assbot: Sprint Will Sell a $12 Wireless Plan that Only Connects to Facebook or Twitter - Digits - WSJ
BingoBoingo: You can ask him questions, but given his problems I doubt he'll assist in providing the opposition with discovery
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 205 Ask: 248 Last Price: 205 24h-Vol: 67k High: 210 Low: 203 VWAP: 206
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 520922.58 in 592 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -24.19
gribble: Current Blocks: 313249 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1246 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 8 hours, 56 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19706093769.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.17522
BingoBoingo: Fucking BitBet authors can make anything seem close
assbot: BitBet - Billy Hamilton Rookie of the Year :: 0.08 B (28%) on Yes, 0.19 B (72%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 64`469 (100`000 to 1)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00078795 = 5.9096 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: <FoOdies5> maybe keep the coin from going up << and in the process acquire btc to drive it up. this is central banking 101, except one needs a) to not be a scammer and b) to actually work as marketmaker
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: b) to actually work as marketmaker << This is actually ATC's great innovation.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Well, it is the first viable alternative to testnet, because instead of an absence of value a la tetnet ATC offers at a minimum a small value. In the sense that someone is byuing ATC.
BingoBoingo: There is no promise that ATC's marketmaker will enforce any floor in price indefinitely, but the fact that the Market Marker's manager actually wants to buy metric fucktons of ATC means you can finally take crypto quarters to the arcade.
ben_vulpes: this microvalue routine of atc is pretty neat
ben_vulpes: not really an arcade in the classic sense. i'm barely old enough to remember the glory days.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: You know they still have that kind of arcade in highway rest stop pornstores
BingoBoingo: Or are you not talking about the jackoff booths?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34950 @ 0.00079276 = 27.707 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: one time when i was but a wee benkay a friend and i converted some dollars into nickels, for to haul to the nickel arcade. we were walking up hawthorne in portland (which back in those days the Arby's might still have been operational or it might have been shuttered but in either case it wasn't actually demolished and turned into yuppy 'condo' shoeboxen yet), when of course some of the summertime transients petition us for our quarters
ben_vulpes: the particularly scruffy one gets butthurt about hearing my nickles jingle (what - i'm a joo, it turns me on) and makes a grab at me
ben_vulpes: i dodge - shit you not i kick his ankle and then run into the parking lot, where (again, not shitting in the slightest) he chases me in circles while his friend smokes a cigarette next to my friend.
ben_vulpes: eventually the hobo tires and gives up.
ben_vulpes: this is what growing up in portland was like.
mike_c: hey. thanks for the bump atruk.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: WoL is only the third MPEx backed game I've liked. The first was BitBEt, second world domination, third WoL.
mike_c: psh, anybody can do world domination
mike_c: hell the *french* did it once
BingoBoingo: mike_c> psh, anybody can do world domination << Napoleon could even take Ethiopia which was such an easy target the fucking Dagos took it a century later
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Also apparently mircea_popescu is unwelcome in West Virginia << how do you know she wasn't coming over to my place for a fuckvisit and taking her husband along for company ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> <BingoBoingo> Also apparently mircea_popescu is unwelcome in West Virginia << how do you know she wasn't coming over to my place for a fuckvisit and taking her husband along for company ? << Well, I figure if you put up with the US Border shit you'd stay long enough to need to take the girls and various collected officials for a walk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2020 @ 0.0007908 = 1.5974 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: So... Today I've found the perfect mobile phone. The Alcatel 871. It makes and recieves phone calls. It lets you text so you can get bitches. It has a built in flashlight. Also the ringer is totes loud so you can safely set it some distance from "the cage" and anything important
mircea_popescu: there';s a funny thing about that. around here the dogwalking service is very popular as a thing
mircea_popescu: there you go donw the street and you suddenly meet this dogflower/amoeba made out of 10-30 dogs connected to a one guy pistil
BingoBoingo: lol here people have yards so they assume their dogs exercise themselves and both get fat, unless they have a motivated dog who takes walks at night at roughly the same time I do.
mike_c: BingoBoingo:Apparently this dude who couldn't hit for a couple months is now actually in the rookie of the year race << lol. this is the bet you were swearing was ridiculous a few months ago right?
mircea_popescu: Barbara Jean "B.J." Geardello << this is a sort of gear bordello ?
mike_c: bitbet makes us all look dumb.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I's have to assume a fake name
BingoBoingo: mike_c: In this case I'm more of the opionion every other rookie is just sucking so much dick this year.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yet another way the usps lets everyone down, man and his friend alike
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It may be surprising but USPS is only shipper around here I like.
mircea_popescu: they do have this reputation for servicing shitholes...
Luke-Jr: fluffypony: lying isn't very nice
Luke-Jr: ben_vulpes: that Eligius was involved
Luke-Jr: also that there was an attacdk
Luke-Jr: I shut it down myself, without any need for attacks
Luke-Jr: the other miners were a joke, so I was pretty much 99% of the network
Luke-Jr: and I just set reasonable fee requirements that nobody bothered to pay
Luke-Jr: ie, the cost of actually processing the transaction - which was admittedly near infinite on a worthless scamcoin
mircea_popescu: guy could work in washington dc. "i didn't rape her your honor, i just slapped her around a little. with a club."
mircea_popescu: "she sucked at fucking anyway and was old and annoying"
dub: boat sailed on that analogy
dub: it was gods will that she submit remember
Luke-Jr: more like "she wanted to pay me for sex, and I refused"
mircea_popescu: so let's meet in the middle. "she wanted to buy birth control in my pharmacy so i shot her."
Luke-Jr: except I didn't shoot anyone
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: if the SEC dies because you set a precedent of non-cooperation, is that a corpse?
Luke-Jr: nonsense, it was just a fiction in the first place
Luke-Jr: fictional entities don't leave corpses
ben_vulpes: altcoins are fictional, bitcoin is the sole truth
mircea_popescu: this would be why your marriage does leave a corpse, while your boyhood dreams do not.
ben_vulpes: derps outside the office derping at each other
ben_vulpes: me: "uh. well. enough. this is my place of business."
ben_vulpes: derp a to the right, derp b to the left.
punkman: "We know you've grown up, and so has Gaia. That's why we've launched Tentacl, an engaging forum experience created for savvy adults like you"
punkman: it doesn't even have any tentacle porn
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: What I value about USPS is they deliver on a promised, fast timeline. Fedex and USPS seem to encounter... delays...
assbot: Naughty Sorceress - TheKolWiki
duduqa: Hi, folks! I'm just an average Joe from Brazil. Here are some mundane news in case it might be interesting for the logs: volume is rising at exchanges (not all of them are depicted at
http://exchangewar.info/coinprice?BRL_BTC), price higer than the local blue dollar, facebook group at over 9,000 participants, Zipzap and equivalents working here. We have even our newborn bitpay-equivalent: pagcoin.com
assbot: Exchange war: pair not found
BingoBoingo: Fedex has the weird routing, but UPS has hubs in nowheresville so far removed from my nowheresville when there's actually a UPS hub near an urban center close to my middle of nowhere
duduqa: yes...we have the ptax\commercial dollar (cheaper, used for credit card purchases) and the blue dollar, which is roughly the ptax + 6.38% international purchase tax (which you have to pay in case you use your credit or debit card)
duduqa: at the top of the bubble, price reached over USD 1,400 here
duduqa: Brazilian most popular finance website (infomoney.com.br) quotes the bitcoin price and has a dedicated bitcoin columnist - Fernando Ulrich (pretty good)
mircea_popescu: any idea why is it called blue dollar ? rather than maroon or w/e ?
assbot: Amazon.com: 3D Printing Store
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: For same reason as Blue Balls
duduqa: in Brazil we call "dolar paralelo"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: perhaps the individual components could be made inscrutable and pieced together into a working...piece?
