BingoBoingo: For a chassis either of these would work https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219032 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147180
BingoBoingo: For a power supply this should be sufficient https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151130
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do you have weight specs for either of these ?
phf: "A rack mount case should fit in a standard 19" EIA rack. They call it a 19" rack for a reason. It's not a 19 1/4" rack. The edge of this case's ears are 19 1/4", had to grind them to fit my rack. Also one EIA space..."
phf: first product
phf: 6kg
mircea_popescu: holy hell what
BingoBoingo: Holy shit
mircea_popescu: omfg.
mircea_popescu: Weight 6.4 kg/14 lb (NET) 9.1 kg/20 lb (GROSS)
BingoBoingo: Reading more
mircea_popescu: 6 POINT FOUR! NET!
phf: "It's worth mentioning that out of the 4 of these I've purchased so far, I got one for which the front USB ports are shorted and kill USB devices you plug into it. I lost two flash drives before realizing this was the problem. " second product, lulz. thought that's like random factor in cheap chinese shit
mircea_popescu: dude how fucking long have i been asleep whjat the fuck is this never in my life have i held a mount chassis this heavy ever.
mircea_popescu: so how do you feel about 76.8 kgs worth of chassis phf !
mircea_popescu: !~google snatch "heavy is good... heavy is reliable... if the dc is manned by idiots you can always hit them with it..."
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mircea_popescu: (the power supply is like 3kgs, and that's not fucking avoidable)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im tell you i'm deeply nonplussed that i discover you can't actually rack anything in the dc you reported walked through after renting it and the very fucking day i'm supposed to start ordering parts.
mircea_popescu: wtf have you been doing till now!
shinohai: Build own! https://www.tnutz.com/
mircea_popescu: even if sane chassis were to be found, you can't find weightless power supplies (why exactly the rack provides 220V rather than directly rail is a question for another time ; and why this was't raised as a point at any previous time.) and there's simply no way i can have phf drag 50+ kgs of ~worthless parts across the oceans.
deedbot: << BARKS IN THE WIND - Copa Airlines baggage policy
BingoBoingo: They have empty cabinets on casters ready to go. They have C13 plugs on the power distribution units. I failed to anticipate the hell that would be getting formed sheet metal here. I have apparently not been doing enough investigation into these basic questions. And the quote came late enough that I am probably not going to know until tomorrow if any of the local vendors that just now stated talking are going to keep doing it. I have
BingoBoingo: been trying to find and screen locals that might be useful for anything while staying somewhat sane.
BingoBoingo: And I am feeling right fucked about getting myself here.
BingoBoingo: In this dilemma.
BingoBoingo: In a country that is only avoiding starvation because the Brazilians like doing the Cannabis tourism thing.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> do they ? eat on own power, i mean. or does somebody fill their bowl with kibble, like in argentina << They afford to farm on Brazillian tourists money. How they have the ability to get from there to lifting the fork into their mouths I have increasingly less idea.
ben_vulpes: phf: what's involved in "transporting as cargo"?
phf: ben_vulpes: it's a standard cargo service, separate from flight engagement
phf: i.e. you pack it in a box (300kg max, 70kg each individual box), weigh and measure it, send them a quote. i don't know what the specific prices are
mircea_popescu: it's only available on some lines though, eg that aren't already overloaded with girly underpants.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do you mean c14 ?
BingoBoingo: This gets under ~5 kg at 10.6 lbs https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147250 reviews aren't bad
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: c13
BingoBoingo: The plug that goes into the power supply is the same that goes into the PDU
BingoBoingo: Ah, c13
BingoBoingo: *c14
mircea_popescu: both exist ; so which is it ?
mircea_popescu: at any rate, the only possible moves here seem to be a) phf see if the airline is willing to take a ~100 kgs as cargo ; b) BingoBoingo DO THE RESEARCH tonight, as to b.1) EXACTLY, ~absolutely~ exactly what parts do you actually need and b.2) list of places you could conceivably get it at there, whatever shops. then tomorrow starting 8am you go check all of those. no words, be shown the physical item.
mircea_popescu: nfi how you'll manage to actually pay for anything locally, seeing how you very indolently allowed yourself to be painted into this corner where you have no bank account and can't sell bitcoins, but that's a problem to be tackled later.
mircea_popescu: and bear in fucking mind that the reason http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781846 happened on the 6th at 2am rather than on the 9th at 2am is PRECISELY so that we have this conversation at the latest during the 6th, not during the fucking 9th.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?
mircea_popescu: i have no idea where this cavallier attitude is coming from, but the only thing it'll come to is tears, if the point's not well driven home by now.
mircea_popescu: leaving aside we don't even know what disks we're buying. eg, the rosewill chassis only usefully takes 3.5 inch ones.
