log
⏐▁
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24619 @ 0.00049955 = 12.2984 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5931 @ 0.00047265 = 2.8033 BTC [-] {2}
Adlai: anybody else see wtf just happened on btce
davout: Adlai: do tell
Adlai: 1min candle: high 261.64 low 240.01
Adlai: it looked quite similar to what happened a few months back on bitfinex where the order book reported an out of date book about $20 below the current one
Adlai: except that this now reports trades, and low limit orders got executed
Adlai: i guess it's nothing compared to some previous flash sells, just caught me by surprise because it happened in front of my eyes
davout: hory shet
davout: way to shoot up
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 259.44, Best ask: 260.45, Bid-ask spread: 1.01000, Last trade: 260.44, 24 hour volume: 30063.99864451, 24 hour low: 241.33, 24 hour high: 263.2, 24 hour vwap: 250.107871168
Adlai: ;;ticker --market btce
gribble: BTC-E BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 254.956, Best ask: 254.972, Bid-ask spread: 0.01600, Last trade: 254.972, 24 hour volume: 18007.40965, 24 hour low: 239.013, 24 hour high: 263.0, 24 hour vwap: 251.0065
mircea_popescu: Adlai web exchanges realligning to otc, what's the big deal ?
Adlai: the slippage :)
ben_vulpes: how can one align to otc
mircea_popescu: yeah well.
ben_vulpes: there's no price signal
Adlai: to learn of the otc, you must become otc
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=20-01-2015#984699 etc☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-01-2015 19:39:33; mircea_popescu: but that's less important. what's more important is, bitcoin has no price signal and you propose to do derivatives. well... got some questions to answer.
ben_vulpes: anyways, first sunny day in months and the hipsters set the badminton net up *smack* in the middle of the swamp
ben_vulpes: must be spring
ben_vulpes: meanwhile blizzard in nyc
thestringpuller: gonna be good snowboarding this week lol
thestringpuller: aspen niggas rubbin it in
mats: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/25/wikileaks-google-staff-emails-us-government
assbot: WikiLeaks demands answers after Google hands staff emails to US government | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1yiIapm )
mircea_popescu: answers as in... what ? "yes, fuck you." ?
Adlai: for who will leak upon the leakers themselves/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00050033 = 11.5576 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "us company subsisting out of us fed subsidies fails to implement usg policy. is replaced with different one, nobody notices the difference."
mircea_popescu: wtf.
mats: replaced? schmidt has been a USG cocksucker since day 1
mircea_popescu: that was kinda my point. what exactly would be the alternative here, google demures ? how.
mircea_popescu: the usg is not going to like people fucking up its shit. that's not changing. google isn't going to start acting like anything but a usg agent. that's also not changing. what are teh staffers in question expect will happen, or expected will have happened ?
mircea_popescu: what's next, ima write letters to the vessenes fake foundation about how their power rangers are fucking up bitcoin ?
mircea_popescu: duh.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00050322 = 3.4471 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: might as well complain to the troika that they're pwning the periphery
pete_dushenski: or to apple that they're updates make everything worse
pete_dushenski: that's sorta the point of their continued existence
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what's next, ima write letters to the vessenes << Maybe it's because I have autism, but why would you write them letters when you can publicly condemn?
thestringpuller: "Dear Mr. Vessenes', You are a poop. Signed, mircea_popescu "
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5000 @ 0.00099881 = 4.9941 BTC [+] {10}
jurov: mircea can just twitterkill him
pete_dushenski: i can twitterkill vessenes
pete_dushenski: mp can't, gotta have twitter
thestringpuller: teach me twitter fu pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: patience, grasshopper
pete_dushenski: first, you must learn to scrub floors
pete_dushenski: then you must learn to clean dishes
pete_dushenski: then you must learn to sew clothes
pete_dushenski: then, and only then, will i teach you the ways of the internet
pete_dushenski: Andreessen Horowitz is heading up a $58 million round of investment in TransferWise
pete_dushenski: Founded in 2011 and built by ex-Skype and PayPal engineers with the aim of making it easier (read: cheaper) to transfer pounds to euros, TransferWise says that it will be using the funds to fuel its global expansion.
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: i love the jew fro.
thestringpuller: It's majestic af.
pete_dushenski: it definitely draws attention
jurov: such romance (*^*)
pete_dushenski: lol
pete_dushenski: such fambly, this cult
thestringpuller: jurov: I think you mean bromance!
