log☇︎
73 entries in 0.662s
asciilifeform: re philology i am less equipped to comment, but consider a typical philologic puzzler from 'science&life' in 1980s, from asciilifeform's own b00kcase -- here's a passage in $obscurelang (kazah, chukcha, chechen), here's defs of 6 words. nao answer these-here q's re the text...
asciilifeform: but realize that 'ooh, this barrel i found in the taiga is warm!' is how chukcha ends up sawing open rtg.
asciilifeform: chukcha incidentally very easily conceptualizes 'maybe the gods dun like me'. typically his problem is re the 'wat do'
asciilifeform: ameristan is misfortunate for lacking proper chukcha.
asciilifeform: chukcha is ~bottomless well of lulz
asciilifeform: chukcha shaman found radio.
asciilifeform: why aint there a chukcha chipset, btw.
asciilifeform: dead geologist in taiga , with working radio, is much farther from monkey than the live chukcha who found corpse.
asciilifeform: ugh raw chukcha
asciilifeform: it's a cost of specialization / finite hrs in the day. i suppose i could prolly become a middling-to-ok chukcha talker, instead of what i do nao, if comes to it. but i dun think i will ever be a champ, i dun have the decades of doing it, that other folx have.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform is not a+++ chukcha talker / polar explorer, this aint a seekrit, that crown goes to others.
asciilifeform: i also wonder if there's a 'chukcha and firewater' effect in play, possibly some folx have weak enzyme
asciilifeform: chukcha dun read anyffing else.
asciilifeform: i parse it as 100% chukcha 'sympathetic magic' -- 'eat heart of walrus, become great swimmer'
asciilifeform: ( then q would be, which miami is kanzure et al lured by. i propose 'upper miami', analogous to chukcha's 'upper tundra', i.e. valhalla )
asciilifeform: 'in my chukcha village we have flight also, shaman gives flight mushroom'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a handful of known 'elementary particles' of stupid, that aren't copies of one another (e.g. 'decenii de intelept cuvint!'-stupid, britney-stupid, goats-and-cousins-fucking desert-stupid , threadbare chukcha-stupid, ... ) but aside from that, yes, copies, how else
asciilifeform: 'where have you flown, chukcha?' 'every night i eat mushroom and fly to upper tundra'
asciilifeform: 'chukcha is pilot, here is airplane from walrus tusks and dried deer shit'
asciilifeform: in other archaeological holyfuqs, the wolfmen have ~ergative case~. like basque and chukcha.
asciilifeform: chukcha -- writer.
asciilifeform: chukcha is not reader.
asciilifeform: that'd require chukcha to be a reader !
asciilifeform: chukcha shaman is not lost soul because he wants to communicate over 100km distance, he's a lost soul because he hasn't heard of hertz or maxwell's or at all touched the relevant material
mircea_popescu: but not the broad strokes. much like chukcha confronted with car understands ~some~ things about it, but picture chukcha's blog describing cars.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 02:45 asciilifeform: 'chukcha wrote a book. we open the book: pg 1: 'man got on a horse.' pg . N : 'man got off horse' pg . 2 .. N-1 : 'tgdyk, tgdyk, tdgyk...' '
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-19#1815476 << what's wrong with http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=chukcha / http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=chuka / whatever (apparently i cnat spael). ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( 'chukcha computing' )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i suspect that 'chukcha is not a reader, he is a writer'
asciilifeform: it did not even occur to me that chukcha is a writer and not a reader, and has not used
asciilifeform: 'chukcha wrote a book. we open the book: pg 1: 'man got on a horse.' pg . N : 'man got off horse' pg . 2 .. N-1 : 'tgdyk, tgdyk, tdgyk...' ' ☟︎
asciilifeform: that's the q, are we looking at what amounts to a sov rtg misplaced in the arctic and sawed open by chukcha.
asciilifeform: apparently i'ma 'chukcha-reader, not writer'
asciilifeform: what 'rich' means muchly depends on locale. 'rich chukcha' has moar deer, i imagine. rich plantator -- moar ground. but there is not a habsburg house for him to live in, he cannot buy it any more than he could have bought a pdp-8
mircea_popescu: dja have the "why do chukcha go about in pairs ?" "they teach one to read and the other to write" one ?
