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asciilifeform: it prolly aint lang barrier -- recall, they saw phuctor and translated, correctly, and even avoided swallowing boeck etc
asciilifeform: not even boeck's 10min perl thing, but finally a http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-19#1615434 job ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'seclist' lulzfest linked specifically for the laugh where some boeck figure loses his shit because some 'traitor' didn't wait the requisite 14days usg wanted etc
asciilifeform: starfish is getting broad daylight waltzing, no way to boeck around the fact.
mircea_popescu: not anymore than anyone over at alphabet gives a shit about the misadventures of amstan ; or anyone at redhat about the new hole in boeck's ass, or etc.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-10#1822087 << see also. i'd be surprised if there isn't already a boeck-style 'rebuttal' (perhaps from herr boeck himself) in the works. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( their phuctor filter is esp lulzy, gives not null but specifically ancient stale pages, boeck's 'rebuttal', reddit. etc )
mircea_popescu: /2015/heres-what-they-dont-tell-you-when-they-bring-you-those-papers-to-sign/ sense of choice) : either he picks "someone", where someone is defined as ~one of them~, some boeck or other, in which case, "here's an article by the boeck ~you picked~ saying ~you're wrong" ; or else VERY BAD AND WE WILL ALL SHAKE OUR HEAD AND PRETEND LIKE YOU DID UNSPEAKABLE WRONGS
mircea_popescu: in this sense i suppose djb is a boneh, though i don't like how he runs his harem ; wheras yuk dude is a boeck.
mircea_popescu: i suppose as far as the orcs are concerned, it's mostly a boneh-or-boeck distinction.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-14 13:30 asciilifeform: ^ pretty lulzy prehistory -- usg is burning the vuln in the most traditional way, complete with 'responsible disclosure'ism and a boeck-style 'researcher' ; nao spinning in every propaganda organ in unison as 'pgp broken!'
asciilifeform: the footnotes of the 'paper', also lulzy, full of marlinspike, boeck, etc. 'why pgp is dead' articles
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ^ pretty lulzy prehistory -- usg is burning the vuln in the most traditional way, complete with 'responsible disclosure'ism and a boeck-style 'researcher' ; nao spinning in every propaganda organ in unison as 'pgp broken!' << Apparently @hanno has a take on this too that sums to the rest of the party line "who could be using this with hygeine?"
asciilifeform: ^ pretty lulzy prehistory -- usg is burning the vuln in the most traditional way, complete with 'responsible disclosure'ism and a boeck-style 'researcher' ; nao spinning in every propaganda organ in unison as 'pgp broken!' ☟︎
lobbes: in other lulz: observe one hanno boeck in his natural habitat, one day before being called up for muppet duty, still doing... nothing >> http://archive.is/c8epK
asciilifeform: just when i was about to think 'where is boeck! has he died'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: make boeck work for his pay, why not.
asciilifeform: the one where 'boeck confirms, not true!' etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd like to make some sort of non-debiable/unhealable hole in the boeck bubble, and it almost seems possible in this case
mircea_popescu: eh, who the fuck cares what boecks boeck.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: evidently he also slept through boeck's week-long shilling for craig wright, followed by 'unhappening', or would at least start scratching head when prodded
asciilifeform: specifically to ~prevent~ folx such as zx2c4 from hearing about e.g. phuctor, or other actual attempts at experiment, and if they hear -- from taking seriously. 'boeck did it in 2007' 'but did he publish a divisor?' 'uhhhh'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect that the fella still labours under the impression that boeck et al are the 'authorities' , sitting in judgement of ~us~ , and that it is we who must somehow prove beyond reasonable doubt that they lie
zx2c4: well boeck isnt an academic
asciilifeform: zx2c4: pay and written orders are not a necessary hypothesis. fact of the matter is that you do not get to ~become~ 'a nadia' or 'a boeck' unless you behave 'like a civilized academic' and do what is expected of you, without being asked.
mircea_popescu: that fraud does not usually get punished by the "legal system" does not mean either boeck or pirate are respectable items.
