lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 17:34 asciilifeform: lobbes: plox to confirm when satisfied that your rk worx correctly
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 09:46 diana_coman:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-02#1857110 -> if it's anything like mine, it'll be mostly loud complaints from php because "time zone not set!!!" and similar (apparently php version on the RC is too new for its own good)
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 00:38 asciilifeform: diana_coman , lobbes : your old drives are currently in dulap, lemme know when you're ready to have'em reformatted ( so your boxen dun try an' boot from'em instead of the primary ) and reissued to you as secondary disks.
lobbes: (obligatory pizarro pitch to log readers: where else can you have 100% context on -why- service is being done on your box, as well as watch it unfold real-time? Compare and contrast with, say, this example from heathenlandia (Edis) >>
http://archive.is/NVpIR) mircea_popescu: the incredible transparency they got going is actually a very strong selling point
trinque: "we slay incas" while cute, communicates nothing except "you're not in the in-group"
☟︎ trinque: oughta say something about why the fuck someone wants a republican ISP
trinque: I'd lean hard on the "we're humans" thing, communicate that
trinque: somebody wants to know what makes an actual human later, great for him
trinque: i.e. there's this fine gentleman BingoBoingo actually in the bowls of the machine, steadfastly giving a shit.
trinque: polymath madman assembling world's only sane ARM hosting, etc
BingoBoingo: Condensing these logs into marketing is a thing being pondered
BingoBoingo returns from doing the necessary work of walking the beach at night and tormenting the Peruana by reporting how incredibly safe and secure it was
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo here's a +1 : i return from the beach also! took there, inter alia, girly whom i bought a perfectly see through, 50% of surface holes, inch-over-cunt-if-upright "dress" which i authoritatively declared to be "her bathing suit", last week. and told her she'll have to wear it at the beach. and she fretted over this wearing of this peculiar bathing suit. so today the day came, and she stepped on the beach, and the ne
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 20:31 ben_vulpes: sad fate to be remembered for failing to take out agents of the imperium given ~unlimited time and inclination to prepare.
mircea_popescu: as almost anyone in the republic can well attest, 2 weeks is pretty much the most constrained time can ever get.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 21:50 BingoBoingo: Terry didn't let his daughter's feelz get in the way of his cause
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 23:36 asciilifeform: so presently i end up shelving the idea erry time it makes circle round my conveyor
a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 04:15 mircea_popescu: if linus wasn't around to subvert early republican effort, it's not the case "republic wouldn't have ever existed" ; but it is the case republic would have been greater and better without his despicable ass.
deedbot: nicoleci voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 04:55 mircea_popescu: not sure why you keep calling them "packages" tho
lobbesbot: diana_coman: Sent 5 hours and 56 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> your rk is redisked! and running; you may want to stand up yer www server (iirc it doesn't run on boot)
diana_coman: ahhh, nm, I got confused with the later tell msg
diana_coman: www is up, date is set, everything so far looks fine; I'll give it a more thorough checkup in ~2 hours and get back to you
diana_coman: come to think about it, I can see the case for calling them "messages" since it's not the network level there, indeed
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 05:05 BingoBoingo: BeOS, Amiga, infant BSD and plan9 *nixen
a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 15:09 asciilifeform: it always struck me as a kind of 'bsd 4' - yes, 'hackable', yes, 'small', but the ~wrong kind of small~, the kind that will balloon into the same megalith as sbcl if you were to add all of the missing but necessary pieces.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 18:53 asciilifeform: kinda how i boot up that cute x86 systemv and then notice that it is PALPABLY slow on modern pentium because it lacks ANY disk cache etc.
diana_coman: looking at the udp tester data, it seems my uy end got also some packets from 161.0.121.254, lol
diana_coman: anyways, at a quick look, no errors on either direction between the 2 concerned nodes, ~99.80% made it to the other side ; will get to do a proper write-up with more details by the end of this week
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I can tell at least some of them, yes, because they got reported as "errors" because not what expected
diana_coman: but yes, I think it's just someone around here playing with the tester?
diana_coman: uhm, but somehow packages were received with the switch as source ?? and actually it IS extra packages as it were, since adding them does result in more than were sent...
diana_coman: no, but at least gives some idea more than I had on this, lol
diana_coman: I can certainly try and leave a tcpdump going to see what /if it gets anything
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 15:51 mod6: I feel like I can be pretty successful in doing that, it's the other things that I feel like I'm lacking -- a senseable direction to a 'Standford'.
mircea_popescu: if not, why not "hello x, I am y, i represent tbf, our position is, i can be reached through k j p q in the future" ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i don't mean, ~once~. i do such things, the once, to instruct and inform. like say that harvard piece.
mircea_popescu: the point of instruct and inform is that it sticks, and it becomes systematic and universal. we're not africans, whereby "oh, the shamans does the electricity thing, we're all safe now from having to do".
