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mircea_popescu: quite comparable.
mircea_popescu: the reason isis is such a problem is that they're not even comparable, but homologuous.
BingoBoingo: Aztalan (modeling on Sinaloa) is not the "Homicide da Union" but a business like any other government.
BingoBoingo: Sure, they want slaves and pubic furs.
mircea_popescu: better than any government. because, again, laissez faire and rape-y. can't argue with that.
BingoBoingo: Well, that
BingoBoingo: But rape-y is more Los-Zetas
shinohai: https://github.com/n1nj4sec/pr0cks <<< well this shit actually works w/ realbitcoin ^^
assbot: n1nj4sec/pr0cks · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1LgoPyK )
trinque: most Texans would protest that they'd fit well with Mexico, but I begin to see it
trinque: people tend to protest the things that are most true, anyway
shinohai: kinda unecessary
mircea_popescu: i wonder, incidentally, how, when or if will the us-style feminist conceptualize that her notions of gender identity and female rights imposes a significant cost on the community, and as a result ensures a) its downfal and b) the mass rape of most females and some males dumb enough to have participated, deserved, as spoils of war.
BingoBoingo: Better Mexico than those damned Yanks
asciilifeform: shinohai: it is trivial, why shouldn't it work ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: posthumously
shinohai: It seems a little too complicated to do what it does.
mircea_popescu: maybe.
shinohai: Why jump through all dem hoops
mircea_popescu: maybe not even then. "socialism was never really tried" etc.
asciilifeform: prolly one of those things that will never entirely disappear for so long as there are 'immunocompromised' decaying civilizations, etc
mircea_popescu: aha.
trinque: mircea_popescu: it does seem to be a sort of suicidality
trinque: many of those types that I've known in Portland clearly hate themselves, and engage in all kinds of self-destructive behavior
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> better than any government << from safe distance. right now, as i understand, they are in what '90s ru called 'initial capital allocation.' which tends to involve some mess - machine-gunning of whole hamlets to prove a point, etc
mircea_popescu: "I've mentioned this countless times but I think it's obvious that true consensus should be coming from the largest, decentralized group in the Bitcoin space: its users around the world." << how the fuck is a bunch of circlejerking derps, who don't even REALISE that google's been feeding them results tailored to their own stupidity for a decade, who think wikipedia is a source of knowledge and whose enjoyment mostly co
mircea_popescu: mes from hanging out with groups of similar retards strictly to farm fake agreement, DECENTRALIZED
mircea_popescu: it is THE MOST centralized thing in both theory and practice. and probably the source of all others.
mircea_popescu: certainly the source of the state in all its broken implementations to date, from nazi socialism and soviet socialism all the way to obama and peron populisms.
mircea_popescu: (the two are so strictly undistinct... omfg. us took 200 years to catch up to post-ww2 argentina)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ...how the fuck is a bunch of circlejerking derps, who don't even REALISE << with this here perl script, which emulates the lot of'em with a few pr0xies, how else
mircea_popescu: right.
asciilifeform: farm fake agreement << as pictured in herr chomsky's 'manufacturing consent' etc
mircea_popescu: anyway. no, the "community" is not decentralized now, could not be decentralized in the future.
asciilifeform: (i just like the title)
mircea_popescu: quite like that yes.
thestringpuller: https://gpgtools.org << dunno how I feel about these guys yet but they accept bitcoin
BingoBoingo: When in doubt, burn with fire
mircea_popescu: the notion that the group of redditards is "decentralized" is not unlike the proposition that salem at the time of the witch trials was "good christians".
mircea_popescu: ie, "we the people - goodword of today"
trinque: thestringpuller: I don't see the need to bolt a mac gui to gpg
trinque: actcually makes for more cumbersome use than at the command line
trinque: *actually
thestringpuller: trinque: i installed it to use the command line tools. it's kinda akin to installing xcode to have clang to run a gcc like thing...
thestringpuller: didn't know if they committed to like a mac branch of gpg or something or its just all gui shit
BingoBoingo: When did you get a mac thestringpuller
BingoBoingo: So #OpenBSDPrivilege https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/633433130733555712
BingoBoingo: "@petertoddbtc Why a /dev/ and not a call to the kernel for such matters? @EliteRaspberrie @dchest @zooko"
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 256.88, vol: 8801.72508523 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 254.371, vol: 4521.57078 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 258.45, vol: 9933.81721964 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 265.0, vol: 21.37730152 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 257.252976, vol: 11291.98050000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 258.6391, vol: 85.6495071 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 257.115059889, vol: 27.43535912 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: average: 257.133544026
gernika: Here's some "decentralization" for you: http://www.backbxt.com/
assbot: BackBXT: Start a full BitcoinXT node by sending bitcoin. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LgqmF4 )
asciilifeform: 1) pseudonode 2) collect idiots' coin 3) ??? 4) profit (tm) (r)
asciilifeform: (for bonus points, pseudonode-on-botnet)
gernika: My first thought yes
asciilifeform: btw there is no reason known to me that the bulk of the supposed 6k nodez could not be the above.
mircea_popescu: idiots SHOULD be relieved of their burden.
asciilifeform: how else.
mircea_popescu: the less they have the better the world.
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3hbdwl/the_work_left_undone/ << kinda lukewarm effort, but not bad bit-Coin polymorphic notationz.
assbot: The work left undone : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1LgqCnq )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd rather the crows ate'em
asciilifeform: not like fat, emboldened sc4mz0rz are good for anything
asciilifeform: (to eat?)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> not like fat, emboldened sc4mz0rz are good for anything << Butuchyag
mircea_popescu: there is that.
BingoBoingo: Literally worse than children https://slimgur.com/images/2015/08/17/df94660ede2549640bccad73c5bee957.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LgrcS6 )
BingoBoingo: !up Bjander
BingoBoingo: !up refferedby
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28900 @ 0.00075671 = 21.8689 BTC [+] {4}
BingoBoingo: (Hashtag)Censored on Reddit https://voat.co/v/bitcoin/comments/424145
assbot: Checking your bits ... ( http://bit.ly/1K2UViG )
BingoBoingo: Two consecutive days Qntra has been at the top of /v/bitcoin but to be fair this time it took all of 4 upvotes
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wtf is the point of that site.
asciilifeform: all i ever see is that idiot cloudflare banner
BingoBoingo: Thank you Obamacare for giving this self identified Hamgalaxy a CPAP so she doesn't choke on the weight of her chest in her sleep https://archive.is/no0PJ
assbot: Why it's time for radical fat acceptance ... ( http://bit.ly/1LgtEId )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It trolls Ycombinator's reddit. Otherwise worthless. I derp on it and egg on the controversy with dirty quarentine browser
BingoBoingo: !up kyuupichan
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00074836 = 24.0972 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: No reason to bother with the voat cloudflare wall at all if you don't care to afflict the stupid
wilbns: http://blog.blockchain.com/2015/08/16/achievement-unlocked-4-million-bitcoin-wallets/
assbot: Achievement Unlocked – 4 million bitcoin wallets | Blockchain Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lgu6Gm )
mircea_popescu: "radical fat acceptance" ?
wilbns: ^ not true.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.00073639 = 15.1328 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: could we instead accept 1% more fat each year ?
wilbns: Sorry, was saying "not true" in relation to the link.
wilbns: That number counts users who have multiple wallet identifiers, and also algorithmically created via the API.
wilbns: Also, numbers significantly were inflated in spring of 2014 as a result of this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20pvln/blockchaininfo_coming_online_phased_restore/
assbot: Blockchain.info coming online - phased restore : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1K2Wux2 )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> could we instead accept 1% more fat each year ? << No. It breaks the BritneyChain
mircea_popescu: ;;google trei grasulii se leganau pe o pinza de paianjen...
gribble: No matches found.
mircea_popescu: orly
wilbns: It's annoying, because there are some good and kind people who work at Blockchain.info, but there are some "not right" things going on at the top.
mircea_popescu: wilbns i think this is pretty much known, but yeah.
BingoBoingo: wilbns: Blockchain.info went rogue soon after they took investment from the wrong crowd. Irreparible now.
BingoBoingo: Can't even par
wilbns: One time I was asked by Peter Smith to find early charts of PayPal total payments volume to compare to Blockchain Total Payments volume. Was told by Peter Smith that him and Nic Cary were in Silicon Valley meeting with former PayPal executives and venture capitalists (this was before they secured their raise), to whom they were comparing early Blockchain
wilbns: growth rate as being something even more rapid and promising than PayPal total payments volume. It was then that I realized there were instances where people were potentially being mislead that the Blockchain total payments volume was actually Blockchain.info total payments volume.
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3gmn15/mining_for_comedy_gold_in_the_rbitcoin_corpus/ << the bruce fentonfail is pretty good lol
assbot: Mining for comedy gold in the r/bitcoin corpus : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1K2WSvm )
mircea_popescu: wilbns doh.
mircea_popescu: i do not credit this "nice people working for scammers" theory.
mircea_popescu: no reprieve. nic carey used to be a good guy, he's as scummy as any scumbag now. this is his doing, and not my problem.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00073227 = 8.7872 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: One time Ryan X Charles before he adopted that name approached my IRL name to set up St Louis Bitcoin meetup and I told him I don't want to meet the sort of people that would live in St Louis an share his kind of interest in Bitcoin.
thestringpuller: LOL
thestringpuller: Ryan X Charles is from MO?
BingoBoingo: He was in a physics phd program at one of the St Louis universities before he went to BitPay. At the time he contacted me I think he was still using a slave name.
thestringpuller: Now he is professor X.
asciilifeform: today i learned that...
asciilifeform: SWAG still exists! http://swag.delphidabbler.com
assbot: SWAG Archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1K2XuRK )
asciilifeform: (nothing at all to do with 'delphi.' mega-classic archive of algo snippets, mainly for borland's turbopascal)
asciilifeform: holy fuck.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: (nothing at all to do with 'delphi') << this didn't stop me from looking up delphi of the 90's lol
mircea_popescu: nothing ever went away. everything just got drowned.
asciilifeform looks for the copy of 'gold bug' virus that some derp threw into swag and claimed as 'universal decompilator'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'that is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange eons even death may die' (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu feels tempted to rewrite that one too.
asciilifeform: ^^^
asciilifeform: do it!11
mircea_popescu: im going to end up the english language's foremost hack.
BingoBoingo still has machines somewhere vulnerable to N.vir
asciilifeform: now why didn't this schmuck make the entries linkable
asciilifeform: i mean, wtf.
asciilifeform: gotta 'javascriptate' everything, aha
asciilifeform: ferfuxxake
asciilifeform: http://web.archive.org/web/20110227081730/http://www.bsdg.org/SWAG << better.
assbot: Main SWAG (Sourceware Archive Group) HTML Index ... ( http://bit.ly/1K2Y9CM )
asciilifeform: http://web.archive.org/web/20080704193847/http://www.bsdg.org/SWAG/STRINGS/0096.PAS.html << example
assbot: "RPos in BASM" by EDDY THILLEMAN ... ( http://bit.ly/1K2YgON )
asciilifeform: http://www.retroarchive.org/swag << proper archive. ☟︎
assbot: Main SWAG (Sourceware Archive Group) HTML Index ... ( http://bit.ly/1flRjLV )
asciilifeform: http://www.retroarchive.org/swag/MISC/0168.PAS.html << try & write this for modern system (NO WWW IDIOCY) in this many lines.
assbot: "TURBO PONG GAME" by GLENN REIFF ... ( http://bit.ly/1flRsPi )
asciilifeform: http://www.retroarchive.org/swag/MISC/0004.PAS.html << movie player.
assbot: "FLI File player" by SWAG SUPPORT TEAM ... ( http://bit.ly/1K2YMME )
asciilifeform: (yes)
asciilifeform: these, one might add, are SELF-CONTAINED (with exception of msdos and occasional bios call.) no 'libraries'
asciilifeform: http://www.retroarchive.org/swag/MISC/0209.PAS.html << eliza.
assbot: "TP6-7 example of Eliza" by SWAG SUPPORT TEAM ... ( http://bit.ly/1flRKpr )
asciilifeform: http://www.retroarchive.org/swag/DATATYPE/0026.PAS.html << lulzy derp
assbot: "Encryption Theory" by KANDA'JALEN EIRSIE ... ( http://bit.ly/1K2Z7Po )
asciilifeform: ^ in case anyone thinks idiocy was invented yesterday
phf: being able to write pascal in delphi was like the right of passage for moscows programmer boys. i thought i was the shit with my dozen of delphi programmers until good folk at msu cmc unix room gently explained to me that i'm an idiot, told me to install freebsd and gave a copy of "programming in c language" by podbelsky and fomin. probably one the earliest books i've purchased still on my bookshelf
asciilifeform: delphi happened under winblowz and therefore for me never happened.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.retroarchive.org/swag/DATATYPE/0033.PAS.html << lifecoin !
assbot: "Life/Mutation Algorithms" by NICK VERMEULEN ... ( http://bit.ly/1K2ZdGV )
mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: phf: now, turbopascal 7 for msdos - ~happened~ !
phf: ha, i remember we opted to use turbopascal for some programming olympiada and made a terrible mess out of it. basically were expect to come in some place, but we couldn't even finish the program
asciilifeform: bbbut... it even had built-in dictionary of keywords
asciilifeform: what could be easier.
asciilifeform to this day considers any programming environment that can't display a full reference to the language on demand, optionally searchable by keyword at current cursor, to be inferior
asciilifeform nostalgic from the naivete of the 'encryption' section in 'swag'
imsaguy: hi kids!
