asciilifeform: cruise ships << i am still at an utter loss what the appeal of cruise ship is
PeterL: mircea_popescu:pete_dushenski they claimed circle defrauded them, threatened to sue. never sued, disappeared. << was Dwolla, I don't think Circle was a thing yet then, but same idea
asciilifeform: changing from "o bitcoin will never succeed" to "o we missed the boat so unfair" << there was plenty of the latter even a year or two ago
PeterL: there was some "it was so unfair for the first adopters" when bitcoin hit 32 back in '11
asciilifeform: http://staff.salisbury.edu/~rafantini/grid_1550_and_1530.htm << for archaeologists/aficionados. BingoBoingo?
assbot: Grid 1550 and 1530 ... ( http://bit.ly/1E4kKdb )
asciilifeform: ^ much interesting historical curio on the site
punkman: wtf is bubble memory
asciilifeform: punkman: obsolete but - long ago - extremely hyped solid-state storage device
asciilifeform: worth reading about, interesting from engineering perspective
punkman: fun "a thin film of a magnetic material to hold small magnetized areas, known as bubbles or domains, each storing one bit of data."
asciilifeform: they pound out the frame using hammer press machines... I asked 'why don't you just use a cnc mill to shape the parts' << try to picture what the cost of -milling- a smooth object the size of a wing might be.
asciilifeform: (summary for n00bs: milling, in general, is ruinously expensive, and anything with considerable quantities of milled parts - even small ones - reflects this. e.g., high-quality small arms, racing engines, etc.)
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah that was kinda the answer I was expecting to get
decimation: but the 'docent' guy wasn't terribly familiar with the issues I gather
decimation: a skilled machinist's time isn't cheap either though
decimation: asciilifeform: re: cruise ship < well, there's a reason they say it's for the 'newlywed and nearly dead'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51350 @ 0.00032904 = 16.8962 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: what is the correct data representation for the amount of bitcoin in a transactino?
ben_vulpes: transaction*
ben_vulpes: double?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00032964 = 6.2467 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: int64
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell peterl right you are.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform was plenty of the latter even a year or two ago << yeah, but "preponderence of derpitude" standard.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes INTEGER noob
mircea_popescu: in other news, romanian classroom : http://33.media.tumblr.com/9063eb4bfa1651c5642d441a38052f26/tumblr_n0oow5Osap1rvs8tno1_400.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1A9yYpq )
thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/BTatL71.jpg << this is good
mircea_popescu: lol
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I wish I had gone to school in Romania.
mircea_popescu: wish instead that your wiminz weren't retarded.
mircea_popescu: i guess voice vs exit works here too huh.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33000 @ 0.00032537 = 10.7372 BTC [-] {2}
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-03-2015#1046237 << http://faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/theseus.html☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2015 20:27:50; decimation: at some point, are you just driving a replica?
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1A9A6cK )
[]bot: Bet created: "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/
cazalla: https://twitter.com/thereaxxion/status/574745846748704768/photo/1 lulz
assbot: Feels like something is missing from this picture... http://t.co/qi4D8QXfYr
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 94(Y):6(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,992.
decimation: danielpbarron: aye, one cannot step into the same waters twice, even if one pays dearly to try
[]bot: Bet placed: 7 BTC for No on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 13(Y):87(N) by coin, 13(Y):87(N) by weight. Total bet: 8.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,976.
decimation: lulz > http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/06/us/in-ferguson-some-who-are-part-of-problem-are-asked-to-be-part-of-solution.html < "The emails uncovered by the Justice Department included a cartoon portraying President Obama as a chimpanzee and a joke about giving a black woman a crime-prevention award for having an abortion.They were circulated widely, Justice Department officials said, and no discipline has been announced for those who
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1BXrkmE )
decimation: received the emails and said nothing."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00032979 = 1.8798 BTC [+]
punkman: s
thestringpuller: that paywall
decimation: thestringpuller: sorry, apparently I haven't used up my allotment yet :(
mircea_popescu: <assbot> Feels like something is missing from this picture <<< someone giving a shit ?
mircea_popescu: museum of abandoned booths
mircea_popescu: "no discipline has been announced for those who received the emails and said nothing." <<< lol wait, wut ? da usg stoolie programme ?
decimation: mircea_popescu: hehe yeah
decimation: maybe one day you too will receive a random ass email and 'say nothing'
mircea_popescu: used to be a time when that'd have been the absolute last thing one'd consider doing.
mircea_popescu: that also happened to be during the brief interval when the us was worth more than something stuck on someone's boot.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21364 @ 0.00033408 = 7.1373 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00032588 = 7.6908 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14036 @ 0.00033498 = 4.7018 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: asciilifeform: re: chromium > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Chrome-OS-Freon-Graphics < the other shoe dropped
assbot: Chrome OS Switches To "Freon" Graphics Stack To Replace X11 - Phoronix ... ( http://bit.ly/1C14NHk )
ben_vulpes: jesus fuck x11 as well!?
decimation: apparently google wants to get rid of x11 totally and replace it with their own graphics layer
ben_vulpes: but my .Xresources
ben_vulpes: i just learned how it works
ben_vulpes: sort of
decimation: that's probably why they threw a shitfit over the kernel api
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.0055 BTC for Yes on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.1055 BTC. Current weight: 99,916.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00033712 = 10.6193 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: decimation: l0l!!!
