mircea_popescu: "This is how the max block size will be increased, hopefully with the same 2-year delay. By the time the change actually happens, everyone will be using a client with the new rules because that's the only type of client that will have been advertised on bitcoin.org and elsewhere for 2+ years. You'd have to go massively out of your way to download a version without the new rules."
mircea_popescu: the fake bitcoin foundation is going to make it for two years ? bwahahaha gimme a break.
mircea_popescu: Gavin educates, make his points and tries convince community without antagonizing anyone. Popescu is probably the biggest jerk in the community, and his flock are such a dickheads that I'd be happy to see them using separate chain just so they can circlejerk and pretend they are the kings of the crypto-word in their own sandbox. Anything they write is so repugnant, that it's just impossible to argue with them. It's fun
mircea_popescu: ny how they define "THE community" linking between blogs of handful of people.
mircea_popescu: dude, reddit really likes being educated, provided the "education" in question consists of telling them how great and important they are.
mircea_popescu: "However, I also expect Bitcoin to become a) more forgetful and think that b), there could be a systems that puts the burden of validating a transaction on the sender of the transaction instead of the network. So that maybe, maybe, in the more distant future, all that needs to be kept of the decentralized blockchain are the headers, which is less than a CD-ROM full of data for 100years."
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adlai: what if satoshi sells on the original chain
adlai: (directed by m night shamalayan)
mircea_popescu: "Dude that runs Mpex is a crazy narcissist that happened to get rich (if he cashed out) from being an early adopter. I think the MPEX buy-in was 10k coins just for a seat at the table even after the price hit $30. He also just consented to a $50k fine from the SEC for selling unregistered securities."
mircea_popescu: adlai yeah, all this "satoshi this satoshi that" will be heard until the 1mn hoard quietly splits one night.
mircea_popescu: then it sudden;y won't ever be a topic mentioned again by the ~500 or so fake reddit accounts working at creating "consensus" of "the community"
kakobrekla: no he didnt cash out, he is still poor.
mircea_popescu: ima ask the sec to give me 50k i apparently paid them ?
mircea_popescu: "This guy owns enough BTC to crash the price to 0 on the fork if it develops. Basically imagine launching an altcoin that starts out with the current blockchain as genesis. Then imagine a huge holder acting to destroy this altcoin to protect the original Bitcoin."
mircea_popescu: "This is one of the shittiest pieces of fear mongering I've ever read. Hard forking is and should be a natural and regular occurance and never has any hard fork ever threatened the block chain. It's called natural selection. Have a little faith in the educated masses"
cazalla: easter eggs on shelves here in australia and it's only 2nd week of january lol
davout: cazalla: not very surprising coming from a people that sells oysters already opened
davout: oysters. they're opened. right.
mircea_popescu: plenty o\f restaurants bring them open to the table tho
davout: that's even a worse offense to humanity than vegemite and the australian accent combined
decimation: yeah in the us it is common to get oysters seved open
decimation: it's the shit at the bottom of a beer barrel after fermentation is done
davout: mircea_popescu: of course, i'm speaking about stores, where the oysters are presented like that
mircea_popescu: davout ever showed you the alleged "salmon" that was jet black ?
davout: god forbid you confuse vegemite for nutella. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BAD TIME
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davout: mircea_popescu: that sort of rings a bell, was that in bsas? i kind of remember you mentioning some sort of cheese too
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decimation: Vegemite (/ˈvɛdʒɨmaɪt/ VEJ-ə-myt)[2][3] is a dark brown Australian food paste made from leftover brewers' yeast extract with various vegetable and spice additives developed by Cyril P. Callister in Melbourne, Victoria, in 1922.[4] A popular spread for sandwiches, toast, crumpets and cracker biscuits as well as a filling for pastries, Vegemite is similar to British, New Zealand and South African Marmite, Australian Promite,
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davout: a filling. for pastries.
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decimation: in france they fill pastries with almond paste; in australia, with yeast shit
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davout: decimation: tbh the almond pastry thing is usually bakeries recycling yesterday's pastries
mircea_popescu: i think that may actually be required for people with no better source of b complex / colon flora
davout: "oh that croissant from yesterday is hard? let's just soak it in that delicious milk+almonds thing and sell it under a different name" delicious nonetheless
decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah that's a good theory
decimation: gut flora are probably more important than we know
davout: the interesting in this bit is that if you s/devs/power rangers/ it works just as fucking well, if not better
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mircea_popescu: i doubt it was ever in history the case that idiots supporting something did so much damage to it by its attempts at supporting it.
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mircea_popescu: kinda a resplendent showcase of why one does not really want to be on the side of idiots.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the original complaint was more of a "we include names, do not know what code they stand for"
mircea_popescu: bvut the recent openss; ecdsa library issue ? it's because they pulled "ecdsa"
mircea_popescu: but it's how they're bringing "hope and change" to bitcoin, or w/e it was they were bringing.
cazalla: <davout> cazalla: not very surprising coming from a people that sells oysters already opened <<< ever had Sydney rock oysters?
davout: cazalla: never. been to sydney only a couple of days, lived in melbourne for a while tho, where i witnessed the unspeakable horror of these oysters being sold already opened
cazalla: davout, well agreed there, i won't buy and eat them from fish market in melbourne but while living near Sydney, happy to shove as many down my gullet as possible
davout: they look pretty different from what i'm used to, pretty fat and appealing :D
decimation: asciilifeform: re: tieteixobactin << My outsider view is that microbiology has been more busy derping with 'computing dna' rather than actually studying microbes
BingoBoingo: decimation: And that's why the people who made the jump to culturing forest organisms in dirt found a useful.
