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assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 19:06:16; ascii_field: l0l cisco box. mircea_popescu took it off a dead nazi, or what.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303764 << i bet that cisco box contains shrunken heads of usg wreckers ☝︎
mircea_popescu: exactly the right height. all the useful engineering cisco ever did.
ascii_field: l0l cisco box. mircea_popescu took it off a dead nazi, or what. ☟︎
ascii_field: see, e.g., their 'cisco struck a blow against hackerz!1111' idiocy
assbot: Issue 460 - google-security-research - Cisco AnyConnect Secure Mobility Client v3.1.08009 Elevation of Privilege - Google Security Research - Google Project Hosting ... ( http://bit.ly/1FuR9hF )
thestringpuller: ascii_field: take compulsory remote updates from usg ? << srsly. it's backed by Cisco aka Spookware Incorporated.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you had an article, iirc, about u.s. firms voluntarily bending over by installing cisco and related gear, to avoid the rougher and less lubricated anal inspection of 'national security letter' etc.
thestringpuller: Cisco hardware has been diddle more than catholic school boys.
asciilifeform: Run Moar Cisco !
asciilifeform: http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/nsa-pwn-cisco-640x373.jpg << them.
mircea_popescu: what next, cisco still sells routers ?
asciilifeform: i think he'd rather move the packets with pencil and paper than so much as look at a 'cisco'
decimation: and yes, I realize we all hate cisco
decimation: cisco 3945e claims to handle 3mpps (64byte) for instance, can be had on ebay for 5-10k
mircea_popescu: it pointedly did not work foir cisco.
BingoBoingo: "sell support" worked for cisco and oracle when marketing to the helpless and overencumbered with bezzle
assbot: Logged on 19-07-2015 19:28:54; jurov: of course, but cisco just moves bits and does not do crypto
jurov: of course, but cisco just moves bits and does not do crypto ☟︎
decimation: jurov: to be fair, cisco does the same thing (custom logic in router)
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 15:57:34; pete_dushenski: "Cisco Systems Inc (CSCO.O) said on Tuesday it would buy OpenDNS, a privately held cloud-based security company, for $635 million in cash and equity awards to beef up its security business." << might as well consolidate the crown corps, save on letterhead.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181774 << where the fuck doies cisco have money from ? they've made losses about on par with uber ☝︎
pete_dushenski: "Cisco Systems Inc (CSCO.O) said on Tuesday it would buy OpenDNS, a privately held cloud-based security company, for $635 million in cash and equity awards to beef up its security business." << might as well consolidate the crown corps, save on letterhead. ☟︎
decimation: proprietary firewalls on cisco, etc aren't any better
pete_dushenski: i'm in the market for a new modem. don't want to swallow whatever cisco garbage shaw cable provides
asciilifeform: cisco was already tied to the firing post
mircea_popescu: same we that crushed cisco, for argument's sake.
ascii_field: rather than the cost of interdiction, which is in fact externalized to cisco et al
asciilifeform: it sold routers that gave very reasonable performance for 1/20th the cost of cisco et al
asciilifeform: decimation: you want a 'cisco cable'
mircea_popescu: the one serious problem for you, or anyone else trying to do business in the us (say, cisco) is that sooner or later your government will try and rape you with those "secret legal proceedings" bs.
mircea_popescu: and for all the "no lizard interest" high horse : take the cisco collapse.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, in the cisco way.
nubbins`: no, that doesn't happen anymore since cisco started drop-shipping to abandoned houses
nubbins`: microsoft? cisco?
assbot: Cisco posts kit to empty houses to dodge NSA chop shops • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1DI9V3o )
kakobrekla: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/18/want_to_dodge_nsa_supply_chain_taps_ask_cisco_for_a_dead_drop/
mircea_popescu: cisco was caught working with usg, lost 90% of sales in onequarter.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field compare, for it is informative, cisco's experience with bitbet's experience.
BingoBoingo: brendafdez: Spy chips are what keep Cisco in business
mircea_popescu: im kinda surprised cisco still pretends to be in business
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't ask cisco for their own heads on a platter.
BingoBoingo: brendafdez: With Cisco the NSA spying likely begins on the main silicon out of the factory
brendafdez: Cisco has poked around its routers for possible spy chips, but to date has not found anything because it necessarily does not know what NSA taps may look like, according to Stewart." :D
assbot: Cisco posts kit to empty houses to dodge NSA chop shops • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/18NafQH )
brendafdez: i thought you may want ot have a laugh and it seems it wasn't shared here yet: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/18/want_to_dodge_nsa_supply_chain_taps_ask_cisco_for_a_dead_drop/
BingoBoingo: The devil only knows which BSD Cisco corrupted into IOS or that MS uses as the Windows network stack anymore
asciilifeform: when -from- 'respectable' folks like cisco - yes, by hand, stable of monkeys (its exact location was in #b-a not long ago)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I've been to several stores and they put the Cisco routers on the bottom with sign "Spookware" and Asus routers on the top shelves with "No Spookware"
mircea_popescu: i'm happier with trilema's monetization than with cisco's soviet future.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cisco dead << still crown-blessed, usg supply alone could feed it sov. factory style till the bitter end
mircea_popescu: mike_c cisco pretty much imploded once it became clear they're working for the usg against their customers.
mircea_popescu: cisco is so fucking dead...
mircea_popescu: "Chief casualty is U.S. network equipment maker Cisco Systems Inc, which in 2012 counted 60 products on the Central Government Procurement Center's (CGPC) list, but by late 2014 had none, a Reuters analysis of official data shows."