mircea_popescu: hanno boeck, some chick named nirdlinger or nirflinger or whatever and some other schmucks lied for years about having done research they never actually did.
a111: 74 results for "boeck", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=boeck
asciilifeform: !#s boeck
asciilifeform: debug of herr boeck, grade-a imperial политтехнолог ( how does that even go in engl ? )
asciilifeform: possibly because did not trigger the boeck immune cells
asciilifeform: in contrast with, e.g., a boeck : who is 'technically' flavoured ( i.e. mouthpiece for dropping vulns usg wants 'burned' )
asciilifeform: ^ and oblig hanno boeck.
asciilifeform: and apparently these particular derps read the l0gz every fucking day, in search of what to steal and what to boeck over.
asciilifeform: and boeck, a герой советского союза or sumthing.
asciilifeform: tomorrow's noose: 'nadia henninger and hanno boeck rescue ten thousand insecure solar...'
asciilifeform: boeck aha
asciilifeform: i recommend to reread mircea_popescu's 2parter re boeck.
asciilifeform: were you there for the seclist thread with boeck, Framedragger ?
Framedragger: but also a useful reminder that scanz done here are not original, and it's not an instance of "this was done before, whoops no data to show there." (ironically took a look at censys.io due to https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/262.pdf (hanno boeck's article))
asciilifeform: also buncha hanno boeck reposts.
mircea_popescu: hanno boeck is not some sort of journalist, and generally speaking nobody has any ground to stand on ~whatsoever~. at all.
mircea_popescu: whatever, they'll be left with boeck and supran tweeting to one another, no great loss
mircea_popescu: the only hostis humani generis are the anonymous usg tools. the gavin-koch-weimer-boeck-younameit.
mircea_popescu: see the discussion of boeck's alleged "contributions" etc.
asciilifeform: boeck, schneier, the other scum, they -- know
asciilifeform: devoted readers of boeck, henninger, et al
asciilifeform: boeck himself does this ~weekly
asciilifeform: naturally it is possible to distinguish, e.g., lamport, from boeck.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/7aEnx << in unrelated olds. where hanno boeck was 3 yrs ago.
asciilifeform: https://gnupg.org/blog/20160921-openpgp-conf.html << boeck's crud apparently unpublished
mircea_popescu: quite. i for one am not the least bit against things boeck-working for the boecks.
asciilifeform: it only needs to boeck-work.
asciilifeform: such that when, e.g., we publish one, they can boeck it.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 09:39 mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#37 << one wonders, of course, if hanno boeck ( http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ ) is stuck in an airport somewhere furiously editing his speech on his "research" which entirely consists of repackaging material published by the republic for his dorky friends with internet / mental disabilities. or whether they'll just publish an incomplete list and pretend no
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#37 << one wonders, of course, if hanno boeck ( http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ ) is stuck in an airport somewhere furiously editing his speech on his "research" which entirely consists of repackaging material published by the republic for his dorky friends with internet / mental disabilities. or whether they'll just publish an incomplete list and pretend no ☟︎
asciilifeform: in other noose, boeck delivers!1111 >> https://threatpost.com/number-of-devices-sharing-private-crypto-keys-up-sharply/120379 << guess of what there is 0 mention, etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 18:58 asciilifeform: boeck et al is to reduce the risk that taleb shows up here. etc
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-08#1537558 << as you'll note in http://www.contravex.com/2016/02/29/waiting-for-taleb/ , taleb isn't here for ~cultural~ reasons. not usgkultur either, but his proudly flashed mediterranean levantine orthodox roots. boeck has as much influence on this as antelope have on italian soda fizziness. ☝︎
asciilifeform: boeck et al is to reduce the risk that taleb shows up here. etc ☟︎
asciilifeform: which is what boeck et al are for.