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: wait, you're a dude?!
pete_dushenski kidding!
thestringpuller: XD
thestringpuller: I think I'm going to fulfill my Volvo dream pete_dushenski cause of your blog post lol
pete_dushenski: see guise! blogging works!
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: you ever have a blog?
thestringpuller: anything I really post is on thestringpuller.tumblr.com
mats: tumblr blog. adorbs.
thestringpuller: I was thinking of that story I put in the comments of your post. ANd was like "Why not get a volvo? It's gonna outlast most bitcoin businesses while being 30 years old as is."
thestringpuller: mats: I KNO RITE. Not as adorable as my Xanga blog was.
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: lmao i love that dylan scene from chappelle
pete_dushenski: "name da 5 best rappers of all time"
mats: whoa, xanga. i haven't seen that name in almost a decade.
pete_dushenski: "dylan, dylan, dylan, dylan, and dylan"
mats reflects on fond memories of social networks in early 2000
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: Yah! Because of people like Dylan, we can't have nice things.
thestringpuller: mats: Ya. My teenage school years. Such angst, such proto-social-networking.
thestringpuller: MySpace. Lawls.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell peterl hey can we get thestringpuller.tumblr.com added to bablogs?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: does your Benz take diesel?
pete_dushenski: eh no. it's not a tractor.
thestringpuller: Haven't really done my reading yet. XD
thestringpuller: My buddy had a diesel benz in high school. That thing was a beast, p. much a tractor, but man you could abuse that thing and it'd still show love 800 miles from home.
thestringpuller: I love cars like that. Shit you can drive in Siberia with 0 maintenance (like an asshole car owner), but the machine still chugs.
pete_dushenski: well i basically live in siberia with health care so i guess that makes saddam perfect
pete_dushenski: (my 560 is named "saddam" in case you missed that
pete_dushenski: )
thestringpuller: My buddy kept trying to convince me to get an E30 325 by BMW circa 1989
thestringpuller: which I admit is tempting, but in the same sense as candy is tempting ~_~
pete_dushenski: the e30 was built in an era when only entry-level cars failed completely after a few year
pete_dushenski: back then, the higher-end motors were expected to keep truckin' for decades
pete_dushenski: as they evidently have
pete_dushenski: of course, in the mid to late 90's, automakers figured out that all cars, regardless of upfront cost, should self-immolate after 10 years
pete_dushenski: if not sooner
thestringpuller: Ya. What's up with that?!?
pete_dushenski: ideally, from their perspective, cars would crap out as soon as the warranty expired
pete_dushenski: and have so many electrical gremlins that they'd be impossible to repair thereafter
thestringpuller: it's like Jobs' ideas behind the iPod
thestringpuller: warranty expires the day the battery dies
pete_dushenski: carmakers have been getting better and better at this
pete_dushenski: i think they're almost there
thestringpuller: some cars seem to be holding their own against the trend.
pete_dushenski: toyota, perhaps
thestringpuller: ya, mah girl has a Camry from 94-95 or something almost 200k miles on it and it runs fine. Road trip worthy and all.
pete_dushenski: but the increased homogeny between brands, a function of their sharing tier 1 and 2 suppliers, is hampering even the best of intentions
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: but that's a 20-year-old car now
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: yea but was crafted in mind 90's when the trend started
pete_dushenski: this is also why recalls are spanning unprecented numbers of cars, and stretching across brands at the same time
pete_dushenski: the japanese are slow
pete_dushenski: their morality is different
pete_dushenski: they have a culture of longevity
thestringpuller: thestringpuller: is hampering even the best of intentions << this is why tesla was able to get through even with mafia style racket in place.
thestringpuller: They are hedging on parts outlasting the warranty tho.
pete_dushenski: tesla is an interesting case study in incentives
mats: a reading of 'Consumer Reports' from some years ago suggests that cars are lasting longer...
pete_dushenski: obama needed a poster child, and tesla has definitely been one of his success stories
thestringpuller: ^- i kno rite
pete_dushenski: the company is entirely dependent on government subsidies
thestringpuller: i hate that tho. that there fame lies in that rather than just pure industry.
thestringpuller: and also "welfare"
pete_dushenski: consumer reports is "independent" but hardly impervious to cajoling
thestringpuller: tesla's suppliers are definitely trying to reverse the quality trend
pete_dushenski: the tesla model s couldn't have been anything other than "the best piece of engineering since apollo 11"
thestringpuller: XD
thestringpuller: such hyperbole
thestringpuller: but like the modern Maybach i.e.
