tmsr - Log 2017-02-03

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-02#1610920 << was good enough for stalin, should be good enough for you! ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-02 05:54 phf: simple, cat /dev/mem > /dev/printer, and then make slave girls go over the result with pen until "get me all peers"

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-02#1611044 << simply participating in the us masquerade of justice by this point is tantamount to "asking for it". ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-02 22:13 ben_vulpes: poor john carmack, thought juries could be reasoned with and that "expert witnesses" wouldn't lie through their teeth for a check: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/3jI4f/?raw=true

BingoBoingo: Anyways, the alf dream hits an important point. Lords of TMSR are not mere terrorists, but supervillains complete with arcane artifacts (80's computers, etc) and powers (math, etc).

mircea_popescu: just send the judge a letter explaining that he's not qualified to answer any question, including what he wants for breakfast and invite him to stfu or else.

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/8DF2E18D0C26DDCE2F47DFC7AEDC8BDE39C38794CD60B94AB37DE1B4CFA6565F << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1714...9277 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '81.27.116.50 (ssh-rsa key from 81.27.116.50 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (crackstorm.doubleslash.de. DE)

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/8DF2E18D0C26DDCE2F47DFC7AEDC8BDE39C38794CD60B94AB37DE1B4CFA6565F << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1432...4363 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '81.27.116.50 (ssh-rsa key from 81.27.116.50 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (crackstorm.doubleslash.de. DE)

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/50FEDE5625EDC5286F7ACD22CB7B6C552AD6C6A6BAEF961E87F7288F4E56EC97 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1676...1017 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '90.149.253.240 (ssh-rsa key from 90.149.253.240 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (240.90-149-253.nextgentel.com. NO 07)

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/50FEDE5625EDC5286F7ACD22CB7B6C552AD6C6A6BAEF961E87F7288F4E56EC97 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1479...6287 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '90.149.253.240 (ssh-rsa key from 90.149.253.240 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (240.90-149-253.nextgentel.com. NO 07)

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/50FC577424CDBD521EA1F5AC76C68FD32843768EAB41839FD34487EC0599693C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1756...3947 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '83.18.234.42 (ssh-rsa key from 83.18.234.42 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (bxa42.internetdsl.tpnet.pl. PL)

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/50FC577424CDBD521EA1F5AC76C68FD32843768EAB41839FD34487EC0599693C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1452...0319 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '83.18.234.42 (ssh-rsa key from 83.18.234.42 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (bxa42.internetdsl.tpnet.pl. PL)

phf: re stalin, explaining to american progressives that stalin was georgian, "ethnically diverse", spoke with heavy georgian accent, etc. creates a lot of confusion

phf went through that exercise recently. one of the guys went checking wikipedia (of course) etc.

mircea_popescu: amusingly there was some unspoken subtext of "diversity" back in the days right around lenin's final sickness.

mircea_popescu: to trotsky's hillaric linton let's say. for the sake of forcing history into the exceedingly narrow figures available to the ustard.

a111: 1 result for "\"99% are strong\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%2299%25%20are%20strong%22

phf: parents obviously remember "friend of steppe's kalmyk" soviet agenda, and the affirmative action that came with it

mircea_popescu: i dun think mine ever had a clue re. actually, i doubt if 1 in 3 ru parents remember, leat 2017.

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F72063A1556309B31F0BBC8708C1F87252A1C0151C6A4E768F4A66A1196F9FCA << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1383...7347 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '122.154.3.250 (ssh-rsa key from 122.154.3.250 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown TH 11)

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F72063A1556309B31F0BBC8708C1F87252A1C0151C6A4E768F4A66A1196F9FCA << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1630...4897 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '122.154.3.250 (ssh-rsa key from 122.154.3.250 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown TH 11)

phf: moscow universities had explicit quotas for the applicants from the -stans, but it was probably not as obvious elsewhere

phf: my mom had one of those "papa escaped the purges by burning all paperwork but life got tough when they took our governess" piano teachers, who would lament about being forced to teach peasants and brown folk, not on racial grounds as much as "you have to have a bidet in your house for 3 generations, before you can touch a piano" ☟︎☟︎☟︎

phf: unrelatedly i was wondering if gpg passwords are promisetronic. how do they even work? there's some symmetric encryption scheme used to encrypt the privkey, or can passwords be somehow integrated into rsa scheme?

