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asciilifeform: short of financing its entire r&d starting from ore.
BingoBoingo waits for the cold unforgiving march of money to turn cardano toolchain into workstation.
mircea_popescu: well yes.
mircea_popescu: kinda why soviets became unpopular in central europe in the 80s
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this story is actually about a machine involved in my day job
mike_c: aren't those IPS screens supposed to be the shit?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I know, but... Nothing happens in isolation
asciilifeform: mike_c: ips in a laptop?
mike_c: dunno. am researching now, usually a good idea before opening one's mouth.
asciilifeform: mike_c: they exist, in theory, but nothing with 1000+ rows of pixels
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure, they exist, but not really feasible for laptop from what i recall
mircea_popescu: too much power draw or something
asciilifeform used that thing again for half hour, to test, and now has a truly astonishingly-powerful headache
mircea_popescu: http://atc.blockr.io/#!/charts << gotta say this is one of the few pages implementing graphs correctly
mircea_popescu: ty mod6
kakobrekla: i have ips screen on lappy
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yep i have the same problem with newer laptops
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: resolution ?
kakobrekla: it fails on that yea.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: what do you like about the graphs?
mircea_popescu: mike_c that they run on my browser.
penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/newsweeklied-lied/
mike_c: heh. i haven't gotten into svg yet, seems worthwhile though.
mircea_popescu: ninjashogun: For exmaple, i would rate you a 1 (easily) based on our previous conversation, but it wouldn't accept it. << such pandering.
asciilifeform: the most infuriating thing is that the easiest way to increase vertical resolution (the only kind that really matters to me) is to turn the display 90 degrees, which is not doable on laptop.
asciilifeform: on every 'real' computer i own, i do it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in a sense, the fact that everyone today uses computers with porn screens, rather than coding screens
mircea_popescu: is clear proof the trolls have won.
BingoBoingo: Like the world's biggest walmart http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/nsa-660x440.jpeg
asciilifeform: can't even imagine a respectable porn aficionado enjoying these
asciilifeform: at least, not for still shots
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform point being, they're cinematic screens (wider than tall) rather than coding screens (taller than wide)
asciilifeform: this, yes
asciilifeform: incidentally, notice xerox and original mit lisp machines - had correct (vertical) displays.
asciilifeform: but no, modified television for everybody. to this day.
mircea_popescu: so in bitbet board kako proposed a motion to give punkman 10k shares too, which passed. you got a mpex acct ? or coinbr ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's what im sayin'.
mircea_popescu: all this ninjashogun bs polluting the logs... i keep skipping, who knows what valuable contribution of some legitimate participant falls through cracks thusly
kakobrekla: we need like personalized filter
asciilifeform: it really is time to start charging him for the privilege of using #b-a as a public urinal
assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1CN9WYP.txt )
BingoBoingo: !b 3 ✂︎
mircea_popescu: yeah srsly i dunno why people keep upping him.
mircea_popescu: up some porn star or something, at least boobs.
kakobrekla: i do wat i want
kakobrekla: o wait, it wasnt me.
asciilifeform: presumably to keep him addicted while the pay toilet coin hopper is wired in.
mircea_popescu: yeah, and then he'll ipo b-a voice on cryptsy
mircea_popescu: and you'll end up with 50 kids each contributing a nickle towards it
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: And unlike MtGox I hack on live php withou knowing php or crashing the thing. <<< this is pretty much why people like php
kakobrekla: its like lisp in that sense
kakobrekla: lel
mircea_popescu: lmao
BingoBoingo: It's a language you don't need to know to fix... so far...
mircea_popescu: pretty much like a kitchen appliance
BingoBoingo: If it gets really bad drop it on the counter
mircea_popescu: assbot: NSA Mind-Bender: We Won't Tell You What Info We Already Leaked to the Media | WIRED <<< i was having a lulz earlier at that
mircea_popescu: kinda reminescent of all sorts of bureaucratic nonsense early on in the snowden saga, when they still thought they're living in old world
BingoBoingo: I still can't get over the misguided web design of the Snowden film website
mircea_popescu: mike_c: when is b-a going to list itself on mpex and pay shares based on line count? << http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/infinate-corectpowar.jpg
kakobrekla: well it does resemble a coil
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this works especially well on a cheap 'ups'.
mircea_popescu: lmao omfg.
mike_c: hehe
mircea_popescu: this somehow has not occured to me
mircea_popescu: i suppose the best way is to plug a router into itself and then the ups into itself making the coils go through each other
mircea_popescu: seti was doing it wrong
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/fergusonoctober-protests-resume-with-actions-in-ferguson-first-arrests/article_c1752132-9731-542e-8525-1885fae7fd10.html
assbot: Arrest total upped to 42 at Ferguson police station on 'Moral Monday,' more events elsewhere : News
mircea_popescu: 42 n ot bad
BingoBoingo: At this point if St Louis gets an obola case, whites and blacks will prolly agree it is ebama's fault
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: hell, captain kidd supposedly did it at his hanging. << this.
mircea_popescu: http://www.contravex.com/2014/10/13/qntra-reaffirms-wot-irc-yeshiva-in-no-way-optional/ << wow lok at that, s.qntr got a fan
assbot: Qntra Reaffirms That The WoT And IRC Yeshiva Are In No Way Optional - Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
cazalla: yeah but then qntra went and relaxed the guidelines, if need be anyway
mircea_popescu: like how ?
BingoBoingo: Taleb could probably get an article in without 6 months reading.
cazalla: 6 months logs part
mircea_popescu: well yea, but i mean, the only way to verify that part is through what the people say
mircea_popescu: as in, does this guy show understanding comensurate with a semester's reading
mircea_popescu: not like ninjashogun can come and say "hei guise, i got 6months in, that's it rite ???"
BingoBoingo: Well I dunno that ninjashogun has ever read anything. It might taint his seekrit ideas with prior art.
mircea_popescu: there is that yea
BingoBoingo: It is a disease of a lot of the swiftly discountable crackpots
asciilifeform: my favourite hypothesis re mr. spam is that he is a scammer masquerading as an incompetent usg case officer.
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BingoBoingo: !b 7 ✂︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Why can't he be both?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think anyone but you really sees the usg case officer angle.
mircea_popescu: not the right kind of derp.
BingoBoingo: I can see it.
mircea_popescu: maybe im just out of touch
BingoBoingo: Asks a lot of unanswerable questions about net worth. Derpy scammer is an angle usg has prolly tried before in tax cases.
asciilifeform: basic case master recipe from both sides of cold war - pretend to be an unrelated animal that nevertheless merits close access to the chumper's personal guts.
asciilifeform: e.g., a priest.
BingoBoingo: The impression of incompetence offers tha failed agent quite a bit of plausible deniability
asciilifeform: or 'co-phounder'
assbot: ninjashogun +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -4
asciilifeform: co-flounder?
nubbins`: wait, ninjashogun is a plant?!
mircea_popescu: reviewing records, it seems i've been on the capitulating side of this argument once before
nubbins`: but i opened my books to that guy
mircea_popescu: i dunno...
nubbins`: receipts, invoices, everything
mircea_popescu: nubbins` oh you
nubbins`: ;/
asciilifeform: nubbins`: at least you didn't open up for the spores
asciilifeform: or didja.
mircea_popescu: well there was that threesome in the woods...
nubbins`: the... spores...
mircea_popescu: someone should make a bitcoin scammer cartman. sort of a karpeles - tom van dyke - rpietilla mix.,
mircea_popescu: his hat could be a silver cup.
BingoBoingo: I thought the tradehill crowd played that out already
BingoBoingo: except they kept their Cartmanland
mircea_popescu: srsly we need a good cartoon maker in here.
mircea_popescu: !up menahem
BingoBoingo: Well in 2016 should be able to afford the south park guys
mircea_popescu: i'd rather give some young uns a boost.
mircea_popescu: otherwise it feels just like jenifer lopez' mom winning the lottery
asciilifeform: <ninjashogun> this really is ridiculous. Again, straight out of http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point --- straight harassment and trolling. Because you don't want to actually work on shipping product.
asciilifeform: ^ from our friend, mr spam
asciilifeform inspects apparently-broken killfile
BingoBoingo: Maybe ur using killfile wrong?
mircea_popescu: "o look guise, i have an article which sais people make fun of idiots! therefore your making fun of my idiocy is rendered null and void!11"
mircea_popescu: what is this, the special internets ?
BingoBoingo: No, special internets has shorter bus and pipes
BingoBoingo: !up mpmcsweeney
asciilifeform will probably have to switch to whitelist soon.
asciilifeform: would be interesting to have #b-a-voiced-only pm whitelist plugin.
mircea_popescu: you can probably write it
asciilifeform: i could, yes. perhaps in peacetime.
mircea_popescu: it's an interesting idea anyway. what do most people use, irssi ? xchat ?
mircea_popescu: emacs ?
asciilifeform: presently xchat
BingoBoingo: xchat atm
asciilifeform: anyone fess up to emacs ?
menahem: weechat
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: emacs would be interesting if Stallman surrended and just had it replace Hurd in his grand scheme
mircea_popescu: "bingbot 0.0.0 Ben AsselstineBingbot turns you into an IRC cyborg. When someone says "uptime" to you, it answers them back with your uptime. When someone says "vi?" to you, it answers them back with the last file you opened in vim. When someone says "search: foo" to you, it gets a random link to a gif on imgur.com/r/gifs/new and shows them that. written in c++, requires glibmm, curlpp and sigc++."
mircea_popescu: holy shit. what is wrong with people
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: elisp is a terrifyingly pre-1970s-style crock of shit. e.g., brings back the infamous 'funarg problem'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is there one which invites strangers to format your hd?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Still better than the x86 is nothing but shims all the way down problem
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you're more than welcome to boot straight into emacs even now.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform on the basis of that description, easily extensible
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in fact, when, as a boy, i first read of lisp machines, i somehow thought this is how they worked.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Last time I tried that I realized I dun really know how to emax
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you may have to break down and get the book.
BingoBoingo: Yeah
asciilifeform: if you don't have a greybeard to apprentice with.
BingoBoingo: None around here who won't steal my jools
asciilifeform: <ninjashogun> You seriously need to stop with the trolling. It is extremely unprofessional. I've already apologized for hurting your feelings.
asciilifeform: <ninjashogun> You also repeatedly mention me in a negative light, despite my not saying anything to you. Just stop.
asciilifeform: what is even the deal with xchat. / ignore user ALL doesn't seem to work.
mircea_popescu: so, how to break up with a girl subtler than sublte ?
mircea_popescu: bring her begonias
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I thought carnations were the way.
mircea_popescu: no but see... be-gone-yas
BingoBoingo: Ah, around these parts carnations are "funeral flowers" So you bring the carnations and ask the girl if they remind her of anything. Inevitably she mentions an older relative. Then... That's about where we're at nao.
ben_vulpes: i fess up to emacs
Apocalyptic: <asciilifeform> what is even the deal with xchat. / ignore user ALL doesn't seem to work. // you have to provide a hostmask for <user>
ben_vulpes: erc
ben_vulpes: works for me
mircea_popescu: it works srsly.
ben_vulpes: plus extensible with stallisp
danielpbarron uses irssi
BingoBoingo: Might have to try begonias next time
ben_vulpes: irssi's okay. wacky wacky architecture tho.
BingoBoingo: How much did ebama pay her to spread obola? http://gawker.com/nbc-chief-medical-correspondent-quarantined-for-ebola-1645924287
assbot: NBC's Medical Correspondent is Quarantined for Ebola, Goes Out Anyway
mircea_popescu: jesus.
ben_vulpes: o.O
mircea_popescu: did she bareback a bunch of dudes at least ?
BingoBoingo: Who know?
BingoBoingo: The thing about ebola is that people talk about it either like it's the flu and easy to spead or GRIDS which is hard to spread when it is in the middle, but leaning closer to the flu
mircea_popescu: actually it's pretty close to aids from what i gather.
BingoBoingo: But this shit doesn't work in two dimesions, because sweat can't spread GRIDS or the flu
asciilifeform: i'd like to see which one of us gets kicked off freenode first, for 'harrassing' mr spam.
danielpbarron: lol
mircea_popescu: uh
BingoBoingo: And it really is GRIDS rather than AIDS to shame the system that could not forsee that most cases would happen to hetrosexual african women.
mircea_popescu: what is this, lala land ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo come again ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The actual demographics of AIDS vs the history of AIDS naming
mircea_popescu: ah
mircea_popescu: anywya, it'll be hilarious once it comes out that whites actually have some natural resistence to the disease, which blacks do not. that sort of thing is what makes one suspect god is in it for the lulz.
xanthyos: <+mircea_popescu> no but see... be-gone-yas << this cryptic breakup pun is pilkingtonian
mircea_popescu: :p
asciilifeform: i suspect that quarantine on certain people will be enforced very honestly, while on others (as above example) - not quite.
asciilifeform: no historical example of this, afaik, but the totalitarian state is a rather young thing
asciilifeform: (though biowar is ancient...)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> no historical example of this, afaik, but the totalitarian state is a rather young thing << Not so young, socrates tried to implement it
xanthyos: the fema camps full of empty coffins have already been built
asciilifeform: xanthyos: that story never made sense - why would we get own coffins
asciilifeform: what's wrong with old-fashioned mass grave.
asciilifeform: coffins! what luxury americans expect.
asciilifeform: how many of, e.g., stalin's, clients, got coffins.
xanthyos: it's more believable as a conspiracy theory if they don't go to the extent of telling the people there will be mass graves
asciilifeform: the hilarious part is, i can actually believe that they'd stockpile coffins.
xanthyos: maybe only the front row is coffins
asciilifeform: !s beetle men
assbot: 2 results for 'beetle men' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=beetle+men
xanthyos: maybe there's a lobbyist in washington who works for big coffin
nubbins`: make em the right shape, you can nest 'em like wading pools.
nubbins`: after all, what is a coffin but an oblong Rubbermaid storage bin?
asciilifeform: the rule-following beetle men, they will read 'victims must be buried in coffins' and literally order it done, in precisely that way
asciilifeform: identical 'rubbermaid' ones, made under contract #something, yes.
asciilifeform: if they're used, it'll be 3-4 clients per.
asciilifeform: otherwise, where to pack them all.
BingoBoingo: I like the people who say "come on obola isn't zombie plague" not realizing that unlike pretend zombie plague obola leaves people real dead.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> xanthyos: that story never made sense - why would we get own coffins << it makes perfect sense if you consider it for the communicatioon exercise it actually is.
asciilifeform: actually it is quite like the zombie plague
mircea_popescu: what';s better than a large pile of symbolically meaningful items.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Indeed
asciilifeform: in that, before final resting place, you get to amble about and infect.
xanthyos: ethanol prices go up because corn is used to make coffins from biodegreadeable vegetable cellulose
BingoBoingo: Also look how far people travel in their last days
asciilifeform: the more developed a welfare state, the juicier a target it will appear to these travellers.
asciilifeform: if there is an 'x' such that 'if only i can make it to x, i might live' - that's where they'll go.
BingoBoingo: Surprised moiety isn't returned asking for obola asylum in Australia
nubbins`: if only i can make it to terminus
xanthyos: heh i was thinking terminus as wel
xanthyos: :/
nubbins`: <joecool> kyrio: hm, i had it in wikipedia for awhile that Seal's face was mauled by dogs as a child, stayed up for a year or so
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 0.09906876 = 2.3777 BTC [-] {8}
asciilifeform: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-13/cidrap-we-believe-there-scientific-evidence-ebola-has-potential-be-airborne << with lit citations.
assbot: CIDRAP: "We Believe There Is Scientific Evidence Ebola Has The Potential To Be Airborne" | Zero Hedge
danielpbarron: put patient in catapult
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asciilifeform: http://ispub.com/IJPRM/2/1/12768
assbot: Internet Scientific Publications
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron> put patient in catapult << Not necessary, warm humid atmosphere is probably sufficient. Or ISIS member with bomb vest.
asciilifeform: http://www.idahopress.com/news/local/radioactive-material-cleaned-from-boise-apartment/article_e8b5d496-5335-11e4-b968-d73b8eff28f0.html << unrelated but somehow familiar
assbot: Radioactive material cleaned from Boise apartment - Idaho Press-Tribune: Local
danielpbarron: i was also thinking explosion, but wanted to point out this isn't reall an innovative idea
thickasthieves: <+mircea_popescu> seti was doing it wrong /// no, no, like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJAgrUBF4w
assbot: Amazing Resonance Experiment! - YouTube
asciilifeform: thickasthieves: that experiment, described in 'flying circus of physics' among other places, was traditionally done with a violin bow.
asciilifeform: no computer needed.
thickasthieves: it's awesome thought
thickasthieves: though
assbot: drawesome +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> the more developed a welfare state, the juicier a target it will appear to these travellers. << now this is an interesting point.