BingoBoingo: WHat's up tripeSlash?
imsaguy: nada. just censoring people and stuff.
imsaguy: How are you?
BingoBoingo: Not bad. Just stuffing cotton towels in social media toilets, taking a shit, and flushing them.
imsaguy: hah
imsaguy: Its amazing the amount of vitriol that is out there amongst people that probably don't even know the real difference between the two forks.
imsaguy: yes, amazing assbot is amazing.
imsaguy: ;;sell 1 amazing company @ 1 bajillion dollars
gribble: Error: 'company' is not a valid price input.
trinque: anybody ever use an oldschool tracker for music production?
asciilifeform: me.
trinque: they seem *almost* right
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00072019 = 26.575 BTC [-] {4}
trinque: asciilifeform: neat!
asciilifeform: (though it is debatable whether the output was 'music')
trinque: Renoise is a decent modern equivalent imo
asciilifeform: there is no modern equivalent.
asciilifeform: (to, e.g., 'fasttracker')
trinque: how so?
asciilifeform: for one thing, 'fastracker' didn't crack, didn't need window dragging or tab flipping,
trinque: ah sure, in that sense
asciilifeform: didn't need a heavy multiprocess operating system,
asciilifeform: was more or less superior in every way to the linked example.
asciilifeform: *didn't crash
asciilifeform: ever.
trinque: I've never killed renoise, but anyhow, my actual complaint is that I can't call arbitrary chunks of noise a function and reuse them
trinque: must be a rectangle including all instruments
asciilifeform: http://www.madwizard.org/images/content/el/modplayer/fasttracker2.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1flTaAj )
trinque: well fuck you renoise, I want just the drums and bass in this part
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell btcdrak you disconnected so actually will have to revoice self when this message is recieved
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: trinque: there are things that could be had today only if you were to recreate the world of yesterday.
asciilifeform: fortunately, this is not difficult. (on your desk, at least.)
trinque: I'm starting to lean towards wanting a programming language for this (yes lisp)
trinque: for example I commonly want to take a lick and move it around a scale some
trinque: for great noodlage
[\\\]: kinky
trinque: that's a function with a root note and a scale as arguments
BingoBoingo: The only piece of "music software" I truly liked was "Noteworthy Composer"
trinque: I actually wrote what I describe above in python
trinque: and trashed it all
trinque: because the python was getting in the way of how I wanted to express it in language, of course
trinque: I was utterly ignorant of lisp at the time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.0007142 = 9.7488 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: here you go asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/that-one-with-the-eons/
assbot: That one with the eons. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1K30Y6W )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00074028 = 3.0351 BTC [+]
phf: asciilifeform: i know right. none of us used it before, and really were so cocky we durped till last moment. it's my only and very vivid memory of turbopascal
phf: it's probably same year, that i was switched to freebsd, so never actually programmed for dos. i did write a tsr to do a memory dump on a keypress few years later
phf: used it to cheat in games heh (i think there were a dozen of variations of that idea) ☟︎
mats: http://fortune.com/2015/08/04/facebook-loan-approval-network
assbot: Facebook Snags Patent For Approving Loans Based On Your Social Network - Fortune ... ( http://bit.ly/1flU1AW )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20933 @ 0.00072262 = 15.1266 BTC [-]
mats: >When an individual applies for a loan, the lender examines the credit ratings of members of the individual’s social network who are connected to the individual through authorized nodes. If the average credit rating of these members is at least a minimum credit score, the lender continues to process the loan application. Otherwise, the loan application is ☟︎
mats: rejected.
mats: A+ ☟︎
wilbns: ah, the grey area of profiling.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5017 @ 0.00072262 = 3.6254 BTC [-]
scoopbot_revived: That one with the eons. http://trilema.com/2015/that-one-with-the-eons/
mats: nothing can go wrong
wilbns: 25 years ago there was no Facebook and a fledgling Internet - many people were still using a BBS or interacting with one another using AOL, CompuServe or Prodigy. A smartphone did not exist. It will be interesting in another 25 years to see the path of where things will go. I wonder if we were teleported there tomorrow if we would recognize it.
wilbns: ...and what other things will be derived from social networks.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l!!
asciilifeform: spiffy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00070927 = 5.7451 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241709 << this will be ruthlessly suppresses because it is RACIST ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 02:39:32; mats: >When an individual applies for a loan, the lender examines the credit ratings of members of the individual’s social network who are connected to the individual through authorized nodes. If the average credit rating of these members is at least a minimum credit score, the lender continues to process the loan application. Otherwise, the loan application is
asciilifeform: then again, a back door may be found for it to safely walk through, like google's employment not-iq-really-fuck-you-not-iq tests
mats: if social networks as they exist nao are still a thing i will eat a bullet
asciilifeform: still a thing..?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241705 << recall 'gametool' and 'gamewizard' ? ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 02:35:23; phf: used it to cheat in games heh (i think there were a dozen of variations of that idea)
mats: 'in another 25 years'
wilbns: mats: thinking it is going to be three-dimensional, where you interact w/ your social network wearing some sort of oculus rift-themed devise in an alternate reality. people will choose that over this one. and then many will truly become ambivalent to things that are happening in "real" life
wilbns: device*
asciilifeform: wilbns: v. pelevin had a hilarious sf yarn where people not only did this, but fucked this way
mats: sure, for people that don't need to work to live
asciilifeform: (fucking assigned receptacle/inverse, as case may be, but seeing their idiotbook simulacrum at ~all~ times in the goggles)
wilbns: mats: people will be employed to execute roles in cyberspace. telecommuting and working from home is the first step. ☟︎
asciilifeform: which were not removable except at great peril.
asciilifeform: mats: 'work' also inside the machine.
trinque: god sounds terrible.
asciilifeform: (as most already do)
trinque: the only thing I do via social media is barf articles at family in the hopes that they read
trinque: specifically, seeing your meatwot at all times on some device...
BingoBoingo: https://slimgur.com/images/2015/08/17/5bb6d7f9bba424cc18b5a09006bd0367.png ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1flV9o8 )
mats: i imagine modern civilization will decay too quickly for wilbns universe to materialize
trinque: imagine that's your cousin, and now your brain implant means you have to see that all day
wilbns: asciilifeform: thanks for the tip!
asciilifeform: trinque: nah you see his 'avatar'
asciilifeform: trinque: which is a catgurl or the like.
mats: huk
asciilifeform: the book was, iirc, 'love of the three zuckerbrins'
asciilifeform: but afaik no english ver
asciilifeform: nor ever expect one!
asciilifeform: learn fucking languages.
phf: what was that bad russian scifi dood, who did sort of like a hodgepodge of cyberpunk literature
asciilifeform: him.
asciilifeform: http://pelevin.nov.ru << that one
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1flVjvU )
wilbns: mats: agreed, that is the challenge - what exactly is happening in the status quo. food shortages, never before seen droughts, threat of a credit bubble collapsing, the middle easten on the verge and russia/china moving further away in their relations w/ europe and the us each new day. what is next.
trinque: asciilifeform | trinque: which is a catgurl or the like. << LOL
mats: dollar collapse is whats next
mats: the rest of the world failing around you is the early warning system
phf: asciilifeform: this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth_of_Reflections
assbot: Labyrinth of Reflections - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1flVneU )
BingoBoingo: Welcome to the Terror Dome, er... Terra Foam
asciilifeform: phf: entirely other fella, but familiar theme, aha
wilbns: mats: maybe. there was an interesting quote you just made me think of - "a recession is when your neighbor loses his or her job. a depression is when you lose yours"
asciilifeform: ^ orlov's 'you will not be told when collapse has happened, only when it has happened to ~you~'
wilbns: ah that's a good quote, so true
asciilifeform: <mats> the rest of the world failing around you is the early warning system << distinguish the natural (drought) from the usg-engineered (just about everything else) failures.
asciilifeform: to the engineers, those aren't failures.
asciilifeform: they are - successes.
phf: asciilifeform: have you read his чапаев и пустота?
asciilifeform: phf: aha!
asciilifeform: there is, iirc, even an english transl somewhere!
BingoBoingo: Last week I read a lot of "California beat the drought" stories based on more people in Compton working at McDonalds
asciilifeform: mats: usg, like wheat (the latter as described in mircea_popescu's essay 'when you become wheat') thrives in a half-destroyed world ☟︎
mats: welp, i like a game of 'catch the falling knife' as well as anybody
asciilifeform: like post-ww2
BingoBoingo: "But California GDP GREW!!!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00070376 = 13.7937 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: As the state burns
phf: asciilifeform: yeah, gave the english version to my girl to read
mats: i am still unprepared to flee to .cn
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15453 @ 0.00070799 = 10.9406 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mats: usg, like wheat (the latter as described in mircea_popescu's essay 'when you become wheat') thrives in a half-destroyed world << Corn loves raw manure, but wheat demand you first light the manure and then till it into the field
asciilifeform: phf: girl digested it ?!!!
phf: first thing she asked what's up with russians and schwarzenegger
wilbns: it does seem the dollar is someone in store for a beating, perhaps that is what will stop interest rates from rising or enable more QE to continue
wilbns: somewhat*
wilbns: sheesh i don't know what's up w/ my spelling.
BingoBoingo: <mats> i am still unprepared to flee to .cn << We all have to contemplate destinations other than what we though were Door #1
BingoBoingo: <wilbns> sheesh i don't know what's up w/ my spelling. << I'm drunk. It seriously affects everyone's spelling.
mats: folks the world over are buying USD as their own currencies get devalued by USG mismanagement
wilbns: haha
mats: this is what is presumably stopping interest rates from going up
BingoBoingo: ofc mats
asciilifeform: mats: been there, done that, traded a shoebox full of toiletpaper money (printed on usg-donated presses during collapse!) for $1 usd.
asciilifeform: (as a boy)
mats: i hope my dollars will still be good for renminbi exchange when the time comes
phf: asciilifeform: she enjoyed it, and picked up on some subtleties, in any case more then i expected, but i think it was good enough for first reading
asciilifeform: mats: they're good... now
asciilifeform: mats: buying ticket yet ?
mats: or, you know, the buttcoins, but i dunno whether we'll ever win the war at this rate
BingoBoingo: <mats> or, you know, the buttcoins, but i dunno whether we'll ever win the war at this rate << War was won.
mats: asciilifeform: nope, its at least five years in the distance
asciilifeform: why wait?
asciilifeform: if you're cn-compatible, buy ticket, sail.
asciilifeform: if not - won't be in 5 years, or 55
mats: for all practical purposes i am illiterate and have almost no meatwot there
mats: still need to eat
asciilifeform: mats is originally from cn ? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Given 2015 so far Hearnia must have planned to actually release XTCoin the first weekend of September. He ended up jumping the gun because USG pinoy spamzors. We won. ☟︎
phf: i gave her "kniga oborotnya" and she concluded that the book was dull and poorly paced, which is something i agree with, probably my least favorite p book
mats: originally from hk
asciilifeform: phf: ditto, also least favourite
asciilifeform: mats: then at least you have the mega-superpower that folks can't tell immediately by face that you couldn't possibly have meatwot
wilbns: it seems fiat currencies will continue to exist for many generations to come, perhaps actual paper form will deminish, but an electronic register or display of some number of dollars for whoever the viewer is, will carry with it some semblance of wealth ☟︎
asciilifeform: wilbns: see thread: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2014#499423 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2014 01:31:58; asciilifeform: ifetimes some tin-pot pseudo-nationalist leader will print up ugly slips of paper with pictures of dead people, Masonic symbols and big numbers, and attempt to charge people for using them as a medium of exchange in all transactions, and your great-grandchildren need to know, from an early age, that it is a scam. It is an official scvam, backed up by the threat of violence, but it is still a scam."
BingoBoingo: Hearn lost so bad "unidentified" turrorist bombed expat Thailand today. Presumably to try to get Goat and scare people with insulfation faith in USG out of defecting.
BingoBoingo: Oh, that was an odd autocorrect
mats: asciilifeform: things haven't degenerated enough in us for me to consider returning
mats: can't do computing work if i can't even read the damned terminals
BingoBoingo: mats: What if your USG designated FEMA number puts your camp in southwest Missouri?
wilbns: these new derivative markets that are forming out of distributed / shared ledger technology could perhaps be the new stage for some form of electronic economy that will exist on a trillion/quadrillion level. the average person may only perceive that kind of scale at the end of the year, when milk costs $10
mats: BingoBoingo: plz break me out, there is a bitcoin reward in it for you
BingoBoingo: mats: First I'll have to know you are in. Second I will have to not be in Chicago fema camp (because FEMA must take us to the places we hate most)
phf: mats: i have a former colleague from a financial firm, who moved to hk recently, he's chinese, but i take it his mandarin is poor and cantonese non-existent. he's working for an english speaking company there and slowly getting his language up to speed. his reasoning for the move was "this boat is leaking"
mats: phf: i have the same plan, but presumably further behind in my career than him
BingoBoingo: mats: What though is stopping you from moving to Aztalan?
mats: BingoBoingo: a state park?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if i had to guess, it's the desire to earn living with terminal rather than kalash
BingoBoingo: ;;ud aztalan
gribble: Google found nothing.