asciilifeform: decimation: 'chrome' writing straight to kernelspace
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah that's pretty much it
decimation: don't need yer stinking middleware
decimation: I wonder if they have an issue with the MIT license
asciilifeform: plus, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2015#1034779 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2015#1034780 ☝︎☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2015 21:09:34; asciilifeform: PeterL: most 'alternatives for x11' dispense with the everything-can-be-piped-over-tcp
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2015 21:09:47; asciilifeform: in favour of either nothing or winblows-style whole-display 'remote desktop' bullshit
asciilifeform: expect this turdalicious horror to spread to the rest of 'linux world'
decimation: indeed. it's like 'pulseaudio' for your graphics card
decimation: I don't blame the folks at google for trying to improve specific hardware products
decimation: I fault all those in the future (outside google) who are going to mindlessly adopt
ben_vulpes: what, though, should i be doing instead?
decimation: ben_vulpes: what's wrong with X11?
ben_vulpes: instead of doing whatever's imposed upon me by the world, i mean.
ben_vulpes: i won't do it mindlessly, and i won't go quietly into that dark night.
ben_vulpes: but i'm pretty sure with the state of modern consumer'pute'
ben_vulpes: i don't have much choice in the long run.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 88 @ 0.03410001 = 3.0008 BTC [-] {4}
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there is always choice.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95171 @ 0.00032109 = 30.5585 BTC [-] {4}
asciilifeform looking for l33t w4r3z, encounters not quite related: 'He cums inside Ada's mouth - Ada vacuums.avi'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29004 @ 0.000327 = 9.4843 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: !up Vexual
Vexual: hey
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26409 @ 0.00032218 = 8.5085 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6791 @ 0.00031739 = 2.1554 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: bah int64, round that shit down vuples
thestringpuller: !up Vexual
Vexual: angelina jolie has 10 kids from zero births when ya round down, and a mere photograph of one is worth 50k
ben_vulpes: now that's mining
Vexual: thats 1337
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj8JrQ9w5jY
Vexual: what ever happened to tat?
Vexual: is he a bank teller?
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iXcEdIZQYI or did he shift?
Vexual: me prolly headbutting chandilliers someplace
Vexual: *meh
cazalla: Vexual, he left for whale club
Vexual: i prefer seals, but gone
Vexual: well freeroll is anyway
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.000327 = 1.962 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: !up Vexual
Vexual: that romanian schoolgirl looks familiar, has she straightened her hair?
Vexual: no, just typical
thestringpuller: ;;google dib big head
gribble: Dib - Invader ZIM Wiki: <http://zim.wikia.com/wiki/Dib>; Why Is His Head So BIg? - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w7nY__e2DA>; WHY IS HIS HIS HEEAD SOO BIG - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvW5aynsB8I>
cazalla: i dunno, buterin's head is worse than that
[]bot: Bet placed: 8.1919 BTC for No on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 12(Y):88(N) by coin, 12(Y):88(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.2974 BTC. Current weight: 99,815.
Vexual: see holdems just bitbet, but the comments are weighted
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51047 @ 0.00032379 = 16.5285 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: https://vimeo.com/84655707
ben_vulpes: nice find, Vexual
Vexual: whats that?
Vexual: pup fiction?
Vexual: i reckon willie nelson might have an edge in a poker game
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29979 @ 0.00031242 = 9.366 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 286 @ 0.03384995 = 9.6811 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00031242 = 3.5147 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29802 @ 0.000312 = 9.2982 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: !up Vexual
Vexual: how scandinavian of you
Vexual: it's a pity it's gonna take google to put the steering wheel in the middle
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFldGN3bXBU
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00032469 = 2.6625 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: really, Vexual?
ben_vulpes: pina coladas?
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9muzyOd4Lh8
Vexual: its rhum with nothing
Vexual: and thats the gateway
Vexual: to india
Vexual: excellent estimators all
Vexual: youll need a bit of hindi tho, coz variety
Vexual: still money talks
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R99Ia4PpXIc
Vexual: ad says da fox
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.12989999 BTC for No on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 11(Y):89(N) by weight. Total bet: 18.4273 BTC. Current weight: 99,738.
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxjdg_D5YQY
ben_vulpes: oh dizee is still around?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47450 @ 0.00031162 = 14.7864 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 65 @ 0.0331 = 2.1515 BTC [-]
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.234567 BTC for Yes on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 17(Y):83(N) by weight. Total bet: 19.761867 BTC. Current weight: 99,681.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24950 @ 0.00031637 = 7.8934 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 58 @ 0.11 = 6.38 BTC [+]
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/so-i-found-the-libertard-motherlode/
cazalla: http://pando.com/2015/03/01/internet-privacy-funded-by-spooks-a-brief-history-of-the-bbg/ interesting read, probably not news to better read people here though
assbot: Internet privacy, funded by spooks: A brief history of the BBG | PandoDaily ... ( http://bit.ly/1AV1sT8 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00031715 = 6.4064 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13587 @ 0.0003238 = 4.3995 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 100 @ 0.0332 = 3.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00031774 = 6.1006 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12362 @ 0.00032469 = 4.0138 BTC [+]
[]bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for Yes on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 33(Y):67(N) by coin, 33(Y):67(N) by weight. Total bet: 24.761867 BTC. Current weight: 99,633.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6524 @ 0.00031415 = 2.0495 BTC [-]