phf: it's a combination of passphrase mangling (by default sha-1) to derive the key, and symmetric algorithm (be default aes-128) to encrypt the privkey. i don't think we had any discussion about this.. ☟︎

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DC5CBBBAC7C7334F34094822869BB06086D975653C6285708194CDE261E63882 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1682...6133 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '151.182.35.107 (ssh-rsa key from 151.182.35.107 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (151-182-35-107.red-acceso.airtel.net. ES MD M)

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DC5CBBBAC7C7334F34094822869BB06086D975653C6285708194CDE261E63882 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1768...3823 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '151.182.35.107 (ssh-rsa key from 151.182.35.107 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (151-182-35-107.red-acceso.airtel.net. ES MD M)

mircea_popescu: phf they're pretty shitty. tmsr pgp should prolly use a better scheme ☟︎

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: $bzprtnr wants to know how to wholly replace /dev/urandom with $entropyfile to make gpg key with all speshul bits ☟︎

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jhvh1: shinohai: Time since last block: 1 minute and 47 seconds

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611084 << it is approximately as useful as trb's wallet encrypter, and for the same reason ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 05:46 phf: it's a combination of passphrase mangling (by default sha-1) to derive the key, and symmetric algorithm (be default aes-128) to encrypt the privkey. i don't think we had any discussion about this..

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611087 << there is no fundamentally better scheme, because the task as traditionally posed is braindamaged. as discussed in the old trilema re hdd crypto. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 06:10 mircea_popescu: phf they're pretty shitty. tmsr pgp should prolly use a better scheme

asciilifeform: (if password is entered into the same machine as where the key is stored, a patient enemy simply has to remotely listen for a while, rather than walking away with machine like illiterate orc police)

asciilifeform: but yes phf any system where you enter a pw and it 'doesn't store' is promisetronic (can you see with your own eyes that it 'doesn't store' ? really?)

mircea_popescu: in other news from the lands of the retards, it is now impossible in argentina to buy normal male underwear. all they have on sale, ANYWHERE (because yes it's 10mn strong, but no there's no five distinct shops, just 10k clones of the same one) is male stripper underwear. because hey, faggots won the culture war or some dumb shit. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i suppose i should actually be doing this, accost young men, go "hey, you're a little bitch faggot, aren't you ? do you know what we do to little bitch faggots ?" while waving machete around.

mircea_popescu: then have him drop his pants to check, and cut off his penis once the inevitable COLORED ; WEIRD pair of GIRL panties shows up.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611088 << there is not a simple and hygienic way of doing this on linux ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 06:44 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: $bzprtnr wants to know how to wholly replace /dev/urandom with $entropyfile to make gpg key with all speshul bits

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611095 << this is not actually true. trb wallet encryptor is pretty strong. not ideal, but there's no actual cause of worry if you lose an encrypted bitcoi nwallet (still, doesn't encrypt metadata, has many other warts discussed in http://trilema.com/2016/the-ideal-bitcoin-wallet/ ) ; i wouldn't say same re gpg keyring. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 15:26 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611084 << it is approximately as useful as trb's wallet encrypter, and for the same reason

deedbot: pete_dushenski voiced for 30 minutes.

deedbot: peterl voiced for 30 minutes.

a111: Logged on 2017-02-02 17:39 mircea_popescu: oh and for the aspiring statisticians, here's a question : given that there's 40 different trilema headers, and one's picked each day randomly, how many days needs one visit trilema in order to have better than 50% chances of having seen all of them ?

PeterL: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/afLAT/?raw=true << and I wrote a function in python that is just a tad more general

PeterL: (actually, first I solved it in excel, then I thought it would have been simpler to write a python function, so I did that )

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski what happens when k = n+1, do your fractions become overnumerary ?

mircea_popescu: PeterL what happens when k = n+1, do your fractions become overnumerary ?

mircea_popescu: in which we find python uses () incorrectly : it's inclusive on the bottom and exclusive on the top ? shouldn't it be [) then ?

mircea_popescu: but anyway, PeterL , in fair trade : do you know what a poisson distribution is ?

mircea_popescu: poisson was actually a doctor, and clasically his thing is applied to the question "if on average the er sees six patients a day, what are the odds of it seeing 74 this monday morning"

jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611101 << more than one lady friend has lamented that the gays took over female fashion too. sexual ideal is a teenage boy? mkay ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 15:41 mircea_popescu: in other news from the lands of the retards, it is now impossible in argentina to buy normal male underwear. all they have on sale, ANYWHERE (because yes it's 10mn strong, but no there's no five distinct shops, just 10k clones of the same one) is male stripper underwear. because hey, faggots won the culture war or some dumb shit.