BingoBoingo: ;;google aztalan
gribble: Aztalan State Park Home - i94.biz: <http://i94.biz/aztalan/aztalan.html>; Aztalan State Park - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztalan_State_Park>; Aztalan State Park - Wisconsin DNR: <http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/parks/name/aztalan/>
asciilifeform: mno
wilbns: asciilifeform: ah yes, thanks for the link - imagining one day in fact how silly it will be to hold up a $100 bill, or to go to an ATM. perhaps only those in "emerging markets" or "third world countries" will use such types of antiquated technologies and means of exchange.
asciilifeform: aztlan.
asciilifeform: ~aztlan~
BingoBoingo: ;;google los zeta
gribble: Los Zetas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Zetas>; How 34 commandos created Mexico's most brutal drug cartel ...: <http://www.businessinsider.com/how-34-commandos-created-mexicos-most-brutal-drug-cartel-2015-3>; 13 things to know about Los Zetas, the ruthless Mexican drug cartel ...: <http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/10-things- (1 more message)
wilbns: (note sarcasm regarding ATMs and emerging markets)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mno << /me been drunk for a while
asciilifeform: http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html << lulzy
assbot: What is Aztlan, Raza, and MEChA ... ( http://bit.ly/1Npkhbv )
BingoBoingo: <wilbns> asciilifeform: ah yes, thanks for the link - imagining one day in fact how silly it will be to hold up a $100 bill, or to go to an ATM. perhaps only those in "emerging markets" or "third world countries" will use such types of antiquated technologies and means of exchange. << I personally plan on eventually only every trading in an out of Bitcoin with year's worth of whatever the local bottlecaps happen to be
asciilifeform: ;;ud aztlan
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Aztlan | The area (as distinguished above) of Aztlan has been under the rule of invaders; ruthless, war-like, greedy imperial powers, since the Spanish first colonized it.
mats: why would zetas trust a chinese american citizen
phf: mats: he was a junior at the company, so not much of a career. i think the objective is to work for a company that has offices at multiple locations. when i worked for another bank that will remain nameless, the opportunity was always implied from the beginning. in fact a lot of places like that love people with no local attachments, because means easy and cheap relocation.
mats: if for my computing skills... not good enough at pwning arbitrary systems to be useful (yet)
BingoBoingo: mats: Right shade?
mats: if to carry rifle, plenty of mexicans for that task already
BingoBoingo: Not really
wilbns: BingoBoingo: that would be a nice outcome from where we are now, being able to move in and out so easily. hopefully by that point there will also be less volatility to the downside in relation to the bottlecaps.
mats: phf: welp, my eyeballs are peeled for opportunities, am actually looking for interesting work atm
phf: mats: where are you located?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00071589 = 11.8838 BTC [+]
mats: boston
BingoBoingo: wilbns: As far as you need be concerned though I have less than a proper transaction fee in BTC.
BingoBoingo also looking for fiat paying work, but only in positions where the only economic consequence of my employment would be occupying an already fungible position
asciilifeform: mats: this probably won't shock you, but it is possible to know how to do 10,001 useful and rare things, and still starve.
mircea_popescu: it is actually common.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: sop, even.
mircea_popescu: clueless people haver a lot more sense than to starve.
wilbns: BingoBoingo: roger that
mircea_popescu: (in proper terms : clueless people don't have what to delude themselves with)
asciilifeform: sure they do
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241711 << that shit's so retarded i hope they do it. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 02:40:26; mats: A+
[\\\]: someone say bacon?
asciilifeform: and also fish!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241726 << the word is dlh! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 02:53:19; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241705 << recall 'gametool' and 'gamewizard' ?
mats: imsaguy returns
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was it also a spiffy tsr that could be invoked at any time and would look for ~changed bytes~ in ram ?
[\\\]: I've b een around, "censoring" people.
mircea_popescu: no, dirty little helper was a lengthy collection of various tidbits.
mircea_popescu: walkthroughs, cheatcodes, etc.
asciilifeform: ah!
asciilifeform: like 'ovdocs'
asciilifeform: ^ epic, still worth reading today for the lulz
mircea_popescu: aha.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15995 @ 0.0007173 = 11.4732 BTC [+]
phf: asciilifeform: i didn't get my hands on one of those until early 2000s, hence had to write my own. i vaguely recall a collection of tsr on a hacker tools cd that i bought in a metro perehod :), but at the time i somehow didn't pay enough attention to them
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241775 << the point here being (perhaps unfamiliar to some readers) that wheat is not a sort of plant that survives, except in particular situations : say post volcanic eruption, when everything's been burned down. then the weed makes a quick colonisation, because of its disproportionate seeds. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 03:04:29; asciilifeform: mats: usg, like wheat (the latter as described in mircea_popescu's essay 'when you become wheat') thrives in a half-destroyed world
mircea_popescu: but then in a few years it's drownerd out by more sanely balanced plants.
mircea_popescu: it should be noted that the civilisation that chose to feed itself on wheat, a plant famous for and a plant whose only strategy is, to overinvest in its progeniture
mircea_popescu: ended up overinvesting in its progeniture.
asciilifeform: was gonna say.
mircea_popescu: pure coincidence, but lulzy.
asciilifeform: max k-strategy
mircea_popescu: aha.
BingoBoingo: Ukrs!!!
mircea_popescu: mno.
BingoBoingo: Kansas!!!
asciilifeform: l-kansas.
phf: asciilifeform: mine worked by doing a core dump on key press, and then you had to do a binary diff on a set of those. i kind of realized that i could put a diff/search algo into the tsr, but that was beyond my algorithm construction abilities at the time
asciilifeform always insisted that either kansas ought to be pronounced 'kensaw', or 'arkansas' ought to be r-kansas.
BingoBoingo: d-kansas is refered to as Arkansas in the common tongue, grows rice
asciilifeform: hence kansas is l-kansas.
wilbns: yes, riceland, stuttgart
asciilifeform: d- also worx
BingoBoingo: When alternatives always default to levo and dexo as options over trans and cis for the lulz
wilbns: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riceland_Foods
assbot: Riceland Foods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1NplLm4 )
BingoBoingo: But dex-Kensaw civilized. Levo-Kensaw barbarians General Quatrill was more than right to burn
BingoBoingo: *Quantrill
BingoBoingo never got more twitter mentions than when trolling after Mizzou beat Kansas in Baseketballs
BingoBoingo: Land that flat, covered in carbohydrates was made to host a great fire for the glory of Kismet
BingoBoingo offer that yes, Kismet is supposed to be the white handmaiden of Satan keeping true Africa down, but Whitey is violent to no one else like his is to his fellow white man
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell shinohai weren't you going to submit a qntra???
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell Belxjander Pls fix your connection for the love of fuck
gribble: The operation succeeded.
wilbns: it is also challenging the fear of god society and some religious institutions instill in people in the area. originally from arkansas and lived there 22 years, experienced first-hand. was sent to religious camp in branson 7 years in a row. bizarre at times. btw, no offense to anyone in here's religious beliefs, none of my business. just putting forth an
wilbns: observation and personal experience.
BingoBoingo: wilbns: Thing is... While there are a lot of goups in that area which engage in such extreme sectarianism... Some on the girls are hot and the region is vulnerable to conquest by actual people.
BingoBoingo: Also no XT blocks mined yet...
wilbns: hah facepalm
BingoBoingo: wilbns: The big thing is such sectarians are more competitive with other similar factions than they are with any outsider groups.
mircea_popescu: wilbns i think if anyone in here's religious beliefs managed to survive in here for this long they'll be fine.
wilbns: BingoBoingo, yes, noticed that too - until someone from another religion flies a plane into a building.
wilbns: mircea_popescu: ok
BingoBoingo: wilbns: Like Joe Stack?
BingoBoingo: Joe Stack seems under appreciated in Dex-Kensaw
BingoBoingo: Given local political rhetoric
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18660 @ 0.00072755 = 13.5761 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: bried survey of dex-kensaw also suggests many local with farms due to the substantial median size of holding possess "air tractor" which could be loaded with kerosene instead of monsanto for Joe Stack++
BingoBoingo: *brief
BingoBoingo: But perhaps General Quantrill should have burned Little Rock as he did Lawrence Levo-Kensaw
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4440 @ 0.00072755 = 3.2303 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Bread Tripe!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00074027 = 6.2923 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19265 @ 0.00072892 = 14.0426 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27385 @ 0.00071888 = 19.6865 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: hey, which anglo nut made a 50 copy edition of his crappy poetry and jacked off on the lot ? was it burroughs ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00074111 = 20.6029 BTC [+] {3}
scoopbot_revived: Fierro, or - Argentina, that very comic country. http://trilema.com/2015/fierro-or-argentina-that-very-comic-country/
ag3nt_zer0: nothing quite like curling up with a nice bowl of fresh buttery popcorn, a blankey, and I Am Cait Ep. 3... should be a community event though, like a trip to the traveling wagon freak show - alas, my fellow americans seemed to have lost their ability to be astonished along with their sense of humor... I happily gaze at the four horsethingys (or is it taped?) baphomet myself...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3620 @ 0.00073753 = 2.6699 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20875 @ 0.00073744 = 15.3941 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241811 << somethinglikethat ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 03:10:43; BingoBoingo: Given 2015 so far Hearnia must have planned to actually release XTCoin the first weekend of September. He ended up jumping the gun because USG pinoy spamzors. We won.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241810 << in the sense you're originally from ru, i gather. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 03:10:37; asciilifeform: mats is originally from cn ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241816 << vice-versa, actually. the online fiat is dead, but its value as irl tokens remains. dollars are useful exactly like monopoly money and casino chips are useful, ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 03:11:33; wilbns: it seems fiat currencies will continue to exist for many generations to come, perhaps actual paper form will deminish, but an electronic register or display of some number of dollars for whoever the viewer is, will carry with it some semblance of wealth
mircea_popescu: and it's how they'll remain in use.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3604 @ 0.00073753 = 2.6581 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23550 @ 0.00073044 = 17.2019 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18450 @ 0.00072295 = 13.3384 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: speaking of btc bidniss, http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xhCRGRaPpVY/S7YyJDsOdhI/AAAAAAAABkE/f49XNMLuUno/s1600/milporongas+1+en+b.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PwNjW1 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23433 @ 0.00071954 = 16.861 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00071569 = 13.2403 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6268 @ 0.00070343 = 4.4091 BTC [-] {4}
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-08-2015#1241089 good luck ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-08-2015 20:50:22; BingoBoingo: In other news one interview for one job today seemed to go meh, the other job's interview seemed to go well. Hoping I can get that regular fiat income to start standing up srs noedz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00069854 = 10.3035 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00072009 = 2.8444 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15709 @ 0.00071166 = 11.1795 BTC [-]
punkman: http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/08/watch-colorblind-man-see-color-for-the-first-time-with-enchroma-glasses
assbot: Watch: Colorblind Man Sees Colors of a Sunset for the First Time | Complex UK ... ( http://bit.ly/1E2ByVM )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.0007278 = 16.5211 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_28654978/california-plans-taking-farms-massive-water-tunnels
assbot: Records: California plans taking land for huge water tunnels - San Jose Mercury News ... ( http://bit.ly/1E2CbyK )
punkman: "Under the plan, landowners would have 30 days to consider and negotiate a one-time state offer, while officials simultaneously prepare to take the land by forced sale if owners declined to sell. "Negotiations to continue in parallel with eminent domain proceedings," the plan notes."
mircea_popescu: no really alternative to that.
mircea_popescu: "you can either sell it at prevailing market values, or we'll take it at prevailing market values".
punkman: and nobody will use all those spiffy guns they like to polish and fondle
mircea_popescu: you know, opposing eminent domain for stuff like this is a little nutty.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44100 @ 0.00073619 = 32.466 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: what, train's gonna go around old man joe's property forever more because 180 years ago there lived a curmudgeon ?
mircea_popescu: i mean, it's one thing when they were simply stealing property to give to others who they figured "would pay more tax". that's fungible. but this isn't - train gotta go straight.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-08-2015#1241289 <<< numbers going up doesn't mean too much, it's like kids who run away from home in the afternoon but are back by dinner time ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-08-2015 21:59:27; wyrdmantis: http://xtnodes.com/ <--- a fucking war starting over?
punkman: this is not a train though
chetty: well knowing cali they are probably picking routes thru the best crop land, and offering a penny an acre
punkman: "Say what you will about the internet in 2015 but at least it helped everyone realize that everything we think and feel is wrong and dumb" https://twitter.com/paleofuture/status/633500936208449536
chetty: or, haha, the routes go thru the 'red' areas on the map
mircea_popescu: punkman water pipe ? how not ?
mircea_popescu: "everyone" is never realising that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20726 @ 0.00073753 = 15.286 BTC [+]
punkman: so just let them destroy productive farms and dry out the delta, so they can water some piece of desert down south?
mircea_popescu: chetty actually there have been "unjust enrichment" suits against states/townships on stuff like that.
mircea_popescu: punkman that's an entirely different argument tho. i have nfi what they're doing / dun care so much, but anyway. the fiat consensus is and has been, for the past ~800 years, that you can't oppose land ownership to road development.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-08-2015#1241426 <<< maybe this is discussed later on in the logs, but i read this on cointelegraph, not virtual mining news - http://cointelegraph.com/news/115136/nick-szabo-block-size-increase-a-huge-security-risk ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 17-08-2015 23:41:30; pete_dushenski: 'virtual mining' blog. same kids who pitted me against roger ver a week or two back.