cazalla: davout, in fact, Melbourne is all round pretty shit for seafood besides king george whiting
davout: no trouble beliebing that
danielpbarron: they are starting to call the real bitcoin "MPcoin"
mircea_popescu: "mp got bitcoin renamed in his honor by not doing things! now that's the true entrepreneurial spirit!"
cazalla: ;;rate -100000 davout__ doesn't like vegemite, attacks vegemite
gribble: Error: 'davout__' is not a valid integer.
mircea_popescu: no really this shit is beautiful. so, libertards that think they're part of bitcoin come up with the idea to fork bitcoin to make it moar libertardcoin. mp says "fu and your gavincoin". now, they do understand that leaving the issue as bitcoin vs gavincoin pretty much settles the propaganda angle.
cazalla: i'm not sure if there is anything better than butter soaked bread topped with an inch of vegemite
davout: ;;rate -10000 cazalla__ lives upside down
gribble: Error: 'cazalla__' is not a valid integer.
mircea_popescu: so they'd rather it be mpcoin vs "bitcoin". except... if the gavincoin chain fails, this in effect renames bitcoin after me.
mircea_popescu: so their attempt to fork bitcoin escalated, because before they can in earnest get to that, they have to resolve a namefork
BingoBoingo: I'm surprised it took so long for the coin name for issue to resolve
BingoBoingo: Well, they are going to stop saying MP coin soon I imagine, because... They still base their idea of MP wealth on that dorky tortilla chart from god knows how long ago.
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artifexd: ;;later tell nubbins` Do you have an common casascius coins you want to sell? I sold a dozen and would like to replace them.
artifexd: If I can replace them for 1.35BTC each (or less), I will.
kakobrekla: the brass is .35 when btc is 100 or 1000.
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gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 266.89, Best ask: 267.49, Bid-ask spread: 0.60000, Last trade: 267.49, 24 hour volume: 12512.85539594, 24 hour low: 262.08, 24 hour high: 280.94, 24 hour vwap: 0
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BingoBoingo: Retard, that's not a bullet with the name on it that's just a fucking casing.
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo seems qntra is doing pretty well these days huh
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah. It really does. It's been a fight getting credibility from people on the fence. Took a few days for people to realize the BitPay layoff article wasn't bullshit.
BingoBoingo: f3d1b8ad2e31887ad33695f3e58a4df946cf8020e6f98ce598528ba5d6583bd3
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empyex: mircea_popescu: [S.QNTR] Bids: 2000 @ 0.00015000 7089 @ 0.00013514 20000 @ 0.00012995 100000 @ 0.00009995
empyex: mircea_popescu: [S.QNTR] Asks: 50 @ 0.00017400 550 @ 0.00017500 50 @ 0.00030000
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kakobrekla: my guess is nobody really knows what the actual fuck is going on.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: you know. we used to have a "no alcohol on sunday" policy.
thestringpuller: used to not affect, me. Today, I'm like "Sweet time to get beer".
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what even is the point of gigantic blocks ? << More pretend businesses for the Mr Spamzors
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you understand what the bloom filters thing is supposed to do AFTER that right ?
mircea_popescu: so then ? huge instablocks, miners running into the disaster of textile
mircea_popescu: "a well, bitcoin was a great idea, unfortunately it failed. clearly ron paul can't win office"
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mircea_popescu: thestringpuller btw, how does it feel to like hit it with article ?
mircea_popescu: "An as yet unknown1 individual or group has taken up the mantle of DPR and launched the next iteration of the Silk Road marketplace, but this time around it's not accessible via Tor."
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: So, I'm a big Dave Chappelle fan. Anyhow when he got heckled and ragequitting off stage during one of his last stand up shows he came back out and said something to the audience: "You know why my show is good? Because the network officials say you're not smart enough to get what I'm doing, and every day I fight for you. I tell them how smart you are. Turns out, I was wrong. You people are stupid." This is how I
mircea_popescu: Basically they fired the guy who blew $1.5Million and only 5 Transactions (probably sub $10) to show for it.
mircea_popescu: BitPay will soon be dead. They probably make $1000 per month revenue and burn around $500K.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "I think the bigger issue is that Bitpay doesn't have a long term business model. Even assuming that Bitcoin adoption grows, transfer of Bitcoin to fiat is a programmable function. People will immediately cut out the middle man if it becomes less expensive, and its a bit of a race to the bottom as people compete in the space for the best rates, quickest conversion and most apis."
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hanbot: <thestringpuller> how did you not have a stroke while in the trenches of super retardism? << what matters are facts; doesn't matter how often idiocy is repeated by idiots, or how exotic it gets. also, cold showers.
assbot: "The woman's job is to find a great man (not good, by the way), suck his cock, wash his socks and write his eulogy." Bitcoin thought leader Mircea Popescu enlightens. : Buttcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1y1yuV1 )
hanbot: i guess it's more fun to play unobservant psych undergrad than to think.
mircea_popescu: hanbot i wonder how many of these milktoothed experts of letters and matters even understands what the sockwashing reference is.
hanbot: judging by the arguments, i'd be surprised if the thing was read beyond the title's first nine words.
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[\\\]: is there a cumcoin yet?
undata: I should script auth better instead of doing it by hand like a derp each time.
undata: but eh, bouncer makes me lazy
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> hanbot i wonder how many of these milktoothed experts of letters and matters even understands what the sockwashing reference is. << is it that bogart-bacall in the desert episode?
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mircea_popescu: kinda so-so, that one. to have and have not, the big sleep, stuff like that rather.
mircea_popescu: she does a splendid eleanor of aquitanie and generally dowager roles,
mircea_popescu: i guess my very heavy "not a whore, not a woman" bias is showing.
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cazalla: that is funny considering the timing of the article on trilema other day lol
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danielpbarron: lol ya, my redditvote made the qntra comment go to the top
BingoBoingo: I still doesn't look like one of the many crap spewing anuses pretending to news because of forgoing bootstrap is not a design virtue.
