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mircea_popescu: other than the numerous deliberate sabotages, tor fails in a game theoretic manner - no incentive to participate.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually this should work as a proper tor relay for gossipd.
asciilifeform: choice lulz, '...The other incident raises more serious concerns regarding Tor Project’s obligation to ensure a safe and comfortable work environment, especially as regards an environment that is unwelcoming or hostile to protected classes of community members. In this case, you made statements that implied that new community members were recruited in a sexually charged manner. This was made during the course of a Tor Project-sanct
asciilifeform: hopefully he does it with shaheed knapsack in tor hq also.
asciilifeform: ( https://cryptome.org/2016/06/tor-appelbaum-separation.pdf << whole thing, apparently. )
asciilifeform: 'There are strong indications that the website was created by Tor Project contractors and/or employees. Today, the website says "Before launch, we had placeholder text for the initial site design which we did not expect to become public. We never meant to impersonate Jake or to trick anyone." but the original tweet button (which many people clicked) produced a tweet saying "I just read on @ioerror's homepage ..." which shows this to
asciilifeform: 'Prior to publishing https://blog.torproject.org/blog/statement The Tor Project requested that Jacob Appelbaum sign the attached separation agreement which includes a "mutual nondisparagement" clause and an agreement that he will not sue the Tor Project. After he declined to sign the agreement, they published their statement which is a blanket endorsement of any anonymous claims made against him.'
asciilifeform: one obvious possibility is that he had second thoughts re pushing the tor chumpatron.
shinohai: One of the tor project developers.
mircea_popescu: hahaha so i don't fucking get it... they get to keep pretending that tor's not schweizer, and what's the derp get ?
Framedragger: i think i once contacted them about running a tor exit node there, they had said well if you put in your own reverse dns info for the ip block we give you then we 100% don't give a shit
Framedragger: vc: it's cool that you don't preemptively block tor. (on that note, fuck cloudflare with a thousand rakes).
Framedragger: Scanning ports is forbidden on our network. We cannot even do some exeption in our anti-hack detecting system just for your server." <- this is e.g. kimsufi/OVH who are otherwise not complete govt bitches (they appeal court orders, ran wikileaks servers, lots tor exit nodes etc - not to say that this amount to too much)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger tor is uselessly slow
Framedragger remembers he has a disposable tor exit node on digitalocean, can use that one
trinque: they should get that Tor chick this time
shinohai: tor is only gtood for making lulzy Qntra articles!
shinohai: tor convo again? (-_\) #facepalm
Framedragger suspects mircea_popescu is baiting him about tor because he remembers those comments on trilema where framedragger said "evidence or gtfo mircea" ;)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger much like many many stupiud people use tor.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-18 15:27 asciilifeform: it will be truly comedic if it turns out that the performance of the clowns starring in the 'tor is genuine obstacle to usg, really, believe' circus ends up extending to hanging
deedbot: https://twitter.com/isislovecruft?lang=en << isis agora lovecruft (@isislovecruft) | Twitter | https://github.com/isislovecruft << isislovecruft (Isis Agora Lovecruft) · GitHub | http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/tor-developer-isis-agora-lovecruft-publicly-accuses-fbi-harassment-1558607 << Tor developer Isis Agora Lovecruft publicly accuses the FBI of ...
asciilifeform: it will be truly comedic if it turns out that the performance of the clowns starring in the 'tor is genuine obstacle to usg, really, believe' circus ends up extending to hanging ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Wait so her, Appelbaum and all the other "exiled" Tor developers are in German?
mircea_popescu: fromphuctor we use rsa over http. https is about as useful/functional as tor.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck even bother with https already. it's insecure, we know this.they don't even cursory make an attempt. what's next, go on tor ?
mircea_popescu: ah, and obviously - fully dedicated to "safety in tor"
asciilifeform: model has proven remarkably durable despite the constant wearying turmoil of exit-scams and hacks and as I write this in mid-July 2015, there seems to be little chance that things will change substantially soon. (If Tor hidden services are cracked, the DNMs will simply move to I2P or Freenet; if Bitcoin starts getting too easily tracked, transactions will be settled in Monero or another cryptocoin with better anonymity properties, et
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 9 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'randomnoize (Tor relay operator) <randomnoize@riseup.net>; randomnoize (Tor relay operator) <randomnoize2009@googlemail.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9319605DD9BFB5972272003BC0D6D2E999783C7256A75BF1BE08178A359F9542 ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: Public Exponent 35 is NOT PRIME ! User(s): ssh://2nieqevdp67ck5gr.onion; << i dun use tor, anyonr that does care to screrenshot a page ?