duduqa: small meetups are happening, small whatsapp groups are forming and people are slowling buying, fearing another maxidevaluation of BRL
assbot: Bitcoin trading website accused of defrauding thousands of customers - LA Times
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -5 for user coingenuity has been recorded.
duduqa: It's actually taken for granted by most of the local economists
duduqa: as of today, 1 USD = 2,25 BRL
duduqa: I don't know, but I'd rather have my exposure reduced once the Fed rises (even minimally) its rates
BingoBoingo clarifies that is not greater than three, but an actual lion with physical delivery
duduqa: It's been easier to "sell" the bitcoin idea during these times of fear of becoming another Venezuela
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform " isn't the whole point of the theoretical 'printed arms' that"
mircea_popescu: obviously the point must be something else than actual use.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell thickasthieves "<<" has won over "//"
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell chetty "<<" has won over "//"
ben_vulpes: no hardened steel necessary, simply visit...hardware store.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> hence 'theoretical' << Home depot uzi is a more feasible thing the 3d printed
mircea_popescu: kuzetsa: I'm flattered I suppose --- someone from here (presumably) is vaguely stalking me & now following me on twitter O_O << you knwo, someone following you on twitter is not stalking in any sense.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'd still rather have a CNC mill again than any 3d printer.
ben_vulpes: in my experience it's slightly more cost effective (and entertaining!) to buy an actual fuck-off big-boy-pants mill and bolt the steppers on oneself.
mircea_popescu: @SecondMarket Can I be CEO? << no tat, that' the onl;y thing you can't be. everything elkse tho..
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: my niggas need educating how much do I have to pay you to whip em in to shape if I sent them to Argentina?
thestringpuller: I can send the females. No putting your penis inside them tho as form of payment. :P
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, random stuff from my pmbox : "That hot lesbian dentist bought 0.5 BTC today"
mike_c: why are you guys negrating based on some latimes story that offered zero actual facts?
BingoBoingo: I can send the females. No putting your penis inside them tho as form of payment. :P << I assume this is a part of the process
mike_c: all i saw in there was a link to the forums..
mircea_popescu: mike_c fact one is that the guy who used to claim he has >1k undelivered actually has a name now ; fact two is that this has been a topic of conversation here, for months.
BingoBoingo: <mike_c> Actual facts have been known since late 2012. Coinabul indeed broke bad.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: this normally requires 3-phase mains. and... a crane. and a concrete slab to park it... << crane's unnecessary. mill needen't be *that* big.
ben_vulpes: anyone who's not lifing heavy things regularly is going to rot quickly in their old age
mircea_popescu: one of the most wtf ads here is, "polenta. para quando necesitas polenta".
mircea_popescu: which literally says, cornmeal. for when you need cornmeal.
BingoBoingo: Well, if Imma make cornbread I need cornmeal.
ben_vulpes: yeah those cracked me up, mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: also most potato meals outside of "papas" which is bad fries
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Not too shocking, it is barely known here.
mircea_popescu: and their bread is an utter outrage. they have all these panaderias which sell sweets.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i thought it was the mainstay of the deep south.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm in the south part of the midwest, but have lived close to the wire.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: this thing is like a virus. << it's like two viruses making out.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00079352 = 8.6494 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 3-phase isn't that hard to come by.
mircea_popescu pronounced cairo kay-ro all over egypt, to much botherment of everyone.
ben_vulpes: no. i rent space in places suited for their uses.
ben_vulpes: this bay in which my butt is parked right now has it, for example. and concrete floors.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu pronounced cairo kay-ro all over egypt, to much botherment of everyone. << You would get along nicely in the first place the Blacks won the Civil rights movement in the US.
mircea_popescu: i get along nice everywhere, much to the butthurt surprise of all the people who imagine themselves experts in the matter on the grounds of derping a lot on the subject, and then never getting along anywhere really.
ben_vulpes: were i actually cutting parts, that's what i'd do. were i to buy a mill upon which i wanted to crank recreationally, well, i'd do things recreationally.
BingoBoingo: Cairo is basically the most civilized location in Illinois by virtue of being the Furthest from Shitcago.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm paying 550/mo for this bay.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Is your yard large enough for a corrugated metal shed?
BingoBoingo: So Home Depot still surpasses 3D printing yet again
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: played with the fancy self-leveling 'crete yet?
ben_vulpes: yup. if i recall its mechanics correctly, it uses surface tension to approximate a very flat surface.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: the shack has a sealed wooden floor, level enough for most purposes << Given your humidity this isn;t a permanent solution>
ben_vulpes: my concrete laying days are long past me
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5: what the fuck can you stabilize with a premine ? maybe keep the coin from going up <<< this is exactly correct . the braindamage going on here is that fuckwits understand you need resources to prop a coin, and lackin any resources they wish to... borrow them. since they're making a coin anyway it's ~easier~ to roll both into one. that this reduces to trying to pull yourself up by your own breeches is not some
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im frankly surprised you got a yard in dc.
mircea_popescu: forget all the weird machinery, install sundecks, allow desperate 30yo womenz to sun themselves for a blowjob + $100.
assbot: [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.27000000 / 0.30584317 / 0.34100000 (277 shares, 84.71855920 BTC), 7D: 0.12699999 / 0.2114412 / 0.34100000 (1276 shares, 269.79896649 BTC), 30D: 0.12200001 / 0.1894769 / 0.34100000 (3066 shares, 580.93617939 BTC)
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: and I think Weiner et. al. convinced him it could be "bigger" than an experiment <<< kinda remind me of the pernicious influence of max keiser, with his couple of scamcoins.
mircea_popescu: he recently convinced weev to "go the kickstarter route", with results that still make people lol.
mircea_popescu: basically people need to learn to stop taking talking heads srsly.
dub: wait for the crash when forumites realise there is no div money in the kitty
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> he recently convinced weev to "go the kickstarter route", with results that still make people lol. << Weev is going to learn the hard way he isn't old enough for Taleb or even Orlov's deference
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5: and now the daughter wants to be born on my b-day << it's pretty good sharing a bday with your daughter. you can take her drinking.
mircea_popescu: neuroMode: I think Brian Kelly is shooting himself in the foot by listening to the cryptogoblins pushing for POS << i still don't see how exactly they figure pos does anything, bitcoin is fucking white enough w/o it. but anyway, naut actually means chickpeas in romanian.
mircea_popescu: neuroMode: i wonder how many actual devs there are making these coins. Its likea fucking business now. I bet its like 5 groups of guys << more like 3.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: mypersonal favourite is the SummerCoinV2 whitepaper << iut's fucking disgraceful these idiots are allowed to use any words they wish. bring back the classroom ruler i say.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think what's meant is someone with the label.
mircea_popescu: ironically, because of idiocy like the us left and food stamps and the govt dole, people like armandi (who is still active btw) are making more moneys than your average ditch digger.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: So many armandia scams. Labcoin is a recent one
neuroMode: "white enough w/o it"? implying POS is geared more towards upper middle class america?
mircea_popescu: neuroMode white is a very old political identification, as opposed to 1700s red.
dub: finally got around to ordering vdsl
neuroMode: im not well-hung politically, pardon me
dub: gotta get pr0ns fast
mircea_popescu: ie, the supporters of stewart against the parliament, and of louis against the french revolution.
neuroMode: but yeah, i can believe 3 groups have made making POS coins a business
BingoBoingo: dub: Find a nice camgirl, invite her to your home.
neuroMode: and they will continue to reel in the suckers every week
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> arguably franco spain was the last white thing. << Well, until 2011
assbot: The story of Pointless and Witless pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
neuroMode: or at least create an environment where altcoins are not taken anymore seriously than cards at a blackjack table
BingoBoingo: <neuroMode> or at least create an environment where altcoins are not taken anymore seriously than cards at a blackjack table << I doubt you understand how serious blackjack is
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah but irl bitcoin is still more potential than actual cunt.
kakobrekla: dont do hd porn, you will end up on wiki searching up all the diseases.
neuroMode: i mean gambling wise. people know they will lose at times, they just put more money right back on the table
BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> dont do hd porn, you will end up on wiki searching up all the diseases. << Good reason to avoid whores willing to negotiate prices (in the april and may logs)
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: the ones that need to peg to another blockchain for security << this is not really all that true, in general the best use of resources should be mining the chain rather than attacking it.
neuroMode: and chalk up your losses to either not counting cards well enough or just bad luck and use the experience for helping next time
mircea_popescu: ^ this use the experience for helping next time shizzle...