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: it's in the interest of the suppliers to ensure that they have business in the future
thestringpuller: rap couldn't truly save the maybach, but it's one of those dream cars that actually fulfills the dream from my limited experience at least.
pete_dushenski: the modernest of the maybachs is just an s-class trim line now
thestringpuller: yah the most modern. i was speaking druing the infancy of maybach music
thestringpuller: the maybach that picked up lil wayne from prison etc.
pete_dushenski: the last one was bespoke, but a dud compared to the phantom
thestringpuller: ^- this is why jeezy doesn't ride in maybachs
thestringpuller: which is interesting
pete_dushenski: ya i don't get the maybach at all
thestringpuller: didn't know you were the channel car guy, but again guess I haven't done my reading
pete_dushenski: maybe it's too arriviste for me
pete_dushenski: lol i didn't exactly advertise it
pete_dushenski: besides, onions are more interesting to hang out with ;)
thestringpuller: well it's dope cause I love working on automotive machiens
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski> mp can't, gotta have twitter << twitter, this single shot rifle
mircea_popescu: sorta like a broom
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: but you can ride brooms and play quidditch and stuff
pete_dushenski: more like a mop, really
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: obligatory: http://www.krasnoyeznamya.ru/gallery/rm_21_489.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/15ywCas )
mircea_popescu: mats> whoa, xanga. i haven't seen that name in almost a decade. << that azn chick still blogs on it.
pete_dushenski: twitter: soggy, used mostly by intellectual janitors. yup, that'd be a mop
mats: who?
BingoBoingo: I live. Got hooked into judging at a college debate tournament this weekend for quick fiat and an anthropological study of the reddit derp in the physical world.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quite lol
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo hey this was a shitty bender.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: i totally forgot.
mircea_popescu: bet pool was giving you like a week an shit
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/1bec07183b67b4101135a2d13acd5a92/tumblr_nblgzjOuLg1tku1fwo1_1280.jpg << "now sit your ass down..."
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/15yxbBf )
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Only drank Friday night. Saturday night my loss of faith in the USian college leaders of the future pushed me into unassisted slumber.
mircea_popescu: eh don't judge the kids too harshy
mircea_popescu: they're virgins.
thestringpuller: XD
mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/bdb52bfba9b0b6f1fadb13ad57518626/tumblr_nblgyb5N0U1tku1fwo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/15yxnR8 )
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu is growing into the "nice grandpa" and not grumpy old man.
mats: good one
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/dbd560e399f2fcac62c14ed4d672bc22/tumblr_nbnan2prwQ1tj17cio1_1280.jpg << are these handcarved dogs ? or wts is that milling machine ?
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/15yxyvK )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: toy car radio remote.
mircea_popescu: ah k
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I actually got to hear it argued today that manned spaceflight is bad, because science is aligned against queer people and because science is aligned against queer people we should embrace human extinction.
BingoBoingo: I did not get to judge that round, but the nihilist "won"
mircea_popescu: did he win a .22 ?
asciilifeform: !b 3
assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/028NZSE.txt )
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe if I had a ballot that round.
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/05e18ad19e50e3bb3f6828669fc88e86/tumblr_nboxos3khZ1s3k2n4o2_500.jpg athlete tit.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1zLAEd8 )
BingoBoingo: On the plus side I also got to judge speech events, which meant I literally got to watch minstrel shows and liberals were ok with it.
BingoBoingo: !up moldysnizz
moldysnizz waves
moldysnizz: I really need to dig out my old workstation for my other signing keys. It would be nice to be back on the WoT
BingoBoingo: If I were drunk though I prolly would have IRC'd on the hostile campus wifi. I am so happy to have civilized internet again.
moldysnizz: BingoBoingo, have yo had a chance to watch "The Rise and Rise of Bitcoin"?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6586 @ 0.00050253 = 3.3097 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: moldysnizz: Nope, life is too short.
moldysnizz: *chuckle* I rather enjoyed it.
BingoBoingo: I might see it eventually. I am just so thrilled though that yesterday I got to watch actual minstrel shows performed for free.
moldysnizz: =D How'd that come to be?