BingoBoingo: The point is clear. Making a list. Taking both cameras and extra batteries on the search.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> leaving aside we don't even know what disks we're buying. eg, the rosewill chassis only usefully takes 3.5 inch ones. << 2.5 to 3.5 shims are on the list
mircea_popescu: (most ssds are 2.5". will you need adaptors ? THAT sort of thing)
BingoBoingo: Do we have a quantity on drives?
BingoBoingo: 1, 2, 3, or more per machine?
mircea_popescu: the idea was some 2 some 4, so 36 in total.
mircea_popescu is trying not to think of the obvious point that if he's buying by the dozen he's supposed to be getting fucking discounts.
shinohai: http://archive.is/QT5gc "How Socialism Ruined Latin America"
BingoBoingo: 36 it is
mircea_popescu: yes but 36 whats lol.
BingoBoingo: SSD's over 500 GB in size. If they go in phf's bag Samsung. On my list I am asking every store what they have if they have it.
shinohai: Bwahahahaha "California Assemblywoman Who Championed #MeToo Movement Accused of Groping Former Staffer"
ben_vulpes: "hoist upon own petard"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nevermind asking for ssds locally, it's not worth it.
BingoBoingo: ok
mircea_popescu: what you want is everything else you might need, other than boards/cpus/rams/disks.
mircea_popescu: all the cheap heavy shit that's not really worth courriering.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/08/bbisp-shopping-and-shops-list-for-exploring/ << Bingo Blog - BBisp Shopping And Shops List For Exploring
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ct16g3r186dm specifically. it's not simply "ddr 3". it's actually 1866, these things matter.
mircea_popescu: and of course mind the "limit x per customer" bullshit. and so on.
mircea_popescu: (in other lulz, the price of that thing went up about 15% since it was first mentioned. hurr durr.)
pete_dushenski: !!register http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/OaneH/?raw=true
deedbot: E6625CC14638C4CA404694E9165749929F9A6BDD is already registered as pete_dushenski.
pete_dushenski: hm. so as not to flail further, how do i update my pubkey ? trinque ?
pete_dushenski: !#s expiration
a111: 181 results for "expiration", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=expiration
trinque: why in the fuck are people still using expiration?
trinque: pete_dushenski: is your key at least not yet expired?
pete_dushenski: trinque: expires on the 11th. lol didn't know better back in 2014 when mp said 'get in wot yo'
trinque: drop it my way and I'll get it in there tomorrow
trinque: heh, "hm I better set this to a long time"
trinque: I can see it
pete_dushenski: pretty much. 4 years was 4x as long as i'd held a btc in my own wallet. seemed like the world was spinning at a million miles a minute for all i knew pgp keys were as disposable as btc addresses
pete_dushenski: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/OaneH/?raw=true << updated key here, trinque. or do you need it sent another way ?
pete_dushenski: thx for helping out with this
trinque: that works
trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/uaMr1/?raw=true << still has an expiration.
pete_dushenski: trinque: looking into it. not sure what i missed.
pete_dushenski: trinque: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/AQ0bW/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo ct16g3r186dm specifically. it's not simply "ddr 3". it's actually 1866, these things matter. << Lists updated headed out the door in a few minutes http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/08/bbisp-shopping-and-shops-list-for-exploring/
shinohai: Suerte BingoBoingo !
mircea_popescu: phf http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/nQBR2/?raw=true
mod6: mornin' TMSR~
shinohai: Heya mod6 .... feelin' better?
mod6: meh. I guess so.
mod6: How 'bout you?
shinohai: Feel much better today, still rather tired but that is easily addressed.
mod6: I think I'm in the same boat. Better, but tired.
lobbes: I've been waiting for this flu to finally get me. Charlotte is supposedly one of the 'most infected' cities atm, but I've lucked out thus far
mod6: yeah, hide.
