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Chillum: which means you can do it through tor
mircea_popescu: wouldn't you want your tor router quietly on a cable ?
assbot: The lulz of today : DDoS attacks, ransom notes, Tor anonimity and other faits d'armes of the retarded generation on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1BW6bEI )
cnerd: http://trilema.com/2014/the-lulz-of-today-ddos-attacks-ransom-notes-tor-anonimity-and-other-faits-darmes-of-the-retarded-generation/
nubbins`: yep. INCREDIBLY WEIRD, this. a guy using tor.
nubbins`: In April 2014, BitStamp representatives messaged Force, asking him why he was accessing his account through Tor. He responded through the support ticket: “I utilize TOR for privacy. Don’t particularly want NSA looking over my shoulder :)”
assbot: #15463 (Tor deals poorly with a very large number of incoming connection requests.) – Tor Bug Tracker & Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxrTFs )
ascii_field: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/15463 << l0ltr0n1c
mircea_popescu: the guy is not actually pushing tor and that promise was a fake acct.
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 18:59:01; asciilifeform: from his pushing tor, to promising to reveal 'who plugged jfk', to countless other distractions
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> <asciilifeform> does s ever -mention- pgp? << Snowden mentions GPG all of the time, Greenwald mentions tor all of the time << exactly apt description.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> does s ever -mention- pgp? << Snowden mentions GPG all of the time, Greenwald mentions tor all of the time
mircea_popescu: he very guardedly recomends tor.
asciilifeform: and every time he opens mouth, what comes out? 'brave journalists', 'use tor!', etc
asciilifeform: from his pushing tor, to promising to reveal 'who plugged jfk', to countless other distractions
nubbins`: i missed it, but his "how to use tor" video was painful
assbot: Logged on 24-03-2015 14:51:20; mats: look, i'm putting my skepticism on the record. if there was evidence, it'd look like 'Tor Stinks' or the slides from Der Spiegel's work on the Belgacom pwnage. i'm not saying that Dual_EC_DRBG doesn't have obvious flaws or that anyone should continue using it, but my skepticism regarding it being an intentional backdoor remains
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-03-2015#1067830 << the "tor stinks" evidence is in the public record.
mats: fun fact: the tor browser bundle uses the Windows heap instead of jemalloc
mats: look, i'm putting my skepticism on the record. if there was evidence, it'd look like 'Tor Stinks' or the slides from Der Spiegel's work on the Belgacom pwnage. i'm not saying that Dual_EC_DRBG doesn't have obvious flaws or that anyone should continue using it, but my skepticism regarding it being an intentional backdoor remains
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: read, if you have the stomach, the tardsthread. overall angle seems to be 'use tor now111!!!11!!'
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/03/tor-developers-set-funding-goal/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was an attempt at something like tor.
BingoBoingo: onewhosits: More just some vandal has a bot that lurks and DoS's connections as it seens them join. Cloak should be enough to defeat that. To connect with Tor you'd need a cloak anyway.
assbot: This Onion, It Smells: Inherent Hazards of the Tor Network | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1ymmtWw )
mats: http://qntra.net/2014/11/this-onion-it-smells-inherent-hazards-of-the-tor-network
mats: i'd avoid doing anything sensitive over Tor, though
assbot: Tor and Encryption Have Created a ‘Zone of Lawlessness,’ Justice Department Says | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1yHdj5V )
decimation: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/tor-and-encryption-have-created-a-zone-of-lawlessness-justice-department-says
mircea_popescu: seems an excellent way to expose a tor server.
jurov: er.. there's tor too
asciilifeform: eh, the 'tor' scrapes the eye like the shit in matsushita
thestringpuller: or connect from tor
asciilifeform: (tor plug)
asciilifeform: lol, seems like 'pogo' was behind that ridiculous tor thing - http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/reviews/pogoplug-safeplug-review-anonymous-browsing-instantly
gribble: Nick 'Vexual', with hostmask 'Vexual!~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual', is not identified.
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Elio19!~elio19@gateway/tor-sasl/elio19. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Elio19: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Elio19 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Elio19 | Rated since: Thu Mar 8 00:37:21 2012
asciilifeform: they're trying to play it "anonymously". ie, not official << with pretense every bit as thin as with 'tor'.
asciilifeform: https://threatpost.com/new-strain-of-crowti-ransomware-moving-in-i2p-network/110416 << even crapware artists moving off tor
mircea_popescu: "An as yet unknown1 individual or group has taken up the mantle of DPR and launched the next iteration of the Silk Road marketplace, but this time around it's not accessible via Tor."
xe4l: mircea_popescu: haha, naw, TOR has a host of issues; this is merely a security layer if contemplated deploying
mircea_popescu: <xe4l> think TOR but you always do 10mbit FD << o that's what this is, you fixing what you read about tor vulnerabilities recently ?
xe4l: think TOR but you always do 10mbit FD
mircea_popescu: brb moving to tor.
decimation: the interent, as exists, is like tor - in the sense that the group is trying to solve the individual's problem
asciilifeform: well, 'platonic tor' is simply that a large number of people agree to 'play non-broken telephone' between me and a destination.
asciilifeform: speaking of the 'platonic' tor, rather than the cthonian horror of the actual proggy
mircea_popescu: the tor bs is an attempt to "fix" in implementation problems to whose existence it not merely contributes, but moore! whose existence it actually postulates.
asciilifeform: (combination of 'tor'-like apparatus with 'wot', in particular)
mircea_popescu: it is, unlike the tor etc bs, actually efficient.
asciilifeform: but if we actually want to go in that direction, the logical result is a gadget like 'tor', with bounces, mixes, etc.
