mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you can actually also change the dialogs skin the same way, the character models, the skybox / ground, pretty much everything whatsoever.
Framedragger: ^ good reminder why any trust on 'origin ip' is moot eh!
mircea_popescu: Framedragger sane designs (such as you know, mpex has been displaying since 2012 say) do not even care as to what ip.
Framedragger: whatever my gripes with teh mp-way, /me been personal fan of mpex design and opsec since day 1 ;)
scriba: Logged on 2017-05-01: [02:11:19] <mircea_popescu> Framedragger btw you gonna re-do the scan for 2017 ?
mircea_popescu: that way you'll end up with your blog linked by random idiots with delusions of grandeur in the future, exactly like it happened in the past.
mircea_popescu: guy bemoans lack of lisp style tagged data in today's world of shit ; refuses WITH THE CUTTING OF THE HEAD to structure and tag anything no matter what. wtf is wrong with you.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger worx. not like the other batch is fully digested yet anyway.
shinohai: joo (and meself) back online .... sry for inconvenience
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ben_vulpes: spacex reentry photography kindles me cockles
ben_vulpes: tight crop on the engines in flight, apparently from other flying craft
mircea_popescu: "It is unfortunate that what was once a promising game with many contributors in the community has turned into a scam, but such as it is."
shinohai: No one could have predicted, ammirite?
mircea_popescu: "oh, there's a game that actually works, run by the only guy who actually has money or understands business in this cloud of idiots. tell you what -- we'll pretend to be offended at "fuckgoats" and stick with some utter derpitude run by a mentally ill runt. then a year or two years or whatever later we'll go ... "unfortunately" and act like no one could have fucking predicted".
mircea_popescu: and then when i want them boiled in oil i'm supposed to give explanations or something ? hurr.
mircea_popescu: shinohai ^ post that in there, at least when i get to boil them in oil right and proper they get to hurr durr at the fact that they ~actually had the text before their eyes~
mircea_popescu: exactly like the braindead strippers who wouldn't pick up a bitcoin for free because hey, "professional" and whatnot.
shinohai goes to the swamp to revel in lulz
shinohai: Should I invite him here to bare tits for 2 bittys?
mircea_popescu: this nonsensical pretense that there's somehow "choice" and "people have it" gotta be the #1 driver of the socialist empire of idiots.
mircea_popescu: what fucking choice! THIS is the choice. what choice was it ?
jurov: The short version is that every Intel platform with AMT, ISM, and SBT from Nehalem in 2008 to Kaby Lake in 2017 has a remotely exploitable security hole in the ME (Management Engine) not CPU firmware.
mircea_popescu: and the idiots "begged intel to fix it for years" and never said a peep.
mircea_popescu: "First a little bit of background. SemiAccurate has known about this vulnerability for literally years now, it came up in research we were doing on hardware backdoors over five years ago. What we found was scary on a level that literally kept us up at night. For obvious reasons we couldn’t publish what we found out but we took every opportunity to beg anyone who could even tangentially influence the right people to do somet
Framedragger: olook the backdoor is an actual backdoor! good call on opteron asciilifeform :)
mircea_popescu: "oh, i'm too fucking good to send some opterons to be racked and btw we begged for less cock. or more. or something, anyway FOR LITERALLY YEARS!!11"
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i'll mention one thing tho: you cited "$10k+ / year" figures and all that, but just ftr i don't believe the actual *profit margin* (vs. revenue) would be decent. that said, this should of course be researched.
mircea_popescu: is it from the experience of being a businessman, or is it from the experience of being a cocksucker, begging this and that, like the schmuck i just negrated ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform same argument could be made re mp's bitcoins, mp's slavegirls, mp's anythings yes ? how much would a girl properly trained sell for, seeing how the fucking shah of brunei can't, apparently, find one, and not for lack of trying ? subquestion : what THE FUCK is "respectable" supposed to mean in a world where apparently mp is the only one who has shit and everyone else will resist getting ~~~~~~ANY~~~~~ shit whatso
mircea_popescu: respectable profit in what sense, i'll trade my time for fiatollars and then what ?
shinohai still wants one of mircea_popescu 's thinkpads from back in the day ....
mircea_popescu: fwiw, 6274 for instance still on amazon at 800 bux or so.
Framedragger: btw, if anyone is considering doing the isp thing, one of the potential providers which offers colo is
https://pinspb.ru/ (doesn't look serious i know, but after some research it turns out to have close ties to 2x4.ru, and that's not a bad sign.)
Framedragger: ^ can purchase ip blocks via 'em, too, for good price; etc.