asciilifeform: jurov: e.g., tor nodes, have been substing btc addrs for yearz
deedbot-: [Qntra] DoctorClu Pleads Out Leaving CMU Tor Attack Unlikely To Be Contested In Court - http://qntra.net/2016/04/doctorclu-pleads-out-leaving-cmu-tor-attack-unlikely-to-be-contested-in-court/
shinohai: "Tor and Cloudflare continue to bicker over whose implementation is more broken" http://www.techtimes.com/articles/146920/20160404/tor-and-cloudflare-hurl-accusations-about-malicious-requests-flawed-methodology-at-each-other.htm
asciilifeform: 'Prince suggests that the incidents of CAPTCHA-challenge could be reduced if Tor adopted a plugin that could send ‘a cryptographically secure but anonymous token to services like CloudFlare in order to verify that the request is not coming from an automated system’. Draft code for the plugin has been provided by CloudFlare on GitHub.' << l0l!!
deedbot-: [Qntra] Cloudflare Pressures Tor Developers and Users To Implement Identifiers - http://qntra.net/2016/03/cloudflare-pressures-tor-developers-and-users-to-implement-identifiers/
asciilifeform: whole thing is quite reminiscent of tor.
trinque: This feature is independent of --use-tor and automagically uses Tor if available. << wahahahahaha
assbot: Logged on 29-02-2016 13:36:35; asciilifeform: ^ 'tor browser' eats dbus
asciilifeform: ^ 'tor browser' eats dbus ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'Launching Tor Browser Bundle for Linux in /tmp/tor-browser_en-US XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /tmp/tor-browser_en-US/Browser/libxul.so: libdbus-glib-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'
assbot: Silk Road 2.0 Case Confirms FBI And CMU Tor Attack Collaboration : DarkNetMarkets ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvVHSD )
mircea_popescu: "Again, according to the parties’ submissions, such a submission is made despite the understanding communicated by the Tor Project that the Tor network has vulnerabilities and that users might not remain anonymous." o oops, forgot to say "according to information first, and to date only published on trilema, [...]".
mircea_popescu: available materials regarding the Tor network."
assbot: Silk Road 2.0 Case Confirms FBI And CMU Tor Attack Collaboration : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qz4nJ4 )
assbot: Judge confirms what many suspected: Feds hired CMU to break Tor | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1TzwvRD )
asciilifeform: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/02/judge-confirms-what-many-suspected-feds-hired-cmu-to-break-tor << l0lzies
deedbot-: [Qntra] Silk Road 2.0 Case Confirms FBI And CMU Tor Attack Collaboration - http://qntra.net/2016/02/silk-road-2-0-case-confirms-fbi-and-cmu-tor-attack-collaboration/
assbot: Tor And HTTP Gzip Leak Local Time Zone | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1OtnYci )
pete_dushenski: http://qntra.net/2016/02/tor-and-http-gzip-leak-local-time-zone/#comment-46961 << damn straight a tmsr proerpty is 'worse' than reddit. meaner, leaner, nastier, and all the other libertard 'worse' boxes are rightfully ticked. just as it should be.
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 18:20:39; trinque: >automatic usage of tor when it's running
trinque: >automatic usage of tor when it's running ☟︎
assbot: Tor And HTTP Gzip Leak Local Time Zone | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1PSYdq7 )
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2016/02/tor-and-http-gzip-leak-local-time-zone/#comment-46911
assbot: Tor And HTTP Gzip Leak Local Time Zone | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1RiD74O )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2016/02/tor-and-http-gzip-leak-local-time-zone/#comment-46909
assbot: Tor And HTTP Gzip Leak Local Time Zone | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/219Xn0H )
asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2016/02/tor-and-http-gzip-leak-local-time-zone/#comment-46908
deedbot-: [Qntra] Tor And HTTP Gzip Leak Local Time Zone - http://qntra.net/2016/02/tor-and-http-gzip-leak-local-time-zone/
assbot: Logged on 02-10-2013 19:43:20; taub: Ulbricht posted on Stack Overflow using his real name, asking .How can I connect to a Tor hidden service using curl in php?.. One minute later he changed his username to .frosty., but a subpoena shows the original name.