mircea_popescu: we're europeans, "he did that ? i wonder if i could do it too... check it out i can... guess what, I AM DOING IT FROM NOW ON". and so following.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and hey BingoBoingo , what's 161.0.121.254 ? << It should be the switch
mircea_popescu: this idea whereby we can both a) long endure and b) persistently remain null at outreach on all levels is the stuff of alf's boats.
mircea_popescu: these are attention seeking schmucks, not "name in their own mind" morons.
mircea_popescu: (have you noticed, btw, back in the days of free !!ups to allcomers, what large proportion of those? "who are you, x ?" "i am x" "but that's nobody" "nevertheless!")
mircea_popescu: nevermind that. interfacing with the ambitious schmucks is the topic here.
mircea_popescu: as a factual matter, did random "bitcoin news" crapola know or didn't know mod6 represents tbf and can be reached foir comment ?
mircea_popescu: lmao. oh, the thing that couldn't be done commercially, is now done commercially.
mircea_popescu: if it's good enough to ship to pizarro it's good enough to sell.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 03:18 trinque: "we slay incas" while cute, communicates nothing except "you're not in the in-group"
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 16:27 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wai does the switch have a public www face ? afaik this is optional toggle, and really oughta be off
diana_coman: it certainly does look like some chopped off part of one of the messages sent around
diana_coman: onth it's hard to *really* tell if it is indeed chopped off part or just other garbage, hmm
diana_coman: but then who/wtf sends udp on port 7000 ? and meanwhile I left tcpdump sniffing and ...nothing so far
diana_coman: asciilifeform, see the paste; that one is part of the live capture basically - the error log simply logs all bytes that have a different value than expected
diana_coman: asciilifeform, well, it IS all of it in there although you'd need to reconstitute it basically: look there, *all* the payload was different, so all of it IS reported; first bytes are reported anyway (sizesent and timesent)
diana_coman: anyways, I'll let you know if tcpdump sniffs any/ can tell which one it is, but this paste there is the bird in hand atm
a111: Logged on 2018-09-29 04:22 mod6: sweet, trb is done
BingoBoingo: There have even been times where I rigged www to kill itself
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 23:39 asciilifeform: diana_coman: do you have one back in 'old blightey' ? or know of a place there where i oughta put one
diana_coman: for all I know he might have it there too? I did not coordinate/ask
diana_coman: as for ideas, dunno what/how you ruled out i.e...new zealand?
diana_coman: o.O what, you mean you can't just rent a machine there?
diana_coman: having one in the uk is...easy I'd say, but I'm not all that sure it's worth much, lol
diana_coman: I suppose if not Russia proper, at any rate, Moldova, Ukr, Belarus
BingoBoingo: Event was 128th birthday of Peñarol futbol club
BingoBoingo: Yes, they try to sneak "supergas" cylinders into the stadium, but on the other hand the locals care intensely about little else. Unless they are fans of Club Nacional de Futbol in which case they are a bunch of little pussies.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The cylinders look like lp tanks from back home. I suspect it is lp, but the locals only ever call it supergas.
BingoBoingo: Not so much anymore now that stadium security is a thing, but historically
BingoBoingo: Well, the OTHER team's fans are in stadium
BingoBoingo: Now, If Trump makes Maduro sink a USG aircraft carrier the derp squad might try a run at US embassy, but I doubt they would have the commitment they do when serving as hinchas de Peñarol
BingoBoingo: The pro-marihuana thing likely for similar reasons. Keeps them comfortable while bored and saps their energy so they don't burn Mujica for making them all poorer.
BingoBoingo: I think they did that in San Fran and somewhere near where ben_vulpes is leaving "safe injection site" I believe is the pantsuited newspeak
BingoBoingo: Well, apparently the hot thing in California the Uruguayos haven't figured out yet is called "dabbing". Apparently it's a way to crack pipe hashish
BingoBoingo: And the californians recently figured it out
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 18:14 asciilifeform: aa i thought that was trinque
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 17:03 asciilifeform: it is worth noting that -- afaik -- nobody is actually using 'heavy' udp for anyffing
BingoBoingo: Its like they expect to embrace holes without the necessary stuffing
BingoBoingo: And before anyone brings up the latest Sokal 2.0, yes. A qntra is baking.
mod6: ok, let me get caught up here.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 13:28 asciilifeform: aaand i'ma skip this morning's 'in trb observatory...' , it's a straight line of 'ACCEPTED' from known trb people
mod6:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857624 << I did hear about this bug, of course. I had considered perhaps sending out something about this, but before I even dared to speak, I wanted to investigate the problem in prb-shithub, as well as the CVE. I haven't even had a spare moment yet.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 15:39 mircea_popescu: if not, why not "hello x, I am y, i represent tbf, our position is, i can be reached through k j p q in the future" ?
mircea_popescu: mod6 ideally the situation is that they send something to ask, "hey, what about this"
mircea_popescu: in point of fact, all ideology and blather aside, there simply does not exist anyone with any expertise BESIDES us.
