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cazalla: lol they've closed the airspace over Sydney over a couple dudes in a cafe
undata: cazalla: that's how you can tell they're tough on terrorism
undata: that PM you guys have seems like the Bush from Down Under
cazalla: new PM same as old PM, all useless and illegitimate
cazalla: speaking of our PM, whoever is in the chocolate shop says they have devices planted around the city, demanding to speak to PM on live radio ha
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BingoBoingo: !up blue
BingoBoingo: !up BlueMeanie4
BlueMeanie4: seasons greetings freinds
BlueMeanie4: whats the word?
BingoBoingo: I imagine there are a lot of words
BlueMeanie4: what are the good ones
BingoBoingo: Puppies?
BingoBoingo: The Detroit lions tailgate, where butthole was on the menu? http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Qw_Ja3me--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/qinv93edltweelefqvyq.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1wR8gWp )
BlueMeanie4: im hoping this isnt the chitlins pic
BlueMeanie4: anyway, huge frauds afoot
BlueMeanie4: anyone in Germany?
BingoBoingo: We have enough frational germans here to assemble a whole german
BlueMeanie4: lots of really interesting info coming out re. Tor
BingoBoingo: Yeah
BlueMeanie4: and all the agencies surrounding this project
BlueMeanie4: most of them are in Berlin
BingoBoingo: Well, the city has a history of that.
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mircea_popescu: <cazalla> speaking of our PM, whoever is in the chocolate shop says they have devices planted around the city, demanding to speak to PM on live radio ha << pretty cool.
mircea_popescu: nothing quite like a humiliated pm live by someone holding a gun.
mircea_popescu: !up hktud0
cazalla: mircea_popescu, he won't do it, they don't negotiate with terrorists or smething
mircea_popescu: yaya.
mircea_popescu: then they covertly pay whenever got by the balls.
cazalla: hopefully shit at the chocolate shop escalates, it's disappointing so far
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mircea_popescu: one day landwhale was off buying chocolate tubs,
mircea_popescu: then allovasudden she's held at gunpoint!
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BingoBoingo: http://christinetsai.co/post/105046916171/8-tricks-to-appear-like-an-important-vc
assbot: christine's brain • 8 Tricks to Appear Like An Important VC ... ( http://bit.ly/1BFFB4Y )
mircea_popescu: except christine tsai is not an important vc.
mircea_popescu: she was if i recall some gofer/"product manager" for google is all.
BingoBoingo: Of course, but... When random derps on the tumblrs can spot this sort of shit.
cazalla: 7. Hold meetings at a non-mainstream coffee shop. <<< good advice
BingoBoingo: Derp X, Here's how to pretend to be the Y set of Derps.
thestringpuller: d00d
thestringpuller: read #1 and already feel like this is 8 things to not do
thestringpuller: "A surefire way to look well-connected and important is to reference reputable investors or founders by first name." that seems slightly disrespectful
mircea_popescu: someone does that about say me, everyone instantly knows he never had the good luck to be in the same room with me.
thestringpuller: Be late to meetings?!?!?!?!?
thestringpuller: what?
mircea_popescu: obviously, i'm not alone. but no, to the parallel universe puppies everyone's like... you know, them.
BingoBoingo: Well, parallel universe
thestringpuller: so apparently she manages this: http://500.co/
thestringpuller: "Meet our badass, global family of startup founders, mentors, and investors"
thestringpuller: So YCombinator clone?
mircea_popescu: not even. it's basically a derpy website
mircea_popescu: 500pixels clone
mircea_popescu: which in turn is a deviantart clone, 10 years late.
thestringpuller: I'm looking at their alumni...and it's like...
thestringpuller: http://famebit.com/ << marketing for derps
mircea_popescu: "meet a collection of idiots from the intrernet who will think they're on a first name basis with you in spite of not actually having a bank account, and will be late to meetings at places where they can't afford to eat".
mircea_popescu: sounds like a killer value prop.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Something has to be important or a school to have Alumni. 1950's Nasa has Alumni, random college has alumni, random wankfest does not.
cazalla: http://www.2gb.com/listen-live if ya wanna listen to drama in .au go down, apparently this radio dude has spoken to hostage holders but won't put em on the air yet
thestringpuller: Featured Wannabe Startups that were gestated in 500's accelarator is just a bit too long
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo words exist for inept marketeers to try and sell them right ?
thestringpuller: shippo has an okay value proposition but not really useful in its current incarnation
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course and once things that the words apply to lose any scarcity who cares about that word, next!
BingoBoingo remembers finding out that the Alumni association considered anyone who attended for four semesters and Alumni without any regard as to... graduation
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: that reminds me of huxely. Take all meaning out of a word as described in his book _Words and Their Meanings_
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Well, the fucking french with Derrida encouraged it in the name of socialism and now social media marketers do it pretending to do capitalism.
thestringpuller: "A great deal of attention has been paid . . . to the technical languages in which men of science do their specialized thinking . But the colloquial usages of everyday speech, the literary and philosophical dialects in which men do their thinking about the problems of morals, politics, religion and psychology . these have been strangely neglected. We talk about "mere matters of words" in a tone which implies that we regard word
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: social media marketing has pretty much killed any respect one would get as a copywriter
mircea_popescu: quite.
thestringpuller: it's perverted the profession as a whole.
mircea_popescu: before that, amateur/gonzo porn killed any respectone would have gotten as a porn star.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: have you seen Boogie Nights?
mircea_popescu: and even before that, "elected" derps killed any respect one could have had for leadership
mircea_popescu: i did but i didn't care so much for it. kinda plastic-y imo.
thestringpuller: Ah. I thought it was interesting they pointed out how amateur porn destroyed the artistic nature of "old school" porn.
mircea_popescu: except their crew and screenwriters suck so bad, the old school as depicted by them is a scary abomination
thestringpuller: True.
thestringpuller: You can romantacize anything.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, the old school from deepthroat to brazzers is this kinda fun thing.
