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fromdeedbot: if a new internet is built and a pgp key is mandatory, and everyone is on the new internet..
fromdeedbot: Requirment of a pgp key to become a part of a new web built on trust and accountability
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 13:43 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812141 << phuctor was written very tightly around indexing pgp keys, and demands that all keys be indexable in the same ways ( by e.g. gpg-compat fingerprint ) . additionally , it demands that all keys have a human-readable legend, and ssh key format does not give any field for such.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812141 << phuctor was written very tightly around indexing pgp keys, and demands that all keys be indexable in the same ways ( by e.g. gpg-compat fingerprint ) . additionally , it demands that all keys have a human-readable legend, and ssh key format does not give any field for such. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-16 15:34 Framedragger: asciilifeform: unless #3 you meant ssh key to rfc4880 pgp converter (http://siphnos.mkj.lt/datadrop/crap-from-scans-to-be-sorted/ssh-to-pgp.py), but again, prolly not. don't remember seeing any phuctor innards tbh (except for fingerprint algo), but could just be me
asciilifeform: it does not make any sense to attempt to do business with folx who won't pgp
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is also possible that winblowz 'original' pgp eats. but afaik nobody yet tried.
asciilifeform: ( http://ianpurton.com/online-pgp )
mircea_popescu: mother[m], don't you find it difficult to do business without pgp ? i mean... how do you even keep comms secret ?
douchebag: I'll help him get his PGP key setup
mod6: Please send me some pgp-gram info on what/where/when/how.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1808823 << do you mean http://trilema.com/contact-pgp/#comment-125467 guy ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( to clarify ftr : a 'dupe mod' ( listed under /dupes ) is a mod that occurs in two or more distinct (hashwise, rather than fpwise, tho distinct fp is also possible on account of variant exponent under constant mod) pgp keyz.
asciilifeform: trinque: pheature request : tune the rss eater so that if phuctured pop matches the Framedragger pattern , prints as mircea_popescu described; but otherwise (say, classical pgp key pops) the full shebang.
asciilifeform: and incidentally 3rdparties can now curlpost ---BEGIN PGP PUBLIC.... keyolade and get ~realtime output...
douchebag: with all pgp stuff I decrypt
mircea_popescu: but in other good news, trilema discovered the fastest reader alive : http://trilema.com/contact-pgp/#comment-125468
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in what readers think of log, http://trilema.com/contact-pgp/#comment-125425
douchebag: ill take the first four 8 digits of their PGP key
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:34 ascii_lander: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801317 << aaand i betcha this is because they're camwhores, and have nfi what is pgp or even that d00d generated a key for'em at all , and he gave the magicstring over voicechat with the camgurls
ascii_lander: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1801317 << aaand i betcha this is because they're camwhores, and have nfi what is pgp or even that d00d generated a key for'em at all , and he gave the magicstring over voicechat with the camgurls ☝︎☟︎
douchebag: gonna get her pgp setup
douchebag: mircea_popescu I'm talking to thatbitchlola right now, apparently she got paid before she registered her PGP key
mod6: i do have core files available if you request them. will pgp-gram them to you, rather large tho.
mircea_popescu: https://pgp.cs.uu.nl/paths/49fc7012a5de03ae/to/8a736f0e2fb7b452.html in other news.
zx2c4: no, not at all. im also not quite sure what to do with these pgp encrypted blobs i cant decrypt
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793333 << real life sadly is 'less real than cartoon', asciilifeform for instance is still waiting to be gassed for 'exporting' pgp somewhere during clinton reign, or for bolix warez, or for general unpatriotism, or jaywalking... ☝︎
la: !!register -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Comment: User-ID: LALALA <LALALA@fakemail.com> Comment: Created: 3/28/2018 10:44 PM Comment: Type: 2048-bit RSA (secret key available) Comment: Usage: Signing, Encryption, Certifying User-IDs Comment: Fingerprint: 741311C4CD2C31823CD5E41EE677AA7C19F99541 mQENBFq8YSkBCAC8PPWEbi10oYLKZ0x+3kvwZvlzzRyzXArdedKx5jRUgu/VACja Dq5+bGlT7zjISt1eOmAVuraQuGnwlfitigiiE92A4CNclFjw2J0SIM+BXpcFXFbF rev0f0
asciilifeform: douchebag: go ahead and 'socially engineer' people who actually verify the pgp sigs on errything they touch. i'll interestedly watch.