BingoBoingo: neuroMode: No, I mean exactly that. There is a way to win blackjack, and that is you get moar comped drinks than you lose at the table.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that's not winning, that's getting drunk on your own success.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo that's not winning, that's getting drunk on your own success. << What is a greater example of winning than losing exactly the house edge over 8 hours and drinking to success on the top shelf?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: but not before people made payments that were 1/100000 of what they meant to pay << fucking idiots for srs. 5 zeros ? why, because 8 and 5 are mutually prime ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well they don't overcharge the person they are comping...
ben_vulpes: aren't all drinks outside the home overcharged for?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but when you do your winning math << I try to blackjack to the house edge.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes went out with some friends local thai restaurant, ordered champagne. pretty decent stuff. like 20 bux a bottle ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> you count retail do you not. I count versus package liquor store prices
mircea_popescu: went to bdsm event, bought champagne, pretty decent stuff. 30 bux a bottle.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i doubt you can have anything drinkable in the us for under 1k a bottle.
BingoBoingo: Sometimes I compare to the compromise favored hole in the wall bar prices.
mircea_popescu: haven't tested this extensively for lack of giving a shit.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i doubt you can have anything drinkable in the us for under 1k a bottle. << I don't drink much wine, because I'm too picky for the normal local selection, but I'll get five bottles of Egri Bikaver at the supermarket in hopes I can three are palatable.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the only time i had decent stuff in the us was in san antonio (for breakfast!) and i didn't pay. so pure guesswork on my part.
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5: are all crypto enthusiasts doing drugs ? << i'm not.
BingoBoingo: Generally though in the US bourbons and ryes are drinkable. Bottom shelf vodka is more drinkable than top shelf.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14837 @ 0.00078795 = 11.6908 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: 1 double cherry truck of bitcoins = 960149127168 satoshi = 9601491.27168 mBTC = 9601.49127168 BTC << ahahh o kako!
BingoBoingo: Bottom shelf vodka is more drinkable than top shelf. << Reason for this is cheap American vodka starts with close to pure ethanol and is them water down to vodka
BingoBoingo: As linked a while back Mega factory MGD makes terrific rye whiskey so pick the cheapest label slapped on it
BingoBoingo: Honestly for Hard liquor in America, the more you pay the more likely you are to be scammed
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Fucking BitBet authors can make anything seem close <<< clearly a conspiraci.
BingoBoingo: I'll confess to writing the 21 Billion at the end of meteorological summer bet. The Billy Hamilton bet though must have been Ohio scum.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: i dodge - shit you not i kick his ankle and then run into the parking lot, where (again, not shitting in the slightest) he chases me in circles while his friend smokes a cigarette next to my friend. << this sounds like a happy childhood.
BingoBoingo: I mean people emphasize the mean hobos while forgetting the friendly one
BingoBoingo: Because I simply cannot bring myself to throw away food, we are going to eat from the prison commissary tonight.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 'twas a good childhood. you'd probably disapprove of how easily i had it, but it was nice.
ben_vulpes: chatting with garbage men in the alley while reading in my backyard bush
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i don't disprove at all. i had it easy too.
ben_vulpes: riding my bike all over town (what american child can ride a bike around their town?!)
mircea_popescu: my philosophy is not that it should be hard, but merely that if anyone complains, of anything, it should be made worse for them.
mircea_popescu: like, chick's whining about her feet hurting ? well now she has to run around in a circle around me while i walk.
mircea_popescu: and generally you know, always give the worst worker the hardest job with the shittiest tools etc.
jwSchool: quassel@utdpat242006.utdallas.edu
FoOdies5: jwSchool don't sweat nigga all we romanians are douchey
FoOdies5: doesn't hold me back from being racist and homophobic
jwSchool: I work with a romanian organic chemist
BingoBoingo: jwSchool: Know anything about chiral ladders?
jwSchool not organic chemist, thankfully
FoOdies5: I was talking about the gypsy part
jwSchool: I'd rather not breathe chloroform and stuff all day
FoOdies5: and I just said I just watched a few episodes of the boondocks so I might sound a bit ghetto for a while
jwSchool: by not being an organic chemist?
FoOdies5: that was the answer of the month
BingoBoingo: jwSchool: Chlorophorm is easy, sodium hypochlorite solution + ETOH solution. Now transorming into dex-methoform is a challenge
FoOdies5: fuck zebracoin's saving endangered zebra species
mircea_popescu: <jwSchool> by not being an organic chemist? << not bad.
jwSchool: since they have several coins now
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Bed time experiment still a thing?
ben_vulpes: w/out flux to change the daylight around, it'd have to be 945
FoOdies5: mircea_popescu you friends with zoso ?
FoOdies5: I thought you were friends with some romanian douche blogger
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> hard screens off at 1045 pm << holy shit !?
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5 i think i'm well hated by virtually all the romanian would be bloggers.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like i'm well hated by virtually all bitcoin would-be ceos.
FoOdies5: don't worry I don't like you that much either
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> <ben_vulpes> hard screens off at 1045 pm << holy shit !? << early to bed, early to rise...
FoOdies5: I was refering to this "Bine ca l-au gasit pe cel cu rig-ul in pod si pe Vuscan, dar de Mircea Popescu (vechi prieten de al lui Zoso) – care are cea mai relevanta bursa de actiuni in bitcoin – nu au zis nimic."
FoOdies5: you a rap star now nigga, bitches claiming they know you and shit
mircea_popescu: well no, just, the ragazines that pretend to be romanian press have an ancient interdict with me, is the thing.
FoOdies5: srsly tho, good thing you're not friends with that shitface
FoOdies5: I would have hated you even more
mircea_popescu: some chick wanted to interview me once over a corruption scandal, pisse dme the fuck off, i ended up putting a pay barrier in place
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5 how do you know random nobodies from like nowehre to the degree you'd give a shit either way ?!
FoOdies5: oh please, have you ever seen these shitheads talk about bitcoin on tv ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform truely. everyone in some sectors is used to pay in promises.
FoOdies5: I was browsing one night and I stumbled upon a show talking about bitcoin
FoOdies5: a full half hour of the guy from btcxchange trying to explain bitcoin to an old ass relic
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5 you old enough to have seen bruce wagner's old lolstuff ?
assbot: Actual Internet Etiquette: Trackbacks and Spam | Bingo Blog
mircea_popescu: his last thing was, iirc, interviewing the stupid-had-fuckface, before his innovative genuis idea turned scam
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform shudders to think of what kind of 'bitcoin' could be seen on u.s. tv << I'll get you a video most horrifying
FoOdies5: I was too busy being in jail with the camataru brothers in 2012 lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.00078789 = 10.9911 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Basically trackbacks are great and you can curate them, but because link /= citation spammers on this protocol when identified need super spanked until they correct
FoOdies5: cuz I learned english from watching tv back when cartoon network was still not dubbed lol
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo but what's the offense, someone sending fake trackbacks that don't exist on the actual page ?
FoOdies5: also I'm very maleable so whatever I watch on tv/laptop that day I kinda start talking like that
FoOdies5: also the quality of the cartoons is next to nil
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Someone sending trackbacks I couldn't see, because linked in ad looking blindspot
FoOdies5: yeah no now it's this stupid ass weirdly animated shit
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo just grep the html of the page, it's what i do.
