kakobrekla: benkay theres a specific condition somewhere to filter out the trading garbage out
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.310001 = 0.62 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: yeah, i've put stuff in there
benkay: thanks for operating assbot/bash/log etc btw
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00208 = 0.2018 BTC [+]
davout: "Login temporarily discouraged"
davout: also apparently thermos doesn't know session cookies go on the same wire as credentials
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 114 @ 0.00208 = 0.2371 BTC [+]
Duffer1: how many B does bitcointalk have in donations?
runam0k: so what's the story - hacked again?
davout: apparently someone accidentally enabled cloudflare for btctalk ending up, as usual, in drama and lulz
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 750 @ 0.002095 = 1.5713 BTC [+]
davout: not much details available as far as i know tho
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31902 BTC [+]
benkay: hey kako where are the bitbet monthly statements? mpex says they'll be accessible "on website" - does that mean trilema and not bitbet?
kakobrekla: that sentence is not included in the contract
benkay: (carefully never said contract)
kakobrekla: since mpex is the bitcoin exchange, i assume any vague reference to a website means THE website which is trilema
benkay: ya well these vague statements
ozbot: S.BBET pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
kakobrekla: this also gets dumped to some bitcointalk thread
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 33 @ 0.32551147 = 10.7419 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00079603 = 8.5971 BTC [+]
nubbins`: vexual, not sure re: moose casings
nubbins`: ive only had moose sausage once, but i'd imagine the intestines get left in the field
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 8 @ 0.122222 = 0.9778 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3290999 = 0.6582 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 369 @ 0.00203499 = 0.7509 BTC [-] {2}
random_cat: will pay 2.5 LTC to borrow for 16 days
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3291 BTC [+]
dub: thats a random request for this chan
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.002035 = 0.1038 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00206749 = 0.1034 BTC [+] {3}
dexX7: "News: If you used your password to login between 06:00 Dec 1 UTC and 20:00 Dec 2 UTC, then your password may have been captured in a man-in-the-middle attack, and you should change your password here and wherever else you used it. If you were only logged in via the "remember me" feature, then you're OK."
benkay: bitcointalk is itself a bad joke
Duffer1: i still can't even connect to the site
dexX7: dub do you have access to btctalk at the moment?
dexX7: can you confirm this msg?
gribble: Current Blocks: 272593 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1582 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 8 hours, 53 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 882638224.077 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.77069
random_cat: but i cannot get anyone to explain how a mitm happens in this situation
dexX7: even worse.. <XXXXXX> how come i cant log into bitcointalk?
random_cat: perhaps the exchanges will get their collective shit together and stop relying on bitcointalk as a communication path to the customers
dub: random_cat: in what situation?
random_cat: dub: logging into an ssl secured website
benkay: i for one am amazed that mpex operations deign to actually publish financials there
random_cat: did someone alter the DNS (there is a hint to that end), or wtf?
dub: I suspect this is another case of theymos not understanding what he's looking at and assuming something retarded
random_cat: that is merely informative, no? mpex also provides the info on honme turf
benkay: a) duplication b) why continue to legitimize the operation?
dub: mp needs newbs to enrage
random_cat: did the theft of the password hashes occur? it just occurred to me that i haven't changed my passord.... probably should after the 'all clear'
benkay: mp needs noobrage energy to feed his dark sorcery
dub: last time it got hacked he ended up saying 'lol oops, no i was looking at the wrong thing'
dub: safest just to assume it is and was always compromised
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3291 = 0.6582 BTC [+]
nubbins`: mint.ca down, canadian dollar crashing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 24 @ 0.05002927 = 1.2007 BTC [-] {6}
Bugpowder: wtf with the call options pricing?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 598 @ 0.002 = 1.196 BTC [+]
benkay: although mp has yet to capitulate on actually listing them in lots of satoshis
Bugpowder: I was trying to buy calls when the bitcoin price was 150
thestringpuller: They'll have to go into a straddle if the price goes too high
Bugpowder: but I couldn't figure out how to change the key
thestringpuller: you can't exit that position until the month closes...does that mean 1 we'll see stability or 2 a price crash?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.32988 = 0.6598 BTC [+]
random_cat: unless you can find a suitable synthetic
jborkl: So , I am behind in the news. Where did the forum go now?