Framedragger recalls using some 'virtual gold' 'incorporated in panama' company currency to trade goods. sustainable? no. can make it werk for specific trades? can do!
mircea_popescu: ~any isp will open you a wire channel if you're paying them substantially. pay them quarterly, it'll be substantial enough.
mircea_popescu: so then. you want to use the wire system whenever you can anyway.
Framedragger: yepyep. i must say that i had not dealt with them directly, ever. but it came up in my 'ok so what actual non-nato providers/DCs could i use?'
mircea_popescu: russia is not without its own problems but having a dc there is certainly a sound plan.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: yeah, but they don't offer colo, at least upon initial glance. can send query, of course. but may as well deal with their upstream DCs
Framedragger: (iirc pinspb hosts, or is related to 2x4 dns boxes. would need to dig up)
Framedragger: some providers may agree to attach usb devices. iirc (possibly) leaseweb. (based in .nl, i know, but they also fought some 'give us yer customers' cases iirc)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i said cherryservers (ex balticservers) didn't want to.
Framedragger: cherryservers do seem nice but their nato affiliation is over 9000 hah
mircea_popescu: i don't get what the problem with colocating boxes is supposed to be. pro tip : every box in every rack in every datacenter on planet earth WAS COLOCATED THERE.
mircea_popescu: this is like a discussion of dairy attempting to avoid cows.
mircea_popescu: "oh but they moo" "so what the fuck if they do." "it's scary!" "dude..."
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: what do you mean, do you mean resistance against colocating?
mircea_popescu: i mean of course you'll colocate boxes, this is what you do. isp places his boxes in a datacenter, it's the job description.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wasn't some dc, was named and renamed above!
mircea_popescu: it was an isp. one that on the price front is pretty cool but on the service front sucks.
Framedragger: maybe a matter of renting rack unit vs rack vs cage
Framedragger: could it be legitimate concern of space in their cramped cages that they are worrying about? (i know, naive interpretation)
mircea_popescu: which, to resolve ~that~ problem, alone eats plenty of yearly thousands of dollars. it alone, the loss leader of one of the projects etc.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger or they have a 3 ring binder, or whatever the fuck. why should i debug their process when instead i could debug yours.
Framedragger posts ad, "need slavegirls, for mopping -- my backlog"
Framedragger: curious, what is phuctor's cpu? xeon e5-4620? v2/v3/v4?
Framedragger: summary of short chat with cherryservers (hey can't hurt): they used to offer colo but do no more (hmh); they "may" consider attaching "arduino-sized" (my description) hardware device, will report back tomorrow after consulting with technicians when they are in.
Framedragger: (sorry for low-level noise, just for posterity.)
mircea_popescu: shinohai so basically this is the monero unraveling / going away party or what.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: yeah apparently. but gotta start somewhere. and yeh i understand that shit's different *again* since then
Framedragger: amd "kinda said" they may release full src for coreboot et al., but obvs no dice yet
Framedragger: access to main memory, access to *network* (complete bypass of cpu), yeahyeah... amazing
Framedragger: asciilifeform: no, but the src of the separate kernel at the very least. "gotta start somewhere", again. but yeah i know, sisyphus much
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: machine doesn't boot if you do, it's for enterprise security you understand
Framedragger: (at least in intel ME, from slides i infer that if it doesn't detect the "ME firmware part in BIOS flash", it doesn't even turn on?)
mircea_popescu: and all this happened because well, the dorks that were supposed to stand up against it were jwzing.
mircea_popescu: then they wanna go around pretending like fucking goats is somehow obscene. had they fucked goats instead they'd be quite a lot more respectable.
mircea_popescu: this company will not buy anything with that crap. nor can it -- if it tried everyone'd just leave anyway.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck do smart people stand up agaionst the empire of stupid ? BY NOT BEING PART OF IT. hurr.
mircea_popescu: count for 100% just as soon as they stop telling themselves the 0% story to get to the slop like the rest of the pigs.
☟︎ Framedragger: amd dropped coreboot support in (iirc) 2013 *because* it deemed it not profitable. impact to business probably ~0.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: that's the more dramatic take on it; the other one is "most of linux powerusers are dirt poor, and there aren't many of them [and the companies which *run* on linux do not count as part of the former group.]"
Framedragger: they just use linux and do not give a fuck about getting fucked in ass if money keeps flowing in. money from business and customers who *are not* high-principled powerusers
mircea_popescu: Framedragger and why are they capable of hiring anything but sheilas ?
Framedragger: anyway, i don't see much outrage in regards to intel ME outside of tmsr et al.