BingoBoingo: The Brazzers people have integrity to the craft.
mircea_popescu: yes, but also don't have the sort of power that had traci lords fuck dogs.
BingoBoingo: No they don't
mircea_popescu: pornography without political clout is like power tools without electricity.
thestringpuller: As mircea_popescu points out in his article on YCombinator (Facebook lining up a billion idiots of investors), I wonder if the the world Mike Judge envisioned in Idiocracy is possible.
mircea_popescu: i certainly met plnety of buttheads...
thestringpuller: Where people begin to belive the derps are professionals because no one knows any better.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: It's largely here for a good portion of the population. The people who won't water the flowers or the garden without "Miracle Grow" and such.
BingoBoingo: Sure, fertilizer has nutrients that help plants grow, but so do last year's dead plants.
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thestringpuller: So eventually plants start dying because we water them with gatorade because "they have electrolytes".
BingoBoingo: It would be interesting if a large portion of humanity couldn't make it to the year 300 because even the corn became diabetic.
BingoBoingo: !up huseby
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mircea_popescu: !up bgupta
BingoBoingo: !up starsoccer
BingoBoingo: Hello starsoccer
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BingoBoingo: scoopbot -fetch
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2014/12/the-antidote-to-ransomware-prevention/
BingoBoingo: scoopbot: Good boy!
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mircea_popescu: !up zebedee
decimation: it'll be interesting to see if the us stock market blows its top this week
decimation: should be bullish for bitcoin in fiat
decimation: re: "there's no inflation" << if you look at assets that are close to the bezzle this is obviously false http://cdn2.blog-media.zillowstatic.com/1/SECMI-Infographic-01-9e5cc6.png << manhattan real estate for instance
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IRrLBg )
decimation: http://www.zillow.com/east-hampton-ny/home-values/ << hamptons are about 2x since 2005
assbot: East Hampton Home Prices and Home Values - Zillow ... ( http://bit.ly/1IRrYEE )
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mircea_popescu: decimation course.
mircea_popescu: the inflation is immense. back in the 80s, a 2k monthy salary made one comfortable
mircea_popescu: today it's what, 10k.
decimation: heh it depends where one is living, but yeah
mircea_popescu: not really that much.
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's 8.5% a year for two decades
decimation: I think part of that is explained by the fact that most us couples now both work
mircea_popescu: two decades during which NOTHING paid anywhere remotely like 8%. not bonds, not stocks.
mircea_popescu: then people wonder why everyone, from china to russia, thumbs their noses at the us poverty.
decimation: it is interesting how quickly "women should be able to do anything men can do!!" fliipped into "women must work so that they can afford good schools, low crime neighborhoods, etc"
decimation: the other thing that I found amusing is the completely simultaneous moves in the stock market over the past few years
decimation: what does it mean when the price of every asset in a marketplace changes simultaneously in the same direction? http://finviz.com/map.ashx
assbot: S&P 500 Map Heatmap ... ( http://bit.ly/1zmM7gj )
decimation: currency manipulation pops to mind...
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mircea_popescu: it strictly means price fixing / fraud
mircea_popescu: yup.
BingoBoingo: I dunno, here house prices roughly halved
decimation: ;;ticker
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BingoBoingo: Here the trend seems to have been if the wife is working each can be paid half
decimation: BingoBoingo: yeah, prices of assets that are outside the bezzle orbit have generally held steady
decimation: BingoBoingo: yeah, the 'de-professionalizing' of the us 'middle class' is a long-run trend
decimation: they used to pay derps to sit in an office and move memos from the in-queue to the out-queue
decimation: they have all been 'laid off' and are now working as shift managers at starbucks or whatever
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thestringpuller: decimation: good shift managers are hard to come by.
decimation: thestringpuller: yeah I might be exaggerating, they might be just plain barristas, or just sitting at home and receiving gov't checks
mircea_popescu: decimation seems more likely they're on reddit.
mircea_popescu: cheaper.
thestringpuller: well, along the lines of "derps managing", usually this results in the franchise being run into the ground
thestringpuller: even if the franchise is in theory a "gold mine"
mircea_popescu: no because they're just as good as anyone else!
thestringpuller: I have a friend who is trying to open a skateboard shop literally 500 feet from the biggest skatepark in the state
thestringpuller: what does he do? He sells drugs in the woods behind it because he isn't competent enough to hire leadership to get the shop open.
decimation: I wonder how many 'franchises' actually make money for anyone other than the 'headquarters'
thestringpuller: instead he says, "You people don't know how this works" in reference to criticism of his poor decision making process.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller the thing with what people "Want to" do is that it's generally just a credible excuse
mircea_popescu: like a linked-in profile.
decimation: thestringpuller: can't he find someone with some credit to get a bezzle loan?
mircea_popescu: they don't by and large even remotely consider doing it. but it sounds cool
thestringpuller: decimation: as mircea_popescu once stated on trilema money is the least of his problems (in fact he is already "bankrolled" from drug dealing). his problem is finding competent people.
mircea_popescu: decimation re making money, there was this lulzy failure of one of romania's cardboard tycoons. he tried to open a franchised 7/11 thing.
thestringpuller: This is similar, imo, to the way ASICMINER has been run into the ground.
mircea_popescu: it crashed and burned so badly o my god.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller quite, yes.
mircea_popescu: irl idiots get forced out of ownership once their company reaches success. in bitcoin, they have to relinquish willingly.
mircea_popescu: generally, they're too stupid to even realise this is an option
BingoBoingo: There's good franchises out there, but the secret is the management/owners have to be managed like the customers
mircea_popescu: let alone that it is their ONLY option.
mircea_popescu: look at dooglus's mishandling of justdice, no need to go further.