punkman: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00031075 / 0.0003265 / 0.0003585 (895317 shares, 292.32 BTC), 7D: 0.00031075 / 0.00038154 / 0.0004493 (13500577 shares, 5,151.08 BTC), 30D: 0.00031075 / 0.00040351 / 0.00048515 (70295400 shares, 28,364.98 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 85 @ 0.0331 = 2.8135 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20150 @ 0.00031524 = 6.3521 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8059 @ 0.00032469 = 2.6167 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: height=264323 vs height=203586 (usb3: height=235343)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92250 @ 0.00032605 = 30.0781 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39290 @ 0.00031771 = 12.4828 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28658 @ 0.00032912 = 9.4319 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33798 @ 0.00033053 = 11.1713 BTC [+]
[]bot: Bet placed: 5.3450337 BTC for No on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 27(Y):73(N) by coin, 27(Y):73(N) by weight. Total bet: 30.1069007 BTC. Current weight: 99,491.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 242 @ 0.02716246 = 6.5733 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39600 @ 0.00033087 = 13.1025 BTC [+] {4}
jurov: hmm, bitbet is revving up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32350 @ 0.00032743 = 10.5924 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28603 @ 0.00031956 = 9.1404 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00032181 = 3.7008 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10954324_1614417682120822_4133398099030190010_n.jpg?oh=d9336ccf5b016ddaae978a8f68d0ae65&oe=557FF5BE&__gda__=1434224110_b0b11290689a6ee66b398aada73e3dd2
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxOBOQ )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45600 @ 0.00031512 = 14.3695 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8626 @ 0.00031436 = 2.7117 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 65 @ 0.02075383 = 1.349 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9747 @ 0.00031171 = 3.0382 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/573953967509630976 < l0l
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00031075 = 3.0764 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13220 @ 0.00031171 = 4.1208 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 125000 @ 0.00031031 = 38.7888 BTC [-] {4}
danielpbarron: I interacted with Jillian C. York in January 2012 about how twitter was filtering tweets about Jesus from the "top tweet" search (saw her name in that article about USG funded "internet privacy") >> https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/statuses/155721935785959424
assbot: Daniel P. Barron on Twitter: "@jilliancyork If they blocked it people would notice right away and cry foul. Tweets about Jesus are disqualified from "top tweets."" ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLA7xT )
danielpbarron: strangly enough, twitter doesn't like to show our conversation in one page for some reason, you have to click each tweet separately to see the context
danielpbarron: she admitted that I was right, but decided that it was either a bug, or an attempt to keep from "offending" christians
nubbins`: o.O
nubbins`: maybe it's an attempt to keep from offending non-christians
danielpbarron: right, that was my suspicion
nubbins`: speaking from my perspective as a canadian, the usa has a very strange relationship with religion
nubbins`: (phun phact, no roman catholic may ascend to the canadian throne!)
thestringpuller: less canadian terristas
thestringpuller: lots of merican terristas
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27640 @ 0.00032357 = 8.9435 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00032764 = 7.7651 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: very strange; seems as though bitcoind is causing my server to power-cycle all of a sudden
dignork: http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com.es/2015/03/exploiting-dram-rowhammer-bug-to-gain.html
assbot: Project Zero: Exploiting the DRAM rowhammer bug to gain kernel privileges ... ( http://bit.ly/1BpfrUH )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104200 @ 0.00033188 = 34.5819 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 96 @ 0.013333 = 1.28 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3827 @ 0.00033562 = 1.2844 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: rowhammer article << didn't we do that here a while ago?
ascii_field: but linked piece contains actual proof-of-concept code.
ascii_field: as usual, the virtues of avoiding 'modern' consumer-grade (i.e. non-ECC memory, in this case) products is on display here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12610 @ 0.00032718 = 4.1257 BTC [-]
ascii_field: summary for the impatient - arbitrary bit-flips induced from ring3 code on x86
ascii_field: because ddr3 ram is noise-sensitive garbage
mike_c: international money remittance without fincen. how is done? with a mobile app and a local 'cash dealer'.
mike_c: https://www.goabra.com/
assbot: Abra ... ( http://bit.ly/1C2kbmP )
mike_c: it's bitcoin, but not, but it uses it, but sort of.
ascii_field: mike_c: usually with 'hawala', works since 900 ad or so
mike_c: they mention that
mike_c: although they said "since 8th century"
ascii_field: thing is, actual hawala isn't a roundedcorners iPnohe turd app
ascii_field: but based on human WoTs
ascii_field: unlike the linked usg honeypot.
mike_c: i don't think that is usg honeypot. just misguided VC chumpatron.
ascii_field: cannot and must not recognize a difference between these.
mike_c: one is malicious, one is just stupid.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-02-2015#1014374 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2015 03:25:08; mircea_popescu: this is like asking wyatt earp "how do you distinguish between the f brothers and stray dog"
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-12-2014#958033 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2014 02:50:50; asciilifeform: the best place to hide a little malice is a gigantic pile of incompetence.
mike_c: heh. i can't argue with that.
ascii_field: and, to round it off, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2014#514280 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2014 19:12:31; mircea_popescu: because it is impossible to establish malice at all, a difference predicated upon establishing malice is meaningless.
mike_c: to be clear, i was not recommending that thing. just came across it today and thought I'd share the lulz.
mike_c: and how the hell did you know what a hawala was? i first saw that word today.
ascii_field: mike_c: hawala is as famous as anything gets, i thought
mike_c: americans are dumb.
ascii_field: even paraded by usg muppets in the state-controlled media as 't3rr0r1s7 f1n4nc3!!!111!!1111'
ascii_field: (any financial network the buggers don't control, of course, falls under this)
mike_c: well i guess that's what i am learning about today.
ascii_field: (for readers of my site: iirc i referred to bitcoin as 'mechanized hawala' in my first article on the subject)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00031592 = 12.8895 BTC [-] {3}
thestringpuller: mike_c: who doesn't know what a hawala is?
mike_c: now that I do, it appears nobody. I was the last one who didn't know.
danielpbarron: !up laurita
danielpbarron: !up HlySht
dignork: ascii_field: yep, there was a discussion on bitflip, but this one is too real, I wonder when active Xen exploit will drive DDR out of cloud business.
