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mircea_popescu: then http://trilema.com/category/fmpif/
assbot: F.MPIF pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
benkay: !up RagnarsBitch
jurov: BCB all managers got 10% off the profit
jurov: except me :)
mircea_popescu: http://bdoubliees.com/vaillantpif/couvertures/v701.jpg
jurov: mircea_popescu: that's the gal with your pants?
BCB: jurov, I see that. I probably couldn't do it for less then 20%
mircea_popescu: mkay.
mircea_popescu: jurov lol no, that's ragnar. bitch not depicted.
mircea_popescu: http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=d945cb9cce20ac7143c2de8d88b187f62db99bdc
assbot: kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
mircea_popescu: in which alan cox fucks up the pty. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the indignity. poor guy.
mircea_popescu: after all the 2.4-ac stuff
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/globalwarming2.html
assbot: A Complete List Of Things Supposedly Caused By Global Warming
BCB: mircea_popescu, not counter offer
BCB: *no
mircea_popescu: nope.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00099532 = 4.4292 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03139999 = 0.314 BTC [+]
BCB: Romainians...
mircea_popescu: GEORGE: Well, don't they make a counter offer? How can they just cancel the whole deal like that? What kind of a maniac is this guy? I mean he just, he says no, and that's it?
mircea_popescu: SUSAN: Yeah, that's the way Russell is. He doesn't like to play games.
mircea_popescu: you're behind on your seinfeld.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.041 = 0.41 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31581 @ 0.00099798 = 31.5172 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68350 @ 0.0009953 = 68.0288 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00099798 = 4.7903 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: this battle for 1 is something else to watch
jurov: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/maged-permabanned-mpoe-pr-because-she-swore-shock.292615/page-5#post-6306146 someone wanted phinny here in chan?
assbot: Maged permabanned MPOE-PR because she swore shock | Page 5 | Bitcointa.lk
jurov: davout ^
mircea_popescu: jurov yes. me.
mircea_popescu: i like the guy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7753 @ 0.00100305 = 7.7766 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34627 @ 0.00100355 = 34.7499 BTC [+] {2}
artifexd: <kakobrekla> artifexd you might take out 'New' out of the strings, since the thing is never 'old' <- Excellent idea. I shall implement.
artifexd: <mircea_popescu> mind adding it in here with a special rule to only dump bets > 1btc ? << No problem.
artifexd: kakobrekla: Do I need to anything special to get artibot voiced in here? Is being a bot enough? I can (and will eventually) code it to ident with gribble and !up with assbot if necessary but if you have a list of preapproved bots, that would be easier.
kakobrekla: yes i make chanserv voice the bots, they need to be registered with nickserv
artifexd: Already done.
artifexd: It is ~artibot@unaffiliated/artifexd/bot/artibot
kakobrekla: thats it?
artibot: I am the human embodiment of []bot. I am not the real []bot.
artibot: But the nickserv account is the same.
decimation: If we are maintaining assbot; can we make it so users can !down themselves privately? Or is it intended to just ;;gpg unauth with gribble?
kakobrekla: yeah well chanserv cant distinguish between human embodiment and the real bot
kakobrekla: so either you change that or make it up itself
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00100513 = 1.9097 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: why do you want to down yourself?
artibot: Is the delay normal? It took about 40 seconds to be voiced.
decimation: I guess what I really want is to securely tear down my session
kakobrekla: depends on gribble
decimation: seems like !down to assbot and ;;gpg unauth to gribble should be the trick?
kakobrekla: decimation can you do /hop ?
decimation: Not on this client apparently
kakobrekla: if this is the only chan you are in with gribble, parting and joining will deauth you of gribble and you will lose your voice
artibot: Ok. I'm still "on the clock" so I won't get the bot in here now but I should be able to get it done before I go to bed.
kakobrekla: i thought you bots run 24/7
BCB: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101674032
assbot: Michael Novogratz touts bitcoin, M&A and tech
artifexd: It does. But there is coding that needs to be done.
kakobrekla: <Ken`> www.coinprism.com
kakobrekla: yay
kakobrekla: hipsters
decimation: Okay. I don't know the details of IRC, apparently gribble can tell the difference between someone leaving the channel and a net-split?
kakobrekla: prolly not
decimation: Ideally each chat message would be individually gpg signed
kakobrekla: nah
kakobrekla: just do
kakobrekla: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
kakobrekla: Hash: SHA1
kakobrekla: when you join
decimation: hehe
kakobrekla: and ------BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- ARGLE BARGLE
kakobrekla: when you leave.
decimation: IRC is kind of a creaky old protocol. it works, but it's like hitching a ride on a Cuban 1950's Ford truck
kakobrekla: name one chat protocol that surpasses it
decimation: Yeah I can't
kakobrekla: mhm
decimation: I'm thinking of something like bittorrent
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: thats chatroulette
dignork: decimation: there is a tox chat, torrent like, but nowhere close to irc so far
decimation: well, by "nowhere close" do we mean in software maturity or in widespread adoption?
dignork: decimation: unfortunately both
dignork: I mean there is a usable console client for one to one chat, and support for group chat, but still.
decimation: it's sad that there's not mechanism for multicast on the general internet
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [+]
decimation: One could use the bitcoin protocol to chat if they are willing to spend the coin
decimation: ascii has pointed this out several times
dignork: decimation: if you want to keep all your messages till bitcoin-dev finnaly figures a way to implement purging, yes.
dignork: thinking of it, twitter 2.0, your message is limited to 40 bytes of OP_RETURN, and you waste bitcoins, delicious!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 118 @ 0.00709991 = 0.8378 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10297 @ 0.00100518 = 10.3503 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5770 @ 0.00100104 = 5.776 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47050 @ 0.00099364 = 46.7508 BTC [-] {5}
benkay: regarding coinprism, i wonder if the same pattern of webwallet heists is going to happen with the cc walletsregarding coinprism
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 301 @ 0.00422005 = 1.2702 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: ;;gettrust assbot Mats_cd03
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Mats_cd03: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Mats_cd03 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Mats_cd03 | Rated since: Tue May 13 15:07:43 2014
benkay: aight Mats_cd03
benkay: time for some tech-nose
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00099996 = 14.1994 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.0721002 = 1.8025 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07452082 = 0.2236 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13645 @ 0.00099801 = 13.6178 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: http://www.followthecoin.com/dogepdx-portlands-biggest-dogecoin-party/ ☟︎
assbot: DogePDX! It's a Dogecoin Party in Portland! -
benkay: https://angel.co/wow-such-business-inc
assbot: Wow Such Business, Inc. | AngelList
benkay: can't decide if i need to go to harsh the vibe or stay in and work on actual things
benkay: leaning towards the latter
assbot: [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 471 @ 0.00021725 = 0.1023 BTC [+]
moiety: morning
moiety: lol benkay, i kinda want to know if they talk that way in person
moiety: kakobrekla: re wiki: i took it off because i wasn't sure how useful it was. i still have it though
benkay: moiety: it's worse than that - everyone talks like that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.0009973 = 5.0364 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10167 @ 0.00100109 = 10.1781 BTC [+] {2}
moiety: benkay: i think you should go wearing this: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fCUgM-FAJdA/UtL85lHtl7I/AAAAAAAAOh8/kl8EAe0RDDk/s380/Doug%2BRatner%2B-%2BId%2BRather%2BBe%2BWith%2BMy%2BCat%2BNew%2BShirt%2B-%2B1.jpg
benkay: "i'd rather be with my pussy"
moiety: that would work too
moiety: probably make folk jealous though
benkay: not really my problem.
benkay: maybe i should drape lady v over my arm and go troll the dogelings.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00100018 = 3.8007 BTC [-]
moiety: do it
moiety: though that involves dragging her through the evening also
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00012252 = 0.3676 BTC [-] {11}
benkay: could be enjoyable.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30943 @ 0.00099943 = 30.9254 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.041 = 0.41 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: moiety i dont see how it was harming anyone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16336 @ 0.00100067 = 16.3469 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.02448339 = 0.3428 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3955 @ 0.00100078 = 3.9581 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.041 = 0.41 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 40 @ 0.041 = 1.64 BTC [-]
moiety: kakobrekla: tweaked and returned. If there's anything hideously wrong, please let me know
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2895 @ 0.00012213 = 0.3536 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5996 @ 0.00012002 = 0.7196 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07250006 = 0.58 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9655 @ 0.00100067 = 9.6615 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13486 @ 0.0010008 = 13.4968 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10009 @ 0.00100067 = 10.0157 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9895 @ 0.0010015 = 9.9098 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00100235 = 17.4409 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3382 @ 0.00100287 = 3.3917 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 3150 @ 0.00013 = 0.4095 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00100287 = 6.1175 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10890 @ 0.00099734 = 10.861 BTC [-] {5}
Naphex: morning
fluffypony: Naphex :)
Naphex: what's going on
fluffypony: nothing much
fluffypony: nearly breakfast time
fluffypony: well more like brunch at this stage
Naphex: Thu May 15 10:47:45 EEST 2014
Naphex: what time is it in sa?
fluffypony: 9:47am
Naphex: you're an early man too eh?:P
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: been up for a couple of hours, but the wife has gotten into this fancy-breakfast-making habit
fluffypony: so we normally only eat at between 9 and 11, lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 780 @ 0.00099444 = 0.7757 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4630 @ 0.00099444 = 4.6043 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://bitstrips.com/
assbot: Bitstrips - Comics starring YOU and your Friends
mircea_popescu: is this the first case of a bit* site that's pre-bitcoin ?