BingoBoingo: Coindesk for axample is an anus. It looks like it uses Bootstrap (mobile first design turd). I dunno how visual difference between Qntra and an anus is not a net positive.
undata: qntra could have a media query to change the width on mobile.. just sayin
☟︎ undata: I use an rss reader so it doesn't affect me either way
undata: mircea_popescu: yes, but as qntra has what appears to be a fixed pixel width it ends up with rather small fonts on mine
cazalla: mircea_popescu, Qntra is not perfect, at least not on an iphone but it's readable
mircea_popescu: cazalla prolly should get rid of absolute px specification in favour of %s
undata: I am otherwise totally unoffended by the minimalism
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mircea_popescu: cazalla dude did you people get more reddit comments/votes today than sharesd ?
mircea_popescu: maybe qntra should pay dividends in social media crap.
cazalla: yeah, lots of comments and feedback and bad advices
mircea_popescu: any substance to this "Tony "I Like Underage Girls" Gallippi" angle something awful's pushing ?
cazalla: he was just the cameraman, what's the problem?!?!
cazalla: actually, i don't know the full story, i think thestringpuller has that
thestringpuller: we were researching and found a few articles saying he was setting up underage girl shoots
cazalla: mircea_popescu, he's allege to have run a glamourshots business but claimed he was only the cameraman, i dunno the facts tbh
mircea_popescu: i thought it was that other derp that got put away for something pedo related
undata: dude can't even opsec his pedo-ing and he wants my coin
mircea_popescu: of course, all this wasn't exactly exceptional in 2002 or w/e.
mircea_popescu: "Lets not forget the real paid shills on /r/bitcoin as well. The fuckwits who were paid to spread the usage of 'bit' as a unit. I wonder how much BitPay spent on that one." << that's a kinda funny one. yet another place where derps diverge from mp, derps fail & get burned, derps dun learn.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah but i mean... so it's great, less shit to worry about, someone else;s doing it.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: it's interesting to see some of the derps waking up and exiting the cave.
mircea_popescu: "How much did the Bitcoin Bowl cost? Was it really worth sacrificing nine of your best and brightest?" << heh. once you put it like that, it burns.
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, im kinda blown away that the point that an eulogy's job is to illustrate how great the deceased was and how worthless the world by comparison is somehow controversial.
mircea_popescu: is this because reddit is too young to have given much thought to funerals etc ?
mircea_popescu: tbh pleb funerals prolly beat fancypants funerals. tho maybe that doesn't hold in fake-usia
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mircea_popescu: (ballerina kills herself after her novelist husband dies)
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BingoBoingo: !up asciilifeform Your connection seems iffy today. Is there a van waiting to take you on vacation?
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell hanbot ty, much appreciated
BingoBoingo: !up asciilifeform Your connection seems iffy today. Is there a van waiting to take you on vacation?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: don't get abducted. you say such amusing things. (No you don't amuse me like a clown. I do not view you as Joe Pesci)
ben_vulpes: <kakobrekla> [] how do other envision the future when reward goes towards 0. either a btc is worth half a planet or the fees amount per block go up a few orders of magnitude or network is dead << little bit of columns a and b
ben_vulpes: <benjamindees> [] Just consider that, when Satoshi said "gain a new territory of freedom for several years," he had a reason. Bitcoin is not the end-all-be-all of systems. Mining may not be a long-term solution. But inflation is non-negotiable, regardless. << who are you again?
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undata: mircea_popescu: beautiful imagery in english; I'm sure the sound of it matches in romanian
mircea_popescu: i butchered it as far as everything but the imagery is concerned.
mircea_popescu: in romanian it's actually oyu know, like a poem, with rhyme and errything
mircea_popescu: kinda, yeah. fucking impossible to make poetrywork in nonflexional languages.
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BingoBoingo: Among other things English can be condemned for English is incapable of Opera
BingoBoingo: How language shapes the form the work is best presented in
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empyex: mircea_popescu: F.DERP 1 day: average: 0.000033 high: 0.000033 low: 0.000033 volume: 1000 btc: 0.033 7 day: average: 0.000033 high: 0.000033 low: 0.000033 volume: 1000 btc: 0.033 30 day: average: 0.000033 high: 0.000033 low: 0.000033 volume: 1000 btc: 0.033
mircea_popescu: it'll be the lulz of all time if d.bpay is the first derp to bite it.
mircea_popescu: "And now in practical terms : there once existed this thing called NeoBee. It pretended to be a Bitcoin business, but inasmuch as its purported CEO was not in #bitcoin-assets, it never stood a chance. This is a point oft neglected, but by far the best predictor of success or failure in the Bitcoin space : that channel is where the industry meets. If a purported business is not well represented in there, it is not well
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2015 05:34:53; undata: qntra could have a media query to change the width on mobile.. just sayin
fluffypony: you can just do it as a CSS media query
fluffypony: @media screen and (max-width: 640px) { /* all the qntra CSS goes here */ }
davout: my point is that i'm interested in the content, so as long as html is used sanely it should display in a meaningful way
davout: "can't mobile drop css itself ?" <<< yeah, that would solve it, but afaik there's no such feature :/
davout: what? that there is no such feature on my mobile?
davout: the 'disable styles' thing is pretty useful even on desktops
davout: "too much bells and whistles? content unreadable? overlay?" fuck you
fluffypony: Mobile Safari has Reader mode for many pages, which is exactly that
BingoBoingo: Also... Qntra still for the forseeable future does full text in its RSS feed.
davout: fluffypony: aah, didn't think of that, reader mode is even somewhat smarter because it'll also detect the actual content and do away with the rest
fluffypony: that's what Qntra looks like in Reader mode
undata: davout: minimal is fine but I otherwise disagree; that one can go mad with CSS doesn't necessitate doing so
undata: but yeah as mentioned above I use Press on android so I don't see the styles
davout: or as saint steve jobs would put it "gorgeous"
assbot: Hard fork block size politics: do we want decentralized digital gold, or just another Visa? : Bitcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1DON8PY )
mircea_popescu: let then better men make the same better points without the name calling,
mircea_popescu: and be heard because i was there to make the points, and the name calling.
davout: what's with all the 'mp owns the bitcoin wiki'?