BingoBoingo: moldysnizz: Just before you got here http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2015#992298 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-01-2015 02:05:42; BingoBoingo: I live. Got hooked into judging at a college debate tournament this weekend for quick fiat and an anthropological study of the reddit derp in the physical world.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22956 @ 0.00050596 = 11.6148 BTC [+]
moldysnizz: oo fun!
moldysnizz: flask?
pete_dushenski: Anti-austerity Syriza party has won Greece's general election, putting the country on a possible collision course with the EU over its massive bailout.
pete_dushenski: default time in the land of olive oil ?
BingoBoingo: moldysnizz: If I did it again...
ben_vulpes: wb BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Howdy.
BingoBoingo: Imma spend a few hours now reading trilema and listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd to get the liberal brainwashing out.
BingoBoingo: !up gabriel_laddel
gabriel_laddel: http://i.imgur.com/YDS7DZR.png http://i.imgur.com/er5HT6O.png http://i.imgur.com/nsvxhzs.png http://i.imgur.com/Ius6a3h.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/15yBJYf )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/15yBL2r )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/15yBKeP )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/15yBLzs )
gabriel_laddel: screenshots of programs that come with the #b-a distro by default.
ben_vulpes: how've you been? what've you been doing?
gabriel_laddel: I've been well enough. Working on the same project.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: macsyma ?
asciilifeform: !s macsyma
assbot: 3 results for 'macsyma' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=macsyma
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: yep.
gabriel_laddel: but with true3d plotting
ben_vulpes: mlol i was talking to BingoBoingo, but same goes for you as well
ben_vulpes: glad to see your distro in channel
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: lol thanks.
ben_vulpes: care to talk a little more about this distro upon which you've been working?
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: We have a distro nao?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Infiltrating IRL reddit.
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: I'm working on one, yes.
gabriel_laddel: Built on top of funtoo
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Must build on Vax.
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I'll write something up now
ben_vulpes: neat stuff
ben_vulpes: !rate gabrial_laddel 1 not really new blood any more
assbot: gabrial_laddel is not registered in WoT.
ben_vulpes: !rate gabriel_laddel 1 not really new blood any more
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/63510a95016a3e34
gabriel_laddel: yeah I need to get on that.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.gabriel_laddel.1:0fa2dead241f26026429deff8283cec0a1ab17b93ef5ece1fb5361eb7cfbe12a
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for gabriel_laddel from 1 to 1 with note: not really new blood any more
ben_vulpes:
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: still have those keys?
gabriel_laddel: nope.
gabriel_laddel: destroyed in a failed backup :/
ben_vulpes: ah, sux.
ben_vulpes: best time to plant a tree and all that
gabriel_laddel: yep
gabriel_laddel: though from a rating perspective, I don't think it matters if I wait until I release the distro
ben_vulpes shrugs
ben_vulpes: again, best time to plant a tree.
ben_vulpes: no sense putting it off.
ben_vulpes: victory goes not to those who are merely decisive of mind, but only to those who are also swift of action.
thestringpuller: ^- Always in a rush to the grave.
thestringpuller: "Stay awhile and listen" :)
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell nubbins' https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935115.msg10257245#msg10257245 << Why would a professional cabinet maker do it to "put himself through college"
assbot: Videos of WoodCollector Hand Carving: Care of MOB ... ( http://bit.ly/15yDBAp )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: HAND GUIDED router << anyone who works with power shapers knows better than to hand guide a router
moldysnizz: ugh
BingoBoingo: Also... I smoke cigarettes a lot of places, but anywhere I'm generating a bunch of woodshavings is not that place.
punkman: pete_dushenski: default time in the land of olive oil ? << that was years ago
pete_dushenski: myea, well this'd be part infinity in that story
pete_dushenski: i agree, no one particularly cares if greece goes the way of atlantis
punkman: 50-60% voter turnout, all-time low
pete_dushenski: we'll remember their contribution just as fondly
pete_dushenski: off to a late dinner, chip chip cheerio and all that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00050253 = 3.367 BTC [-]
punkman: "Alexis Tsipras is a tin-pot communist. May his time in power be short and his actions easily revocable."
punkman: oh man the spain-tards sure love this guy
BingoBoingo: !up gabriel_laddel
gabriel_laddel: I've actually done very little development for this dirtro. Most of my time has been spent finding perfect little individual peices and assembling them. Out of the box it has:
gabriel_laddel: - documentation (current borked b/c of gentoo's USE flag problems - cyclic dependencies)
gabriel_laddel: - Conkeror browser hooked up to parenscript.