BingoBoingo: On the otherhand Subway does great business recruiting Doctors who want a tax writeoff to finance their new locations
mircea_popescu: o that's still going ?!
mircea_popescu: i thought for sure musta been plugged bynow
decimation: BingoBoingo: is that how that works? I wondered why there were subways every 10 feet in the us
BingoBoingo: Yeah, and like every other franchise like that profitable locations are retained as "corporate stores"
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thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: irl idiots get forced out of ownership once their company reaches success << this is usually the case, but sometimes idiots can be too dumb to realize they need to step aside in meatspace too.
BingoBoingo: Subway found a demo with money, and... they got shit done. They just had to manage their partners the same way they manage the cattle coming in for the product.
thestringpuller: I suppose in meatspace VC's can forcefully remove the leadership of a company in exchange for more money.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Not VC's, C's
thestringpuller: Like Yishan Wong's "resignation".
decimation: yeah actually the vc/founder relationship is probably alot like subway/franchise 'owner'
decimation: except no one eats
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller not at all. look at greenspun'ssad story with arsdigita
mircea_popescu: they just kick the founder out, generally.
BingoBoingo: I thought google had a cafeteria
mircea_popescu: for that matter, look at jobs' midlife crisis.
decimation: I've heard the google benefits are going downhill
mircea_popescu: decimation once i saw those "prosecutions" re wage fixing
mircea_popescu: i figured, "hey, whoever was competing in that market won meanwhile ; doing away with the entire thing"
decimation: yeah that's been quiet for awhile, I think they were going to 'settle' for $2k per person
mircea_popescu: basically, california is dead for tech wage earners coming decade.
mircea_popescu: dumbestthing a kid with college debt could possibly do today is put a downpayment on anything based on his salary / some loan.
BingoBoingo: Yeah
thestringpuller: hah, yet kids are closing on houses.
thestringpuller: Right out of college.
BingoBoingo: The "tech set" needs to rent, cut expenses, and get ready to go to cheaper country
thestringpuller: I had a coworker who bought a car, and is still underwater on the loan. It's like "really"?
mircea_popescu: exactly the things they ridiculously do not wish to do.
decimation: I wonder how many under-35s in the us actually have a positive net worth?
thestringpuller: !up badon
mircea_popescu: decimation market value ? or "pretend value" ?
BingoBoingo: It's like how kakobrekla responsibly got a car while goat got an infinite money sink
decimation: heh well I guess market value
mircea_popescu: i doubt anyone whosoever has positive net worth in the us if the stock market goes to its natural level and the bonds turn to the dust they are.
mircea_popescu: maybe some rural guys in west texas etc.
thestringpuller: that is if your wealth is "invested" in the stockmarket
decimation: http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2014/09/04/it-only-takes-10400-to-be-richer-than-most-millennials/ << "It only takes $10,400 to be wealthier than half of millennials (the median) but it takes $75,500 to be richer than millennials on average." lol
assbot: It Only Takes $10,400 to be Richer Than Most Millennials - Real Time Economics - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1qPOfN9 )
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it can't really not be.
mircea_popescu: if it's invested in... i dunno, nubile 19 yo slavegirls which you sell for meat
mircea_popescu: the people buying them still are invested in the stock market.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu why not buy land and put it to use?
mircea_popescu: because land use is hard.
mircea_popescu: not to mention patriarchical and chauvinist.
decimation: yeah, try buying some land and using it for something
BingoBoingo: Probably more people working fast food with positive net worths than in Silicon Valley
mircea_popescu: "if you bought this plot of land you didn't buy this plot of land"
mircea_popescu: "it belongs to teh people"
decimation: you will find generally at least 3 layers of usg will tell you what you can do on 'your' land
mircea_popescu: "so why did i pay money then ?!"
mircea_popescu: "because you had it"
mircea_popescu: fatlogic, can't be beat.
BingoBoingo: If only because they can't borrow atm
thestringpuller: As yes, I suppose the USG is pretty much the mafia.
thestringpuller: Paying "protection" money.
thestringpuller: not as organized tho.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: They are the mafia if Fredo was given reigns over the family
mircea_popescu: lol that
decimation: it's pretty common in most lefty urban areas of the us to pay >2% per year in 'property tax'
decimation: at least in london you can 'lease' an estate from the crown for 1000 years, not 50
thestringpuller: lefty urban areas == hipsterland
badon: hi thestringpuller
BingoBoingo: Farmland in the US is less bullshit for owners since they usually lease it.
BingoBoingo: To the people who farm on it.
decimation: BingoBoingo: and of course the farmers are paid by usg to farm or not
BingoBoingo: decimation: Right.
BingoBoingo: It's a tower of rentseeking
badon: "bought the farm" is an idiom for death in the USA.
badon: There is no such thing as private land ownership in jurisdictions that tax ownership of land.
badon: tax = rent
BingoBoingo: I haven't heard it and I'm in the US surrounded by farms
badon: BingoBoingo: Haven't heard of what?
BingoBoingo: "bought the farm" I mean maybe I've heard it, but it isn't too common
decimation: yeah "bought the farm" is generally an aviation expression
badon: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22bought+the+farm%22+death
assbot: "bought the farm" death - Google Search ... ( http://bit.ly/1qPPYlz )
decimation: my understanding is that the price of agricultural land has been rising due to the influx of wall st. money
badon: "bought the farm" became a euphemism for death after farmland seizures by the government and banks during the USA's Great Depression. The seizures led to food price increases and starvation. When the government tried to undo the damage they caused by reselling the farms, no one wanted to buy them.
badon: So, the government started doing other things to encourage farmers to farm without making them fear losing their livelihood if they have a bad crop or experience a depression.
badon: That's important USA history that is not in USA history books.
badon: bbl
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asciilifeform random derps on the tumblrs << misread as 'on the tumbrils'
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asciilifeform: http://americandigest.org/aaa1079cklarge-drone-assassina.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/135i8xM )
asciilifeform: (from a larger loltron, http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/2013_02.php )
assbot: AMERICAN DIGEST: February 2013 Archives ... ( http://bit.ly/135ibJK )
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mircea_popescu: soo... argentines are about to set fire to the town AGAIN
mircea_popescu: 2nd time this week.
mircea_popescu: there's like... people on top of people on top of buses.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what they're so excited about, at 3am
BingoBoingo: Probably a local club won a game again.