FoOdies5: luckily there's boomerang who still broadcasts golden stuff
FoOdies5: like some hannah barbera shows
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And that's why I had to assume spam.
FoOdies5: flintstones, jetsons some looney toons
BingoBoingo: Link to post was not visible without encondomed browser
FoOdies5: but seriously tho, seenig what kids these days grow up on, we're pretty much fucked
BingoBoingo: But instead stuck in one of those ad things
FoOdies5: so save them bitcoins for old age
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe see if a neighbor girl can offer an explanation as a test?
assbot: TV Show The Blacklist mentions Bitcoin - YouTube
assbot: FBI-ul a cerut extradarea celui mai tare hacker din Romania. Reteaua ilegala avea si magazin online
FoOdies5: reteaua ilegala avea si magazin online, tare asta
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: Are you USG in Costana entrapping?
FoOdies5: your joke was too smooth for me to handle
FoOdies5: I'm still not fine tuned with the high level of references used in bitcoin-assets
FoOdies5: Hell I managed to stay cell boss over some pretty badass guys
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: For all I know you could have been an emigre at middle school age, and now you're a terminal lance stationed at Costana assigned to intel
mircea_popescu: i mean he still sucked, but at least he was better at it.
BingoBoingo: I mean DreadKnight at least showed a classic romanian taste in game aesthetics
FoOdies5: I did have a friend that got busted 2 months after I did in constanta
FoOdies5: haha nigga was visiting some hacker friends trying to learn some new shit
FoOdies5: I mean he also had a record but he did 4 months for visiting his friends tho
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: I'm sorry, I'm just a pasty white victim of violence in the Middle West.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00079353 = 4.5628 BTC [+]
FoOdies5: wait that's only west from a chinaman's perspective
mircea_popescu: dude i find it dubious you survived in prison, considering how much talking out of teh ass you do.
FoOdies5: also prison !== preempttive arest
FoOdies5: there's quite less violence and organization there
BingoBoingo is still in the russian concept of "Big Jail" over that alleged misdemeanor "turrurism" phone call
FoOdies5: although trying to explain the concept to a pompous prick does seem like a lost cause
mircea_popescu: yeah, it sucks because you're in with noobs and not as likely to be able to bring massive support to bear.
mircea_popescu: which is why generally people prefer going with their retinue.
FoOdies5: anyway, I'm out, perhaps we'll get the chance to meet in this lifetime I'd really love to flip you off in real life just for using unnecessarily complicated words in an irc channel
BingoBoingo is prolly going to have to walk to civilization
assbot: Falkenblog: Piketty's Terrifying Dystopia
BingoBoingo: Because it looks like no scheduled court date I have is ever going to be an actual trial
mircea_popescu: decimation intellectuals SHOULD run everything. the only problem is that the courtiers of the french republic are not intellectuals.
decimation: some Marxists think that the ancien regime was unfairly taxed because the richest were taxed at the lowest rates (or immune from tax)
decimation: this seems to be the right idea to me, the principle being that the state recognizes those who are beyond its reach
mircea_popescu: and it wasn;t the richest. it was the better. which is what the peerage is : the better people.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3074 @ 0.00078708 = 2.4195 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: A nasty old drunk in Carmel thinks it funny to piss in the well. He says, "Some don't favor that unusual flavor, but I don't drink the stuff -- what the hell!"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 5900 @ 0.00026477 = 1.5621 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 265 @ 0.00257044 = 0.6812 BTC [-] {6}
ben_vulpes: hey mircea_popescu how much for a two-fer?
mircea_popescu: A rapturous young fellatrix one day was at work on five pricks. With an unholy cry she whipped out her glass eye: "Tell the boys I can now take on six."
ben_vulpes: what does hard screens off have to do with why i logged off prev'ly?
ben_vulpes: that was in response to bb's q re bedtime experiment
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Are you really contacting your bouncer on a phone of some sort?
ben_vulpes: heck no BingoBoingo i'm just blessed with internet and gin wherever i goes
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if it includes the woman that'll make a vulpe vulpes then by all means. BUT NONE OF THAT NO FACE BULLSHEIT.
ben_vulpes: you've been taking no face for weeks noW!
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Roll up screens? What is a hard vs. soft screen?
mircea_popescu: speaking odf which, store here put bags on all the manequins heads with like "discount!!1" and so on . shit was eerie.
ben_vulpes: moving the goalposts on me boss this is not how you run a business
ben_vulpes: aight give me a hash i'll see what i can do
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> moving the goalposts on me boss this is not how you run a business << Check my tweets to Ben Lawsky I am running a charity
mircea_popescu: sure, they gotta come here and link to their previous work tho.
mircea_popescu: none of this toe in the large ocean of sluttery i say.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 35 @ 0.022 = 0.77 BTC
assbot: Unsee — Free online private photo sharing
BingoBoingo: Fucking cock shit, this is why I bet on sports far less frequently than I used to.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7553 @ 0.00078708 = 5.9448 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Oh, only 10 Wot Additions later than Ms. Boring
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Want to bet on something risky?
gribble: Error: 'girl' is not a valid integer.
assbot: Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: How comfortable do you feel that we can put a price on my ascending before next rollover?
ben_vulpes: no js is kinda your problem, mircea_popescu
ben_vulpes: anyone interested can see the thing, i'm also emailing it to you.
BingoBoingo: JS is everyone's problem. WHy did we let it start?\
ben_vulpes: wow this girl's internet hates the bitcoin client
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i was expecting a lot more obvious drunkedness tbh. but sober ? maybe you should write a book.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski yo when do you bring the bittits?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00078803 = 3.2309 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Also you may be comforted to know KOL uses NGINX instead of dead Injuns
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15052 @ 0.00078708 = 11.8471 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, sorry about that i got distracted with something
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: It's cool prolly nothing to bet on today seems like I'm totes ascending later
danielpbarron: I've never been that into optimizing ascention stuff; my main account has never done it since before it was even an option
BingoBoingo: Well it would only be for the second time since you sold me meat, both on challenge paths
BingoBoingo: Eh, not so hard, you kill the naughty sourceress
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud i KNEW! it was some odd idiosybncratic thing
mircea_popescu: and now that ben_vulpes delivered the goods, the quest is on :
mircea_popescu: what string and what hash has produced the leading d49250d4 ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00078708 = 5.1947 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: have you never ascended before?
danielpbarron: I have with another account; but yeah my original account has never done it, and I even have the trophy I got for logging in the day ascention rolled out
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Wait you are that old and never wanted to inherit another class's skills?
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, at first I wanted to give it time to let others spade it out; eventually I decided I'd go for the wow factor of having a really old account that never ascended; plus I was mostly interested with the Mall, which is easier to use if you aren't focused on optimizing runs
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Ah, I made I guess... the mistake of doing some hardcore ascensions, but... I'm enjoying these new challenge paths
xanthyos: i ascended twice, having realized that i only felt comfortable in my original saucery
BingoBoingo: I mean not ascending has advantages... You're always ready for crimbo...
xanthyos: BingoBoingo: what's your kol account name?
xanthyos: are you the guy who gave danielpbarron btc for meat?
xanthyos: through the Mr. A conversion tool
BingoBoingo: I kinda hoped he'd close his XCP thing, but... He didn't
xanthyos: Account Created:October 17, 2006
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: If you want some Crimborg shit though...
xanthyos: i do nothing but study at canada school
xanthyos: You must gain 315 Mysticality to advance to level 202.
assbot: Truvada: It's Time To Take the Fucking Pill
xanthyos: all iwant is meat, adventures, or adventure-generating foods
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: I'd part with a whole time outfit for the right price
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: I also have a sneaky pete's jacket I won't need much longer
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.00099999 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $450 before September"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1010/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 94(Y):6(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.101 BTC. Current weight: 99,965.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so what is this, random gawker dude got his payola ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Looks like it. He was for the longest time anti gay pill. Now he is pro gay pill
dub: he's mostly just retarded
dub: how the fuck this makes into a weblogsite I've heard of escapes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12849 @ 0.00078708 = 10.1132 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00078708 = 7.7921 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: OMG sick and not sick ===== If you are on Truvada, you're medicating yourself (hopefully) every day, like someone with HIV. You're being closely monitored by your doctor with tests every three months to make sure you're negative and that your body is functioning properly, like someone with HIV. The cultural divide between the positive and the negative erodes, as it should.
