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mircea_popescu: who pulled revenue from ~outside~ of republic ? ian murdock ? mark cuban ? esr ? varanul ? things that don't exist don't exist because they dont' exist, can't go about blaming the inex
asciilifeform: ( the items which seem like exception -- e.g. gnat, where -- at least the ada part -- is almost readable -- to date were products of small group of actually organized effort , rather than 'esr's bazar' or whatnot )
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-25#1931127 << at some point the cocksuckers (true to form, see eg nonsense arguments as to "why did symbolics thinking men need mit") actually went to trouble to BUY the damn things. then brief period where "bought", with leafmoney, like esr's experience. and by now, they literally just expect to take over "by committee".
mp_en_viaje very much prefers being "that idiot who can't even" to anything else, if in exchange the typical esr-tardisms as per above don't get a foothold.
mp_en_viaje: https://esr.gitlab.io/loadsharers/ << straight up shanonization, even.
asciilifeform: err eric s. raymond
asciilifeform: dunthinkso, the famous judas is https://www.patreon.com/esr
asciilifeform: possibly i'm thick, but how does this work ? from surface , loox like thing where e.g. esr puts acct and then gets 'donation button' for his www, and idjits push, etc
asciilifeform: from horse's mouth
asciilifeform: re 'patreon', i kept waiting for the mention of the most famous lolcow parked there, but since no one did : esr
a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 05:26 asciilifeform: recall belenko, stole last model mig for.. not even '30 silvers', or esr's 'millions', but for life diet of canned cat food
asciilifeform: recall belenko, stole last model mig for.. not even '30 silvers', or esr's 'millions', but for life diet of canned cat food ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-06-19 16:38 asciilifeform: 'modern linux komyooniti' is quite loyal organ of 'tame opposition', the occasional 20m of biodegradable monopoly money gifted to the occasional esr (who incidentally is begging for change to buy wheelchair, reportedly his legs went) goes long way
asciilifeform: esr was somewhat atypical, in demanding his '30 silvers'
asciilifeform: 'modern linux komyooniti' is quite loyal organ of 'tame opposition', the occasional 20m of biodegradable monopoly money gifted to the occasional esr (who incidentally is begging for change to buy wheelchair, reportedly his legs went) goes long way ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-28#1899779 << cuz he figures their "idea" of "make money by consulting! like red hat!" poisonous esr nonsense was in practice implemented by breaking the standard for free, so you "buy product". ☝︎
asciilifeform: the pov where 'esr quisling, and if not for him, linux would work' is imho simplistic -- there were 9000 quislings, and maybe dozen frustrated honest folx . what could that possibly have added up to.
asciilifeform: valinux << iirc esr's warcrime
asciilifeform: lol 'surprised by wealth'(tm)(r)(esr)
asciilifeform: esr had a similar one, where 'surprised by wealth' or what was it.
asciilifeform: ox as well as it did for esr tho, his www already for year or 2 contains a begtron
asciilifeform: could have taken the 30 silvers and turned into esr in 1999, didn't.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-24 02:11 asciilifeform: it is interesting to consider diff b/w esr and linus. esr judased a thing he had 0 part in baking, and wanked for 20y on the periphery of. linus on oher hand merrily fucked not only the folx who were dumb enuff to invest 25y into baking with him, but... own life's work
asciilifeform: it is interesting to consider diff b/w esr and linus. esr judased a thing he had 0 part in baking, and wanked for 20y on the periphery of. linus on oher hand merrily fucked not only the folx who were dumb enuff to invest 25y into baking with him, but... own life's work ☟︎
asciilifeform: and, first auditioner, apparently, none other than old judas esr :
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-09#1848896 << btw reading the title i cannot help but think of later esr's 'surprised by wealth' lulgem ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( i suspect they all ended up like esr, but naturally have no way to know )
asciilifeform: so esr tank runs dry in 15 y instead of 5, big fat diff, neh
asciilifeform: re 'surprised by wealth folx', asciilifeform was somewhat astonished to discover that esr's infamous 'open sores ups project' features not a 'make own heavy industrial ups to run for 3 days' but instead... clone of one of those laughably miniature things they sell at konsoomer kompooter shops, 'run for 3min so you can shitdown'
a111: Logged on 2015-09-07 12:55 punkman: then http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth >> and now http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6835
asciilifeform: and esr. etc
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-06#1765888 << fughet, for the final time, 'bazaar', esr ain't here, and aint' gonna be here. and it is wrong to use the whip used for esr, on actual people. until you grasp this, your universe will not contain actual people. to unsheath the esr whip here is a fundamentally solipsistic act. ☝︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathendom, http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7724#comment-1912925
asciilifeform: esr. ( for fyootoor log searchers pulling their hair out )
BingoBoingo: Your surprise was just timing, esr's surprise was the wealth
mircea_popescu: incidentally, do we agree that o'reilly pushing esr idiocy ("bazaar") is responsible for 2001 bubble in the same way aol is responsible for 1993 and lehman for 2007 ?