ascii_field: dignork: what normally happens in a case like this is - that the hole is sewn shut, but not completely shut - rather like 'infibulated' gurl partz in the middle east
ascii_field: it'll be narrowed so that usg has the only effective exploitatron for it, yes.
ascii_field: see the bios cas/ras timings being silently adjusted by vendors, mentioned in article
HlySht: Can anyone tell me who irdial/beautyon is? and why his opinion is held in high regard in the btc community?
danielpbarron: is it really held in high regard?
ascii_field: news to me
dignork: He is very active on twitter, sometimes fun to read.
danielpbarron: he's very spammy
HlySht: so he's just a regular bloke then
dignork: danielpbarron: well, libertarians do not have any other way of influence I suspect.
danielpbarron: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33750 @ 0.00030773 = 10.3859 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: http://www.silkscreeningsupplies.com/product/BBCBF2-2200SD
assbot: BBC 18x18 HW Flash Dryer, 120V, 2243W ... ( http://bit.ly/1AWWdC9 )
nubbins`: ^ add a servo motor and foot pedal for $800
thestringpuller: nubbins`: all you need now is indonesian children to work your factory
nubbins`: you mean filipino and they don't use flashes
nubbins`: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBojYrC8QuM
assbot: t shirt printing philippines - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1AWXCsz )
thestringpuller: definitely didn't see any children mr. nubbins`
nubbins`: arms too weak
ascii_field: lol re: new apple hardware released today being -slower- than previous
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00032325 = 3.6527 BTC [+] {2}
dignork: mike_c: hawala comes up a lot in discussions about remittance business.
mike_c: yeah, I read up a bit. I like it.
danielpbarron: !up ascii_field
danielpbarron: !up HlySht
ben_vulpes: !up The20YearIRCloud
The20YearIRCloud: Howdy
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
The20YearIRCloud: Need anything ben_vulpes ?
ben_vulpes: product vision and a six-month commitment at 20K/mo.
The20YearIRCloud: ha
ben_vulpes: i'll handle the rest.
thestringpuller: 240k a year?
thestringpuller: for what?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46232 @ 0.00030669 = 14.1789 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: 2-3 people on your project, no context switching penalties for mobile/backend/html, no technical management burden.
thestringpuller: is there a "trial version"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13857 @ 0.00030344 = 4.2048 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: less tha 6/mo :P
thestringpuller: 1 mo commitment to see if you are legit
thestringpuller: i have an amazing product vision tho
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ascii_field: ben_vulpes: 240k... 2-3 people << chinese slaves ?
The20YearIRCloud: what product is this?
danielpbarron: !up shesek
BingoBoingo: lol https://www.evernote.com/shard/s1/sh/669bdfd2-7fc5-4f8f-b33d-d09bf782f6ac/e5629dadd3c51594
assbot: user.riseup.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1BZucj2 )
BingoBoingo: scoopbot -fetch
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/03/tor-developers-set-funding-goal/
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ascii_field: BingoBoingo: 'riseup' << mega-l0l!
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: My impression of it has always been as a sort of zoo.
ascii_field doesn't recall ever hearing of it before
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: It's a fairly old service targeted towards activists explicitly.
ascii_field: the 'identity politics' idiocy is a kgb bomb set off in usa in the 1960s - at this point, a historical fact at least as well-established as the 'business plot' of the '30s
ascii_field: the participants, if told this, only make monkey noises. guaranteed.
BingoBoingo: amazing how it continues firing longer than any color revolution
ascii_field: because it's the ultimate d3m0cr4cy1111!!111! dope - reliable conveyor for enthroning mediocrities who then owe everything to the state
ascii_field: the designers of the weapon understood precisely which screw to turn in usa to make the 'engine governor' fall off and speed up the inevitable degringolade
ascii_field: i'd say 'ask them' but quite likely they're all buried at this point.
ascii_field: obligatory sov. joke:
ascii_field: wife says to drunken husband, 'every night you drink, drink, you never bring money home, you worthless piece of shit, go visit the cemetary - see how many gravestones say 'died of vodka.'..'
ascii_field: husband goes off, actually goes to count.
ascii_field: comes back, says,
ascii_field: 'i counted, read the cards on the wreaths. said things like, 'from wife', 'from son', 'from mother-in-law' - but none said 'from vodka.' nobody died from vodka.'
BingoBoingo: lol
jurov: ben_vulpes what about VAN then? it had no product vision?
thestringpuller: ascii_field: how's the field today good sir?
thestringpuller: I"m also po'ed duolingo doesn't teach russian
ascii_field: thestringpuller: snorematic
cazalla: omg fuck this guy http://i.imgur.com/SmDox6p.png those goggles..
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bk39yh )
danielpbarron: oh nice! I don't have that block yet.. http://danielpbarron.com/blocked.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bk3lgU )
cazalla: danielpbarron, lol ethereum blocked you? buterin is yet to block me even though i cuss him out 100 worse than i did gavin
mike_c: isn't there a shadowban? ignore or something?
danielpbarron: mute is a somewhat new feature to twitter
cazalla: mike_c, not sure, i've never blocked/ignored anyone tbh
danielpbarron: if i'm not mistaken, "block" causes all future replies to not attach in the continuity of the conversation, whereas mute just makes them invisible to the muter
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> ben_vulpes: 240k... 2-3 people << chinese slaves ? << nobody ever said how many hours.
ben_vulpes: jurov: fine on the vision, budget was simply my spare time.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: what's the braindamage in this "mill" processor?
ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: mill processor ?
ascii_field: did i miss something
ben_vulpes: http://millcomputing.com/docs/
assbot: docs / videos / slides | Mill Computing, Inc ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bk4sxd )
ben_vulpes: trips all sorts of bezzletronic alerts for me, but i lack the context to make judgements.
ascii_field: damn it it ought to be in the logs
ascii_field: but can't find
ben_vulpes: i actually don't recall a thread.
ben_vulpes: and searches return nada.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: basically, a rebranding of academiwank 'systolic processor'
ascii_field: they've no hardware, of course.
ascii_field: marketing materials promise elaborate, 'smart' cpu crud (branch prediction even more complicated than on extant x86, code that executes even less deterministically, etc.)
ascii_field: surprised that usg hasn't funded them yet.
ascii_field: i went through their material ages ago, and it set off quite a few of the 'scammer heuristics' in my head
ascii_field: most of all the fact of claiming credit (implicitly) for decades of the work of other, genuinely original folks.
ascii_field: plus the 'gimme money' aspect.
nubbins`: http://time.com/3026192/this-is-what-bae-means/
assbot: This Is What 'Bae' Means ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bk5zgb )
nubbins`: TIME DOT COM
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: see also, relevant, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-03-2015#1043600 and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-03-2015#1046036 ☝︎☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 00:38:12; mircea_popescu: be it google or apple, it can fucking rot. everything will have to be reimplemented.
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2015 18:43:30; asciilifeform: perhaps this is worth a brief digression:
ascii_field: i'd argue that these folks -simply don't get to- design cpu any more.
ascii_field: everything they do is 'guilty until proven innocent', which is to say, until independently arrived at by WoT folks.
ascii_field: 'you were a usg academic? hope you like picking fruit.'
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 113 @ 0.01589381 = 1.796 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15151 @ 0.00030242 = 4.582 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2015#1046532 << i can see why, x is fucking retarded.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 03:27:02; decimation: apparently google wants to get rid of x11 totally and replace it with their own graphics layer
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: there is not a non-retarded alternative today
ascii_field: or anything remotely close
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: but really, steal keyboard stream because "Whatever, it's also under x" ?
ascii_field: mm no.
ascii_field: doesn't happen on my box.
ascii_field: trivial fix
mircea_popescu: trivial FIX ?
mircea_popescu: fuck this shit.
ascii_field: aha
ascii_field: let's rephrase: it's a wm misbehaviour
ascii_field: not x11's
mircea_popescu: "my house doesn't have a hole in the roof - trivial fix" "whatever, i'm not dealing with those imbeciles".
mircea_popescu: hm.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00030242 = 2.5857 BTC [-]
ascii_field: 'ratpoison', 'polite mode'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00030242 = 6.2299 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: how is it not x's ? (not sure if 11 specifically0
ascii_field: because x per se doesn't impose the retardation
mircea_popescu: but it allows it.
ascii_field: it also allows user to shoot himself in the head
ascii_field: or give his btc to sc4mz0rz
ascii_field: or marry a scold
mircea_popescu: x has no fucking business telling another process on its dealings with a process.
mircea_popescu: and the fact that this very fundamental principle is not precisely observed makes me not care whether x or chrome wins. they're the same shit.
ascii_field: if they're both x-using, and both connected to same x server, then yes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22339 @ 0.00031268 = 6.985 BTC [+]
ascii_field: and yes, it's crufty '80s turd
mircea_popescu: how about, no.
mircea_popescu: http://33.media.tumblr.com/1e898bee9635052cc3d969664951f562/tumblr_mj2ankuq7X1qktnjdo1_400.gif << x at her hiring interview.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FBsTpo )
ascii_field agrees. so long as the answer isn't 'here have a little rectangle of rdesktop crapolade instead of screen-filling display-agnostic remote gui on your giant vertical lcd'
mircea_popescu: x should work like fucking pinentry.
mircea_popescu: but hey, why confront and resolve the hard problems ? inheritance systems for the user input, explicitly set bvy the user etc ? o noes, gotta be simple
mircea_popescu: well, that's what chrome does too : simple rather than correct and easy rather than useful.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2015#1046656 << lol, the new Tough Derp look is oddly adequate.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 14:48:15; thestringpuller: https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/573953967509630976 < l0l
mircea_popescu: knocked out retired boxers should look like knocked out retired boxers.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2015#1046696 << is it actually vc stuff or just aspie stuff ? (from aspirational rather than asperger's, tho...)☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 17:31:55; mike_c: i don't think that is usg honeypot. just misguided VC chumpatron.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2015#1046709 << behold the wonder!☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 17:36:47; mike_c: americans are dumb.
mircea_popescu: !s hawala
assbot: 23 results for 'hawala' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hawala
mircea_popescu: !s hawalah
assbot: 0 results for 'hawalah' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hawalah
mircea_popescu: !s hundi
assbot: 0 results for 'hundi' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hundi
dignork: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/24/comodo_ssl_privdog/
assbot: SSL-busting adware: US cyber-plod open fire on Comodo's PrivDog • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1FBxCay )
dignork: Not as lame as superfish, but still fun.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19485 @ 0.00029917 = 5.8293 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 139387 @ 0.0003135 = 43.6978 BTC [+] {4}
mike_c: mircea_popescu: inbetween aspirational and funded. i heard about them because they got "best of" at reasonably big tech conference. my curiousity is mostly around the brazen attempt to do money remittance in US without being licensed.
mike_c: s/inbetween/between/
thestringpuller: mike_c: hawala doesn't require money license
mike_c: mhm. tell the US that.