dub: shitload more people are on permanent omeprazole scrips
dub: which is prozac for your gut
dub: in that in has no benefit that cannot be found naturally
BingoBoingo: dub: Prozac is totally prozac for your gut, there is no organ in which prozac is moar active
dub: oh hey its on the World Health Orgs List of Really Neat Drugs That We Are Paid To Put In Our List
dub: my meaning is prozac et al is usually prescribed when the doctor cbf and isnt a real doctor
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00078708 = 7.2411 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23250 @ 0.00078673 = 18.2915 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00078629 = 5.7006 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15529 @ 0.00078629 = 12.2103 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell danielpbarron turns out was able to ascend
HeySteve: my connection is a yo-yo again so not worth the trouble to auth
BingoBoingo: Well, from joins and parts doesn't look near as bad as before
HeySteve: dunno if you caught it in the logs, but I'm working on a new kind of gambling
HeySteve: nah it's more stable and I took off the autojoin
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes i was expecting a lot more obvious drunkedness tbh. but sober ? maybe you should write a book. << book? what book. "hey. tits? they're worth 0.1 btc now, which i'll hold for you indefinitely. let's tits. tits everyone? great."
BingoBoingo: Is your new gambling comparable to anything?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00078803 = 2.9945 BTC [+]
HeySteve: it's like if you could gamble on a choose your own adventure story
ben_vulpes: why not actually play btc the game though, HeySteve ?
HeySteve: sure I've earned and bought my share
BingoBoingo: My favorite way to read those books in the past was page by page
HeySteve: hmm training your memory for the card table perhaps?
HeySteve: my grandparents could recall all the cards played in a game of bridge. they'd review it afterwards, my grandfather criticizing granny's play
HeySteve: my memory's good but not nearly that good
Vexual: although, granny can't remember whose carkeys she chose
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Your grandparents still do key parties?
HeySteve: heh doubt that ever happened, they were real godly folk
ben_vulpes: Vexual: come on baby don't leave me hanging
DreadKnight: ben_vulpes, you nickname? not fond of MMORPGs as well, even got a bit insulted you thought I was making one, lol
DreadKnight: BingoBoingo, doing a bit of coding overall, what are you up to?
HeySteve: someone should make a Terry Pratchett game and call it Ankh-MMORPG
BingoBoingo: DreadKnight: Just getting ready for the month to end
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021718 B (Total: 474.94 B). Delta: -0.34 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15339 @ 0.00078803 = 12.0876 BTC [+]
DreadKnight: BingoBoingo, well you can just sit back and relax for time to pass, no need to do anything special; unless you listed something on MPEx xD
BingoBoingo: DreadKnight: Well, I market make ATC for MPIF
Vexual: whats happening won the atc scene?
Vexual: yes, i haven't tried it get, i felt woozy last time i looked
BingoBoingo: I'll try to get the statement for how it was traded out on the 1st
DreadKnight: average total costs for mircea popescu investment fund, BingoBoingo ?
HeySteve: I saw WoL is influenced by the blockchain, how does that work?
BingoBoingo: DreadKnight: What do you mean by average total costs?
DreadKnight: BingoBoingo, not sure what ATC stands for otherwise
BingoBoingo: HeySteve: WoL actions happen as a result of blockchain events
Vexual: is there, like a cool workspace with an old streetfighter machine so I can remeber all my old combos while depositing?
HeySteve: BingoBoingo, I like that idea. want to use the blockchain myself as a kind of public dice roll
BingoBoingo: So... the peace corps is evacuating west Africa over Ebola
Vexual: whatcu mean evacuating, sucka?
Vexual: coz that sounds counterproductive
HeySteve: as long as that shit doesn't spread to south africa
DreadKnight: found it interesting that Mark Shuttleworth got rich in Africa
BingoBoingo: Vexual: I mean fleeing because they don't want Ebola since apparently white people get it nao
BingoBoingo: White Africans are everything wrong with Humanity
HeySteve: yeah shuttleworth invented some kinda certificate authority... thawt
BingoBoingo: Well, White Africans, Ohio, and Wrigleyville
DreadKnight: always profitable to establish yourself as "the shit" and make others strive and pay for your recognition
DreadKnight: HeySteve, I knew it had something to do with hardware, but that certificate made the real money?
HeySteve: I think so, yeah. not sure why Web of Trust hasn't been more widely adopted over CAs
HeySteve: guess key parties aren't cool or something
DreadKnight: CAs tend to me more iconic and profitable, meaning more marketing done as well to brainwash people
DreadKnight: CAs are older concept in the industry, better rooted
HeySteve: hmm probably but WoT goes back to early days of PGP
BingoBoingo: Well, a CA is pretty much the definition of a pre-approved stooge
HeySteve: yeah it's another area ripe for blockchain monopoly busting (probably)
gribble: Error: "reputation" is not a valid command.
Vexual: where the answer is ruianable
Vexual: Hi BB, How have things been?
cazalla: Vexual, rainbow edition at the pub? fight me cunt
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 250 @ 0.00399754 = 0.9994 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: Cooking With Hoarders: How to wake up in the morning Part 2 - YouTube
punkman: paypal: "o hai we removed your bank account because" me: "because what?" paypal: "loldunno, not enough IBAN maybe" me: "can't add new bank" paypal: "try again in next 4 hours, I enables u" me: "YOUR SHIT NO WORK" paypal: "lolsorry, send bank statements to try again"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00078739 = 6.8897 BTC [-]
punkman: I'm going with "FUCK YOU, ONLINE BANKING NO PAPER" but I don't think it's gonna work
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00078705 = 1.1806 BTC [-]
punkman: maybe they'll take screenshot of bank account?
BigBitz: can you download your statementS? My bank lets me do that.
punkman: sure I can print all kinds of bank website
punkman: this nonsense gives me heartburn every time
punkman: oh and this is like 1 reply per day, it's gonna take a while
punkman: ;;rate paypal -10 fuuuuuuuu
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user paypal has been recorded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00078705 = 6.6112 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 35 @ 0.0144 = 0.504 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15592 @ 0.00078861 = 12.296 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29989851 = 0.5998 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8061 @ 0.00079192 = 6.3837 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00079297 = 18.7934 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00079353 = 0.9919 BTC [+]
thickasthieves: <+ben_vulpes> riding my bike all over town (what american child can ride a bike around their town?!) /// more than would like to admit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00079113 = 3.7974 BTC [-]
thickasthieves: <+mircea_popescu> reddit is not a race. /// it's a picture of the finish line
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 570.99, Best ask: 573.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.01000, Last trade: 570.97, 24 hour volume: 10596.14928038, 24 hour low: 555.9, 24 hour high: 579.76, 24 hour vwap: 567.332041638
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
assbot: Pissed about Bitcoin Prices? Some of the blame falls on the Bitcoin Foundation. Medium
t_a_t: "14 days Matonis. 14 days Foundation. Come clean with what your executive directors are really doing in “off hours” or we will do it for you."
chetty: <t_a_t> "14 days Matonis. 14 days Foundation. Come clean with what your executive directors// plural??
t_a_t: "You see, what Matonis doesn’t want anyone to know is that while he is saying to expect smoother trading Exante has been in a non-stop dumping of Bitcoin via Bermuda."
t_a_t: ;;later tell ben_vulpes "<< has won over //" You can't cramp my style.
t_a_t: my summary understanding:
t_a_t: guy is somehow involved in the paperwork for TBF's euro applications or such, thus accessed some rare financial and ownership data. To him, the nature and/or timing of this data is in direct conflict with public statements by matonis and/or the guy's own law of reddit moral code. The jury is out.
