mircea_popescu: i suppose the proper nomenclature would be "creative people [that never learned any math]", tho the tail's usually omitted.
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mircea_popescu: "we don't believe in bears because we work on commission for our lively. hood."
mats: meanwhile, to my knowledge, assad still hasn't given approval for strikes against ISIS inside syria
Naphex: xotika.tv referral program is up and available for those interested. 2.5% of the tippings received or sent by users you invite. Everything is tracked real time and available from withdraw from the platform.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your idea of straightness is "have never observed a penis" ?
Naphex: clients get tracked and the rewards are sticky
mircea_popescu: (i didn't see the thing in question, for some reason .webm comes out as a string of bits)
mircea_popescu: female privilege is never having had your bits rejected for center stageness.
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 23:20:17; shinohai: It does tons of good. The same people that get deported are back in < 6 months.
mircea_popescu: anyway. it's unclear to me pron can be judged through formal means.
mircea_popescu: but yeah, the entire xt nonsense exists chiefly as a venue for various nobodies to exercise negative powers they don't actually have.
mircea_popescu: i won't bother looking at just how much this connotes their hunger for my cock, out of respect of asciilifeform's heterosexuality.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think i ever got a pron erection.
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 23:55:16; mircea_popescu: "add this magnetic strip to your miner and save 3-50% electricity by the refocusing of positron rings"
mircea_popescu: i suspek pron erections work like erections work generally, which is to say, as a learned behaviour. people get erections like dogs salivate, more or less.
mircea_popescu: you could definitely train someone to get hard at the sight of ears
mircea_popescu: yeah, very picket-fence-y this one. the usian housewive only wears heels the night she's gonna fuck "the master of the house", and so...
mircea_popescu: t react to the bare cunt much and b) can't actually draw the female body.
mircea_popescu: which is a pity because arab sluts have really nice ass/waist combos.
gribble: Error: 'D126595B' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.
mircea_popescu: "Peer priorities are based on matching the connecting IP against a set of IP groups. For now, the only IP group is one that gives Tor exits a score of -10."
mircea_popescu: that particular bit of pseudoscientific nonsense is not dying soon, is it.
assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 11:41:31; mircea_popescu: and then $ gpg --keyserver sks-keyservers.net --send-key <KEYID> and $ gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-key <KEYID> where keyid you just copy from the line above.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck is it so intuitively obvious to stupid people that keeping a list of sins is practicable, useful or desirable.
kakobrekla: Varia_Varietatis it takes some time for key to be visible on sks, apart from that i think you might be hopping the wrong bot
mircea_popescu: the amusing thing to me is that all the libertard anglos read baudrillard, deleuze, lyotard, & co like the dog listens to music.
mircea_popescu: ten thousand if statements is pre fucking saussure ffs.
mircea_popescu: an understanding of things up to the most recent discoveries & bleeding edge of understanding cca 1815
assbot: Nick kakobrekla is already taken.
danielpbarron: and that doesn't look to be long enough for a fingerprint
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 22:33:07; mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> there is no reason for '90s bricks. << motorola made them with good enough antenna assemblages you could bash a head in. also the hi q plastics in the casing allowed one to drive mercedes over phone and then use it.
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 22:34:45; mircea_popescu: if only ubuntu weren't fucktarded we could recommend it to noobs.
Varia_Varietatis: I put in my full finger print with spaces and without didnt work.
BingoBoingo: !up n6 Tell these kind folks what you accomplished today.
n6: thanks to everyone who helped.
BingoBoingo: n6: And you are going to continue consulting the man pages when things go wrong?
n6: Yes, im done with the ubuntu style of copy paste guide.
n6: I will be reading that asap
n6: and the unix book you told me about.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Book also has danielpbarron's endorsement
n6: got gentoo installed only to lose my lsub, and have my ethernet router stepped on in such a way all 4 ports went out.
n6: Couldn't recover after that.
BingoBoingo: Just remember OpenBSD still contains plenty of ways to hang yourself. On the plus side almost all of them are very well documented.
Varia_Varietatis: I still can't seem to join the wot. putting in my full keyid 95AD4E4BD126595B
mircea_popescu: mine's 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452 not 76998A736F0E2FB7B452
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I had a cheap crosscut machine that experience the general mysterious "stopped working" failure mode most consumer products from walmart do.
gribble: Error: 'should' is not a valid integer.
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
BingoBoingo: Varia_Varietatis: Oh, that one's outdated as far as bot registration for this channel goes
assbot: You must be rated before you can rate.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform my tm shredder cut ~78k pages. electric. diamond blades.
BingoBoingo: Varia_Varietatis: Do any of us know you from anywhere? Forgive me. My memory is imperfect.
n6: here I am two places at once
BingoBoingo: !rate Varia_Varietatis 1 New, Ambitious, reading man pages
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BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: wouldn't want to burn the confetti from this one. on account of every other snail mail envelope containing an unsolicited plastic bank card << Why are you so afraid of burning petro-strange?
assbot: Rating should be any non zero value between 10 and -10.
BingoBoingo: Burning strange is much more acceptable in this region
assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 23:57:29; mircea_popescu: mostly a disease of "visual thinkers", as illustrated by the poor job they do at covering the actual space.
TomServo: I'm late to the party, but thought I'd report my 0.5.3.1 is also wedged @ 367850.
TomServo: I can provide logs if it's of any help.
BingoBoingo: TomServo: Rebuilt editing db.cpp to much higher settings
TomServo: Effort better spent building rotor?
TomServo: I'm probably too slow to be much use, but what are the current requests for testing? still TEST2? or rotor?
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BingoBoingo got new 64 GB usb drive to day for blockchain backup, formats as FFS
BingoBoingo: !v assbot:BingoBoingo.unrate.Varia_Varietatis:0849b388f960f2692a5f90663ca03599e09d7f361ee68674225ed865270b9ae8
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assbot: Logged on 10-08-2015 03:13:24; asciilifeform: ;;later tell lobbes can we has the bot back plz ?
lobbes: This is just a workaround, though. I still have to discern where in the code it zeros out the cache. So I'm not confident putting back into 'production' just yet.
Apocalyptic: BingoBoingo, you know the Coinspect blog post is more than a year old right ?
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: It was brought to my attention today and the story has an important moral. Don't set conditions for letting a machine automatically sign your shit.
BingoBoingo: Because that's probably the next -XT feature.
Apocalyptic: yeah that's worthwhile to point out, just that it's not really newsworthy
mircea_popescu: soo, somewhat interesting, maybe. 1984 was actually born at a precise place : "In nationalist thought there are facts which are both true and untrue, known and unknown. A known fact may be so unbearable that it is habitually pushed aside and not allowed to enter into logical processes, or on the other hand it may enter into every calculation and yet never be admitted as a fact, even in one's own mind." appears in a 194
mircea_popescu: 5 piece denouncing "nationalism". which, at the time, simply denoted what socialism (or "liberalism" as it usually self-identifies) denotes today : the ideology of stupid people.