BingoBoingo: !up drawesome
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves well good teaching aid. otherwise kinda banal.
mircea_popescu: not to detract or anything.
decimation: "the rule-following beetle men" << asciilifeform - the same ones who would conspire to breach attorney-client privilege ;)
mircea_popescu: most certainly not.
mircea_popescu: only after it's the done thing would they flock to do it. but for now, they won't hear of it.
drawesome: Thanks BingoBoingo
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BingoBoingo: drawesome: So what do you do?
drawesome: BingoBoingo, I'm just looking
mircea_popescu: so then... drlooksome ?
drawesome: :p lol
BingoBoingo: What if he's just looking... in awe?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00073757 = 17.4804 BTC [+]
thickasthieves: obv he's awesome at drawing
decimation: "Last week, a dog belonging to an Ebola-infected nurse was euthanized in Spain, causing a national outcry. " << wtf
ben_vulpes: > paintball gun
ben_vulpes: > pepperspray balls
ben_vulpes: ^^ this is a thing?!?
mircea_popescu: decimation the press is readily reporting "national outcries" of some topics but not others.
ben_vulpes: http://www.pepperball.com/
assbot: Pepperball
ben_vulpes: oh shit
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes old thing no ?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Pepperball is an over the counter thing
nubbins`: cool
nubbins`: not in canada it ain't
ben_vulpes: hey i'm an insulated american't
ben_vulpes: my naive schoolby wonder should be a thing of joy for you jaded internet fags
nubbins`: so alice and bob enter a room, the entrance of which is controlled by carol
nubbins`: you with me so far?
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mircea_popescu: ya
ben_vulpes: antici....
BingoBoingo: look at Andreas derp his innocence https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/521848974853279744
assbot: Confirming that /newsweeklied is the legitimate legal defense fund for Dorian Nakamoto.cc: /ethankirschner, /aantonop
mircea_popescu: http://www.businessinsider.com/snapchat-hacked-the-snappening-2014-10 << clearly, the cloud is the answer.
assbot: Snapchat Hacked: 'The Snappening' - Business Insider
BingoBoingo: AndreasMAntonopoulos ‏@aantonop 1m1 minute ago
BingoBoingo: @BBoingo No, I remember the time I tweeted source code that didn’t contain malware. Later, they added an executable with malware. Troll
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo o i see, "troll" is it ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes probably the next logical step is declaring social media users chattel and starting markets for their buying and selling.
mircea_popescu: "knock knock" "who's there ?" "i am from b-a ma'am. i bought your daughter on otc. bring her out, don't bother packing anything"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yes, pointing out Andreas spreads malware is now troll.
mircea_popescu: guy goes around neighbourhood in his vw van, taking deprs to their new basements...
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo recall scammers calling mpoe-pr a troll back in the day ?
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, it's distruptive and rude!
mircea_popescu: idiots are so inventive, i swear.
BingoBoingo: Such repetition on their part.
BingoBoingo: Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if obola was a greek thing
mircea_popescu: um.
mircea_popescu: of course it is ?
mircea_popescu: ;;google oboloi
gribble: Obol (coin) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obol_(coin)>; oboloi - Wiktionary: <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/oboloi>; Ancient Greek Money and Coins - Mlahanas.de: <http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Money.htm>
BingoBoingo: lol
danielpbarron: EbolaCoin - the fist cryptocurrency to support ebola research!
mircea_popescu: why research ? suport the virus!
danielpbarron: proof of infection
cazalla: so the guy behind that australian bitcoin group, sam lee, is the same guy behind bitcoin reserve who got tricked into clicking a link which gave the attacker access to his gmail lol
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Update his poast to roast?
cazalla: from july http://www.startupsmart.com.au/financing-a-business/melbourne-based-bitcoin-fund-lost-70000-in-a-cyber-attack-caused-by-us-marshals-service/2014070112637.html
assbot: Melbourne-based bitcoin fund lost $70,000 in a cyber-attack caused by US Marshals Service
nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=820826.0
assbot: [Auction] 2 entire full toe-nail freshly ripped off!
nubbins`: probably nsfa
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i will update it
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i wonder how much btc for a lb of human clits.
mircea_popescu: i mean, pheasant tongue only takes decadence so far.
nubbins`: my friend has three pheasants
nubbins`: wait, no, partridges
nubbins`: no, wait. he has phimosis
mircea_popescu: !up chiral
chiral: \o/
chiral: winning
chiral: im telling the news
mircea_popescu: aha ?
thickasthieves: welcome to the celebration of all that is perverse!
chiral: :>
cazalla: here he is discussing it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jOuGYVv7Ak
assbot: Interview: Sam Lee - Silk Road auction hacking victim. - YouTube
mircea_popescu: lol wait. he got owned by the usms while using usg operated silk road ?!
mircea_popescu: !up PinkPosixPXE
cazalla: the attacked got his details from the usms list that they leaked and then pretended to be a journalist to rope him in
cazalla: attacker*
mircea_popescu: intereskin
asciilifeform: declaring social media users chattel and starting markets for their buying and selling << this is sorta SOP already...
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decimation: !up adlai
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i meant physically.
mircea_popescu: obviously their virtual personas have long been a commodity
mircea_popescu: but maybe it's time for the 4th wall to be breached
thickasthieves: zonky: "yeah i wrote a calculator in ether, now i have to pay my computer to do math. ether is the future"
thickasthieves: zoinky*
thickasthieves: lol
mircea_popescu: lol
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> declaring social media users chattel and starting markets for their buying and selling << this is sorta SOP already... << I mean Thiel was an early facebutt investor
kakobrekla: he saved passwords in his chrome browser.
mircea_popescu: it was built from the ground up with security in mind
mircea_popescu: oops, i mean... it was butt from the security up with a ground mind
thickasthieves: i knew these austrian guys that used to say "i made a castle" when they made a big shit
thickasthieves: dunno if that's a thing in german or whatever
decimation: Thiel implied that facebook was a general failure << http://conversationswithbillkristol.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Thiel_conversations_transcript.pdf << "And so we would like to say Facebook is a specific success, it must mean some general success. And so Facebook is a great business,and therefore it will solve all the world’s problems. And I think the modality I prefer to think of is, that there are specific
kakobrekla: hm, i heard that before.
decimation: successes but they may be symptomatic of general failure"
kakobrekla: the castle thing
mircea_popescu: today i learned that my name in chinses (米炮) has cannon in it!
mircea_popescu: !up gsdgdfs
thickasthieves: and a butthole icon
mircea_popescu: uh... ?
kakobrekla: eh my name has tits in english
thickasthieves: first icon looks like a brownstar
thickasthieves: sexond looks like stick man gettng a bj
thickasthieves: maybe it's just my font
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves you know... this is either pareidolia or else wife's been away for too long ?
BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> eh my name has tits in english << But it means dick
thickasthieves: being around you too long is much more likely
mircea_popescu: we're thousands of miles apart!
mircea_popescu: !up bitspill_
thickasthieves: or are we?
mircea_popescu: !up rdekley_
thickasthieves: i had to look up Pareidolia
thickasthieves: yeah i do that a lot
thickasthieves: i also like pointing out people that look like people
thickasthieves: and ethnic traits
thickasthieves: and naming fonts on signs
thickasthieves: etc
thickasthieves: i guess it's all pattern recognition, i'm a true american!
mircea_popescu: !up timeaftertime
timeaftertime: yo any cult chirstians in here?
mircea_popescu: luke-jr_ and danielpbarron
thickasthieves: talk to luke-jr
kakobrekla: luke also does child rapes, 20bux.
timeaftertime: who's luke jr?
decimation: I'm a Christian
timeaftertime: who's danielpbarron
mircea_popescu: timeaftertime the log is in the topic, use it.
timeaftertime: decimation: what cult do you belong too?
thickasthieves: what bridge do you live under?
timeaftertime: thickasthieves: carm.org
assbot: luke-jr_ +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
thickasthieves: wassat?
mircea_popescu: !up luke-jr_
decimation: ;;dict cult
gribble: wn: cult n 1: followers of an exclusive system of religious beliefs and practices 2: an interest followed with exaggerated zeal; "he always follows the latest fads"; "it was all the rage that season" [syn: {fad}, {craze}, {furor}, {furore}, {cult}, {rage}] 3: followers of an unorthodox, extremist, or false religion or sect who often live outside of conventional society under the (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: furore ? srsly ?
thickasthieves: TIL ;;dict
mircea_popescu: it's not even what it means.
luke-jr_: yeah, I was going to object to cult, but the dictionary says it's okay
timeaftertime: lets google danielpbarron
thickasthieves: logs link has a search
thickasthieves: also you can use !s in here and with assbot
thickasthieves: !s danielpbarron
assbot: 2226 results for 'danielpbarron' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=danielpbarron
thickasthieves: there, stalk away
mircea_popescu: im kinda curious what the mix of computer programming and neoprotestant fervor will yield.
mircea_popescu: i mean it did mate with rock to yield that xtian rock thingee
mircea_popescu: it's pretty fertile
timeaftertime: how about Luke-Jr
timeaftertime: hes a calvinist
Luke-Jr: no
thickasthieves: i had a christian punk band on my label in the 2000s
mircea_popescu: punk ?!
thickasthieves: yep
Luke-Jr: I'm Catholic
mircea_popescu: The Glam Nuns Band would be pretty rad.
thickasthieves: just melodic skater punk, not mohawkz and chainz
mircea_popescu: skanker punk is now punk ?!
thickasthieves: lol
thickasthieves: skateboarder
thickasthieves: cali style punk
timeaftertime: Darwin clearly does not believe anyone but Darwin Fish is faithfully teaching the truth of God's Word.
timeaftertime: that = cult
timeaftertime: http://carm.org/a-true-church
assbot: A True Church | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry
thickasthieves: there's actually a dedicated punk christain label
timeaftertime: i dont care
thickasthieves: Tooth & Nail Records
mircea_popescu: o look, http://carm.org/donation << no bitcoin
assbot: Partner With CARM | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry
mircea_popescu: !down timeaftertime
mircea_popescu: come back when you've fixed it.
Luke-Jr: timeaftertime: why link that heretical site?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23618 @ 0.00073752 = 17.4187 BTC [+]
nubbins`: groan
nubbins`: "time after time" is now in my head, notbad.jpg
thickasthieves: me too
nubbins`: ;;google time after time site:youtube.com
gribble: Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdQY7BusJNU>; The Voice UK 2014 Blind Auditions Sophie May Williams 'Time After ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8OH-LSwomY>; Eva Cassidy - Time After Time - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRoBiHzkXrI>
thickasthieves: such singalongability
nubbins`: sindy lopper
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdQY7BusJNU
assbot: Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time - YouTube
mircea_popescu: not bad.
nubbins`: sɪndi lawpər
nubbins`: her boyfriend does not like her new haircut
thickasthieves: some of the cover versions are pretty good too
thickasthieves: i dont remember this video at all, lol
Luke-Jr: well, he sure was boring
mircea_popescu: misguided dedication usually ends up that way
Duffer1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxLhytQ67fs
assbot: Cyndi Lauper - The Goonies 'R' Good Enough - YouTube
nubbins`: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2501480
assbot: A Diamond is Forever and Other Fairy Tales: The Relationship between Wedding Expenses and Marriage Duration by Andrew M. Francis, Hugo M. Mialon :: SSRN
kakobrekla: 20:21:35: <ehird> I hope asciilifeform open sources his FPGA flash disk card < heh, somewhere on irc, in 2009.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: he was probably talking about a gizmo i was considering building long ago - an esdi hard disk emulator (for use in ancient 'symbolics' lisp machine.)
kakobrekla: no need for that anymore eh
asciilifeform: the ancient hdd in these (such as my 3620) is always the most fragile part, being mechanical and very old (1986 in my case)
asciilifeform: still very much a need - for folks who really give a damn
Luke-Jr: kakobrekla: why not? it might still be interesting
asciilifeform: those 'fujutsu eagles' won't run forever.
asciilifeform: *fujitsu
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: nice, I spent $0 on marriage ;P
dub: you don't have a wife you have a slave
X-Rob: asciilifeform: they already exist.
asciilifeform: they do. golden toilet, cost $maxint.
dub: surprising luke and mp don't get along better
asciilifeform: and, last i tried to buy, wasn't even available where claimed.
BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/521864268959203328
assbot: Confirming that /newsweeklied is the legitimate legal defense fund for Dorian Nakamoto.cc: /ethankirschner, /aantonop
BingoBoingo: @aantonop Wait, you are the one with victims, but I am the troll? @DanielJonss @DorianSatoshi @newsweeklied @ethankirschner
mircea_popescu: nubbins` great paper lol
mircea_popescu: dub don't knock slavery as a domestic arrangement. beats any alternative.
X-Rob: asciilifeform: so now I'm intrigued and trying to find one myself, and ... you appear to be right
mircea_popescu: o look... i made a pun!
BingoBoingo: The truly scary thing is that as periperal as Andreas is... I think he has more fans than compromised Gavin and Hearn together.
BingoBoingo: Fuck astroturf is expensive
asciilifeform: X-Rob: there aren't all that many folks who actually want to -use- museum-grade machinery with any regularity.
asciilifeform: X-Rob: people mostly get by with ancient disks.
BingoBoingo: Or compact flash
X-Rob: asciilifeform: I'm a collector of old Z80 hardware.
BingoBoingo: generally plugs into IDE
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the whole discussion was a modern-flash to esdi adapter
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: no ide or scsi in these
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you're only computing one variable. his superficial fans aren't realyl worth all that much
X-Rob: ST-506 is the way to go
BingoBoingo: Wait, people use adapters and don't just cup their balls and ope shit works?
mircea_popescu: Dot TK is the only top level domain name registry that provides free domain names. Get your free domain name today, before it's gone.
mircea_popescu: uh.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: entirely different protocols. prior to modern-age ata and scsi, disk interfaces generally were more involved with the actual drive mechanics (head selection/motion, etc)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo you're only computing one variable. his superficial fans aren't realyl worth all that much << On this axis. I've met fans of his IRL which I can't understand.
asciilifeform: disks didn't really have on-board controllers as such. just an analogue amp.
nubbins`: free as in
X-Rob: http://www.pdp8.net/mfm/mfm.shtml
X-Rob: that appears to be the closest, asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well, worthless in any sense we'd care. obviously he can sell them shaving cream or w/e it is he does for a living.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well these are the sorts of fucktards that wear "please rob me" BTC t-shirts and slacks
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Are you using 1/8" or 1/4" plugs to talk to thise disks
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://www.harddrives-usa.com/files/thumbnail/m2263e.jpg
asciilifeform doesn't get the eight-inch reference here
mircea_popescu: "Mirror site if this site is slow highgate.comm.sfu.ca"
mircea_popescu: jesus remember the days pure html sites had problems with cpu usage ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: two ribbons.
X-Rob: asciilifeform: that's very very current stuff. 2 weeks old.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You see that's the mistake. Talk to every device as if the conversation is an accident. Use the auido plugs.
BingoBoingo: What is audio but undisciplined serial?
nubbins`: btc slacks!!
asciilifeform: i bet BingoBoingo built his own 'covox speechthing' clone in the '90s like the rest of us.
asciilifeform: original (which no one i know ever touched) --- http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Covox_Speech_Thing.jpg ; typical clone --- http://www.ferrit.fi/images/covox%20full.jpg
BingoBoingo didn't have computer till this century, simply shocked self with disposable camera capacitor and then got the point
ben_vulpes: <danielpbarron> proof of infection << now i want a coin with proof of infraction
asciilifeform: proof of infarction.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Wait, people made those in sufficient quantity to make labels?
X-Rob: asciilifeform: I played around with the Vortrax when I was a young bloke. That was a precursor to that I believe.
ben_vulpes: it was either going to be you or mircea_popescu, asciilifeform :P
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> <danielpbarron> proof of infection << now i want a coin with proof of infraction << artery, needle, glue
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'covox' was an actual product. and there was a similar item, 'disney sound source' (yes!)
BingoBoingo: WTF did I miss.
X-Rob: oooh, hang on
BingoBoingo: Now you're going to tell me fuckign Amiga actually outdid Macs and used a 6860 chip
X-Rob: is that the old crappy parallel-to-audio-out crappy sound thing?
asciilifeform: X-Rob: yes, precisely that one
X-Rob: bahahaha
X-Rob: I made one of them!
X-Rob: bunch of resistors and a parallel port
X-Rob: I was so happy.
kakobrekla: afaik resistor ladder dacs are still the shit these days
mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: mostly because by now they can be made within microohm
asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: there are not so many ways to do a dac.
kakobrekla: ^
ben_vulpes: ^
kakobrekla: just thought i would fit in
mats_cd03: ^
ben_vulpes: hey this is the wrong kind of dac for this channel
asciilifeform: http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1928/covox1.png << french built-in covox!
ben_vulpes: how can i dissipate max energy with other people's public keys, i ask you
BingoBoingo: Why did USB ever become a thing when microphone is much good nao
X-Rob: aww man that brings back me playing kings quest and leisure suite larry
X-Rob: with my computer MAKING REAL SOUNDS. IT was amazing.
asciilifeform: it was.
mircea_popescu: we should have a bot that processes BingoBoingo's last six lines and calculates his blood alcohol
asciilifeform: microphone << as a kid, i had some cassettes from my brother, who had bk-0010 at school. all i could do was throw them in a tape deck & listen.