BingoBoingo: Losing fans generally lack the energy to burn the world
mircea_popescu: i guess it must have.
BingoBoingo: !up huseby
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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ransomware article << funny thing, i have plenty of windows boxen, emulators, vm, etc. they are used for the purpose for which they work best: running crapware.
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> It would be interesting if a large portion of humanity couldn't make it to the year 300 because even the corn became diabetic. << counting from what now?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: A.S. 300 Anno Satoshi
ben_vulpes: :D
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I don't really know many people who don't
asciilifeform: who don't what ?
asciilifeform: i had none at all before taking up my present line of work.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Have some sort of windows install for crapware. Maybe not for archeological purposes, but everyone with a Windows box seems to use it for the purpose of running crapware. They just aren't usually aware of it.
asciilifeform: 'you may not take an interest in war but war is certainly interested in you'
ben_vulpes: <thestringpuller> instead he says, "You people don't know how this works" in reference to criticism of his poor decision making process. << thestringpuller clearly doesn't understand how the world works
ben_vulpes: also, one does not *hire* leadership.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> ben_vulpes: A.S. 300 Anno Satoshi << can it be 300 ass ?
mircea_popescu: as opposed to as ?
mircea_popescu: brilliant idea otherwise.
BingoBoingo: A.SS it is
ben_vulpes: leastaways i've yet to see that work out for anyone. more often than not hiring leadership is a cover for the sharks to move in and kick founding teams out.
asciilifeform: piss-poor year zero.
ben_vulpes: frequently deservedly, but nevertheless.
asciilifeform: i'll wait for usg nuremberg.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know ad is from the birth of christ
asciilifeform: ad yes
mircea_popescu: not from rebirth.
asciilifeform: as
asciilifeform: eh.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-10-2014#886771 << re: ass ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 22-10-2014 00:43:32; ben_vulpes: can we start counting in years since the first coinbase yet?
mircea_popescu: aha
ben_vulpes: handy, this public record.
mircea_popescu: mhm
fluffypony: almost like a "log" of sorts
fluffypony: where you can go back and check on things
fluffypony: whatever will they think of next
mircea_popescu: it totally keeps track of discussions and ideas and everything
ben_vulpes: o wow one can do all that too?
fluffypony: think of it as stone tablets
fluffypony: but someone is chiseling every conversation we have here
fluffypony: and there's another guy who will go retrieve older stone tablets on your request
ben_vulpes: <thestringpuller> I had a coworker who bought a car, and is still underwater on the loan. It's like "really"? << when are car loans not ever underwater?
asciilifeform: ^
mircea_popescu: right. consumer credit works on that principle.
asciilifeform: think car loan is a scam? try food loan.
asciilifeform: product turns to shit every time!
asciilifeform: sc4mz0rz.
fluffypony: lol
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mircea_popescu: wait wut
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes was speaking of the well-known fact that a new car in usa loses around a fifth of its market value when driven off the merchant lot
asciilifeform: this is a tell-tale bezzle bell
asciilifeform: for certain especially perverse goods (e.g. diamond rings) it's ~90% iirc
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ben_vulpes: hah well
ben_vulpes: first one'd have to pay more than the gold is worth
asciilifeform: to 'devil's advocate' - driving the car off the lot turns it into another class of machine entirely.
asciilifeform: see the 'provenance' discussion.
asciilifeform: (re: eotvos experiment)
ben_vulpes: i got away with a "filigree" piece - 90% air anyways
asciilifeform: wai wat
asciilifeform: in your car?
ben_vulpes: no on lady v's finger
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform has not, does not, will not - own rings
asciilifeform: woman - also
asciilifeform: rings bring mutilation and death to the chemical, electrical, mechanical experimenter.
ben_vulpes: i like to piss on my bushes
ben_vulpes: different strokes
asciilifeform: piss on my bushes << electric fence in bushes ?
asciilifeform unfamiliar with expression
ben_vulpes: a reference to territory marking.
asciilifeform: lol, ring has your coat of arms on it?
ben_vulpes: "a collar by any other name..."
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this is really such a mystery to you?
asciilifeform recalls one of the folks at mircea_popescu's party having collar
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not so much the custom of rings being a mystery, but how it marks the territory as being yours in particular, to the naked eye
ben_vulpes: how does a fence mark the land as belonging to any particular man?
asciilifeform: it doesn't
ben_vulpes: and the message it sends?
BingoBoingo: What voltage does the fence have?
ben_vulpes: at least in these parts "cross me and get shot".
asciilifeform: 'survivors will be shot again!'
ben_vulpes: i don't leave survivors.
ben_vulpes: more accurately, the roboturrets don't miss.