mircea_popescu: "Every nationalist is haunted by the belief that the past can be altered. He spends part of his time in a fantasy world in which things happen as they should–in which, for example, the Spanish Armada was a success or the Russian Revolution was crushed in 1918–and he will transfer fragments of this world to the history books whenever possible. Much of the propagandist writing of our time amounts to plain forgery. Ma
mircea_popescu: terial facts are suppressed, dates altered, quotations removed from their context and doctored so as to change their meaning. Events which it is felt ought not to have happened are left unmentioned and ultimately denied [Note, below]. In 1927 Chiang Kai Shek boiled hundreds of Communists alive, and yet within ten years he had become one of the heroes of the Left. The re-alignment of world politics had brought him into
mircea_popescu: the anti-Fascist camp, and so it was felt that the boiling of the Communists 'didn't count', or perhaps had not happened. The primary aim of propaganda is, of course, to influence contemporary opinion, but those who rewrite history do probably believe with part of their minds that they are actually thrusting facts into the past. When one considers the elaborate forgeries that have been committed in order to show that T
mircea_popescu: rotsky did not play a valuable part in the Russian civil war, it is difficult to feel that the people responsible are merely lying. More probably they feel that their own version was what happened in the sight of God, and that one is justified in rearranging the records accordingly."
mircea_popescu: replace "nationalist" with "socialist" (or, if you prefer to use the self term, "liberal") and note how the ideology of the stupid still behaves today in the manner it behaved then.
mircea_popescu: thus therefore : mozart had a sister ; there existed black people of import in history ; global warming was the consensus during the mini ice age six centuries ago and so on.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 03:14:33; mircea_popescu: meanwhile tyhe next paragraph is actually the valuable bit :
mats: i am fond of that actress
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except it pointedly has nothing to do with "nationalist"
mircea_popescu: it's just the twerp who wants to "be part of something"
mats: you know, in her professional capacity as an actress.
mircea_popescu: yeah, because they didn't have reddit yet. same govt jobs, tho.
mircea_popescu: "(iii) COLOUR FEELING. The old-style contemptuous attitude towards 'natives' has been much weakened in England, and various pseudo-scientific theories emphasising the superiority of the white race have been abandoned.[Note, below] Among the intelligentsia, colour feeling only occurs in the transposed form, that is, as a belief in the innate superiority of the coloured races. This is now increasingly common among Englis
mircea_popescu: h intellectuals, probably resulting more often from masochism and sexual frustration than from contact with the Oriental and Negro nationalist movements."
mats: i found out today my former verizon wireless grandfathered unlimited plan is worth 1k on ebay
mircea_popescu: moreover, the purely sexual drive of the entire "black superiority" notion held strictly by pencilnecked white guys is glaring.
mircea_popescu: grandfathered everything were worth insane amounts. like you know, "being served by the old style dumpsters rather than the new ones"
☟︎ mats: you can transfer ownership to someone else, i met a guy today that bought it
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> battleship we have the unsinkable Military Expert . . .' << The "men" were defeating "analysis"
mats: he travels for work and the plan is entirely unthrottled, uses 3-400gb of LTE every month
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mats: prob customer loyalty
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 03:25:45; mircea_popescu: grandfathered everything were worth insane amounts. like you know, "being served by the old style dumpsters rather than the new ones"
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 03:16:11; mircea_popescu: thus therefore : mozart had a sister ; there existed black people of import in history ; global warming was the consensus during the mini ice age six centuries ago and so on.
BingoBoingo: Oh, apparently reddit admins just straight up changed the moderators of /r/PunchableFaces
mircea_popescu: libertards made a film about "mozart as a woman", but not actually insane enough to just do it, so it came out a sort of pancake.
mircea_popescu: i had a long standing bet that the "nationalists" will make a "shakespeare was a woman. rly. " attempt at rewriting history to fit the agenda
mircea_popescu: or you know, what they perceive is right in god's eye.
mircea_popescu: "Nationalistic attachment to the coloured races is usually mixed up with the belief that their sex lives are superior, and there is a large underground mythology about the sexual prowess of Negroes."
mircea_popescu: this is perhaps the most objectionable part of these fried chicken niggers, clogging government with their unwelcome corpses.
mircea_popescu: instead of learning the world as it is, they dream up an infinitely boring-er, stolid-er, like them-er one.
mircea_popescu: i'd be curious to see what'd happen to one of these scumcanoes should they get somehow magically stuck into seeing themselves with the eyes of a sane person.
mircea_popescu: 3 hours of this, julia roberts going slowly insane while seeking the help of an entire array of "experts" to make reality CEASE!11
mircea_popescu: maybe she could blow her brains out at the premiere, right on the red carpet.
BingoBoingo: OH, /r/punchablefaces was turned over to SJW's and Libertards supporting Bernie Sanders revolted
mircea_popescu: yeah, one of the best to date (good will hunting) was drastically unconvincing
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Apparently much of reddit was upvoating multiple posts of the #Blacklivesmatter Hamplanet who got a bernie sanders speech canceled as an /r/punchableface this was followed by Reddit censorship in the name of Cliter. Now there's a fuckton of wholes becasue no one on reddit uses archive.is
mircea_popescu: i have no idea who bernie sanders is, or why black lives'd matter.
BingoBoingo: And yet, Black owned businesses are still being looted in Fergeson by niggers to the point Black people hate niggers
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (do they mean "the lives of blacks" matter ?) << Yes
mircea_popescu: why do they say "black lives" when they mean "the lives of blacks" ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i have no idea who bernie sanders is, or why black lives'd matter. << The democrat running against Cliter in the presidential primary who admits to being a socialist
assbot: [BRDSCUSSION] Reddit is in the throes of a white supremacist meltdown regarding Black Lives Matter and Bernie Sanders : ShitRedditSays ... (
http://bit.ly/1huyVlB )
mircea_popescu: who's the white supremacist ? the hamplanet or sanders ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Both are Black supremacists.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The complication and number of steps you have to understand are "essential propaganda noise"
mircea_popescu: so wait. the black people that have no pro-grammar make the lives of blacks matter by opposing the campaign appearances of a white guy that runs against a white woman for the nomination to presidency of the democratic party ?
BingoBoingo: The hamplanet was black and Bernie Sanders is this cycle's prime food stamp candidate
mircea_popescu: so they have 0 to do with the lives of black people, being just another outsourced astroturf effort ?
mircea_popescu: and the only place where this matters is reddit, much in the way the only place you find bilge is down in the keel ?
BingoBoingo: "I'm not so prepared to dismiss this protest as "poorly researched" or "poorly executed." I feel like this protest follows a pattern that's so common in feminist and queer circles that we should recognize and expect it now: we critique each other to make our movement inclusive and intersectional, so that our spaces might reject all oppressive forms. When a queer bar isn't entirely inclusive to people that aren't cis-white-rich-gay
BingoBoingo: men, it's much easier to critique and change that bar into one that is inclusive than to petition the nearest straight bar. When Taylor Swift fucks up as a feminist, we call her out (yet we don't call out men or women who do not identify as feminist with nearly such vigor). Why? Because we hope that these people are much more inclined to listen and to uplift further marginalized people and movements.
BingoBoingo: When no candidate is in full support of your movement, it's going to be easiest to convince the one that is somewhat supportive to do a better job than to convince your greatest enemy to do a slightly less shitty job."
mircea_popescu: "We here at /r/ShitRedditSays are taking the firm policy"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so they have 0 to do with the lives of black people, being just another outsourced astroturf effort ? << up, see above
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The collective farm we. The gulag's vote as reported in Washington
BingoBoingo: No language should have to suffer this attempt at persuasive prose.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the faux-soviet terminology is endearing. such wannabes.
BingoBoingo: C++ is embarrassed right now that an English speaker birthed it
mircea_popescu: so how is a plastic bimbo that exists to keep these idiots chugging along in the muck "a feminist" ?