mircea_popescu: i am unsure about that part ; left to their own devices female gender expression is what you see in 1970s pornos.

mircea_popescu: shinohai remarkable how many craws teh satoshi manages to stick into huh.

shinohai: Oh wait, seems this was published roughly 8 months ago ... but had not heard him speak this retardation.

mircea_popescu: one year seems a reasonable polling interval considering the relative importance of the object.

asciilifeform: ( same crackpottery as in my old http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1009 ? or something else..? )

shinohai: http://archive.is/KJFeJ <<< Source is a VERified outlet, so take it with a few spoons of salt

asciilifeform: '...there is a possibility that security researchers will be able to break ECDSA-protected bitcoin addresses in the future. If this were to happen, they could gain access to the coins belonging to Satoshi Nakamoto, and dump them on the market...' << why does it follow that 'let's dekulakize satoshi' but not someone else?

asciilifeform: 'One softfork, which would activate ASAP, would assign an OP_NOP to OP_LAMPORT (or whatever QC-resistant crypto will be used). Everyone would be urged to send all of their bitcoins to new OP_LAMPORT-protected addresses.' << lel, did d00d learn of lamport's sig algo from pediwikia, or wat

asciilifeform: https://archive.is/6kZ5a (via subj) << apparently this nonsense never entirely dies

mircea_popescu: ~same as an island full of monkeys going "and if the spanyards come and burn down all our houses ? WE MUST BUILD SPANYARD PROOF HOUSES"

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the only possible follow to the idiocy is, of course, the usg declaring that it HAS!11 qc, and the ustards also believing.

mircea_popescu: if it worked with the "sorry we didn't know it was invisible", then why not quantum something

asciilifeform: well normally it works like stage magic, 'looksee, we broke! rabbit from hat' 'oh noe we didn't put the rabbit in beforehand'

mircea_popescu: i dunno ; the "two weeks to take mosul" worked even better than that.

asciilifeform: wasn't that after the 'vietnamization' of iraq ? (what they called the last handover-of-quagmire-to-aboriginals)

mircea_popescu: the only thing they handed over was a) own arsehole and b) pellets of dollar bills.

mircea_popescu: (nobody seems to remember, by the way, that the downing of the f117 "invisible" wasn't JUST THAT. the serbs had also CRACKED NATO CODES. the fucking serbs. there's barely enough of them to play football.)

asciilifeform: the one 'quantum comp' that is a reasonable possibility is the perpetuum mobile sort. where, e.g., a class of weak (i.e. cheaply breakable from birth, or from a few published signatures) rsa keys is discovered in the dungeons, and dressed up into a 'we haz magical rsa breaker box, go switch to $shitcrypto' ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://archive.is/EuvsR << in other lulz. 'Protesters storm NYU over conservative speaker’s seminar'

asciilifeform: 'The protest was apparently organized on Facebook, under the name “Disrupt Gavin McInnes at NYU.”'

asciilifeform: '“Come to Kimmel, Rosenthal Pavilion to let NYU know that we will not stand for bigotry, racism, homophobia, transphobia, misogyny on our campus,” the event page reads. “Gavin McInnes has a long track record of using incendiary language to attract media attention and frenzy…Most recently, in December 2016, Gavin McInnes launched an informal group called the Proud Boys, an “anti racial

asciilifeform: guilt,” anti-feminist organization. When NYC Antifa began to share information about members of the group with their employers (in many cases leading to job loss), McInnes urged the Proud Boys to attend an Antifa concert and ‘wreck the s–t’ of the ‘f–gots.'”' ☟︎

mircea_popescu: in other news * Your host is verne.freenode.net[185.30.166.37/8001], running version ircd-seven-1.1.4 is an utter piece of shit, disconnected me what, a dozen times past few days ?

a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 17:48 asciilifeform: guilt,” anti-feminist organization. When NYC Antifa began to share information about members of the group with their employers (in many cases leading to job loss), McInnes urged the Proud Boys to attend an Antifa concert and ‘wreck the s–t’ of the ‘f–gots.'”'

asciilifeform: 'I love how when you scrape away the “reality-based community” and “I fucking love science,” all you’re left with is “the Republic has no need of savants,” or possibly “please continue talking after I shove you in this locker.”'