fluffypony: I'm sure there are others
fluffypony: the bitpay domain was registered in 2004, for eg.
mircea_popescu: ya but it's a bitsite
mircea_popescu: i don't just mean the reg date
fluffypony: bitgames.com = 2002
fluffypony: oic
mircea_popescu: unrelated, https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/466853837576609792
assbot: http://t.co/wLzTSvt8xd Next step in marriage progress : preteens and horses. Because why should species matter when souls are in love!
fluffypony: lol
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/niubi/status/466834826419388416
assbot: Deputy head of coal dept of national energy administration detained, had over 100m rmb cash at home http://t.co/raWOJ1Sraz
mircea_popescu: talk about inflation.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.041 = 0.41 BTC [-]
Naphex: ebay ceo bullish on bitcoin on paypal
Naphex: god help us ;/
mircea_popescu: what's "on bitcoin on paypal" mean.
bounce: at a guess, something along the lines of "bitcoin with chargebacks"
Naphex: "We think Bitcoin will play a very important role in the future. Exactly how that plays out, and how we can best take advantage of it and enable it with PayPal, that's something we're actively considering. It's on our radar screen."
mircea_popescu: so reddit, made out of people who have no idea how to read pr statements, got all excited ?
mircea_popescu: that thing says exactly nothing at all. whence bullish ?
Naphex: well he's been soundbiting it on bloomberg as well
Naphex: a couple of months ago
Naphex: about how pp and bitcoin would and can go well
mircea_popescu: he has to.
mircea_popescu: the alternative is, "bitcoin will kill us in a matter of years. please keep buying our stock"
mircea_popescu: ebay is rimm cca 2005. who wants to tell the people with 401k's that mp will make a killing with puts on their savings ?
mircea_popescu: ARGLE BARGLE ahahaha
Naphex: heh, well they could just integrate bitcoin;p
Naphex: but just the fact that they're big makes them slow in adding something, so it might drag
mircea_popescu: decimation: IRC is kind of a creaky old protocol. it works, but it's like hitching a ride on a Cuban 1950's Ford truck <<< there are two kinds of protocols : the "creaky old" stuff which is good and the new shitty stuff which is bad.
mircea_popescu: same exact thing can besaid of tcp/ip, or anything else that works.
mircea_popescu: none of the "better" shit is worth two shits.
Naphex: IRC is a pretty good protocol
Naphex: old doesn't factor in
mircea_popescu: Naphex they can't integrate bitcoin, because i will never id to use it.
Naphex: well they don't have to, they can have a bitcoin wallet
Naphex: and just ID to exchange to USD
Naphex: or fiat
Naphex: and you can spend bitcoin on pp shops as USD, without ID
Naphex: there
mircea_popescu: decimation: it's sad that there's not mechanism for multicast on the general internet <<< god help us. lomic ?!
mircea_popescu: Naphex so then they just made a bitcoin to usd gateway
mircea_popescu: how is this including bitcoin ?
bounce: there's plenty that IRC could be doing better. but the basic stuff works pretty well.
mircea_popescu: that compound is self contradictory.
Naphex: sometimes it is more then enough to do 1 thing well, istead of 100 things mediocrely
mircea_popescu: where sometimes is all the times.
punkman: bounce, like what?
bounce: say, a per-channel tag expressing a preferred charset
mircea_popescu: jesus christ
punkman: utf8 don't work for you?
Naphex: utf8 and its up for the clients to interpret is fine
punkman: πφφφ
Naphex: since they only interpret command params
mircea_popescu: if i had to pick a bad example... wtf kludge is that
bounce: nope. and it's a flight-forward kind of thing. "if only everyone used this one standard system" -- but there isn't just one standard
mircea_popescu: why should irc be charset aware
Apocalyptic: ^
bounce: well, it's never been non-charset aware, there just was only one charset
mircea_popescu: again, contradictory.
bounce: well, it's what's in the rfc. "we assume it's ascii with some swedish specialness"
mircea_popescu: that rfc is confused lol
mircea_popescu: anyway, gtg for nao
bounce: so people just use whatever charset they like, and a bunch of clients now standard guess whether the characters they're looking at is latin-1 or utf-8 and switch tack based on the guesses
Naphex: they should just default to utf8
Naphex: and be done with it
Naphex: they'll change charset when they see artifacts all day
Naphex: or have the irc client use utf8 decoding as default
bounce: again, flight-forward kind of thing. and it completely disregards the (considerable) costs of utf-8
Naphex: what are the utf-8 costs that are so considerable?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 82 @ 0.0720659 = 5.9094 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.041 = 0.205 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.072 = 0.144 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16415 @ 0.00100287 = 16.4621 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.434005 = 0.868 BTC [-] {2}
fluffypony: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa-upgrade-factory-show-cisco-router-getting-implant/
assbot: Photos of an NSA upgrade factory show Cisco router getting implant | Ars Technica
fluffypony: Naphex: that's for you
Naphex: cisco routers prolly already had "beacons" in :)
Naphex: that workstation is just for upgrades
Naphex: :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.4307105 = 4.3071 BTC [-] {4}
punkman: "Also our cold wallet is going to be stored on a dedicated system that will come online less than once a day for brief random interval to carry out necessary transactions."
punkman: that's not cold at all
fluffypony: hah hah
fluffypony: lukewarm wallet
Apocalyptic: that's semi-hot
punkman: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/virtex-a-new-online-crypto-currency-trading-platform.281396/
assbot: Virtex! A new online crypto currency trading platform | Bitcointa.lk
Apocalyptic: i'm already facepalming
punkman: "Good news. Literally! We have been featured in several online news magazines."
punkman: "CEO Paulius Meskauskas, CMO Tomas Andzelis, CRO Mantas Gustys and a team of over 20 other people"
Apocalyptic: punkman, your former line reminded me of neobee
punkman: why do all these 7" low resolution monitors cost as much as a 20" HD one?
Naphex: http://www.theonion.com/video/social-media-rock-star-makes-28000-per-year,32302/
assbot: Social Media Rock Star Makes $28,000 Per Year | Video | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 7 @ 0.041 = 0.287 BTC [-]
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: is the header picture supposed to be a phoenix rising from the ashes?
Apocalyptic: fluffypony, header picture of ?
fluffypony: virtuals
fluffypony: virtex
fluffypony: ffs
Apocalyptic: I have no clue
fluffypony: http://www.virtex.com/img/head_bg.jpg
fluffypony: ka-kawww
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.0425 = 0.34 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 89 @ 0.072 = 6.408 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: we got embassies now, http://bitcoinembassy.ca/ http://bitcoinet.pl/2014/05/10/bitcoin-embassy/
assbot: Welcome
assbot: Europe’s First Bitcoin Embassy To Open in Poland | Bitcoinet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00099757 = 3.0426 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.430001 = 2.58 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.429 = 0.858 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 40 @ 0.0067001 = 0.268 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 63 @ 0.00646729 = 0.4074 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43401 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 836 @ 0.041 = 34.276 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43401 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 19 @ 0.02448339 = 0.4652 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.02449178 = 0.2449 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43989998 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00100287 = 5.1146 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.041 = 0.41 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 7418 @ 0.0000666 = 0.494 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2532 @ 0.00006561 = 0.1661 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00100287 = 1.2034 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11015 @ 0.0009996 = 11.0106 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.42134819 = 2.1067 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.02364228 = 0.2364 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 18 @ 0.02364223 = 0.4256 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.0313997 = 0.6908 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.03139977 = 0.6908 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03139998 = 0.1256 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADgAmNzxek
assbot: MV We are all bitcoins - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.0718 = 1.077 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.03139999 = 0.1884 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4220001 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.0009948 = 17.0111 BTC [-] {3}
davout: ;;seen mircea_popescu
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 36 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> anyway, gtg for nao
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.041 = 0.205 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00400007 = 0.4 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14950 @ 0.00100287 = 14.9929 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.0009938 = 12.1244 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.41200008 = 2.06 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 21 @ 0.412 = 8.652 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41103005 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0237301 = 0.2373 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.41103001 = 0.8221 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41103002 BTC [+]
fluffypony: moiety: http://i.imgur.com/EFwpW5N.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.41103001 = 0.8221 BTC [-] {2}
fluffypony: baby fox > manul
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41103001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00099227 = 13.5941 BTC [-] {2}
moiety: fluffypony: you made the baby sad http://www.savemanul.org/images/full/1_sm.jpg
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: ok they're both cute
moiety: :D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 19 @ 0.041 = 0.779 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 258 @ 0.0008549 = 0.2206 BTC [+]
fluffypony: altcoins are really running out of ideas
fluffypony: BillionCoin - "First coin with integrated chatroom in wallet"
fluffypony: because when choosing a cryptocurrency, an integrated IRC client sets you apart from the herd
BingoBoingo: http://www.forbes.com/sites/melaniehaiken/2014/05/08/syphilis-making-a-big-comeback-among-men-warns-the-cdc/
assbot: Syphilis Made A Big Comeback In 2013, CDC Warns - Forbes
BingoBoingo: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMicm1308567#figure=f1
assbot: MMS: Error
mircea_popescu: mms error ?