douchebag: It just appears to be way of updating code, pgp signing the updates
mircea_popescu: anyway, you're too hard, too strong and too fast. bear in mind that the best steel cracks under shock and that you yourseld didn't have a pgp key before you made it.
asciilifeform: if a fella who balks at mention of pgp and wot reg , is hosting a trilema mirror, than who knows, anything possible, cats lie with dogs, lions with lambs..
douchebag: is PGP neccessary
mod6: Alright, well, consider getting a PGP key and registering it with deedbot
mod6: Who might you be? You'll want to register a PGP key when you can.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 14:27 ave1: I'll have to think about it, I do not want to make changes that make things more complex for "reasons" and then more complex enzovoorts enzovoorts. And then end up with PGP
ave1: I'll have to think about it, I do not want to make changes that make things more complex for "reasons" and then more complex enzovoorts enzovoorts. And then end up with PGP ☟︎
pete_dushenski: pretty much. 4 years was 4x as long as i'd held a btc in my own wallet. seemed like the world was spinning at a million miles a minute for all i knew pgp keys were as disposable as btc addresses
mircea_popescu: laplinker make a pgp key if you don't have one, !!register and then you'll be able to self-voice once someone rates you
asciilifeform: xahlee: make a pgp key. register with deedbot,
asciilifeform: xahlee: got a pgp key ?
douchebag: Well, the web application would just be for viewing purposes, the PGP operations will still be done via command line. I am quite comfortable writing web apps using Python's Flask web framework
shinohai: (https://www.igolder.com/pgp/generate-key/)
mircea_popescu: these are twenty year olds yo! do you understand ? original "pgp is munitions!!!" lulz happened BEFORE THEY WERE BORN.
caaddr: I don't know if anybody is actually using PGP, now you mention it. outside of the serene republic
caaddr: it would be entertaining/devastating to survey how many users of PGP actually use the extra metadata besides the primes and exponent in the first place
caaddr: because that's what they saw in a LEET PGP guide that somebody wrote in 2003. it's gotta be safe, it's a guide! on the web! copy and paste, try not to think too hard about what's formatting what
asciilifeform: the pgp bbs item ?
asciilifeform still not convinced that it wasn't a psyop, to build up street cred for schneiers . 0 convictions, 0 sentences, for 'pgp smugglers' afaik.
asciilifeform: a number of items in gentoo ports ~did~ have pgp sigs. but none of anybody in my l2 (or 3, or afaik even 4 )
asciilifeform: nao, if we reintroduce checkpoints ( SANE checkpoints : i.e. keccak-of-whole-block-bitwise, rather than merkleism and sha2; and pgp-signed config eaten at boot ) we can have nodes that sync from empty hdd to full in <1day ...
douchebag__: ive been trying to verify this account, accidently provided wrong pgp to the last username
weevlos: !!register https://keybase.io/weev/pgp_keys.asc?fingerprint=b9185b95152960a319100120740941791782b3cd
a111: Logged on 2017-12-15 23:28 asciilifeform: previously specialist in 'stop using pgp' and 'wot dunwork' etc
asciilifeform: a moxie is more of a 'gift of gab' item. writes 'trendy' 'pgp is obsolete' treatises, appears at 'best' parties , inevitably consulted at 'seekooority cons', 'podcasts', inevitably shills for multicoloured-phone-of-the-day vendors, never skips a chance to 'plug for' other moxies ; appeals to boecks for 'technical cred'.
asciilifeform: previously specialist in 'stop using pgp' and 'wot dunwork' etc ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in the meanwhile -- it'd be a very good idea to make yourself a pgp key and register it with deedbot.
phf: mpi is a fraction of what gnupg is, are we then moving away from pgp keys and signatures?
mod6: I understand that sentiment. We discussed this at length. Which is why I actually have a test-vpatch pgp key for that purpose only.