gabriel_laddel: - the best GUI library available on current architectures (CLIM - Commmon Lisp Interface Manager).
gabriel_laddel: - millions LoC less than the browser, at least 10x more expressive.
gabriel_laddel: - based on funtoo, sources for all programs are included by default.
gabriel_laddel: - symbolic algebra via Maxima
gabriel_laddel: - 3D plotting facilities (animation, zooming etc.) No gnuplot or browser hackery.
gabriel_laddel: - state saving and restoration (currently broken)
gabriel_laddel: - lesson system
gabriel_laddel: - habit system
gabriel_laddel: - dashboard that reports e.g., LoC for the entire system.
gabriel_laddel: - js->ps transpiler (needs work)
gabriel_laddel: The browser, window manager, gui library and emacs are all connected to the same common lisp process and are explorable at runtime. Conkeror is based on Emacs and shares some of the same conceptual foundation, thus, the whole experience feels very lispy. The lessons system is 'dialed-in'. For example, you can specify that the user is to scroll to 80% of a particular URL, at which point you want the windows arranged
gabriel_laddel: 1/2 emacs 1/2 clim gui and XYZ files open with a (emacs) window arrangement just so.
gabriel_laddel: The state saving facility allows for saving saving and restoration of all URLs, scroll locations, files and window arrangement on a whim. CLIM gui applications that obey the recommended architecture can also trivially plug into this system.
gabriel_laddel: There are several other things that simply "make sense", but have somehow not found their way into mainstream linux. One of which is the dashboard. Currently it lists how many lisp LoC and projects are running on the entire machine. It also manages the habits system and allows for one to say, practice mathematics for 1 hours a day without fail, at which point it restores the state prior to starting the habit.
gabriel_laddel: All state is saved via persistent CLOS by default.
gabriel_laddel: no explicit transactions etc. necessary. Just `setf' the state of the object in question.
asciilifeform: state saving and restoration << sbcl's 'save world and die' ?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: Nope. Though I should include that. The state saving is for files, window layouts, urls and their scroll locations.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: iirc that SBCL functionality needs some work before it is ready for production.
BingoBoingo is sarcastic when says needs to build on VAX, prolly should though.
BingoBoingo needs to get a working VAX
gabriel_laddel: If anyone has requests for things they'd like to see in a dream distro. Let me know.
thestringpuller: gabriel_laddel: A copy of SimCity 2000 built in.
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: systemd
ben_vulpes: seriously though, sounds great. can't wait to give it a whirl.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32056 @ 0.00050818 = 16.2902 BTC [+] {4}
asciilifeform: what's a habit system ?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: say that you want to write a Captain's Log each day before going to sleep. Masamune formalizes this.
gabriel_laddel: And adds to it, e.g., when you start your daily mathematics practice it will pull up the previous state from where you left off.
ben_vulpes: is this a thing you wrote?
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: yes.
danielpbarron: !up badbitcoinadmin
gabriel_laddel: Oh, I should note - no systemd.
punkman: badbitcoinadmin: did you steal all the coinz?
ben_vulpes: i was just joking, gabriel_laddel
ben_vulpes: but that's awesome
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I realize that, but no systemd should be considered a feature IMO. One I forgot to list.
badbitcoinadmin: punkman this is a role account for badbitcoin.org
badbitcoinadmin: badbitcoin.org is a specialty site taht focuses on tracking various coin scams & those running them
asciilifeform: lol! same 'badbitcoin' that was funded by gaw ?
BingoBoingo: !b 2
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1ZNPDC0.txt )
punkman: oh so he did steal all the coinz
punkman: badbitcoinadmin: are you in the wot? why "role account"?