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mircea_popescu: "It seems to me the bitcoin exchanges and companies like Bitpay will have a large say in how this goes forward. "
mircea_popescu: derp. it seems to me "exchanges" rarely survive a straight year.
mircea_popescu: " I think Theymos has done an awesome service for the community in turning the forum into something of an institution rather than not just pocking hte funds."
punkman: "So I make over a million dollars, use this on things which are clearly intended to benefit the forum and the Bitcoin community instead of myself (even if you think the money could be better used elsewhere), and I get constantly attacked for it..."
cazalla: if only they stumbled across one of the first trilema's i came across.. boy and the tree which turns into a stump for the old man to sit on at the end
assbot: For the amount of money that Theymos is paying for new forum software, we could run a bitcoin commercial during the Super Bowl. : Bitcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1yYx27h )
punkman: "For the amount of money that Theymos is paying these four twenty-somethings to make forum software, he could employ Gavin Andresen full-time, six times over!"
davout: cazalla: i liked this one
davout: if i was in a playful mood i'd hop over there and troll them with the payments i received for being a mod there
mircea_popescu: was this the phantom one man "corporation" he funneled the donations through ?
davout: ah yeah, i recall hearing of that, don't know much about it tho
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davout: BingoBoingo: nice read
davout: it occurs to me that there's a rather trivial way to split gavincoins from bitcoins other than randomly attempting a double-spend, simply include some coinbase-tainted coins in your tx after the fork has occurred
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fluffypony: adlai: pasted from NewsBlur, forgot to snip the URL
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mircea_popescu: fluffypony is that the derp that was hanging out here, aiming for publicity ?
mircea_popescu: davout: it occurs to me that there's a rather trivial way to split gavincoins from bitcoins other than randomly attempting a double-spend, simply include some coinbase-tainted coins in your tx after the fork has occurred << this is true but it only works after you got some split.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "o noes, bitcoin-assets didn't care, let's see if there's barely stable aspie boys somewhere else"
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: can bitpay survive its own absence here ? << they'll eventually send an official emmissary.
thestringpuller: i think the layoffs article has started a witch hunt tho, which is never really healthy.
mircea_popescu: "Bitcoin Needs a Viral Positive "Pay-it-forward" Campaign"
mircea_popescu: you know, doge dieing sucks because all these fucktards are now misrepresenting themsleves as involved with bitcoin
thestringpuller: We want both. And there's no reason we can't have both. << i want to be rich and poor
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mircea_popescu: you clever boy you thestringpuller. i was just writing as to the stupidity of that.
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thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: random: seems seeting cookies from mobile chrome doesn't work?
mircea_popescu: "A friend told me Bitrush was giving away bitcoins and I thought, "What the hell!" I gave them my email and verified my account. Within 12 hours I received my first payout and have received many more since. Pretty nice of them and they even called me to make sure everything was going good for me. No one from any Bitcoin related company has ever called me before and I was amazed at the level of service for spending noth
mircea_popescu: "I thought the Bitrush team was crazy for offering free bitcoins... until they actually showed up in my Blockchain wallet. These guys are nuts. Take advantage of it before they come to their senses!"
davout: guess nothing talks to idiots as much as scamming other idiots
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2015 15:02:29; mircea_popescu: davout: it occurs to me that there's a rather trivial way to split gavincoins from bitcoins other than randomly attempting a double-spend, simply include some coinbase-tainted coins in your tx after the fork has occurred << this is true but it only works after you got some split.
davout: no need to get through the hassle of actually performing a double spend
davout: or creating a massive tx
davout: (for the purpose of double spending obv.)
mircea_popescu: course, the coinbase can't be spent for probably longer tha nthe chain will survive
mircea_popescu: it's really hard to evaluate theoretically which is the practical avenue
mircea_popescu: sort-of like trying to calculate the path lightning will take
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davout: mircea_popescu: yeah you have a point with the coinbase maturation delay
thestringpuller: anyone see this snippet quoting Gavin, "Normal people, stay away from Bitcoin."
davout: thestringpuller: yeah, it was in ft amirite
thestringpuller: very confused. wants more adoption, but wants majority to stay away?
mircea_popescu: "Gavin is, by and large, a mentally retarded doofus displaying a shocking amount of Dunning-Kruger syndrome in his assorted dabblings in economics and other hard fields."
thestringpuller: I was thinking more of the confused retarded kid who mistakingly got an inheritance.
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davout: mircea_popescu: wrt point VIII : what would prevent bitpay from raising even more at an even higher valuation to keep supporting the vessenes foundation circus?
mircea_popescu: what's preventing you from doing it to start an antelope farm
thestringpuller: davout: i can see the current leadership of bitpay being removed as a condition of VC investing more capital
mircea_popescu: there's a ton of bitpay exceptionalism / captn of industry-ism flooding out of reddit. in point of fact, bitpay is a struggling start-up that missed the boat.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: you know those stats that keep going 9x% of start-ups fail in the first bla bla ?
mircea_popescu: well dare i ask what the fraction of startups NOT ON EXPONENTIAL GROWTH CURVE that fail is ?