X-Rob: asciilifeform: I have some kids. They're... 9 and 6. These kids will never know what it's like to not have internet. This AMAZES me.
asciilifeform: X-Rob: they might learn very soon...
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> !up PinkPosixPXE << now this is one of the better handle's i've seen lately
mircea_popescu: X-Rob like, remember back before dlh ? kids had to actually work for their gaming experience ?
X-Rob: asciilifeform: who's bombing whom?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ikr ?
asciilifeform: X-Rob: no need for nukefest, there are other variants.
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: Pfft. These bastards with their saves and retries and everything. When we lost our third life, we had to start again from world 1, level 1!
asciilifeform: (though nobody cancelled nukes)
ben_vulpes: !up PinkPosixPXE
X-Rob: Well if they could hold off for a while, I'm off to the US this week for a fortnight
ben_vulpes: you still around, PinkPosixPXE?
X-Rob: at least let me get back to australia
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> we should have a bot that processes BingoBoingo's last six lines and calculates his blood alcohol << Note how much controls along this axis have improved though
mircea_popescu: i struggled my entire childhood with captain comic
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4484 @ 0.00073687 = 3.3041 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/0cazxPOCcdQ/0.jpg
mircea_popescu: eventually finished it as an adult, playing with my also adult sister
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo true
mircea_popescu: ;;google captain comic
gribble: Captain Comic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Comic>; RGB Classic Games - Play The Adventures of Captain Comic online: <http://www.classicdosgames.com/online/ccomic5.html>; Captain Comics, Boise, ID | Comics, Cards, Games, Posters, Cards ...: <http://captain-comics.com/>
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web03/2010/2/16/13/how-to-prepare-a-kiwi-16649-1266343361-28.jpg
ben_vulpes: joke in url
asciilifeform: comic << lol, grandfather of 'commander keen'
mircea_popescu: mhm
mircea_popescu: stupid fucking lamp
mircea_popescu: and stupid fucking capslock teleport
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> im kinda curious what the mix of computer programming and neoprotestant fervor will yield. << have you met TempleOS yet?
mircea_popescu: 200 holes
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's just a spec i bet.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: came up here several times
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: for all his sin-sistience, mircea_popescu does miss things in the logs
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo true << I really can't blog drunk nao without excess effort and no golden toilets were purchased. FUKU NBC
ben_vulpes: templeos is esoteric enough to have slipped his radar
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: spec for carving kiwis, or a zealotous os?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i didn't miss templeos!
ben_vulpes: ;P
mircea_popescu: and a spec as in, spec of dust.
ben_vulpes rolls eyes
ben_vulpes: no srsly we run templeos in production
ben_vulpes: btcd on templeos
mircea_popescu: don't rolls your eyes at me, mista!
ben_vulpes doesn't even know if that's possible
ben_vulpes: maybe a spec
ben_vulpes: IN GODS EYE
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: templeos is nice if you know what to expect.
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZW0A3zFUTU
assbot: Captain Comic : Full walkthrough (PC Version) - YouTube
BingoBoingo: basically temple os offers an giant x86-64 box of sand.
BingoBoingo: And... nothing else.
ben_vulpes: <nubbins`> sindy lopper << sindy loper << a+++ would boot again
BingoBoingo: No sanity checks
BingoBoingo: No angels from heaven.
BingoBoingo: Pretty much temple os is the 40 years stumbling around the sainai
nubbins`: bed time
ben_vulpes: aw c'mon nubbins` it's only what 1130?
ben_vulpes: 2330?
cazalla: https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/521854456829186048
assbot: Confirming that /newsweeklied is the legitimate legal defense fund for Dorian Nakamoto.cc: /ethankirschner, /aantonop
cazalla: legitimate but now it may be a scam
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> o look... i made a pun! << had to look twice
ben_vulpes: can't tell if light logs or light fiatcorp workload
BingoBoingo: cazalla: he called me troll because I said true he spread malware
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: presumably in his mind, it somehow 'doesn't count' if you spread 'unknowingly' - just like spreading obola is 'unknowing' until satan signs your death certificate with the word
cazalla: BingoBoingo, he will be in town next month, perhaps i take the video camera for an exclusive
asciilifeform read 'newsweeklied' in the style of 'horst wessel lied' - should probably go to sleep
BingoBoingo: Fuck, even tradefartress at least pretended to be ashamed when he was "haxxed"
mircea_popescu: cazalla harassing dimwitted bums may be a waste of time
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: what to expect << i expect nothing, and so to be pleasantly surprised. is this a contradiction?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: No, we know you identify as dog. Kind of dog is import nao.
ben_vulpes: http://www.metmuseum.org/research/metpublications/Art_and_the_Empire_City_New_York_1825_1861 << tonight's reading
assbot: Art and the Empire City: New York, 1825–1861 | The Metropolitan Museum of Art
ben_vulpes: ;;ud garburator
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=garburator | garburator. A canadian word that involves garbage disposal through your kitchen sink! When you turn it on, it makes a loud grating noise and... bye bye garbage!
BingoBoingo: So I refuse to learn Andreas's last name. as a style guide is developed... Does Andreas the Greek work as a canonical term? Is it unambiguous enough?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50279 @ 0.00073537 = 36.9737 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: andreas nongrok ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24644 @ 0.0007343 = 18.0961 BTC [-]
thickasthieves: andreas monopolis
thickasthieves: teh greek
BingoBoingo also wonders what part of dead andreas doesn't understand since his own followers made it real
thickasthieves: probly the part where he's still breathing
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: You hear the story about the parent and the child. Their cat was pregnant, whole litter delivered dead. Child said "let's make crosses"
BingoBoingo: Once crosses were made child asks parent "Where are the nails?"
thickasthieves: fun kid
thickasthieves: andreas does bare the devil's peak
thickasthieves: http://i.imgur.com/BF4kg6u.jpg
BingoBoingo: As I heard the story out, the kittens were not crucified in the end
thickasthieves: probly for the best
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00073632 = 5.412 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73650 @ 0.00073411 = 54.0672 BTC [-] {4}
ben_vulpes: ditch freenode when
BingoBoingo: Some time
thickasthieves: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 400.01, Best ask: 400.77, Bid-ask spread: 0.76000, Last trade: 400.78, 24 hour volume: 25769.30867291, 24 hour low: 368.07, 24 hour high: 405.0, 24 hour vwap: 386.157670203
thickasthieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 36364528238.0 based on data since last change | 36750497181.1 based on data for last three days
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00073413 = 20.1886 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <thickasthieves> http://i.imgur.com/BF4kg6u.jpg
mircea_popescu: what the fuck wa sthat ?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11152 @ 0.0007343 = 8.1889 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: !up bitcoinik
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: I was going to ask that, and then I realised that I didn't want to know the answer.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8698 @ 0.0007376 = 6.4156 BTC [+]
thickasthieves: google found it
thickasthieves: it's for real
thickasthieves: here have another 2%
thickasthieves: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 406.05, Best ask: 407.93, Bid-ask spread: 1.88000, Last trade: 406.99, 24 hour volume: 26885.68621359, 24 hour low: 368.07, 24 hour high: 407.82, 24 hour vwap: 386.98702471
thickasthieves: going lolmode
xinxi: any options trader?
xinxi: ;;gettrust wangxinxi
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask xinxi!~xinxi@nusnet-185-15.dynip.nus.edu.sg. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user wangxinxi to user wangxinxi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=wangxinxi&dest=wangxinxi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=wangxinxi | Rated since: Mon Oct 13 16:19:46 2014
xinxi: is there any options trader?
RagnarDanneskjol: lol @ mp's rating
xinxi: is it funny?
RagnarDanneskjol: not laughing @ you xinxi - just the comment left in your otc rating
xinxi: yah, he is a humorous guy.
RagnarDanneskjol: I assume you are asking if anyone here offers options trading?
xinxi: yes
RagnarDanneskjol: there are no more options on mpex to be clear: http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/
assbot: MPOE, February 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00073454 = 14.1032 BTC [-]
xinxi: the volume is not bad.
thickasthieves: was
RagnarDanneskjol: you might find individuals willing to do p2p options contrcts
xinxi: That’s interesting, but how to deal with the collateral thing?
xinxi: use an existing escrow?
RagnarDanneskjol: sure thats one way to do it
xinxi: thickasthieves, can I know more recent volume?
thickasthieves: it no longer exists
xinxi: I am just wondering what happend to MPOE? it used to be good.
RagnarDanneskjol: it is explained in the article above
RagnarDanneskjol: you might find this site helpful for market data: http://www.btcalpha.com/
assbot: Btc Alpha - Analysis tools for bitcoin finance.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18922 @ 0.00073571 = 13.9211 BTC [+] {3}
xinxi: I see.
xinxi: it’s a pitty.
xinxi: the volatility of bitcoin is too high
xinxi: building a vanilla options exchange is really quite risky.
RagnarDanneskjol: indeed
mircea_popescu: xinxi what options are you trying to write ?
xinxi: i am building an options exchange actually.
xinxi: but as vanilla opitons are too risky. I am right now focusing on binary options.
mircea_popescu: there's about a dozen scammy sites trying to get that working in bitcoin
xinxi: yeah, i know.
mircea_popescu: there's about five hundred dozen scammy sites trying to get that working in fiat, for that matter.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason binary options aren't used in finance.
xinxi: yeah, right. I know the situation.
mircea_popescu: so then ?
xinxi: the binary options provided by them are OTC traded.
xinxi: that makes them gambling sites.
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/1056/bitcoin-to-drop-under-200-before-december/ << there, that's a binary option ☟︎
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $200 before December :: 2.03 B (16%) on Yes, 10.9 B (84%) on No | closing in 1 week 17 hours | weight: 79`475 (100`000 to 50`000)
mircea_popescu: in its proper place, ie, a gambling site.
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/ << that's probably the recoird holding btc binary option to date.
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xinxi: yeah, but i want to change the situation by building a fair exhcange.
mircea_popescu: what makes you think you're the guy to do that ?
xinxi: a place some one can trade using the black-schole models.
xinxi: yes, good question.
xinxi: i have been trading for more than 7 years.
xinxi: and I am a phd in computer science.
RagnarDanneskjol: o.0
RagnarDanneskjol: so what's your gameplan?
xinxi: I am also a honest person that people can trust, but i know this is hard to prove.
mircea_popescu: it's not hard to prove at all.
mircea_popescu: ;;ident xinxi
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'xinxi', with hostmask 'xinxi!~xinxi@nusnet-185-15.dynip.nus.edu.sg', is identified as user 'wangxinxi', with GPG key id 331894345B459329, key fingerprint EE5C4780D0955B8E25CF2667331894345B459329, and bitcoin address None
xinxi: …i know that I did not trade using bitcoin-otc.
xinxi: thta’s why i did not get many ratings.
mircea_popescu: looky, point remains : you're young, you're smart, you wanna do something. that's fine. you're in no position to evaluate what's worth doing and what isn't, and are currently solipsistically proceeding towards something that's not worth doing.
mircea_popescu: your best move is to actually read the log, not like people don't get things to do all the time, that's actually worth doing
mircea_popescu: nanotube could the defaults on viewratingdetail.php be sorted by time rather than by rate'rs total point count ? it kinda pointlessly emphasises a meaningless measure, as-is.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 162 @ 0.09360999 = 15.1648 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: ;;seen sgornick
gribble: sgornick was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 16 hours, 51 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <sgornick> > Bitcoin are B⃦, ฿, and Ƀ. <--- Which do you prefer?
xinxi: mp, I’m a bit suprised that you see so many things from me in such as short conversation.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell sgornick you ever got a hold of cazalla in the end ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: xinxi all the things you don't say are informative. i'm a mage of silences.
xinxi: brilliant. but how do you know it’s not worth doing? is there any evidence for that?
mircea_popescu: well that's where it becomes complicated.
mircea_popescu: for you, i imagine not.
gabriel_laddel: xinxi: if you don't mind my asking, where did you get your phd from, what is your favorite programming language(s) and why?
xinxi: National University of Singapore. it’s the best school of Singapore.
xanthyos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDXUDehUgIQ
assbot: Sara X Does Mozarts Eine kleine Nachtmusik - YouTube
xinxi: my favorite programming language is C++, because that’s what I learnt when I was in my high school.
xinxi: mp, I very much want to know your point.
mircea_popescu: anyone seen the man who wasn't there ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: coen bros.
RagnarDanneskjol: yes
mircea_popescu: xinxi look, proof is a problem of the observer. i listed two major counts : one that it never went anywhere before, the other that it's already done, by bitbet. neither of these impressed you.
RagnarDanneskjol: billybob gives me the creeps
mircea_popescu: this means you're not particularly looking for evidence, you're moreover chasing a vision or w/e they call daydreaming these days.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol excellent film that.
RagnarDanneskjol: not too shabby
mircea_popescu: i was like, having prop bets while watching it. "does he fuck the teenager"
mircea_popescu: "is casper coming back"
mircea_popescu: etc
RagnarDanneskjol: heh
RagnarDanneskjol: xinxi - there was a pretty decent case study summarized in the february statement
mircea_popescu: where is that write-up, with the intellectuals
RagnarDanneskjol: you're on it
mircea_popescu: lol no, 1930s
RagnarDanneskjol: ahh
mircea_popescu: http://taoyue.com/stacks/articles/brilliant-men.html
assbot: From the Stacks: Why I Never Hire Brilliant Men | TaoYue.com
mircea_popescu: here we go. course meanwhile wiipedia, reddit and the rest of the charade stoile it.
mircea_popescu: but anyway : "I was flattered by his interest, so I thought it over. That is, I indulged in what young men frequently mistake for thought. In imagination, I saw my name over the door and myself in a fine glass office looking out and watching clerks taking in money. I had, in anticipation, the thrill of buying one store after another and going from town to town on tours of inspection. I tickled my fancy with the idea of
mircea_popescu: coming back to college and letting the boys consult me as an experienced man of affairs. And having finished this process of “thinking” I wired Carroll that I was ready to join him."
xinxi: RagnarDanneskjol - yeah for vanilla options, it is too risky, but I don’t see any problem with binary options technically.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00073936 = 2.9574 BTC [+]
xinxi: I think there is somekind of bias in the article about the phds.
mircea_popescu: of course there is. but that bias isn't my point.
xinxi: when I do research, I do not look for excitement.
mircea_popescu: my point is merely that throughout a man's lifetime, his thought process is and remains flawed.
xinxi: i solve problems, not matter how simple the method I use.
mircea_popescu: the only thing that changes is the flavour.
xinxi: right, human see what they want to see.
mircea_popescu: brain isn't made for thinking, after all.
mircea_popescu: we just use it that way.
xinxi: that’s an interesting point.
xinxi: Thanks to all of you for the suggestions.
xinxi: I actually have built the exchange.
mircea_popescu: i'd have expected no less.
xinxi: The address is https://coinut.com
xinxi: you are welcome to criticise.
mircea_popescu: i guess utbit'd have been a worse choice.
RagnarDanneskjol: the site looks nice xinxi
xinxi: RagnarDanneskjol - Thanks. I just saw you registered.
xinxi: any criticism?
RagnarDanneskjol: I'm going through it - will get back later
punkman: 'ello
xinxi: Oh, man, thanks a lot.
RagnarDanneskjol: you might want to try this bcauth login made by Azelphur at some point - https://github.com/Azelphur/django-bcauth
assbot: Azelphur/django-bcauth GitHub
RagnarDanneskjol: punkman - how goes the deed project?
xinxi: Thanks. It looks quite interesting to me.
xinxi: I need to go for lunch, ttyl.
xinxi: This is a truely nice place.
punkman: RagnarDanneskjol: almost there, but all the moving parts with threads due to supybot/electrum make my head hurt
mircea_popescu: punkman what's electrum doing ?
mircea_popescu: o the wallet ?
punkman: yeah
RagnarDanneskjol: yea - much better than api
RagnarDanneskjol: not as good as daemon tho
RagnarDanneskjol: still - it'll do
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 95 @ 0.09995368 = 9.4956 BTC [+] {4}
punkman: mircea_popescu: about those bbet shares, can they be delivered in a year or something? don't want to let them evaporate via coinbr fees just yet
mircea_popescu: i think this should be ok, yeah,
mircea_popescu: this may be the first time in history someone asks to have shares tranferrred into warrants o.O
punkman: seems like the only sensible option at this time
cazalla: mircea_popescu, he has not been back since he mentioned the feed
cazalla: i left him a note anyway, i'm sure he will see it eventually
gabriel_laddel: !s crazy shit stick no reason
assbot: 0 results for 'crazy shit stick no reason' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=crazy+shit+stick+no+reason
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21111 @ 0.0007387 = 15.5947 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35150 @ 0.00073973 = 26.0015 BTC [+] {2}
gabriel_laddel: xinxi: inital impressions of your service: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xz45zSPZ ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18723 @ 0.0007411 = 13.8756 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: so many wallets being released
penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/coins-ph-launches-bitcoin-wallet-for-emerging-markets/
cazalla: https://twitter.com/maxkeiser/status/521759512102207488
assbot: Unlike Bitcoin, Gold or Silver - - - StartCOIN (when held at /StartJOIN) pays diviends EVERY WEEK. Currently ann. rate = 34%
cazalla: i guess maxcoin has run its course
RagnarDanneskjol: lulz
cazalla: maybe he lost his bitcoins, i can't imagine why someone would promote this shit otherwise
xanthyos: he's against gold and silver now too?
xanthyos: max keiser just promotes the agenda of the highest bidder
davout: good morning!