thestringpuller: so I expect the forums will be down while theymos again investigates
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.33499966 = 2.01 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0005 / 0.0005 / 0.0005 (500 shares, 0.25 BTC), 7D: 0.0005 / 0.0007278 / 0.00075 (35000 shares, 25.47 BTC), 30D: 0.00045 / 0.00066899 / 0.00075 (45237 shares, 30.26 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.05000011 = 0.2 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00330011 = 0.198 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00078987 / 0.00079353 / 0.00079603 (133027 shares, 105.56 BTC), 7D: 0.00077981 / 0.00079847 / 0.0008476 (1314264 shares, 1,049.41 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00081869 / 0.00088996 (6179919 shares, 5,059.49 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.15899996 = 0.477 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.15993332 = 0.9596 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.16999999 = 0.51 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.17499983 BTC [+]
ozbot: 707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 1558 blocks | Estimated Change: 23.8290% in 8d 5h 27m 37s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
KRS|gotyawallet: the fuck..? are you guys watching #bitcoin-pricetalk and btc-revolution?
KRS|gotyawallet: @PumpNDumpTeam That wasn't a crash. It was retaliation towards pump and dumpers....
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.34 = 2.72 BTC [+]
benkay: naw man, what's going on over there?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1027 @ 0.00302118 = 3.1028 BTC [-] {15}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 397 @ 0.00293567 = 1.1655 BTC [-] {17}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 156 @ 0.00282141 = 0.4401 BTC [-] {17}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2746 @ 0.0026477 = 7.2706 BTC [-] {17}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 3113 @ 0.00107797 = 3.3557 BTC [-] {11}
ozbot: Digitalis Open Transactions server: Assets
benkay: goodness, what is this?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.330101 BTC [-]
KRS|gotyawallet: what bothers me still is that the price still looks so much like a bubble, even after realizing what was done yesterday/earlier.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00314037 = 0.1162 BTC [+] {3}
benkay: "what was done", meaning the 1250 > 840 > 1100 wobble?
KRS|gotyawallet: <mike4> and btc-revolution-s why didn't you drop it to 20?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 374 @ 0.002 = 0.748 BTC [+]
KRS|gotyawallet: its all in #bitcoin-pricetalk if there are any logs following that chat room
KRS|gotyawallet: basically- if this is true, hold your coins..according to him its going to be a "rough two weeks".
benkay: i have a hard time buying some rando in pricetalk's claims to move the entire btc market
Duffer1: what's he trying to accomplish?
ozbot: <wentknweqt_> good luck with stopping the pump and dumpers. i don't believe you - Pastebin.com
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 108 @ 0.00314999 = 0.3402 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: maybe there are people with giant amounts of btc floating around still who are trying to p/d, but the pumps last an entire month and the dumps last for trivial amounts of time
Duffer1: it seems he's taking credit for cryptsy's current troubles
Duffer1: ohh donate to fontas to get inside info, then crush it
KRS|gotyawallet: <btc-revolution-s> group of donors crashing out pump and dumpers - i thought you were in here with head banana and some others when we gave our first warnings
KRS|gotyawallet: he is that dude who's trying to live without fiat 100% btc
Duffer1: it's almost a case of too little too late, everything on BTC-E is already absurdly overpriced
KRS|gotyawallet: now looking back at the markets its amazing how they naturally normalize after some time
Duffer1: fontas just tweeted colossus coin pump, guess he's moving on to the coin graveyard er i mean cryptsy
Duffer1: ya no doubt there's money to be had from it
Duffer1: and with the amount of B following him, pumping some of those .00000001 coins on cryptsy could be very lucrative
KRS|gotyawallet: very interesting- a ton of DVC (Devcoin) was just deposited into some exchanges who ran out..many are anticipating a rise in value
Duffer1: apparently that was it's original purpose
Duffer1: i don't know much about the coin, other than it will be de-listed from mcxNOW soon
KRS|gotyawallet: but damn..this looks too much like a bubble so idk what side of the fence to be on here..