BingoBoingo: I have found 1 (they may have two more in their warehouse but they aren sure of their condition, but did see one in the store mounted in a rack they had on display) 2U rackmount chassis. They want 246 USD for each 2U case, after the cash discount. They promised an itemized quote on the rest of the heavy shit shopping list later today. Firm is Technolyn S.A. (They are closed Monday and Tuesday next week for Carnival, hoping they can put
BingoBoingo: shit together for a Wednesday morning pickup)) Returning to the businesses that weren't yet open this morning when I first passed them, and then the longer shots... and listening for more referrals. Just might be able to get the count up to 12 cases.
BingoBoingo: But a substantial number of the stores are closed forever.
BingoBoingo: Blog post coming after more visits.
shinohai: http://archive.is/wGU2a <<< By now, I'm convinced Pieter Wuille wants to reduce the blockchain to "Yeah, you sent some shit or something"
mod6: Pantsuit University
TomServo: Relatedly, https://www.blockstream.com/2018/01/19/blockstream-bids-farewell-to-gregory-maxwell.html (won't archive)
asciilifeform: shinohai: witness the inevitable dan boneh
asciilifeform: !#s boneh
a111: 26 results for "boneh", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=boneh
asciilifeform: ^ usg's premier public pusher of elaborately-braindamaged pseudocrypto
shinohai: Seems like a perfect partnership then.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-04-02#1084135 <<< bwahahahaha! ok I do remember these lulz now.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-04-02 14:58 asciilifeform: 'Boneh, in joint work with Matt Franklin, constructed a novel pairing-based method for identity-based encryption (IBE), whereby a user's public identity, such as an email address, can function as the user's public key. Since then, Boneh's contributions, together with those of others, have shown the power and versatility of pairings, which are now used as a mainstream tool in cryptography. The transfer of pairings from theory t
shinohai: Since no one has ever spoofed an email address ever I guess.
asciilifeform: shinohai: was funnier than that. idea there was that 'your' privkey is a homomorphic product of your email addr and hitler's magic pubkey. your public key is then function of your email addr and hitler's pub. you can decrypt ( and naturally hitler also decrypts ) but randos -- not
asciilifeform: i.e. nonsense on several separate levels.
asciilifeform: boneh is a 'serious' academic d00d who built whole career on astrology like this.
asciilifeform: it so happens that i once ran into him in meatspace. looked for some symptom of 'knows what he is', found none, completely earnest, remorseless.
asciilifeform: shinohai: as for the particular crackpottery in your link, see earlier instance http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-02#1621306 of ~same thing☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-02 21:10 asciilifeform: oooh hey hey hey lbj. i finally found out why prb folx like schnorr.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, HE delivers in time.
mircea_popescu: and by this, HE wins. you lose.
mircea_popescu: now shush and go do things.
pete_dushenski: trinque: i tried pgpdump -i on the first one i sent you and there was no expiration date. either way, the second crack is posted above and teh third crack is here : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/AqyXy/?raw=true
pete_dushenski: hopefully one of these loser pubkeys works, but if not i've made a new 4096 bit key to act as back-up/replacement. lemme know and thx again
trinque: hm, maybe I read it with my late night eyeballs
trinque: will give it a look in a bit
pete_dushenski: cheers
pete_dushenski: in other "fuck your human rights rhethoric", duterte threatens to can deal for $300mn of canadian helicopters if bitch ass trudeau and his butt buddies at amnesty international don't stick to business. not that canada will - it's happy to shoot itself in the foot, calf, knee, quad, hip, and up until it's bled out for its colonial sins. http://archive.is/oHOSj
pete_dushenski: shameful
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: you don't want a 4096 bit key; i can't find the relevant logs at the moment but koch-rsa does bad shit when generating keys > 2048 bits
pete_dushenski: huh
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes wasn't enough to actually lose out 2048 bits ; besides, he's using teh fg i expect ? is he ?