BingoBoingo: Any updates from down under on their brush with IStralia?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52923 @ 0.00060115 = 31.8147 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00059376 = 3.2063 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> woman - also << nose rings can be useful :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20616 @ 0.00059376 = 12.241 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: is anyone aware of interesting hiccups around using bitcoin to send rpc commands to a bitcoin daemon running on a different host?
fluffypony: why would you not just use curl to send the RPC commands?
ben_vulpes: cause derp, obviously
ben_vulpes: ty fluffypony
fluffypony: np
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00060016 = 3.0608 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17629 @ 0.00059704 = 10.5252 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7171 @ 0.00059704 = 4.2814 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00059385 = 10.4815 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 2300 @ 0.0012 = 2.76 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.0005843 = 1.9574 BTC [-]
oglafbot: http://oglaf.com/semifinal/
assbot: Semi-Final ... ( http://bit.ly/1Go6TPM )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45677 @ 0.00059192 = 27.0371 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Oh Coinion updated http://www.coinion.com/2014/12/11/gambling-online-dollar-much-better-bitcoin/
assbot: Gambling Online: The Dollar is SO Much Better Than Bitcoin - The Coinion ... ( http://bit.ly/12STgJI )
BingoBoingo: Looks like an ad placement by a retard
BingoBoingo disappoint again
davout: the ddos on connect thing seems to still be going on
davout: looks like it prevents anyone from webchat to connect
davout: even when cloaked
davout: well, actually it's the cloak that doesn't actually work with webchat
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31881 @ 0.00059362 = 18.9252 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00059754 = 7.8577 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26274 @ 0.00059992 = 15.7623 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21657 @ 0.00059175 = 12.8155 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: bitfinex seems to have the same kind of uncertainty as mpex
davout: adlai: wut
adlai: where you can have an order placed/cancelled message processed by the API server, but a subsequent order book query shows that the order matcher hasn't yet seen the order
davout: you can not infer what the matching engine has seen from an order book query
davout: for all you know it might be cached and not expired yet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35692 @ 0.00058062 = 20.7235 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31150 @ 0.00057896 = 18.0346 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00060016 = 7.322 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23050 @ 0.00057893 = 13.3443 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00058557 = 11.5943 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32627 @ 0.00059433 = 19.3912 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 52 @ 0.12408674 = 6.4525 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33300 @ 0.00057886 = 19.276 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44094 @ 0.00056586 = 24.951 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: !up Rory_
davout: mircea_popescu: seems like the welcome-ddos is another barrier to entry
mircea_popescu: hehe.
mircea_popescu: pretty cool huh.
davout: also you can't avoid it from webchat
davout: since the cloaking doesn't work
mircea_popescu: it does ?
davout: try to get cloaked from webchat, at first it works, but then some freenode bot instantly removes it
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: that's pretty stupid.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00056436 = 16.6486 BTC [-]
cazalla: shit is heating up here, media won't show the videos from IS
cazalla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AxN0Yvt_yE for example
assbot: ISIS demands in sydney through hostage - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1yTO5Ha )
mircea_popescu: lol put it up.
mircea_popescu: ah it's on youtube nm
cazalla: yeah it's everywhere except TV, so it's nowhere according to TV lol
mircea_popescu: yeah, because tv really matters o.O
mircea_popescu: so is the statal bureaucrat going to break down and actually *GASP* talk to someone outside of the venues the state controls ?
mircea_popescu: or is he going to *pretend* like he gives a shit about anything but his fantasy ?
mircea_popescu: pretty big deal this, imo.
mircea_popescu: australian prime minister basically is admitting de facto that a) he stands for a lie and b) he's too stupid to be able to argue for it persuasively.
mircea_popescu: his case is unexceptional. obama couldn't argue why the usg should even exist either.
cazalla: he won't talk to em, not a chance, heads are gonna roll either way by looks of it
mircea_popescu: pretty cool imo.
mircea_popescu: this point needs to be made, and made often and made well.
mircea_popescu: "democratically elected representatives" are not only dumb as rocks, but fundamentally unrepresentative.
cazalla: well, you were right about the landwhales lol http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=32f_1418647768
assbot: LiveLeak.com - Sydney Siege Hostage Demands (Video 4) ... ( http://bit.ly/1yTR2aS )
cazalla: srs though, can't be that dedicated to the cause if he didn't even have his own flag
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31600 @ 0.00060235 = 19.0343 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: apparently this is the dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Haron
assbot: Sheikh Haron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1yTT8aH )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57311 @ 0.00058158 = 33.3309 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: halfassed terrorist holds a bunch of fatasses hostage ?
cazalla: looks somewhat halfassed, arrested for sending angry letters previously, guess that is to far a jump to heads on pikes
mircea_popescu: "and was later verified by media (with permission from the authorities)"
mircea_popescu: dude srsly ?
cazalla: yeah, sad eh
mircea_popescu: myeah.
cazalla: if this guy gets out of it alive, he has a future in viral marketing on social media
mircea_popescu: why would i want to read a "press" that publishes by permission ?
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: every social reject from every mechanism and circumstance has the same future in viral marketing.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on the other side of internet lol, http://pastebin.com/rHSu3iPi
assbot: I'm homeless indian junkie. I'm accepting Bitcoin donations to buy crack for me - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1yTVYwv )
cazalla: "Sent from my iPhone"
mircea_popescu: that a good thing ?
thestringpuller: dunno why a homeless person addicted to crack would have an iPhone...
thestringpuller: or how for that matter
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1948 @ 0.00060124 = 1.1712 BTC [+]
cazalla: looks like that was used for Preet Bharara
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller internet derp being what he imagines is sarcastic.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00060687 = 13.5939 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: get a cloak Rory_
cazalla: i wonder if it's a psychological tactic to release his name at this time, maybe he feels media gives him recognition and being tired, is content with that and gives up
mircea_popescu: the way this guy cuts down on all the dumb idlers that imagine whatever, b-a is just another channel, can autopilot in is so fucking great srlsy.
cazalla: barely noticed tbh
mircea_popescu: shit sherlock
mircea_popescu: https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net
assbot: Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast ... ( http://bit.ly/1yTZAP9 )
mircea_popescu: you seen that c?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00060931 = 13.4658 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: larger than the previous peak.