BingoBoingo: Taylor Swift could actually get the dick though. Britney Chain always had the crazy.
funkenstein_: we need dave chapelle back to straighten all this out for us
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so how is a plastic bimbo that exists to keep these idiots chugging along in the muck "a feminist" ? << Swift like Beyonce used the word feminist thinking it would "expand their market"
pete_dushenski: "name da 5 best rappers of all time : dylan, dylan, dylan, dylan, and dylan"
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> and the black white supremacist. << Old meme. Been done since 1620
mircea_popescu: "However, as this matter might not be fully understood, we would like to open a space for discussion in order to further understanding. The usual rules about circlequeefing and Rule X (to an extent) do not apply in this thread, however we expect discussion to be in good faith and a genuine attempt to understand the white supremacy behind the angry reactions to Black Lives Matter's quite frankly highly successful and ex
mircea_popescu: tremely necessary protesting. Note that this is not a debate. The angry backlash at Black Lives Matter is pure white supremacy and this is not up for compromise, however there are few sources for understanding why this fact is, and we would like to help our sisters in BRD understand them better."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It doesn't translate to anything
mircea_popescu: "gynocratic councillor at large" sounds pretty apt for plenty of these tho
BingoBoingo: Dude had a campaign rally, dark Hamplanet hijacked the stage because can't afford cameras, supporters of candidate suddenly racist
mircea_popescu: Of the top 50 /r/punchablefaces, 42 of them are about the BLM protestors. The top 10 have a combined total of over 47k points, more than 3x the amount of points than what Obama's AMA got, or hell even twice the top post of all time from me_irl.
mircea_popescu: so wait, i thought the libertards were you know, dominating and shit ?
mircea_popescu: who was derping on about how the circle-queef to use its self-given name was in charge of the us ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so wait, i thought the libertards were you know, dominating and shit ? << Actual libertards love Bernie Sanders because he confesses to being socialist. Lizard Libertards want Clitler so... Social media fight
BingoBoingo: Basically this is all an intra libertard fight
mircea_popescu: But here’s the thing – what’s powerful about these interruptions from Black women is less how it has changed the tone of the Democratic campaigns and more about what they have exposed in the White left.
mircea_popescu: I see these protests as less about the individual candidates themselves and more about how their White base refuses to center Black lives and Black issues.
BingoBoingo: But the Handlers never imagined that one sect would go so over the rails in the name of "intersectionality" that the Level 1 socialists could defeat the Lv 65 NPC pan-racial boss by swarming
mircea_popescu: not notable. and in any case already overrepresented and overcatered.
mircea_popescu: not to mention the part where most black people actually would rather be NOT part of the little africa ghetto these fucktards are trying to build.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> I see these protests as less about the individual candidates themselves and more about how their White base refuses to center Black lives and Black issues. << This is the great problem of "the people" as a construct.
mircea_popescu: next we're going to center bitcoin around the power rangers or some equally deranged shit,
mircea_popescu: because a vague affiliation with a crumbly, 1/10 base can be parlayed into interest through speaking really loudly.
BingoBoingo: "the people" as retarded in development as it necessarily is always presents as a unified mass when it is really a bunch of things that don't agree on a single point.
BingoBoingo: People way off in insanity and people still level 1 insanity might percieve a bond until their insanities collide
mircea_popescu: the only vaguely concerning point was that i thought hilary's presidency a foregone conclusion since about i dunno, 2008 or so.
mircea_popescu: senator hurrdurr (who really seems an exact mirror image of ron paul in left colorings) is certainly out of the question, but omfg don't tell me trump takes over and does a postmodern rendition of reagan
pete_dushenski: if anything can upset that woman's dreams, it's the donald
BingoBoingo: The race right now is fucked. The left press called Rubio the winner of the first GOP debate before any poll numbers and Rubio close to platonically stupid.
pete_dushenski: if u.s. politics is a tv game show, which it so often seems to be, how could trump (or someone equally outrageous) lose ?
mircea_popescu: you know, romanian "press" and "social media" got very much similarly humiliated in 2008 when a romanian sort of donalt trump trampled all over their girlbits.
mircea_popescu: it was kinda the point it became obvious the alt-planet lost the battle, there.
mircea_popescu: and it was beautiful, five years of 10-20% shrinkage in "advertising spending" were followed by a 80% and two 50%s.
mircea_popescu: to the point 100s of romanian taylor swifts got recently arrested for prostitution (they were doing it for 1-200 euros, rate price)
mircea_popescu: (rate price means i wouldn't pay 50% of that in any case)
pete_dushenski: mats: who in their right fucking mind would trust the latest nist 'standard'
mircea_popescu: "It’s also possible I failed to attract the right visitors. This is only a one man show, and I can only churn out so much linkbait, even for the sake of science."
mats: nobody asked you to trust nist
pete_dushenski: mats: eh i wasn't being personal, speaking generally here
mircea_popescu: the one possibility of interest he neglects is "sane people use the browser as a strictly stateless device. to them it makes absolutely no difference."
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski mats is on a hunt for cultism in the cult, and you stepped on his detector.
mats: sha3 was created in an open process like rijndael
mircea_popescu: reddit notably also publishes through an open process.
mats: there are publications detailing the selection process, Chang et. al
mircea_popescu: tell you what. unless i can personally break it, it does not meet my definition of "open".
mircea_popescu: that's what open is : something that continues only inasmuch i do not break it.
mats: as you suggest, open-ness is subject to personal definitions
mircea_popescu: that'd be about it. claims to the contrary are an exercise in directed disingenuity.
mircea_popescu: and there's nothing wrong with it being a closed process, either. other than - don't expect folks whoi aren't politically alligned to give a slightest fuck.
mircea_popescu: not like the us police implements the rules dreamed up byu the supreme soviet of north korea
mircea_popescu: and this without any discussion of the merits. as great as they may be. and without even reading them.
mircea_popescu: because they make very strictly no difference whatsoever.
BingoBoingo: Related: "I stopped going to school because people were kicking my ass" - Mike Tyson
BingoBoingo: If I recall SHA-3 draft FPGA outdates Bitcoin mining FPGA
mats: well, hand-waving aside, "SHA-3 has no known security issues, whereas SHA-1, MD5, and SHA-512 are susceptible to length-extension. SHA-1 and MD5 are vulnerable to collision attacks, which are expensive for SHA-1, but which are cheap and allow chosen-prefixes for MD5."
wilbns: excerpt: "We are told that the OBEY sign, with or without the GIANT sign, is anti-authoritarian. But is the fact
wilbns: that a lot of young people are wearing shirts with the words OBEY on them—without knowing
wilbns: anything about the artistic, historical, or “anti-propaganda” significance of all this—really anti-
wilbns: authoritarian? Or is it just the excuse to get the word OBEY up everywhere?"
BingoBoingo though anyways SHA-3 was proposed entirely on the pretense of "speed"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That. Or like Elliptic curve in lieu of RSA
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> less bats moar fist. << But dat leverage the bat offers
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trinque: Varia_Varietat+| Guys I forgot the passphase on the key I just made. << wahahaha!
trinque: study your gentoo install in the meanwhile.
BingoBoingo: trinque: He's on OpenBSD now and a six month hold order
funkenstein_: "tightly controlled currency" in what sense do you think mats?
pete_dushenski: "This part looks so awesome that Mad Max even pauses during the action just to watch people blow up. It's as if he knows he's acting in this awesome movie and he's getting paid to do his job, but even he can't help but sit back and think about how cool his life is going to be after this movie and how he's going to spend the rest of his life getting his knob polished by conjoined supermodel twins for being in thi
pete_dushenski: s awesome scene. " << par for the 2015 meta-movie course
trinque: BingoBoingo: OpenBSD is probably a much better n00b suggestion
☟︎ pete_dushenski: spoiler alert : i was bullied, but i was also a bully !
trinque: great installer, for example
mats: funkenstein_: how else? central bank carefully and regularly buys and sells it in domestic forex market
☟︎ pete_dushenski: speaking of movie recommendations : pumping iron (1977)
BingoBoingo: trinque: Of course if you've not seem the previous Mad Max sequels best to follow its watchings with 2, thunderdome, then a rewatching
BingoBoingo: Pumping Iron is good, but the Starz movie champs seems to cover a yet more masculine competition
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: The way you enjoy car culture some Immortan Joe seems necessary
pete_dushenski: i tried watching the original, 10 minutes was all i could take.
mats: yes, mad max originals are boring compared to fury road
funkenstein_: mats, ok.. but isn't that what zimbabwe central bank did too?