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mircea_popescu: they missed december. apple can miss. once. maybe. bitpay can't miss.
davout: afaik the oldest entity in the bitcoin-sphere is btc-e
mircea_popescu: stuff like the original blockchain inspector is still around.
davout: kakobrekla: i think they're bulgarian
davout: mircea_popescu: hah yeah, forgot about that, notice how i mentioned an 'entity', not a 'company' :p
mircea_popescu: forthat matter, bitcoin magazine is just as active as it always was
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mircea_popescu: oh. i thought either one of those gold chains or else cocaine
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021461 B (Total: 469.31 B). Delta: 0.11 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000205 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Discussing the role of the hype man in the book How to Rap, Royce da 5'9" describes how a hype man can contribute to a live performance: "a lot of my verses be so constant with the flow [that] I'd need somebody to help me."[4] Lateef adds: "You're gonna have to have somebody say something somewhere to give you a breath... usually it's just a matter of getting somebody to hit some line or some word in a line - that's al
mircea_popescu: no, actually, the hype man is an outgrowth of the shill in 3 card monte and such games, which is what all african entertainment is descended from. he's there to give an anchor to the viewer to identify with, and immitate.
mircea_popescu: he's the guy you immitate at the table, if you don't know how to eat at the table and were told "just do what they do"
mircea_popescu: Ooof, this article hit a bit too close to home for me.
mircea_popescu: Up to probably three or four years ago, I would absolutely be that self-hating nerd Chu is talking about. Generally, I'm not that good looking. I'm fat in a bunch of weird places, tall, and pretty much just strange to look at. For most of my life, I was bullied, and even at 23 years old, I still experience a bit of bullying, and I internalize every insult I hear. Just a few days ago, a random guy in the street called m
mircea_popescu: e a "fat fucking faggot" while I was walking home from the grocery store. I know he was probably drunk and not necessarily in the best state of mind, but fuck that shit hurts. Because of that bullying, I really don't have much confidence at all outside of my own work. The first thing I think of when I meet a new person is "I wonder how disgusted he is with me." And because of that self-hatred, I've never sought out rel
mircea_popescu: ationships. I've had crushes, sure, but whenever the thought of actually forming a romantic relationship with that person would come up, I instantly shot myself down. Through shooting myself down, however, I also shot down that person. "She's shallow," I'd say, "she only wants hot jocks and douchebags. She's not worth my time." I would project all of my self-hatred onto this woman so I could avoid actually working on m
mircea_popescu: y own problems. "It's not my fault that I didn't pursue a romantic relationship with her, she's just a friendzoning bitch." This projection would then just grow and grow to encompass all women.
decimation: asciilifeform: re: spinal codes: one point - while the code is 'rateless' by design, in practice it has a rate
decimation: because you can't transmit for infinite time
mircea_popescu: decimation infinite time's not needed, is it ? just as long as you're not done yet
mircea_popescu: otherwise it's like saying the halting problem doens't exist because no computer runs forever.
decimation: I guess it depends to what degree of certainty you wish to have that the recipient got your message
ben_vulpes: biking across town and running up and down the hill a few times today.
mircea_popescu: no, merely the definition of rateless is "no rate can be computed" instead of "this constant divided by infinity"
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: holidays were full of cake and poor self discipline this year
mircea_popescu: "And as anyone in indie romance knows, the waters are getting crowded, the competition is getting fierce, and I have to hustle my ass off to move books that sold themselves a year ago. I work twelve hours a day with promo, writing, and ad planning--sometimes more."
mircea_popescu: fucking seriously ? 12 hour days to write that pulp ? for 2.3k a month ?!
mircea_popescu: i have servers i shoud probably turn off that i was too lazy to turn off that cost more than that
mircea_popescu: heck, if i can stop reading shit online for five minutes maybe i do it this month. or whatever.
decimation: but these spinal codes are clever in the sense that they cover a variety of channel snr's simultaneously
decimation: At any rate, I'm traveling, will comment later.
assbot: Let's address even more of the more common pseudo-arguments raised by the very stupid people that like the Gavin scamcoin proposal pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1BUG2tK )
ben_vulpes: sounds like a whole lotta your problem, boss
ben_vulpes: <danielpbarron> [] they are starting to call the real bitcoin "MPcoin" << mircea_popescoin
ben_vulpes: hey y'all how does one configure fleanode nickserv to kick squatters?
gribble: Time since last block: 13 minutes and 0 seconds
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] asciilifeform you understand what the bloom filters thing is supposed to do AFTER that right ?<mircea_popescu> [] asciilifeform you understand what the bloom filters thing is supposed to do AFTER that right ? << hopes that this is elaborated upon further in logs
mircea_popescu: what exactly do you imagine anyone may wish to have to do with you after that ?
mircea_popescu: if i want to talk to preet, i can talk to preet directly.
ben_vulpes: artifexd: i'm going to hazard that was shrem.
mircea_popescu: qntra has a link to webirc, iirc anyone following it shows up in here as qntranet
assbot: The measure of a nation is its bowling pins, not its SAFE-T | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1BUMlxB )
ben_vulpes: what was the deal with "justice has been done?"
kakobrekla: a pussy way of saying "buggers will leave me alone now. supposedly."
bitcoin_charlie: Its funny, someone asked me about that exact tweet this morning
bitcoin_charlie: I had tweeted that about 10 minutes from walking out of the court room
bitcoin_charlie: I took a plea deal to avoid a trial, but if you read it, I declined to become a cooperating wittness.
kakobrekla is confused how this morning is dec 19th
kakobrekla: and the convo from this morning is not linkable ?
bitcoin_charlie: mike_c, Im looking at Lewisburg PA, Cumberland MD, Morgantown WV and McKean PA
kakobrekla: the convo about the dec 19th tweet you had this morning ?!
bitcoin_charlie: I spent 6 figures on lawyer fees, the government wanted to send me away for 30 years.