asciilifeform: http://blog.sec-consult.com/2016/09/house-of-keys-9-months-later-40-worse.html << herr boeck drops privkeys : 'The data we are publishing consists of 331 certificates including the matching private key as well as 553 individual private keys. We've also included the names of products that contain the certificates/keys. Cryptographic keys that were not found in Internet-wide scan data (Scans.io and Censys.io, HTTPS/SSH) are included as
asciilifeform: elsewhere: esteemed mr boeck burns^H^H^H^H^Hdiscovers https://github.com/hannob/fritzbox-keys
asciilifeform: and does anyone else find it lulzy that boeck's talk is 15m long ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do not regard the now-explicit cooperation of koch with boeck as uninteresting.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: eh, betcha hanno boeck et al are already nearly done cooking up a 'we've been surveying bad ssh keygen for 111 years' crock of shit
asciilifeform: i can hardly wait for the hanno boeck post.
asciilifeform pictures boeck, poor idiot, waking up at 4 in the morning, called to do his dooooty
asciilifeform: expect to see moar butthurt scampering a la boeck et al.
asciilifeform: if boeck had posted same pile, mircea_popescu would immediately recognize it as 'burning old holes'
asciilifeform: (consider how boeck was grown. and used.)
asciilifeform: 'there was no finding. and oh incidentally hanno boeck found the finding. and hey there was no finding.'
asciilifeform: 'it never happened, and, oh, incidentally, hanno boeck! and hey craigwright is satoshi, and hey, big blox! and it never happened.'
asciilifeform: and hanno boeck also posts all day long to mailing list, with 'bug reports' (burned usg vulns)
asciilifeform: because It Never Happened! And If It Did, We Had It First! And Better! And Hanno Boeck! And Who Were Those Terrorists Again?
asciilifeform: well when instead of 'boeck said...' i say 'the lizard octopus proclaimed via one of its tentacles...' folks laugh.
asciilifeform: to whom tmsr folk are 'extremist crackots' with (direct quote) 'obvious signs of mental illness', and hanno boeck is a pillar of the komyooniti.
asciilifeform: then there is the 'do-ocrat', as exemplified by boeck, who 'has done SO MUCH for the komoyoonity! and who are you again pigfucker to question his guiding light'
asciilifeform: bbbbutt boeck HIMSELF vouched for shitoshi!!1111
asciilifeform: i do wonder how a boeck is paid - per word? for 'result' ?
asciilifeform: lel boeck replies.
asciilifeform: ahahahaha mircea_popescu 'killed' boeck, so guess who gets to be the new boeck, https://www.wired.com/2016/07/meet-moxie-marlinspike-anarchist-bringing-encryption-us
mircea_popescu: hanno boeck ( http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ ) definitely hoax. turkish "coup", not hoax - major usg.dos success. as far as those go these days.
mircea_popescu: nono, that never happened. hanno boeck published it first!
mircea_popescu: ever more stuff for the "it never happened and hanno boeck did it anyway" machine.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: boeck is busy elsewhere, http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2016/q2/563
BingoBoingo: hanno boeck is for shitgnomming GPG, other shitgnomes for this
mircea_popescu: lol conspicuously missing, the hanno boeck "i already had published this nowhere" angle.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger "the lie", you know. which is why hanno boeck ( http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ ) et al went all in for the "nothing happened". derps are by and large conditioned to "think" that nothing happened because nothing happens because nothing can happen because nothing happened because...
mircea_popescu: i'm sure hanno boeck had it in his list.
asciilifeform: (and aha the good doktor boeck knew all along!1111)
asciilifeform: ^ mr mold gets the hanno boeck treatment
ben_vulpes: boeck's going to show up with all of the keys and a backdated modulus or two now
asciilifeform: the sheer stench of 'official science' in boeck's answer!
hanbot: for the record, it's not just phuctor that your friend Boeck [could have done] did. See also [could have] found Heartbleed: http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2015/04/07/7
asciilifeform: but that boeck is the ~perp~, laughing at us.
asciilifeform: i wonder, how did he pick ~which~ 186 of our mods to boeck over.
asciilifeform: this year's boeck reluctantly, grudgingly, ran the fucking proggy
asciilifeform: ah yeah last year's boeck
asciilifeform: boeck took henninger's thing and ran it