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Really every Mad Max except for the original is great
pete_dushenski: i can't for the life of me understand why all the news about china's currency devaluation is all '2nd largest global economy' blah blah re: china.
mats: funkenstein_: I don't know specifics of ZWD collapse, but let's say yes, so what?
☟︎ BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> china's been the biggest for what, 5 years ? << Same reason Zynga is an ongoing concern instead of a cauterized wound
mats: funkenstein_: I imagine the particular use arises from the nearly daily management of the rate
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: As a strength each Mad Max installment is completely independent. In order of interesting I rate then 2.4.3.1
funkenstein_: i was at first surprised how easily it appears for people to arb. CNH/USD/BTC
BingoBoingo: <funkenstein_> i was at first surprised how easily it appears for people to arb. CNH/USD/BTC << And hen you actually try it
funkenstein_: if capital controls were effective, there would be differences
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BingoBoingo: My favorite aspect of Mad Max is he kills every budding socialist civilization he comes across
assbot: Ferguson protesters, police gather on West Florissant Avenue; state of emergency declared in county : News ... (
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assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 04:15:45; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: me think cazalla is on a similar hunt ?
BingoBoingo: Aussie and Candidian are different kinds of Anglo degeneracy
Vexual: canadians just have more money
cazalla: thought you were dead or something Vexual
Vexual: as you know caz, aussies are hard to kill
cazalla: i had a few beers friday night but other than that, good
shinohai: Nice summary of copay BingoBoingo (tagged "shitware")
BingoBoingo: shinohai: "shitware" is one of qntra's oldest established tags
shinohai: One day I should like to write something for qntra.
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 06:03:32; trinque: BingoBoingo: OpenBSD is probably a much better n00b suggestion
shinohai: I'm not much in the politics arena, it will have to be something along the lines of shitcoin or redditard bashing.
BingoBoingo: cazalla: n6 managed to. Just needs 6 months to catch up to civilized folk.
shinohai: n6 finally decided what distro to use? After naming off like 20 yesterday?
Vexual: shinohai, you're texan?
BingoBoingo: shinohai: I told n6 to just install OpenBSD. Then he found a guide to set up a "desktop" which convinced him to edit fstab (treat as read only). Got him to reinstall and find a saner guide. Didn't check his hardware and because Nvidia his resolution is painful. Directed to keep reading man pages.
☟︎ shinohai: I spent 2-3 hours in PM's trying to get him up to speed on gpg and stuff
BingoBoingo: After that he forgot his GPG password and I quit
shinohai: srsly, forgot his GPG passphrase.
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> I spent 2-3 hours in PM's trying to get him up to speed on gpg and stuff << Going into the future this is a serious meat DoS attack vector
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 08:33:14; BingoBoingo: shinohai: I told n6 to just install OpenBSD. Then he found a guide to set up a "desktop" which convinced him to edit fstab (treat as read only). Got him to reinstall and find a saner guide. Didn't check his hardware and because Nvidia his resolution is painful. Directed to keep reading man pages.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Well if someone he's getting syn's at their brain ack'd it's the same as what happens at the internet socket
shinohai: I don't mind trying to help someone, like I stated earlier I just didn't have my crayons handy for the type of approach he needed.
BingoBoingo: At some point though people are going to help themselves.
shinohai: The agora crowd can learn GPG while spaced out on LSD, shouldn't be that hard.
BingoBoingo: This may be the waning time of helping people to get into the WoT
Vexual: bassbot has me ignore, ill need some fierce lsd to calc
shinohai: No one wants to *do* anything BingoBoingo, they like instant validation you get by repeating whatever someone says on r/bitcoin now.
☟︎ shinohai: HEY I GOT 78 UPVOATS, HURR DURR FOR ME
shinohai: One day I'll be as famous as Vitalik Bullshitterin.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: The Phillipenis accepts that sure. But we've been under a variety of sustained attacks for a while. I'm getting to the point now where I really have trouble assuming n00bs are well intentioned like I may have in 2013.
shinohai: I was about ready to give up on bitcoin until I found this place.
BingoBoingo: I mean if someone can't follow instructions other people succeed on. Time spent is a waste. Wasting that time is a resource to be attacked.
shinohai: But what can ya do, all one can do is present the facts and hope it penetrates someoes thick skull and finds fetile brain matter on which to germinate.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Consider if someone wastes an hour of my time, I've usually got lots of time. No big deal. If on the other hand that person manages to waste 15 minutes of asciilifeform's time we have experienced a tragic loss.
Vexual: that dude uses his time as he pleases
BingoBoingo: When the last pre-0.8 wedge came through I suspected it was a BDB issue but alf was the one to euthanize it at the root.
☟︎ shinohai: Well BingoBoingo those space cadets I mentioned earlier are perfectly happy to *pay* for an hour or two of my time, and are surprisingly apt students. They gotta be - No GPG = No drugs.
shinohai: Here is a different story. If someone expresses an interest in therealbitcoin I want to help, because more nodes.
BingoBoingo: In my current situation knowingly servicing the drug crowd for pay is too much risk. I'm out on bail. If they want to even ask for my service and get acknowledged they need GPG down already.
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> Here is a different story. If someone expresses an interest in therealbitcoin I want to help, because more nodes. << First lesson of reddit is randos don't run nodes
shinohai: No, reddit prefers to offer their opinions on bitcoin, as if that helps.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: See. Opinions can have an effect though if they are actionable and acted upon.
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Oh, I thought they were too busy trying to stay up.
shinohai: That's true, most of these "opinions" are just regurgitated talk from the guy that commented above you.
shinohai: Have you guys seen that other voat-like site that popped up in the wake of the reddit brouhaha? Lets you "upvote" with pencil-shavings of btc, ltc, and doge.
assbot: yayalorde comments on "Hearing these poor women desperately begging us to take their credit card numbers so they could put up an ad to feed their families changed everything." ... (
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punkman: reddit is getting too much airtime
Vexual: thought on the yuan ounk?
punkman: "the move was a "one-off depreciation" of 1.9% in a move to make the exchange rate more market-oriented. "
punkman: so their exports slumped, let's make our shit cheaper?
Hasimir: or did I just disconnect and autoreconect again?
punkman: they gotta manage everything "The midpoint for the yuan is now set at 6.2298 to $1, up from 6.1162 yuan on Monday. The People's Bank of China (POBC) manages the rate through the official midpoint, from which trade can rise or fall 2% on any given day."