cazalla: well, that's not bad
mircea_popescu: by a good 50%
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: thank reddit
mircea_popescu: oh ?
cazalla: yeah, a qntra post was like #4 or something on reddit earlier
thestringpuller: qntra was on front page of /r/bitcoin
cazalla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2p9ctz/ford_motor_company_bitcoin_a_trend_for_2015/
assbot: Ford Motor Company: Bitcoin A Trend For 2015 : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1GHCSsy )
thestringpuller: to quote "I came for the bunny" so you should actually be thanking cazalla 's bunny
mircea_popescu: o ic
cazalla: not bad considering i was drunk at the time, just ask BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: funny enoughy, awstats doesn't see the same sort of jumps
mircea_popescu: i think part of this might be that most of qntra stable readership are computer savvy folks and so invisible,
mircea_popescu: but whenever reddit or whoever pours in, there's a huge upsurge in traffic visible for quantcast.
cazalla: wouldn't it be other way around? savvy reader blocks quantcast code, hit still reg in webserver stats?
mircea_popescu: exactly.
cazalla: who are all these asians though
mircea_popescu: awstats average is like 6-700, yest 1.3k
mircea_popescu: quantcast is more like 50-200, yest 2.7k
mircea_popescu: anyways, nice going. it's fun to have the ath yest.
cazalla: nb considering things have been slow past week, i would expect things to crawl over xmas period too
mircea_popescu: me too yeah
thestringpuller: cazalla: well given BingoBoingo's prevention of shitware piece, maybe more non-time-sensitive pieces?
davout: !t x.eur
assbot: You had the last Philistine. This one's mine.
cazalla: thestringpuller, yeah, those articles are good for the weekend
thestringpuller: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00350937 / 0.00353359 / 0.0035368 (449 shares, 1.59 BTC), 7D: 0.00341302 / 0.00349125 / 0.00355121 (2207 shares, 7.71 BTC), 30D: 0.00321492 / 0.00337825 / 0.00355121 (6434 shares, 21.74 BTC)
cazalla: i'm off anyway, zzz
thestringpuller: night mang
davout: thestringpuller: ah thx
mircea_popescu: !up ug_
thestringpuller: see you in a few hours
mircea_popescu: he doesn't really sleep much does he.
davout: mircea_popescu: x.eur plox
thestringpuller: does anyone sleep that much in this channel?
mircea_popescu: i guess not o.O
mircea_popescu: davout will happen today :)
davout: mircea_popescu: so, why does it not make sense according to you that x.eur could trade continuously?
mircea_popescu: because old and new contracts hafta be distinguished.
mircea_popescu: and because downstream providers & brokers need a settlement spot
davout: mircea_popescu: old and new can be distinguished by the current timestamp, after cutoff all "old" contracts turn into "new"
davout: could you elaborate on the settlement spot ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: is this why there were options appended with T and N
mircea_popescu: basically, we're cheating by using a singlke name for different instruments.
thestringpuller: N's would eventually turn into T's
mircea_popescu: this works ok if therer's some time separation.
davout: because the way i see it, it could perfectly make sense to say "if you want delivery, email me before cutoff minus 24h, push the asset, email receipt, and you get delivered on the settlement date"
mircea_popescu: anyway, you'll get the new set later today, nottin' to get too excited about.
davout: i could understand the "it's actually two different assets" point if at some point you had to sell the old one and buy the new one
mircea_popescu: i can see people doing that.
davout: if one automatically turns into the other one at some point they sure look like the same to me
mircea_popescu shrugs
mircea_popescu: this arguing by simple restatement of one's position is uninteresting.
davout: i guess that what i'm trying to clear up is the question: "why do you want to distinguish them?"
mircea_popescu: because they are actually different things.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00061138 = 8.4065 BTC [+] {2}
davout: well, just because two dollar bills have a different serial number doesn't make it very useful to distinguish them, likewise it does not seem very useful to me to want to distinguish between these, maybe it's just me but i don't see what problem this solves
mircea_popescu: but these aren't two dollar bills. one is a dollar bill of your paycheck today. the other is a dollar bill of your paycheck next month. they aren't fungible.
davout: absolutely, but at any point of time there can't be only a single contract type trading, unlike what i understand from the usual future contracts where at some point both contracts are trading simultaneously
mircea_popescu: yeah well, the time granularity here is closer to the day than to the second
davout: from what i understand, it's usually the case that the N and N+1 contracts trade simultaneously during a few days at least
mircea_popescu: if they're specially denominated, yeah.
TomServo: Wow. 1USD = 60.5RUB.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 4008 @ 0.0012 = 4.8096 BTC
mircea_popescu: nuts.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1000 @ 0.0012 = 1.2 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42200 @ 0.00061248 = 25.8467 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1700 @ 0.0012 = 2.04 BTC
asciilifeform: at first it works, but then some freenode bot instantly removes it << wtf is the deal with the 'cloaking' thing anyway. why the idiocy of displaying ip by default ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't understand how the world works!1111!!
mircea_popescu: they're just clueless idiots.
asciilifeform: apparently not
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00060931 = 8.3475 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu recalls his last foray into #freenode, where some staf derp explained how he can revert hashes
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> the way this guy cuts down on all the dumb idlers that imagine whatever, b-a is just another channel, can autopilot in is so fucking great srlsy. << too strong of a noob filter imho. more spport for the casuals!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if they're actively trying to stick, they can triviallydo so.
mircea_popescu: if they just wantr to idle in 500 "bitcoin related" channels fuck them.
thestringpuller: go to #freenode "Hey can I have cloak"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37750 @ 0.0006108 = 23.0577 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00060307 = 2.2314 BTC [-]
rithm: "can i haz cloak" makes it happen faster
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 2277 @ 0.0012 = 2.7324 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 4300 @ 0.0012 = 5.16 BTC
davout: mircea_popescu: mpex seems half-down
davout: n/a everywhere
mircea_popescu: workin' on it.