punkman: mircea_popescu: not yet but fuck them anyway
mircea_popescu: "The cultural divide between the positive and the negative erodes, as it should." what the fuck is wrong with these idiots. why exactly SHOULD the "cultural divide" between the failed and the successful "erode" ?
t_a_t: i still cant find TBF in Guidestar, fwiw
assbot: Page not found | The Bitcoin Foundation
chetty: <mircea_popescu> "The cultural divide between the positive and the negative erodes, as it should." what the fuck is wrong with these idiots. why exactly SHOULD the "cultural divide" between the failed and the successful "erode" ?// so we cna get to the great sameness
mircea_popescu: why would i want to be the same with some hiv positive faggot ?
assbot: Page not found | The Bitcoin Foundation
mircea_popescu: o no wait, what i want doesn't matter, HE wants to be the same with me, and that's the controlling factor ?
chetty: the great sameness= death
mircea_popescu: but no, i don't have any vd, and never had. i just fuck the sluts & whores, other people are getting teh vds.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.27440001 = 4.116 BTC [-] {4}
t_a_t: i wonder if i saved the email for that accounting girl
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: book? what book. || "The Secret Redditors Hate : How I Got My Wife And Her BFF To Go Naked On The Internet For Fun And Profit Using Only Tools Avaialble in Any Kitchen In Twenty Minutes For Dummies. Bulleted List THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT BELIEVE."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9571 @ 0.00079113 = 7.5719 BTC [-]
t_a_t: Using This Weird Funny Trick
jurov: BF Uses This Weird Funny Trick That Bitcoiners Hate
fluffypony: I wonder why they don't just announce scrypt ASICs and become founding members of the Dogecoin Foundation
jurov: cuz even dogers don't want them
mircea_popescu: incredible the lengths to which they go to hide vessenes's multiple fraudulet activities from teh general public.
t_a_t: found the lady jodie@bitcoinfoundation.org
mircea_popescu: although, granny can't remember whose carkeys she chose << lmao
ThickAsThieves: "Previously, Jodie was Chief Financial Officer for CoinLab"
mircea_popescu: HeySteve: I think so, yeah. not sure why Web of Trust hasn't been more widely adopted over CAs << because CAs come with master keys.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i'm not keeping too close tabs on the whole debacle.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate genericpersona -10 Random muppet with unwarranted political aspirations.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user genericpersona has been recorded.
gribble: pigeons was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 20 hours, 37 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <pigeons> so far that seems accurate
ThickAsThieves: "Bitcoin Vietnam's 'digital gold' as faith in dong falls"
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves anyway, the good part isn't the 1.5mn they got and spent, the good part is the final assets, 15btc.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves now maybe my accounting's unfit for a goose, but how exactly do you go from 100k in assets to 4.5mn in assets when your net exercise is like 100k ?
mircea_popescu: wait my bad. the revenue is actually 800k, expenses 1.4mn.
mircea_popescu: notably, they got 70k in donations and 10x that from the "be a member and scam people" swindle.
ThickAsThieves: i'm seeing now how so not anonymous btc will be in the US
mircea_popescu: no see, still doesn't work. 2013-01-25 00:00:0017.1517.7216.1217.49 so 100k dollars in january 2013 means
mircea_popescu: 2013-12-31 00:00:00736.517397097327919.3199999999945763630.729999996727.7899999999995
mircea_popescu: so basically they started with 5.7k, ended with 6.4k and got a total of 700 btc donated counted at an average of 900, so most of them early 2013.
mircea_popescu: this is quite well fitting with the history, they were only actually declared persona non grata later on.
mircea_popescu: ipos CLAIM more than that, because ipos don't file for taxes, typically.
mircea_popescu: they posted a 77k investment income, which is probably a wrong statement,
mircea_popescu: whereas it should include that massive 4mn they got from btc
ThickAsThieves: say TBF sells 500btc at $200, but then price falls. Matonis sells 500btc for $150 and says the first set were his and second set was TBF
mircea_popescu: what the fuck must this moss adams thing be thinking to publish unbalanced tax returns is beyond the mind's boggle.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know if matonis wishes to donate $50 to the foundation he doesn't have to go to all this complex trouble. or you mean it the other way around
mircea_popescu: well this has been the objection since day one, vessenes is just using it as a piggybank
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 583.36, Best ask: 583.4, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 583.4, 24 hour volume: 10950.96660472, 24 hour low: 555.9, 24 hour high: 583.5, 24 hour vwap: 568.109554429
mircea_popescu: meh, that was on the plate, but eventually fell off. for one thing, addresses change, for the other some people are worried (sensibly or no) that it exposes them to various vulnerabilities.
ThickAsThieves: for businesses, probly has competition issues and other privacy problems
ThickAsThieves: for nonprofits, donors may not want their addy connected
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves moreover, bitcoin is supposed to be anon.
BigBitz: asciilifeform what is that from?
mircea_popescu: as a general principle supporting any deanonimization measures is uncanonical.
ThickAsThieves: it's the current knot in my brain lately, whether this phenomenon is actually the one that kills anonymity
ThickAsThieves: the aspects of bitcoin and decentralized networks that we all currently associae with anonymity
ThickAsThieves: the development that we can track everything reliably now
ThickAsThieves: referring to the same la serenissima topic from before
ThickAsThieves: where you can make a network that knows permanent record of all tx, and can now add identity network
ThickAsThieves: then once you do, it gains use, then becomes requirement
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves but the requirement for you to have a face in the forum does not equate to a requirement for you to have a face in the treasury
ThickAsThieves: what if everyone really did require WoT for any trust situation
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's important in some places. specifically, money handling.
mircea_popescu: generally people try to resolve through anonimity problems that have their solution elsewhere. because it's cheap.
rithm: ThickAsThieves I moved back to my "home town" outside of the city limits now I'm being annexed
rithm: city council next tuesday
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves not like you can't make a new key any time you want.
ThickAsThieves: right, but like i said, i'm envisioning some future where a new key is like being birn yesterday
mircea_popescu: this is what anonymity already is. not a matter of what we want.
ThickAsThieves: so basically people mostly arbitrage their anonymity via lies, deception, unaccountability, ignorant bliss
mircea_popescu: i think this was best discussed in relation to the perianne chick and my old class mate recently.
mircea_popescu: since the us has built this quite insane "valuation by social consensus" thing, people aim to impress others rather than do anything.
mircea_popescu: why is it so appealing. because standing in front of a bunch of people and telling them to get fucked is scary.
DreadKnight: the doge wants to play with that red ball xD
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22550 @ 0.00078598 = 17.7238 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1113 @ 0.00078803 = 0.8771 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: Once again, I'm putting out there an offer to pay someone to do some light work and compiling for the Altcoin wallet.
ThickAsThieves: I have a dream that one day this coin will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that Altcoins are created equal and can be used to purchase MPEx stocks."
mircea_popescu: anyone here have a positive view of teh demmurage notion ? fluffypony ? or who's the altcoin heretique du jour ?
fluffypony: I do think a minimum subsidy at around the 0.4% - 1.5% mark is a better approach
fluffypony: minsubsidy == lowest the block reward can go to
fluffypony: so the block reward will still taper down to that minsubsidy, but you'll never have a scenario where miner fees > block reward
mircea_popescu: once it's capped might as well make it fixed. 50 btc or w/e
fluffypony: yeah that's the other approach is to give it a fixed value instead of a % of supply
ben_vulpes: doge tried this. to disastrous results.
mircea_popescu: the difference between an infinite series and a finite series is marked. the difference between that last and a constant is not.
fluffypony: which then means your inflation goes down over time
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 584.0, Best ask: 589.98, Bid-ask spread: 5.98000, Last trade: 589.99, 24 hour volume: 11717.55646898, 24 hour low: 555.9, 24 hour high: 589.99, 24 hour vwap: 569.313572518
fluffypony: BigBitz: have you sold your Veyron to buy some more BTC?