assbot: Nick Szabo: Block Size Increase a ‘Huge Security Risk’ ... ( http://bit.ly/1IZi43v )
punkman: mircea_popescu: around here they can and do oppose, but everything is lilliputian-scale compared to California
punkman: http://www.china.org.cn/business/2015-08/18/content_36336463.htm
assbot: Mystery surrounds Tianjin blasts warehouse - China.org.cn ... ( http://bit.ly/1IZj6MJ )
punkman: "According to business registration information, Ruihai's two largest shareholders are Li Liang and Shu Zheng, who hold 55 percent and 45 percent of the company's shares respectively. But as of Sunday, Li remained missing, while Shu told the media that he was only a grassroots public servant, and he lent his identity card to a friend when Ruihai was registered."
punkman: identity loan - my sides
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00073262 = 14.2861 BTC [-]
shinohai: hanbot: liked the build notes writeup. Almost made me want to install it on Ubuntu.
shinohai: almost.
mircea_popescu: lol shu got scammed.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36786 @ 0.00073755 = 27.1315 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: ahaha that pete pic! ☟︎
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMd32H5UwAA2eQK.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IZkOOa )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00072871 = 22.7358 BTC [-] {4}
shinohai: Respite from my fear of dying?
shinohai: Wow.
shinohai: *terror of dying
punkman: you'll get invited to the best parties!
shinohai: Pffft ... #bitcoin-assets *is* the best party
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29203 @ 0.00073862 = 21.5699 BTC [+] {6}
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241741 <<< fuck i hate that guy, has no shame at all ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 02:56:26; BingoBoingo: https://slimgur.com/images/2015/08/17/5bb6d7f9bba424cc18b5a09006bd0367.png
shinohai: #worldelephantday
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00072302 = 3.3259 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: andy w lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00074045 = 5.6644 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16120 @ 0.00071743 = 11.565 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00073274 = 16.1936 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00070722 = 9.5475 BTC [-] {3}
shinohai: http://thenextweb.com/opinion/2015/08/17/one-brave-woman-so-many-cowardly-racists/
assbot: Meet the woman taking on Reddit's racists ... ( http://bit.ly/1E2NSFJ )
shinohai: ^ next she should go take on 4chan racists ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00069854 = 7.8586 BTC [-]
jurov: and then on #b-a chauvinists :DDDD
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00069766 = 10.3951 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: "because it sounds like something he might have said."
mircea_popescu: no, it doesn't. it sounds about as much like voltaire as any other bit of usian drivel.
mircea_popescu: maybe they should petition voltaire's sponsors too. until he becomes the "hip", "cool" figure they want him to be or something.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28250 @ 0.00069598 = 19.6614 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: da fuck is wrong with these schmucks, anyway. "herpitty-derp, i wish to push a widely unpopular, nutty agenda. obviously the best way to do this is to ask people interested in selling more to side with me. because logically if those racist white supremacists actually boycott walmart until it puts the lot of us in a concentration camp, walmart totally won't. because hurr."
punkman: "if the spend amount has a lot of trailing zeros, eg, 2.34000000 BTC, then have change outputs that also have the same amount of trailing zeros. Otherwise, it's obvious which one is the spend." << anyone can explain this?
mircea_popescu: yeah. "don't spend integer btc"
mircea_popescu: (which is why shithead services like coinbase don't even implement the whole 8 digits. their 2010ish understanding of "de-anonymization technicues."
jurov: punkman where is that from? some idiotic service that reinvented numbers processing again?
punkman: jurov, https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/6569
assbot: Improve change amount privacy · Issue #6569 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1HTEajS )
jurov: oh i think i get it
punkman: isn't it all in integer satoshis?
punkman: I dun get it
mircea_popescu: dude. if you have a 8.5465466 input and you spend 2.34 out of it, your outputs will look like 2.34000000 anbd 6.116574567
mircea_popescu: making itobvious which is the change.
jurov: if you send payment rounded to N places, the change should be also rounded to N places (and rest to fees, presumably)
mircea_popescu: ^
punkman: https://i.imgur.com/7YyVT7J.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HTECPb )
kakobrekla: eh
punkman: http://chrisbalay.com/Jokes/graphics/orabanms.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HTEK13 )
kakobrekla: its not like you cant split that full int further down yourself.
kakobrekla presumes people here do their own ass wiping
punkman: nope
kakobrekla: hammer is retarded only if you hit yourself on the head. must use nails.
punkman: hammer can't be retarded
punkman: there is this of course http://blog.codinghorror.com/content/images/uploads/2012/06/6a0120a85dcdae970b017742d249d5970d-800wi.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HTF0x7 )
kakobrekla: there you go
punkman: ;;later tell BingoBoingo https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/46/73/fd/4673fdf9d7821422efbec22771a25c68.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HTFaVe )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
kakobrekla: anyway, a tool can be retarded, its the very definition of it ; "you are a such a tool". see? ☟︎
chetty: isn't a tool something that is used? So its the user that would be retarded, no?
jurov: i think it was meant that way, "someone is using you".. which is something else than "you're retard"
jurov: but hey this is internet, we need no fkn nuances :)
kakobrekla: chetty no matter WHO uses windows ...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16204 @ 0.00069383 = 11.2428 BTC [-]
jurov: you know it's not true
kakobrekla: hm?
jurov: many ppl using windows are not retards, just completely unaware there's a better way to use a computer ☟︎
kakobrekla: not at all what im saying but anyway
kakobrekla: if ascii logs on to win machine, win machine still sucks!
jurov: and what were you saying?
kakobrekla: that.
chetty: haha, I suppose there are tools with no redeeming value
shinohai: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2015/08/18/8chan-back-after-google-banned-entire-domain-for-child-abuse-imagery/
assbot: 8chan back after Google ban of domain for child abuse imagery | Naked Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1HTG6sE )
funkenstein_: fight the symptoms, not the disease
funkenstein_: a lot of old cars overheat, they should make a law against temperature sensors which display in the dashboard
funkenstein_: kill the messenger. new technology, same broken psychology
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43400 @ 0.00071463 = 31.0149 BTC [+] {3}
funkenstein_: "As -The Virginian- established the cowboy in our literary culture, so did Hernandez' -Martin Fierro- become the archetype of the gaucho, the independent man of the pampas.
funkenstein_: Fiercely individual, distrustful of the corruption of the cities and the law, following his own code of honor, he is in the great tradition of the romantic figure"
funkenstein_: Time to finally crack this thing open :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.00073639 = 29.3083 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44050 @ 0.00074025 = 32.608 BTC [+] {4}
shinohai: http://redd.it/3hde8z
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29800 @ 0.00071912 = 21.4298 BTC [-]
punkman: shinohai: lol'd at the televangelists asking for donations to buy a jet
shinohai: xD
punkman: or that guy saying donate $1000 and god will wipe out your credit card debt
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00074045 = 9.5518 BTC [+]
shinohai: This drama: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3201418/Jilted-woman-gets-revenge-cheating-boyfriend-setting-crotch-fire-s-sleeping.html ☟︎
assbot: Jilted woman gets revenge on cheating boyfriend by setting his crotch on fire | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1hKrFC8 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11301 @ 0.00071855 = 8.1203 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00071502 = 13.5139 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26950 @ 0.00073296 = 19.7533 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: https://www.nsa.gov/ia/programs/suiteb_cryptography/index.shtml
assbot: NSA Suite B Cryptography - NSA/CSS ... ( http://bit.ly/1DW1D90 )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: to the logz! >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1239085 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-08-2015 21:29:04; shinohai: https://www.nsa.gov/ia/programs/suiteb_cryptography/index.shtml
BingoBoingo: Ah, apologies
shinohai: >.>
shinohai: BingoBoingo: are those bsd instructions of yours still valid ?
BingoBoingo: which ones
BingoBoingo: They aren't complete, because I accidentalied a lot of it ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3hfwa3/how_to_send_email_as_satoshivistomailcom << lulzy
assbot: How to send email as satoshi@vistomail.com : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1LiObPh )
asciilifeform: (spoiler: doesn't work)
asciilifeform: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/coinwallet-plans-bitcoin-dust-attack-september-create-30-day-transaction-backlog-1515981 << also lulzy
assbot: CoinWallet says Bitcoin stress test in September will create 30-day backlog ... ( http://bit.ly/1LiOfhZ )
asciilifeform: '"We feel that our tests might prove to be the catalyst that propels the core devs and miners to implement the required hard fork that is desperately needed," Coinwallet told BitBeat.'
punkman: "The previous CoinWallet test only achieved about 15% of its output because its servers crashed." ☟︎
punkman: https://coinwallet.co/en/currencies
assbot: Coinwallet.co - Supported Currencies & Fees ... ( http://bit.ly/1LhtS1G )
punkman: they take 0.5% fee per tx, lel
funkenstein_: So if I hit you, and you don't fall down, that means you aren't very tough.
asciilifeform: nah but you 'get points for trying' if you break your fists. somehow. in the bizarre usg twerp view of the world. ☟︎
funkenstein_: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00073296 = 3.9946 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: peer dump http://dpaste.com/1JDV6EF.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lhvith )
BingoBoingo: Not connected to a single XT node at the moment
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00073615 = 7.0302 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/08/no-xtcoin-support-committed-to-the-blockchain-yet/#comment-42937
assbot: No XTCoin Support Committed to the Blockchain Yet | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LiR5n1 )
Naphex: https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/?q=Amazon.com,%20Inc.
assbot: Network Snapshot - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1LhwQmU )
Naphex: BingoBoingo: amazon seems to be supporting it hard lol ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Naphex: You know the pseudonode thing runs well in an AWS micro
Naphex: BingoBoingo: hehe as if it isn't obvious enough ~240 nodes same time deployment since 17 aug
BingoBoingo: Of course
Naphex: 400ms latency
Naphex: what a joke
BingoBoingo: Serioulsy I can't even
BingoBoingo: Might as well start running pseudo nodes over a Nigerian satellite connection
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 166821 @ 0.00069397 = 115.7688 BTC [-] {7}
Naphex: well i guess it's time to ip block all XT nodes
Naphex: take that hearn, ha! ;]
BingoBoingo: Or the ones on the AWS ip space ☟︎
Naphex: BingoBoingo: that's pretty much all of them https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/?q=70010
assbot: Network Snapshot - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1LiUSkp )
BingoBoingo: Seems rather simple then
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5153 @ 0.00071577 = 3.6884 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241990 << twas not discussed because i at least was not aware of this. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 08:41:32; cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-08-2015#1241426 <<< maybe this is discussed later on in the logs, but i read this on cointelegraph, not virtual mining news - http://cointelegraph.com/news/115136/nick-szabo-block-size-increase-a-huge-security-risk
pete_dushenski: 'virtual mining news' doesn't look like anything other than a scam, and it turns out it is !
pete_dushenski: well then, tip o' the cap to joseph young, the real author
pete_dushenski: though why the piece of shit cointelegraph wordpress implementation never sent me a pingback, while 'virtual mining' did, is another story
pete_dushenski: yet also the reason for the confusion.
pete_dushenski: oh internet, will i ever understand you ?
pete_dushenski: speaking of which...
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/08/18/asking-your-friend-to-bang-your-prospective-wife-and-other-silly-ideas/ ☟︎
assbot: Asking your friend to bang your prospective wife, and other silly ideas. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1EAh2GW )
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell williamdunne ^ this was posted last night, and scoopbot_revived didn't see it.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242003 << someone was quick on their feet. i had this up as a header for maaaybe a few days. really more like a day or two. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 09:01:50; mircea_popescu: ahaha that pete pic!
pete_dushenski: cazalla: but good work on finding that original article !
pete_dushenski: now i know where the banana troll is from.
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/#comment-26731 << said banana
assbot: How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain’t Gonna Increase Any Time Soon | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1EAhvc8 )
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241734 << yeah, employed by people like me to do various tasks in the world of Eulora, because that's what has a future; not "social media" ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 02:55:17; wilbns: mats: people will be employed to execute roles in cyberspace. telecommuting and working from home is the first step.
pete_dushenski: lol i kinda like imagining danielpbarron with an army of click slaves.
pete_dushenski: *mush heathens MUSH*
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: you ever read "Ready Player 1"? Eulora will probably be that.
pete_dushenski: "Gavin has done more for bitcoin in a few years than you could do in a life time. 2003 128mb in my phone, 2006 1Gb on my phone. 2010 32gb on my phone, 2015, 64 gb on my phone. And your telling me raising the block size limit from 1 to 20 mb is an issue?" ☟︎
pete_dushenski: usgavin is a flash memory developer now !
pete_dushenski: ^from comments on ~original~ cointelegraph pete v. ver article
chetty: isnt bigger always better? /kidding
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14794 @ 0.00069859 = 10.3349 BTC [-] {3}
pete_dushenski: chetty: domains, my dear, only in certain domains
punkman: http://mainframesproject.tumblr.com/
assbot: Internet Mainframes Project ... ( http://bit.ly/1NhhulK )
lobbes: ;;later tell asciilifeform regarding lobbesbot; I am going to try 'upgrading' my bot to a more recent fork. According to #supybot, there was a rewrite of the RSS plugin that *should* address that issue of ratcheting back
gribble: The operation succeeded.
punkman: http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4683
assbot: In Realtime: Saving 25,000 Manuals « ASCII by Jason Scott ... ( http://bit.ly/1EAoSjX )
punkman: lobbes, are you using limnoria?
lobbes: nope, still using supybot ;/
lobbes: going to try and move to limnoria, maybe tonight
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64250 @ 0.00069231 = 44.4809 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00074045 = 11.1808 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30797 @ 0.00074045 = 22.8036 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: !up ascii_field
pete_dushenski: let's try out this orderbook dealio
pete_dushenski: ;;sell 1 Apple Cinema Display 30" at "450 / {bitstamplast}" BTC. Aluminum (A1083) M9179LL/A, 2560x1600, dual-link DVI, dual-firewire, dual-usb ports, power supply, power cable, mint condition. Buyer pays shipping from Canada.
