisp" is perhaps a misnomer; it could be viewed as a generic IPC interface that comes with a Lisp implementation of the server side." comment.
mircea_popescu: apache is in many parts a better system (in the sense of "system" used in "systems design) than the post-poettering and especially post-linus kernels ; mod_lisp may be a decent way to get lisp running in practice
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 02:27:19 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, is it hard to make timezone settable from www ? then can get free faux cross of page boundaries
mircea_popescu: incredible, i never had that atrocious outrage ambered before ?!
mircea_popescu: btw asciilifeform is it practical to have an archival of links it sees bolted on to bot ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 06:09:42 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in highlights : the sr71 was probably man's greatest achievement wrt flight. item carried no flares/countermeasures, because its defense if fired upon was to... accelerate, and outrun the missile. mach 3 capable, flying at 20-25km, never shot down, its parts fit so loosely on the ground (because of the significant temperature variation it operated under, between relatively cold on the ground and very
mircea_popescu: large undergirth of the whole "republican-democrat" debate being pepsicans. most of the manginas involved were republicans.
mircea_popescu: but yes, the sort of thing involved there, such as "listen sonny, ever heard of Schlieren flow visualisation ? no ? look here, this is supersonic jet in flight!" are the primary dirvers of intelligent adolescents even putting in the work to become adult engieners in the first fuckin gplace
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, cheney's stupid cunt of a daughter inherited his wyoming ealrdom.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 04:02:39 mp_en_viaje: 3) the whole of it was always hanging out with the cool people. i don't mean, "cool", as in, swag. i mean cool as in david lynch quote above, dork bought a 12 room house for $3500 in th worst gangland he could find for his wife and newborn kid and lived there, "the fear was palpable"
mircea_popescu: if there's ten, ten million or no dumb cunts sitting around their holy tree or whatever the fuck chanting their spurious nonsense it makes no fucking difference whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: obviously from THEIR pov if there isn't any such thing as a spear to fucking poke them until they submit (yes, the SPEAR was the original society-changer, turned human tribes from matriarchy to patriarchy because finally there was an efficient way to make the dumb cunts stfu with their dumb nonsense) all the better ; but theirs isn't a legitimate pov.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, re the sr being expensive : it was not particularly expensive, even by the day's standards. it was however besed by the dumb cunt lobby who, for instance, WOULD NOT permit it get upgraded with a data link, SPECIFOCALLY so they could claim "useless -- data only avsilable on landing"
mircea_popescu: same bunch of morons who ALSO pushed through very expensive but otherwise mostly pointless sensor upgrade -- also specifically so as to claiom "costly"
mircea_popescu: but yes, the cunt lobby wants the tools destroyed, because the only thing that can oppose "let
mircea_popescu: s sit in a circle and pick lice out of each other" is tooling.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 09:36:22 asciilifeform: ( meanwhile in su they quietly built mach5+ machine... )
snsabot: Logged on 2017-11-14 17:19:44 mircea_popescu: via switzerland or directly.
diana_coman: lmao; I puzzled when first saw there "flask" - but then again, not sure one can bake www-anything quickly without importing any mess
mircea_popescu: in other same "burn down tools" : what unites the here discussed sr71 and the other excellent us plane ever built,
the warthhog ?
snsabot: Logged on 2018-08-29 12:10:45 mircea_popescu: pro tip : the thompson's a passible concrete cutter. it comes from the same mental era as
http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=warthog ; made by the same people for the same reasons, abandoned by the same cucks for the same reasons.
diana_coman had no idea what flask was and barely got an idea after looking it up when it popped up in stan's logger
mircea_popescu: a: they both had this projected faint light line around the cockpit representing the true horizon. set so faint as to disappear in direct vision, it nevertheless informed the (more sensitive) peripheral vision, preventing accidents wonderfully!
mircea_popescu: every time alf goes on about "mind enhancing tools" the pvhd is my mental model.
mircea_popescu: pretty much ONLY KNOWN SYSTEM where truthfully and genuinely, the promise of "drugs" or "tools" or whatever is actually fullfilled.
mircea_popescu: and no, of course "not needed", "do we still have to DO that". because why the fuck learn from the few and far between successes of that sorry failed republic.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, aha. as it happens human inner ear uniquely unfit for flight.
mircea_popescu: much like what makes a half decent soldier, or generally a half decent human being,
mircea_popescu: and yes, indeed their are -- her fucking guardian angels. never the fuck mine, holy shit burn the whole thing down.
mircea_popescu: load, load, why not. perfectly anti-reality nonsense, crafted to appeal to a certain sort of moron.
mircea_popescu: telling a girl she's complete is like telling a pig it's a sparrow.
diana_coman: ugh; I still call it misnomer though; "growing" like a tree without any internal work still doesn't mean that everyone's just as hollow
diana_coman: to link it to the previous thread, it seems to me quite similar to saying that "instinct" of noob pilot is shit, therefore instinct of *any* pilot, experience be damned, is just as shit; I seriously doubt this.
snsabot: Logged on 2018-03-24 12:14:29 mircea_popescu: right. rather in fact like respiration -- everyone has it, and ALL THE TIME ; it takes al schwartz to blow rather than inhale when organometallic fireball's going on.