asciilifeform: ate: consider registering a pgp key with deedbot
phf: [2017-12-06 22:12:39 [ERROR]] removing line [-----BEGIN PGP false] but found [-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----]
phf: ------BEGIN PGP false
a111: Logged on 2015-10-14 20:15 asciilifeform: 'p' (draft title) - for the old pgp.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 13:51 asciilifeform: https://pad.riseup.net/p/87Mazw3Jsdfe_pm/timeslider#11 << multistory lul tower. for instance, i had no idea what is 'riseup' until its pgp keys began to pop.
asciilifeform: it's what the pgp-in-js people did. ever try an' read the result ?
wer: i've got the pgp keys
mircea_popescu: a pgp key is something like
rog: how do i connect thru windows then with a pgp?
rog: yes no pgp used the web solution
mircea_popescu: wer i take it you don't have a pgp key ?
mircea_popescu: wer so first off, register your pgp key with deedbot to preserve identity. you do have one yes ?
mircea_popescu: concernedscaling why not make yourself a pgp key and reg with deedbot at that ?
asciilifeform: davout: speaking in general of all even vaguely pgp-like compatibles
a111: Logged on 2017-10-19 07:09 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-19#1726582 << a) this is not factual. you manufacture power chord that only works or doesn't work, through eg http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-12#1724529 ; b) if your power chord came with special rsa analysis and also had a special "flash power when pgp is being used" switch, you'd get into manufacturing your own power chords in very short order.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-19#1726582 << a) this is not factual. you manufacture power chord that only works or doesn't work, through eg http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-12#1724529 ; b) if your power chord came with special rsa analysis and also had a special "flash power when pgp is being used" switch, you'd get into manufacturing your own power chords in very short order. ☝︎☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: or can keep it there, it's safe. DO NOT LOSE YOUR PGP KEY though.
BHopkins: I can confirm 100% chance of newb to PGP
BHopkins: I draw the line at the dark web. bitcoin, PGP, what's next? :)
BHopkins: MP I have a PGP key now...
mircea_popescu: BHopkins well, so get one. no way to do private communications without pgp. also no good way to have an identity online.
mircea_popescu: BHopkins yes. do you know what pgp is ?
BHopkins: @MP no PGP key, do I need one?
mircea_popescu: BHopkins do you have a pgp key ?
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't mind the dood who hacked off rsa from koch pgp and made a server that just passed encrypted comms. that's it.
asciilifeform: in so far as i can tell, none of these items have anything to do with even kochian pgp
asciilifeform: 'pgp'
mircea_popescu: i don't comprehend what the "seizing of server" did for a pgp phone service.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/6Snbe << meanwhile, in the land of the homebrew caesar cipher experts and nsa provocateurs : 'A dizzying number of companies offer these sorts of phones all across the world: Phantom, Global Data, Encrochat, Secure Mobile, PublicPGP, PGPClass, Elite, Fortis Iceland PGP, and many more.'
asciilifeform: and in other scenarios you are in orbit. but that dun mean that pgp is 'for orbit'
asciilifeform: didjaknow, mircea_popescu , apparently ~that's~ what pgp was for... 'remain anonymous'
mircea_popescu: in other olds, http://www.b3rn3d.com/blog/2016/08/17/death-to-pgp/
asciilifeform: ( which is about pgp sigs, rather than where to post drafts, but the abstract item is the same -- how to avoid giving false permanence )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there's a copy at http://loper-os.org/pgp.asc
fromphuctor: about the Phuctor/PGP related things i ask another time
fromphuctor: ah, no nothing related to your affairs yet, so lurker totally... wanted to check pgp on some os and came across phuctor
mircea_popescu: more different now than a second before, apparently it didn't have elaine ou's pgp eithyer, notwithstanding it's on mit sks
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-15#1714800 << might want to reg your pgp key. you have one do you ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ideally, gift the man a used laptop with pgp on it.
mod6: you want to paste everything through '-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----'
ag3nt_zer0: Hello TMSR... trying to implement trb here. What is the proper way to "save the PGP public keys" before placing them in .wot? Do I simply copy the entirety of the text (including -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----) revealed at the link provided by deedbot, place that into a text editor, and then save as .asc?