BingoBoingo: Oh, it's just about the opposite of .bait
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.041 = 0.615 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0718 = 0.718 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol
BingoBoingo: Basically the New England Journal of Medicine is irrelevant because they insist on embeding images as adobe flash
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 17 @ 0.041 = 0.697 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03139999 = 0.314 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell danielpbarron My OpenBSD cd's arrived yesterday.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/hQa3WMO.jpg << what happened to "judy will have to stfu and IT a lot, maybe someone'll care to listen to her stupid shit" ?
mircea_popescu: this fucking "x will need to" replacement for "we would like for x to" is a riot.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 24 @ 0.041 = 0.984 BTC [-]
fluffypony: I don't get it - is it supposed to be a kid's book?
mircea_popescu: more like a white knight's book.
fluffypony: lol
mircea_popescu: punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-05-2014#673415 so nyah! ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
jurov: duh what a day.. thanks to coinroll bots we found out about Math.random backdoor in node.js
mircea_popescu: o.O
jurov: somehow it just isn't able to generate more than 80 million random IDs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41103001 BTC [-]
jurov: regardless of node restarts that should have changed the seed
mircea_popescu: hahaha
mircea_popescu: 80mn keyspace ? random generator ? le loll ?
jurov: and reaction of typical node programmer like wao? "oh i remember we had this problem sometime"
mircea_popescu: write this up, in mucho detail. i bet you all the shitty "paper wallet" js implementations rest on node.js
jurov: !up wao
wao: yeah, I found this dickie feature of node in past ^ :D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 9 @ 0.041 = 0.369 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well so document it.
davout: X.EUR rollover done, receipts available upon request
jurov: but it's inherited from chrome, no? chrome can have it too then?
wao: possible, it's v8, right
BingoBoingo: Fucking google.
wao: !
wao: we are all bugged!
BingoBoingo: Lemme guess this is also the android RNG problem
wao: hehe
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 288 @ 0.00311106 = 0.896 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo afaik that was never THAT narrow. 10^8, srsly ?
mircea_popescu: so basically any gpg key / wallet / anything ever generater on node.js could be cracked trivially, within hours.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 150 @ 0.041 = 6.15 BTC [-]
Naphex: hey just implement your own RNG, go for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mersenne_twister and /dev/urandom / random
assbot: Mersenne twister - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: the rainbows off a 80mn wide space fit on any hdd ffs.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, either space is still bigger than debian had circa 2006...
fluffypony: afaik most of those paper wallet things are straight JS and they do the crunching on the client device
mircea_popescu: Naphex afaik linux rand calls mt_rand anyway
wao: literally, mircea is right
mircea_popescu: fluffypony so ?
wao: in past, there was reason why people made modules for node.js like these http://www.enchantedage.com/node-mersenne
assbot: Node.js Mersenne Twister random number generator module | Everything you never wanted to know about Jon Watte
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: so no node in that case?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony hopefully. you know ?
fluffypony: yeah
wao: mircea_popescu: I think it was mentioned many times, like 2-3years ago
fluffypony throws the jew down the well
BingoBoingo: Doesn't Bitpay have some node.js bitcoin library or node or someshit?
wao: like guy at his github for module did, https://github.com/my8bird/nodejs-secure-random
assbot: my8bird/nodejs-secure-random GitHub
wao: "Javascripts Math.random is not very random." but is more like javascript problem I think
jurov: wao is there a bug report for it?
wao: but report for javascript? maybe in ecma6 is fixed, dunno. I didnt keep eye on it
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: Bitcore I think
jurov: oh that's in *specification*?
fluffypony: http://blog.bitpay.com/2014/02/14/introducing-bitcore.html
assbot: Introducing Bitcore | The BitPay Blog
Naphex: its pretty basic to just use a custom RNG then Math.random in js
wao: jurov: here is something like 'official' https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322529
assbot: 322529 – Upgrade Math.random() to a better algorithm, such as Mersenne Twister
Naphex: this is what it returns 0.4092895321082324
wao: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111027154059AAP5kz0
assbot: Javascript question! math.floor(math.random()) doesn't seem to be that random..?
fluffypony: yahoo answers...we're digging deep into the pile now
fluffypony: :-P
wao: :D
jurov: sooo ... looks like enough derpage was witten about it already
wao: jurov: I think I've seen something similiar at CR lol http://www.wikihow.com/Generate-Random-Numbers-in-JavaScript
assbot: How to Generate Random Numbers in JavaScript: 6 Steps
wao: :D
wao: last step, win
Apocalyptic: fluffypony, "we need to go deeper"
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: Geocities!
Apocalyptic: neocities nao
fluffypony: unless you're the FCC
wao: fluffypony: oh, geocities gone with dinosaurs, now it's called neocities :P
wao: ok, enough of javascript-trolling, do not use javascript, especially on serverside! )
fluffypony: you kids and your Neocities and node.js and frappucinos and boostrap
wao: :D
wao: that's how girls write code
Naphex: and nothing wrong in using /dev/urandom /dev/random
fluffypony: lol
wao: you know, all that rails girls classes for subversile girls
jurov: wao <3 railsgirls
wao: (submisive is too sexistic word..)
jurov: i can confirm
fluffypony: gawd, I didn't even know railsgirls was a thing
wao: there was even JS ladies
wao: but didnt catch up trend, yet.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.041 = 0.164 BTC [-]
jborkl: Javascript girls?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41103 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: davout so, you publishing the x.eur settlement anywhere ?
davout: nah, interested in the rationale that would be behind it, you said "it allows the pricing of derivatives, bitbet bets etc."
davout: referred to shelling points
mircea_popescu: well, yes. you're in a fine position to establish a signal settlement price.
davout: so if i understand correctly you think it could have some use a price signal
mircea_popescu: just publish it. can be last trade even
mircea_popescu: it definitely can
davout: it's very thinly traded tho, and i could manipulate it, no?
mircea_popescu: "i will pay joe 1.5 btc for this car on may 16th, provided x.eur settles under 0.03. otherwise, 1.2 btc"
mircea_popescu: well these go in tandem
davout: absolutely
moiety: my day so far: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-klR-u599oNQ/UnxctgPNn9I/AAAAAAAAC1M/R4LL59kj0O0/s1600/shutup.png
mircea_popescu: that's what a schelling point is. suppose you're abudcted by aliens, with a bunch of other people you never saw in your life. the aliens put four cards face up in front of each of you, the same cards, and say yo ucan go if you all pick the same card
mircea_popescu: they're 4c 5s 4d qh
mircea_popescu: it's pretty clear you're all getting out, right ?
davout: i'd pick the queen
mircea_popescu: so would everyone else. but why ?
mircea_popescu: just as much a card as any other.
mircea_popescu: schelling point. needs to have the property of direct obviousness and no other.
davout: it has a distinctive property
davout: that i can imagine others will see as well
mircea_popescu: so therefore, published settlement price.
mircea_popescu: plus people will be able to do soft futures on its basis
BingoBoingo: People who are hard to envy: http://www.epmonthly.com/www.epmonthly.com/departments/clinical-skills/ultrasound/time-is-testicle/
assbot: Time is Testicle
mircea_popescu: (joe borrows from moe x.eur, promises to repay either in x.eur or else in settlement value)
davout: which one should i take? last trade before settlement (which could be days behind) or last active bid before settlement?
mircea_popescu: up to you really. you're the manager.
davout: last midpoint before settlement mebbe
mircea_popescu: pick a good one and stick to it.
davout: i can see the use, i'll use the opportunity to publish a coupla stats too
mircea_popescu: cool.
mircea_popescu: and yes, it helps your blog get some nice sticky content, too.
mircea_popescu: it's a win win all arond rly.
davout: that'll make a nice first post, a nice second post too if i'm lazy
BingoBoingo: http://www.popehat.com/2014/05/13/department-of-health-and-human-services-threatens-blogger-over-satirical-posts/
assbot: Department of Health And Human Services Threatens Blogger Over Satirical Posts | Popehat
davout: bbl
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.03139999 = 0.1884 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.40401266 = 4.8482 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 222 @ 0.00399493 = 0.8869 BTC [-] {5}
BingoBoingo: http://drgrumpyinthehouse.blogspot.com/2014/05/meeting-of-minds.html
assbot: Doctor Grumpy in the House: Meeting of the minds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 87 @ 0.041 = 3.567 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 53 @ 0.041 = 2.173 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lmao
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Now you know who raises reddit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.02480844 = 0.1737 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lmao there's a belgium whale now, buying up all the Ts russia is dumping. hahaha
BingoBoingo: Where's Ahab when you need him.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41979957 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 24 @ 0.041 = 0.984 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 24 @ 0.041 = 0.984 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07468319 = 0.6721 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8769 @ 0.00011351 = 0.9954 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.041 = 0.492 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07386428 = 0.8125 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00099607 = 1.6933 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;seen bitcoinpete
gribble: bitcoinpete was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 19 hours, 52 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <bitcoinpete> bbl
fluffypony: mucho latero
bitcoinpete: ahoy mateys
bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: fixed your gravatar in the comments section
bitcoinpete: peterl: s.limbs must be a joke then!
thestringpuller: bitcoinpete: I have a story for you.