diana_coman: well yes, but only the second should be called instinct, the first is at best some preprogrammed/random reaction, dunno (and same for feelings really; out of nothing, there's no feelings, only preprogrammed or random reactions)
diana_coman: "first" -> noob above; "second" - training + experience
diana_coman: in other words, it's no surprise walkers on soil have in fact absolutely no instinct for flying quickly high up in the air;
diana_coman: asciilifeform: dunno, if you define instinct as "automated path", then it can be acquired even for "untypical environ" and essentially the only thing is when one says "instinct" generically like that since it's not "one" but many and the whole thing is to know /be able to choose the right one
diana_coman: asciilifeform: sadly I never shot guns, no; (shot some bow and arrow but other than that, kills were of a more lower class countryside style rather than lord of the mannor)
diana_coman: heh, I learnt to cycle when I was...~24 :|
diana_coman: but because of that, I know precisely what it took - a very lucid learning, let's say; not "intuitive", no
diana_coman: but fwiw I think I know what you mean; the "gut instinct" is not a generally-good thing; it's good at what it's good and doesn't translate well to dissimilar environment basically
diana_coman: funnily enough re driving I had the precise opposite trouble: had to trust a bit more *some*O!!
diana_coman: the way I see it, it's simply shortcut obtained through experience; hence my statement above that it's not and cannot be out of nothing just like that; even what seems as "out of nothing" is just...forgot when learnt rather than truly out of nothing
diana_coman: and hence the trouble with different environment - if different enough, the previous experience is worse than useless because actively hinders
diana_coman is still looking for "where to host bot, wtf"
diana_coman: asciilifeform: my node is in singapore and it's been running perfectly fine
diana_coman: but I don't really want the logger there too
diana_coman: eh, the way I see it is more of an opportunity to look around again and try perhaps some datacenters
diana_coman: after all, it's a logger, not something terribly sensitive
snsabot: Logged on 2017-11-30 17:56:47 mircea_popescu:
https://www.tailhook.net/AVSLANG.htm << better list than the hacker lexicon, in purely lexical terms, and an evident source of the pencildick's envious, unreferenced cultural appropriation.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 09:36:22 asciilifeform: ( meanwhile in su they quietly built mach5+ machine... )
mircea_popescu: we utterly must have a logotron archiver, no way around it. hey lobbes is your still functional ? spyked , were you at some point downloading the zips or was it him ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 10:03:51 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re titanium -- they still sell it. (quasi-monopoly. but -- and common misconception -- it aint because of the sands, at least not directly; but rather because ru has the only seriously developed infrastructure for ti metallurgy )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 10:20:38 diana_coman: to link it to the previous thread, it seems to me quite similar to saying that "instinct" of noob pilot is shit, therefore instinct of *any* pilot, experience be damned, is just as shit; I seriously doubt this.
mircea_popescu: and this precisely mirrors female becoming : the way girl grows into ~woman~ is by NOT following her girlidiocy, but speciffically repressing it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 10:24:01 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'date' thing fixed. did find that clock on the box has drifted by + ~40min (it dun 'ntp'ism or any such.) suppose ought to fix (and get then phf-style odd timestamps) or leave alone ?
mircea_popescu: do you propose, sending out patrols to shoot in the gut and leave for dead any pantsuit saying "instinct" incorrectly ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 10:34:23 diana_coman: well yes, but only the second should be called instinct, the first is at best some preprogrammed/random reaction, dunno (and same for feelings really; out of nothing, there's no feelings, only preprogrammed or random reactions)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 10:37:23 asciilifeform: ( the other bit, is that vestibular 'stone' aint anyffin like a perfect gyro, it has substantial 'stickiness' )
snsabot: Logged on 2018-12-19 12:09:38 mircea_popescu: natural language, however, ablates the trees for "convenience" so to speak, ie, uses commonly what's known in computing as sparse trees.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 10:49:59 diana_coman: funnily enough re driving I had the precise opposite trouble: had to trust a bit more *some*O!!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 11:27:21 diana_coman: eh, the way I see it is more of an opportunity to look around again and try perhaps some datacenters
mp_en_viaje: sic transit, i guess Ima send the hilarity care packages in the hole, cigs wrapped in pantsuits.
mp_en_viaje: in other news, got a little moar pipe for trilema, turns out can only do so much of
that, want to or not. hopefully this alleviates, wtf.
BingoBoingo: Irony of Ironies is that North Argentina Pantsuit more likely to see a jail cell. South Argentina just might elect theirs President again.
mp_en_viaje: truth be told, chet took the secret of that perfection with her ; never did manage to reproduce.
BingoBoingo: I've been on a chili kick recently. Will probably photo blog something along those lines by the end of the month.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 14:23:48 mircea_popescu: we utterly must have a logotron archiver, no way around it. hey lobbes is your still functional ? spyked , were you at some point downloading the zips or was it him ?
lobbes: right now, though, I'ma get back to getting that znc-eater.py complete
lobbes: still needs some tweaking (e.g. it barfs on unicode) and more testing before genesis.
lobbes: However, it eats a dir full of ZNC logs, sorts in chronological order, puts it all into one file with proper unix epoch timestamps.