☟︎ Hasimir: yeah, that was it (well, that and ZNC)
Vexual: commerxbank think they want into imf
Vexual: hasimar ass we see is what you say
Vexual: i find it hard to swallow
Vexual: in any aother system you might find a maximum efficiency
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mircea_popescu: sooo, i got a rather amusing internal report from reddit. it would seem that
mircea_popescu: a) very few entries actually get > 100 upvotes. as in, it's happened twice so far this year. b) the number of negative votes exceeds the positive by a degree of magnitude or more on average, and regularly by two degrees on "popular" items. when this doesn't happen it's always obscure stories with one or two votes.
mircea_popescu: c) to cope with this situations the admins universally make up random vote counts ; d) to cope with the shortage of manpower this causes all sorts of exponential factorizations are used, which means that in practice a story is first "fast tracked" which means some admin ticks a box and from there on it gets all sorts of factors and additions
mircea_popescu: e) the system is pretty byzantine so that admins regularly can not predict what the results of their choices will actually be
mircea_popescu: f) they tried all sorts of experimental "harness the negative votes" but nothing could be made to werk
mircea_popescu: and finally g) they've been bleeding people from engineering at an ever accelerating rate since 2010 (or earlier) and by now it's so bad people leave during the first three months as a regular occurence. they briefly and unsuccessfully tried the "pay more" approach, it didn't do much, currently they've practically given up on the problem altogether.
mircea_popescu: along with all sorts of personally damning tidbits and a treasure trove of all sorts of lols.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: welll... no, not really "all sorts". "autistic usian" sorts.
shinohai: reddit is doomed to go the way of digg
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, no, because apparently all sorts of people (who otherwise have no money and no influence, which is to say - their inept choices ands valuations have stranded them irl) think it's incredibly important and valuable!
shinohai: Conde Nast I guess feels the need to dump resources into it.
mircea_popescu: these'd be all sorts of self-described activists, which in any other place'd be known as "political arivists" except this doesn't apply because they're actually too fat/lazy/lost in self to even have ambitions.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's alltogether more layered laziness, such as, "if i give up the delusion that my activity on the rickety house of cards we call reddit matters, i will have to find other work to do as part of my being politically important, which is hard and risks requiring me looking up from the tablet or going out of starbucks. so let's instead pretend."
mircea_popescu: in any case, reddit's gonna die its own, livejournal-y sort of death. digg iirc died when it crashed against a thick brick wall of "nobody cares".
shinohai: Anyone here used vee as a blogging platform ?
shinohai: Comes pre-installed on my NetBSD shell. May give it a whirl sometimes.
mircea_popescu: mats the true question is whether this is a test run and they hit it again more to the tune of 30-40% later in the year.
mircea_popescu: it's one way to fix their major capital allocation issues / bad provincial govt "investment" / valuable real estate on paper etc.
mircea_popescu: the most relevant part of all this to bitcoin being that price stickiness (principally, the stubborn refusal of old people to admit that real estate they once bought is not now worth what they paid for it) may very well require inflation as the best social solution.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: by a damned sight better than say, beatings. and it's altogether unclear an alternative to these exists.
mircea_popescu: balzac's french contemporaries (who were on the napoleon gold standard) pretty much used the beatings, which did make for great literature but really a rather miserable society.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 06:06:57; mats: funkenstein_: how else? central bank carefully and regularly buys and sells it in domestic forex market
mircea_popescu: due to that position, the yuan's simply worth whatever the fuck they say it's worth.
mircea_popescu: "In the future, everyone has a war machine, nobody wears seatbelts and everyone tries to be as flammable as possible. Damn right."
mircea_popescu: and re charlize theron : i get it, chicks not really able to act, but is very pretty, so she's going to do either porn or action movies (which really aren't in any sense distinct). makes sense. what doesn't make sense is this bodily self-loathing hot women in hollywood seem to have gotten into the past few years.
mircea_popescu: angelina jolie is following the psychotic body mod trends of every zsa zsa gabor since the 50s, except she's not lifting her skin to the point her bellybutton adorns her chin, instead she's taking out her ovaries, the fat in her tits and i suppose putting in an armenian unibrow next, because hey.
mircea_popescu: the unholy alliance of the pretty airhead and the horde of self-loathing hamplanets where the latter convince the former that they should grind their face on sandpaper and cut off her nipples because the ugliest she gets, the "better"
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 06:10:44; funkenstein_: mats, ok.. but isn't that what zimbabwe central bank did too?
shinohai tosses his pogoplug in the garbage disposal, gives up on stupid arm processors and cross-compiling.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 06:14:27; mats: funkenstein_: I don't know specifics of ZWD collapse, but let's say yes, so what?
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234470 << in its own mind the us is always going to be firstest bestest. it ends as the twerps in question die out, britannia also thought itself first bestsest 4evar!! all through the 30s, and the 40s, and the 50s (remember the humiliation they and the french got in egypt, bested by sadat ?) and so on. it died meanwhile through the biological process of, "the old people
☝︎☟︎ assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 06:14:18; pete_dushenski: china's been the biggest for what, 5 years ?
mircea_popescu: stubbornly refusing to admit that ideological estate they once bought is not now worth what they paid for it eventually die"
mircea_popescu: come to think about it, all the things "we" dislike about postmodernism, specifically the deluge of cultural artefacts (ideas, as opposed to [civilisational] artefacts, ie items) may well be the unavoidably necessary equivalent to inflation, to wash away the idiocy of these guys without having to beat them up/
shinohai: Shitty old AMD laptop: 1, Shiny pogo: 0
mircea_popescu: otherwise you'll get "brownstone is the best stone" and "american ideas must prevail everywhere" endlessly.
mircea_popescu: shinohai maybe i don't understand crosscompilation, but a) shouldn't it work on pogo if you ever got it to compile/link anywhere ? and b) wasn't the idea to avoid compiling for the pogo ON THE POGO anyway ?
shinohai: I tried with the pogotron instructions, have read hours upon hours about buildroot, tried writing my own build scripts, etc. Nothing.
shinohai: Compiling ON the pogo is pointless.
shinohai: I have yet to find anyone willing to let me peek at their buildlog that *has* sucessfully done this.
shinohai: Which btw I am at height 109638 on the one we built this weekend past. Runs good.
shinohai: prefixing LC_ALL=C is a bit annoying, but not a dealbreaker
shinohai: Yes a buildlog, any relevant notes someone can include.
shinohai: I'm not below doing my own research but this one has me totally stumped.
shinohai retrieves his pogo from the disposal and puts it back on the shelf.
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assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 11:34:10; mircea_popescu: along with all sorts of personally damning tidbits and a treasure trove of all sorts of lols.
mircea_popescu: moreover, trilema is not a news rag, it's a personal blog.
mircea_popescu: this ain't no kind of deathray. the (incidentally : verifiable) maybe-deathray-esque parts are above in any case.
mircea_popescu: apparently there's about a dozen or two diddle "profiles"
mircea_popescu: all one needs to do is keep screenshots over fixed time intervals. eventually the data should be indicative.