jurov: $proxies
empyex: jurov: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.co mpex.biz mpex.coinbr.com Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91
empyex: jurov: MPEx-Status: mpex.bz (5108 milliseconds), mpex.biz (5108 milliseconds), mpex.co (5120 milliseconds), mpex.ws (5230 milliseconds), mpex.coinbr.com (5505 milliseconds)
empyex: jurov: Health-Indicators: Homepage: √ MK Depth JSON: √ VWAP JSON: √
jurov: l0l
davout: jurov: the patient is dead but the heart monitor self-test reports 100% success phew
kakobrekla: ah yes, the ping machine!
kakobrekla: ;;google machine that goes ping
gribble: Monty Python - Hospital Sketch - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arCITMfxvEc>; The Meaning of Life (1983) - Quotes - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085959/quotes>; Monty Python's The Meaning of Life - Wikiquote: <' target='_blank'>http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Monty_Python's_The_Meaning_of_Life>
mircea_popescu: davout lol well, they have a split issue. the proxies are online, just... no data.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1670 @ 0.0012 = 2.004 BTC
asciilifeform: ;;later tell kakobrekla when you measured the 1+gb/sec or whatever of ddos, didja log incoming packets ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
kakobrekla: asciilifeform nope.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: if you can be bothered, try the experiment again, with tcpdump log. and post or send privately (i only need packet payloads and originator ip)
asciilifeform: no rush.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: example >> http://www.loper-os.org/pub/flood.txt.gz
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1svN0DW )
asciilifeform: https://ssdpscan.shadowserver.org
assbot: The Shadowserver Foundation: Simple Service Discovery Protocol (SSDP) Scanning Project ... ( http://bit.ly/1svOj5H )
asciilifeform: interestingly, they do not publish the ips, but did post this graphic: https://ssdpscan.shadowserver.org/all/ssdp_hilbert_4096_current.png << from which you can easily derive them!
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1svOluw )
asciilifeform: ^ exercise for alert reader
asciilifeform: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:JOOtTeT-uH4J:www.hackforums.net/showthread.php%3Ftid%3D4502619+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
assbot: Free C SSDP attack script + scanner, don't get scammed! - Page 1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1svP3Yx )
asciilifeform: ^ mega-lol re: idiots
davout: mircea_popescu: so you're using mysqlol on the proxies
asciilifeform: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:L1ay4bsEJyIJ:www.hackforums.net/showthread.php%3Ftid%3D4427786+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us << from same snakepit, explanation for the thickest
assbot: SSDP Amplification Vector Explain [Attack Script & Scanner included] + a GIFT - Page 1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1svQ6YH )
davout: X.EUR December statement : http://fr.anco.is/2014/12/15/x-eur-december-15th-2014-statement/
assbot: X.EUR December 15th 2014 statement | fr.anco.is ... ( http://bit.ly/1svQXbQ )
davout: asset transfers will happen when MPEx gets back
davout: which is apparently now
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/teenage-boys-the-premier-source-of-comedy-gold/
kakobrekla: asciilifeform port 80 only?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: nah, originating from 1900
asciilifeform: destination may vary.
asciilifeform: for the impatient: the way this particular type of ddos works is called 'amplification.' certain kinds of misconfigured consumer routers will send several packets to victim ip for every packet received from the diddler's. hence amp.
asciilifeform: ddos aficionados scan the net for these boxes, and then sell (or sometimes simply post) the resulting chump list
asciilifeform: once posted in the open, the chumps begin to get 'overgrazed'
asciilifeform: and new ones are required.
kakobrekla: yes but incoming is 80
kakobrekla: recording now, unable to access the box for the while
kakobrekla: (this is hitting 4 poor arm cores)
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: grab as many as you can. no hurry.
kakobrekla: 250mb log atm
kakobrekla: seems to be dying off
Anduck: .deeds
Anduck: where's deeds?
ben_vulpes: ask punkman. nominally some progress was to be made this weekend.
kakobrekla: asciilifeform see link in pm.
BingoBoingo: http://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net/msg06583.html
assbot: [Bitcoin-development] Recent EvalScript() changes meanCHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY can't be merged ... ( http://bit.ly/12X0IU5 )
ben_vulpes: lordy
BingoBoingo: !up t4nk
BingoBoingo: https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/7/7c/Breedism.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1qT1ahc )
jurov: http://www.boredpanda.com/1000-colours-color-jigsaw-puzzle-clemens-habicht/ my ass
assbot: 1000-Piece CMYK Color Gamut Jigsaw Puzzle By Designer Clemens Habicht | Bored Panda ... ( http://bit.ly/1qT27pS )
mats: don't worry BingoBoingo, trainers will lower requirements so the chihuahuas can graduate
mats: its already been done for chihuahuas going through Airborne and Air Assault school
thestringpuller: !up BlueMeanie4
mats: but, hey, israel allows chihuahuas to serve in their infantry units!!!