RagnarDanneskjol: ahoy
xanthyos: ever think about what max keiser and stacy herbert look like when they're fucking?
xanthyos: you are now.
davout: nice try
jurov: ;;calc 0.019*12
gribble: 0.228
jurov: ;;calc 10000*0.0003
gribble: 3.0
jurov: punkman not exactly evaporating. and upcoming divs should make up for it
punkman: jurov, oic I missed a zero there
punkman: seemed more like 50%
punkman: !t m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00036 / 0.00036 / 0.00036 (1 shares, 0.00 BTC)
jurov: $depth s.bbet
empyex: jurov: [S.BBET] Bids: 100 @ 0.00035100 13590 @ 0.00035000 50 @ 0.00020000 5000 @ 0.00014000
empyex: jurov: [S.BBET] Asks: 2000 @ 0.00049000 10000 @ 0.00049950 9000 @ 0.00050850 5000 @ 0.00050899
punkman: oh 4.9btc on the other end, sweet
punkman: I should put more features in the thing
RagnarDanneskjol: what thing
punkman: bitbet calculator thing
punkman: I've only heard from one user so far, and kako using it to ddos himself
RagnarDanneskjol: hmm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00074035 = 6.8112 BTC [-]
jurov: $vwap s.mpoe
empyex: jurov: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00073835 high: 0.00074368 low: 0.00073409 volume: 1725584 btc: 1274.0802329 7 day: average: 0.00073989 high: 0.00074875 low: 0.00073409 volume: 6100751 btc: 4513.85881377 30 day: average: 0.00074652 high: 0.0007685 low: 0.00073409 volume: 22540649 btc: 16827.02219652
jurov: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00073409 / 0.00073834 / 0.00074368 (1725584 shares, 1,274.08 BTC), 7D: 0.00073409 / 0.00073988 / 0.00074875 (6100751 shares, 4,513.86 BTC), 30D: 0.00073409 / 0.00074651 / 0.0007685 (22540649 shares, 16,827.02 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00074105 = 13.9317 BTC [+]
jurov: good we have two. yet better they don't diverge.
xinxi: is there any body still here?
cazalla: xinxi, it is usually quiet around this time
xinxi: i guess there are seldom any people from GMT+8.
cazalla: a few +10 like myself but not many
RagnarDanneskjol: cazalla - you in melbourne?
cazalla: RagnarDanneskjol, yup
RagnarDanneskjol: or however you spell it - ok
RagnarDanneskjol: know any good local btc traders - I have a newb might need a hookup...jewelery dealer
xinxi: oh, I like melbourne. the chinese foods there are good.
cazalla: RagnarDanneskjol, none that i can recommend
RagnarDanneskjol: ahh k. whats the big exchange then?
RagnarDanneskjol: coinjar? i think
xinxi: I also camped there during the winter and when it’s raining and windy.
cazalla: RagnarDanneskjol, coinjar costs an extra 10% now, there is cointree.com.au although i have not used them, a few people on localbitcoins
xinxi: the exchange commission fee and wire fee in australia is bloody high as far as I know.
RagnarDanneskjol: oh yea - forgot I heard the 10% madness. hmm - will look into localbtc for him then
cazalla: i guess you can use circle, that is what i'm using now, i just transfer the coins out immediately
RagnarDanneskjol: Oh - didnt kknow they were international yet
cazalla: circle is cheaper than coinjar
RagnarDanneskjol: cool
cazalla: they are iffy on australian credit cards, some people report luck, others not
RagnarDanneskjol: hmm
cazalla: that bitcoin group will do cash buys over $5,000 otc in their office
RagnarDanneskjol: ok cool
xinxi: cazalla university of melbourne and ANU, which one is better?
xinxi: my wife is going to study there next year.
cazalla: nfi, i didn't finish school let alone attend uni
cazalla: probably both full of marxists cunts though, they are everywhere down here
xinxi: …
RagnarDanneskjol: haha
xinxi: why does it sound like racism to me?
cazalla: because asians come here and play the victim all the time, i dunno
RagnarDanneskjol: nothin racist about it - philosophist maybe
Azelphur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2odOu0Oguo linked for relevance :P
assbot: Community Clip - Troy & Jeff talk racism/football - YouTube
cazalla: xinxi, did i offend you?
xinxi: yeah, a little bit, because my wife is going to study there.
xinxi: she is a very nice person.
Azelphur: Didn't go to uni or finish high school here, no need to hate people that do
cazalla: i don't doubt that but as we say down under, you both might need to harden the fuck up if what i said upset you
Azelphur: Education system works for some, and doesn't for others, etc
RagnarDanneskjol: I love the HTFU guy
Azelphur: RagnarDanneskjol: HTFU guy?
cazalla: Azelphur, i didn't even say anything hateful or racist
cazalla: Azelphur, at least not until he accused me of doing so, i'd hate to disappoint
cazalla: Azelphur, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y
assbot: Ronnie Johns - Chopper - Harden the Fuck Up - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00073892 = 17.3277 BTC [-] {3}
Azelphur: cazalla: you remind me of a schoolkid chanting "Aww you gonna cry" repeatedly, while you just look at him thinking "what...what is wrong with you?"
RagnarDanneskjol: exactly- - thats the point - aussies are tough as shit - I imagine the schoolyard bullies there make any others look like pansies
Azelphur: lol
xinxi: Anyway, I don’t worry about that much. as when I went to AU, I saw most people are pretty nice there.
cazalla: sounds like the right attitude when visiting
xinxi: but it’s no the right attitude when working or studying there?
cazalla: xinxi, did you enjoy your time here? everyone says aussies are nice people yet say we're all racist, it's just a misunderstanding
cazalla: for example, we call our friends (mates) cunts and blokes that want a bit of biff (cunt) a mate these days
xinxi: yes, i did enjoy my time there. most people are quite kind hearted.
RagnarDanneskjol: should have everyone watch a ronnie johns orientation video upon entering the country
xinxi: i see. cunt is usually forbitten in the US.
punkman: !search .bait
assbot: 804 results for '.bait' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=.bait
cazalla: RagnarDanneskjol, pretty much, it would avoid people like Azelphur getting the wrong impression
cazalla: cunt is sorta like our version of nigga, you can call friends cunts but you wouldn't go up to some random and say what's up cunt
cazalla: unless he really was a cunt, then you would call him mate and ask if he wanted to punch on
punkman: lol
RagnarDanneskjol: yea - that one still throws me offf everytime I hear it, guess i need to htfu
punkman: ;;rate [ident cazalla] 1 bunny killer | qntra.net chief
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user cazalla has been recorded.
punkman: !ticker
assbot: Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
punkman: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 400.06, Best ask: 402.28, Bid-ask spread: 2.22000, Last trade: 402.28, 24 hour volume: 31128.94064742, 24 hour low: 373.87, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 394.085107692
cazalla: assbot is racist too
penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/unofficial-is-site-shut-down-seeks-bitcoin-donations/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64400 @ 0.00073865 = 47.5691 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00074118 = 16.4542 BTC [+] {3}
RagnarDanneskjol: ;;rate cazalla 1 dinky-di cunt
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user cazalla has been recorded.
xanthyos: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz5dvsGIEAEbckD.jpg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32600 @ 0.00073941 = 24.1048 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: was it said anywhere what will be s.qntr revenue source? iirc ads and affilitare links were ruled out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26367 @ 0.00073924 = 19.4915 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23283 @ 0.00073733 = 17.1673 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00073693 = 12.0488 BTC [-]
RagnarDanneskjol: "To that, I say, the website’s profitability is in no way, shape, or form your business or your problem. Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’kno
RagnarDanneskjol: w?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not get
RagnarDanneskjol: ting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your prob
RagnarDanneskjol: lem is when you do, y’know?" - pete
RagnarDanneskjol: oops
mats_cd03: dafuq?
mats_cd03: https://soundcloud.com/ntrlanml/waiting-for-another-single
assbot: SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds
mats_cd03: !s uninformed
assbot: 20 results for 'uninformed' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=uninformed
mats_cd03: http://li5-186.members.linode.com
assbot: Uninformed - vol 10
mats_cd03: an excellent RE, security zine
mats_cd03: http://poppedmusic.co.uk/2014/10/09/just-listen-ed-prosek-hold-on-tight
assbot: Just Listen: Ed Prosek – Hold On Tight | poppedmusic
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27847 @ 0.00073644 = 20.5076 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: fucking freenode.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mist you work with random security outfits that can't handle "thousands of incoming freenoders" and get raped by nsa on a regular basis but you won't talk to the people that eat nsa for lunch. why so derpy already ?!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: i suppose in retrospect the answer is, as it is usually the case, contained in the question.
RagnarDanneskjol: heh
jurov: RagnarDanneskjol was that an answer to my q?
RagnarDanneskjol: yes -sticky keys
RagnarDanneskjol: from pete's article
mircea_popescu: !up G________
xinxi: I announced my site here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=821889.0
assbot: [ANN] Coinut.com - Bitcoin Options Exchange
xinxi: and got a reply: the fact you got a username that could be seen making you a chinese scammer
xinxi: makes me think hell no will you ever seen 1 Satoshi of my money
xinxi: i'm sorry but noone will risk money with you
mircea_popescu: !s tardstalk
assbot: 34 results for 'tardstalk' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tardstalk
mircea_popescu: you know..
mircea_popescu: ;;notes
gribble: I currently have notes waiting for BlueMeanie4, Daniel_Krawisz, davidldubuc, DTdirk, indolering, JuliaTourianski, Michael1, mist, normalra, nubbins, perdent, princessnell, ragmondo, RPrpRP, sgarnick, sgornick, tbz1, tweeeaks, usagi, wywialm, and Zerock.
jurov: xinxi have you replied to gabriel_laddel's review?
mircea_popescu: jurov you sent it to sgarnick or sgornick ?
mircea_popescu: ;;notes sgarnick
gribble: Sent 4 days, 15 hours, and 23 minutes ago: <cazalla> send me a pm when you're online, been trying a day with no luck
xinxi: where is the review?
mircea_popescu: lmao cazalla you noob...
jurov: !s gabriel_laddel pastebin
assbot: 0 results for 'gabriel_laddel pastebin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=gabriel_laddel+pastebin
jurov: sux
mircea_popescu: xinxi http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-10-2014#872382 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-10-2014 08:02:28; gabriel_laddel: xinxi: inital impressions of your service: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xz45zSPZ
mircea_popescu: you gotta read the logs eh.
jurov: xinxi writer not reader!
xinxi: Oh, this review is wonderful.
mircea_popescu: assbot: Unlike Bitcoin, Gold or Silver - - - StartCOIN (when held at /StartJOIN) pays diviends EVERY WEEK. Currently ann. rate = 34% <<< that's one way to sell the entire demurage thing
xinxi: I did not expect people will write such a detailed review.
G________: Hey all, super n00b here - sorry. I am trying to verify with gribble, not sure what to do with the challenge string.
mircea_popescu: cazalla: maybe he lost his bitcoins, i can't imagine why someone would promote this shit otherwise << i don't think you understand max keiser. this is what he does.
mircea_popescu: G________ put it into gpg.
mircea_popescu: !s first steps wiki
assbot: 33 results for 'first steps wiki' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=first+steps+wiki
G________: Yea I read that, it says it provides a URL - http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets
assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]
jurov: G________: more specifically, download it and decrypt
mircea_popescu: xanthyos: you are now. << they aren't fucking tho.
mircea_popescu: jurov: good we have two. yet better they don't diverge. <<< b-a is apparently not short of miracles i tell you.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51900 @ 0.00073744 = 38.2731 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: xinxi: she is a very nice person. << well as long as she's not a marxist should be fine ?
xinxi: she does not even know what marxist is.
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: how old is she ?
xinxi: 23
mircea_popescu: how is this possible ?!
xinxi: … girls don’t like politics. you know
mircea_popescu: i don't know. i know least about china than about most things
xinxi: that’s understandable.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, give a look to http://mpex.bz/faq_cn.html tell me how bad is it ?
xinxi: it’s not too bad.
xinxi: at least it’s comprensible.
xinxi: comprehensible
mircea_popescu: aha
xinxi: I can see it’s not translated using google
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46614 @ 0.00073793 = 34.3979 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: well no, som guy did it.
xinxi: yah, I can see the difference.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't expect it to the fifth classic, but, generally, how does chinese classify as far as the native speaker is concerned ?
xinxi: If you want to show this to a chinese native speaker, it’s better to improve it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00073651 = 20.9169 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i'm more curious for my own intellectual pursuit
xinxi: I can feel many parts were just literally translated from english.
mircea_popescu: what's the impression that generally gives ? ridiculous ? annoying ?
xinxi: it feels a bit stiff.
mircea_popescu: boy i gotta say i love gabriel_laddel's style lol. linking to raw text, stars and tubes and shit.
mircea_popescu: "you do this how exactly? the interface runs in the browser but is written in C++? do you know something that I don't?" << cgi-bin baby! it's been there since before php was even invented.
mircea_popescu: exactly for this reason too
xinxi: yeah, it’s a cgi program.
xinxi: mp, do you do IT?
mircea_popescu: xinxi you know that's not without its own problems.
mircea_popescu: i only do it in the sense of managing people who do.
xinxi: ok.
xinxi: yes, cgi does have issues.
xinxi: it’s more difficult to maintain and requires compile.
xinxi: but usually, it’s much much faster than php.
mats_cd03: ;;market buy 1000
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 410231.4869 USD and would take the last price up to 415.0900 USD, resulting in an average price of 410.2315 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0431 seconds
mats_cd03: ;;market buy 10000
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 4485257.6709 USD and would take the last price up to 526.3000 USD, resulting in an average price of 448.5258 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 8.1685 seconds
mats_cd03: ;;market buy 50000
gribble: Bitstamp | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 23550.527 bitcoins, for a total of 18333428.3555 USD and take the price to 99999.9900. | Data vintage: 19.2906 seconds
jurov: xinxi security should be much bigger concern here than speed
xinxi: right.
xinxi: so I use a page to explain that.
xinxi: https://coinut.com/security
xinxi: do you have any suggestions on that?
mircea_popescu: xinxi: i see. cunt is usually forbitten in the US. << i hope you've not bitten any.
mircea_popescu: shit hurts.
jurov: in my experience it is more about stuf like meticulously checking your input (such as no negative numbers,. broken unicode, sql metacharacters, etc.)
mircea_popescu: it's c after all. it invented the stack smash
jurov: that must be helluva work in C++
mircea_popescu: "here is my ten line c program that does something, here are the 45479586947 lines which make sure it doesn't do something else"
xinxi: right, there are quite limited number of inputs. I double checked all the input data and make sure that they are right before they are sent to the database.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28325 @ 0.00073804 = 20.905 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: cazalla: assbot is racist too << lmao. leave britney alone!
xinxi: mp, as he explained, it’s OK. but I was quite suprised I can meet people like that here before his explanation.
mircea_popescu: this place is different from pretty much anything you could have seen before
rithm: i poop'd
mircea_popescu: jurov: was it said anywhere what will be s.qntr revenue source? iirc ads and affilitare links were ruled out << well, a venue like that can be supported by subscription or advertising. leaning more towards subscription core with an advertising supported outreach, but it's really much too soon.
mircea_popescu: rithm pics or it didn't happen.
rithm: what is a coinut
rithm: oh apparently it's an option exchange
xinxi: haha
rithm: does it cost 30 BTC to sign up?
xinxi: no, you don’t need any to sign up.
thickasthieves: only once it's hacked
rithm inserts tokens
thickasthieves: lol this Chopper guy is pretty funny
mircea_popescu: it can't be hacked, it's in c. says so on the /security page.
xinxi: coinut is some kind of nuts made from bitcoins.
mircea_popescu: ;;google you've got two coinuts and you're banging them together
gribble: March 2014 - Huckleberries Online - Spokesman.com: <http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/hbo/2014/mar/>; Australian Govt. form asks if I own any Bitcoin of Cryptocurrency ...: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=798030.0;all>; Up The Ante to Shut Down the Stampede – No More Dead Horses ...: <http://profanexistence.com/2014/07/11/up-the-anti-to-shut-down-the-stampede-no-more- (1 more message)
rithm: i could go for a nice coinut sammich right now
mircea_popescu: why is gribble's google so scammy ? i get http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHFXG3r_0B8 on the 2nd spot in google.
assbot: Monty Python-Coconuts - YouTube
thickasthieves: maybe google has assbot profiled
rithm: twitter bootstrap, godaddy ssl, c++ backend
rithm: what cotuld go wrong amir
xinxi: mp, i did not mention it’s c so it’s not going to be hacked.
kakobrekla: you just did!
xinxi: but our system is distributed, hacking the web program doesn’t make you rich.
mircea_popescu: well now that depends.
xinxi: I did mention it’s c. but i did not claim the causality.
kakobrekla: a ok
xinxi: yeah, it depends, but it’s harder to hack.
rithm: telling this channel it's not going to be hacked is like asking for a free pentest
thickasthieves: not a bad deal
mircea_popescu: i've heard worse
xinxi: actually many people have tried to hack it. :-)
mircea_popescu: speaking of worse deals : to counteract what they call "inflation" but is moreover a very drastic "batten down the hatches" middle class response, which sent durable goods tumbling 70%!!!!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46500 @ 0.00073633 = 34.2393 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: argentine govt came up with a "buy anything on 12 months' time without interest, using your cc" plan
kakobrekla: <xinxi> actually many people have tried to hack it. :-) < any btc service that holds more than 10 btc is getting 'hack' attempts all day every day
BingoBoingo: Can anyone else see qntra this morning or is every one else seeing our page as suspended by the host?
mircea_popescu: their idea being that getting locals to use ccs more instead of cash will be worthwhile on the long term.
mircea_popescu: if this country doesn't go bankrupt and with food riots in 2015 you may call me names.,
rithm: Account Suspended
rithm: This Account Has Been Suspended
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo shit what happened there ?