Framedragger: yes but this is a bit circular, one of those "prove P: if tmsr, then P; ergo, P"
mircea_popescu: hey, i actually tend to take time out of my day and examine candidates.
mircea_popescu: somehow the examination comes out the same fucking way all the time.
mircea_popescu: either "momentary lapse into lucidity" by dubious author with VERY clenched teeth, usually decade+ old ; or else cat-v/##crypto/tardstalk/reddit/tedx/etcetera.
mircea_popescu: the prototype of the former being of course naggum, who would have some rather pointed questions to answer hadn't he taken the easy way out. most of the rest aren't quite that hard stuff, live a life of living death instead, cowering in their basement from tmsr emails etc.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: there is that. point is, world is ~sheep (when approximated/rounded), they have fiatbux/lifedebtbux, they don't care about these things, intel's profits come at scale, hence investing into "decent tech" is not business-viable. is all i'm sayin'.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the point you elide is that all that fiatola "money" is not actually anything.
Framedragger checks, can't yet pay for utilities with non-fiat
mircea_popescu: i dunno how you managed to miss the esr poverty discussion and the debian dork murder and the devil's leaves metaphore and everything else.
mircea_popescu: consider : even if i somehow decided to sell a girl, there exists no one who can meaningfully pay for her. what "money" ?
mircea_popescu: "count for 100% just as soon as they stop telling themselves the 0% story to get to the slop like the rest of the pigs."
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: alright, more than that: i place higher odds of usd surviving in 2050 if put against btc surviving in 2050. why: a very primitive "age of existence" heuristic. and, i don't trust EC crypto, like, you know, no-one here does. so not willing to put retirement savings into btc. it adds up, utilities, retirement.
mircea_popescu: saving in usd, though. for retirement. this gotta take the cake.
Framedragger: (just to be clear, this is another is/ought, i was doing the "is" (imho) part ^, not "ought", of course)
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: didn't you demonstrate that lookup could be got down to o(1)?
Framedragger: (also, by 'usd' meant a portfolio of different fiats)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger tell you what, review what your grandparents earned in usd when they were your age, figure out how well they'd live on it today.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "different fiats". the chinese made a usd-counerparty-fiat just for the purpose of insulating usg from their economy.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: 'If your system is 10 years old or newer it is likely exploitable' << 2009opteron4evah!111 << /me pats 'harpertown' and 'woodcrest' boxes on head. searches classifieds for backups.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: right, insane inflation. counterpoint "it's all about timing and location" anecdote (purely for entertainment): dad worked in chocolate factory in u.s. back in ~1991, for 2-3mo.; went home with ~ $1k, bought car and flat. ppp!
mircea_popescu: that the braindead fiat of the local socialists was going to outlive the at-the-time republic-of-smart-people currency ?
Framedragger: but yes, saving over multiple decades, different thing *entirely*, of course of course.
mircea_popescu: yes dude, and some kid worked in bitcoin, bought wife and girlfriend.
mircea_popescu: "framedragger's dad hjad the sense to leave shitistan, worked for dollars in 1991, came back with 1k bought flat, spawned kid, who is too dumb to leave shitistan and work for bitcoin, make 1k, perpetuate the cycle"
mircea_popescu: is the idea that the family line ends with you or what is this anecdote about ?
trinque: I dunno how a kid from .lt thinks whichever govt is everlasting; even the last two cocks that fucked them in the ass withered
mircea_popescu: well, "the made-1k-realpeoplecurrency-bought flat and cheap hooker in socialistan" anecdote has naught to do with "saving"
Framedragger: pete_dushenski: curious how much they'd quote for 256 GB ECC ram :) (phuctor)
mircea_popescu: i'm actually thinking of standing up a similar box for eulora.
mircea_popescu: eh, better to overprovision than to underprovision these things. but no, not yet.
mircea_popescu: which is why i'm in no terrible hurry ; trying to spawn actual alternative first etc.
mircea_popescu: i'd have bought in mossul had the idiots been a little less inept
pete_dushenski: ok so russia, china, and moslem middle east / mediterranean ?
Framedragger: unfortunately northern syria (rojava) uses internet via turkish radio towers (checked / had chat with them once). that'd be an interesting location (kurdish autonomous region; i mean, while it lasts....)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i dun right off know i'd have a problem with turkey.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: lol if people want boxes racked in the heart of the empire i can do it for 100/mo for a 2U
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: they have massive firewall, blocking at will. could be not a problem, depending on business case of customers of course. and i guess the counter would be "everyone does"
mircea_popescu: the fact that they're blocking the usg tendrils scarcely argues against them.
Framedragger finds any "blocking" to be retarded on a fundamental level
mircea_popescu: (no, wikipedia has nothing to do wirth anything BUT usg propaganda.)