assbot: 0 results for 'http://jcarlosnorte.com/security/2016/02/21/date-leak-gzip-tor.html' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fjcarlosnorte.com%2Fsecurity%2F2016%2F02%2F21%2Fdate-leak-gzip-tor.html
shinohai: !s http://jcarlosnorte.com/security/2016/02/21/date-leak-gzip-tor.html
BingoBoingo: dangerous for people who think twitter like tor is relevant to an anything
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 18:48:33; mats: even better when you remember the tor browser bundle is built on top of firefox
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403785 << the lulziest part there is that there's this entire subculture of tor punks. ☝︎
mats: even better when you remember the tor browser bundle is built on top of firefox ☟︎
maqp: Why not instead have a public repository of all public keys similar to Tor
maqp: But if you find Tor insecure and suspect someone is remotely breaching for example your Tails live session
maqp: I'll have to read the article. Tor sucks slides indicate it puts up a fight even against FVEY agencies
mircea_popescu: but anyway, tor has a miserable reputation here, publicly due to http://trilema.com/2013/dear-guardian-stop-being-retarded/ but otherwise ancient.
mircea_popescu: that was my point : that if he was going to barf over tor, which doesn't actually matter or significantly touch the scheme, might as well pick any other random unrelated item
mircea_popescu: rather than tor
ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-02-2016#1398951 << tor?! ☝︎
BingoBoingo: ioerror dude is tor developer. Bothering likely goes straight to fort meade
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: its "the tor project" they can't fit all of that into a single bozobit. Requires a whole base58 encoded xml bozo turd.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo this significantly changes the bozo bit on "the tor project" from "don't install that shit" to "don't install that shit".
BingoBoingo: lol, the Tor 'Tails' distro switched to systemd now
fluffypony: Tor says unable to connect
copypaste: But before he was doing that, he was making a distributed chan using the NNTP protocol and Tor/I2P
mircea_popescu: so like twitter-reddit on sane-tor
asciilifeform: to other .onion nodes if the control socket can be successfully opened. This will positively affect the number of available .onion nodes and their usage. This new feature is enabled by default if Bitcoin Core is listening, and a connection to Tor can be made.' << l0l!!
asciilifeform: 'Starting with Tor version 0.2.7.1 it is possible, through Tor's control socket API, to create and destroy 'ephemeral' hidden services programmatically. Bitcoin Core has been updated to make use of this. This means that if Tor is running (and proper authorization is available), Bitcoin Core automatically creates a hidden service to listen on, without manual configuration. Bitcoin Core will also use Tor automatically to connect
shinohai: https://twitter.com/hashbreaker/status/683653768358019072 "I like tor for all mah regular web browsing"
shinohai: ^ advocates running XT, Tor
copypaste: it's already like that on the tor network.
assbot: Logged on 26-12-2015 15:26:10; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353876 << so cheap is the octopus ink, but so laughably transparent - this idiocy is supposed to make folks forget about the tor 0day ?
mircea_popescu: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/27/business/dealbook/the-unsung-tax-agent-who-put-a-face-on-the-silk-road.html?_r=0 <<< ahaha check it out, the cover-up story is shaping up! it wasn't the usg using the holes in tor to try and steal some bitcoin, after which their agents stole most of it from them in turn. oh, no! it's a heroic guy that bla bla bla, just like in thye old soviet movies!
punkman: asciilifeform can't be bothered to read any more of the claptrap << aww you missed the part where the stick does wifi and tor
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353876 << so cheap is the octopus ink, but so laughably transparent - this idiocy is supposed to make folks forget about the tor 0day ? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform can finally delete tor...
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2015 10:37:14; BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/12/cmu-tor-attack-implicated-in-mannion-arrest/
assbot: CMU Tor Attack Implicated In Mannion Arrest | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/22mPsLo )
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/12/cmu-tor-attack-implicated-in-mannion-arrest/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so far all the efforts went more in the line of the earlierly discussed tor : nobody uses it but we keep pretending yet the propaganda machine's in place,
mircea_popescu: "That contrary to planted disinformation of which the Guardian article is a fine example, the NSA has complete and unlimited, instantaneous access to any and all information passed through the TOR network in its entirety, as a matter of course and by design."
mircea_popescu: funny how "everyone" pretends tor is actually somehow a thing.
shinohai: After reading the comments, it appears to be collective insanity. I don't run core anymore anyway but bolting on tor kills it.
mircea_popescu: lmao they are going to dump all that tor bs on top of all that openssl bs on top of all that boost bs on top of all that qt bs into the client ?
assbot: BitttBurger comments on Peter Todd: "Remember how we discussed adding Tor-by-default to Bitcoin Core? It'll be in v0.12!" ... ( http://bit.ly/1IfsfUw )
punkman: freenet design makes a lot more sense than tor
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-11-2015#1332394 << 'freenet' is the ORIGINAL 'tor' - usg honeynet ☝︎