Apocalyptic: same here BingoBoingo
kakobrekla: lol!
mircea_popescu: mine's kjust not loading
punkman: too much traffics!11
xinxi: yeah, as a computer scientist, I pretty much enjoy watching them hacking my system.
mircea_popescu: whoa srsly ?
Apocalyptic: BingoBoingo, where are you hosting this ?
rithm: /cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi () { }; bash -c 'true <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF <<EOF' ||
rithm: echo "CVE-2014-7186 vulnerable, redir_stack"
rithm: i'm just joshing you
Apocalyptic: dat haxor
rithm: wasn't it funny
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Cazalla is hosting it, I don't have panel access
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo look in your mail, i made you an account, should be fine.
xinxi: not bad.
mircea_popescu: move it there asap.
thickasthieves: ;;isitup qntra.net
gribble: Error: "isitup" is not a valid command.
thickasthieves: ;;isitdown qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is up
thickasthieves: i get Account Suspended
rithm: i've got a root shell!
kakobrekla: USG is after you!
kakobrekla: i guess it was NASA.
mircea_popescu: rithm shitty host eh.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do you have cazalla phone# ?
thickasthieves: bingo, btw, my page load issue never relaly disappeared
Apocalyptic: rithm, you're trolling right ?
rithm: don't hack me bro
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo do you have cazalla phone# ? << no
rithm: pick up the mouse and say hello Cazalla
xinxi: rithm, are you really checking my site?
mircea_popescu: well so get it, you're in such diff timezones you can do 100% coverage, gotta be able to talk
rithm: why would i do that am i being paid right now
rithm: you guys need to call your system administrati
xinxi: i am the admin
rithm: maybe change your dropbox password too amirite
xinxi: that sounds a good suggestion.
rithm: BingoBoingo didn't qntra basically scrape other sites
BingoBoingo: rithm: Not at all, all original writing
rithm: oh ok
rithm: i thought you wer scraping away all the pretty from coindesk and plaigarizing it as your own
rithm: boy was a mistaken
rithm: *i
chetty: I wouldnt be surprised qntra got ddosed
rithm: that might've happened
thickasthieves: you get ddos, we suspend account, tyfyb
kakobrekla: they would take the ip offline then
rithm: 8 year old botfarm ops ddos for fun these dyas i hear
kakobrekla: not show 'suspended page'
rithm: i agree with kakobrekla
thickasthieves: i assume this is insecure, but it's so tiny! https://www.hardwarewallet.com/
assbot: HardwareWallet.com - Secure USB smart card based wallet for crypto-currencies
rithm: what TOS did you violate BingoBoingo!?!
BingoBoingo: I imagint thickasthieves is right, got DOS, got suspend
Apocalyptic: <kakobrekla> they would take the ip offline then // not if it's a shared hosting setup
chetty: next article ...how we got ddosed in our first week ..
thickasthieves: maybe if they were a little nicer to their commenters!
thickasthieves: ;)
mircea_popescu: how about not.
thickasthieves: who cant love a site that tells self-important commenters to eat a dick?
mircea_popescu: people that need to eat some dicks ?
thickasthieves: goes great with a pound of clits i bet
mircea_popescu: ideally taken off virgin cunts.
mircea_popescu: imagine, thousands of girls that'll never know lesbianism.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo look in your mail, i made you an account, should be fine. << Still awaiting mail delivery
mircea_popescu: uhm
mats_cd03: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 398.05, Best ask: 398.93, Bid-ask spread: 0.88000, Last trade: 398.03, 24 hour volume: 30190.14237715, 24 hour low: 373.87, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 396.186816381
thickasthieves: time to recharge
thickasthieves: that was a lot of up
thickasthieves: i slept about 45m last night
chetty: why so long?
thickasthieves: my body forced me
thickasthieves: only slept a couple the night before
kakobrekla: btcusd keeps you up?
thickasthieves: yeah, i'm on insane hot streak
kakobrekla: cool
mircea_popescu: i thought you were short ?
thickasthieves: i was, til 276
thickasthieves: then went long
thickasthieves: now i'm short again
thickasthieves: playing the waves
mircea_popescu: lol cool.
thickasthieves: you know you IRC too much when you think selecting text anywhere copies it
mod6: heh
mircea_popescu: you can set your system to do that
mircea_popescu: !s Bitcoin_Eric
assbot: 1 results for 'Bitcoin_Eric' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Bitcoin_Eric
chetty: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/10/12/imf-austerity-is-much-worse-for-the-economy-than-we-thought/
assbot: IMF: Austerity is much worse for the economy than we thought - The Washington Post
mircea_popescu: chetty heh.
mircea_popescu: "austerity is bad for bezzle, news at 11"
chetty: :P
chetty: http://jacksonville.com/breaking-news/2014-10-13/story/ruck-containing-36000-pounds-crisco-stolen-florida
assbot: Truck containing 36,000 pounds of Crisco stolen in Florida | jacksonville.com
mircea_popescu: ha! tide!
chetty: crisco might be better to trade at that :)
mircea_popescu: fun fact : crisco was invented in order to broaden the supply base for soap production
chetty: next should be clorox
asciilifeform: http://www.retronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/233.jpg
asciilifeform: ^
mats_cd03: wat
asciilifeform: re: fat.
mats_cd03: wut -- fat bomb?
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 margerine (which is what all this crap is) is made by random esterification of various vegetable oils. results in longer chains, which are technically triglicerides
mircea_popescu: but becauise the process is random, a good chunk of them are innovative, which is to say, not found in nature
mircea_popescu: how their digestion works in humans is mostly a matter of chance
mircea_popescu: which i guess brings the side point for all the latter day big pharma purists : you oppose monsanto's genetic novelties ? how about margerine ?
chetty: down with both
mats_cd03: i'm a big fan of monsanto.
mircea_popescu: in other news, eat linoleum!
mircea_popescu: it's a great rug replacement, too!
asciilifeform will probably eat linoleum before this is through
kakobrekla: this?
chetty: asciilifeform, go for the shoe leather first, safer
asciilifeform: boil accordeon first, traditionally, then belt, then shoes.
asciilifeform knows procedures
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: shit, someone should make a restaurant like that.
mircea_popescu: only desperation meals served.
mircea_popescu: "boiled acordeon, for 12"
asciilifeform: call it 'blokada'
mircea_popescu: definitely. блокада
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16758 @ 0.00073804 = 12.3681 BTC [+]
chetty: I do wonder if the ebola panic will disrupt the jit delivery system - that could get ugly
mircea_popescu: only austerity is bad
mats_cd03: a good time to be vegetarian
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 i thought vegetarians had more needs on a distribution network than normal people
mats_cd03: why would that be?
mircea_popescu: which accounts for why it only appeared after the industrial revolution made everything cheap and abundant
mats_cd03: meat spoils faster than dried goods.
mats_cd03: tell that to india.
mircea_popescu: india is vegetarian nao ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, every curry i ever had was meat based
mats_cd03: they're still poor, so they're mostly vegetarian, yes
mircea_popescu: i doubt you seriously are proposing starvation diets as your model.
mats_cd03: i dunno.
mircea_popescu: vegetarianism as a chosen lifestyle != vegetarianism as a path towards untimely death.
chetty: you get hungry enough you wont care what the source of the calories is
mats_cd03: i have 40 pounds of quinoa and 40 pounds of lentils
mats_cd03: for zombie apocalypse, etc.
mircea_popescu: oic
mircea_popescu: lol
mats_cd03: and a kindle with a hand-cranked microusb charger!
mats_cd03: if i had to, i'm prepared to single handedly rebuild some modicum of civilization.
mircea_popescu: wow those'd be so cute. do they exist ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform remember the russian dynamo-flashlights ?
mircea_popescu: light-and-labour ?
mircea_popescu: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_kw=Russian+Zip+Flashlight 20 bux on ebay hah
assbot: Russian Zip Flashlight | eBay
mats_cd03: http://www.grainger.com/product/20VE96 i bought something like this
assbot: ETON Backup Battery,Silver,1-1/8in.D - Weather Radios - 20VE96|NBOTU4000S - Grainger Industrial Supply
chetty: uh, something is off here, a prepper that like monsanto ..no add up
ben_vulpes: today i buy metal halides to light the office, because flourescents are the root of all evil.
chetty: today i buy metal halides to light the office, because flourescents are the root of all evil.//nah just a little branch
ben_vulpes: davout: how've you been?
ben_vulpes: and also where
mats_cd03: monsanto makes it possible to feed more people with less. whats not to like?
ben_vulpes: chetty: just a wee touch of the inflation hidden in decreasing quality.
chetty: mats_cd03, that it mostly kills those people ...
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 exactly that.
mircea_popescu: feeding more people with less is exactly evil.
mircea_popescu: either feed more people with better or feed fewer people with better. but less... no.
mats_cd03: a difference of opinion.
mircea_popescu: what exactly is the opinion you're holding here ?
mircea_popescu: "it's okay for things to go to shit, as long as there's more of us" ?
mats_cd03: it's ok for things to go to shit, as long as some of us can be more productive with the land that's left.
mats_cd03: arable land, anyway
mircea_popescu: seems a recipe for disaster.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that i can in good conscience call that an opinion.
mats_cd03: confounding variables.
mircea_popescu: no but i mean... "joe thinks 3x4 = 12, moe thins 3x4=13" this isn't a difference of opinions, inasmuch moe's thing isn't an opinion.
mats_cd03: are you disputing that GMO crops increase yields?
mircea_popescu: yes, actually.
thickasthieves: fukcing taxes
mircea_popescu: suppose i have a car factory, and you came by and proposed to sell me a patented mechanism which when added to the factory, "increased yielkds' by 50%.
mircea_popescu: so i pay, you install it, and lo and behold, i am producing 50% more units
mats_cd03: so, a flounder gene spliced into tomatoes that permit growth in regions that wouldn't support tomatoes naturally
mircea_popescu: except they're bicycles.
mats_cd03: this is not increasing yields of tomatoes?
mircea_popescu: i'd fucking sue you.
nubbins`: it's not like people are buying monsanto seed and saying "hey, wait, this isn't what i paid for"
nubbins`: they
mircea_popescu: the entire "monsanto increases yields" fallacy is based on the fraudulent proposition that shit-tomatoes are = tomatoes. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this doesn't hold.
nubbins`: 're buying it and saying "fuck me and everyone i know who has this job"
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yes, but a gullible public is scarcely an excuse.
thickasthieves: it's only a crime if you get caught!
mircea_popescu: oic.
nubbins`: it's only a crime if you can't afford to commit it
nubbins`: wifi-enabled printers, not the best idea
nubbins`: ever try sending your printer a 25mb document via wifi?
mircea_popescu: wifi enabled printers are great, you can send people pronz
nubbins`: great until you've got a court date in an hour and you can't get your evidence printed in a timely fashion ;/
nubbins` hunts for cable
mircea_popescu: printing your evidence an hour before court date ?
ben_vulpes: fuck wifi enabled printers.
mircea_popescu: you methhead you
ben_vulpes: they never come with modern chips, so i have to detatch from my primary network to use the printer in our office.
nubbins`: 8)
nubbins`: this methhead is gonna win
ben_vulpes: people are very aware of how stupid this is, because i email them things that i want printed to remind them that they bought a poorly featured printer.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 402.54, Best ask: 403.45, Bid-ask spread: 0.91000, Last trade: 403.49, 24 hour volume: 30406.49355436, 24 hour low: 373.87, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 396.288183921
pete_dushenski: http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2014/Oct/53 << only osx 10.9 and 10.10 affected
assbot: Full Disclosure: CVE-2014-3671: DNS Reverse Lookup as a vector for the Bashvulnerability (CVE-2014-6271 et.al.)
ben_vulpes: and still unpatched.
ben_vulpes: i hate this thing.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski not so sure about that only.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: lol you updated?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: fair enough… "At this point of time the stock resolvers (in combination with the libc
pete_dushenski: library) of OSX 10.9 (all versions) and 10.10/R2 are the only known standard installations that pass the bash exploit string back and up to getnameinfo()."
pete_dushenski: "only known"
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: a great deal of the shop's work is ios. can't not and do what we're paid for.
pete_dushenski: absence of evidence != evidence of absence
ben_vulpes: work computer vs personal
mats_cd03: what are you, donald rumsfeld?
pete_dushenski: mats_cd03: maybe?
mircea_popescu: * PTR "() { :;}; echo CVE-2014-6271, CVE-201407169, RDNS"
mircea_popescu: epic tho
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: makes sense.
mats_cd03: its nice to meet you, sir.
mircea_popescu: !up ziggamon
pete_dushenski: "11-10-2014 Apple confirms that with DL1769 in place that "The issue that remains, while it raises interesting questions, is not a security issue in and of itself."
mircea_popescu: sigh
mircea_popescu: what braindamage school do these people go to ?
thickasthieves: it's not a school in and of itself
mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: would ya happen to have any suggestions for this legal research? i'm drowning, atm -- i've got 5 relevant cases across 3 judges, and expended ~20 hours so far
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 i'd love to, but i can't do it in the abstract.
mircea_popescu: so tell me what you're doing and what the problem is ?