Framedragger: we block idiot "write access", so to speak. not blacklisting IPs in logotrons (yet!)
mircea_popescu: so explain this to me. yesterday i was in ##crypto. after a while i... left. this has the blessed effect that the inept idiocies spewed by some immature dickheads no longer befoul my timeline. turkey allowed wikipedia. then after a while it turned it off. this has the blessed effect thjat immature dickheads no longer befoul its timeline.
mircea_popescu: and don't tell me "that people themselves should be able to choose". people themselves are morons, will gladly "choose" frozen tacos if given that "choice".
Framedragger: i admit that i still have this notion of "global internet" in my mind, as a +ev thing.
Framedragger: so the disagreement stems from that (naive) premise. other parts of reasoning i cannot disagree with, of course.
Framedragger: i use wikipedia for quick lookup of $topic sometimes; i also use it as "collection of references to other places" thing. is this fundamentally toxic? maybe.
mircea_popescu: it is fundamentally toxic, yes. this is how you ended up with so many "naive premise can't disagree with other partrs" etc.
mircea_popescu: just like it doesn't really matter what specifically you watch on tv, it's still turning you into a single fat middle aged woman.
mircea_popescu: the lulz of all fucking time, a grand bought his father a new life 25 years ago ; i just did the household accounting, my petty cash line is a shade over $8`000. that excludes rents like it excludes isp bills or agents on a mission or anything else worth the fucking mention. a grand would buy me half a week's worth of groceries, taking a girl out or buying her some random dress we saw in the window so she comes out of the sho
☟︎ mircea_popescu: if a million dollars buys you a decent meal in another 25 years you should count yourself lucky, and that's only 2042, 8 more to go to 2050.
Framedragger: i suppose the alternative is not necessarily "buy up bitcoin" (somehow stuck in mind), but invest in business (and possibly (non-nato, or w/e) real estate). (not against my current plans, just, can't do all at once (yet))
mircea_popescu: yes. the alternative to not being a creature of this world is BEING a creature of this world.
mircea_popescu: nobody said you gotta be a figment of some redditard's imagination, now did they.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "saving" as alf referenced previous discussion because this "saving" is fundamentally and at its core an anti-concept. "how to be powerless while retaining power". nigga, wut ?
shinohai: "Does Eulora accept Monero?" lmfao
shinohai should start brokering shitcoin for ecu at a btc 2:1 ratio
mircea_popescu: take whatever shitcoins at whatever margin, legitimate biz.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: in theory, any objections to a dc located in india ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in bed, bath and beyonder, ttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009407.msg11522596#msg11522596
Framedragger: "I can vouch for iluvbitcoins. I haven't dealt with him but I have a spoken to him a few times a while back." what
Framedragger: "we have very different notions of 'vouch' in our minds, friendo"
Framedragger: *actually*, one needs to ask their hosting providers if AMT is enabled (BIOS setting), wouldn't hurt
Framedragger: ('provisioning' (see link) is (i think) a separate thing.)
mircea_popescu: eh, they'll be happily churning along years from now. just look at the debian keys or openssh horrors etc.
Framedragger: funny: if one were to follow intel's route of patching firmware, as regards say x220s, lenovo gives update in the form of windows executables
☟︎ Framedragger: re 'years from now', guess so, can't see why not. fun exploit times! (but seriously, opened ticket at $provider to query about a xeon cpu)
Framedragger: "tl;dr: OVH had an issue where your second network card was connected to other servers in the datacenter. This allowed you to run a DHCP server and offer a gateway. This also allows you to MITM several machines outbound traffic, I had 35 machines responding back with DHCP Leases and about 4 routing outbound traffic to me as their router."
mircea_popescu: trinque there's a vulnerability in how deedbot handles registrations in that even with nick enforcing on, one has enough time before chanserv kicks him off (2-3 seconds ?) to shoot a reg string at deedbot and get the name registered to his key.
Framedragger: (-NickServ- You have 30 seconds to identify to your nickname before it is changed.)
trinque: mircea_popescu: idea being to require people to be auth'd to nickserv first?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: what does that accomplish? !!v to show that key i'm registering is indeed owned by me?
mircea_popescu: i guess this is one of those, "pretend like your name reg is worth something without deedbot at your own peril" impedance mismatches not really worth fixing.
Framedragger: almost as if the thing would need to wait and then send a challenge to that same nick, but this is kinda promisetronic i guess.
trinque: yeah, sorta tape over "we don't own the ircd"
mircea_popescu: Framedragger yeah, not sure how much work i want expended to support nickserv's fiatista notions of dns.
mircea_popescu: trinque more like, yet another case of bad dns implemented ad-hoc by pretenders.