bitcoin_charlie: I didnt win at trial, but hopefully Ill only serve less than a year
kakobrekla: so you mentioned 'new project' ... are you planing on running a gang out of prison?
jborkl: you plead down to two years correct?
kakobrekla: "so if you gonna clear bitcoin money for drug lords when you get out, do it so and so ..?"
jborkl: do you have any time served credit?
kakobrekla: i forgot where i read that but at some time in some place you could send someone else to serve your sentence if you could find such person. it wasnt a problem probably.
jborkl: federal correct or state system
kakobrekla: like if you pay for the extra luxurious accomodation
pete_dushenski: bitcoin_charlie so you're the real shrem eh? can you pgp sign something?
assbot: Be careful about impostors, I only IRC/Reddit under the nick 'Bitcoin_Charlie'
assbot: Be careful about impostors, I only IRC/Reddit under the nick 'Bitcoin_Charlie'
gribble: log.bitcoin-assets.com is up
gribble: log1.bitcoin-assets.com is up
pete_dushenski: bitcoin_charlie so put those two together and what do you get?
gribble: Nick 'bitcoin_charlie', with hostmask 'bitcoin_charlie!452ee56a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.46.229.106', is not identified.
danielpbarron: bitcoin_charlie, you should better just register in the WoT
gribble: (eregister <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase (1 more message)
kakobrekla: hm you have email but no gpg, in jail.
kakobrekla: you need to get one of those cardanos.
kakobrekla: im sure ascii would make a dildonic version for a fee
☟︎ kakobrekla: fuck sorry im going back to work, to much material to troll here.
bitcoin_charlie: My Reddit account has been 'Bitcoin_Charlie' for over a year
danielpbarron slaps bitcoin_charlie around a bit with a large private key
pete_dushenski: bitcoin_charlie so who are you working on this project with?
bitcoin_charlie: A couple of friends started it here in NYC, Im just helping them get organized
pete_dushenski: bitcoin_charlie: But he does not like me very much :) << eh. probably not anymore than anyone else who doesn't listen to his free advice
danielpbarron: you want his opinion of a "bitcoin business" that doesn't have a representative in the WoT?
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pete_dushenski: and maybe instead of you e-mail intro'ing me to them, you bring them here ?
pete_dushenski: bitcoin_charlie:Couple of people from the Bitcoin space << as meaningless as "a couple of people from the neighbourhood where i grew up"
jurov: !up bitcoin_charlie
pete_dushenski: i don't know if you grew up in compton, monaco, or rural shanghai
pete_dushenski: "We're a bunch of bitcoin enthusiasts, traders and programmers who have been involved in the Bitcoin space from the very beginning. Collectively, our background consists of over 30 years of capital markets and technology experience. "
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: ya know. I was thinking about Bitcoin in the car today from THE Foundations point of view. "We change for bitcoin, our ways change for bitcoin not the other way around."
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bitcoin_charlie: Im consulting on the ActionCrypto project, a bunch of friends are running it
jurov: how many is the bunch? 10? then it's 3 years for each one
thestringpuller: And that's very much what I think this war comes down to. Not block size or anything else. Just the simple fact: You are either for changing bitcoin for YOUR needs, or you are willing to adapt to bitcoin.
bitcoin_charlie: So, when you buy an option, its timestamped on the blockchain
bitcoin_charlie: Every option has been paid out, and the price feed is verifiable
thestringpuller: in a sense we are the ones being attacked not the other way around. trying to defend and hold the gate of bitcoin fro retardism. it was a really profound moment like when the trilema train ran you over.
punkman: gpg: BAD signature from ""Charlie Shrem CS@CS.com" <cs@charlieshrem.com>"
pete_dushenski: like the rest of chuck's pleading, bleeding head, it would seem.
punkman: * bitcoin_charlie left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed by Preet_Bharara).
fluffypony: [21:44:01] <+bitcoin_charlie>Honestly, Id rather use Yankee
ben_vulpes: <punkman> * bitcoin_charlie left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed by Preet_Bharara). << lol
mircea_popescu: soo... i go to see my private banker, her office's like four blocks down. and as i walk on the street, i see a thing that's still with me.
mircea_popescu: a bum, like a total, street dwelling bum, accosts some random guy begging. and the random guy goes like "ain't got nothing now", and hands him his coke bottle.
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assbot: bigtip +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
bigtip: ;;ratingsystem getrating bigtip
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ben_vulpes: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:affcf8d12f47970d0864ea626cbe820a688382b078baac2e33e61530
gribble: You are now authenticated for user ben_vulpes with key 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user bigtip has been recorded.
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mircea_popescu: "WASHINGTON — The Twitter and YouTube accounts of the Pentagon's command for its forces in the Middle East have been hacked, according to a defense official Monday." lawl
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2015 19:40:21; kakobrekla: im sure ascii would make a dildonic version for a fee
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2015 19:39:55; kakobrekla: wear it in butt.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's one for you : suppose the stavka website sported a "Afghanistani cock -> Russian eager asshole plox ty. We love real men, we're all transvestitties over here!"
davout: kakobrekla: btw if you ever change your mind about documenting that optical device you mentioned earlier, a happy would be me
jurov: the serial cable with buffer would suffice for a start
davout: mircea_popescu: if i don't know how it works and how i take it apart i ain't buying it :D
mircea_popescu: yeah obv. just, imo better economics all around once that's on the table.
davout: jurov: i'm trying to figure out exactly what the desirable properties of such an apparatus are
davout: mircea_popescu: yeah, no argument here, does it come with t-shirts?
davout: yeah, well the questions i'm thinking about are
jurov: davout i assume it has a display and "ack" button that transmits the message, and nak button
davout: should you be able to log what goes through the airgap somehow?