bitcoinpete: ok shoot
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00395629 = 0.3956 BTC [-] {2}
bitcoinpete: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/05/15/forget-cpi-inflation-is-measured-with-art/
assbot: Forget CPI. Inflation Is Measured With Art. | When Bitcoin Met Pete
pankkake: it's also a way to escape taxes, at least in France very much so
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.07183641 = 2.1551 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: pankkake: you guys have a wonderful history of appreciating art in all its dimensions
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.42848002 = 1.7139 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.042 = 0.126 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13427 @ 0.00099372 = 13.3427 BTC [-]
benkay: wsj is down
benkay: logs are short
benkay: what is a boy to read over coffee anyways?
thestringpuller: why don't you program something in lisp
cgcardona: good morning everyone o/
thestringpuller: ;;ident
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
mike_c: i'm still waiting for thestringpuller's story.
fluffypony: mike_c: you and me both
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.43 = 0.86 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11791 @ 0.00099221 = 11.6991 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: thestringpuller: lisp happens after coffee.
benkay: and what story are we waiting for?
mike_c: <+thestringpuller> bitcoinpete: I have a story for you.
benkay: ah
benkay: bitcoinpete: you have this 'substitution' nonsense up north as well?
bitcoinpete: like for teachers?
benkay: cpi
benkay: jurov, wao can y'all give me a link to something about the node.js and js.rand problems?
bitcoinpete: o ya
bitcoinpete: of course
bitcoinpete: i doubt there's a western country without it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.45469843 BTC to 8`643 shares, 28401 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] [PAID] 3.47474341 BTC to 151`537 shares, 2293 satoshi per share
benkay: bleugh.
benkay: wowee markets got hammered yesterdat
benkay: not mpoe tho :)
danielpbarron: what services are using node.js? i tried searching around but couldn't get definitive answers
danielpbarron: I assume bc.i and bitaddress use it
mike_c: i bet JD does.
danielpbarron: what's that? just-dice?
mike_c: yeah
mike_c: makes heavy use of websockets, which often go hand in hand with node.js
pankkake: you need pictures of the developers to know that. do they have thick rimmed glasses, fedoras, or ironic moustaches?
danielpbarron: is that relevant for services that aren't generating addresses?
benkay: yes.
BingoBoingo: Related, it takes merely 1 gram of raw botulin toxin to supply the amount needed for the world's pharmaceutical use in a year. http://www.allergan.com/assets/pdf/2011AnnualReport.pdf
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19773 @ 0.00099273 = 19.6293 BTC [+] {2}
danielpbarron: I'm waiting for the bitcoin-days destroyed chart to have a spike today
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00404899 = 0.4049 BTC [+]
jurov: benkay it's in the log, such as: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322529
assbot: 322529 – Upgrade Math.random() to a better algorithm, such as Mersenne Twister
moiety: we use node.js
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00404899 = 0.1215 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: bitcoinpete mike_c : It's a rehash of an old story, but it would be a neat article if the research is done right.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu already did it once on trilema
fluffypony: pankkake
thestringpuller: "Bitcoin Drama Timeline"
fluffypony: I think you're being out-trolled
fluffypony: "Sorry for you that GPG is hard. Probably you can find introduction guide to help you understand."
fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=551698.msg6740552#msg6740552
assbot: [Weekly Dividends] Symmetric Step Trading
pankkake: yeah…
bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: intriguing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.43340239 = 0.8668 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.43493332 = 1.3048 BTC [+] {3}
benkay: thanks jurov. i saw that link but hope springs eternal
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.135 BTC [-]
artifexd: kakobrekla: Changes/bug fixes were made to artibot. She is here. But assbot didn't voice her. Her nick is []bot
punkman: https://bitcoin-trader.biz/opportunities.php
assbot: Bitcoin Trader | Income Opportunities
kakobrekla: no info about who is supposed to run this
punkman: "HYIP monitors, promoters and related services: Don't waste your time! We are not getting acquainted with any HYIP related service. Related support requests will be deleted immediately."
punkman: lol
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcast-Confirms-Usage-Caps-Going-Nationwide-After-Trials-128963
assbot: Comcast Confirms Usage Caps Going Nationwide After Trials | DSLReports, ISP Information
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00300004 = 0.3 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07485045 = 0.7485 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0039882 = 0.3988 BTC [-] {3}
thestringpuller: bitcoinpete: so my idea would be to do what mircea_popescu did but additionally, compare it to the known losses of non scammor companies (i think most losses from non scamming companies have been covered somehow). Thus there is like a two-side criterion based on BingoBoingo's observation of a BTC company that incurs losses it can never cover as "scammors"
thestringpuller: it's less of a story, and more of a case study
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Well, loses without being a scam are probably possible if they are documented, but generally an obligation that can't be covered is a scam.
benkay: "can't be covered" in which timeframe?
BingoBoingo: If you Gox says you have X BTC and can't cover that it's a scam.
benkay: there are people in this channel in the proces of paying off their obligations.
BingoBoingo: benkay: Well, it depends on the construct.
thestringpuller: aren't those people labeled as scammors until those obligations are paid of per the contract?
thestringpuller: or moreover if they are currently in violation of a contract they are definitively scammors in that context
thestringpuller: albeit they may have good intent
benkay: sounds like everyone's real eager with the 'scammer' tag.
benkay: mistakes get made, and then get rectified. sometimes the rectification takes 3 years, sometimes it never happens.
benkay: that icky continuum of reality.
thestringpuller: fortunately there is no fairy godmother Bernanke
thestringpuller: to bail out the mistake makers here if they dig a hole too deep
danielpbarron: Bitcoin is not for the fait of heart
danielpbarron: faint*
kakobrekla: should be all good artifexd .
artifexd: ty
kakobrekla: no, ty.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 40 @ 0.0067001 = 0.268 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: no ty!
thestringpuller: NO U
thestringpuller: ;;google site:trilema.com bitcoin drama timeline
gribble: The Bitcoin Drama Timeline pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/>; Why S.MPOE is worth more than MtGox pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: <http://trilema.com/2012/why-smpoe-is-worth-more-than-mtgox/>; Amir Taaki has done, and continues to do, huge disservice ... - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2012/amir-taaki-has-done-and- (1 more message)
danielpbarron: has anyone here ever compiled ssss-0.5 on openbsd 5.5 ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.03139999 = 1.57 BTC [+]
fluffypony: I tend to agree with benkay
fluffypony: I think I'm overly liberal with the labelling sometimes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03139999 = 0.1256 BTC [+]
benkay: okay new topic
thestringpuller: new topic is why LISP is unecessary
thestringpuller: /trololol
benkay: pressed shitboard.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 366 @ 0.00099324 = 0.3635 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: "compare it to the known losses of non scammor companies" <<ya, not sure if there are any of these around
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41514221 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00099324 = 6.1581 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: ;;later tell thickasthieves have fun in amsterdam today!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
bitcoinpete: http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2014/05/15/russians-flee-u-s-treasury-debt-as-sanctions-hit/
assbot: Russians Flee U.S. Treasury Debt As Sanctions Hit - Real Time Economics - WSJ
bitcoinpete: Russia’s net Treasury security holdings dropped $25.8 billion in March to $100.4 billion, tumbling 20% from February’s $126.2 billion
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21307 @ 0.00099369 = 21.1726 BTC [+] {2}
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/NHendersonWSJ/status/466942995984445441
assbot: What's a Chinese firm to do when wages rise? Open a factory in Africa http://t.co/ZEL95cFTae
bitcoinpete: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27388104 << rbi doesn't even want free usd ☟︎
assbot: BBC News - The 10-year-old who offered money to India's central bank
fluffypony: hah hah
fluffypony: straight to Cape Town
jborkl: http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/bBGNBD/www.bcoinnews.com < scre you internets you're ma bitch
assbot: Website speed test
fluffypony: classic
bitcoinpete: jborkl: my blog got 83/100 :D
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: you're ahead of the curve
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41095544 BTC [-]
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: the funny thing is I did a cost analysis of the OpenRigs frames vs. China (at scale) and it ends up being cheaper to manufacture here, but they win on direct shipping costs
fluffypony: at the smaller scale we're currently at it's significantly more blurry
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.41060003 = 1.2318 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.003988 = 0.3988 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.0415 = 0.2075 BTC [+]
fluffypony: but either way it still looks like it's better to keep the manufacturing here from a qualitative and cost perspective
bitcoinpete: and in sa you know the language and the culture
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07484982 = 0.4491 BTC [-] {4}
bitcoinpete: far easier to do business
fluffypony: yep
fluffypony: I have a friend who ran a successful Kickstarter a while back
fluffypony: when manufacturing crunch time came
fluffypony: the samples they were receiving from China were shit
fluffypony: he moved to Shenzen for 5 months to get the manufacturing sorted
fluffypony: *Shenzhen
fluffypony: which was basically horrible for him
bitcoinpete: well, the air
bitcoinpete: what was the kickstarter?
fluffypony: I'd rather not say to protect the guilty - he mismanaged stuff badly after that and the whole thing spiralled into recklessness and infamy
mod6: .d
mod6: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 300889 | Current Difficulty: 8.8534163091278E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 302399 | Next Difficulty In: 1510 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 2 hours, 18 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9929982982.92 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.1599
thestringpuller: mod6: is like chetty now
thestringpuller: a ghost
bitcoinpete: mod6: gonna crush bastille day
thestringpuller: btw bitcoinpete what do you think of an update to the drama timeline? lolol
thestringpuller: total losses
thestringpuller: 25 million btc
mike_c: ;;later tell ThickAsThieves you still in Amsterdam? ping me sometime please.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jborkl: bitcoinpete , nice - I am trying to keep the data very small and as few requests as possible - under 200kb for a new visit and around 10 requests and a half second load time
bitcoinpete: mike_c: the foundation circus just started today, he's gotta be there
mike_c: ah
bitcoinpete: jborkl: nice
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.04191666 = 0.2515 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: well hopefully he had enough brownies to make it through.
bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: that could definitely ruffle some feathers :D
mod6: oh July 14th. hmm, yeah maybe!?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.40500383 BTC [-]
mod6: i was just thinking... 'remember when the diff was like 5mn'
kakobrekla: wtf this pingdom thing is scam
mod6: then it went down to like 1mn or something for a few weeks.
fluffypony: kakobrekla: which part, the downtime notification thing or the full page tester?
bitcoinpete: mod6: it'll come down to if we squeeze 4 or 5 more difficulty resets between now and then
kakobrekla: Your website is faster than 97% of all tested websites compared to 86% for bcoinnews.com , yet news get 99/100 and bitbet 83
mod6: those bets always seem to end up being a close one.
bitcoinpete: heh mpex got the same speed rating as my blog
kakobrekla: so who can beat bitbets 97% ?
mike_c: i love pingdom
bitcoinpete: i gotta jet. laterz
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07485 = 0.1497 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i bet you cant do it with a static html!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28723 @ 0.00099813 = 28.6693 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.40500396 = 1.215 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: meh a 404 beats homepage
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.40500053 = 0.81 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: kakobrekla: bitbet is static html?!?!?!?!?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.40500021 = 0.81 BTC [-] {2}
mike_c: if you don't customize per-user why not do static html.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.003988 = 0.1117 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.4038 = 1.6152 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4002 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: yeah did that on stats, on bb is not really a problem
fluffypony: kakobrekla: speed != where it can improve
fluffypony: that score is about whether you're doing things like putting static objects on a different, cookieless subdomain to improve parallel requests
fluffypony: or whether you've reduced the number of CSS/JS external requests per page
kakobrekla: but i dun need to do dat if i already own 97% of the net
kakobrekla: so fuck you
fluffypony: exactly
fluffypony: so don't try beat their score:)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03139999 = 0.157 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: i wont
kakobrekla: ill rather change the logo.
fluffypony: !up ThickAsThieves
ThickAsThieves: Hi folks
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: how is the 'Dam?
ThickAsThieves: Nice
ThickAsThieves: I broke my laptop
ThickAsThieves: Well, i broke debian
fluffypony: :/
ThickAsThieves: Chrome was freezing so i went to uninstall it
ThickAsThieves: And i think i unistalled the whole os ui
ThickAsThieves: Im a noob
ThickAsThieves: Just got back from the opening conference mingle session
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.40026666 = 1.2008 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: I made a couple vids for yall
ThickAsThieves: Bitcoin2014 Amsterdam walkthrough: http://youtu.be/iDQClrnOpFs
assbot: Bitcoin2014 Amsterdam walkthrough - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4002 = 0.8004 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: Bitcoin2014 SWAG: http://youtu.be/6DssroXiYmg
assbot: Bitcoin2014 SWAG - YouTube
thestringpuller: oh. ThickAsThieves do we get to see all the money they are wasting?
thestringpuller: All hail Bitcoin Foundation and use of funds on swag ~_~
ThickAsThieves: Well its nothing notable
ThickAsThieves: I doubt they paid for any of it
ThickAsThieves: All sponsor swag
ThickAsThieves: Free drinks though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.4001 = 1.2003 BTC [-]
fluffypony: free booze is good booze
mike_c: lol. cointerra's booth is a scam :)
ThickAsThieves: Hehe
ThickAsThieves: There is also a 3rd floor
jborkl: http://gtmetrix.com/reports/www.bcoinnews.com/Yfhq03oi got a 99 on yslow also
assbot: Latest Performance Report for: http://www.bcoinnews.com/ | GTmetrix
ThickAsThieves: Wherr all the drinking was
fluffypony: lol
ThickAsThieves: Mike_c did u need me for something?
fluffypony: Need money to start a Bitcoin or Crypto-Currency business?"
fluffypony: dat signage
jborkl: cointerra - heh they have been having fire sales - all miners must go with a inflatable tube guy waving his arms
ThickAsThieves: My blogging efforts may not be very 'live'
ThickAsThieves: The wifi sux there
fluffypony: jborkl: well the table looks empty
fluffypony: so maybe people are buying them
ThickAsThieves: And typing on a tablet is shit
fluffypony: don't worry ThickAsThieves, you're doing the lord's work
ThickAsThieves: I think some vendors were absent tonight cuz it wasnt the real start
fluffypony: hah - itBit looks like the suits
ThickAsThieves: Mostly meant to drink and be made to feel inferior,
jborkl: well, I offered to buy some from stock for a discounted price, but only if I could pick them up- since they are in "stock" 15 minutes away. no response
ThickAsThieves: They interrupted the drinking halfway thru,
ThickAsThieves: To announce all the vips need to get on their vip cruise
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: and BFL are there
ThickAsThieves: Yeah i saw josh
ThickAsThieves: Wasnt sure what to say atm
ThickAsThieves: Maybe ill bring up garr
kakobrekla: is he there?
ThickAsThieves: Yeah
kakobrekla: the balls.
ThickAsThieves: Wait
kakobrekla: on this dude.
fluffypony: for next year I'm buying you a camera with image stabilisation
ThickAsThieves: U meant garr?
kakobrekla: yea
ThickAsThieves: Josh is here
ThickAsThieves: Dunno what garr looks like
fluffypony: or a steadycam
ThickAsThieves: Fluffy i filmed on a whim
ThickAsThieves: Looking at it i went too fast and should have narrated
kakobrekla: ThickAsThieves you could bring up bitstamp trading fees scam
ThickAsThieves: And maybe interviewed
ThickAsThieves: Scuse me why are a scammer?
ThickAsThieves: Like that?
ThickAsThieves: Hehe
kakobrekla: that could work
ThickAsThieves: I didnt see any bitstampers yet
ThickAsThieves: I smoked a joint with some british finance dudes last night
ThickAsThieves: Not bitcoiners
ThickAsThieves: But they were fascinated to hear about it
ThickAsThieves: Today i met a spanish math guy that does finance
fluffypony: nice
ThickAsThieves: I told him to come here
ThickAsThieves: I shoulda put #bitcoin-assets on my name tag
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: ok next year I'm going too
fluffypony: and we're printing bitcoin-assets t-shirts
ThickAsThieves: It kinda sucks being alone
ThickAsThieves: I dont even know 1 person really
fluffypony: yeah, if I'd planned it in advance I would've gone with you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.42158435 = 2.1079 BTC [+] {4}
ThickAsThieves: I recognized the guy from that bitcoin shirt company
ThickAsThieves: The one that had a bitfunder ipo
ThickAsThieves: And helped funf satoshipoker
ThickAsThieves: Fund
rithm: i'll pay good bitcoin for a -assets tshirt
rithm: especially if it says "bitcoin-asshats" somehwere on it
fluffypony: speshul one just for you rithm
TomServo: !up ThickAsThieves
ThickAsThieves: I guess ima go paint the town
TomServo: Have fun, thanks for the infos
ThickAsThieves: Np
thestringpuller: LOL
thestringpuller: that would be a great game
thestringpuller: count the scams at the Bitcoin Foundation conference
thestringpuller: ISPY: Bitcoin Foundation Scam Edition
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.40100715 = 0.802 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19593 @ 0.00099546 = 19.504 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 23 @ 0.04195 = 0.9649 BTC [+] {2}
fluffypony: ;;later tell asciilifeform dat rfid: http://www.bishopfox.com/resources/tools/rfid-hacking/attack-tools/
assbot: Attack Tools | Bishop Fox
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fluffypony: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/HPQva7Pq1GQv.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.05850606 = 0.234 BTC [-]
benkay: what bugs me about ssl is the conflation of "this server is authorized to handle requests from this domain" with encrypting the connection between server and client.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 657 @ 0.00099234 = 0.652 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4013 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07496866 = 0.2249 BTC [+] {3}
mike_c: well you have to identify the server you are encryptingly communicating with, no?
benkay: i guess
fluffypony: "Welcome to Tistoni's BTC fund. This works by taking Bitcoins, converting them to fiat and investing them into low risk steady return investments which yield up to 10% net returns in a year. We invest into P2P crowdfunding projects on the internet using artificial intelligence technology and actively trade on a number of private markets. "
benkay: but how can you do that a priori without trusting someone idiotc?
fluffypony: it's got to be a joke
mike_c: benkay: cacert? trust a whole bunch of idiots?
fluffypony: "You can withdraw all your funds by sending less than 1 amount of Bitcoins to the same address. Please remember the Bitcoin address you use to deposit and withdraw funds as this is used to identify your account."
fluffypony: I can't
BingoBoingo: jborkl: Apparently I'm lagging http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/ejqKTo/http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com
assbot: Website speed test
mircea_popescu: motherfucker! who came up with the retarded idea of making shampoo bottle caps not straight
mircea_popescu: used to be one of my top ways to judge a girl : go to her bathroom, see if the shampoo is resting "upside down"
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: the French
mircea_popescu: if not, she's retarded.
benkay: mike_c: but chrome et al hate self-signed certs.
mircea_popescu: benkay and random numers.
mircea_popescu: !up toastee
mike_c: benkay: yes, but chrome is not a priori
mike_c: more a posteriori
mircea_popescu: a posterior, more like it.