BingoBoingo: lol
asciilifeform: http://wurmhoudt.blogspot.com/2012/08/anti-tank-dogs.html << chihuahua could work just as well in this job.
assbot: Mr Boot's Axis Blog: Anti-tank Dogs ... ( http://bit.ly/1qT4by4 )
BingoBoingo: Depends on the size of the payload the tank demands
mats: heart dun mean shit when you've got to march 20mi in a 30 pound iotv, with a 45 pound pack, and 15 pounds of weapon and magazine
cazalla: i am happy to report Australia is safe once again, apparently mr i forgot my isis flag guy fell asleep, hostages ran out and woke him, he started blasting and cops 360 no scoped him
mats: such discipline
adlai: mother should i trust the government
kakobrekla: ok so assbot will now warn you bout ddos only if you have a dot in you host
kakobrekla: if you get the msg, yer phucked
thestringpuller: "We choose to bitcoin company in the bitcoin way" - some derp CEO of some coinderp company. These quotes are getting ridiculous.
kakobrekla: lol ok
mats: verb everything
BingoBoingo: I liked assbot PM though. Made it easy to say !up while typing less
kakobrekla: :(
BingoBoingo: Well, maybe if host doesn't have a dot assbot can greet people with joke?
jborkl: heh, yeah
BingoBoingo: Cool
BingoBoingo: Thank you kakobrekla http://cdn3.volusion.com/74gtv.tjme9/v/vspfiles/photos/Delicious%20Dozen-1.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1AA42PX )
kakobrekla: lol
kakobrekla: yw !
mats: would you make it three dots?
kakobrekla: cant you put cloak on top of that?
jurov: argh, every github hipster now wires travis ci to their project
jurov: btw, i was invited to coinmate.io
jurov: later read it as co.inmate, had double take
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 8000 @ 0.0012 = 9.6 BTC
kakobrekla: >Dear clients,
kakobrekla: we sincerely apologize but our site was under a massive Distributed Denial of Service attack. We have reconfigured our servers for full protection by one of the world's best DDOS protection providers, so there will not be any downtime in the future. Our service has now world-class security.
kakobrekla: lolok
BingoBoingo: Is .inmate a tld yet?
jurov: i'd prefer .зэк
jurov: already i got into argument with these coinmates.. since their czech ass is close to eurozone and they offer sepa/czk
jurov: so i asked them about the calculator instead of just saying go to xe.com
jurov: "nooo that would be difficult"
jurov: and "but most of our customers are muricans"
jurov: i was like wtf how they imagine offering usd coupon codes to muricans when everyone else was forced to stop doing it
jurov: co.inmates, indeed
BingoBoingo: What the fuck. "I am near you would like to be customer" "Fuck you, our customers are Americans so we can scam them with impunity"
jborkl: heh, too hard to scrape exchange rate and divide by BTC
jurov: slight correction: they don't open accounts for USians they only said to me "our customers use usd" .. i just misextrapolated
BingoBoingo: Ah
mats: nah a cloak won't take precedence over the irccloud one
kakobrekla: sure it will
mats: freenode staff disagrees
kakobrekla: freenode staff can also dehash hashes
mats: i almost started a fire just now bc some extension cable started melting when i hooked up a space heater
mats: wouldn't have noticed if i hadn't went to poop
kakobrekla: your ass saved your ass
BingoBoingo: mats: You are now qualified to operate BTC mine
BingoBoingo: By virtue of Ass luck
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/12/ophionlocker-latest-ransomware-which-is-spread-via-ad-networks/
mats: im getting high on plastic fumes
jurov: http://www.zelpage.cz/news_n/zssk_aeer_nove_wc.jpg someone who projected this toilet prolly got some fumes, too
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1yVHBHZ )
jurov: (it's our incumbent railways reaction to competition)
adlai: mpex web-side totally fucked eh
jurov: i remember we talked with mircea about more direct access, he was like "nah, not needed anymore, we have it covered"
kakobrekla: !s s.nsa november
assbot: 3 results for 's.nsa november' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=s.nsa+november
jurov: remember,remember
kakobrekla: mats it seem they are right this time. dik, get a real client or smth.
adlai: good thing the chart scraper was turned off, it would've captured a cartload of horseshit
kakobrekla: you horse shit can be turned into btc
kakobrekla: your
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: http://i.imgur.com/5koAv3H.jpg
mircea_popescu: omg all teh hate.
mircea_popescu: anyway, dumbass proxies desynced and started running around topless in the dc.
jurov: https://i.imgur.com/k3odZjv.jpg also
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1wBY94k )
jurov: mircea_popescu: photos or gtfo
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: famous
adlai: to celebrate mpoe coming back up: https://vid.me/pYV4 ☟︎
assbot: The MPEx Shuffle - vidme ... ( http://bit.ly/1wBYQL8 ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "The #4890 pull-req in question had no ACKs at all, and only two untested utACKS, which I find worrying for something that made significant consensus critical code changes." via BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: basically, shit only goes one way.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Courtesy of Peter Todd
jurov: yup for mpex
mircea_popescu: adlai aww i cxan not see it
mircea_popescu: whai can it not be a gif
adlai: can this ffmpex thing make gifs
mircea_popescu: ffmpeg ? yes.
mircea_popescu: "apparently mr i forgot my isis flag guy fell asleep" << ahahaha epic
mircea_popescu: "i was gonna do thinks with my gun... but then i got tired... then i got tired... and fell asleep"
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYsTmIzjkw << my humble proposal for a isis.oz anthem
assbot: Afroman - Because I Got High - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1wC03lx )
BingoBoingo: I really think it is irresponsible the dude didn't bring some serious stimulants with him. I mean the police get to have shift changes.
adlai tries with convert, let's see how bad the RAMrape gets
mircea_popescu: you just do ffmpeg -o fuck.gif or some shit
mircea_popescu: im bashing the kako ass ass comment.
adlai: fuck, gif is 3mb and counting
adlai: why does convert need 5G ram to build a 4M file. somebody didn't read knuth?
mircea_popescu: sounds like http://trilema.com/2014/ubuntu-is-a-worse-piece-of-shit-than-ms-dos-ever-was/
assbot: Ubuntu is a worse piece of shit than MS-DOS ever was. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1wbmC1Q )
BingoBoingo: adlai: Everyone talks about Knuth, but no one reads Knuth.
asciilifeform: 'no one' lol.
undata: mircea_popescu: there's "ionice" which might help those cases
undata: not that I dispute ubuntu being a steaming pile
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 4210 @ 0.0012 = 5.052 BTC