phf: https://web.archive.org/web/20030424100429/http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/
phf: mircea_popescu: it's also possible that he's referring to the original publication of esr's essay, that predated the book by couple of years
asciilifeform: ( granted esr tried to spin it in opposite direction, misleading the easily mislead )
asciilifeform: the pre-esr 'jargonfile' was not halfbad
asciilifeform: but no, sofa does not enter discussion of morals other than in re 'the thirty pieces of silver, were in fact troo silver', evidently some quislings are paid handsomely, rather than left to flap on the wind esr-style
mircea_popescu: assistence went "you don't remember esr ?" and i went "what would i remember him for ?" and they went "is this a bit ?"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-08#1722595 << esr ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: says the bright young fella who after $millions of payola (i'ma carry on supposing that it was from judasing for usg, esr-style, unless proven otherwise) and decade+ , produced: ___?___
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 00:40 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: briefly revisiting http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706495 : i'm beginning to wonder if it was simply because of WHO asked. i can't really blame $chix for not relishing the prospect of kanzure et al riding her l337 w4r4z to stolen relevancy esr-style
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: briefly revisiting http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706495 : i'm beginning to wonder if it was simply because of WHO asked. i can't really blame $chix for not relishing the prospect of kanzure et al riding her l337 w4r4z to stolen relevancy esr-style ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: bbbbut d00d is rich !!1 ( question invites itself : what idjit's fortune did he inherit ? or esr-rich ) bbbut d00d works on immortality pills of cosmic significance and reads 400 pdfs per week!1 while dump old asciilifeform spent 3 months proving that multiplier works
asciilifeform: every time you sit down and fight a month-long rear guard battle just to keep your box ~usable -- thank esr & co.
asciilifeform: point re esr, is that he agreed to work as an ideological judas goat to counter rms
asciilifeform: today esr begs for spare change.
asciilifeform: esr , recall , also was 'well-paid' quisling,
mircea_popescu: i dunno how you managed to miss the esr poverty discussion and the debian dork murder and the devil's leaves metaphore and everything else.
asciilifeform: from my perch, carmack is an esr -- he was enriched in fiatola by praying to 'intellectual property' molloch, and now what molloch gave, he taketh away.
mircea_popescu: anyways, to round off the whole linux/bsd, esr/rms/etc angle : at any point the Moterhood (be it implemented in practice as "the USG" or "the public opinion" or "the church of England" or whatever the fuck - there will exist a conclave of the lazy, stupid and covetous, and it will be somewhat politically influential and appear VERY politically influential much like to the small children the mother appears truly awesome in her
mircea_popescu: and in lulzy ancient stuff : http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2005/06/30/esr_interview.html interviewer (random nobody) contrasts sony using netbsd for the psp and people finding out because they put an unlinked text file on their website (as per license obligation) which was then found whereas they advertised the shit out of running linux for the ps3 in the terms of "WE THE PEOPLE made this be".
asciilifeform: it's moar about esr's approach to life than about gpl3.
asciilifeform: http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/gpl-sucker-punch << oblig re esr.