mod6: <+jhvh1> shinohai: Time since last block: 1 minute and 47 seconds << I'm not sure who is the admin for this one off hand, but is there any opposition to adding the current block height on there along with the time? ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611054 << i'd be curious to read what a hypothetical 'nonparticipation' would look like -- carmack no-shows, judge awards default? carmack burns own factory, a la 1918 ? or which. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 01:13 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-02#1611044 << simply participating in the us masquerade of justice by this point is tantamount to "asking for it".

asciilifeform: as for the trial, the description reads quite like every other 'seekrit evidence' affair.

asciilifeform: with bonus dose of 'ooh we did not find everything we wanted, He Must Have Burned It'

asciilifeform: from my perch, carmack is an esr -- he was enriched in fiatola by praying to 'intellectual property' molloch, and now what molloch gave, he taketh away.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: carmack is not unlike kamenev and zinoviev -- a creature of the system that in the end devoured him

asciilifeform: the intentions of the folx sitting on top of said pile -- distant, secondary thing

asciilifeform: a fat balance in an 'international komyoonity'-compliant fiatola bank is quite like, e.g., fleet of winblows boxen, or iPnojes, etc. -- a golemtronic appendage of usg, rather than instrument of the supposed owner

asciilifeform: the latter plays the part of a draft horse -- housed and fed while he continues to do as he is told, otherwise, whipped, and if incorrigible, sent to butcher

asciilifeform: (or, in some cases, a pig -- raised for the table to begin with. i do not know enough re carmack to say which type of farm animal he was groomed as)

thestringpuller: or maybe carmack is man who couldn't control own monster he created and killed him

asciilifeform: ( and since mircea_popescu is asleep, i will quote my robopopescu, 'carmack should not have been in this position to begin with, should have been making rockets for hezbolla, instead of 3d goggles' )

ben_vulpes: i'm not the kind of guy who "just wants to keep making video games", so i'd never have stuck around in the first place.

ben_vulpes: even if carmack is still extracting the remainder of his golden handcuffs at facebook, does the penalty impact him terrifically, beyond the decline in asset value of fb stock?

asciilifeform: i've nfi. but would be surprised if he is not 'made example' of, to remind other carmacks that anal virginity can be sold ~once~

ben_vulpes: 'like' how? isn't the yc racket a straightforward "give us a large fraction of your eyeballcorp for a pittance and some quite likely useless advice"?

ben_vulpes: or did i miss out on yc making bank from all of the devs the rights to whose work they now own a fractional slice of

asciilifeform: exactly same. carmack et al sold id co. for $bagoffiatola. which they, quite likely, delusionally thought to be capable of buying such a thing as a defense against the new owner in case of arse claim.

ben_vulpes: huh turns out the individuals are on the hook for damages, i missed that on the first pass.

shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611199 <<< tis mine mod6, but that's a good idea. I haven't changed much of the historical gribble functionalities. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 19:08 mod6: <+jhvh1> shinohai: Time since last block: 1 minute and 47 seconds << I'm not sure who is the admin for this one off hand, but is there any opposition to adding the current block height on there along with the time?

shinohai: "We have prepared $100 million USD to kill the small fork of CoreCoin, no matter what POW algorithm, sha256 or scrypt or X11 or any other GPU algorithm. Show me your money" http://archive.is/gHLrS

asciilifeform: 'In any event, there would be no incentive to attack rather than earn the reward, but for a PoW fork of bitcoin, miners, who have invested hundreds of millions, if not more, in their hardware, would have a clear incentive to make the forkcoin inoperational.' << how does this work?

asciilifeform: (it can die at the hands of new miners, from disuse, from boredom -- but in no way from the efforts of traditional asic operators)

asciilifeform: While Krypton-Dev and I disagree on fundamental ideologies (Me: “America First”, He: “I trust China more than the US.”) I understand that they are paying him well and I wish him the best of luck.' << lel!

deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/02/tor-based-hosting-service-hacked/ << Qntra - Tor Based Hosting Service Hacked

asciilifeform: 'Swedish Deputy Prime Minister and Climate Minister Isabella Lövin appeared to mock the Trump administration with a photo of herself surrounded by women as she signs a climate law.'

shinohai: "To create a point of order against legislation that makes women sick again."

shinohai: We are currently working with law enforcement on our website. The violent hate-filled people who did this will be brought to justice."

ben_vulpes: "It's obvious that this put hundreds of thousands of people into a state of great discomfort," << discomfort lol

asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu you were right: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15939 << gcc is profoundly retarded