thestringpuller: well this is why US hated hawala during "war on terror" beginnings
thestringpuller: there was a lot of "hawala is bad" propaganda
thestringpuller: (the US claimed 9/11 was funded with the ultiization of hawala)
thestringpuller: s/with/through/g
ben_vulpes: i will find whoever decided to return 200 from this endpoint and encode the error in xml
ben_vulpes: by the holy dogfucking jesus i will find them
BingoBoingo: !up HeySteve
HeySteve: hello
BingoBoingo: hey
mircea_popescu: mike_c see, the way i've observed this to work is like this : 1) usg makes imbecile law ; 2) society is aghast ; 3) teenaged muppets make bold claim that jives with societal expectation, blatantly in contradiction with usg policy.
mircea_popescu: then 4a) if society bites the bait, they "change their mind" "learn better" "unfortunately..." "they were just kids" etc, the circle / dwolla /etc playbook
mircea_popescu: or else 4b) if society doesn't bite the bait, they "street cred" because were going to 4evar totally do it.
mircea_popescu: seems a decent gameplan. if you're a stanford/harvard business major, or similar scum.
mike_c: i'd love to be a fly on the wall in the pitch meetings though when the investor says "so how are you not going to jail?"
mike_c: because in the game you described, the VCs are getting taken for a ride. which happens of course, but this just seems so obviously illegal.
cazalla: today is typically the busiest day for news but it is dead
cazalla: Pierre_Rochard, pull the pin on twitter eh?
Pierre_Rochard: cazalla:
Pierre_Rochard: yup
Pierre_Rochard: and every other social media thingy I had in my password manager
Pierre_Rochard: have to manually contact customer support at linkedin to get that removed… the lengths they’ll go to keep the serfs on the domaine
cazalla: well, i will miss your art retweets
thestringpuller: i blame bitpay
thestringpuller: jkjk
thestringpuller: Pierre_Rochard: my dad raves about LinkedIn.
thestringpuller: when in reality I get tons of spam from it
Pierre_Rochard: cazalla: ya know, when I started seeing the same art pieces from history of europe’s feed popping up, I knew it was the end
Pierre_Rochard: thestringpuller: it’s the bezzle-wot. Great because of the wot part, spammy and diminished by the bezzle part
thestringpuller: super spammy
thestringpuller: "Hey thestringpuller, would you like to hear about this wonderful development opportunity with a fast growing company you've never heard of?!?!?"
thestringpuller: i get like at least 4-7 of those a month
Pierre_Rochard: ^ humble bragger!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00032601 = 4.3033 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: it's spam tho! from the sketchiest of recruiters.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36279 @ 0.00032512 = 11.795 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5977 @ 0.00032512 = 1.9432 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: !up saifedean
mircea_popescu: mike_c in all probability the last pitch meeting where the investors asked something sensible was cca 2002.
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by thestringpuller: http://qntra.net/2015/03/digital-hawala-for-the-poor/
mircea_popescu: anyway, "society" is broad. the vc game is just to flip the ponzi to larger fools. they succeed 55% of the time or so.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, the pension funds end up hodling anyway, and the fed rescues them, and here we are.
saifedean: my working theory is that any "entrepreneur" who engages in any form of 'event' about start-ups or entrepreneurship is not an entrepreneur, and has nothing interesting to offer the world. if they did have something interesting, they wouldn't have time for wankery
thestringpuller: ;;later tell pete_dushenski you're referenced in latest qntra article
gribble: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: that sounds like a great video game premise for learning purposes. "Flip the ponzi"
mircea_popescu: saifedean this is the prevailing view by now imo
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the "questions asked" : in a total nod to asciilifeform's "merit washing" ideas, by now the point isn't even to have any sort of product, as it hasn't been for decades, noreven any sort of plan. they "invest" in "great teams", nao. "kids will figure it out later".
saifedean: there is such a giant start-up culture in lebanon these days thanks to Central Bank bezzle, everyone and their dog wants to make a start-up... nobody wants to actually do something, just pontificate on start-ups and entrepreneurship
saifedean: the central bank here is probably the world's best, the currency has the highest gold cover of any currency in the world, they banned the banks from investing in any securities and compeltely avoided the 2008 meltdown...
saifedean: but...
mircea_popescu: what will the kids figure out later ? oh, that - to go no further than latest trilema - jared son of charles got 40mn "investment" from x and y while charles was in jale because campaign donations and other issues related to x and y.
mircea_popescu: "entrepreneur".
mircea_popescu: saifedean lebanon sounds more and more like romania - 10 years.
saifedean: the socialistards have been pressing for start-up funding and environmental projects, and the CB has obliged with some low-interest loans and funding conferences and start-ups and publicity... what could possibly go wrong
mircea_popescu: in lebanon ? nothing really, srsly nao. buncha town dwelling wasters get ot be all excited for a summer.
mircea_popescu: this exact thing was a problem, written down as such, exact words, in 1914. and since forever : central government attracts town loafers, who then derp about.
saifedean: oh no, there's a lot of ruin to be made in this place, and the socialist scum have been trying in vain for decades...
mircea_popescu: like what ?
mircea_popescu: !up HlySht
mircea_popescu: !gettrust beautyon
assbot: beautyon is not registered in WoT.
saifedean: this is really one of the last civilized places in the world, because it's got the hardest currency in the world... you can see lack of socialist decivilization in everything here...
mircea_popescu: tell me specifics ?
saifedean: before civil war in 1975, currency was 91% backed by gold, almost a gold standard
mircea_popescu: how can it be 91% backed ?
saifedean: the entire civil war drama was basically communist-funded trash trying to destroy the central bank and currency
mircea_popescu: !s rhodesia
assbot: 33 results for 'rhodesia' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=rhodesia
saifedean: the value of the gold in the central bank's reserves at market price was equal to 91% of the value of all the currency
danielpbarron: thestringpuller, "A screenshot of the Abra app" << should this not be hosted on qntra?