gribble: Error: 'Cinema' is not a valid price input.
pete_dushenski: mk.
pete_dushenski goes to derp with gribble in private
pete_dushenski: https://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=22434
assbot: #bitcoin-otc order id 22434 ... ( http://bit.ly/1JfghEn )
pete_dushenski: 'tevye' now at 343,600
pete_dushenski: "if you call the library's IOServiceOpen function with an invalid owningTask parameter, a kernel-level IOUserClient will be passed a NULL pointer for the calling task. This pointer makes its way through more of the OS and is used to locate a variable in memory where a bit is set. By controlling the page of memory at address zero, an attacker can direct where these bits are set, and thus manipulate the kernel's m
pete_dushenski: emory, and eventually seize control of execution with full kernel-level privileges." << affecting mac osx 10.9 and 10.10
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00073255 = 8.3511 BTC [-]
mats: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/18/us/politics/courts-free-speech-expansion-has-far-reaching-consequences.html
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1E0YODY )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16608 @ 0.00074045 = 12.2974 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8261 @ 0.00074188 = 6.1287 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2015/aug/14/china-deserted-amusement-parks-stefano-cerio << china in the "off season"
assbot: China's deserted amusement parks – in pictures | Art and design | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1E10361 )
punkman: http://www.economist.com/news/china/21661053-new-study-suggests-air-pollution-even-worse-thought-mapping-invisible-scourge
assbot: Explicit cookie consent | The Economist ... ( http://bit.ly/1J0KUjV )
punkman: loltitle
btcdrak: 30day backlog "stress test" on the way http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/coinwallet-plans-bitcoin-dust-attack-september-create-30-day-transaction-backlog-1515981
assbot: CoinWallet says Bitcoin stress test in September will create 30-day backlog ... ( http://bit.ly/1LiOfhZ )
pete_dushenski: btcdrak: tis in the logs
pete_dushenski: punkman: lulz. also : perri-air !
punkman: assbot should reply "ooooooold" when that happens
pete_dushenski: !s perri-air
assbot: 2 results for 'perri-air' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=perri-air
punkman: pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyrFWbGiGOc
assbot: "Share The Air" Presentation - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1J0LspT )
pete_dushenski: jesus christ on a cross that girl is, what, 15 going on 5
kakobrekla: stress network meh, thanks for derping in the history of everything forever and no way they heard of testnet. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: "like, like, negative energy, like, like, scribble doodle, like, like, air."
pete_dushenski: testnut.
punkman: girl's an actress, she was pretty good if you ask me
pete_dushenski: pretty good at what ?
punkman: at the acting
pete_dushenski: girl's a comedian !
kakobrekla: anyway, from 'coinwallet's behavior we can conclude that tx fees are waaaaay to low on 'main'net.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: kakobrekla: no shit!
pete_dushenski: how many users at coinwallet ? 100 ?
ascii_field: then again, ~threatening~ to spam is... free
trinque: bwahaha I just went on a tirade in #gentoo-hardened about "30-day backlog"
kakobrekla: really it prolly should be more expensive than _ANY_ other way of paying. ☟︎
trinque finishes his coffee
ascii_field: kakobrekla: idk, dropping bullion from a nuke bomber with fighter escort, flying through five usg vassal states, probably ought to cost more
chetty: <ascii_field> kakobrekla: idk, dropping bullion from a nuke bomber with fighter escort, flying through five usg vassal states, probably ought to cost more// isnt that the same thing?
trinque: I thought it was a nuclear blimp
ascii_field: dirigible, damnit
trinque: haha my mistake
punkman: https://scalingbitcoin.org/montreal2015/
assbot: Scaling Bitcoin Workshop ... ( http://bit.ly/1J0P5Mw )
pete_dushenski: !s robert tilton
assbot: 0 results for 'robert tilton' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=robert+tilton
pete_dushenski: robert tilton really is doing "god's work". dude scammed john oliver out of $319 over a period of 7 months. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: of course, this was just oliver doing "research" but still lulzy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1xJAVZxXg
assbot: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Televangelists (HBO) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1J0QiU9 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00073172 = 8.3782 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20839 @ 0.00073172 = 15.2483 BTC [-]
punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CUnwl3QnjA
assbot: Chinese Man Live feat. Tumi - Get Up (Live Content) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1J0XK1x )
punkman: get up, get out, you lazy lout // get into your working clothes // up to your knees in oil and grease // and a grindstone to your nose
punkman: (and the original http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/folk-song-lyrics/Lazy_Lout.htm )
assbot: Folk & Traditional Song Lyrics - Lazy Lout ... ( http://bit.ly/1J0Y1S5 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47460 @ 0.00073188 = 34.735 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: in the spirit of punkmans', http://33.media.tumblr.com/88a6aa4de7e4fdb7df6b8679ec5768de/tumblr_nbwyl50pxz1tas0xfo1_400.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1J0YTWR )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00073278 = 10.7719 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lmao all the fucktarded jokes. "who makes the byline of a crypto book start with the workd unlocking?" "o'reilly executives"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3394 @ 0.00072396 = 2.4571 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: recently, for lulz, i collected warez scans of every published book i could find with 'bitcoin' in the title
ascii_field: the least retarded was the one by wiley financial press
mircea_popescu: aha!
ascii_field: (it was still pretty heavy on the retardation, but not an outright maculature)
mircea_popescu: i heard the same thing.
ascii_field: contained, for instance, a mostly-accurate description of blockchain mechanics
ascii_field: (but equally long bloviations re: crackpot altcoins)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242062 << you are such a tool means that you don't act of your own retardation. this is the worst insult known to usian. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 11:41:25; kakobrekla: anyway, a tool can be retarded, its the very definition of it ; "you are a such a tool". see?
mircea_popescu: better, you see, eat soap wrapped in my own country's flag than cheese in a plain white rapper.
ascii_field: p4tr10t!!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242070 << yeah, and many people derping around "pua" conferences aren't retarded, just unaware there's better ways to relate to women. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 11:47:11; jurov: many ppl using windows are not retards, just completely unaware there's a better way to use a computer
mircea_popescu: this'd be the definition of retarded neh ?
mike_c: "However, it will make it prohibitively expensive," << a quarter of a penny is prohibitively expensive?
mircea_popescu: well... the government of the us is paying them to derp on reddit. why is the government of bitcoin not paying them to use bitcoin ?
ascii_field: mike_c: for 'beoble', and for sp4mz0rz who want to take shits of infinite tonnage into our collective mouths for free - yes.
punkman: mike_c, well if you only have 2 pennies
trinque does his best anal-child squeal of frustration for mike_c
mircea_popescu: clearly bitcoin government is bad and they should hold a vote.
mircea_popescu: there's all this money here. let's democratic it.
mircea_popescu: "oh but mp, the money got here specifically because undemocratic"
mike_c: punkman: hehe, yeah. I will cry for their inability to push their dust around.
mircea_popescu: "yeah... like everywhere else ? the us got rich by being a republic, not by being a democracy. the soviets got rich under tyranny and then the demobureau fucked it up"
mircea_popescu: anyway, to the expensive topic : it is an inconvenient but nevertheless incontrovertible fact that the price point for bitcoin tx is VASTLY above the pricepoint for "visa tx" or "bank tx".
mike_c: "The fact that the XT fork hasn't occurred yet is ridiculous," CoinWallet said. << I do so love the tears of rage and frustration.
mircea_popescu: the reason is that bitcoin tx offers some specific services neither visa nor wire offer.
mircea_popescu: so, no, the price of steak is not going to be considered by comparison to "price of food" defined as "mcshitty menu".
mircea_popescu: because steak isn't that. and so... $5k a transaction is no big deal. if you don't care to have your shit verified by the entire world, go send a wire, at $500 or w/e it will be by then
ascii_field: 500%
ascii_field: (laugh, but cost for smallish wires to, e.g., ru from usa, is typically 100%)
punkman: I'll just send you the priv keys, "you move it"
mircea_popescu: nah, see, it'll still be dust, 0.001 btc or w/e.
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242269 ofc, since we are innately biologically driven towards computers, like we are to women ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 18:29:04; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242070 << yeah, and many people derping around "pua" conferences aren't retarded, just unaware there's better ways to relate to women.
mircea_popescu: most of the regularization of the tx price of bitcoin will be done by usd being forced to devaluate in comparison
mircea_popescu: not by straight and nominal price increase.
mircea_popescu: jurov yes, we are.
mircea_popescu: male curiosity is exactly equal to male sex drive.
punkman: well I'd certainly not pay 0.5btc to move 2btc
mircea_popescu: which is why so many dudes on computers.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00072369 = 13.0626 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: punkman there are good (and mathematical provable) reasons for which tx fees will never in average exceed ~0.001
btcdrak: mircea_popescu do you know the guys at quedex.net?
mircea_popescu: !s quedex
assbot: 7 results for 'quedex' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=quedex
jurov: and why all people we hold in high esteem, know how to use women right.. right?
mircea_popescu: iirc some guy here was doing some pro bono work for the,
btcdrak: I'm on a google hangout with them right now, just checking.
mircea_popescu: jurov "use" is not really the word there, and plenty of people we did or do hold in high esteem don't know how to use computers, or got a war wound.
mircea_popescu: you can't argue anecdote to statistics.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00071741 = 6.098 BTC [-]
jurov: and statistics are? all people with iq > 120 use lisp?
mircea_popescu: "this guy looks like his next door neighbour rather than his father ergo inheritance is wrong"
jurov: and live in happy marriage or polyamory or whatever?
ascii_field: some people use pointed stick and live in an igloo.
mircea_popescu: no. the statistics are that young males spend more time with computers than with women.
ascii_field: with walrus.
jurov: and how from tit all follows that windows users ===== derps?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: computers are less annoying than most women these men would say.
kakobrekla: how do you know the sex of my machine?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla sex dun matter. the entire thing was "male curiosity is the same thing that makes the male sex drive".
danielpbarron gives his computers girl names
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't go there, im just speaking to the rthing i spoke to ok ?
mircea_popescu: this "not retarded just unaware" is nonsense. that they're unaware is the proof of their retardation.
mircea_popescu: now, maybe they are aware and use windows for impenetrable reasons, to which i don't got much to say.
ascii_field: big fat difference 'being aware' makes.
mircea_popescu: does.
ascii_field: how?
mircea_popescu: lemme show you. suppose you go by a diner in wash, and inside see the most beautiful girl ever
mircea_popescu: like, conceivable. you wipe away tears of mental contradiction because you didn't think this could exist.
mircea_popescu: so, on an impulse, uncharacteristically, you go in. and walk up to her
mircea_popescu: and say hi!
mircea_popescu: anmd she looks at you and totally loses it.
mircea_popescu: she like jumps all over you and is like "omg you know how long i've been waitinfg for you my love!?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: so you kiss at which point a dude opens the door, pulls out a shotgun and blows your brains away.
mircea_popescu: the last thing you hear is "fucking shit, excuse me, miss. i thought he was someone else."
ascii_field: ah finally back to real world!
trinque: lol
mircea_popescu: and this is not nearly as contrived as it may seem. the one wish that will come up if you actually are a necromancer and can speak with the dead
mircea_popescu: (like yours truly)
mircea_popescu: in all the cases of murdered wise men, is "i wish they had first bothered to know who the fuck i was".
ascii_field: the canonical: 'one day, a bullet hit stierlitz in the head. "a hollow-point, must be!", thought stierlitz, scatter-brained' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: lol
trinque: danielpbarron: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/firefly/images/5/5a/Vera_weapon_Jayne_OMR.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070214225453
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1EAFb0g )
mircea_popescu: that looks just like an angry mike_c
mircea_popescu: don't shoot mikey, we're not disparaging windows. just the users. k ?
mike_c: hehehe
mircea_popescu: "AND THIS IS FOR THE PAPERCLIP!!!1"
trinque: hahahha
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242093 << for the record, "revenge" "cxheated" etc is bullshit. female monkeys genitally injure beta males. usually by biting. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 13:32:33; shinohai: This drama: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3201418/Jilted-woman-gets-revenge-cheating-boyfriend-setting-crotch-fire-s-sleeping.html
mircea_popescu: same thing.
mircea_popescu: it's not revenge and it's not cheating, it's "you're too shitty to reproduce". a sensor they do have in their brain, and which is being so deeply downregulated to live in teh civilised world, it starts firing randomly.
ascii_field: !b 4 ✂︎
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mircea_popescu: notably, no female monkey that's been raped, even if regularly and consistently, ever attacks the rapist.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, she WILL disable dribbly betas that make half-assed attempts which they manage to fend off.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242106 << prolly a great thing to fix huh. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 14:22:09; BingoBoingo: They aren't complete, because I accidentalied a lot of it
mircea_popescu: i suppose you could turn this into a "you're not supposed to be a man, i picked you because you're shit, to make you my live toy. if you contradict this i'll fucking kill you" which could then be summarized as "jilted" and "revenge". but if THAT is what the authors are thinking when using those words, they're worse than the KKK over there.
trinque: you know, a former girlfriend I said goodbye to this weekend told me that the problem with being with me was that she lost the desire to seek other sexual partners when fucking me (this apparently being psychologically important to her for some reason related to shopping)
mircea_popescu: an' should really be ashamed of themselves.