asciilifeform: ( chukcha is offered a goodb00k. replies 'but thank you, old friend, i already own a book!'
mircea_popescu: one story for each chukcha.
asciilifeform: there is a chukcha story about this
asciilifeform: like chukcha and his geologist's flashlight
asciilifeform: discovery in the chukcha-discovers-rotgut sense.
asciilifeform: chukcha can also learn. problem is that somebody gotta separate him from the hole in the ground
asciilifeform: but at the same time, all known types of chukcha are happy to bow before ~other~ invisibles, e.g. deer spirit, or 'natural right of property', or whatever idiocy their mother pounded into the head
asciilifeform: the other observation is that the chukcha's reliance on his 'naked five senses' is absolute -- 'physical object' in his threadbare skullcase always trumps 'insisible' items, 'just number'
asciilifeform: much less chukcha.
phf: chukcha brings his novel to a su publishing dept. the editor reads it and goes "you know, you ought to read some classics, pushkin, turgenev, etc." chukcha goes "naw, chukcha is a writer, not a reader"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do not know what every particular chukcha calls every particular flashlight.
asciilifeform: friend: 'i got you a book for your bday' -- chukcha: 'i already HAVE a book'
phf owns a chukcha mouth harp, can lend asciilifeform
asciilifeform dun presently own a working chukcha mouth harp, would have to make one.
asciilifeform: strictly in light of 'client can hose the boxes' which applies to chukcha and mircea_popescu alike.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: discussed kiddiez because currently that is what lives there. like chukcha, in the north. ~nobody else there.
asciilifeform: most folks are 'chukcha ain't a reader, he's a writer' and do it anyway.
asciilifeform: punkman: deserts create their own sort of chukcha.
asciilifeform: winter per se does not create genius, no. chukcha exists.
pete_dushenski: *chukcha
asciilifeform: and it's - chukcha
assbot: Logged on 08-10-2015 02:09:29; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu re: chukcha: canonical: http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/1700710/post74537442 << scroll to pics
ascii_field: all chukcha stories are, arguably, about russians..
assbot: Logged on 08-10-2015 02:09:29; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu re: chukcha: canonical: http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/1700710/post74537442 << scroll to pics
assbot: Logged on 26-10-2015 12:40:02; punkman: "Why shoot??!!? Russian hunter, very bad hunter!" the Chukcha exclaims. "Ten kilometers to the yaranga, you drag bear yourself!"
punkman: "Why shoot??!!? Russian hunter, very bad hunter!" the Chukcha exclaims. "Ten kilometers to the yaranga, you drag bear yourself!" ☟︎
punkman: A russian geologist is doing research in Chukotka. One afternoon, he joins Chukcha on a hunt and they track a polar bear to its den. Chukcha makes some noise and seeing the bear, shouts "Run!" and starts running away. The geologist shrugs, calmly raises his gun and shoots the bear.
punkman: chukcha not writer, chukcha reader
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu re: chukcha: canonical: http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/1700710/post74537442 << scroll to pics ☟︎☟︎
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1246723 < assboti is a chukcha and it knows it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: at any rate, chukcha is a writer not reader.
assbot: 2 results for 'chukcha reader' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=chukcha+reader
asciilifeform: !s chukcha reader
assbot: Logged on 05-09-2014 17:15:16; asciilifeform: 'A Chukcha applies for membership in the Union of Soviet Writers. He is asked what literature he is familiar with. "Have you read Pushkin?" "No." "Have you read Dostoevsky?" "No." "Can you read at all?" The Chukcha, offended, replies, "Chukcha not reader, Chukcha writer!"'
asciilifeform: 'A Chukcha applies for membership in the Union of Soviet Writers. He is asked what literature he is familiar with. "Have you read Pushkin?" "No." "Have you read Dostoevsky?" "No." "Can you read at all?" The Chukcha, offended, replies, "Chukcha not reader, Chukcha writer!"' ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'man: would you like a book? Chukcha (similar to eskimo, butt of soviet jokes) replies: 'thank you - i already own a book.'
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> thestringpuller, benkay, chetty: usa would send a tax bill to a Chukcha if he weren't behind russian rockets. la << actually, aren't they derping about various russian citizens sanctions and whatnot ?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller, benkay, chetty: usa would send a tax bill to a Chukcha if he weren't behind russian rockets. law is a 'god that died.'