mircea_popescu: saifedean o.O
mircea_popescu: that's pretty heavy.
mircea_popescu: is this factual or declaratory ?
saifedean: the fact that this place has almost-hard money makes a real difference: there is no bezzle here, there has never been a stock market crash, housing crash, or any kind of business cycle
saifedean: people don't really have shitty bezzle careers, they have actual productive jobs making useful things... like furniture and food
mircea_popescu: state of the art spamatron, for the curious : http://dpaste.com/1FPT1XY
assbot: dpaste: 1FPT1XY ... ( http://bit.ly/18woNDU )
mircea_popescu: saifedean impressive.
mircea_popescu: lebanon, eh ? who knew.
saifedean: it was 91% before the war, then the socialist scum managed to fuck shit up in the war, and destroyed the currency in 1983, it went from 3 Liras/USD to around 2,000Lira/USD
saifedean: but then when the rubble settled down, the central bank set the currency at 1500 Lira/USD in 1992 and it has not budged since
saifedean: the reason is that they still have sizeable gold reserves, unlike the rest of the world's troglodyte central bankers chasing returns and playing etrade accounts with their reserves
mircea_popescu: so if i want to rent a flat in beirut, what'd it run me ?
ben_vulpes: lebanon?!
saifedean: for something really nice... $2000-$4000
saifedean: and by nice, i mean nicer than pretty much anything you've seen
saifedean: views on the mediterranean and the snow-covered mountains... 24 hour delivery services to get you anything you could possibly imagine
saifedean: very safe and secure, friendly and outgoing happy people
mircea_popescu: yeah, but they have to compete with ohio's 150 a month or w/e it was.
saifedean: and some of the world's best food, women, and wine...
mircea_popescu: yeah except if syria falls over it'll flatten it.
saifedean: im not even lebanese, i went to university here, then lived in london and new york... the move from beirut to these anglo shit-holes was a culture shock, there is no comparison... as soon as i finished my phd and got an offer from a lebanese university, i didnt hesitate move back
saifedean: yeah, the fear of the country falling over is what keeps it so wonderfully beautiful, as it keeps out all the unwanted visitors :D
mircea_popescu: lol
saifedean: it'd be swimming with british stag dos and russian billionaires otherwise
punkman: maybe good time to invest in sailboat
mircea_popescu: no but seriously, there's what, half a million muslims refugeed there now ?
mircea_popescu: suppose that goes to 2mn, or 5.
mircea_popescu: o look, most recent political assasination fifteen months ago.
saifedean: this place went through 15 years of civil war though, everyone has had their fill, and nobody wants a repeat, and people are far, far, more careful than in other places... people hjave just learned to ignore all the drama and live their life... all the "violence" and "insecurity" after all, does not amount to half of a chicago
mircea_popescu: !up HFSPLUS
HFSPLUS: whats up everyone
mircea_popescu: you.
saifedean: there's tons of refugees from syria, but they mostly come here and work, there's no welfare state to speak of so immigration is not really a problem
mircea_popescu: saifedean from where i sit the only sane reason to go to lebanon would be the same as 1k years ago : to start a crusade.
mircea_popescu: as im not terribly in the mood...
assbot: Need a search term.
mircea_popescu: saifedean yes, but they support "ideas", and then soon enough vote, and riot.
asciilifeform: meowmix is back!
HFSPLUS: !s meowmix
assbot: 25 results for 'meowmix' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=meowmix
HFSPLUS: what did i do?
asciilifeform: ferphuckssake
saifedean: i've traveled the world and never seen a place better, the more i travel the more i fall in love with this place...
saifedean: hard money, dude!
mircea_popescu: saifedean sounds a lot like very early romanian. what do they speak even, misr ?
HFSPLUS: ;;seen meowmix
HFSPLUS: ;;seen meowmix
gribble: meowmix was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 22 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 58 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <meowmix> !b 50
asciilifeform: saifedean: 2-4k/mo is washington price.
punkman: saifedean: hard money, dude! << but pegged to the dollar?
asciilifeform: !up saifedean
saifedean: washington is a fucking shit-hole, i wouldn't live in it if you paid me 20k a week instead of rent, there's no city worse on the planet
mircea_popescu: punkman actually exports are funnay 20% gold 5% jewelry 5% diamonds. total jew country.
mircea_popescu: sounds like israel's new jersey
mircea_popescu: saifedean bucharest's easily worse.
saifedean: pegged to the dollar, but since the dollar is always falling, and the CB's gold reserves aren't, this makes the CB very comfortable
mircea_popescu: imagine all the stupid of wash dc done louder by stupider people. also in a swamp.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'stupider' exists !?! outside of africa, even ?
mircea_popescu: saifedean what of this 150% gdp in foreign debt ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oh yes.
saifedean: but DC is the major league of stupid... the stupidest and scummiest of beirut and bucharest and everywhere else go to play in the majors in DC
mircea_popescu: and 10bn in remittances. lebanon is absolutely romania cca 1995.
HFSPLUS: who is meowmix
HFSPLUS: how can i get rich off of bitcoin
asciilifeform: !down HFSPLUS
asciilifeform: him.
saifedean: yeah, the debt is enormous, and the CB keeps the government on a tight leash with it... banks are all well-capitalized and keep rolling over the debt for the government... but the government can never go crazy and do 5-year-plans or giant infrastructure projects or whatever
asciilifeform: <HFSPLUS> noooooooooooo waaaaaaaaaaaa * HFSPLUS has quit (Quit: Leaving) << mega-l0l
asciilifeform asks, can we get a better class of 'elizas' here plz.
mircea_popescu: we will once you're done playing with these ones.
saifedean: i lived in DC for a summer and interacted with the residents... my theory is that DC has collected every single shitty asshole/teacher-pet/snitch/scummy loser from every single high school in the world to go live there... no matter where you were in the world, if you were a terrible piece of shit in high school, you found a way to get to DC by age 30
mircea_popescu: saifedean california worked that way previously.
mircea_popescu: but then they started cutting up the hitchhikers
saifedean: the lawyers are the best people in DC, and that says a lot
asciilifeform: saifedean: i actually went to a special school where they manufactured these!