asciilifeform: the lulzy bit re esr is that he appointed himself 'elder' in 1980s! of an atlantis that had by that time long ago sunk deep beneath the sea (mit)
mircea_popescu: o hey, esr redefines nigger as "political carpetbagger". dork, to redefine word must use shorter variant. no longer alternative ever prevails in practice.
mircea_popescu: certainly not the esr and other usg tools.
asciilifeform: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6758#comment-1795041 << a winner.
asciilifeform: (esr, mega-specialist in 'half-grasping' concepts, does not disappoint)
asciilifeform: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6758 << in quite other lulz.
asciilifeform: what was the thing of esr?
mircea_popescu: but at the risk of repeating myself, here it is again : esr, fabled luminary of the "blabla programming style" failed to get his thing done in a week. mp, fabled terrorist, managed to get his thing done in a week.
mircea_popescu: i find it quite amusing that esr tried to do ~exactly what i just did, except with much more rudimentary tools and with much less interesting results. idiots living among idiots ALSO has a cost eh.
asciilifeform: elsewhere, http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7294 << shitlang lulz ( via jurov )
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 18:24 Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598383 << reminds me of how i first chanced upon lisp. i was eighteen, more pretentious than now, and had eaten my first hashcake half an hour ago. i was reading esr, jumped to topic of lisp and homoiconicity, and was like... d0000d. this is how you penetrate the universe. knowwhatimsayin.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598383 << reminds me of how i first chanced upon lisp. i was eighteen, more pretentious than now, and had eaten my first hashcake half an hour ago. i was reading esr, jumped to topic of lisp and homoiconicity, and was like... d0000d. this is how you penetrate the universe. knowwhatimsayin. ☝︎☟︎
a111: 117 results for "esr", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=esr
asciilifeform: !#s esr
asciilifeform: iirc cuban had airplanes etc. esr -- i no longer would bet even has working auto.
mircea_popescu: branson iirc lived in some island ; and cuban i have nfi, but he's worth ~same as esr.
asciilifeform: afaik mcafee long ago lost ~all of his money. hence operating in esr mode now.
asciilifeform: esr hallucinated 'microshit is evil because monarchic'
asciilifeform: esr's 'cathedral' is an imbecilic indictment of führerprinzip ;
asciilifeform: iirc esr's referred to microshit
asciilifeform: mr mold was quite specific about which 'cathedral', 0 to do with esr's.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-04 02:17 asciilifeform: kid was cursed, at very young age, with being 'esr rich'
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/asscience/#selection-193.73-197.16 << esr rich.
adlai: what is 'esr rich', though?
adlai: yeah i know who esr is
asciilifeform: #!s esr
adlai: sorry for reappearing so soon after "bbl", but - what does 'esr rich' mean? i struggled not-too-longago with a friend telling me "oh yes, that's shit that 'people with money' have in their house" (over random crap my idiot dad had), so... pray, what is "esr rich"?
asciilifeform: kid was cursed, at very young age, with being 'esr rich' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: there's the regular idiots who think themselves "rich", esr style.
asciilifeform: straight from esr's 'open sores' playbook.
asciilifeform: esr was idiot quisling paid in devil's-gold-turns-to-leaves. possibly butler - also.
a111: 82 results for "esr", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=esr
mircea_popescu: $s esr
asciilifeform: esr?
a111: Logged on 2015-09-07 12:55 punkman: then http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth >> and now http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6835
a111: Logged on 2015-09-07 12:55 punkman: then http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth >> and now http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6835
asciilifeform: how much damage could a suddenly 'cured' esr do ?
asciilifeform: my point being that the actual amount of 'polit reliability' asked of the esr folk is minimal.
asciilifeform: i see more quisling than lobotomy victim re esr et al
a111: Logged on 2015-09-07 12:55 punkman: then http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth >> and now http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6835
phf: http://www.catb.org/~esr/graphics/raymond007-5.jpg
phf: esr is the guy who's into guns
asciilifeform: esr is not afaik a boat man.