BigBitz: lots of big buys last 30-60mins.
BigBitz: I don't even have a Bugatti toy car.
BigBitz: mircea_popescu probably has Bugatti(s).
ben_vulpes: he likes mercedes, of all the odd choices.
BigBitz: are you like 142 mircea_popescu?
ben_vulpes: mthreat, mircea_popescu, chetty, hanbot: seen any teslas in BsAs yet?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5770 @ 0.00079154 = 4.5672 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: “We’re not going to sign an agreement that jeopardizes the future of all Argentines.” He added: “Argentines can remain calm because tomorrow will just be another day and the world will keep on spinning.”
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13267 @ 0.00079131 = 10.4983 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.WOL] 25000 @ 0.0000485 = 1.2125 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX:S.WOL] 1D: 0.000042 / 0.0000485 / 0.00005 (25000 shares, 1.21 BTC), 7D: 0.000042 / 0.0000485 / 0.00005 (25000 shares, 1.21 BTC), 30D: 0.000042 / 0.0000488 / 0.00008888 (25900 shares, 1.26 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13469 @ 0.00078703 = 10.6005 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 130369 @ 0.00079496 = 103.6381 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6162 @ 0.00079849 = 4.9203 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: "fed boosts view of economy" "us stocks tank ~1%"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 36 @ 0.022 = 0.792 BTC
assbot: Apple to Cut About 200 Jobs at Beats - Digits - WSJ
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 191 @ 0.00268999 = 0.5138 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.71172100 BTC to 12`755 shares, 13420 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] [PAID] 5.58926680 BTC to 63`227 shares, 8840 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] [PAID] 5.00000000 BTC to 50`000 shares, 10000 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 16.58282696 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1442 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 220 @ 0.00300226 = 0.6605 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 57 @ 0.0123647 = 0.7048 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: ben_vulpes two shit companies colliding?
ThickAsThieves: sometimes i feel like things happen when i'm not around
pete_dushenski: btw the #freenode staff are telling me that pete_dushenski is cloaked but i'm not seeing it, can anyone else?
mike_c: ;;ident pete_dushenski
gribble: Nick 'pete_dushenski', with hostmask 'pete_dushenski!~pete_dush@unaffiliated/pete-dushenski/x-8158685', is identified as user 'pete_dushenski', with GPG key id 165749929F9A6BDD, key fingerprint E6625CC14638C4CA404694E9165749929F9A6BDD, and bitcoin address None
mike_c: welcome to the retarded cloack/x-23423423 club.
mike_c: not sure why we're not cool enough to not have random numbers at the end of our cloaks.
pete_dushenski: mike_c: it's not that cool… i had to write it on my chest to get it
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell pankkake please to update blogs to pete_dushenski
assbot: Bassetts Ice Cream - America's Oldest Ice Cream Company - Philadelphia, PA - List Flavors in Order of Popularity
assbot: Y Combinator: The American Idol of Venture Capital | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
pete_dushenski: though much like trilema, it took me about a year to wrap my noodle around it
assbot: Log In - The New York Times
princessnell: ha, small world. i was a super fangirl in college, couldn't miss an episode.
princessnell: now i am in the econtalk world all the time so i don't tune in as much.
pete_dushenski: there are still some useful conversations there, most episodes are worth an hour of my time
assbot: Transport minister approves construction of maglev train line -
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 378 @ 0.00269729 = 1.0196 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Mt. Gox, Ripple Founder Unveils Stellar, a New Digital Currency Project - MoneyBeat - WSJ
punkman: pete_dushenski: YC used to only give $10-15k, $120k happened recently, so they've probably spent much less than $86 mn
pete_dushenski: well maybe their expenses are higher than $1 mn / year
punkman: there was also another VC that started giving around $100k to any YC accepted company
kuzetsa: After March 2015 (equinox) I'll be turning off my 65nm BFL space heater
assbot: Start Fund: Yuri Milner, SV Angel Offer EVERY New Y Combinator Startup $150k | TechCrunch
kuzetsa: it's finally at the point where break-even (for my low electricity costs) is achieved for the mining revenue VS electricity cost O_O
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 346 @ 0.00269904 = 0.9339 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: punkman: the argument can be made that yc's $10k in 2005 fiat is worth about $120k in 2014 fiat
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1073 @ 0.00269998 = 2.8971 BTC [+] {5}
punkman: yeah, they also were actually paying attention then
assbot: Y Combinator may be removing VCs from its list of backers | VentureBeat | Entrepreneur | by Christina Farr
punkman: "startups enrolled in the program may soon receive funding from an entirely new source: Traditional limited partners. These LPs tend to be family offices, pension funds, and universities."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11391 @ 0.00079831 = 9.0935 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: Pointing the finger at Republicans for congressional inaction, President Barack Obama chided lawmakers with "Stop being mad all the time. Stop just hating all the time. Come on."
pete_dushenski: ThickAsThieves: and of course, stripe, another yc turd, is behind it
ThickAsThieves: i like that Jed is like, fuck you?, no fuck YOU! ... at least
assbot: Grant Program | The Bitcoin Foundation
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19838 @ 0.00079901 = 15.8508 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Arrested Drunk Guy Sings Queens Bohemian Rhapsody-The Funniest Video Ever! - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.2665 = 1.599 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.25050001 = 1.002 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: "Stellar was developed by the Stellar Development Foundation, a non-profit created by Stripe CEO Patrick Collison and Ripple co-founder Jed McCaleb plus $3 million in initial funding from Stripe."
punkman: why do people keep giving Jed money?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.24544292 = 1.7181 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.24 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 336 @ 0.00284999 = 0.9576 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> you put moosecocks in my mouth << he's canadian, it's what they do.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> your brand is so dynamic <<< ahahahh good one.
mircea_popescu: yc used to be all about "give us a chunk of equity for free."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 210 @ 0.00284999 = 0.5985 BTC [+]
punkman: "The Foundation received a loan of $3,000,000 from Stripe which was subsequently repaid with 2% of the stellars. "
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 219 @ 0.00269999 = 0.5913 BTC [+] {3}
punkman: so they value stellars at $0.0015 each
punkman: 5k free stellars if I signup with facebook, equals $7.5. facebook account costs $0.05
mircea_popescu: they have such a no idea wtf they're doing i can't even be bothered to try and short the things
punkman: 20 billion stellars to be given to btc holders, calculated by the percentage of total btc you hold on some future date
punkman: this looks like it will die much faster than Ripple
mircea_popescu: so they are allowing people to dilute the stripe investment wih facebook accounts and mere btc holdings ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00083538 = 4.0098 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: this looks like investors in stripe will be able to sue collision for simple fraud.
punkman: 100 billion total, 1% inflation a year
mircea_popescu: "you gave away 3mn of our money for the equivalent of of 600k facebook accounts ? FU."
punkman: this scam is getting old already
punkman: but I do want to see another dozen iterations for some reason
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 514 @ 0.00290995 = 1.4957 BTC [+]
assbot: Game 21 - Death 6506 Life 3494 Year 187 - War of Life
mike_c: punkman: right now, 35% of pot goes to life, and nobody bought any shares
punkman: wouldn't it look better if you seeded each side with 1 atc or so
mike_c: perhaps. on the other hand, you just learned something? btc games are seeded with bets.
punkman: yeah I was thinking 35% of 1000, forgot to add the bets
punkman: maybe I should make another calculator
assbot: Amazon.com: Clever Coffee Dripper (L): Single Serve Brewing Machines: Kitchen & Dining
mike_c: he's more prolific than you!
mircea_popescu: glasses, hat, weird mouth posture, horrible pic. but anwyay.
artifexd: He said something about his citibank styled btc shirt the other day.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10911 @ 0.00083724 = 9.1351 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 989 @ 0.00084275 = 0.8335 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1421 @ 0.00083538 = 1.1871 BTC [-]
mike_c: ;;later tell jurov re: the games tend to go in one direction. current game was looking like it was about to tip heavy death and did a 180.
http://bit.ly/1pJopUe assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1285 @ 0.00083538 = 1.0735 BTC [-]
mike_c: wasn't bolivia the one that banned bitcoin?