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 and i got a meeting now, so we'll resume in a few hours.
pete_dushenski: http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/34879/
mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: i am currently using the following search: JUDGE(BLAKE) & ("THE GOVERNMENT") & ("PAPERWORK" "PRIVACY" "SEARCH WARRANT" "ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE" "EMAIL" "SUPPRESS EVIDENCE" "HARD DRIVE" "TRANSMISSION" "WRITTEN") & DA(aft 12-31-1989 & bef 01-01-2003)
mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: the problem is: too much noise and insufficient signal
pete_dushenski: ^OpenVPN 2.2.29 - ShellShock Exploit
nubbins`: what research is this
mats_cd03: courts circus
nubbins`: oh, that's a throwback
nubbins`: i poked at that, way too much effort
nubbins`: see comments.
mats_cd03: i did
mats_cd03: currently treating your list of judges as canonical
nubbins`: feel free to cut me in on your bounty
asciilifeform: dynamo flashlights << these are very popular here in usa also. sold nearly everywhere (cheap chinese crap, but, basic idea is same)
nubbins`: i had a dynamo flashlight once, and it was fucking useless
nubbins`: maybe they're better these days
asciilifeform: nubbins`: if bought in north america in recent decades - inevitable plastic gears, worthless turd
nubbins`: i think it was actually a branded freebie, so definitely
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.11445789 = 2.1747 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.15825875 BTC to 16`125 shares, 7183 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 5.97993760 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 520 satoshi per share
ben_vulpes: log works for me
Apocalyptic: yeah it's back
rithm: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8453223
assbot: Analysis of the Linux backdoor used in Freenode IRC network compromise | Hacker News
ben_vulpes: <thickasthieves> i beat MIT http://www.coindesk.com/mit-bitcoin-trading-simulation-yields-profit-89-50-days/ << what the hell are idiots like this doing at MIT
assbot: MIT Bitcoin Trading Simulation Yields Profit of 89% in 50 Days
ben_vulpes: oh wait it's bezzle MIT
ben_vulpes: real MIT died with the lisp machines i guess
xinxi: is gabriel_laddel here?
thickasthieves: it's also hard to value what they did because you can simply tweak your trading method, backtest, and adjust til you get favorable backtest for the timeframe
thickasthieves: then you employ for next 2 mos and get raped
thickasthieves: employ it
xinxi: right, I traded for years in the FX market. Backtesting usually does not work well. The market is always changing.
thickasthieves: also they used a very small investment
xinxi: ;;ident thickasthieves
gribble: Nick 'thickasthieves', with hostmask 'thickasthieves!~ThickAsTh@unaffiliated/thickasthieves', is identified as user 'ThickAsThieves', with GPG key id B28732FE807495EC, key fingerprint D649FD3B664A6BCF801D727EB28732FE807495EC, and bitcoin address 1NfXM69erAWPDdNrZ2k2UkuV7HDPc6Ebwk
thickasthieves: useless
thickasthieves: try using their method with hundreds or thousands of btc and itll fall apart
xinxi: ;;ident xinxi
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'xinxi', with hostmask 'xinxi!~xinxi@nusnet-185-15.dynip.nus.edu.sg', is identified as user 'wangxinxi', with GPG key id 331894345B459329, key fingerprint EE5C4780D0955B8E25CF2667331894345B459329, and bitcoin address None
xinxi: yeah, the impact the bot will be very severe then.
xinxi: are people working now? there are only a few here.
danielpbarron is here
xinxi: can anybody check whether the reply from digitalgrow racism? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=821889.0
assbot: [ANN] Coinut.com - Bitcoin Options Exchange
xinxi: I am from a country without racism, so I am not very sensititve to that.
danielpbarron: .. what?
xinxi: facism. suprised?
RagnarDanneskjol: xinxi - you need to HTFU
xinxi: yeah, I know. I just need to know the fact.
TomServo: xinxi: Seems more idiotic than racist.
thickasthieves: xinxi cmon now
thickasthieves: no one gives a shit if youre chinese
thickasthieves: no one that matters
thickasthieves: dont worry about racism
danielpbarron: there's no racism in china?
thickasthieves: they are alienating themselves not you
danielpbarron: don't they like.. hate the japs?
thickasthieves: hehe
thickasthieves: use the ignore feature liberally on that forum
thickasthieves: just dont ignore people only cuz they disagree
xinxi: you know the reason why we hate jps.
thickasthieves: cuz ur racist?
xinxi: we don’t hate all japs.
thickasthieves: :)
thickasthieves: maybe you dont hate japs at all
mats_cd03: meh. japs are in their own circle of hell atm
mats_cd03: who cares?
xinxi: i hate the japs who killed so many people.
xinxi: but i like normal japanese people when i went to japan.
xinxi: especially because they inherited and preserved traditional chinese culture quite well.
RagnarDanneskjol: !up punkbot
ben_vulpes: deeds demo?
thickasthieves: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/15/business/international/ireland-to-phase-out-tax-advantage-used-by-technology-firms.html?_r=0
assbot: Log In - The New York Times
punkbot: just setting up the account
punkbot: dry run worked, will try with actual BTC later
RagnarDanneskjol: ooh wee
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00073822 = 24.6565 BTC [+] {2}
xinxi: Coindesk is asking me to publish a review.
xinxi: do you guys trust coindesk?
thickasthieves: no
thickasthieves: but they still are fastest with some news
thickasthieves: you just gotta filter out the scum sometimes
thickasthieves: they want you to review your own site?
thickasthieves: how much do they charge you for that?
xinxi: 1 BTC
thickasthieves: ha!
xinxi: cheap?
danielpbarron: ;;rate PeterL 1 https://twitter.com/petermlambert/status/522066960042188800
assbot: /PeterMLambert Are you in /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash-assets? If so, what's your username?
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user PeterL has been recorded.
thickasthieves: dude, they should be paying you if it's news
thickasthieves: at worst it should be free coverage
thickasthieves: but you reviewing your own site, paying them 1btc, makes them not a news site, but a shill
xinxi: yeah, it seems this defeat the purporse of a “review”.
thickasthieves: consider your own reputation in that transaction as well
thickasthieves: tell them they can review it and you will facilitate with a test account and interview
thickasthieves: or whatever
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42000 @ 0.00073931 = 31.051 BTC [+]
thickasthieves: if you pay, then they wont really review it, theyll just praise it
xinxi: i see
thickasthieves: but wtf do i know
thickasthieves: :)
xinxi: anyway, you do provide useful suggestions.
xinxi: thanks
thickasthieves: np gl
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00073931 = 7.9845 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: https://www.nccgroup.com/en/blog/2014/10/analysis-of-the-linux-backdoor-used-in-freenode-irc-network-compromise << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-08-2014#807732 ☝︎☟︎☟︎
assbot: Analysis of the Linux backdoor used in freenode IRC network compromise | NCC Group
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2014 23:34:47; mircea_popescu: pronouncement #b : and then he spake thus : ye knoweth the evil people of the world know no rest, for the very fire of hell scorches their gullets on the inside so they may never sit quietly in a room. and therefore it will come to pass that they will put pressure on freenode, starting for instance last thursday.
asciilifeform: the 64 mega-buck question - whence came the pwnhole. the rootkit, while well-made, is considerably less interesting.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22942 @ 0.00073805 = 16.9323 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00073634 = 1.804 BTC [-]
thickasthieves: nsa doesnt let you tell when they tell you what to do
thickasthieves: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/14/us-usa-fed-williams-idUSKCN0I31Y720141014
assbot: Exclusive: More QE might be appropriate if U.S. economy faltered- Fed's Williams| Reuters
thickasthieves: we're gonna need more fuel for dis fire!
thickasthieves: right away sir!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20056 @ 0.00073593 = 14.7598 BTC [-]
xinxi: hey, I need a market maker for my site.
xinxi: who can do that?
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 407.59, Best ask: 408.23, Bid-ask spread: 0.64000, Last trade: 408.24, 24 hour volume: 29325.78568430, 24 hour low: 378.97, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 398.164634543
gabriel_laddel: 16:18:34xinxi:is gabriel_laddel here? << people generally read the logs, and there is a feature for gribble known as ";; later"
xinxi: I read your comments carefully and have revised the site according to them.
xinxi: Thanks gabriel_laddel.
thickasthieves: ;;later tell xinxi This is how to use later tell :)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
thickasthieves: ;;messages
gribble: Error: "messages" is not a valid command.
TomServo: ;;notes
thickasthieves: ;;mail
gribble: I currently have notes waiting for BlueMeanie4, Daniel_Krawisz, davidldubuc, DTdirk, indolering, JuliaTourianski, Michael1, mist, normalra, nubbins, perdent, princessnell, ragmondo, RPrpRP, sgarnick, sgornick, tbz1, tweeeaks, usagi, wywialm, xinxi, and Zerock.
gribble: Error: "mail" is not a valid command.
thickasthieves: ah
thickasthieves: thx
xinxi: ;;notes
gribble: I currently have notes waiting for BlueMeanie4, Daniel_Krawisz, davidldubuc, DTdirk, indolering, JuliaTourianski, Michael1, mist, normalra, nubbins, perdent, princessnell, ragmondo, RPrpRP, sgarnick, sgornick, tbz1, tweeeaks, usagi, wywialm, xinxi, and Zerock.
TomServo: np
xinxi: ;;notes xinxi
gribble: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
thickasthieves: note that notes arent private ;)
thickasthieves: ;;notes usagi
gribble: Sent 2 weeks, 2 days, 15 hours, and 37 minutes ago: <TheNewDeal> hey what's your history like with kakobrekla?
thickasthieves: hehe
xinxi: ;;notes xinxi
gribble: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
xinxi: where is the note?
thickasthieves: gribble pm's you when you next appear with your note
thickasthieves: do you have a pm from gribble?
xinxi: oh, i see it.
xinxi: it’s convenient.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24989 @ 0.00073539 = 18.3767 BTC [-] {2}
gabriel_laddel: ;; google site: loper-os.org mpex review
gribble: Loper OS » A Review of MPEx, the Bitcoin Stock Exchange.: <http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1108>; Loper OS » Bitcoin Adventures.: <http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1139>; Loper OS » Bitcoin, or How to Hammer in Nails with a Microscope.: <http://www.loper-os.org/?p=939>
thickasthieves: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 412.0, Best ask: 413.68, Bid-ask spread: 1.68000, Last trade: 411.0, 24 hour volume: 29479.34772437, 24 hour low: 378.97, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 398.364299354
kakobrekla: arent you sleeping
thickasthieves: lol not yet
kakobrekla: the longest streak i had with pc was 72hrs
thickasthieves: i'm developing pains though, need better chair
thickasthieves: for some reason i was sitting on my hand for like 20min and now my wrist is hurt
xinxi: thickasthieves, which timezone are you in?
kakobrekla: as long as its not carpal tunnel
thickasthieves: such a disciplined hodler
thickasthieves: EST
thickasthieves: it's 2pm
xinxi: I see. it’s 2 am here. I need to go to sleep. talk to you tomorrow.
gabriel_laddel: 17:40:23xinxi:I read your comments carefully and have revised the site according to them. << tbh, I got bored within the first 1-2 minutes of browsing around. you probably want to pay someone who knows about copy, marketing etc. to fix it.
thickasthieves: ttyl
kakobrekla: thickasthieves do you find everything funny yet?
thickasthieves: nope, but i'm probly gonna consult some wacky tobaccy and a pillow soon
kakobrekla: me and my friend found that after about 24hrs things start to get funny.
kakobrekla: friends*
thickasthieves: happened to me once too, but i was on some drug no one told me the name of
kakobrekla: heh
thickasthieves: X1B or someshit
thickasthieves: hippy festivals...
xinxi: yeah, a good designer is going to make it better.
kakobrekla: from the experiments above, only caffeine was allowed
kakobrekla: Thank you for submitting a ticket with us today.
kakobrekla: We apologize for the inconvenience. It appears that there is a stuck process on this hypervisor at this time.
kakobrekla: I'm going to escalate this ticket to get this cleared up for you.
kakobrekla: mtgox style
kakobrekla: hehe
thickasthieves: lawsky live in 4hrs http://cardozolaw.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Viewer.aspx?id=01b5be00-c8df-4688-a1dc-5302b6ca3c7e
assbot: HTTP 500 : Internal Server Error
kakobrekla: lawlsky
thickasthieves: i have a feeling he's gonna hold the line and keep the excessive regs
thickasthieves: goat is gonna be at the lawsky thing
thickasthieves: or at least someone who purports to be goat on tview chat
thickasthieves: seems to behave like him
TomServo: hah, I didn't realize he was still around
thickasthieves: he aint around here though
thickasthieves: hehe
thickasthieves: !up bgupta
thickasthieves: bgupta, you going to the lawsky thing tonight?
thickasthieves: you should go and cover it for qntra http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-sqntr/
assbot: Introducing S.QNTR pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
kakobrekla: thickasthieves if 'goat' says he is going to sue lawlsky, its the real thing.
BingoBoingo: !up devthedev
gabriel_laddel: ;; gettrust devthedev
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user gabriel_laddel to user devthedev: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=gabriel_laddel&dest=devthedev | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=devthedev | Rated since: Tue Jul 15 12:31:42 2014
devthedev: Hi gabriel_laddel
gabriel_laddel: well hello
devthedev: BingoBoingo: I have a dedicated server at my house if that could be of any assistance.
BingoBoingo: devthedev: New hosting has been arranged, waiting for cazalla to wake up and aim the domain
devthedev: Okay
BingoBoingo: Site was Dos'd yesterday morning, prolly Dos'd harder this morning
devthedev: That isn't much of a surprise
kakobrekla: <devthedev> BingoBoingo: I have a dedicated server at my house if that could be of any assistance. < you have a death wish?
devthedev: Lol
BingoBoingo: devthedev: kakobrekla had to deal with BitBet DOs's
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 409.11, Best ask: 411.35, Bid-ask spread: 2.24000, Last trade: 411.72, 24 hour volume: 30648.07962933, 24 hour low: 378.97, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 400.402158319
mircea_popescu: heh.
kakobrekla: and haxors with liabilities
mircea_popescu: you mean disabilities ?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell RagnarDanneskjol send it to punkman's thing once it's up
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 the proper avenue would be to put all this into a large file and then grep the hell out of it ?
mircea_popescu: rithm> https://news.ycombinator <<< yeah, they copied it from logs.
mircea_popescu: which logs you should probably read.
bounce: <jurov> in my experience it is more about stuf like meticulously checking your input (such as no negative numbers,. broken unicode, sql metacharacters, etc.) << perversely I do enjoy writing input parsers in C or C++. it's not even that hard, with the right approach, though some encodings make it unnecessarily annoying.
mircea_popescu: <xinxi> I am from a country without racism, so I am not very sensititve to that. << a) are you kidding ?! b) why'd you care ?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56315 @ 0.00073436 = 41.3555 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo gave qntra its own ip too.
mircea_popescu: xinxi: do you guys trust coindesk? << the reason qntra.net exists is because we emphatically do not trust coindesk
mircea_popescu: and if you know any chinese people who would be interested in covering btc in china, from mining to anything else, there's prbably a job opening there
mircea_popescu: hickasthieves: they want you to review your own site? <<< who was saying earlier the coindesk spam is "not from coindesk" ? Hm ?
jurov: bounce and did your parsers ever underwent pentest?
bounce: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11342371
assbot: South Korea identity thefts forces ID overhaul - Business - NZ Herald News
mircea_popescu: xinxi: cheap? << it's a scam. you're better off paying 1btc for facebook ads.
devthedev: ^^
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-10-2014#873009 << funny how that works, eh asciilifeform ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-10-2014 17:07:36; asciilifeform: https://www.nccgroup.com/en/blog/2014/10/analysis-of-the-linux-backdoor-used-in-freenode-irc-network-compromise << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-08-2014#807732
bounce: no specific pentests, no, but I usually do try and hit all the corner cases and esp. if it has to go back and forth, write both sides of the link so I'm sure they can talk to each other.
mircea_popescu: funny how mp has the news a week early and errrything.
jurov: bounce: I did HTTP stuff in C (dev/maintainer of ziproxy.sf.net) and it was just plainly impossible to do everything right, it had bugs all the time
mircea_popescu: the very few people i knew who actually got c code consistently right eventually gave up and moved to asm
bounce was on the receiving end of a project where there wasn't a reference output generator for their extraspecial hand-crafted "xmlrpc" parsing, written in stereotypical India.
jurov: HTTP in asm *faints*
mircea_popescu: jurov you know this is what they should have people do in prison. forget those dumbass straw braiding things
bounce: haven't really looked into http but I'm not surprised it's on par with html, ie not really parseable. esp. the w3c specs stand out because they're only written for the html writer, with nary a thought to the parser writer.
jurov: yes, i'm quite a reiser fan
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: nsa doesnt let you tell when they tell you what to do << nah it wasn't a mole, it was an exploit. either the bash thing or something else not yet announced.
jurov: he should get allowed to continue from prison
bounce: shouldn't've killed the girl, there's much more deserving people in free software land.
mircea_popescu: o is this the namesys guy that killed his wife ?
jurov: Oh and i do agree, C/C++ *is* fun. Till you have to maintain it.
jurov: mircea_popescu: yes
mircea_popescu: i dun get why these guys don't just move to saudi arabia.
mircea_popescu: it's just as much connected to the internet as rural pennsylvania or w/e
mircea_popescu: and if wife doesn't want to come you know right there she's angling to get murdered.
mircea_popescu: just like the tsa works!
jurov: you ever murdered any?
mircea_popescu: nope
mircea_popescu: i never had any.
jurov: oh that
mircea_popescu: not that i see why anyone would. just ditch her.
mircea_popescu: and don't be dumb enough to live in any sort of common property arrangement, if that's what's bothering you.
bounce: gah. found a piece of software that promised to let me configure some obscure hardware I happen to have. doesn't compile on freebsd because linuxisms all over. yet it does have supposedly-freebsd-enabling #ifdefs here and there. something with release engineering, lack thereof.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: i'm developing pains though, need better chair << you sound just like a kid that's overexicted about "being a trader" and about to do very dumb shit.
mircea_popescu: how about a coupla days off.
mircea_popescu: btc ain't going anywhere in the interval.
mike_c: +1 tat. take your winnings and sleep.
mircea_popescu: dude the people who run wordpress...
bounce: at least they're in good company
mircea_popescu: so i sent this notification thing to all the god damned blogs that were used in the ddos last month. like 80k in and im not even done in any sense.
mircea_popescu: the emails i get tho... because these are WORDPRESS users right, so they can't leave fucking comments, they email
mircea_popescu: half of them clearly have no fucking idea wqhat a computer even is. at all.
rithm: it's the box the porn comes out of, duh.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't be surprised to find that something like a computer in three was actually raped
mircea_popescu: in the literal sense, insert penis dent unit
rithm: hahaha\\
mircea_popescu: apparently they've been discussing it in their dedicated forum (50+ ppl mentioned it, NOT ONE thought to link the fucking discussions, because they're on the internet ,right ? what is a linlk ?)
mircea_popescu: and they came to all SORTS of fucktarded conclusions
mircea_popescu: the internet should never have been opened to the public.
mircea_popescu: you want to wank it to teenage pov poon, get a fucking degree.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: X1B or someshit << wtf is that ?!
mircea_popescu: !up cypherc
TomServo: random stab - maybe 2CB?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 150 @ 0.01089999 = 1.635 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: what, like monsanto mdma ?