trinque: I just shook my head, said "jesush christ you're broken" and laughed
mircea_popescu: trinque dun judge womenz by what they say to you at times like that.
trinque: hmm, maybe so
trinque: could've just been what you say to him when leaving
mircea_popescu: i mean if she said that she couldn't possibly have been unfaithful yes ?
mircea_popescu: this is how twu wuv sounds, right ?
trinque: yeah not once, though broke it off with me because she thought this quaint? or who knows what
trinque: this was from years ago
trinque: my reaction was "if this is your natural reaction to me, what the fuck's wrong with it?"
shinohai: I also read a story of Yazidi women who have formed a paramilitary force to kill their rapists (ISIS)
mircea_popescu: which is why /me recommends structured relations. takes all this dubious derpage out of the thing.
mircea_popescu: theres a reason when people go dancing they agree aforehand on WHAT dance will they dance
mircea_popescu: rather than you know, find themselves there and try to guess as they go alon
trinque: right, were I to just take charge and say "well you belong to me then, and that's that" she'd react with all the socialist bullshit in her head
mircea_popescu: shinohai right, and this exists not as a tool to keep in line the beta boys of isis, but as a means for isis to lose its fucking leadership.
mircea_popescu: trinque so ?
mircea_popescu: always give the other the chance to actually play his hand, yes ?
mircea_popescu: you thinking what they'd do is not good enough.
trinque: tbh it is in listening to you describe relationships that I've realized I have several lovers I have not tended to *at all*
trinque: that is, to be very honest.
trinque: but anyhow, I'm leaving this state and she's voting for hillary or something
mircea_popescu: lol so what if she is.
mircea_popescu: lemme ask you this. if you were the well bearded patriarch of a most devouted harem
mircea_popescu: and i mean... girls who'd lovingly, readily lick your asshole if you don't feel like using toilet paper, devoted.
mircea_popescu: would you tell them who to vote for ?
shinohai: vote for me :D
mircea_popescu: fnargl, you know ? big deal.
mircea_popescu: one of the most useful conceptual tools at your disposal. "am i doing this because i'm not sure i'm the king-emperor, or because it's what the king-emperor does ?"
trinque: no, never been my style to try to control those things
trinque: you're right
punkman: why would you let them vote?
mircea_popescu: that question divides the abstract world in two. not even that one or the other of the two kinds is better. merely the distinction is useful in and of itself.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: let's also ask which mcdonalds item they will be ordered to eat?
mircea_popescu: punkman i don't care either way, they can vote if they want to, what.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34850 @ 0.00071112 = 24.7825 BTC [-] {3}
trinque: now, "read this book"
mircea_popescu: ascii_field whay ?
trinque: yeah I've said things like that, and not asked whether
trinque: and this has usually had a wonderful result
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: re: 'who to vote'
trinque: girl in question went from being a retail something to a project manager at a software company
mircea_popescu: ascii_field if you enforce looks and a fuckable muscle tone, they drop the mcd on their own.
ascii_field: mega-unsurprise
ascii_field: was answering the 'who would you order them to vote for'
mircea_popescu: trinque see ? that's your spv. "you're my thing, and if you shut up and suck it you may one day be smart enough to do all the things you don't like toi think about now because you're unsure"
mircea_popescu: ah ah ha
phf: trinque: in my experience you want to bring that socialist stuff to the surface asap, and then nip it in the bud, or end the whole thing if failed. eventually the unexplored is going to be what creates strife
mircea_popescu: i can undersign.
trinque: yeah, of course this was a goodbye, so I have made an assessment of whether the tumor's extractable
trinque: it's sort of a diseased version of something normal, I observe
punkman: mircea_popescu: they drop the mcd on their own. << yeah that's what I was shooting for, why would a good slavegirl want to vote in derplections?
trinque: she saw herself developing into a woman due to my books and fucking, and couldn't deal with that
mircea_popescu: godel sez : you never know, punkman.
trinque: neotony, it's a thing, I've learned :p
trinque: *neoteny
mircea_popescu: trinque dun hurt telling these things out plain, in general.
trinque: sure, told her all of that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00072074 = 14.1625 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: but i did order mcdonalds icecream cones be purchased and sampled, because wtf already, when i came here first i was shocked at how good the icecream was. then i found a place which shocked me again, at how good their icecreeam was over argentine icecream. and recentyly found a second, which YET AGAIN
shinohai: dun hurt to always marry a girl at the top of her blowjob game, either.
mircea_popescu: shinohai ie a 50yo retired whore ?
trinque: lol
shinohai: I liek Milfs
mircea_popescu: but if she's a milf she has kids, which makes her cocksucking dedication questionable at best.
shinohai: truth
mircea_popescu: "nah man, she does this trick where she grabls her knees and spits in her own snatch afterwards, i've never seen anything like it."
trinque: the kind of woman you can curl up with a book in
shinohai: https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/633714822580994048 <<<lel
trinque has begun to not care, open to reasons why he should
trinque: how's this not just any other altcoin?
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/the-news-in-brief-hearn-is-a-shitstain-mp-is-right-fuck-reddit-love-satoshi/#comment-115061 << kinda nonplussed this didn't deliver yet.
assbot: The news, in brief : "Hearn is a shitstain, MP is right, fuck reddit. Love, Satoshi" on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Eyf7mo )
mircea_popescu: cmon, shitstains. can we get it in writing ? hm ?
mircea_popescu: lawl.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242113 << lmao. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 14:27:14; punkman: "The previous CoinWallet test only achieved about 15% of its output because its servers crashed."
mircea_popescu: "we're gonna be important!111"
mircea_popescu: i guess they did get something from the early mpoe-pr adversative marketing techniques. so in that sense less dumb than most forum derps.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242118http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242118 << quite exactly. "o hai, wer didn't accomplish anything and our servers crashed in the process. WE CAN JUGGLE!!1" ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 14:31:36; asciilifeform: nah but you 'get points for trying' if you break your fists. somehow. in the bizarre usg twerp view of the world.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242129 << the dream of cheapskate "influencers", yoiu know ? they're gonna spin up 5k amazon instances for $500, and count it as a "majority" becauyse totally, votes from a buried pogo and an aws instance with a 100 hour lifespan are EQUAL. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 14:50:30; Naphex: BingoBoingo: amazon seems to be supporting it hard lol
mircea_popescu: why is astroturfing so fundamental to usg political thought is beyond me.
mircea_popescu: why they expect it to work however...
ascii_field: 'cause vox populi, vox dei !!111!!11 (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: orly ?
mircea_popescu: and populi = aws instance ?
ascii_field: it ~always~ was
ascii_field: even before electric lamp.
ascii_field: 'i speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues!1'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242140 << thios, really. there's absolutely no reason to allow aws anywhere. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 15:09:37; BingoBoingo: Or the ones on the AWS ip space
mircea_popescu is kinda tooi lazy to dig up that article with the oglaf cartoon re the electoral debater.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41700 @ 0.00072074 = 30.0549 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242153 << i take it pete read http://trilema.com/2011/in-sprijinul-eugeniei/ ? somehow ? ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 15:38:50; pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/08/18/asking-your-friend-to-bang-your-prospective-wife-and-other-silly-ideas/
assbot: In sprijinul eugeniei on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1hL4KXw )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28650 @ 0.00070141 = 20.0954 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242168 << it is, lol. check out the idiot. 3 years, up 64x. 4 more years, up 32x. 5 more years, up 2x. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 15:46:27; pete_dushenski: "Gavin has done more for bitcoin in a few years than you could do in a life time. 2003 128mb in my phone, 2006 1Gb on my phone. 2010 32gb on my phone, 2015, 64 gb on my phone. And your telling me raising the block size limit from 1 to 20 mb is an issue?"
mircea_popescu: and this is somehow an argument in his stupid head ?
mircea_popescu: a more pointed example of how the entire thing just ground to a halt could not be devised if one tried. and yet the derp figures this bolsters his case. because he went to a school in the united states.
fluffypony: SO THEREFORE
mircea_popescu: yea. and in 2020 a phone that has 32 gb card will cost 100x what the phone with the 64 gb card cost in 2015.
ascii_field: 100,000.
mircea_popescu: nah. they're not actually useful and were made in bulk, so. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242217 << they don't want to test, thjey know it doesn't work already. they want to derp. and, for a while yet, they can, so let 'em enjoe. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 17:28:32; kakobrekla: stress network meh, thanks for derping in the history of everything forever and no way they heard of testnet.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242230 << dude gets it. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 17:35:12; kakobrekla: really it prolly should be more expensive than _ANY_ other way of paying.
mircea_popescu: "if you have any option besides paying in bitcoin, USE THAT. wtf is wrong with you anyway."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242241 << bwahaha thanks for adding the references. this is going to become VERY useful in the future. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 17:45:45; pete_dushenski: robert tilton really is doing "god's work". dude scammed john oliver out of $319 over a period of 7 months.
mircea_popescu: certainly before the 2020.
mircea_popescu: and for the record, that guardian article is a horrible hack job. it looks like someone took a camera and went to a coupla yard sales. wtf guardian, seriously ? you ever seen new jersey ?
mircea_popescu: atlantic city ?
mircea_popescu: where do you live!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00071182 = 12.9551 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242469 << not built to last. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 19:29:50; mircea_popescu: nah. they're not actually useful and were made in bulk, so.
mircea_popescu: that's what drives the price : as the stored stuff gets delivered
mircea_popescu: not for a moment was i proposing user-owned shit to make it. but there's boxes.
mircea_popescu: ytou know, like the pogos. exactly.
ascii_field: i won't be surprised if we learn that usg has purchased and burned the bulk of those.
mircea_popescu: with what money ?
mircea_popescu: nah, the water left in the pipe is left in the pipe.
mircea_popescu: the pipe's chinese mostly.
mircea_popescu: some euro/arab shipping corps.
mircea_popescu: the us dun count for shit in this story.
mircea_popescu: jus' dreamin' its dreams of "intellectual property" and whatnot
ascii_field: with a few $k srsly
ascii_field: is all it'd take.
mircea_popescu: hardly.
ascii_field: what was that warehouse total, $8k ?
ascii_field: danielpbarron ?
thestringpuller: http://trilema.com/2015/the-news-in-brief-hearn-is-a-shitstain-mp-is-right-fuck-reddit-love-satoshi/#comment-115061 << It's a shit blizzard mircea_popescu
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00071182 = 3.7015 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ascii_field here's the model i propose to you : current debit is 1mn units/day, say, call this t0. "world ends" event, t1. prices spike 40-50% and social support wanes. demand drops 80%. this is t2. production stops, and the pipeline gets diverted to storage, this is t3.
mircea_popescu: the good now moves from pipeline to sotrage pricing, and as a result it will slowly dwindle as price goes exponential and demand collapses.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9341 @ 0.0007116 = 6.6471 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so, sales of 100 units/day, at 100x what they cost a day, some point at t5.
mircea_popescu: that 1% total sale volume is the last sustainable place for it, after price increases past 100x demand collapses entirely and the good either becomes monetized or disappears outright, in the hands of collectors.
mircea_popescu: this is the star line of goods. just like normal stars.
ascii_field: pogo?!!!
ascii_field: as it is, a used car's worth of benjie buys the lot.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30400 @ 0.00071282 = 21.6697 BTC [+]
jurov: pogo is useless without hard drive, either (and no, we don't have antifuse rom)
ascii_field: jurov: no (yet) shortage of those
jurov: you remember that flood? and it was only one factory
ascii_field: aha
ascii_field: iirc it made spindle drives only
ascii_field: but yes, one burned/flooded factory can double price of $component
ascii_field: (certain items are still scarce on account of fukushima)
mircea_popescu: pogo isn't the same thing as "cellphone"
ascii_field: but all of this is re: generic technocollapse
ascii_field: i was speaking of a specific strategic good
ascii_field: that is useful pretty much only to us
mircea_popescu: jurov nah it was like 3, and in any case the weather stayed bad and 90% of production was in the same area.
mircea_popescu: but yes : goods there moved from pipeline to storage like... halfway. 1/3 of a way really
mircea_popescu: price doubled. (price doubled specifically bnecause it wasn't all the way, incidentally)
ascii_field: the other thing is that price doesn't double when those directly hit can 'borrow' using shitflation - e.g., switch to chinese electrolytic capacitors instead of fukkupied jp parts
mircea_popescu: yeah but i don't see how the smartphone made out of shit and sticks will cut it
ascii_field: ask samsung
ascii_field: they ship'em now.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally -0 this is how the russians ruined their at some point fledging industrial reputation
ascii_field: aha.
mircea_popescu: the soviets tried the inflatatron, but by making shitstick cellphgone. it blew in their face)
mircea_popescu: it's almost never a bad idea, that.
mircea_popescu: shit.
ascii_field: however it works if 'that's how world works' and the consumer frog is boiled 1) reasonably slowly 2) in unison
mircea_popescu: it's never a GOOD idea, that.
mircea_popescu: no, it does not work. it merely appears to have worked
ascii_field: 'cell phone lasts a year, dontcha know'
mircea_popescu: next thing you know, you hang.
ascii_field: wake me up when the makers of 2007-present autos hang
mircea_popescu: you and your sleep cycles.
mircea_popescu: !s wake me up when
assbot: 49 results for 'wake me up when' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=wake+me+up+when
mircea_popescu: !s ad libitum
assbot: 38 results for 'ad libitum' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ad+libitum
mircea_popescu: see ? you're 11 sleeps ahead. quit bitchin'.