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 12:00:46; mircea_popescu: the most relevant part of all this to bitcoin being that price stickiness (principally, the stubborn refusal of old people to admit that real estate they once bought is not now worth what they paid for it) may very well require inflation as the best social solution.
mircea_popescu: yes, real estate allows them to "profit" from inflation, in the sense of being taxed at 30% instead of 65%
mircea_popescu: this is not unlike the idiot jews in ghetto taking jobs for germans.
mircea_popescu: because the context has changed. in 1971 a lot of schmucks knew their place.
mircea_popescu: chiefly through the process of, the world of 1971 not being worth two shits in the terms of today.
mircea_popescu: see, admire the beauty of it. how much would an ipad be worth in 1971 ?
mircea_popescu: much enough that it was put in fucking star trek, right ?
mircea_popescu: the entire "apple stock could buy russia" is nothing more and nothing else than, "you could probably buy all of 1971"
mircea_popescu: im sure some uppity redskin proposed the steam engine, too.
mircea_popescu: you understand ? the society of 1971 is just as broken as this one, but not actually raped yet.
mircea_popescu: huge profits could be driven by raping it from the future.
mircea_popescu: which is the point. the "1971 educated man" does not yet know he's an imbecile.
mircea_popescu: yet the continuation of his imbecility is exactly 2015.
mircea_popescu: it's not like the aliens came in and made the country stupid.
mircea_popescu: this was a convenient excuse in romania, "things went to shit because teh russians are making us do it !111"
mircea_popescu: so - without inflation they'd still be around, derping on, as if their ideas and values are valuable and useful.
mircea_popescu: which were utter pieces of shit, btw, and what you said above could have been said by italian "educated man" of the time,
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 12:01:47; mircea_popescu: balzac's french contemporaries (who were on the napoleon gold standard) pretty much used the beatings, which did make for great literature but really a rather miserable society.
mircea_popescu: heck, the same thing was said by educated men of the opium
mircea_popescu: i say it today, and the conclave of derps is like "hey, mp is just silly, drugs are great mkay"
mircea_popescu: in young people and especially young women it is how the fucxk do you say this in english
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 12:15:34; *: shinohai tosses his pogoplug in the garbage disposal, gives up on stupid arm processors and cross-compiling.
shinohai: Later on down I did get it back out.
shinohai: I did swap when I tried it w/ the precompiled binary.
shinohai: precompiled binaries are boring tho. I don't learn anything.
shinohai: which is why I am using my spare lappy now
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 12:10:01; mircea_popescu: the unholy alliance of the pretty airhead and the horde of self-loathing hamplanets where the latter convince the former that they should grind their face on sandpaper and cut off her nipples because the ugliest she gets, the "better"
mircea_popescu muchly prefers his manly women be manly intellectually.
mircea_popescu: (which reminds me : i once dropped the "how tall are you ? really ?! my god, i didn't know they stacked shit that high" on model chick. great lols were had.)
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 12:20:12; mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234470 << in its own mind the us is always going to be firstest bestest. it ends as the twerps in question die out, britannia also thought itself first bestsest 4evar!! all through the 30s, and the 40s, and the 50s (remember the humiliation they and the french got in egypt, bested by sadat ?) and so on. it died meanwhile through the biological process o
mircea_popescu: there is no way to avoid that. if I ran my platform would also include free university for everyone.
mircea_popescu: the us has painted itself in a corner and there's simply no way out no matter how you approach the matter.
mircea_popescu: "The Southern Poverty Law Center, a non-profit civil rights organization, has described the 'Oath Keepers' as a 'fiercely anti-government, militaristic group,' and St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar condemned their appearance in Ferguson."
shinohai: Pisses off the black activists something awful.
mircea_popescu: but obviously it would. their entire shtick relies on the same "but seen side by side, illustrates why some go for mutilation".
mircea_popescu: for the entire nonsense to work, ordinary people must perforce perceive there is "nothing else on the meny"
mircea_popescu: otherwise, in an open market, the "activist" is middling to low tier camwhore.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform problem being that who are they going to fire on then
assbot: creditmoney comments on "I switched to bitcoinxt to protest today incident" … "Do it because it's good for Bitcoin" ... (
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mircea_popescu: they have run out of softer targets. there's no "untermenschen" they COULD conquer
mircea_popescu: even if the untermenschen were all on vacation leaving the unterwomenschen behind and the doors open
mircea_popescu: "I'll ask your opinion on it again next time you have a transaction you need to process in a hurry and the mempool is 5 MB."
mircea_popescu: uhh.,... what, "and i'll spend a quarter and not have a problem" ?
mircea_popescu: and then you want clinton to do anything but make it free ?
mircea_popescu: "I disagree that I should have to pay in bitcoin or cpu time to get what I want."
shinohai: I drew my conclusion funkenstein_ it promotes dogecoin so scummy
mircea_popescu: i suppose the sticking point is that you for some reason project unrelated matter on it.
mircea_popescu: but in point of fact no higher learning has happened in the us in two decades at least.
mircea_popescu: this comes with the territory, living in the united states of kindergarten.
mircea_popescu: they're the negro slaves of the new, certifiedly non-racist regime. they, just like the previous negro slaves, eat "for free". in exchange, they may not own property, have no disposition of their bodies, and have to do "work"
mircea_popescu: the work they currently do is about as economically useful as handpickingf cotton, for the record.
mircea_popescu: you know, the little discussed secrtet, is that at the time "blacks were enslaved", poor, independent minded whites lived in just about the same conditions throughout the slaveowning states.
shinohai: Did not the Ottomans enslave whites as well?
mircea_popescu: the arabs and the turks preferred black men for labour and white women for ... belabour.
mircea_popescu: which is why "arap" in romanian means black, in the sense of negro slave. because the turks called them "arabs"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, has survived, a proper thing to wish for the bride at wedding throughout musliv world is "may your kids be light skinned"
shinohai: I can see why if all they got were the same whiny white Xstians we have here in the US today.
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 14:06:11; mircea_popescu: which is why "arap" in romanian means black, in the sense of negro slave. because the turks called them "arabs"
mircea_popescu: ^ super-famous literary work, title works on the contradiction of "White Negro Slave"
mircea_popescu: and moor is nonsense. it literally means "the white nigger"
mircea_popescu: recorded in 1877. part of early school curricula all through early 90s
mircea_popescu: in any case. the "slave" sense is more marked than the "black" sense in there.
funkenstein_: mircea_popescu, do you know why white people can't jump?
funkenstein_: I just read great book "of water and the spirit". Dagara youth taken by French missionaries, when he returns he is "too white" to be part of his villiage, forgot his language, etc.
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ i'm very vaguely following the black culture stuff, mostly on the grounds that i don't believe it is sterile / doesn't carry much import. so i have nfi. but srsly, you saying the theme is really projected rather than locally brewed ?
funkenstein_: i just can't really follow because it seems the terms are not clear.
mircea_popescu: the expression "white men can't jump", as an artefact, which it is. comes, as far as i know, from actual black people, as a local creation. like the word "trayvon". not from white people, as a projection.
funkenstein_: lol :) I absolutely recommend the book though, Malidoma Patrice Somé is the author
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mod6: hey, if i build rotor-TEST2 on say gentoo, and someone else builds the same whole thing on debian, we get the same number of output bytes in the bin, but the checksums are different, seem to be some offset differences.
mod6: seems to be some opcode diffs, i.e. deb 0x25 always is changed out for gentoo 0x12 ...
ascii_field: and srsly do i have to do everything myself
ascii_field: 'If we determine as part of our analysis that scan results could only have come from reverse engineering (in at least one case, because the report said, cleverly enough, “static analysis of Oracle XXXXXX”), we send a letter to the sinning customer, and a different letter to the sinning consultant-acting-on-customer’s behalf – reminding them of the terms of the Oracle license agreement that preclude
ascii_field: reverse engineering, So Please Stop It Already.' << glorious
ascii_field: to borrow mircea_popescu's observation from last year, these folks are just ~begging~ to be boiled in oil
mod6: <+ascii_field> and srsly do i have to do everything myself << i might not be viewing the differences correctly .. so what I said above might not be correct.
ascii_field: disasm and diff, betcha it'll make a good blog post
ascii_field: why is mircea_popescu convinced that the oracle thing is a sham ?
mircea_popescu: btw, it might please you to find that in the woirld simulation that is eulora, licensing agreements appeared within the first month.