pete_dushenski: ofc
ben_vulpes: hey, pete_dushenski how didja plug the fg into the koch-rsa keygenerator?
pete_dushenski: http://trilema.com/2016/werner-koch-lies/#selection-165.0-168.0 << "4096-bit Republican standard"
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: fed fg to /dev/random then crossed my fingers and closed my eyes in hoping that gpg sourced entropy from there
lobbes: pete_dushenski: I dunno if your situation is the same with your old 2014 key. But if you have any subkeys be sure to check them too >>  http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-08#1734399☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-08 21:13 lobbes: and yeah, I overlooked that I apparently had to also remove expiration on the sub -explicitly- (via gpg --edit-key). Even though it was showing the sub as 'expiration: none' after I had removed expiration on the pub way back when
pete_dushenski: lobbes: after reading through the logs and seeing that you'd gone through exactly the same thing, i was mindful to remove exp from subs too :)
lobbes: Aha! Word
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-09#1783109 <<< For future reference, is one supposed to feed /dev/random or urandom ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-09 20:16 pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: fed fg to /dev/random then crossed my fingers and closed my eyes in hoping that gpg sourced entropy from there
mircea_popescu: ideally you want to kill the "csprng" altogether and simply feed the entropy pool.
mircea_popescu: they both read from the same source.
mircea_popescu: drivers/char/random.c is what needs changing. wipe the calls to "add_disk_randomness" and bullshit, replace with your fg feeder.
shinohai: Thanks for clarification, I haven't gotten this deep down the rabbit hole with mine yet but looking forward.
mircea_popescu: if your kernel is over (iirc 4.8 was it ?), you have to also nuke the csprng thing.
BingoBoingo: I return. The short of the news is there is still only one "business" that had one 2U chassis, and they have yet to follow up with a quote for the rest of the shopping list. Blog post baking, with pictures from this cargo cult hell hole.
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: quite the metropolis you got on your hands there.
mircea_popescu: but, for your own notes as well as for the strengthening of the public record, let me point out that the line "well mp... i have my doubts about the feasibility of the plan here ; casual inspection of the local orc bazaars pompously bestowing upon themselves the unearned monicker of 'computer hardware shops' resulted in a grand total of ONE identified rack, for instance." properly belonged in the ~very first week~ of your str
mircea_popescu: eam of reports from there, and would have already been late in the 2nd week.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> eam of reports from there, and would have already been late in the 2nd week. << I came to realize the grave neglect in not doing this exercise upon arrival rather early in the day's exercise.
BingoBoingo: And fuck me, everyone keeps telling me "Look on Mercado Libre, they have everything there" which is only true if by everything you mean except for civilized life. "Oh, here people just use the Dell/HP/Lenovo authorized distributors."
BingoBoingo: "Don't flush toilet paper" is a warning I should have taken far more seriously.
BingoBoingo: It turns out cleaner tapwater and better food than old country does not on its own constitute civilization.
mircea_popescu: the very definition of an orc, this. one who can subsist on pantsuit diet, one who is satisfied with facebook for his culture and with dellenovo for his hardware and with the http://trilema.com/2018/best-of-fetlife-such-as-it-is/ girlies for his amorous needs and so on. that's what an orc is, what the fuck else would it be.
BingoBoingo: As I put this post togther the one redeeming though that keeps floating to the top of my mind is that this place is small enough that if The Republic is going to start subjugating, this is a rather small and defenseless sandbox to practice on.
shinohai: Do the locals have bronze-tipped spears at least?
pete_dushenski: lulzy trump anecdote of the day comes to us from his personal porn star stormy daniels : "She describes walking into his suite at the Beverly Hills Hotel, for instance. “You could see the television from the little dining room table and he was watching Shark Week,” she recalled. “And he was watching a special about the U.S.S. something and it sank and it was like the worst shark attack in history. He
pete_dushenski: is obsessed with sharks. Terrified of sharks. He was like, ‘I donate to all these charities and I would never donate to a charity that helps sharks. I hope all the sharks die.’ He was like riveted. He was like obsessed. It was so strange, I know.”"
pete_dushenski imagines us prez shooting shoulder-mounted rocket-laucher from helicopter into shark-infested waters below. so kaiserlich und koniglich!