benkay: there are two concerns is all i'm saying
benkay: "is this connection encrypted?"
benkay: "am i talking to the right person?"
mircea_popescu: 1 reduces to 2.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, THIS connection is encrypted.
mircea_popescu: just a lotta people happen to have the keys is all.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: I topped out at 97% as well.
benkay: i think i want a wot for server keys
mircea_popescu: Naphex was making sometring of that ilk.
benkay: a bunch of lists of dns records and the keys associated with each
benkay: i'm irritated that i gotta pay 85/year for wildcard ssl certs that normal browsers won't freak out about.
mircea_popescu: actually, namecoin was ALSO doing something kind-of similar, but not really.
benkay: was?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20693 @ 0.00099609 = 20.6121 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: well i dunno what it's doing nao.
mircea_popescu: Me : Bla bla bla diff bets bla bla bla evil socialists!
mircea_popescu: Redditor : Much simpler explanation : the proposition target was way off-market (100%). Nothing to be won by betting on the clear outcome.
mircea_popescu: Me : Only a noob could think this is an actual explanation. Most if not all diff propositions were upsets.
mircea_popescu: Redditor : Sorry to have burst your bubble.
mircea_popescu: HE has burst MY bubble. oh internets.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: Reddit has become the home of groupthink and retardation lately
fluffypony: even more so than usual
mircea_popescu: each new year.
fluffypony: dat eternal September
benkay: just look at the google results for [smelling burning rubber mysterious]
toastee: mircea_popescu Can you add me to auto-voice?
mircea_popescu: http://www.alternet.org/weird-science-siberian-psychologists-caning-patients-buttocks-new-addiction-treatment
assbot: Weird Science: Siberian Psychologists Caning Patients "On the Buttocks" in New Addiction Treatment | Alternet
mircea_popescu: probably, but why should i ?
fluffypony: ;;gettrust assbot toastee
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user toastee: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=toastee | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=toastee | Rated since: never
fluffypony: o well
toastee: i just wouldnt mind chatting in here
toastee: channel is +m
toastee: and you keep +v'ing me manually anyway lol
BingoBoingo: ;;ident toastee
gribble: Nick 'toastee', with hostmask 'toastee!toastee@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-vjvfdwflctakzdyr', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: i only up yuou because i don't recall your name and figure maybe you have something to actually say
BingoBoingo: toastee: Well, there are ways of getting auto voive
mircea_popescu: so far this isn't proceeding well on either of the two scores.
toastee: just interested in the chan so i idle
toastee: that's all
BingoBoingo: idling is useful
mircea_popescu: np.
toastee: if there's some kind of ident or auth i have to do just tell me how lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00099208 = 12.1034 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: http://dougdemuro.jalopnik.com/ohio-issues-bright-yellow-license-plates-to-shame-dui-o-1576928319/+sarah-hedgecock
assbot: Ohio Issues Bright Yellow License Plates To Shame DUI Offenders
benkay: ;;google bitcoin-assets wot voice
gribble: #bitcoin-assets new WoT and voice model - Cascadian Hacker: <http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html>; #bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/>; NEXT: 29-04-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2014>
benkay: toastee: ^^
BingoBoingo: ;;google site:trilema.com #bitcoin-assets +m
gribble: #bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/>; The elitism memory hole effect pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/the-elitism-memory-hole-effect/>; A virtual socioeconomic problem pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/a-virtual-socioeconomic-problem/>
toastee: gotcha
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnsrPF-CMAA74VL.jpg
mircea_popescu: so wasn't tat supposed to liveblog some lolfest or it hasn't started yet or what ?
mircea_popescu: did little miss boring get the best atm of the year award or whatever it was ?
mircea_popescu: o hai
mircea_popescu: !up Guest20412
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: he made 2 videos
fluffypony: not much to see, just swag and the booths
mircea_popescu: for the love of christ
fluffypony: he says the Internet connection there is shitty
fluffypony: so won't be as live as he'd hoped
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i only coupla days ago found out what swag ACTUALLY means.
mircea_popescu: i always thought it synonymous to bling.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony hey, shitty interwebs but at least they paid for the airport to display related ads, right ?
mircea_popescu: #rightdirection.
BingoBoingo: Well, did they pay the airport's asking price without negotiation a'la Neo?
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: buy...ALL of the ads!
benkay: "shit we all get"
mircea_popescu: lawl. greece introduced a 33% tax on all capital gains on greek bonds between 2012 and 2013.
mircea_popescu: retroactive
mircea_popescu: benkay yah, nao i know.
benkay: greek link, mircea_popescu ?
BingoBoingo: http://gawker.com/dan-bilzerians-lawyer-responds-to-the-porn-star-he-thre-1576855124
assbot: Dan Bilzerian's Lawyer Responds to the Porn Star He Threw off the Roof
mircea_popescu: benkay it's in a pwc report.
mircea_popescu: (ie, not directly linkable)
benkay: well shoot a brother a pdf then eh
mircea_popescu: nm, here it is
mircea_popescu: http://www.pwc.ch/news/en/12080/greece-capital-gains-tax-non-residents-gains-greek-bonds-immediate-action-required
assbot: Greece: capital gains tax for non-residents on gains from Greek bonds, immediate action required PwC | Schweiz
mircea_popescu: wtf is wrong with these people, if you're gonna put it on the web anyway, why dick around with emails.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.0735134 = 1.2497 BTC [-] {4}
benkay: sweet deal.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07331266 = 0.5865 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4110143 = 0.822 BTC [+]
benkay: "fuck you, international financiers. we didn't want your money anyways."
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: o, you made money supporting us in our darkest hour ? well fuck you.
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bnr_p_iCAAEWAYM.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41101441 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "We have used PGP/GPG for long years before Bitcoin paper was written."
mircea_popescu: helpfully omits to link gpg key. likely does not even know what that is or why it'd be relevant.
mircea_popescu: forum self crits for >9k again
mike_c: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 300905 | Current Difficulty: 8.8534163091278E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 302399 | Next Difficulty In: 1494 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 0 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9852124062.72 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.28048
mircea_popescu: it's not making 14bn is it.
mike_c: gribble's estimates seem off.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: that guy is classic, he's out-trolling the trolls
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/677/bitcoin-network-difficulty-14bn-on-bastille-day/
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day :: 30.09 B (73%) on Yes, 11.38 B (27%) on No | closing in 4 weeks 1 day| weight: 16`905 (100`000 to 1)
mircea_popescu: but there's just no way it makes 5.2bn gains in 2-3 periods.
mircea_popescu: actually it could be 5 i guess
mike_c: i think it'll be 4
mircea_popescu: it could be as low as 3 i guess.
mircea_popescu: %block
mircea_popescu: hm what was it again
mircea_popescu: %diff
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 455357.13 Est. Next Diff: 152925.19 in 978 blocks (#32256) Est. % Change: -66.42
mircea_popescu: there's obviously a nonzero chance that bitcoin has a -50% diff event during its lifetime. i wonder if it'll also be during our lifetime.
BingoBoingo: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5163957&cid=47012267
assbot: Don't Be a Server Hugger! (Video) - Slashdot
mike_c: 4 12% bumps make it
mike_c: 3 16.5% bumps, 5 9.6% bumps
mircea_popescu: mike_c prev bump was 10%. and this does get increasingly hard as time goes by, too
mike_c: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty says next bump estimated at 14%
assbot: Bitcoin Difficulty and Hashrate Chart - BitcoinWisdom
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete:
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: "compare it to the known losses of non scammor companies" <<ya, not sure if there are any of these around << you could count the 2012 mpex cdos i guess.
mircea_popescu: mike_c now we only need bitcoinagility, bitcoinstrength, bitcoinendurance and bitcoinintelligence
mircea_popescu: then we could make a party.
mike_c: hehe. need bitcoindexterity too
mike_c: ah, agility.
jborkl: Coinkite Taps Bitcoin Developer Peter Todd For Advisory Role <- is'nt that name kinda racist?
mircea_popescu: mike_c no because no rogue/thief class
mircea_popescu: jborkl todd ?!
jborkl: sorry I misread the name Coinkike
mircea_popescu: a lol
mircea_popescu: kointyke
mircea_popescu: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27388104 << bank of india won't take free usd.
assbot: BBC News - The 10-year-old who offered money to India's central bank
jborkl: working on code is like playing grandtheft auto, hard to get anything done cause you get distracted break something and then run over a cop
jborkl: accomplishing nothing
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: I'd rather not say to protect the guilty - he mismanaged stuff badly after that and the whole thing spiralled into recklessness and infamy << the company you keep.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: me and my dodgy friends!
fluffypony: tbh I haven't spoken to him in months, I should actually find out if he's still alive
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: Your website is faster than 97% of all tested websites compared to 86% for bcoinnews.com , yet news get 99/100 and bitbet 83 << because it's not scored by performance, it's scored by you doing what they want you to do.
mircea_popescu: like us academic achievement.