BingoBoingo is about to crash into sleep, someone else is going to have to take up !b sniping duties.
badbitcoinadmin: This account squats & logs #badbitcoin
BingoBoingo: So... what does account do here then?
punkman: so you are gonna track all the HYIP scams that take bitcoin?
punkman: why bother
badbitcoinadmin: right now, this was first thing I found that was set up for Freenode
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: do you know of any information about AMD Opteron's k8 microcode or the chip in question? I found http://www.securiteam.com/securityreviews/5FP0M1PDFO.html but nothing else on the matter. Also, do you know of a better place to ask this question? I'm not a haxx0r.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9zk7w )
danielpbarron: !gettrust badbitcoinadmin
assbot: badbitcoinadmin is not registered in WoT.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: afaik, nothing has ever leaked re: the microcode structure. all that is known is how to invoke the updater, the approximate structure of the blob, and the fact that - unlike intel's - there is no crypto/authentication
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: hence, one might learn something by trial and error (entirely possible to smoke the chip, sure.)
danielpbarron: badbitcoinadmin, http://www.contravex.com/2014/09/23/please-to-pgp-guide-for-linux-os-x-windows/
assbot: Please To PGP (Guide for Linux, OS X, Windows) | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9zSKw )
badbitcoinadmin: I am familiar with PGP, but only have a few contacts who use it. What's next?
danielpbarron: instructions on how to register your key with assbot and other commands are here -> http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
assbot: irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9AwrE )
badbitcoinadmin: OK, I see, some crypto hoops to jump through. Might not do it until tomorrow, looks straightforward enough.
decimation: re: wikileaks << it's pretty lulzy that the 'staff' idiots were using third party mail providers anyway
punkman: https://dolphin-emu.org/compat/ interesting
assbot: Dolphin Emulator - Compatibility List - page # ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9Ckka )
asciilifeform thought that this could have been an emulator for the xerox dolphin, very disappointed
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-01-2015#991865 > now you can emulate it too http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4546☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-01-2015 19:42:05; ben_vulpes: i've seen windows 3.1 in javascript...
assbot: The Emularity « ASCII by Jason Scott ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9CuIs )
asciilifeform: punkman: the x86-in-js emulator is at least 2 years old, and is about as interesting as a full-sized replica of the eiffel tower made from toothpicks.
asciilifeform: which is to say, you might admire the patience of the maker, but at the end of the day, the only question is - 'why?'
asciilifeform: (what's a xerox 'dolphin' ? this: http://www.digibarn.com/friends/alanfreier/index.html )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9CY1g )
mats: ;;seen MisterE
gribble: MisterE was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 41 weeks, 2 days, 10 hours, 39 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <MisterE> Deer Hunter was masterpiece
punkman: asciilifeform: archive.org's has an impressive number of emulators that will work in browsers, I think that's nice
asciilifeform: 'work'
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/06f4ab072b398760c7812ba94ca49b15/tumblr_n9nqevnvIy1tvd51wo1_500.jpg "you sure you put the car keys in here ?!"
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9DGvl )
punkman: of course the real hero is http://www.mess.org/
assbot: Welcome to the MESS Wiki! [MESS] ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9DHzt )
punkman: "supports 962 unique systems"
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Imma spend a few hours now reading trilema and listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd to get the liberal brainwashing out. << i lollered.
asciilifeform: the 'let's run complex proggies in the browser' thing is monumentally retarded. esp. in light of how it actually works in practice (e.g. js and its all-numerics-are-floats, etc)
punkman: yeah I can't disagree with that
asciilifeform: 'let's use machine whose architecture is in no sense standardized, with approx. the performance of a 486 dx-100'
mircea_popescu: it's fun!!1
mircea_popescu: standards are racist. the spec is the code. WE ARE BRINGING STUFF TO AFRICA
mircea_popescu: economists agree. i have heard from entrepreneurs. we'll discuss it in san jose
mircea_popescu: someone should make a gavin retardobot
asciilifeform: when do we get africa brought to these folks.
thestringpuller: ;;calc 5/12
gribble: 0.416666666667
asciilifeform: preferably maximally armed, demented africa
asciilifeform: preferably - to san jose
mircea_popescu: that's not really africa, we'll call it isis
mircea_popescu: !up colonel32
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19414 @ 0.00052056 = 10.1062 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: anyone who works with power shapers knows better than to hand guide a router << it was hand guided by a robotic hand.
punkman: !up coderwill
coderwill: thanks punkman
coderwill: good evening/morning everyone :)
mircea_popescu: http://www.poisonedminds.com/tests/dic/ btw
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JroS9B )
decimation: gabriel_laddel: sounds like an interesting os, would be worth a spin
coderwill: afternoon too, oops.
coderwill: mircea_popescu: saw your reply RE: circle, yeah, it's almost like they want to be a venmo or square pay now or something
mircea_popescu: they want to be whatever takes no work and provides no service.