benkay: just be on the btc coin
benkay: develop a smug regard for day-traders
benkay: cackle gleefully when you are living your life during mini crashes
benkay: "what, there was a 30% value wobble? lol too bad i was busy drinking champange to notice"
wao-ender: mircea_popescu: are you related somehow to Ionut Popescu ?
sgnb: I heard this name was very common in Romania
dub: hold the slashdots RMS is drooling on his shoes again
dub: is it safe to visit .ro sites yet?
dub: last I herd it was instavirus
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 376 @ 0.00039999 = 0.1504 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.0551 = 0.2755 BTC [+]
zacm: i hope the place stallman speaks at has his special diet accomodations in mind. he's on a toenail diet, remember.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00079266 = 9.393 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00304989 = 0.122 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 121 @ 0.00300345 = 0.3634 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 279 @ 0.00324497 = 0.9053 BTC [+] {8}
jurov`: Login temporarily discouraged huh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00214 = 0.1498 BTC [+]
ozbot: Official Video: Snoop Lion "La La La" (prod. Major Lazer) - YouTube
ozbot: Snoop Dogg (SnoopDogg) on Twitter
Vexual: he must have a hookup to visa
Vexual: i just bought reincarnated on vinyl with my visa, and i'm sure they can connect that
ozbot: Major Lazer - Bubble Butt (feat. Bruno Mars, 2 Chainz, Tyga & Mystic) - Directed by Eric Wareheim -
KRS|gotyawallet: I could swear you can see the girl's anus when she bends down
Vexual: flip it reverse it and check it
mircea_popescu: wao-ender nah, i'm not related to any other popescu you might have heard of
mircea_popescu: (it's kind of a common surname, like smith or brown or something)
mircea_popescu: and look at that, somebody tried to rape mpoe bot and failed!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00214 = 0.107 BTC [+]
ozbot: Snoop Dogg - 02 Think About It - Blue Carpet Treatment - YouTube
Vexual: mp, you gonna endore gangsta rap now?
mircea_popescu: davout "Cloudflare talked a major CA into issuing a certificate for any domain with a cloudflare-generated keypair;"
mircea_popescu: that may be technically correct. they might have done exactly that, through the mediation of the us secretary of state.
davout: i think it has more to do with "oh your DNS is configured to cloudflare, where do i sign?"
davout: but hey, only idiots rule out the NSA
zacm: bitcointalk hijacked by us govt? never!
mircea_popescu: zacm no, just the usg using american companies as governmental agents.
mircea_popescu: it cost cisco its business last month, pretty much, but the practice isn't new.
mircea_popescu: "Because the HTTPS protocol is pretty terrible" no look, he has a point.
zacm: wonder what they want access to a bitcoin forum for.
Vexual: maybe they want everyone to scatter so it's harder to infomine
ozbot: Boys and girls, I got news : we’re being probed. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
dexX7: very good quality ddos :D
ozbot: Snoop Dogg - Gin & Juice (Official Video) - YouTube
mircea_popescu: davout "This merchant stuff solves an imaginary problem in a broken way, what's next in the core tree? Discount codes? Loyalty programs?" no, i tihnk you pretty much got it.
mircea_popescu: imho the main trunk became spurious somewhere around 4.3.0 or thereabouts. i have no idea who even follows their github anymore.
ozbot: Talking to Thief on Boat from Waterworld | Anyclip
ozbot: Filter - Welcome To The Fold (Official Video) - YouTube
gribble: Current Blocks: 272645 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1530 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 20 hours, 15 minutes, and 15 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 868927085.081 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.83247
ozbot: Wolfmother - Woman - YouTube
KRS|gotyawallet: Heard Australia is a GREAT place to visit. I shall have to try to make it there at some point.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 91 @ 0.00459999 = 0.4186 BTC [-]
truffles: wolf father doesnt have the same affect eh
Vexual: all the kids are retiring at 35 these days
ozbot: Porque te vas - Kill Cruise. 1990 (fragmento) - YouTube
Vexual: ive got a bitbet for ya
Vexual: someone will fuck with friedcats hongkong rooftop radiator before bitcoin has to fork
Vexual: except we would never hear about the radiator
Vexual: someone called galvanic corrosion
Vexual: teflon tape? really!?!?