ascii_field: which is to say, from the bottom of the pile, were it sorted
ascii_field: the ant catalogue ('godsurge' etc) ~wasn't~ from snowden
ascii_field: the rest of the idiocy - typical, like the sample
assbot: Logged on 29-07-2015 03:51:50; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: circumstantial; based on out-of-phase release time, and the content (uncensored) and formatting (full text memos, with technical detail, rather than idiot powerpoint)
mod6: ok, yeah offsets, not opcodes:
mod6: - 40259e: 48 81 ff 50 25 ac 00 cmp $0xac2550,%rdi
mod6: + 40259e: 48 81 ff 50 12 ac 00 cmp $0xac1250,%rdi
mod6: that kinda 25 <=> 12 happens a bunch
ascii_field: 'Q. Why are you going after consultants the customer hired? The consultant didn’t sign the license agreement! A. The customer signed the Oracle license agreement, and the consultant hired by the customer is thus bound by the customer’s signed license agreement. Otherwise everyone would hire a consultant to say (legal terms follow) “Nanny, nanny boo boo, big bad consultant can do X even if the customer can’t!”'
mircea_popescu: "More like, "I do not need you to analyze the code since we already do that, it's our job to do that, we are pretty good at it, we can -- unlike a third party or a tool -- actually analyze the code to determine what's happening and at any rate most of these tools have a close to 100 percent false positive rate so please do not waste our time on reporting little green men in our code. I am not running away from our resp
mircea_popescu: onsibilities to customers, merely trying to avoid a painful, annoying, and mutually-time wasting exercise," the CSO writes.
mircea_popescu: but lulzy at the legal nonsense they're sprouting. my consultant can do whatever the fuck he pleases.
mod6: i'll post the diff so you can take a peek when you have a chance ascii_field
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: these folks are at the stage where they openly expect to be able to use law as lettre de cachet
ascii_field: when you break something, it is broken for everyone
ascii_field: btw in case this wasn't obvious, the original article is memoryholed into oblivion
ascii_field: nobody disclaimed the idiocies, but oracle would like to pretend that no one said them in a single convenient place.
mircea_popescu: incidentally - the attitude towards stuff like this is becoming the premiere marker of dishonest folk.
mircea_popescu: does it have an "acceptable use policy" ? it's a bunch of scumbags.
ascii_field: they thought they finally got their wet dream
mircea_popescu: yeah. it's the clear mark of the "nationalist", aka socialist, libertard - generally speaking idiot.
ascii_field: in the age of newsprint, this was messy, unreliable
mircea_popescu: he whose personality is entirely fictitious has trouble groking the permanence of reality.
mircea_popescu: "we could call it something else" "so you could" "that'd matter right ?" "no."
ascii_field: mod6: i can tell immediately that most of it is displacement
mircea_popescu: - 400163:e8 ed eb 39 00 callq 0x79ed55 + 400163:e8 ef eb 39 00 callq 0x79ed57
mircea_popescu: they all seem one byte offset sort of things like this.
ascii_field: e.g., cmp 0x407451(%rip),%rdi vs cmp 0x4074d1(%rip),%rdi
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: no, it is what i said before
ascii_field: naturally shit gotta be scrubbed prior to linking
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2015#1234555 << i was reading a "book" written by some romanian twerp who thinks himself famous (stand up comedian / singer), sent to me by retired whore (really, if you whore and can't retire by 25 or so, you're too stupid to live) of my generation, for the purpose of "see mr p, i told you the kids are fucktarded". ie, kids, the next set.
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 08:41:27; shinohai: No one wants to *do* anything BingoBoingo, they like instant validation you get by repeating whatever someone says on r/bitcoin now.
mircea_popescu: holy shit is the thing stupid. paragraphs have visible training wheels on them
mircea_popescu: "ambrosia" is explained in the text, because for retards.
mircea_popescu: that said, i can admire the guy for taking the time to do what really amounts to daycare for mentally retarded adults. but the thing itself is in-fucking-credible.
mircea_popescu: the whole thing reads like literotica is too advanced now, and it needs rewriting in simpler words with simplified story arcs.
mircea_popescu: and with better reinforcement throughout reinforcement throughout hello there, how goes it, we were talking about story arcs, you know, like bows hehehe, but reinforced throguhout throughout reinforced ps. this was a paragraph, and you read it well done !
mircea_popescu: i am guessing romanian will have to move to a 3 to 4 letters per word mode soon or else it may go out of print.
mircea_popescu: you know if i ever impregnate an isis fighter i'ma name her kid Rite Rait Al'Right.
mircea_popescu: (btw, if your oral english is your slave not your master, your reading of the name distinguishes the three phonemes. because they are fucking distinct in english omfg)
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mircea_popescu: "I have been putting up ads on backpage letting people know I can teach about and sell them bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: I got a lot of responses, but you know what? I now understand why all of these women are hookers and i don't feel bad for them in the least. They are aggressive, flaky and dont want to understand what is happening around them. All I have been getting is women asking me for free bitcoin to buy their "medication". Its life and death apparently.
mircea_popescu: this goes not-so-badly with the earlier link of dooglus' attempt to resurect the mpoe-pr visits the whore forum thing.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why anglos have conflated whoredom and beggary.
mircea_popescu: it's not unlike conflating computer programming and autism, or bewing the runt in a family litter and being the politician.
mircea_popescu: why does anglo conflate so much and so stupidly ? is it because the 3-4 letter words universe ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it is because, proximately, they picked the 'make'em stupid' school of mass management
mircea_popescu: italian whores were accomplished throughout, like japanese whores.
mircea_popescu: english whores were mostly retarded, like chinese whores.
mircea_popescu: (notable exceptions, here and there, which shows it's not racial but fashio-cultural and fucktardinal)
ascii_field: possibly because ~their~ ruling class was... straight
mircea_popescu: italians ? straight ?! those rotinculo ? dun make me laugh, i might fart myself.
mircea_popescu: in any case : the "many users" problem doesn't even need to be approached at the "hey, we need their spam allowed in the blocks more".
mircea_popescu: the bigger problem is that bitcoin coallesces. they won't HAVE any.
ascii_field: going for the mircea_popescu-and-five-phriends model ?
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 09:27:34; punkman: they gotta manage everything "The midpoint for the yuan is now set at 6.2298 to $1, up from 6.1162 yuan on Monday. The People's Bank of China (POBC) manages the rate through the official midpoint, from which trade can rise or fall 2% on any given day."
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 08:56:46; BingoBoingo: When the last pre-0.8 wedge came through I suspected it was a BDB issue but alf was the one to euthanize it at the root.
mircea_popescu: "The Trotskyist is AGAINST Stalin just as the Communist is FOR him, and, like the majority of Communists, he wants not so much to alter the external world as to feel that the battle for prestige is going in his own favour."
mircea_popescu: heh. i suppose the widespread metanonsense is why people are so lost when confronted with groups utterly disinterested in prestige,
ascii_field: 'Congress passed the Protect Act after the Supreme Court struck down a broader law prohibiting any visual depictions of minors engaged in sexual activity, including computer-generated imagery and other fakes. The high court ruled that the ban was too broad, and could cover legitimate speech, including Hollywood productions.