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: saifedean incidentally, being a snitch is a legal obligaiton for usians now.
asciilifeform: it was 50y ago too, theoretically
asciilifeform: like in any other totalitarian pisshole
asciilifeform: 'failure to report crime, crime'
mircea_popescu: i dunno... the "i'm not a snitch" thing floats to the point of "what is an american' in my head.
asciilifeform: distinct from the official letter of the law
saifedean: i don't really understand how anyone could want to live in the US in this day and age... anybody who chooses to go live there is essentially an other-determined dweeb who cannot think for themselves and just follows what the tv tells them
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2015#1046741 << such lolz. EMPIRE STRIKES BACK!!1☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 18:20:42; ascii_field: lol re: new apple hardware released today being -slower- than previous
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was an actual 'news'. today they advertised various machinery, with slower clock than a year ago.
asciilifeform: no one, so far (afaik) has said anything.
mircea_popescu: saifedean people generally have an inborn, deeply selected ability to only hear parts. so, through this approach "we pay you 10k in salary on the condition you spend no less than 11k a month" sounds like a good deal.
mircea_popescu: "hey, that's 5x what i make here!"
asciilifeform: ^ california, sv, etc. in one paragraph.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and unlike the nkvd, they didn't even have to twist anyone's arm to keep quiet.
saifedean: "and hey! When I exercise my god-given right to diabetes... Obamacare will be there for me"
asciilifeform: i saw the figure and went 'wtf, what is this, some weirdo VLIW cpu with perversely spiffy pipelining?!' then rememberd 'nope, this is a garden-variety 'pentium m' box...'
mircea_popescu: i wonder if diabethes and gout will become punishable offenses in the us the way all sorts of "psychological" imagined stuff is.
mircea_popescu: they WERE in soviet russia after all, kulak's diseases.
asciilifeform: saifedean: except that it's a transparent scam, i, for instance, have the highest grade 'insurance' publicly sold in my locale, and it still offers nothing like the conditions found in civilized world
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so is this sheer incompetence, or is china ever so delicately strangling them ? "first, you get them made for free. then, you get them made for ten dolla, but you have to give us the blueprints. then, we only make them for you out of 2nd best items. and then... wait, you're still here ?!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not afaik. looks more like 'shrinkflation'
asciilifeform: like the canned soups that are more and more water by mass each year
mircea_popescu: aha.
asciilifeform: !s shrinkflation
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asciilifeform: didn't think it would apply to cpu so soon.
asciilifeform: and that no one would stampede over it
asciilifeform: ;;google new macbook slower
saifedean: my brother is in med school and today he reported to me that according to the latest DSM, 25% suffer from psychiatric disorders... won't be long before they get this up to 100%
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mircea_popescu: i don't think the average smartphone user is smart enough to know what the cpu does.
saifedean: Yes We Can!
mircea_popescu: saifedean you familiar with tlp's blog ?
asciilifeform: but the traditional '90s obsession over clocks...
asciilifeform: gone? lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that was a different generation of kids. that weren't mentally retarded.
saifedean: i should have said: "25% of americans suffer from..."
saifedean: oh yes
asciilifeform: saifedean: as tlp describes, the 'disorders' are a socially-acceptable means to get officially approved to take various psychotropic drugs, for those who go in for this
asciilifeform: also, (see also tlp), to get gov. pensions, for politically-favoured ethnics
mircea_popescu: in the 70s, the occasional girl that went "i prefer older men" was kind of a freak. in the 90s, it was common enough. by now... i don't think any girl with options goes for boys her age. and so... there's your overclocking.
asciilifeform: what about plato's formula?
saifedean: if you want to go a little bit beyond TLP, try a man by the name of Jon Rappoport, and don't be intimidated by the cookiness... this guy was onto this stuff decades before TLP... and is far ahead
asciilifeform: nobody cancelled it
asciilifeform: girl = 1/2boy + 7 or what was it
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: saifedean the way this works is you have ot link it
asciilifeform: lol, rappoport! directly affiliated with d. icke, iirc? who gave us the lizards ?
saifedean: https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/05/07/the-lying-liars-who-lie-about-psychiatry/
assbot: The lying liars who lie about psychiatry « Jon Rappoport's Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/18wrOnH )
asciilifeform: http://www.nomorefakenews.com << him ?
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saifedean: dont think he's affiliated with icke or lizard people
saifedean: he also wrote a mind-blowin book called AIDS, Inc...
asciilifeform: 'THERE ARE NO DEFINITIVE LABORATORY TESTS FOR ANY SO-CALLED MENTAL DISORDER.' << this is known to anyone with even a vague, passing interest in the subject.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it ius a kinda common name
mircea_popescu: how exactly would such a test go ?
mircea_popescu: seems impossible by definition
asciilifeform: sorta like the 'if it works, it's not AI' thing
asciilifeform: or 'if it prospers none dare call it treason'
mircea_popescu: right
saifedean: http://www.amazon.com/AIDS-Inc-Scandal-Jon-Rappoport/dp/0941523039
assbot: AIDS Inc.: Scandal of the Century: Jon Rappoport: 9780941523035: Amazon.com: Books ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENjGvP )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2015#1046789 << best russian joke imo☝︎
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