Vexual: the coolant might be inert, but honk kong rain aint
Vexual: chinese ingenuity, or honeypot?
Vexual: misinfo is worth more than a days crane hire
ozbot: SoundCloud - Share Your Sounds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00328588 = 0.1643 BTC [-] {2}
KRS|gotyawallet: took me a few times to really like it..but you gotta like it because its btc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00329136 = 0.9874 BTC [+] {3}
ozbot: LiveLeak.com - Amazon Experimenting With Drones That Will Deliver Packages In 30 Minutes
ozbot: Twitter / Driedfred: My new credit card came in ...
mircea_popescu: "hey guise guess what, my secret key is just like my name lol. but it's all cool because i have a paper wallet."
ozbot: Twitter / Driedfred: Claudia should stop rubbing ...
ozbot: Crank Yankers Niles Needs Assistance - YouTube
Vexual: yeah, order a book, get a free quadcopter
Vexual: then it's all trustless deaddrops with innocent looking yellow lunchboxes
Vexual: a big mesh of the bastards
Vexual: i guess thats why we're not allowed nuclear AA batteries
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00328809 = 0.3288 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 405 @ 0.00329487 = 1.3344 BTC [+] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.05010003 = 0.2505 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: sure does take a long time to sync the btc client with the network
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 35 @ 0.05007715 = 1.7527 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 148 @ 0.00282106 = 0.4175 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00331 = 0.2979 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.33072 = 9.9216 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3303 = 0.6606 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.05799996 = 0.29 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 30 @ 0.03 = 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 5000 @ 0.00012164 = 0.6082 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 429 @ 0.00200081 = 0.8583 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3975 @ 0.00009603 = 0.3817 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 144 @ 0.00200081 = 0.2881 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2500 @ 0.00195363 = 4.8841 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 363 @ 0.00190272 = 0.6907 BTC [-] {7}
gribble: A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 8838602.1661 USD and would take the last price down to 780.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 883.8602 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 215.1774 seconds
dub: 20 hour work day ftw
truffles: sitting at a desk counting coins?
dub: i been on the street slangin packets
truffles: no way u were productive all 20..
pankkake: somehow firefox does not want me to connect to bitcointalk. but chrome does, and it doesn't seem to be a dns issue
deadweasel: News: If you used your password to login between 06:00 Dec 1 UTC and 20:00 Dec 2 UTC (this is in the future -- do not login until then), then your password may have been captured in a man-in-the-middle attack, and you should change your password here and wherever else you used it. If you were only logged in via the "remember me" feature, then you're OK.
deadweasel: no worries, i haven't logged in since snackman.
deadweasel: as long as you use 'remember me' you are ok.
deadweasel: don't plaintext input your password currently.
dexX7: if you want access, you can change your dns entry to google's dns though. it's 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 and resolves correctly
gribble: topace was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 20 hours, 1 minute, and 19 seconds ago: <topace> the panama fund owns 80m units, but since the ipo didnt sell out, it actually holds ~83.3m units still.
ozbot: Just found out i was ripped off by CAVirtex : Bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: Once the number of Bitcoins in circulation reaches 21 million in 2024, bounties will no longer be paid out on block discovery, and facilities such as ASICMINER's will have a choice: to either re-purpose their cooled computing power, or shut their mines down forever.
ozbot: The secret Hong Kong facility that uses boiling goo to mine Bitcoins | The Verge
kleeck: "boiling goo" - The finest journalism.