ascii_field is to sleep as the archetypical sex starved 14 y.o. is to sex
mircea_popescu: "to ensure world happiness, you buy some people girlfriends and some people's girlfriends"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00069186 = 12.7302 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: oh mpoe how you toe with my heart
ascii_field: pretty much 90% of my 'rich' fantasy consists of being able to actually do my hardwired 26-hour circadian instead of pretending, badly, to do the standard 24
danielpbarron: ascii_field> danielpbarron ? << wasn't it like 20k?
mircea_popescu: im doing it lol.
jurov: so the consensus is.. i should start stocking on hdds/ssds?
ascii_field: jurov: can't hurt
mircea_popescu: the consensus is, it makes more sense to hoard NRFB smartphones than gold.
ascii_field: unless they have peculiarly short shelf lives
ascii_field: (not impossible, and i can't rule it out)
mircea_popescu: but then again gold is a very low bar. almost anything makes more sense to hoard.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
jurov: lol incidentally.. my newfound love for n900's
trinque: not dumbphone enough for me
trinque: what I really want is like a radio-passive beeper
ascii_field: trinque: those are still sold
jurov: web browser can be handy
trinque: ascii_field: I may just not know how a beeper works
danielpbarron: ascii_field> 'cell phone lasts a year, dontcha know' << i've had my iPhone 5 for 3 years now, if i'm not mistaken
ascii_field: danielpbarron: wait till the os update is mandatory
ascii_field: then - straight to dumpster
danielpbarron: i've been updating all the way
ascii_field: but i was making an abstract point
ascii_field: that scarcely anyone keeps these for longer than 2-3 yrs
mircea_popescu: very abstract indeed.
ascii_field: just like around 2007 it became ~sop~ for cars to last 5 yr instead of 15
trinque: ascii_field: now that I'm reading about it, is the passive in one-way pagers actually passive in the sense I care about?
danielpbarron: most useful feature of my iPhone is mod6's MPEx twitter bot announcing trades in real time to me wherever I go
trinque: not so much as a peep back to tower?
ascii_field: trinque: passive in the sense of not transmitting
ascii_field: at least not by design
trinque: hm
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure they still heartbeat
ascii_field: no
ascii_field: at least not classic pagers
ascii_field: that ran on 'aaa' cell for 2 weeks
mircea_popescu: is it an abstract point ?
trinque: surely this, being sane, must be on the way out
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: no, it was (and to a limited extent, still is) an actual product where i live
ascii_field: small box that only receives (somewhere in the 400 MHz band), with character display
ascii_field: ;;google pocsag
gribble: POCSAG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POCSAG>; POCSAG - Signal Identification Wiki: <http://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/POCSAG>; RTL-SDR Tutorial: POCSAG Pager Decoding - rtl-sdr.com: <http://www.rtl-sdr.com/rtl-sdr-tutorial-pocsag-pager-decoding/>
ascii_field: ^ him
mircea_popescu: aha
ascii_field: signal from the station is very strong, can be received, typically, even in a lift, or an underground station
ascii_field: which made 'beeper' popular even as mobile phone appeared
ascii_field: surgeons, i'm told, still carry classic 'beeper.'
ascii_field: 'beepers' with provisions for answering were introduced but were obsoleted by 'smartPnohe'
jurov: lizardhitler must be able to page you at any time!!!1
ascii_field: how else.
trinque: hm. now I want a pocsag usb device
ascii_field: easy
ascii_field: http://www.rtl-sdr.com/rtl-sdr-tutorial-pocsag-pager-decoding
assbot: RTL-SDR Tutorial: POCSAG Pager Decoding - rtl-sdr.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jp3o0K )
ascii_field: $15.
trinque: fun!
ascii_field: though bad link
ascii_field: asks you to use a shitblowz proggy
ascii_field: there is a proper one somewhere
mats: danielpbarron: wait what? 'MPEx1' hasn't tweeted since 2013
ascii_field: https://github.com/EliasOenal/multimon-ng
assbot: EliasOenal/multimon-ng · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jp3zsV )
trinque: general notion being that I might do some driving around with the laptop soon, see the states while it's easy, and I'd like to rely on passive tech (beeper, gps, etc) more as an exercise than because of any operational need
danielpbarron: mats, https://twitter.com/BitOTTer
assbot: BitOTTerBot (@BitOTTer) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jp3BB4 )
ascii_field: trinque: it still lives & dies by the official transmitters
ascii_field: nothing 'decentralized' about it
trinque: ascii_field: sure, of course
ascii_field: but do wake me up when somebody starts transmitting a therealbitcoin blockchain i can pick up with my rtlsdr !!
trinque: indeed
ascii_field: and when i can throw a transaction into a wireless parasite mesh
ascii_field: ^ mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: hm?
punkman: you can send tx with satphone
ascii_field: application for hypothetical device
ascii_field: punkman: satellite ~= fighter jet
ascii_field: not to be relied on for the future.
ascii_field: certainly not unless one serves usg
mircea_popescu: you mean cn.
ascii_field: or.
mircea_popescu: not even or.
ascii_field: cn, ru
punkman: and how does wireless mesh reach china?
mircea_popescu: myeah.,
ascii_field: punkman: what do i need china for
punkman: well US transactions need to leave the continent no?
ascii_field: sure
ascii_field: shortwave.
ascii_field: hell, moon bounce.
ascii_field: troposcatter.
mircea_popescu: are we doingthis again ?
ascii_field: ^ ANOTHER reason tx ~has~ to be expensive, and blocks - light.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: which this
punkman: http://kryptoradio.koodilehto.fi/
assbot: Kryptoradio by Koodilehto ... ( http://bit.ly/1J2iOTf )
ascii_field: punkman: in logs, yes
ascii_field: punkman: uses derpatroic bitcoind though
ascii_field: and therefore not of interest.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field "providing punctual technical solutions for poorly understood future situations".
mats: danielpbarron: ok cool
ascii_field: nah just doing a mircea_popescuine 'i like to think'
ascii_field: as with yesterday's block fattening thread.
mircea_popescu: so what';s the premise ? i guess i missed it.
mircea_popescu loathes to think without premise.
ascii_field: premise is that in certain zimbabwes, net access is dodgy
ascii_field: one effective answer is 'don't go there' - reasonable
mircea_popescu: see, that's the difference. i don't think we ca do a "like to think" if the premise is not an "all" or "every"
mircea_popescu: actually, i would propose that's the difference between think and wank in the space in question.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14734 @ 0.00070467 = 10.3826 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: think is "all". wank is "some". "certain" is iffy and should be resolved to either.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu designs a parachute, and reasons using 'all' and 'every' ?
ascii_field: is to deploy on every flight ?
mircea_popescu: yes. when you design "a parachute" you design it for "every".
mircea_popescu: if you do not you got a very bad result.
ascii_field: for every pull of the cord.
ascii_field: but not for every flight.
mircea_popescu: so then you say this, and your "Certain" has become an "every"
ascii_field: fine. when i pull this 'cord', we get a bitcoin node in a place where usg does not wish for there to be honest nodes.
ascii_field: that there's your 'every.'
mircea_popescu: "a" is still not every but certain :)
mircea_popescu gapes in amazement at the incredibly powerful tool he came up with over dinner conversation.
ascii_field: 'a' == every territory presently occupied by the bugmen
mircea_popescu: so any ?
ascii_field: aha.
jurov: ascii_field: if it can filter internet such, then it can do radio, too
mircea_popescu: this problem is easily resolved : there can not be an "any" node.
ascii_field: jurov: bugmen rely on radio too much, in modern times, for proper sov-style jamming
jurov: they rely on 'net, too, back since desert storm
ascii_field: own net.
jurov: that does not exist
ascii_field: sure does.
ascii_field saw it, alive.
ascii_field: they still have separate cabling and all.
ascii_field: granted, not as extensive as once before, in the old days
ascii_field: commercial links for most (but not all) long haul
phf: trinque: i have a gsm modem on home base, that saves sms to text file and generates wave files of left messages. when i travel i just periodically download that stuff, when i get internet connection. you could probably harden it in various ways to minimize your location being traced, as an exercise
kakobrekla: you download wave files ?!
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: why not make them bitmaps
ascii_field: incidentally, and not unrelated, payphones of the traditional kind where almost entirely abolished where i live
ascii_field: over past 5 or so years
ascii_field: they were a loophole in the tracking grid and had to die, yes
phf: obviously, they get lame'd
mircea_popescu: here too.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00070467 = 9.8654 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: bbbut you are starting off with text which is best, especially to download on the road
mircea_popescu: phf why not download the text ?!
phf: ~voicemail~ messages
mircea_popescu: you said sms lol
mircea_popescu: who the fuck even listens to voicemail. i never have.
mircea_popescu: if someone is dumb enough to talk to a machine they should CONTINUE.
trinque: hahaha
mircea_popescu: well ?
mircea_popescu: i'm not talking to machine talkers.
trinque: voicemail's terrible; I use email and IRC
trinque: and if something doesn't do either of those things, it gets taped into one of them, or abandoned
ascii_field: here in the stone age lands, it is generally expected of a 'serious person' to be reachable by voice phone
trinque: phf: what's this modem? is the sms aspect special, or do I just need to learn those horrible looking codes?
ascii_field: (unless you're hitler and have a secretary)
mircea_popescu: i bet you he gets the bulk of it from womenz that don't know enough contemporaneous culture to just send nudies.
trinque: lol
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: trinque: nobody cancelled hayes modem codes!!
trinque: I should autoresponder "tits or gtfo"
ascii_field: trinque: how else is the thing to let your machine know that it got a call, msg, or whatnot
phf: trinque: i parse gsm by hand, because. but there's a handful of linux packages that'll do it for you
ascii_field: or to dial it
trinque: I mean, arbitrarily any way
trinque: and someone chose *that*
trinque: for example I know of a guy that built some radio doodad that farts out s-expressions
phf: version 1 of that was written for razr, because first phone i had with a usb connector
ascii_field: btw, best gsm modem i presently know of for this application is just about everything made by 'huawei'
phf: ^
ascii_field: their usb dongles, at least the ones i tested, can even make/receive voice calls
ascii_field: without analogue wiring
ascii_field: this is almost UNKNOWN on any other vendor
ascii_field: (to date i have not been able to source any but huawei which does this)
mircea_popescu: so for my own curiosity (inspired mostly by our bitcoin experiments here) i had it tested. there's no modern browser thatr doesn't leak memory.
mircea_popescu: and we're talking kbps sort of leaks.
ascii_field: no shit
ascii_field: mega-unsurprise
ascii_field: who doesn't believe this - get thee to valgrind, and see for yourself.
trinque: the DOM is far to intermingled to ever deallocate certain things
trinque: god have I spent time in this hell
trinque: *too
mircea_popescu: yeah well...
mircea_popescu: shit dun work.
mircea_popescu: i wonder what;d happen if someone made a racist browser.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14666 @ 0.0007103 = 10.4173 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ie one that supported none of the crud.
punkman: lynx?
mircea_popescu: to begin with : did not allow https.
mircea_popescu: nah, graphical.
trinque: sounds like some kinda CLIM thing with a socket
mircea_popescu: ^
trinque: that'd rule
phf: trinque: there's "closure"
trinque: phf: this is hypertext atop lisp in clim?
trinque: because hypertext isn't wrong, the browser is
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-08-2015#1233154 << you might find a racist here ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 05:58:00; punkman: http://browsers.evolt.org/
ascii_field believes that hypertext, at least as presently implemented 'in-band', ~is~ wrong
phf: trinque: closure is a browser, which spawned a bunch of projects, one of them is closure-html, an html parser
trinque: yeah nah, I'm talking burn it all to the ground
ascii_field: ^
trinque: represent hypertext as s-exp, write in CLIM
mircea_popescu: should be able to render webm for fuxxase
trinque: I'm sure you could do media really nicely in clim
trinque: and it would know things you could do to the media!
trinque: independent of the site author!
trinque stops himself before he dares dream
phf: https://common-lisp.net/project/closure/ for the curious
assbot: Closure Web Browser ... ( http://bit.ly/1MBpttR )
mircea_popescu: anyway : i am itching to declare extant browsers obsolete and force through a replacement.
mircea_popescu: i need this more than i need a bigger blocks hardfork
mircea_popescu: much easier task, too.
ascii_field: replacement for exactly what ?
ascii_field: 'lynx' still works
mircea_popescu: for the gfx browser.
phf: btw lynx has a pretty nasty track record of remote exploitable bus
phf: *bugs
ascii_field: phf: like just about all c proggies
phf: it's probably better then nothing, but without a foundation style audit, it's a liability
ascii_field: phf: the whole shit-orchestra, all the way down to the turtles and elephants, is a mega-liability
trinque: ascii_field believes that hypertext, at least as presently implemented 'in-band', ~is~ wrong << unless I misunderstand you, we agree
trinque: I am saying hypertext as the concept that there are relationships in written word that can be traversed is right
trinque: the browser, emphatically not
ascii_field: the essential thing is to use nothing whatsoever created by the folks who have so thoroughly disqualified themselves.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> nah, graphical. << surf ???
trinque: just another webkit wrapper
trinque: I wrote one of those me-self
phf: trinque: that's the gsm package i was thinking of http://wammu.eu/docs/manual/smsd/
assbot: SMS Daemon — Gammu 1.36.5 documentation ... ( http://bit.ly/1KuntgW )
BingoBoingo: What about Dillo, uses own engine
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14952 @ 0.00070875 = 10.5972 BTC [-]
trinque: still big wad o' c/c++
trinque: and the problem's so simple!