davout: how do you ensure what goes in on one side of the airgap is what goes out?
kakobrekla: i call it 'the gaper' as a tribute to ass gapes.
davout: jurov: yeah, that's the manual case, but you might want to design an automated airgap
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davout: wondering about what makes sense and what doesn't here
jurov: what's the problem with manual checks?
mircea_popescu: davout for all you know the internet is already automatically airgapped to all hell.
davout: no probs with manual checks
jurov: so then why you want it to be automatic?
davout: well, maybe there are some use cases where you want a uni-directional airgap
davout: or maybe you want to enforce that only some sort of messages go through
davout: guess that doesn't really count as an airgap if there isn't a manual step
mircea_popescu: like a diode yeah. conceivably. not what an airgap is toh
davout: just don't put an emitter on the airgapped machine, no need for fancy semiconductors :D
mircea_popescu: i meant, your directional, or message-aware or otherwise "airgap" is a semiconductor in the flux
davout: we were discussing airgaps earlier, with a good solution being optics, right?
davout: so if you don't put a light emitter on the airgap machine you necessarily end up with a one-way airgap, right?
davout: that's the case i was thinking about, therefore not seeing a direct link to semi-conductors
mircea_popescu: a diode is exactly this : current goes one way but not the other.
jurov: the airgap isn't about technology, but about being in complete control
mircea_popescu: it doesn't work on electric flux, but "communication" flux
jurov: if you cede control to software then it's not airgap anymore
davout: jurov: yup, no argument here
mircea_popescu: but an airgap is not a semiconductor. the technical argument can be brougth that obviously semiconductors insulate
davout: more like a 'human cable'
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davout: it's the "The machine handling encryption and decryption on the MPEx side never connects to the Internet. There is no cable." bit that got me thinking about all this
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: works here << new sort of imperceptible ddos.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: you need to get one of those cardanos. << lol it wouldn't be legal.
mircea_popescu: if it were, all drug lords / mafia kingpins would be in jail, offloading the cost of their security to the state, while they kept at their biz.
kakobrekla: those ppl dont care for legal, thats why they are there.
mircea_popescu: well yeah, obviously. however, teh prison people try and prevent stuff like you know, perfectly private comms.
mircea_popescu: "4. You don't deserve to know any of that. It's none of your business. I invited my readers to chip in on a project--or not. I did not invite you to worm your nose into every aspect of my life, hunt down pictures of my home, call me names, or tell me I was worthless, arrogant, greedy, and undeserving. But you want to rip me bare and expose how awful you're sure I am. I get it, you want me transparent. How much more tra
☟︎ mircea_popescu: nsparent do you want it? Do you want to know that one of the reasons I am very private about connecting my pen names is because the man who raped me enjoys making fake profiles and friending me every few years, just to get off on sending me a message and getting blocked? Do you want to hear how I shake all over and panic and relive everything he did to me when that happens? Does that do it for you? Is that transparent
mircea_popescu: enough? Do you feel you got your due? That you were able to violate my privacy and dignity enough to feel I'm worthy of ten pathetic dollars? Less than a damned movie and popcorn?"
mircea_popescu: the woman with the kickstarter makes an excellent point.
davout: in france most inmates have cellphones in their cells. WE HERD YOU LIEK CELLZ
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many of the online derps got their start/education on camwhore sites
mircea_popescu: which aren't particularly sexy, the whole sport is, "let's humiliate / torture her"
mircea_popescu: she definitely seems to think that's what she's getting, the other end of "lul what can we make her do ? shoe on head ?"
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cazalla: bitcoin_charlie:
https://actioncrypto.com/ <<< how is this any different to updown.bt (launched April 2014, became a GOLD!! member of the bitcoin foundation but is now dead, didn't even make it to 2015)
davout: cazalla: blockchain-all-the-things, apparently
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davout: "One estimate placed the company valuation at $90 million, said the news outlet."
davout: wtf is wrong with these people
davout: why not blame them directly? :p
mircea_popescu: fine. i blame them, their stupid fathers & bovine mothers, the fucking gooses masquerading as "educators" in a ten mile radius
adlai: "if they'd let me have my way I could've flayed them into shape // but my hands were tied, the bleeding hearts and artists..."
thestringpuller: lol, "If you change bitcoin, it's no longer bitcoin but something else." << should be mandatory knowledge
irdial: ;;eregister irdial E930 6C6E 1CCE 5697 A88B 5482 5E16 D36E DB32 40F9
gribble: Error: 'E930' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
irdial: ;;eregister irdial E9306C6E1CCE5697A88B 54825E16D36EDB3240F9
gribble: Error: 'E9306C6E1CCE5697A88B' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
irdial: ;;eregister irdial E9306C6E1CCE5697A88B54825E16D36EDB3240F9
gribble: Error: 'E9306C6E1CCE5697A88B54825E16D36EDB3240F9' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
irdial: ;;eregister irdial 5E16D36EDB3240F9
irdial: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:ff211e140a17d6846aebcaf83249e5695f1ca5e23862c72443770251
gribble: Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user irdial with key 5E16D36EDB3240F9
assbot: What is most delightful is projects like DarkWalllet make the "Bitcoin Advicates" completely irrelevant. They can only spectate slack jawed.
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davout: ;;rate irdial 1 been around for a while
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BingoBoingo: ;;rate irdial 1 The other angry profit of doom we need.
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davout: thestringpuller: "Did you mean andreas antonopoulos ?"