Duffer1: how would they go about trying to do that?
mircea_popescu: "offense in Gaza which already killed more than 1,300 dead"
mircea_popescu: hm, anyone ever compiled the us civilian death toll yet ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00083535 = 11.2355 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: so like half a mil in iraq, afew mil in afghanistan/pakistan/whatever ? mkay. loooking forward to bolivia declaring teh us a terrorist state once a day till 2016.
The20YearIRCloud: I want to know how many were militants, and how many were civilians held in known military installations
mircea_popescu: there's at least that one case where the israelis bombed a "school" that held a bunch of missiles.
The20YearIRCloud: and there recently a hospital bombed where militants were instagramming it full of explosives
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 413 @ 0.00375188 = 1.5495 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1392 @ 0.00083752 = 1.1658 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4306 @ 0.00083299 = 3.5869 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9814 @ 0.00083171 = 8.1624 BTC [-] {2}
novusordo: MP: not sure if you saw my message from half an hour or so ago, my shitty connection died
assbot: Blockchain’s offers loans and savings account to its users
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.29973 = 1.7984 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Blockchain Savings and Loans
rithm: hard to believe that
rithm: why the fuck is there an l in there
rithm: so it's two domain spoofs
rithm: a fake article about something that's crazy to another fake site
novusordo: mircea_popescu: was just curious about the "new blood" rating you left on WoT for me, haven't checked my ratings for quite a while and just noticed.
FabianB: omg, lol, sorry for posting that
rithm: i was digging into it already
mircea_popescu: shit FabianB so i cant has 10 btc loan and savings acct nao ?!
mircea_popescu: i am never trusting another internet for as long as i lyf.
FabianB: blockchain.info is already always advertising for btcjam, i guess almost as good
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00080628 = 1.2497 BTC [-]
novusordo: in order to get voice, assbot must have some level of trust to the user
novusordo: thought the only requirement was being authed
assbot: #bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 205 Ask: 248 Last Price: 205 24h-Vol: 7k High: 206 Low: 205 VWAP: 205
empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE S.WOL
fluffypony: I see Jackson Palmer abandoned Dogecoin to work on Stellar
Duffer1: i haven't kept up with the altcoin scene wtfs a stellar?
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 people that failed doge and ripple joined forces to make a new scamcoin.
pete_dushenski: sorta like bernanke and maddoff getting together to make a new hedge fund
assbot: XRP -> STR 4173cd2 stellar/stellard GitHub
rithm: because ripple is interplanetary
rithm: everyone knows that
rithm: chainless, non bound by latency, stellar scaling
rithm: awesome search/replace though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 785 @ 0.00270999 = 2.1273 BTC [+] {6}
mircea_popescu: this is the fucking result of having created a reservaton of half a billion cud chewers that would rather dream than do.
rithm: oh it's actuall mccaleb's fork of ripple
rithm: and it's named stellard. guys i'm telling you the idea of ripple WAS interplanetary transactions
rithm: i know i sound crazy but i'm not
rithm: none of this chained shit work earth <--> mars
rithm: too much latency, you need a new digital fiat
assbot: Game 20 - Death 4802 Life 5198 Year 860 - War of Life
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 19 @ 0.02701639 = 0.5133 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 216 @ 0.00272 = 0.5875 BTC [+]
assbot: Game 20 - Death 4916 Life 5084 Year 865 - War of Life
assbot: Homeopaths Without Borders - RationalWiki
assbot: coltan +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 645 @ 0.00272999 = 1.7608 BTC [+] {2}
coltan: is anybody of you investing in maidsafe?
assbot: The Brokenness of MaidSafe | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
coltan: I read that already the guys doesn't seem to be into bitcoin 2.0 that much
coltan: you can criticize but they've got a working beta so they are delivering something
BingoBoingo: Well, but what is it they are delivering. What is Maidsafe's function?
BingoBoingo: Is it a function that can generate the sort of demand that would offset existing investments with revenue?
coltan: if you think so but they took the internet and added some privacy and security to it seems nice to me
BigBitz: IF you're a fanboi I feel bad for you son, you got 99 problems but picking bad coins ain't one.
BingoBoingo: coltan: But what parts of the internet and how strong is the actual privacy and security compared to existing alternatives
BigBitz: What do you mean true? You just commented that 'they took the internet and added some privacy and security to it seems nice to me' .....
BingoBoingo: coltan: You have to consider that Maidsafe's actual competitor isn't Dropbox, but real solutions that... already work very well
assbot: XRP -> STR 4173cd2 stellar/stellard GitHub
coltan: So I guess this is also the place to get some hate about ethereum?
coltan: i've seen your offer :P
mircea_popescu: <coltan> I read that already the guys doesn't seem to be into bitcoin 2.0 that much << nor into web 2.0, for that matter.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'sed' artists, Amazing! << ki8nda reminds me of any kid's first hacking, replacing strings in binaries.
mircea_popescu: then one day discovers cheksums that are FUCKING WRONG
BigBitz: Hah. It fucking does as well.
ThickAsThieves: <+FabianB> omg, lol, sorry for posting that /// pay the assbot!
mircea_popescu: Hello, My name is Steve and I am a representative of Website72hrs.com. Our company has been in the business of web development for over a decade and we believe that our services are unparalleled which is why we have remained at the forefront of the industry. Website72hrs.com specializes in designing professional looking websites at a very cost-effective price tag of $150. Apart from Static web design, other services th
mircea_popescu: at we offer include Dynamic Websites, e-commerce solutions, and Search Engine Optimization.
ThickAsThieves: <+coltan> I read that already the guys doesn't seem to be into bitcoin 2.0 that much /\\/ o dear...
assbot: There Is No "Bitcoin 2.0" | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
mircea_popescu: i guess we're just not poor enough to care about "2.0"
mircea_popescu: buy em for so's bday. "honey, i got you an ecological hermine. it's a tshirt"
mircea_popescu: since we're on the topic, is cunt asshole 2.0 or vice versa ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3704 @ 0.00082348 = 3.0502 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if only anything'd been designed lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 970 @ 0.00272484 = 2.6431 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8111 @ 0.00082241 = 6.6706 BTC [-]
assbot: Sabotage at Satoshi Forest (@SeansOutpost) : Bitcoin
cazalla: probably did it himself to keep donations coming in
cazalla: hey reddit, the water bill is $700 this month but you managed to raised $7000, pat on back reward is warranted
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00271 = 1.084 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: "I was a bitcoin skeptic, but Stellar might just get me excited about cryptocurrency." -Twitter broad
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1121.08 B (86%) on Yes, 186.28 B (14%) on No | closing in 6 months 2 weeks | weight: 59`033 (100`000 to 1)
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 583.08, Best ask: 585.12, Bid-ask spread: 2.04000, Last trade: 583.08, 24 hour volume: 9498.92583311, 24 hour low: 555.9, 24 hour high: 590.0, 24 hour vwap: 574.887660693
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 390 @ 0.0027 = 1.053 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: my philosophy is not that it should be hard, but merely that if anyone complains, of anything, it should be made worse for them. << be grateful.
pete_dushenski: FoOdies5: but seriously tho, seenig what kids these days grow up on, we're pretty much fucked << has said everyone since forever. not that i'm removed from this
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: decimation intellectuals SHOULD run everything. the only problem is that the courtiers of the french republic are not intellectuals. << indeed. contemporary courtiers are but lengthily-educated jesters
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Seriously where did Contravex come from that it is so much better than MooseCocks