mod6: I've just had 9000 lbs of shit in a 5 lbs bag lately. If someone wants to help me, or write something in conjunction with me, that'd be really great.
mircea_popescu: if they don't want an actual pov, and would rather publish content free fluff indefinitely, that is their problem
mod6: Sure. I just wanted to ensure that I knew what the facts were, should I say anything, and were to start getting questions about it.
mircea_popescu: changes ~nothing, there's publications out there that print bs about how magical doohickeys reduce gasoline usage by cars and shaman x cured cancer and gingivitis.
mircea_popescu: there's also publications what'd try and get hold of an acvtual engineer, or doctor, or w/e relevant professional.
mircea_popescu: on the topic of bitcoin, 100% of relevant professionals is tmsr. like it or not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform entirely their choice to make, copyrwriting or journalism. i dun care. but the choice must be made, by them, and as such.
mircea_popescu: because you're all lazy and psychotic, and would rather talk my ear off than go ask a girl out.
mod6: So just post whatever letters to the the world on mod6.net? And not the ML?
mod6: well, lol, I guess the ML is in a bit of a state lately.
mircea_popescu: absolutely. then we can actuallky DISCUSS them, rather than typically non-tmsr-esque "oh, i did something sometime i don't remember what i don't remember when and i didn't follow what happened".
mircea_popescu: moreover, if these letters were already on www, the "wtf is this foundation doing" q would not have been needed last week.
mod6: Oh, that's what I think we did last time asciilifeform. deedbot.
mod6: I gotta dig it up. It was from the "if you go on a fork..." thing iirc.[
mod6: i'll find it, just a minute. then I gotta reivew the rest of the log, and move on to pizarro things.
mircea_popescu: check it out, and it prevented the fork, and you... frogot about it ? never used it again ?
mod6: it may have been a while ago, ya.
mircea_popescu: why not use the methods that ARE PROVEN TO WORK jaysus!
mircea_popescu: "everyone thinks gavin is the expert", says alf, in 2018. but when in 2015 mp said "fuck gavin", gavin got fucked. everyone thinks ?
mircea_popescu: girls don't think what you think they think, not least of all because ~the only fucking reason~ you lie to yourself about thinking that's what girls think is so as to save your lazy ass the effort of ever talking to one.
mircea_popescu: and even that aside -- gotta write them, or otherwise vehehery tenuously can say "r foundation". because this is the sorta thing a foundation does, and this one's chartered to do -- outreach.
mod6: I'm not at all sure, in every sense of the word, of what to write about the subject. All I know was "bug found in core version 0.16.X"
mod6: And for the time being, I've got Pizarro things that need doing.
mod6: But I'd be glad to have some help, if anyone is willing to help ole mod6.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 16:24 asciilifeform: possibly idea for hanbot, who was considering taking up tbf , and is in fact experienced hand in subj
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 16:26 asciilifeform: if mod6 is overloaded, i can give it a shot myself later this wk, but imho this is suboptimal, asciilifeform does not represent tbf
mod6: I could probably start there. I am getting winded here guys.
mod6: I mean, my ticker can't keep up with this stuff. Gonna give me a heart-attack.
mod6: I gotta get the report done for pizarro. I've also gotta lock in a price and get the bills paid.
mod6: Once I have those things done, I can move on to these other things. Unless mircea_popescu and asciilifeform find it prudent that I drop what I'm doing there and write whatever this thing is.
mod6: I'm not going to be done with this report a few days ~at a minimum~.
mod6: Last month took 17 days.
mod6: Hopefully it won't be that bad this time, but I'm having to learn all of this stuff as I go.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform certainly better than current "state of the art"!
mod6: BingoBoingo just got me his numbers, so I can start calculations on that stuff now. And I think I'm about to lock in a price point for October. Which we need not only to keep the lights on, but also so we can start invoicing folks so I don't take another beating like I did in July.
BingoBoingo: <mod6> I'm not going to be done with this report a few days ~at a minimum~. << I am here so you can unload this on me
mod6: All I'm saying folks is that I'm doing the best that I can with what I've got to work with.
mod6: Yes, mircea_popescu, any help from hanbot, yourself, asciilifeform would be awesome. I just have too many things atm.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo they have a point, only sane way to look at the orcs is as what they are -- a primitive culture.
mircea_popescu: pantsuit is not substantially different from any other inconsequential group of niggers the white man subdued to date.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Which is why it is entered into the record. All of the secondary reporting made finding their report ON THEIR OWN PROJECT a serious bitch.
BingoBoingo: Which is why unlike so many other finds it got the early qntra mega block quote treatment while so many other things get the archive.is take it or leave it
mod6: BingoBoingo: If you really want to take this on, I won't object. I had thought that we would kinda go over it together... but if you wanna work through it and see how it goes, that's fine. ben_vulpes told me that he would review the report before we publish it again this month.