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BingoBoingo: Bitcoin is a cult of money so of course we need profits rather than prophets
thestringpuller: then gir pops out and does his little "cute" voice "doom doom. doom doom doom doom! I LIKE YOU!"
mircea_popescu: assbot: 5 Cryptocurrency Caricatures You'll Meet on r/Bitcoin - CoinDesk << so coindesk is at the gizmodo/mashable/demand media "stale meme list" phase of post-shark-jumping ?
mircea_popescu: brb, writing "here's five old tshirt types you'll find at hot topic" article
mircea_popescu: gotta make trilema moar appealing to the derp generation.
jurov: no need. just send them over to r/buttcoin
jurov rushes to check cex isn't among the D.*
BingoBoingo: Charlie Shrem it seems saw the other consequence of negotiating with turdorists
cazalla: that coindesk article also reflects the total lack of news on some days
BingoBoingo: irdial: Message assbot and claim your own voice!
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: well this is why you never cross the streams. they could never get al capone on rico charges so they slapped him on tax evasion.
rithm: hooray for -otc-ratings hello irdial long time blawg reader
rithm slinks back into the shadows
BingoBoingo: But if you don't cross the streams you are stuck with a giant Marshmallow.
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mircea_popescu: some informative original research, fresh from marquardt : "According to Mike Hearn, Satoshi even planned on creating a reputation system integrated with the Bitcoin client that would use the number of blocks you'd individually solved as part of a system to prevent scammers from creating infinitely many accounts."
mircea_popescu: apparently, teh wot is going to be attacked next, because yeah, totally, when you fail in everything you do the logical step is to do more things :D
mircea_popescu: a narrative completely divorced from anything is rare, no ?
mircea_popescu: "Demand for Bitcoin is not inelastic. Raise the price of using Bitcoin enough, and demand will decline. Right now, the primary reason people use Bitcoin is not its security. That's a nice benefit, but most users use it because it's cheap, and has the largest network of users, merchants, exchanges, etc. The affordability and number of users shouldn't be compromised for security. In fact, doing so will inevitably cause s
mircea_popescu: o, bitpay fails miserably on adoption ? CLEARLY WE WERE RIGHT!!! ADOPTION MATTERS!
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.5 BTC for No on "Russian Index MICEX to drop under 1000 before Feb 2015"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1084/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 18(Y):82(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.29748981 BTC. Current weight: 30,309.
mircea_popescu: "I don't understand why this is difficult to understand and literally I've said this three times in the past couple of days.
mircea_popescu: Everyone not on Gavin's side on this all act like low / zero fee transactions just disappear into the ether. They most certainly do not. If (when) the average block size exceeds 1MB these lower fee transactions will overrun the entire system. Servers running bitcoind will start swapping to disk instead of using memory. At that point the entire network would go down."
mircea_popescu: is it obvious why this is retarded or do i have to make a part 3 of "why gavin followers are dumb" list ?
kakobrekla: i dont see how those lists help with anything
assbot: WhatsApp and iMessage could be banned under new surveillance plans - News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent ... (
http://bit.ly/1A9e9K0 )
mircea_popescu: basically "open government 2.0" cameroon wants to ban end to end encryption
mircea_popescu: i keep saying the boo boo about the us, but srsly, the uk is like idi amin's uganda compared.
cazalla: why would you use whatsapp and imessage if you want privacy? almost reads as if he is goading people into using it because it's hip and cool and he doesn't want you to use it
mircea_popescu: "The Essential Role of Mixing Services: BitMixer Processes 25K BTC per Month (Interview and Step-by-Step Guide Included)"
cazalla: kakobrekla, apparently they've come through on the $20 floor and will buy it from users over a 15 year period or some shit
mircea_popescu: srsly, how confused do you need to be to imagine mixing works in a dedicated mixing place.
cazalla: it's not but it is hilarious all the same
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform insure ensure assure, affect, effect, infect etc. just outside of the redditard's literacy bubble.
kakobrekla: association bitcoin to scam has, to me, became stronger than nigeria to scam
mircea_popescu: i fucked nigerians. i never fucked bitcoiners. kako's rule holds.
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kakobrekla: srsly, i dont wanna mention bitcoin irl anymo.
cazalla: perhaps garza's latest scheme with this honour program starting 1st feb is to push the price of paycoin back up to $20 so he can offload all his premined coins and then declare bankrupty come feb, who knows, so much bullshit makes my headspin
mircea_popescu: i never really was too hip on it. if peopel ask, sure, tell em things, answer q's. but the sort of blind "o look what new gadget i got" thing they do... meh. it only creates more idiots for mpoe-pr to claw at.
mircea_popescu: cazalla basically, "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay". "he lied, but it's okay".
kakobrekla: idiots are already coming at maxint rate so one more or less who cares.
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> i dont see how those lists help with anything << re that.
mircea_popescu: only time a redditor said something sane on reddit this week was when he was rewriting a trilema paragraph.
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danielpbarron: Basically anyone who doesn't update their software will not be able to see the new blocks. They will be on an old network that would no longer be "bitcoin" - until they updated their software. It's very likely that this old network would have no transactions because nobody would bother mining it. --reddit
mircea_popescu: this adventure makes it quite obvious how the entire libertard political machine is intended to function. sort-of like, it ran into a ravine, now it's suspended, ands you can walk under it safely and admire all the pistons and whatnot without much risk.
mircea_popescu: reminds me of a much older but quite central asciilifeform point : "These fools have been handed a technology so clever, so disruptive and revolutionary, that the rulers of the world would have to fully unmask themselves as ruthless tyrants in order to suppress it, — or give up their thrones on their own free will — if it were used correctly, that is."
mircea_popescu: so far it;'s a lot more predictive-dialectic. "this is what you will say, and this is why you will be saying it, and this is how you'll respond to the previous statement, and this is why you did that, and this is how..."
mircea_popescu: supposedly the only form of psychotherapy that works. takes a while tho.
PeterL: ;;later tell pete_dushenski your blog is on scoopbot's list, he just doesn't like you for some reason. I will look into it
kakobrekla: whoever responsible for rss should commit suicide.
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