pete_dushenski: "Monsanto said Wednesday its earnings fell 34% in its first fiscal quarter" << fucken derps following cisco to the grave. such paper signers.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] there is the occasional shop that's competent, but by and large the label offers no protection. << nice thing about growing up proximate to actual farm land worked by actual humans is the learned skill of being able to nix Cisco-vendors after a single visit.
decimation: http://www.wired.com/2015/02/tech-companies-and-vaccines/ << google and cisco day cares have less than 70% rate
mats: http://blogs.cisco.com/security/talos/cryptowall-2
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> cisco is not permitted in my home even unpowered. << Technetium even if it is a perfect catalyst not invited to the lab.
asciilifeform: cisco is not permitted in my home even unpowered.
decimation: asciilifeform: cisco et.al. have been making $$$ selling versions of this kind of thing with crapware
mircea_popescu: "Today EFF is pleased to announce Let’s Encrypt, a new certificate authority (CA) initiative that we have put together with Mozilla, Cisco, Akamai, IdenTrust, and researchers at the University of Michigan that aims to clear the remaining roadblocks to transition the Web from HTTP to HTTPS."
mircea_popescu: lol crisco is for cisco ?
asciilifeform: we talked about this. i can build planet for xxx usd, cisco - no.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cisco << i personally oversaw robot legs (steel pipes) purchased for several hundy usd each, while a thrall of usg - much less cisco
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> and 7k usd! one could build a small planet for that! << you have any idea what cisco and friends sell stuff like balancing routers etc ?
mircea_popescu: how about cisco needs more bankruptcy
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/29/cisco-the-internet-needs-more-control/ <<< this from the company that lost 90% of its sales because it turned out they worked as usg spies.
pete_dushenski: maybe cisco will succeed, and widen the gap between rich a poor even further
pete_dushenski: good luck with that, cisco
pete_dushenski: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/29/cisco-the-internet-needs-more-control/
bounce: (there's this example of big brand name (cisco, forgot the model) routers taking ttl 0 packets and sending them out again with ttl 255)
X-Rob: Yeah, twice. I used to work in InfoSec at Cisco.au
gribble: Bitsquatting: DNS Hijacking without exploitation - dinaburg.org: <http://dinaburg.org/bitsquatting.html>; Bitsquatting - [media.blackhat.com] - Audio and Video from Black Hat: <https://media.blackhat.com/bh-us-11/Dinaburg/BH_US_11_Dinaburg_Bitsquatting_WP.pdf>; Examining the Bitsquatting Attack Surface - Cisco Blog: <http://blogs.cisco.com/wp-content/uploads/Schultz- (1 more message)
decimation: yet cisco et.al. make obscure turdware and charge you to learn how to use it
DreadKnight: *cough* cisco *cough*
assbot: Cisco chief urges Obama to curb NSA surveillance activity| Reuters
kakobrekla: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/18/us-cisco-systems-nsa-idUSBREA4H0C720140518
bitcoinpete: lulzier is cisco's "fog computing"
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: cisco and chambers should just pay up if they want special treatment, neh? why bother whining to the media?
assbot: In Letter to Obama, Cisco CEO Complains About NSA Allegations | Re/code
Naphex: cisco routers prolly already had "beacons" in :)
assbot: Photos of an NSA upgrade factory show Cisco router getting implant | Ars Technica
fluffypony: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa-upgrade-factory-show-cisco-router-getting-implant/
Naphex: "A number of US companies, including Cisco and Dell, have subsequently made public statements denying that they insert such back doors into their products.[32] Microsoft provides advance warning to the NSA of vulnerabilities it knows about, before fixes or information about these vulnerabilities is available to the public; this enables TAO to execute so-called zero-day attacks.[33] A Microsoft official who declined to be identified in the press c
Naphex: meh, cisco routers not that bad, dell servers though?
mircea_popescu: HeySteve yeah, cisco sales took a shocking plunge last q over the fact that nobody wants to buy us made hardware anymore.
decimation: ?This will make it easier for all of us to consume a wide range of content on our mobile devices, most notably high definition video without frustrating lags or delays,? Cisco Director of Government Affairs Mary Brown wrote.
mircea_popescu: "AllAdvantage was a website that paid members to surf the Net. It paid to acquire these users, and supposedly leveraged its members’ eyeballs into advertizing dollars. At the initial fundraiser internet capitalist Frank Quattrone, who helped fund Cisco and many other legitimate successful concerns, and President Clinton both paid tribute to AllAdvantage"
bounce: huh, since today ze wifi developed a habit of cutting all live connections every hour or so. possibly the isp did an "upgrade", they pulled that before, with similar effects. oh the joys of CPEs, even brand name issue ("cisco" here)
mircea_popescu: kinda the reason why the rsa corp is going the way of cisco.
mircea_popescu: at least cisco knew what hit it.
mircea_popescu: reeses_ he somehow omitted his cisco number
mircea_popescu: all the while cisco reports quarters of zero sales
mircea_popescu: it cost cisco its business last month, pretty much, but the practice isn't new.
ozbot: tracert show same hop twice - 2033442 - Cisco Technical Support Forums
bgupta: https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/2033442
Namworld: cisco > Beatles, Beatles > Jesus, Jesus > cisco
KRS1: and that killed a company like cisco..damn..thats some drama.
mircea_popescu: cisco is pretty much fucking bankrupt now.