ascii_field: http://mpetroff.net/2015/05/amazon-dash-button-teardown << very lulzy. contains princely mircocontroller, multiple MB of eeprom, and... a microphone.
assbot: Amazon Dash Button Teardown | Matthew Petroff ... ( http://bit.ly/1MBr3f6 )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242106 << prolly a great thing to fix huh. << In practice largely supplanted by the patch on therealbitcoin list ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 14:22:09; BingoBoingo: They aren't complete, because I accidentalied a lot of it
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3638 @ 0.00070875 = 2.5784 BTC [-]
phf: oh, i missed the confusion part. the setup saves text files of sms messages and ~separately~ a folder of voicemail messages in mono mp3
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00070875 = 8.2924 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30489 @ 0.00071648 = 21.8448 BTC [+] {5}
trinque: !rated relaxedman
assbot: relaxedman is not registered in WoT.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31950 @ 0.00070467 = 22.5142 BTC [-]
trinque: !up relaxedman
trinque: !h
assbot: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
trinque: relaxedman: ^
relaxedman: on it already
trinque: !seen liquidassets
trinque: ;;seen liquidassets
gribble: liquidassets was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 6 days, 6 hours, 4 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <liquidassets> property only entered into it when I tried looking up meaning to funciary commodity. Yes, the "do you want it?" seems to be the question. Thanks MP always a pleasure
trinque: ;;seen WolfGoethe
gribble: WolfGoethe was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 weeks, 3 days, 18 hours, 20 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <WolfGoethe> some fool locking up my coins with bogus trades. what fool wants to deposit cash to the bank... at midnight???
trinque: !unrate WolfGoethe
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/b5ebb2c77036eaa7
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
trinque: !v assbot:trinque.unrate.WolfGoethe:aebf4e3a51678a9538932c577f3d025744b6d9d15447342b9cbcc4b197eae9ab
assbot: Successfully unrated WolfGoethe
trinque: ;;seen hasimir
gribble: hasimir was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 12 hours, 30 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <Hasimir> yeah, that was it (well, that and ZNC)
kakobrekla: myea, i unrated liek 100 people the other day (in both wots)
kakobrekla: anyone who i havent spoken to in a year for sure.
shinohai: http://lta.newsbtc.com/2015/08/18/la-comunidad-de-bitcoin-se-niega-a-aceptar-bitcoin-xt/ <<< ROFL
assbot: La Comunidad de Bitcoin se Niega a Aceptar Bitcoin XT - NewsBtc ... ( http://bit.ly/1HUwj5H )
trinque: yeah, doing some review
shinohai: ^ qntra got a mention ^^
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00070467 = 2.9596 BTC [-]
shinohai: !up Varia_Varietatis
trinque: I thought Varia_Varietatis was sentenced to 6mos of log-reading for losing his second key
trinque twists moustache twistily
Varia_Varietatis: trinque: true, making a new key right now but think I might need a new nickserv account?
trinque: what I'm saying is, nobody in L1 will rate you at the present time such that you can self-voice (or at least, would be wrong to do so) because you made a severe error in maintaining your keys
kakobrekla: the third of fourth?
trinque: an error which you will understand if you actually do the work and read logs
Varia_Varietatis: working on it.
Varia_Varietatis: kakobrekla: anyway I can keep this name? never used the key on the bot.
kakobrekla: well, try to register, see what it says
Varia_Varietatis: hold on, gotta reread how to do all of that out of the log.
shinohai: Varia_Varietatis = n6 ?
Varia_Varietatis: yes
shinohai: or nx
shinohai: Are you still a virgin?
Varia_Varietatis: yes
shinohai: I still can't help you.
trinque: and how old?
Varia_Varietatis: 26
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.000732 = 7.5762 BTC [+]
[\\\]: do you live on an island by yourself?
Varia_Varietatis: no, but I was a recluse for about 12 years.
Varia_Varietatis: Tell you all about it, after I work out my key / name sitaution brb
danielpbarron: !gettrust Varia_Varietatis
assbot: Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user Varia_Varietatis: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=danielpbarron&to=Varia_Varietatis | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Varia_Varietatis/
danielpbarron: you did use the key with the bot
trinque: Varia_Varietatis: you're setting yourself up to be rated negatively, here
trinque: you would be best served reading, not trying to register for the umpteenth time
Varia_Varietatis: Yea, I put a key in then lost the pass phrase. trinque true learning gpg still..
trinque: well yes, you are
trinque: but I don't hand you a gun first off when teaching you how to shoot
trinque bbl
danielpbarron: Varia_Varietatis, write down pass phrase before you type it in, try out key before you register it
jurov: you obviously need to improve your attention span, logs are useful tool
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35050 @ 0.00071385 = 25.0204 BTC [-] {4}
trinque: danielpbarron: I wouldn't give the guy one-off answers like that
Varia_Varietatis: working on testing my key now but gpg quit asking for my passphrase think i'm doing something wrong
trinque: gotta *READ*
jurov: and if there's mental disability in play oughta figure it out first
trinque: there is no substitute
trinque: and this point must be enforced by L1, imo.
danielpbarron: Varia_Varietatis, and to answer your other question, yes you will need a new nickname and nickserv registration
Varia_Varietatis: Going to do that now.
danielpbarron: i should edit the first_steps wiki page to put the log reading part at the top of the list
thestringpuller: !up ascii_field
shinohai: But really, every time he comes: https://transfer.sh/ABh3C/autism-meter.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1TSbeoA )
jurov: i found it more like bipolar than aspie (not to say it can't be both)
BingoBoingo: shinohai: You should have linked the original English version apparently outsourced to Odesk http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/08/18/negative-publicity-keeps-miners-away-from-bitcoin-xt/
assbot: Negative Publicity Keeps Miners Away from Bitcoin XT - NEWSBTC ... ( http://bit.ly/1Li9DRC )
shinohai: I saw the Spanish one first BingoBoingo xD
kakobrekla: i dont think miners are 'boycotting' at all ftr.
danielpbarron: ;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com
gribble: log.bitcoin-assets.com is up
kakobrekla: problem?
danielpbarron: won't load for me, and now the wiki won't either
jurov: loads fine
kakobrekla: prolly danielpbanned
kakobrekla: pm me your ip i can check
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.000732 = 16.836 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: all taken care of.
kakobrekla: i have a rather trigger happy ban hammer
kakobrekla: a warconfig.
BingoBoingo: Better than configwar
danielpbarron: the blank dvds i picked up today are the wrong kind.. why is + vs - still a thing!?
danielpbarron: is it to get me to walk into the store a 2nd time 50% of the time?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.000732 = 8.967 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: meanwhile i'm trying to remember how I last got a gentoo-live thing on a flash drive
BingoBoingo: Did you install to the drive?
danielpbarron: no, there's supposed to be a way to copy the contents of the .iso to the flash drive
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37150 @ 0.00070467 = 26.1785 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Well you have to make sure it is copying over as the right filesystem then. I forget what it's called that has an actual disk filesystem layered over the CD iso, but probably that is missing
danielpbarron: gotta mount the iso and copy the stuff inside into a specially created disk image file
trinque: danielpbarron: use my thing!
trinque: !s deedbot.org/genbootstrap
assbot: 0 results for 'deedbot.org/genbootstrap' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=deedbot.org%2Fgenbootstrap
trinque: fucker
trinque: !s genbootstrap
assbot: 2 results for 'genbootstrap' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=genbootstrap
trinque: wat...
trinque: danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1239184 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-08-2015 22:32:03; trinque: shinohai: http://deedbot.org/genbootstrap.sh.sig
BingoBoingo: !s genitalstrap
assbot: 0 results for 'genitalstrap' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=genitalstrap
trinque: relevant logs thereafter
shinohai: I tried, builds lovely filesystem, doesn't write it to .img
trinque: er... yeah it does
trinque: or how did you have the filesystem
trinque: it mounts a loop device at "build"
shinohai: yup it mounted device fine
danielpbarron: doesn't that create the final thing? i'm trying to create the flash installer
trinque: there's no "installer" for gentoo that I'm aware of
trinque: the livecd is just another gentoo system
danielpbarron: that's what i mean
danielpbarron: livecd on flash drive
trinque: yar, this will do that
trinque: you need to change two things
trinque: blank out the value for IMAGE and set BLKDEV to the device in /dev for your drive
trinque: being careful of course that you have the right one...
trinque: danielpbarron: the script is written to be read and edited to personal fit
danielpbarron: gah, better off doing that straight to a hard drive i think
trinque: either way.
trinque: it uses genkernel, so it has the livecd's hardware detection
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51749 @ 0.00070217 = 36.3366 BTC [-] {3}
trinque: VariaVarietatis: why do you need voice to read logs?
shinohai: kek
BingoBoingo: ^
trinque: danielpbarron: lemme know how your experience goes; and shinohai I thought you had bad ram or something
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24678 @ 0.00072565 = 17.9076 BTC [+] {3}
Adlai: congratulations alphabetmike and threeletteragencygavin, you've self-excommunicated me to the second foundation
Adlai: so where do i begin with this bitcoin thing?
Adlai: (or do i need to make a third foundation with ben_vulpes and trinque and phf and all the other lispers)
trinque: I only know of one legitimate bitcoin foundation
trinque: (ey satoshi, get in the WoT!)
thestringpuller: Adlai: interesting...there is no lisp client that I can find.
Adlai wrote his own secp256k1 group operations, isn't all the rest supposed to write itself?
trinque: Adlai: did you make a shithub?
trinque: I hear that site writes your code for you
Adlai: sorta?
Adlai: disclaimer: most of this code was written by some pseudonymous tardstalk mathemagician... https://github.com/adlai/bip0032sbcl
assbot: adlai/bip0032sbcl · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jpu9lX )
Adlai only [re]wrote secp256k1.lisp
trinque: neat
trinque: "base autism" << bwahaha wut
Adlai: aha. what does the test test?
Adlai: cf https://github.com/adlai/bip0032sbcl/blob/master/secp256k1.lisp#L65
assbot: bip0032sbcl/secp256k1.lisp at master · adlai/bip0032sbcl · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1JgiGPk )
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 204.25, Best ask: 175.84656934, Bid-ask spread: -28.40343, Last trade: 187.25, 24 hour volume: 50551.56244909, 24 hour low: 225.03, 24 hour high: 258.5, 24 hour vwap: None
mircea_popescu: !up olol
mircea_popescu: !up fkhan
Adlai: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00069186 / 0.00072023 / 0.00076057 (2019005 shares, 1,454.16 BTC), 7D: 0.00057936 / 0.0006804 / 0.0007991 (12557623 shares, 8,544.23 BTC), 30D: 0.00049661 / 0.00057265 / 0.0007991 (83883070 shares, 48,036.33 BTC)
kakobrekla: 175 on bfx
Adlai: so close to breaking 80ksat :(
BingoBoingo thinks BIP 14 user agent string when paired with therealbitcoin have serious potential for lulz
mircea_popescu: <Adlai> so where do i begin with this bitcoin thing? << get stator/rotor going, is a start.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it's in the pipeline
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: atm tabled from lack of anyone asking for it
Adlai: mircea_popescu: thank you, i have found this signal but there's so much noise. working my way through it, trolling a little on the side because trinque apparently skipped number theory class
mircea_popescu: bid-ask spread NEGATIVE ?
mircea_popescu: what the fuck lol
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, 72 connections on dulap
asciilifeform: need moar nodez!
mircea_popescu: bitfinexoinica!
trinque: Adlai: I'm over here reading your code, you cunt.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Cool. It's one of those little pieces which seems to be holding up things like the getpeerinfo call. One of the things keeping my on my personal 0.7 fork. I find myself adjusting my user agent probably a couple times a week now for the chuckles
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 204.25, Best ask: 193.59607986, Bid-ask spread: -10.65392, Last trade: 180.17251972, 24 hour volume: 72150.16277429, 24 hour low: 162.0, 24 hour high: 258.5, 24 hour vwap: None
Adlai gets that warm fuzzy feeling, like how you hit your elbow when somebody thinks of you, but geekier
trinque: and I skipped all the classes, so you'll have to try harder than that.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker from some exchange that's not shit
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 223.71, vol: 15951.47102033 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 230.0, vol: 8456.85296 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 180.74439559, vol: 72150.16277429 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 244.99, vol: 46.91052349 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 231.160764, vol: 19158.45630000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 199.34967, vol: 682.84999191 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 231.7403, vol: 128.65959276 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: average: 198.673495278
Adlai: trinque: sure but you probably got paper at the end
mircea_popescu: so bitfinex finally does the thing it was supposed to to and "cause panic" ?
Adlai: thus all the classes you skipped don't count and your deadbeat dropout status is revoked
mircea_popescu: pity all the gunpowder's wet bois.
asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3hhiun/block_number_370434_first_block_with_a_version << ??
assbot: Block number 370434. First block with a version greater than 3 : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpvtoU ) ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Fuck, why couldn't potential fiat revenue stream actualize last month.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform didn't bingo run >9k version for a whiole ?
trinque: Adlai: no, I skipped *all* the classes.
Adlai: asciilifeform: doesn't slush lets any shmuck with a spondongle specify version numbers?
mircea_popescu: Adlai right. redditards, "FIRST APPLE TREE!111 FOUND IT IN MY GARDEN!"
Adlai: BingoBoingo: so you could realize losses for FY2015
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Client version not block version
mircea_popescu: o
BingoBoingo: Adlai: So I could add to the horde