mircea_popescu: basically, they wish to be one of those vc scams where "it can't be proven they have no market share" and so... safe investment.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel you might have something there.
punkman: mircea_popescu: which dic are you?
mircea_popescu: i dunno it crapped out and gave me straight php code instead of executing it
mircea_popescu: $temp) { $loadpage = "Stalin"; $temp = $Stalin;} if ($Blair > $temp) { $loadpage = "Blair"; $temp = $Blair;} if ($Hitler > $temp) { $loadpage = "Hitler"; $temp = $Hitler;} if ($Bush > $temp) { $loadpage = "Bush"; $temp = $Bush;} if ($Hussein > $temp) { $loadpage = "Hussein"; $temp = $Hussein;} if ($Omar > $temp) { $loadpage = "Omar"; $temp = $Omar;} if ($Castro > $temp) { $loadpage = "Castro"; $temp = $Castro;} if ($Ma
mircea_popescu: o > $temp) { $loadpage = "Mao"; $temp = $Mao;} if ($Milosevic > $temp) { $loadpage = "Milosevic"; } include("http://www.poisonedminds.com/tests/dic/" . $loadpage . ".html"); ?>
mircea_popescu: !up badbitcoinadmin
mircea_popescu: what do you think a "role account" is ?
coderwill: i wonder how they will monetize
mircea_popescu: coderwill considering this is perhaps the 8th or 9th attempt, and all the previous ones monetized in the vessenes manner (whitewashing services for scammers)...
mircea_popescu: http://38.media.tumblr.com/3431bae3b538ec058d5f5d44a8039ed9/tumblr_n9qtidqcvJ1s93wm2o1_400.gif << the princess of freshair
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jrq5hl )
punkman: coderwill, so you work at blockchain.info?
coderwill: no, i quit back in september
punkman: ah smart move
coderwill: ;)
mircea_popescu: are they cutting back on personnel too /
coderwill: i don't think so, it appears they are hiring after closing the round
punkman: did employees get any equity?
coderwill: no, not when i was there it was very strange
coderwill: there were promises of equity but nothing official that i saw (other than verbal)
punkman: !rate coderwill 1 for #b-a voice
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/17ba08908423ac1c
coderwill: thanks
coderwill: people may have some type of vesting now that they announced they had that 30 million raise, i don't know though
mats: 20 to 30 inches of snow anticipated... wtf
coderwill: it's snowmageddon :)
mats: its hilarious that anyone wanted to pay so much as 1mn for blockchain.info
coderwill: i heard it might be the most snow ever for new york city
mircea_popescu: mats two feet in mass.
mats: ya. 75mph gusts anticipated
mats: o_O
mircea_popescu: anyway, everyone was driving their fuel supplies down
mircea_popescu: heating the nw may be problematic.
mats: that reminds me, i should stock up on food and water
coderwill: it's strange, we are having these crazy "polar vortexes" (last year) and now potentially record snow in new york, and earlier this year in buffalo
decimation: re: earlier conversation on the 'need' to travel >> http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2011/09/travel-and-mind.html << " Warnie Lewis, a leading expert on Versailles, never visited Versailles."
assbot: Bruce Charlton's Miscellany: Travel and the mind ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9H0Xw )
danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/CBur36/status/559540033263136770
assbot: So /McDonalds is goin to start accepting a random type currency soon.. I wonder it its /search?q=%24btc&src=ctag /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash
punkman: balmy 15C here, no winter for me :P
punkman: well I did get 0.1 inch of snow few weeks ago
coderwill: i just saw a link the other day that at the same time, 2014 was the warmest year on record - also, something that in the last 10 years a ridiculous amount of warm weather records have been broken
mats: g-g-global warming!
coderwill: wild time to be alive no doubt
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00052308 = 8.3954 BTC [+] {3}
decimation: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2915061/Nasa-climate-scientists-said-2014-warmest-year-record-38-sure-right.html
decimation: "As a result, GISS’s director Gavin Schmidt has now admitted Nasa thinks the likelihood that 2014 was the warmest year since 1880 is just 38 per cent. However, when asked by this newspaper whether he regretted that the news release did not mention this, he did not respond." < lol daily mail
coderwill: interesting
mircea_popescu: decimation "leading expert in english"
mircea_popescu: punkman it's about 28 here.
mircea_popescu: coderwill the "warmest year" bs is just that.
decimation: even the AP published a retraction after the daily mail called them out http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d7375a310ef6475c9841accc756c4ba4/heat-noaa-nasa-say-2014-warmest-year-record
assbot: Clarification: Hottest Year story ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9HP2r )
decimation: "The story also reported that 2014 was the hottest year on record, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA, but did not include the caveat that other recent years had average temperatures that were almost as high — and they all fall within a margin of error that lessens the certainty that any one of the years was the hottest."
decimation: lol
punkman: mircea_popescu: does BA ever get below 0C?
mircea_popescu: punkman not in recorded history.