TomServo: Mayhaps? Could be anything at a hippie festival.
mircea_popescu: well except panda tears
BingoBoingo: https://gitlab.brokenpipe.de/stettberger/avremu/tree/master#README << CPU emulator in Tex
assbot: Christian Dietrich / avremu | GitLab
rithm: it's some tried and true drug that was used recreationally for a half-century...except they added an isomer
mircea_popescu: "Here, when attempting to pick someone up or take someone out, “no” is not actually always a true rejection. Girls, perhaps as a shield against the chamuyo fired from all directions, are conditioned to almost invariably turn down guys at first and second, and maybe third approach. And for the other half of this symbiotic relationship, guys are conditioned to pursue with total abandon, which on (unacceptable) occasi
mircea_popescu: on turns into grabbing a stranger’s face in a club and trying to plant one on them, totally uninvited. In speaking with foreign-born male friends, the ambiguity of “no” comes up as the most oft-repeated frustration, as most have spent their lives understanding, rightly so, that “no” means to retreat."
mircea_popescu: rightly so ?!
mircea_popescu: heh mkay.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17717 @ 0.000736 = 13.0397 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: Till you have to maintain it << the whole concept of 'software maintenance' is actually braindamaged. obligatory: http://www.niquette.com/paul/issue/softwr02.htm
assbot: Software Does Not Fail
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 412.17, Best ask: 412.88, Bid-ask spread: 0.71000, Last trade: 413.15, 24 hour volume: 30604.77095579, 24 hour low: 381.29, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 400.630767114
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 94 @ 0.1062766 = 9.99 BTC [-] {6}
mats_cd03: it rises
kakobrekla: !s anonabox
assbot: 0 results for 'anonabox' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=anonabox
kakobrekla: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/augustgermar/anonabox-a-tor-hardware-router
assbot: anonabox : a Tor hardware router by August Germar — Kickstarter
kakobrekla: 300k out of 7k hehe
mike_c: ;;seen diana_coman
gribble: diana_coman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 3 hours, 32 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <diana_coman> I'm to blame for Sweete__ being here, since he pm-ed me about trading and I asked him why wasn't he in here if he was a trader
mike_c: that thing seems cool
thickasthieves: honeybox
thickasthieves: probly a better name
mats_cd03: anonabox is a terrible idea
kakobrekla: sez 'open hardware'. does it come with electron microscope ?
asciilifeform: 'anonabox' << aside from the obvious objections - this apparatus is not only trivial to build (out of any reprogrammable 'linux router') but was even sold in the past, by others.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30308 @ 0.00073803 = 22.3682 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: and 7k usd! one could build a small planet for that!
mike_c: it's $50
kakobrekla: its 300k
thickasthieves: it's log!
mike_c: so don't use it to take over the world. still seems useful as cloaking device.
thickasthieves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTrAVpK9blw
assbot: Log Commercial - YouTube
asciilifeform: 300k << one could build a world.
mike_c: ah ascii, just wait til you have a 300k backlog of orders for cardano
thickasthieves: what's a cardano?
kakobrekla: not gonna happen without the wifi
mike_c: cardano is last year's xmas gift
thickasthieves: what's a xmas gift?
kakobrekla: go to sleep
mike_c: tat you better go to sleep before you lose all your btc to the kiddies
thickasthieves: i tried
thickasthieves: i'm sitting in coin
thickasthieves: s'all good
mike_c: hard to go to sleep after successful all-night gambling binge :)
asciilifeform: if i had 300k, would have long ago been in the middle of product #2...
mike_c: pre-orders!
kakobrekla: and wifi
thickasthieves: uhhh
bounce: so kickstart it
thickasthieves: you have like 9000btc orwhatever
mike_c: oh yeah.
mike_c: ;;calc 440 * [ticker -last]
gribble: Error: There's really no reason why you should have underscores or brackets in your mathematical expression. Please remove them.
asciilifeform: but i refuse to take pre-orders for equipment not yet produced and tested, and i think mp agrees with my reasoning.
mike_c: ;;calc 440 * [ticker --last]
gribble: 181860.8
bounce: huh. talk about useful error messages.
asciilifeform: mike_c, thickasthieves: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2014#854703 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 02-10-2014 05:23:31; asciilifeform: i may have said it before, but i will repeat: s.nsa has a piggy (see mircea_popescu's site); every month, i invoice him for materials, get some btc. but, since i can't safely convert btc to usd where i live, i just sit on them. they will probably be buried with me. hence: s.nsa, presently, in practice runs on guess what (my pocket money...)
mike_c: you shouldn't sell it anyway. tea leaves are all pointing up.
bounce: oh the wisdom thrown away the world over, drinking tea but not reading the leaves.
kakobrekla: i prefer coffee. much less biased.
asciilifeform: mike_c: i doubt the shareholders would be happy with 50+% of the piggy burning in the fire of the confiscatory u.s. tax.
kakobrekla: we can wait. as long as we get the wifi.
kakobrekla: pls dont ignore me yet!
kakobrekla: too late now isnt it.
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: for our 'friends' reading this, i do not have the piggy in my own hands, nor remote access to it, cannot give it up in the torture room...
kakobrekla: yeah, but you would say that in either case
bounce gets the $5 wrench. one way to find out...
thickasthieves: yeah too risky to be cashing em anyway
thickasthieves: tea leaves say small chance of bubble
mike_c: bubble? we haven't even caught up to last bubble yet.
thickasthieves: bubbles come in all sizes
asciilifeform: too risky to be cashing em << yes. but the thing i am doing instead is also very ugly, and i'm genuinely surprised that there's been no hatemail over it.
bounce: who's partial to bubble tea?
gabriel_laddel: har
mike_c: hatemail is a poor motivator
thickasthieves: get vendors to accept btc
kakobrekla: take my 5bux order in btc or else ill take my biz elsewhere ?
thickasthieves: seems like a problem that needs to be stalled, s.nsa being throttled that hard
mike_c: say it with me. "retail adoption doesn't mean shit"
thickasthieves: solved*
asciilifeform: thickasthieves: get vendors to accept btc << that would not solve the problem of a 200+K usd machine sitting in my civilian home for easy confiscation by
thickasthieves: what, s.nsa cant have a legal operation in US?
asciilifeform: ... by enemy
asciilifeform: we don't actually have rule of law in usa.
thickasthieves: hrm
thickasthieves: so hire henchmen in places where btc can be rendered
thickasthieves: and have them do some work
asciilifeform: thickasthieves: who is going to pay my relocation? you?
thickasthieves: s.nsa
asciilifeform: thickasthieves: henchmen are of precisely no use at this stage
thickasthieves: cmon you think shareholders would complain if the guy running the show needed to relocate on its dime?
thickasthieves: of course i'm speaking out of turn at this point
bounce: you got more stuff to relocate than fits in a container and a suitcase?
thickasthieves: but as i see it the co has the budget and is severely crippled
thickasthieves: do or do not
asciilifeform: thickasthieves: doesn't matter if the shareholders all wished this (in what hallucinogenic fantasy land?) - 300btc is simply nowhere near sufficient for this, considering esp. that most of it is direly necessary for the first mass production run.
thickasthieves: 300btc?
thickasthieves: wasnt the raise like 10kbtc?
asciilifeform: bounce: suitcase << i have a ~30,000 volume library; a small machine shop; a woman; and a great many pieces of laboratory equipment.
kakobrekla: so, two suitcases.
asciilifeform: thickasthieves: read the s.nsa page on mircea_popescu's site.
TomServo: Holy library batman!
bounce: that's what, two suitcases and one large container, thereabouts?
mike_c: raise was ~460
thickasthieves: i'm so confused now
mike_c: http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-october-2013-statement-1/
assbot: S.NSA, October 2013 Statement (1) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mike_c: 472.76008500
kakobrekla: thickasthieves prolly confusing with the S.MG
thickasthieves: ahhh
thickasthieves: well then i need to stfu
TomServo: mike_c: give him some sleepytime tea
mike_c: srsly. at least he stopped trading.
asciilifeform: aha yes. i remembered almost the correct figure.
thickasthieves: where the hell is my bitcoin video game then!
thickasthieves: :)
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> and 7k usd! one could build a small planet for that! << you have any idea what cisco and friends sell stuff like balancing routers etc ?
mike_c: thickasthieves: it exists if you run linux. i heard a rumor diana_coman compiled it on windows, but have not verified.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cisco << i personally oversaw robot legs (steel pipes) purchased for several hundy usd each, while a thrall of usg - much less cisco
mircea_popescu: * jaggered (~vmatonis@c-50-178-42-5.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets
mircea_popescu: srsly ?
mircea_popescu: ppls gotta up teh noobs.
asciilifeform: we talked about this. i can build planet for xxx usd, cisco - no.
kakobrekla: i dont see them coming and im not going start to
kakobrekla: but i can make assbot do stuff
kakobrekla: like up unseen ppl
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17699 @ 0.00073398 = 12.9907 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: <thickasthieves> bubbles come in all sizes << here's a good size : http://40.media.tumblr.com/d1de684d0883d3901ebc07fef4d7dd5d/tumblr_nbswvrlyaN1qcpg61o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla no, this is not something to be solved by technology
mircea_popescu: this is something to sparta!
kakobrekla: well bring a slave to up them then.
mircea_popescu: <thickasthieves> but as i see it the co has the budget and is severely crippled << eh, one of the major advantages of being listed on mpex is that people can make their own decisions. noine of that "gotta move to sf" bullshit.
mircea_popescu: im sure he has some sort of plan to extract himself, and well, he's the only one in the position to make that plan
mircea_popescu: fuck do i know the details.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 410.55, Best ask: 411.69, Bid-ask spread: 1.14000, Last trade: 412.43, 24 hour volume: 30935.36426451, 24 hour low: 382.0, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 401.996809897
thickasthieves: yeah i just thought snsa was rolling in coins
asciilifeform: deep inside the gravity well, probably not getting out alive; but will carry out project no. 1 and hopefully no. 2 as well before obola calls my name.
thickasthieves: made mistake
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46343 @ 0.0007339 = 34.0111 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: unrelated, http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/14/iowa-libertarian-senate-candidate-doug-butzier-dies-plane-crash/17256595
assbot: Senate candidate dies in Iowa plane crash, hospital says
gabriel_laddel: ;; google scott locklin fusion press release
gribble: Anatomy of a Fusion press release | Locklin on science: <http://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/anatomy-of-a-fusion-press-release/>; Newer Posts - Locklin on science - WordPress.com: <https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/page/2/>; Design | Locklin on science: <https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/category/design/>
cazalla: BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Cazalla is hosting it, I don't have panel access <<< suspended for excessive use of resources, can't even access cpanel or ftp to make a backup, submitted a ticket
kakobrekla: where was it hosted?
cazalla: ventraip.com
kakobrekla: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2791369/20-stone-minister-public-health-accused-big-credible-hits-saying-s-s-inside-counts.html
assbot: Maggie De Block accused of being too big to be 'credible' as minister for public health | Daily Mail Online
kakobrekla: super fast server until you use them
mike_c: was the excessive usage from an attack?
BingoBoingo: Probably, or host being shitty
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-value/
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/mlg-bitcoin-company/
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/cavirtex-technical-issue/
mike_c: i mean, a couple thousand hits a day shouldn't trigger any limits..
mike_c: plus, they get -2 points for serving a 200 with some fucking blank page instead of a 50x.
mike_c: screwing up my news widget.
cazalla: i imagine its because of the guy that was dosing the other day
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.0007339 = 13.7606 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: mike_c should prolly cache it locally
kakobrekla: i mean, on your boxen
cazalla: "Your account has been suspended due to many number of processes active at /home/bitcoinp/public_html/qntra.net/index.php. This processes were causing high server load."
mike_c: it's cached for 10 mins. not much use showing a list of dead links.
kakobrekla: ah
asciilifeform: im sure he has some sort of plan to extract himself... << i've lost count of the people who asked me about this. it's terrifyingly elementary problem - living is expensive. it's cheaper in, e.g., uganda, than usa, but the equipment i use does not get cheaper when far from the industrial world. on the contrary. and extraction of my own sorry hide, and that of my pet, in a way that still leaves me able to think and
kakobrekla: you got cut off
asciilifeform: ... to think and work (no day job in the ugandan salt mines, for example) is not a cheap proposition. if i knew of a magical pill against this, i'd have swallowed it already.
bounce: there's more to this fancy industrial world than just the USA. oop norf you can even learn to speak french and stuff.
asciilifeform: ty kakobrekla (i'm working from a terminal, in a faraway place, for reasons of having to eat. not entirely irrelevant to this discussion...)
asciilifeform: bounce: i have no problem whatsoever with languages.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17871 @ 0.00073479 = 13.1314 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.0007339 = 4.5135 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: fact is - and i confessed this before on several occasions - i can't afford to move my equipment overseas, certainly can't afford to repurchase it, and moving so much as 300km in any geographic direction would leave me immediately without an income. insta-zap.
mircea_popescu: !up pollos
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> suspended for excessive use of resources, can't even access cpanel or ftp to make a backup, submitted a ticket << that's classy o.o
bounce: so is the broken inglish in the ticket response
cazalla: i had hoped it was the ISIS post
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> i mean, a couple thousand hits a day shouldn't trigger any limits.. << you don't know much about the shitbox biz model do you.
cazalla: so penguirker is gonna go nuts once it is back up
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> i'd have swallowed it already. << well, being able to sell the cardano would probably fork for that purpose.
mircea_popescu: esp if 2nd product under development etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's my one ticket. which is why i've spent 90% of my free time and 100% of my disposable income on it, for... a while.
mircea_popescu: note that i am not offering criticism, merely halping the pot air.
mircea_popescu: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 320511.97 in 195 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -82.94
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do you happen to have a backup at any point ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform meanwhile, the hard questions : http://trilema.com/2014/no-such-labs-snsa-september-2014-statement/#comment-108786
assbot: No Such lAbs (S.NSA), September 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Back up of which thing?
mircea_popescu: qntra
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i propose we go with xmas. if it works it'll be lulzy and if it doesn't idem.
asciilifeform: xmas << that's where i'm mentally shooting for, yes.
BingoBoingo: Yes. Now that the domain's been pointed It's a matter of messing with configs until site comes alive
mircea_popescu: aite.
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 407.06, Best ask: 407.62, Bid-ask spread: 0.56000, Last trade: 406.79, 24 hour volume: 30175.72981510, 24 hour low: 387.63, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 402.113218182
jurov: id'be really sleepless in tat's place. lats i remember he shorted
jurov: *he was short
mircea_popescu: generally before going to bed you put it in neutral.
jurov: that's up to discussion what's neutral position here
mike_c: he said he's sitting on coin now. i took that to mean long.
mircea_popescu: shit why do these bottles keep emptying.
mircea_popescu: just once i wish i got one that fills instead.