TomServo: Here's some good humor, a slashdot comment for a solution to blockchain bloat:
TomServo: What is really needed is a system where coins outside of circulation lose value so that the length of the blockchain can be easily kept to a manageable size because lost coins will disappear and the amount of history you have to keep (and verify) will be much smaller.
sgnb: when will people understand that it is not safe to keep anything on an exchange?
deadweasel: reddit motto: 'we know just enough to get into trouble'
deadweasel: ;;later tell mirceau_popescu I'm not sure I could get Ed Felten in here, but i'll give it whirl later.
jurov`: deadweaeaeasel: his name is mircea_popescu
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33999969 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.33999979 = 1.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33999999 BTC [+]
topace: people lookin for me apparently
pankkake: I wonder how it can work with city buildings - how do you prevent stealing?
deadweasel: ;;later tell mircea_popescu sent Ed Felten a quick message, invited him to discuss here. :) Good Fun.
pankkake: otherwise it's pretty cool to entirely bypass the postal system
truffles: but does he like bitcoin deadweasel
dexX7: well, do people steal parcel transporter cars?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 260 @ 0.00329997 = 0.858 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.00330001 = 0.1749 BTC [+]
lil_data: next time invest only chargebackcoins
ThickAsThieves: when i change dns to google it just erases the setting when i close the popup
mike_c: the easiest people to scam are the victims of a previous scam. proven gullability!
lil_data: to hunt down all the btc bad guys
nubbins`: bet his father would be ashamed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33999999 BTC [+]
pankkake: they wanted to believe in labcoin, I guess they now want to believe in the legal system
pankkake: I thought the "LCSH" was about finding the guys and actually going there
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33999999 BTC [+]
jamespeerless: can someone explain how the weight works on bitbet?
kakobrekla: i starts at 100k and goes down to whatever its set to go down to
kakobrekla: to account for the risk that early bettors are taking and discourage leechers
jamespeerless: is the idea that at the start of the bet the odds aren't really known?
jamespeerless: so it's to handle bets that range over long period of time or where information is leaked over time
jamespeerless: but if its "will the patriots win on sunday" WHEN you bet doesn't matter if the game hasn't started
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 353 @ 0.00339082 = 1.197 BTC [+] {10}
pankkake: late bettors usually have better info and less risk
pankkake: but there are bets where it wouldn't matter - and in that case you can create the bet with a higher last weight
ozbot: BitBet - Super Bowl coin toss will be "heads"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.05998899 = 0.18 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.05998899 = 0.4199 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05998899 = 0.3599 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05998899 = 0.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.33999999 = 1.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 317 @ 0.00348601 = 1.1051 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.05998899 = 0.24 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05998899 = 0.3599 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05998899 = 0.3599 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: pankkake on that one the weight is just mitigating the risk of mps disappearance
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.05998899 = 0.5999 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: there once was a man, his name was magellan, a portuguese skipper, the girls found him cute...
gribble: 1 XAU = 1225.900000000000 USD = 1.18851836386 BTC
mircea_popescu: btw pankkake, for your curiosity : since i finally fixed trilema credits ordering i'm getting about 10x as many orders.
mircea_popescu: i'd have died stupid if you weren't here to bitch at me.
pankkake: so most of your readers are autists like me, cool
mircea_popescu: i don't think poor was possible since about 1994 or so
kakobrekla: oh, i always thought trilema credits were the source of your wealth
mircea_popescu: pankkake i suppose it's the case that my readers DIDN'T USE TO BE autists like you. but not anymore nao. because progress and stuff.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3500 @ 0.00010996 = 0.3849 BTC [+] {3}
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets bash
pankkake: oh I realize my coloring hook for assbot actually removes the first character
pankkake: so it says 123! not 23! … makes sense now
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 110 @ 0.002045 = 0.225 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: I shaved my manly beard today. Litteraly months of work down the drain
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.03000001 = 0.36 BTC [+]
pankkake: literally* hmm.. lite. rally. there's a coin idea in there
mircea_popescu: "every time you say literally but mean metaphorically mtgox kills a large pizza kitten"
jcpham: i ignored litecoin for too long
jcpham: now i'm even mining the shit for giggles
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.00039999 = 0.2 BTC [+] {2}
jcpham: only because i have the gpu mining rigs sitting unused
pankkake: I'd use it, but I have no real GPUs
jcpham: my gpus rigs have been sitting for months because i'm too lazy to go over there and pull them offline
jcpham: should've been mining bullshit altcoin instead of laughing at them
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.03000001 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: are there any bullshit altcoins that are cpu mineable?