BingoBoingo: ^
mike_c: like all academic achivement.
mike_c: who gives you good grades for not doing what they want?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: Chrome was freezing so i went to uninstall it and i think i unistalled the whole os ui << MP on ubuntu fresh install. "Why the shit does this have internet ? Take it out". Ubuntu proceeds to mark everything as "to be uninstalled", all the way up to the kernel. Why ? BECAUSE FUCKTARDS MARK EVERYTHING AS A DEPENDENCY.
mircea_popescu: mike_c me, possibly the only entity out there.
mircea_popescu: here's an anecdote : back when i was in school tho, we did this "thesis paper" each trimester, which accounted for half the grade, in select subjects.
mircea_popescu: we were superadvanced math class, and so the teacher getting bored of all the constant "but may we use CBS to prove this ?" "no" "Why the fuck not!"
mircea_popescu: came up with, you may use any lemma you can, if asked after the paper, demonstrate at the blackboard. but if you can't, you get an F no matter what's in yoru thesis. hoping to shut us up.
mircea_popescu: so that term I used a "all obtuse angles are straight angles" lemma. blazed through the geometry section with it.
mike_c: and demonstrated that how?
mircea_popescu: it had a troll proof which now i forget.
mircea_popescu: but i did get full mark on the paper.
mircea_popescu: "for ingenuity"
mircea_popescu: (for people readng at home, cbs = cauchy-buniakowski-schwartz, a major stepping stone in liniar algebra/analysis)
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's really difficult to take very intelligent people through a set itinerary. when challenged to prove cbs some other kid started with set theory.
mircea_popescu: half hour later he was just about done introducing monotony when the bell rang
mircea_popescu: the matter was never mentioned again.
mircea_popescu: rithm: i'll pay good bitcoin for a -assets tshirt << pinging nubbins ?
mircea_popescu: http://www.popehat.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/STOPLIBELSLANDERINGOURDOCTORSYOU.pdf
mircea_popescu: liberslander!
jurov: ;;later tell nubbins chan clamors for -assets tshirt i recommend the disck surgery motive
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: Berkley — who signs his letter "Dale D. Berkley, Ph.D., J.D."2 — begins by pre-refuting his own point:
mircea_popescu: "Of course Dr. White did not in fact participate in the interview and Dr. Koob did not write the letter attributed to him."
mircea_popescu: When the target of satire complains that it is defamatory, the relevant question is whether the satire can reasonably be taken as a statement of fact about its subject. Dr. Berkley, by saying that "of course" the satirical articles do not reflect the actual words of the subjects, has just proclaimed that the satire he is complaining about cannot be taken as a statement of fact.
mircea_popescu: You paid taxes for that.
mike_c: there is no nubbins. only nubbins`
mircea_popescu: i do not know there is anyone more incompetent alive today than people posing as lawyers for the us federal bureaucracy.
jurov: ;;later tell nubbins` chan clamors for -assets tshirt i recommend the dick surgery motive
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: there is no god. only doge.
mircea_popescu: jurov btw it's "motif"
mircea_popescu: motive in english roughly works like casus in "casus belli"
jurov: that kinda fits too
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1007 @ 0.00099235 = 0.9993 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00099548 = 14.3349 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 33 @ 0.04179847 = 1.3793 BTC [-] {4}
benkay: http://totalfratmove.com/dan-bilzerian-throws-hot-naked-girl-off-roof-by-the-vagina-she-almost-dies/
assbot: Total Frat Move | Dan Bilzerian Throws Hot, Naked Girl Off Roof By The Vagina, She Almost Dies
benkay: http://www.popehat.com/2014/05/15/that-claim-wont-fly/
assbot: That Claim Won't Fly | Popehat
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is that thing "the hottest chick" anyone ever saw ?!
mircea_popescu: jezuz america...
benkay: http://janicexxx.tumblr.com/
assbot: Changes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.07499448 = 2.1748 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: "She was lucky to get away with only a broken foot, but I guess that’s what happens when you don’t listen to something a millionaire tells you to do."
mircea_popescu: that part is spot on.
mircea_popescu: !up Regilio
mircea_popescu: guy tells you not to grab his shirt, you fuckin' don't grab his shirt.
mircea_popescu: benkay http://24.media.tumblr.com/3e1e9f64e7015b91f3103a5207615489/tumblr_n5l6dpZmuu1t1gjr6o1_1280.jpg << no but srsly. she's unhealthy.
benkay: https://twitter.com/thejanicexxx/status/466692977121701888/photo/1 yea srs
assbot: Life is ruff. http://t.co/5ASMEfo8jH
benkay: also lulzily twitter sez that's adult content
mircea_popescu: "Like your client, the facts of the claim won't, quite, fly."
mircea_popescu: ahaha
fluffypony: benkay: those are hotdogs, right?
fluffypony: http://hot-dog-legs.tumblr.com
assbot: Hot-Dog Legs
benkay: that's hilarious
mircea_popescu: benkay too many commas tho.
mircea_popescu: Much like your client, the facts of the claim won't quite fly.
benkay: "I'll let that sink in."
mircea_popescu: :D
benkay: how are these commas my problem?
mircea_popescu: not yours, his
benkay: it's that rhythmic punctuation.
BingoBoingo: http://apple.slashdot.org/story/14/05/15/2114255/apples-revenge-imessage-might-eat-your-texts-if-you-switch-to-android
assbot: Apple's Revenge: iMessage Might Eat Your Texts If You Switch To Android - Slashdot
benkay: apparently one is supposed to write the way one talks these days.
BingoBoingo: benkay: Apparently they haven't completely
mircea_popescu: they kinda fixed it
benkay: i'm already resigned to losing this number.
benkay: it's a crime.
BingoBoingo: The same way Ubuntu "fixed" web fonts
benkay: but i never owned the keys for it, so i guess i never really owned it.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
mircea_popescu: ^
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 448.29, vol: 5697.55655741 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 440.536, vol: 4141.64959 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 446.72, vol: 1987.13722844 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 451.95, vol: 46.88061203 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 444.43734, vol: 1597.93080000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 449.58704, vol: 3.01796103 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 450.95479, vol: 50.48678245 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 445.252555233
mircea_popescu: phone numbers need to move on the gpg format.
benkay: "Mr Bilzerian will never, even permit the case to be resolved prior to the inevitable judgement in his favor."
BingoBoingo: The NSA just needs to open up their data dumps to the public. Just brand it socialized cloud storage, or UberPastebin.
mircea_popescu: benkay "we have more money than you, suck it."
jurov: BingoBoingo: they will be opened regardless. bits want to be free
mircea_popescu: no, it's not that bits want ot be free. it's that any sufficiently large bureaucracy wants to be fucked.
mircea_popescu: in the ass, if possible.
BingoBoingo: jurov: I just think it is the only way this "cloud" concept can be saved
benkay: can't save a concept
benkay: businesses don't need saving
mircea_popescu: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00310599 / 0.00311106 / 0.0031169 (288 shares, 0.90 BTC), 7D: 0.00310046 / 0.00310484 / 0.0031169 (1257 shares, 3.90 BTC), 30D: 0.00294249 / 0.00317913 / 0.00328679 (2452 shares, 7.80 BTC)
mircea_popescu: sorta starting to move a little that thing ?
BingoBoingo: !t m f.mpif
assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0.00021725 / 0.00021725 / 0.00021725 (471 shares, 0.10 BTC), 7D: 0.00021725 / 0.00021725 / 0.00021725 (2111 shares, 0.46 BTC), 30D: 0.000215 / 0.00021509 / 0.00021725 (1054461 shares, 226.81 BTC)
BingoBoingo: %book
atcbot: 56k@238 7k@237 9k@235 | 5k@220 68k@200 4k@195
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12669 @ 0.00099639 = 12.6233 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.0419 = 0.2095 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.04195 = 0.1259 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/05/15/0417210/air-force-prepares-to-dismantle-haarp?utm_source=rss0.9mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed&sbsrc=science
assbot: Air Force Prepares to Dismantle HAARP - Slashdot
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00099402 = 5.2186 BTC [-] {2}
bitcoinpete: yello
fluffypony: green
bitcoinpete: ooo just noticed that benkay went on a blogging bender. nice
bitcoinpete: bloo
bitcoinpete: ;;later tell benkay "the developing world" is a hackneyed term. they're not developing into shit. nor is our progressive definition of the "developed world" anything more than a historical blip, an aberration. toss the dichotomy in the trash along with money laundering
gribble: The operation succeeded.
bitcoinpete: and 20% tax on greek bond capital gains ain't that bad, shocking broken promise aside. 33% for legal entities is a swift kick to the nuts though
benkay: shoulda i put it in scare quotes?
bitcoinpete: where does greece get off thinking they can make their own decisions?
benkay: also w/r/t tax it's criminal. those bonds were tax free until now, i believe.
bitcoinpete: benkay: lol yes
benkay: i was relying on my readers to interpolate scare quotes.
bitcoinpete: don't lean on them too much now
bitcoinpete: and hey, nice bitbet ads
benkay: oh hey i capitalized it
benkay: that should be sarcasm cue enough
benkay: but ty, implementing.
bitcoinpete: caps isn't far enough
bitcoinpete: quotes or all caps
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00099164 = 16.4612 BTC [-] {2}
bitcoinpete: sorry, "capitalized" isn't far enough
benkay: dunzo.
benkay: yeh good pts.
bitcoinpete: it's kinda funny to see bitbet ads on ch
bitcoinpete: the only colour in the joint
benkay: it revolts me
benkay: but i didn't have to work for it
benkay: tradeoffs.
benkay: (revolts is perhaps too strong. much love to mike_c for the ads.)
kakobrekla: but much hate to kako
bitcoinpete: kolour me kako
bitcoinpete: benkay: you should have custom b&w ads
benkay: kakobrekla: bitbet looks great!