ascii_field: In response, the Protect Act narrows the prohibition to cover only depictions that the defendant’s community would consider “obscene.”' << vintage l0l
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ascii_field: do x in nyc, walk; do x in iowa - fed prison
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33845 @ 0.0006085 = 20.5947 BTC [+]
phf: ben_vulpes:
http://paste.lisp.org/display/152828#1 << read-sequence reads octets (i.e. unsigned bytes) into an array, so you want (make-array size :element-type '(unsigned-byte 8)) and you also want to then explicitly convert an octet array into a string. later is implementation dependent (since concerns encodings, etc.), ccl has DECODE-STRING-FROM-OCTETS and sbcl OCTETS-TO-STRING, both support encodings. since version is ascii, a naive converte
phf: r might look like (string-right-trim '(#\Null) (map 'string 'code-char command))
phf: ben_vulpes:
http://dpaste.com/2Q2YKDB << so we were poking at gernika yesterday and it looks like CS didn't fully build. i'll take a look at his "successful" cs build log today, and see what comes up
phf: *with gernika rather
assbot: Logged on 21-10-2014 01:30:35; asciilifeform: 'As progressively dumber programmers build progressively more complex systems we will see more of this kind of attempt to paper over coding mistakes with lawyers, sanctions, policies, and laws. Hollywood and the RIAA are usually the most successful at getting the government to do their bidding. Thus I predict that one day Disney will have a Web site where you can buy access to any of their movies.
mod6: ascii_field: for people who'd like to build rotor w/stator or rotor w/TEST2 on i386/i686, is there anything special that they would need to do to this file? rotor_buildroot_dot_config
mod6: comment out: "BR2_ARCH_IS_64=y" ? and set "BR2_i386=y" +
mod6: oh ok will look thx.
hanbot: shinohai: hanbot compiled pogo ? O.o << nein. have built stator "manually" as of last night, tho still need to verify runs as expected, after which will put together notes. have not pogo-ed, rotor trial to come. (ubuntu 10.04 32bit + mod6's gracious help)
☟︎ shinohai: the new rotor script mod6 and I tried this weekend past is so easy a redditard could do it
shinohai: gofundme.com/gethanbota64bitcomputer
hanbot: hehe i have plenty. they're not available for testing stuff on. craptop, otoh....
shinohai: I love craptops. I did buy 2 surplus lappys last year for btc tho
trinque: pointless, useless compromise
shinohai: Nary a shred of *actual logic (tm)* to be found.
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trinque: "According to Pasi M??enranta because "the people" happily let Google and Facebook track them with smartphones there's no way this could be considered an invasion of privacy by citizens."
trinque: clearly the Nordic system is on the cutting edge, here.
ascii_field: shinohai: recent hearn (nsa) gambit. there's very little the amorphous masses love more than 'omg1111!!! censored!!'
trinque: I expect to hear in a few years how backward America is because we don't yet have the chip system.
ascii_field: which lucky nord (can we call'em nords?) will be the first to be carved up for his dog tag ?
shinohai: We don't need chips, nsa owns yer cellphones.
shinohai: Every 'murican has one glued to them nearly 24/7
ascii_field: ^ 'what good is a phone call when you have no mouth' (tm) (r)
ascii_field: at any rate, the art of human collar-making has not stood still! iirc the saudis even hold a patent on proper bomb-n-shock-n-gps collar
ascii_field: like in the film 'deadlock' but moar internety.
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ascii_field: also pictured in, iirc, film 'cloud atlas'
mats: 'cloud atlas' was 5/10
ascii_field: thestringpuller: linked picture was from it.
ascii_field: the scene where the robotic cockroach is implanted
thestringpuller: the last time I opened a link here at work was from MP and yea...awkward...
trinque: meh, one on the right's got some weird going on with her actual equipment iirc
trinque: mircea_popescu: thought I saw a warty looking thing in a scene with her
trinque: this, my brain decided to file away for important moments such as now
mircea_popescu: "While many people are excited about the prospect of the first woman president, I think that a Hillary Clinton presidency will be another in a long series of triumphs for white, corporate feminism and defeats for racial justice."
mircea_popescu: For her part, noted feminist Gloria Steinem said (in 2008) that she supported Clinton over Barack Obama because, “Black men were given the vote a half-century before women of any race were allowed to mark a ballot, and generally have ascended to positions of power, from the military to the boardroom, before any women…”
mircea_popescu: "today i will drink mumm instead of cliquot, because german froth is so much later!"
mircea_popescu: "Katherine van Wormer Professor of Social Work University of Northern Iowa"
mircea_popescu: As for the “lesser of two evils” argument, I just have to quote from Ijeoma Oluo who was saying earlier:
shinohai: I have heard "papi" quite a bit, usually from Mexican escorts.
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mats: boy band. 'One Direction'
trinque: every moronic thing has an "us" you can join these days
trinque: click here to join the burrito bandwagon!
mircea_popescu: but yes, he's right. obama has managed to put the us in the worst position of all
ascii_field: 'Over five years, two computer hackers living in Ukraine broke into U.S. newswire services including Business Wire and PRNewswire and stole more than 100,000 press releases for publicly traded companies before their release. Those documents, which included earnings data, were distributed to a network of traders who used the advance knowledge to buy or sell securities based on how they anticipated the market would react to
ascii_field: the announcements, according to the Securities and Exchange Commission complaint.'
mircea_popescu: “The reality of the situation is that the U.S. dollar hasn’t been this strong in decades. The thought that it could be replaced as a reserve currency is laughable at this point on a geopolitical basis and nothing in the Iran deal even remotely touches upon that issue,” he added.
trinque: and that's according to their bullshit numbers
mircea_popescu: " Obama has never ruled out military force if negotiations failed"
mircea_popescu: "Thanks for your comment, dumspirospero! I appreciate your appreciation of the post."
mircea_popescu: i hereby validate one derp's appreciation of the other derp's appreciation of the first derp's appreciations on issues she doesn't understand and wasn't really asked about.
mircea_popescu: anyone care to appreciate my validation so we can make it a social media ?
trinque: mircea_popescu: I appreciate the opportunity to take part in this meta-appreciation. upboated, or something
trinque: I can feel a consensus building already
trinque: I bet gloria steinem has one
mircea_popescu: “White folks was in caves while we was building empires… We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.”
trinque: doesn't sound like a very sharp guy if you ask me
mircea_popescu: how exactly did some us black guy get his "we" to include i presume egyptians, which weren't black while he wasn't in africa, is anyone's guess.
☟︎ ascii_field: mircea_popescu: this particular delusion is known to have originated with a particular academitard, but his name escapes me
mircea_popescu: i suppose they got numbers from the indians while they were exploring zanzibar
ascii_field: soviet elephants are the biggest elephants (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: the island 50 miles off the coast which you can see on a clear day, but which the mud packing philosophers and astrologo-mathematicians of a certain complexion failed to find,
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> mircea_popescu: this particular delusion is known to have originated with a particular academitard, but his name escapes me << Actually harder to pin down. Variations had been going on in Black Christian circles since the early 1800's at least, but Nation of Islam really brought this crazy to the mainstream
ascii_field: was speaking of ancient egypt specifically
mircea_popescu: fwiw, thjere's a contingent of deranged romanians who believe zamolxis taught the romans to read.
mircea_popescu: every group lays the same pretense. irrespective of the justification. much like every absoute monarchy sooner or later got around to deriving the monarch from the sun
mircea_popescu: poor star had no fucking idea how many women it had impregnated, from paris to shanghai
shinohai: I think my favorite Al Sharptonism is "Jewing the numbers"
trinque: is that like... counting with them?
mircea_popescu: more like making them come out to him being a parasite.
gernika: BingoBoingo was there not a Nubian dynasty that ruled Egypt at some point? Apparently lasted 75 years?
trinque: what's this, trap supremacy?
mircea_popescu: i suppose the theory is that "italians have forgotten how to sing and only french royal comedy institute knows anymore"
mircea_popescu: actual argument, in actual debate, at the time of diderot & co
trinque goes to code in a van down by the river
trinque: more like vw, and more like next to it, but whatever!
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shinohai: And I just got delivered a fifth of some kind of brandy.