pankkake: quite profitable if you have a bunch of servers usually idling
pankkake: I don't understand why people pay for them, but why pass the opportunity to get some free money
mike_c: well, people have bought labcoin shares in the last week too.
ozbot: Why People Are So Bad At Picking Passwords - Slashdot
mircea_popescu: i thought the definition of bullshit altcoin was "can still gpu them"
benkay: mircea_popescu: why do gingers pick better passwords?
pankkake: well the gpu mining community is by far the worst
benkay: emotions do interfere in the ruthless pursuit of capital
benkay: and operational security
ozbot: The strange case of the delusionist and later stories. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
pankkake: Bitcoin to trade at $100 USD by the end of March 2013 link is wrong
mircea_popescu: i put it in the alt for the img and it links to their page
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.03154999 = 0.3155 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.17488997 = 0.3498 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: BitBet - Cardano delivered before Christmas
kleeck_: WHy does bitcointalk keep logging me out?
benkay: so that the mitm can get your password
kleeck_: Try'nah snatch me passwords
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.33040001 = 0.9912 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: >BFL_Josh>here's been a bit of a delay at the foundry on our chips and scheduling. The sample chips have been delayed a few weeks (still waiting on an exact date), so this should only affect the earliest customers, who we've already contacted with regards to the delay. The majority of customers should not be affected much, if at all.
kakobrekla: When I have a specific date from the foundry, I will post an update here with a revised timeline. We still expect to ship the bulk of the orders in/around February. Anyone ordering now will probably not get their order until March or April, just as an FYI and in the spirit of trying to keep realistic expectations on shipping times.
kakobrekla: Due to the delay for the earliest people, the ones affected will be upgraded to the watercooled version for free. The watercooled Monarch will be a closed loop system, so no maintenance will be required.
thestringpuller: I imagine Josh just copy pasting the same message every time there is a delay
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 227 @ 0.00187682 = 0.426 BTC [-] {7}
Vexual: simple pattern learning
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 104 @ 0.00188528 = 0.1961 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: by niow you could probably make a bfl competitor out of markov chains and php
mircea_popescu: here's a wild thought : by the time bitcoins go for 1 mn dollars each,
mircea_popescu: satoshi notation is exactly as precise as dollars and cents.
mircea_popescu: by the time bitcoins go for 1bn each, which is probably their upper bound, each satoshi is ten bux
Vexual: that would require global inflation where $10 wouldnt buy anything
ThickAsThieves: i was thinking about this a few days ago coincidentally
mircea_popescu: the endgame where bitcoin is the universal backer of all currency and it trades somewhere in the 10mn to 1bn per range actually sees the dollar slightly stronger than it is today.
dub: some poindexter at MIT worked out that satoshi-dime parity was $15k and change
benkay: mircea_popescu u know i been saying you gotta start writing options on lots of satoshis
benkay: we all know where this curve goes sir
dub: iirc it was the smallest unit in amerifag money
benkay: save us all the accounting headache of figuring out how many fractions of a buttcoin the options are written on each month and just quote 'em in lots of satoshi and put it in the listing string!
Vexual: is ther 12 million billion dollars in the world?
dub: its going to be a real problem for a lot of bitcoiners
benkay: ^^ that scientific notation
dub: how to buy a dimebag of crack when the smallest unit is $10????!
mircea_popescu: global gnp is somewhere in the 20 trn (thousand billion) range.
benkay: "what is one to do - scientific notation?" fuck yes!
benkay: imagine the referential transparency: "O.USD.C125T.e6"
Vexual: I don't understand the concept mircea
dub: breathing through his nose
mircea_popescu: upper bound is like "the highest something will ever conceivably go"
mircea_popescu: like the upper bound for cranial capacity is about 3k cc, because there's a finite space between a woman
Vexual: bitcoin trading to 1bn?
mircea_popescu: <dub> how to buy a dimebag of crack when the smallest unit is $10????! <<< HOW TO PAY TX FEES ON THAT!!!