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2014/10/unofficial-is-site-shut-down-seeks-bitcoin-donations/
assbot: Unofficial IS Site Shut Down, Seeks Bitcoin Donations
mircea_popescu: o hey. wb qntra
cazalla: not yet
cazalla: old host just unsuspended
mircea_popescu: A twitter account, @QA_AF, is now seeking bitcoin to assist in paying server costs although the donation address2 is yet to receive any bitcoin donations. << you know, those are usually scams.
asciilifeform: http://habrahabr.ru/company/eset/blog/240345 << 'sandworm' sploit
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2014/10/dell-sells-excess-capacity-to-bitcoin-asic-miner/#comment-86 << is this leah mcderp that found satoshi ?
assbot: 404 Not Found
cazalla: prolly but everyone was claiming its official ISIS where as the twitter feed itself said hey, we're not official
mircea_popescu: the derp brigades on social media are something else i swear.
cazalla: plus given the host admitted to shutting it down, prob is legit, no donations yet anyway
mircea_popescu: wait. how is the twitter acct related to the shut down domain ?
cazalla: it's not but that twitter account was complaining about it at the same time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16405 @ 0.00073558 = 12.0672 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: well... you see what i mean.
cazalla: i'm not gonna try and contact the guy, aus gov already kicked down a bunch of doors for less
mircea_popescu: not really of much interest anyway.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51655 @ 0.00073389 = 37.9091 BTC [-] {2}
thickasthieves: jurov, closed last short with profit, spent that on coins and am sitting out for a bit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjQtzV9IZ0Q
assbot: That'll do pig, that'll do (ending to Babe) - YouTube
jurov: asciilifeform: i've seen mircea's ways to exchange x.eur directly into crisp cash, maybe you should ask him for guidance to do likewise
jurov: not six figures, though
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15010 @ 0.00073696 = 11.0618 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: jurov: having large cash holdings is a health hazard where i live. and it isn't like i can buy machinery from, e.g., taiwan, with it, either.
jurov: i did not mean it as cocncrete advice, just that there are things i did not deem possible before
asciilifeform: jurov: there are groups of deviants in nyc, etc. who are said to trade btc to and from usd in cash. but this is not very useful to me in particular.
asciilifeform: jurov: i'm not part of the 'cash economy' in any way, shape, or form. but even if i had the skills and social connections to house and feed myself using paper benjamins, it is quite impossible to obtain industrial equipment and parts from overseas in that way.
PeterL: ;;rate mircea_popescu 2 runs mpex, has not run off yet
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from 1 to 2.
jurov: one needs to get creative. these overseas people don't know about btc?
PeterL: ;;rate ninjashogun -1 crackpot, pushy
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user ninjashogun has been recorded.
Adlai: what has ninjashogun been up to that gets him so popular in here?
asciilifeform: jurov: i have made inquiries. they know about it. but no one, readily, yet works for coin. or, more importantly, can be trusted to carry out a contract with the white man without the strings attached to using fiat/usd.
bounce: you in nyc? talk to bcb.
PeterL: ;;rate cazalla 1 qntra - good source of bitcoin news
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user cazalla has been recorded.
asciilifeform: Adlai: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ninjashogun.txt and much more of the same.
asciilifeform: bounce: nope. wash. dc area.
PeterL: ;;rate bingoboingo 1 qntra - good source of bitcoin news
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user bingoboingo has been recorded.
bounce: right next to virginia. hm.
asciilifeform: bounce: this discussion is academic, however, because we can't afford the NRE that would be involved in having prototypes made in a 'proper' plant.
jurov: did you consider - what if large proportion of cardano sales end up being bitcoins?
jurov: or you fess up to paypal crap?
bounce wonders what it'd cost to buy up and reactivate one of those laid up fabs.
jurov: just genuinely interested
asciilifeform: bounce: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2014#854716 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 02-10-2014 05:27:15; asciilifeform: the pick'n'place cum pastelayer is the only cut to a 'gordian knot' - namely, can't have the boards populated at a genuine factory (prohibitive cost for small batches) - but can't populate by hand with acceptable yield (very fine-pitch components)
asciilifeform: jurov: no paypal. no fiat sales. btc only.
jurov: then, if you can't use btc now, how it will change?
kakobrekla: afaik he mentioned once he plans to take em to his grave.
thickasthieves: good to have a plan
asciilifeform: jurov: great question. if critical mass of btc, i can escape to a friendly country and build small plant using modern tech.
jurov: maybe you'll need reseller in less derpy jurisdiction ;)
Adlai: asciilifeform: btw have you seen scalpl?
bounce: I was really talking chip fabs, not pcb plants. IIRC IBM wanted to offload fishkill, and nobody wanted it because tech too old. also, random search result: http://www.10stripe.com/featured/map/semiconductor-fabs.php
assbot: Map of Semiconductor Fabs - 10stripe
asciilifeform: jurov: recall my gravity well analogy. one gram of rocket fuel gets you nowhere nearer to escaping, e.g., earth or moon. a hundred tonnes - does. the gram brings you nearer to blowing out from the well only in the sense that it's one gram less that you must collect.
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZWShS_gqsk
assbot: Cher with Beavis & Butthead - I Got You Babe (1993) - YouTube
asciilifeform: bounce: we'd be talking seven figures in tax and enviro-bureaucracy fees alone.
asciilifeform: bounce: if not eight.
bounce: if the fab is laid up there's lots of tax break leverage. but you'd have to be a big corp to really make that happen. you know, apple and their sea^Wocean of bezzle. they can't use it in the usa though, have to buy up something somewhere else.
bounce: wonder if buying chunks of laid up corporate tax evasion bezzle at a discount would be sellable to them corps.
jurov: what? you mean ascii to confuse some agency into believeing that NSA ordered the cardano manufacture?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> jurov: i'm not part of the 'cash economy' in any way, shape, or form. but even if i had the skills and social connections to house and feed myself using paper benjamins, it is quite impossible to obtain industrial equipment and parts from overseas in that way. <<< yeah, which is why meth isn't a problem either.
mircea_popescu: jurov> or you fess up to paypal crap? << cardano won't sell for fiat./
bounce: s/discount/& for bitcoin/
mircea_popescu: actually, nothing i've made since 2011ish sells for fiat.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> bounce: we'd be talking seven figures in tax and enviro-bureaucracy fees alone. << you don't understand how leveraged crap generally is.
mircea_popescu: if industry worked like you represent it here apple would have no choice but to list 20 trillion in assets worldwide.
thickasthieves: http://cardozolaw.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Viewer.aspx?id=01b5be00-c8df-4688-a1dc-5302b6ca3c7e in Lawsky in 10m, the video feed has a chat function if qntra wants to ask Q's
assbot: HTTP 500 : Internal Server Error
bounce: blah silverlight
cazalla: ok so site xferred, hopefully dns refresh fast
bounce: looks to work here
cazalla: nah old host
mircea_popescu: ;;whois qntra.net
gribble: Error: You don't have the network.whois capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
mircea_popescu: ;;google whois qntra.ne
gribble: Jon Matonis To Headline Bitcoin4iGaming Conference This November: <http://qntra.net/2014/10/jon-matonis-to-headline-bitcoin4igaming-conference-this-november/>; Internet Watch Foundation Claims Bitcoin Increasingly ... - Qntra.net: <http://qntra.net/2014/10/internet-watch-foundation-claims-bitcoin-increasingly-used-to-purchase-cp/>; Andreas Antonopolous Testifies Before Canadian (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: ;;google whois qntra.net
gribble: Jon Matonis To Headline Bitcoin4iGaming Conference This November: <http://qntra.net/2014/10/jon-matonis-to-headline-bitcoin4igaming-conference-this-november/>; Internet Watch Foundation Claims Bitcoin Increasingly ... - Qntra.net: <http://qntra.net/2014/10/internet-watch-foundation-claims-bitcoin-increasingly-used-to-purchase-cp/>; Andreas Antonopolous Testifies Before Canadian (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: meh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27950 @ 0.00073754 = 20.6142 BTC [+]
thickasthieves: https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/qntra.net
assbot: Global DNS Propagation Checker - What's My DNS?
mircea_popescu: cazalla seems it's propagated everywhere but melbourne
mircea_popescu: sucks to live in the sticks eh cazalla ?
bounce: and which is the old, which the new?
mircea_popescu: 206.x is the new.
cazalla: well, that's australia for you
cazalla: just making backups before i nuke the old one and we'll see
bounce: http://blog.moolah.io/2014/10/14/moolah-is-having-to-close-its-doors/
assbot: Moolah is having to close its doors. | Moolah
Adlai: at least "If you fail to withdraw your funds before the platform is shut down on October 31st, you will receive an email asking you where you want your funds to go."
mircea_popescu: check it out, i found something to go with http://seriouspony.com/trouble-at-the-koolaid-point : http://www.literotica.com/s/the-right-to-rape
assbot: The Right to Rape - Sci-Fi & Fantasy - Literotica.com
mircea_popescu: the universe is balanced again.
mircea_popescu: "After 10 months as a high-risk startup in a volatile environment, Moolah has reached a stage where it is unable to continue operations in today’s market. With rising costs and dropping revenue, and the loss of a number of key clients vital to the ongoing operation of the company, we are no longer able to continue functioning."
mircea_popescu: heh. splendid.
dub: another victim of success
thickasthieves: the bell tolls
Adlai: tbh it's amazing that a business primarily focused on "payment" processing for the dogeconomy was able to survive this long
thickasthieves: omg lawsky is just doing comedy bits
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00073601 = 13.8738 BTC [-] {2}
Apocalyptic: !s poodle
assbot: 5 results for 'poodle' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=poodle
thickasthieves: this stream is shit
Apocalyptic: http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.ch/2014/10/this-poodle-bites-exploiting-ssl-30.html
assbot: Google Online Security Blog: This POODLE bites: exploiting the SSL 3.0 fallback
Apocalyptic: the SSL lulz keeps on
cazalla: do you guys see qntra or place holder now on qntra.net?
Apocalyptic: I see "dns refresh"
cazalla: cpu is at 100% on new host too mircea_popescu
kakobrekla: lol
cazalla: lots of wordpress pings too
kakobrekla: i get Resource Limit Is Reached
jurov: i see just 500 infernal error
jurov: where it is hosted now?
thickasthieves: me too
kakobrekla: some derp host ?
cazalla: with mp
cazalla: CPU Usage 100 / 100 %, Virtual Memory Usage 380 / 380 MB
mircea_popescu: um
mircea_popescu: You have reached entry processes (number of simultaneously running php and cgi scripts, as well as cron jobs and shell sessions) limit 217796 times
mircea_popescu: lol you're being dderpos'd.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the site's online, it's being mitigated, whatevs.
jurov: um... add some apache/nginx rule to weed out these pingback as soon as possible?
mircea_popescu: jurov i'd rather acquire the guy's list.
kakobrekla: jurov you really need to do it at a lower lever
kakobrekla: level
jurov: yes, but still better than letting cgi/php run for them
jurov: and can be still logged if you want
mircea_popescu: lol the log's 50mb
cazalla: damn trolls and haters
danielpbarron: Disabling SSL 3.0 support, or CBC-mode ciphers with SSL 3.0, is sufficient to mitigate this issue, but presents significant compatibility problems, even today. Therefore our recommended response is to support TLS_FALLBACK_SCSV. http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/10/this-poodle-bites-exploiting-ssl-30.html
assbot: Google Online Security Blog: This POODLE bites: exploiting the SSL 3.0 fallback
Apocalyptic: danielpbarron, linked to it above
danielpbarron: wah.. i searched for it in the logs and everything :<
mircea_popescu: lol
kakobrekla: search is delayed a bit.
jurov: http://btc2b.com/ frist!!!
assbot: BTC2B - The First Bitcoin To Business Congress - Brussels
bounce: you could try and condense the actual attack into a single paragraph. the paper and announcement are less than helpful.
jurov: http://hackertarget.com/100k-top-wordpress-powered-sites/ mircea here's your list ?
assbot: 100K Top WordPress Powered Sites | HackerTarget.com
mircea_popescu: jurov i dunno, but thanks. adding it all to the ping list.
mircea_popescu: which doesn't look like will ever be exhausted.
BingoBoingo: Oh is it the Reddit police?
bounce: need a pingback sink then?
BingoBoingo: Or Mullenwang to stop insisting DOS cannon be a part of default wordpress installs
BingoBoingo: !up jborkl
mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/uvdSsgc6 <<< attack's ded.
assbot: CPUvMEM(MB)pMEM(MB)EPnPROCIO(KB/s) FromToamlamlamlamlam - Pastebin.com
jurov: i see only dns refresh now
kakobrekla: i see Well this is somewhat embarrassing, isn’t it?
jborkl: Sup guys
BingoBoingo: Not too much
mircea_popescu: !up net
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla so click the linx
kakobrekla: dunno home page brokd
mircea_popescu: anyway, problem solved, cazalla BingoBoingo carry on.
BingoBoingo: Cool
cazalla: ty
BingoBoingo: I'm kind of impressed we burned through a shitbox so quickly
mircea_popescu: the net is full of crap, and instead of people urinating the mouths of crapmongers a la matt mullenweg and co,
mircea_popescu: they are invited to conferences and people listen to them as if they were people
mircea_popescu: the net result is that unless you're rich and powerful, you're fucked.
mircea_popescu: this is perhaps the most immoral state of affairs one could imagine
mircea_popescu: and it all stems from the boneheaded tolerance to idiocy and incompetence that has become part of western culture.
mircea_popescu: the next best thing you can do for sugar, spice and everything nice, after owning some bitcoin, is beating your kids when they fuck up.
mircea_popescu: so keep that in mind as you age.
thestringpuller: i thought that was common knowledge
mircea_popescu: if it were common knowledge there wouldn't be 100k+ broken wordpress installs all over the net.
thestringpuller: What is that saying, "Have you ever thought of turning off the TV, sitting down with your children and hitting them?"
thestringpuller: Oops the actual quote: "Have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?"
bounce: eh, your cute widdle powerpuff girls will beat you up instead
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/qntra-ddos.png << graphs, if anyone's curious.
cazalla: yeah, i don't mind that others beat their kids, not so sure i'd beat my own
mircea_popescu: there's gotta be some enforced responsibility somehow, somewhere
mircea_popescu: otherwise everyone sinks in this mire of "creativity" and bullshit.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu:nanotube could the defaults on viewratingdetail.php be sorted by time rather than by rate'rs total point count ? it kinda pointlessly emphasises a meaningless measure, as-is. <<< iirc this used to be the way it worked, and only recntly changed to sort by rater total rating.
BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/522166568554229760
assbot: After DOS /qntra is back on stronger hosting http://t.co/PHhj2UHsaJ http://t.co/yCT4FzNaKh
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i recall the same thing, was kinda surprised.
mircea_popescu: for the lulz : logs are... 135.53 MB now.
thestringpuller: less than an episode of seinfeld
mircea_popescu: that's what, 1mn lines in an hour ? herp.
cazalla: ok dns refreshed but i see old posts, not new ones, do you guys see the IS article or write for qntra on front page?
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2014/10/unofficial-is-site-shut-down-seeks-bitcoin-donations/ ?
assbot: Unofficial IS Site Shut Down, Seeks Bitcoin Donations
cazalla: do you see that on front page?
Adlai sees write for
jurov: it worked once, now i'm back at "dns refresh"
mircea_popescu: linked there on the right
cazalla: hmm something is messed up then
Adlai: but yes, recent posts includes real recent posts
nubbins`: ;;notes nubbins
gribble: Sent 1 week, 6 days, 6 hours, and 48 minutes ago: <DoctorBTC> Got the print. Nice!
nubbins`: how can i clear this?
nubbins`: ;;notes nubbins
gribble: Sent 1 week, 6 days, 6 hours, and 48 minutes ago: <DoctorBTC> Got the print. Nice!
jurov: do /nick nubbins
nubbins`: oh, duh
nubbins: any messages, gribs?
nubbins`: ;;notes nubbins
gribble: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
nubbins`: RIGHT ON
jurov: what's the business with the mini schlong, anyway?
nubbins`: nice one
nubbins`: `jurov` it's scammer-proof
`jurov` feels quoted properly
nubbins`: employees `must` wash hands after using toilet
`jurov` invented antiscam quotes. beat that!
`jurov`: they will be implemented in php soon
punkman: kakobrekla, deedbot needs a home, you got a corner it can sit in?
kakobrekla: what does it need
punkman: a terrarium for its snakes
kakobrekla: heh
punkman: (virtualenv)
punkman: it also runs an electrum daemon
punkman: and need some sort of webserver of interface
punkman: *for interface
kakobrekla: who is going to maintain this?
punkman: I will
kakobrekla: ok
kakobrekla: i can raise you an instance at do
kakobrekla: debian?
punkman: the thing I want to avoid is securing the server outside the app
punkman: I could write an Ansible playbook if given detailed steps
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00073657 = 20.624 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: hold on
kakobrekla: a bit of emergency here
danielpbarron: !up Lycerion
Lycerion: assbot huh
Lycerion: clever
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00073738 = 18.5451 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: ass for assets, obv
nubbins`: !t h hif
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HIF] 1D: 0.00003999 / 3.999E-5 / 0.00003999 (14 shares, 0.00055986 BTC), 7D: 0.00003727 / 3.763E-5 / 0.00004097 (5931 shares, 0.22317780 BTC), 30D: 0.00003010 / 4.719E-5 / 0.00009799 (23563 shares, 1.11205519 BTC)
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 403.33, Best ask: 403.37, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 403.33, 24 hour volume: 24830.68690172, 24 hour low: 390.48, 24 hour high: 417.99, 24 hour vwap: 404.124433348
nubbins`: 417! imagine
nubbins`: 1btc=1xau by xmas
nubbins`: oh and they withdrew the charges for the 3 parking tickets
nubbins`: i didn't even get to present my case :/