kakobrekla: depends on the screen quality
benkay: and how color blind one is
kakobrekla: yeah, maybe MP thinks he bet on NO on berkshire bet
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete ch ?
mircea_popescu: lh
mircea_popescu: oh oh benkay nao has his own acroname ?
bitcoinpete: he's earned it
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lawl
mircea_popescu: was green rihght ?
kakobrekla: green is no yes :)
benkay: hello this is no
bitcoinpete: i watched around the world in 80 days last night and i coulda sworn they used perimutuel betting
bitcoinpete: *pari-mutuel
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla your scam green looking red has made me bet on the wrong side. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-cancel-your-bitbet-bet/
assbot: How to cancel your BitBet bet. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete probably. it was quite popular for all of history, up until some american swindler noticed he can't really rob the punters blind with it.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla OIC, bet 1984985734k btc on otherside
kakobrekla: mhm
kakobrekla: lel
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/ObsoleteDogma/status/467005255042236416
assbot: Worse than a lost decade RT /CardiffGarcia: Japan post-'92 vs euro area post-'08: http://t.co/2sCJZOLGeH
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7787 @ 0.00099093 = 7.7164 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: http://www.buzzfeed.com/mrloganrhoades/38-yahoo-questions-that-will-destroy-your-faith-in-humanity
assbot: 38 Yahoo Questions That Will Destroy Your Faith In Humanity
jurov: i liked #4 .. but then #5 D:
bitcoinpete: #18: do you think nasa invented thunderstorms to cover up the sound of space battles?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.07489252 = 1.0485 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: #23: how turn computer monitor into mirror? scanning a mirror doesn't work
bitcoinpete: lol
jurov: Why does my cat vibrate?
bitcoinpete: i think my cat ate my sex toy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 59 @ 0.07692541 = 4.5386 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07799999 = 0.624 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: monica.txt :D
fluffypony: can there be anything worse than self-styled journalists
fluffypony: with a podcast
fluffypony: https://twitter.com/d_seaman/status/467036201061715968
assbot: Nautiluscoin is cool because it incorporates everything learned about crypto so far, and its helmed by a famous fund manager / CNBC pundit
fluffypony: https://twitter.com/d_seaman/status/467030928481853441
assbot: Nautiluscoin is a classy rebuttal to the people & institutions who said they cant use Bitcoin without knowing its creator.
fluffypony: please someone stab this guy in the face
fluffypony: https://twitter.com/d_seaman/status/466009831896141824
assbot: ~~every coffee shop in 2017~~ Bitcoin, Vertcoin, Myriad accepted here! (for credit cards, additional fees apply)"
bitcoinpete: seaman is a twat
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: I have a special place in my heart filled with vile for him
bitcoinpete: ya he <3 vertcoin, maybe he can do promo for you?
bitcoinpete: for vertpay or w/e
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: we already pulled the entire thing because of him
fluffypony: well not entirely because of him
bitcoinpete: haha i wish it was because of him
fluffypony: Redditards did the groupthink thing and decided we were a scam
fluffypony: and Semen jumped on the bandwagon
benkay: wait vertpay is dead?
bitcoinpete: wait so now reddit calls scams?
benkay: hahaha
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: yep
benkay: no they kill legit operators
benkay: dat mob
fluffypony: benkay: yeah, we pulled it completely
fluffypony: going back to PayBee
bitcoinpete: dogepay is the future of redditards
fluffypony: I've been slowly putting some thoughts down and a timeline of how things went down as a blog post
fluffypony: it's not high priority
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2014#676326 ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
fluffypony: but cathartic
bitcoinpete: blogging is certainly that
fluffypony: well the final straw for me was when some redditard said I control a sea of Reddit accounts
fluffypony: and I'm manipulating all the downvotes
fluffypony: because I'm a "seasoned scammer"
fluffypony: because of course nobody would downvote except the thousands of accounts under my helm
bitcoinpete: get that tinfoil
benkay: this is one of those "company you keep" situations.
fluffypony: benkay: from which perspective? (got 1am slow-brain atm)
bitcoinpete: but... "teh community"
benkay: if every altcoin is a scam
benkay: ...
fluffypony: ah yes
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: phone numbers need to move on the gpg format. << this, i'd like to see
mircea_popescu: !up kdomanski
mircea_popescu: <assbot> Nautiluscoin is cool because it incorporates everything learned about crypto so far, and its helmed by a famous fund manager / CNBC pundit << yeah, the max keiser string of scamcoins (keisercoin, auroracoin) all worked splendid.
mircea_popescu: defo needs more of the same.
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/d_seaman/status/467051286278725632
assbot: Nautiluscoin ends amateur hour for Scrypt coins.
bitcoinpete: he won't shut up
mircea_popescu: !up duduqa
mircea_popescu: fluffypony every god damned fucking noob does this. "oh, biggest ever" "let me tell you about my design"
mircea_popescu: insufficient humility in the english speaking space.
bitcoinpete: because the americans haven't produced anything for years
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: agreed - plus David Seaman is a special case
bitcoinpete: they're reduced to marketing and fiat finance. both of which are hot air
bitcoinpete: no one in the usa has been successful at anything other than talking in a generation
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00098935 = 15.6317 BTC [-] {2}
bitcoinpete: so they talk about shit like "With DigiShield, the difficulty is allowed to decrease in larger movements than it is allowed to increase from block to block. This keeps a blockchain from getting "stuck" i.e., not finding the next block for several hours following a major drop in the net hash of coin. It is all a balancing act. "
bitcoinpete: from the nautiluscoin site
BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: I took a shit this morning...
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/d_seaman/status/467083442120040449
assbot: Nautiluscoin ends amateur hour for Scrypt coins.
fluffypony: lol
bitcoinpete: "I don’t justify myself to random people. You asked me a question. I answered it."
fluffypony: bitcoinpete
fluffypony: you're missing the point
fluffypony: it's a "TRUE PROFESSIONAL COIN"
fluffypony: David said so
bitcoinpete: jeebus
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> bitcoinpete: yep <<< uh that didn't take so long...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.421 = 2.105 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: !up lobbes
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yeah, been quite bummed out / annoyed over the last few days because of the way things went down, but meh, over it now
mircea_popescu: <bitcoinpete> no one in the usa has been successful at anything other than talking in a generation << ouch. kinda unsettlingly truthy this
bitcoinpete: why ty
mircea_popescu: who is this seaman fellow anyway.
benkay: oi
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: he's a REPORTER because he has a podcast
mircea_popescu: i can't find anything in particular. is he like boxxy w/o tits ?
benkay: i've successfully derped, youse guise.
mircea_popescu: benkay please do not condescend @me by using a gender pronoun!
bitcoinpete: http://davidseaman.com
assbot: David Seaman | Podcaster / Writer / Journalist
fluffypony: View count: 235
fluffypony: he should sell ad space
mircea_popescu: oh come on.
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSjLiQxEZlM
assbot: You can do Anything! - YouTube
mircea_popescu: "i posted a youtube and 1000 people have watched, so therefore i assume everyone has heard of me and admires my work"
bitcoinpete: he works for meagre, meagre tips
mircea_popescu: so then pay him.
mircea_popescu: how many trillions of his shitcoin does a btc buy ?
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: Total Received0.32923659 BTC
fluffypony: plus he has to pay for dem LA lattes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.42100222 = 2.526 BTC [+] {2}
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: well if he lived in the uk, seaman could replace lattes with netflix, just like momma cpi said
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/467084168862920705
assbot: Nautiluscoin ends amateur hour for Scrypt coins.
bitcoinpete: aaaand seaman quit the convo
bitcoinpete: fun while it lasted
fluffypony: Twitter ragequit?
fluffypony: :-P
bitcoinpete: lol i do what i can
bitcoinpete: also, spotted a beauty comment on one of seaman's youtube vids: "There is another channel with the same name, but its probably somebody copying the original to get views!"
bitcoinpete: on a video with 2200 views...
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101573131
assbot: How I created my own bitcoin-like currencyFast MoneyCommentary
fluffypony: http://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2014/04/09/101569917-BKdesk.530x298.jpg?v=1397073198
fluffypony: that's him creating Nautiluscoin
kakobrekla: where is the joke here?
fluffypony: kakobrekla: what we want...nay, what we NEED is a cryptocurrency created by a CNBC contributor
mike_c: with a fleece vest
fluffypony: especially one that has a stabilisation fund
kakobrekla: ok, cause i was looking at the multi monitor setup and going hmm why doesnt he turn the side ones towards him and i couldnt find the joke
fluffypony: "One percent of Nautiluscoin was pre-mined and will be used to capitalize the NSF."
bitcoinpete: another foundation!
bitcoinpete: o, fund
bitcoinpete: same shit
fluffypony: lol
kakobrekla: anyone made a foundation fund yet?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 180 @ 0.00300018 = 0.54 BTC [-] {4}
fluffypony: oh ffs
fluffypony: I suggested on Reddit that someone turn their Reddit bet into a BitBet bet
fluffypony: now I'm getting spam
kakobrekla: where are you getting spam
fluffypony: "I noticed your reply to the price bottom bet thread, and I think you might be interested in our soft-launch of BetMoose.com."
fluffypony: kakobrekla: on Reddit
fluffypony x-posts to /r/reportthespammers
bitcoinpete: lol
kakobrekla: well, they do have css.