Vexual: now im not an economist by any stretch of the imagination..
mircea_popescu: Vexual looky : about 20 trn of new wealth is added to the world each year. the asset value of the world, all things told, is probably two to three degrees of magnitude above that.
mircea_popescu: if one single currency is to represent all that value, and especially if that one single currency is bitcoin, where people exhibit a massive tendency to hoard it,
mircea_popescu: it's not inconceivable that the btc still in circulation by the time btc takes over the whole world economy will trade at what would be the equivalent of today's billion dollars.
mircea_popescu: it is probably forcing a point, which is why i say upper bound.
Vexual: bit at 12 million billion, $10 ain't gonna buy shit
mircea_popescu: a hambuger or a cheap blowjob in america's inner city highschools.
Vexual: waiting for that no fee confirm
mircea_popescu: whole new prostitution dynamics, you send the no fee 1 satoshi tx as she takes her top off, the tx finally confirms by the time she's wiping her lip.
Vexual: double spend and get the hamburger too
dub: we're forgetting the dev team will save us
ozbot: Twitter / Driedfred: My new credit card came in ...
Vexual: the grren line offs a few billion in 2 centuries
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.03 = 0.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.155 = 0.31 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.08305 = 0.1661 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: 90 BTC to give everyonbe on earth one satoshi
ozbot: BBC News - Rare Iceland armed police operation leaves man dead
mircea_popescu: Counselling is being provided to the special forces team.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.0297 = 0.3267 BTC [-]
Vexual: @just imagine he was a seal@
ThickAsThieves: what might a slate reader buy from LH? Or maybe it's a recruitment ad?
Vexual: a phd is paying someone to read something that took you 3 years to write.
dub: ads are usually defined by your bubble not the site
jurov`: “take your parents to work day.” rly, this is a thing???
dub: I wonder how many people that took parents to a job interview got hired
dub: what do you even have on your CV at that point?
mircea_popescu: "Rates of depression are soaring among millennials in college."
dub: I learned to wipe my own ass just the other day
truffles: life is depressing, when thats figured out, maybe some will grow up
jborkl: so, Picostocks got haxxored for 6000btc now?
dub: they should hand out cyanide pills instead of prozac
mircea_popescu: " It became increasingly difficult to balance school, socializing, laundry, and a part-time job."
mircea_popescu: no seriously ? get a job in porn, the set mother will tell you when you need to wash the cum off.
jborkl: ie reading facebook while cooking hamburgers
jborkl: I lose track, it isn't a exciting week anymore if less than 10,000 btc is hacked(run off with by a shitbag)
Vexual: no wonder laudry coins
mircea_popescu: "The big problem is not that they think too highly of themselves. Their bigger challenge is conflict negotiation, and they often are unable to think for themselves."
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as they're not groveling nude at the feet of their betters, they DO think way too high of themselves.
ozbot: Beastie Boys : Skills to Pay the Bills - YouTube
jborkl: All the noobs think they are really getting bitcoins back from (insert scammer of the week here)
ThickAsThieves: mp this reminds me of the concept discussed in the past, of well-off parents not properly teaching their kids to stay wealthy, and then over X generations all wealth is lost to the family name
jborkl: they have not been here in the past and seen (insert scammer of the past week here) did not pay anyone back
mike_c: of course, since the ancestor who made the money is dead, who cares?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the trick is, making a fortune and keeping a fortune are pretty divergent skills.
mircea_popescu: consider the following imo very illustrative example :
mircea_popescu: everyone involved in bitcoin of any consequence exhibits the "cave early" behaviour.
mike_c: tough to enjoy your legacy when you're dead.