asciilifeform: i won't argue that a working 'tor' would not have its uses, but it is a very different animal from an 'adult' rebirth of internet circa 1989
asciilifeform: if specifically aiming for anonymity, deniability, one ends up designing a widget akin to 'tor'
kakobrekla: svetlana vpn is not much better than a bnc and tor wont fly here.
mircea_popescu: Vor der Kaserne, wor dem grossen Tor stand eine Laterne und steht sie noch davor...
mircea_popescu: decimation: asciilifeform: I doubt there will be a 'day of reckoning' w.r.t. tor. it will just turn off and the derps will move on << pretty much exactly.
asciilifeform: spiegel << discussion of 'tor' as not yet having spread its legs - suggests psychop; but on the other hand, the material (claims) circa 2010-2012.
decimation: adlai: did you connect to it via tor?
assbot: To clarify, we are no longer attacking PSN or Xbox. We are testing our new Tor 0day.
assbot: 3000 Tor relays in an hour, all called LizardNSA[0-9]+Interesting.
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask ELio19!~elio19@gateway/tor-sasl/elio19. Trust relationship from user assbot to user ELio19: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=ELio19 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ELio19 | Rated since: Thu Mar 8 00:37:21 2012
asciilifeform: i deliberately didn't even bring up the whole thing's (almost certain) reliance on tor and related idiocy
decimation: BingoBoingo: coupled with the vague announcement yesterday, it seems someone in usg has decided to pull the plug on tor; possibly related to this sony attack
BingoBoingo: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2014-December/036067.html
asciilifeform: 'Purism Installs TOR by Default' << l0l! cherry on the cake!
punkman: asciilifeform: punkman: tor is a multi-layered scam << says so on the tin, it's an onion :P
decimation: low-latency? I've never used tor but I doubt its latency is low
asciilifeform: punkman: tor is a multi-layered scam
punkman: I think the big scam is making all the derps believe they can have anonymity with low-latency tor
asciilifeform: there'll be a new! improved! honeypot (almost certainly consisting of a tor 'altcoin' - original with a few knobs turned)
decimation: asciilifeform: I doubt there will be a 'day of reckoning' w.r.t. tor. it will just turn off and the derps will move on
asciilifeform: tor << snake will begin to swallow its tail, at last ?
decimation: punkman: re: tor blog & comments < such expert
assbot: Possible upcoming attempts to disable the Tor network | The Tor Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1HdlQ5Q )
punkman: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/possible-upcoming-attempts-disable-tor-network
BingoBoingo: But for Tor that line is blurry
decimation: which puts them on par with the tor 'admin' who doxxed some guy because he was annoying
asciilifeform: rather opposite goal to 'tor.'
mircea_popescu: it'd be a better tor and everything else by default.
BlueMeanie4: lots of really interesting info coming out re. Tor
mircea_popescu: no such thing exists. tor is and was a usg hole long before pando sort-of read it in trilema. etc.
assbot: It’s time for Tor activists to stop acting like the spies they claim to hate | PandoDaily ... ( http://bit.ly/1IOcMrD )
asciilifeform: http://pando.com/2014/12/10/its-time-for-tor-activists-to-stop-acting-like-the-spies-they-claim-to-hate << from earlier link
assbot: Clearing the air around Tor | PandoDaily ... ( http://bit.ly/1sqWr1R )
BingoBoingo: Pando editor appologizes for good article http://pando.com/2014/12/09/clearing-the-air-around-tor/
mircea_popescu: "Recently, Pando (an Internet infotainment site) released a story accusing Tor of being some sort of government conspiracy. This is nonsense, of course."
assbot: Errata Security: The Pando Tor conspiracy troll ... ( http://bit.ly/1DpQk87 )
BingoBoingo: http://blog.erratasec.com/2014/11/the-pando-tor-conspiracy-troll.html
fluffypony: same reason people build on top of i2p or Tor
assbot: Exclusive Matt DeHart coverage: Paul DeHart and Tor Ekeland Interviewed | The Cryptosphere ... ( http://bit.ly/1G7ghas )
BingoBoingo: http://thecryptosphere.com/2014/10/10/exclusive-matt-dehart-coverage-paul-dehart-and-tor-ekelund-interviewed/
punkman: asciilifeform: you could run your own private bitcoin, or private Tor network, or whatever
badon: I feel dirty every time I send a password to nickserv or chanserv on IRC, but in my case, I use SASL and the Tor hidden service, so it's not plaintext like it might be for ordinary IRC connections.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: I can't believe in 2014 we have GoDaddy leading the way in managed DNSSEC and Facebook leading the way in correct Tor hosting for clearnet sites <<< bwahaaha this IS a fucking point. and it goes on : microsoft leading the way for linux, on it goes.
fluffypony: I can't believe in 2014 we have GoDaddy leading the way in managed DNSSEC and Facebook leading the way in correct Tor hosting for clearnet sites
mircea_popescu: "Yes, I2P or Tor would work for such a website. Freenet is probably more secure because there are no entry/exit nodes to monitor, but Freesites can only serve static content, and anonymous Bitcoin payments don't have a way to include a message with them."
decimation: Dr-G: are you connected via tor and then sasl, or end-to-end sasl to freenode?
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask adlai!~Adlai@gateway/tor-sasl/adlai. Trust relationship from user assbot to user adlai: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=adlai | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=adlai | Rated since: Sat Oct 11 10:15:58 2014
mircea_popescu: these idiots using blockchain wallets through tor are perhaps the exact opposite of security and anonimity.
assbot: Add TOR filter to request blocker · e478bcc · blockchain/Checksum · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1vnkfHo )