ThickAsThieves: some really do enjoy knowing they have a legacy to leave
mircea_popescu: now, this is a rare behaviour irl. if you go up to a girl and ask her out, it's rare that she says "ok, i'm willing to be your gf now" after two hours.
mircea_popescu: in general, the expectation will be that she caves late. and indeed should you after a three week courtship tell her gtfo, you should have said yes on the first pass it'll be unexpected.
mircea_popescu: now, bitcoiners are exactly the opposite : they are in bitcoin because they caved early, to the lures of this bitcoin idea.
mircea_popescu: the bears are more akin to the girl : they expect bitcoin to court them.
mircea_popescu: the funny thing is, that the people who caved early and got bitcoin will continue with the same behaviour : they cave early and get dollars, too.
mircea_popescu: this is why we see this see saw pattern on the price : once it reaches 100 everyone who thought "three digits" sells out
mircea_popescu: the mounting buying pressure is temporarily sated, but then later on ? 200, 500, 800 go by like a dream
mircea_popescu: because all the kids who were going to sell at 100 to 1000 sold at 130ish
mircea_popescu: the same will repeat for a while, i suspect. most of the people that willl sell under 10k have sold or are about to sell at 1k ish
mircea_popescu: now, this behaviour clearly does not optimize the $$$ you get for your btc,
mircea_popescu: but it is coherent with the behaviour that GOT YOU that btc in the first place.
mircea_popescu: and this is not limited to our narrow corner of tghe world. keeping a fortune and making a fortune are widely different skillsets.
mircea_popescu: obviously the same cave early behaviour is related to a lot of the forum-style scammy nonsense passing for investment so successfully.
Vexual: people are mostly just fish with arms
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00078568 = 7.0711 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00010998 = 1.0998 BTC [+] {4}
mike_c: ugh, i'm mining litecoins. somebody smack me please.
☟︎ mike_c: i think i'm currently losing about $2 an hour
benkay`: that sounded like a bubble popping
mike_c: projected: 12% bump in 17 hours
Vexual: they were losing $2 an hour in 2009, but not getting hot
pankkake: lol, they probably went up in price too
pankkake: usually stuff used for mining is considered half dead
mircea_popescu: 225 seems insane, nvidia cards are better for gaming anywqay
mike_c: well, that was fun. experience gained, miner off.
mircea_popescu: he's off to buy the east indies on his accumulated mined coins
kakobrekla: well its not mining any more but at the time yeah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3304002 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: anyway no glitches or anything and i abused the card a lot
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00386999 = 0.1161 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: "Making conversation at Thanksgiving can be hard, but apparently it's especially hard if you're an employee of the National Security Agency. So the agency has stepped in to solve the problem, issuing this list of approved talking points for fending off hostile relatives"
ozbot: NSA Sent Home Talking Points for Employees to Use in Conversations with Family & Friends During Holi
ThickAsThieves: (1) NSA’s mission is of great value to the Nation”; (2) NSA performs its mission the right way—lawful, compliant and in a way that protects civil liberties and privacy; (3) NSA performs its mission exceptionally well. We strive to be the best that we can be, because that’s what America requires as part of its defense in a dangerous world; (4) The people who work for NSA are
ThickAsThieves: loyal Americans with expert skills who make sacrifices to help protect the freedoms we all cherish; (5) NSA is committed to increased transparency, public dialog and faithful implementation of any changes required by our overseers. (No emphasis added. Underlines appear in the document.)
Vexual: snowden didnt get that memo
thestringpuller: some of the stuff mircea_popescu says is like listening to the buddha speak lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00340045 = 0.1326 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: i asked a black guy if he was related to a famous black guy that he looks very similar to, his response "defining features don't equal relation at least not typically" is he a grump, or did i cross some kinda they-all-look-the-same line?
dub: was the similarity in his big lips/wide node/sloping forehead/big penis?
truffles: TAT yea but u think they all look a like
ozbot: Rake - S1E8 Tax Charges clip - YouTube
truffles: 2nd clip of shocker ending Vexual!
mircea_popescu: i wonder what happens come 2016 when some republican gets elected us president if obama announces he "won't enforce" the new presidency.
ozbot: Genetic portraits: How much do you and your family members really look alike?
dub: motherfuckers be line steppin