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/b0d8476f67041da770a9fcf6567199c6/tumblr_n9fwbqHUdl1sifpsfo1_1280.jpg << hottest chick ever photographed.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9HTiP )
mircea_popescu: *note = other chicks photographed also hot ; exactly how hot is disputed.
decimation: also, there's a large margin of error, but we are really sure that there's a trend here
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: any thoughts re: whether we want an upgrade mechanism in the toy node ?
decimation: asciilifeform: gonna burn some fuses?
mircea_popescu: specifically no.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that was my thought.
asciilifeform: because guess who is certain to ask 'install upgrade plz'
mircea_popescu: if there's some sort of hole put in deliberately,
mircea_popescu: 90% of its utility/planned use is surrepetitious "upgrades"
asciilifeform: we could conceivably 'tivoize' the thing
mircea_popescu: person wants to upgrade, torch the box set up a new one.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.0005121 = 12.5977 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: nah, let the owner be in control.
mircea_popescu: but THE OWNER.
asciilifeform: wasn't even thinking of remote upgrade, but local (insert image on stick)
coderwill: speaking of BA, i like the work this design company puts out down there: https://aerolab.co/
assbot: Aerolab - Design and Development for Startups and Leading Brands ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9IAZt )
decimation: http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/january/25/adios-cuba/ << " Now, the lame duck Obama administration has finally figured out how to put an end to Cuba’s Communist system: human wave attacks by hordes of American tourists in loud golf wear yelling “USA, USA!” and waving Visa cards." "Cubans are not ready for loud, aggressive tourists shoving money in their faces. Nor are these easy-going islanders
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9J1CP )
decimation: mentally prepared for tens of thousands of pushy New Yorkers (I’m also one) or overly emotional Miami Cubans who think they are returning royalty. Waves of carpetbaggers will pour in trying to buy everything that isn’t nailed down with their gringo dollars. Every Cuban exile sees himself as the next El Presidente."
coderwill: mircea_popescu: re: warmest year stuff, yeah, not sold on it either, the weather does seem strange though
coderwill: mircea_popescu: maybe just cylical on a timespan that's not being well perceived
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41350 @ 0.00050861 = 21.031 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the flip side of the medal is that these things are not the least bit difficult to reprogram. i can easily picture the phoundation distributing an 'upgrader' anyway
coderwill: e.g. 10 years ago, hurricanes were everywhere in the gulf of mexico, now there are very few
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the most that can be done is to button it up so that replacing bootloader requires soldering on the missing uart pins
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00052478 = 2.3615 BTC [+]
hanbot: asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, cazalla, mircea_popescu, qntra folks: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/01/23/barrett-browns-prison-time-raises-cybersecurity-journalism-concerns << today this fella went off to jail. << yknow the article only mentions it in passing, but apparently the guy fucked around with an fbi agent. i'd wager the shit he's in has more to do with that than posting w/e link. how many others posted links or even hosted the
assbot: Barrett Brown's Prison Time Raises Cybersecurity, Journalism Concerns - US News ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9JPaQ )
hanbot: stuff themselves? and yet, he's the one in jail.
asciilifeform: hanbot: for various reasons, brown was a good 'example to be made'
asciilifeform: and yes, he is probably guilty of, among other things, insulting a loyal servant of the crown.
coderwill: sheesh, that's pretty scary
asciilifeform: probably even of 'lèse-majesté'.
hanbot: i somehow doubt it's as much a piece of hay in the stack as all that. you piss someone off enough, they'll find what with to beat you.
hanbot: i'm only surprised it wasn't another "child pornography" circus
asciilifeform: can't use the same six words to hang every honest man.
asciilifeform: gotta have some variety.
punkman: good thing everyone's dumpingall their thoughts on twitter and facebook
coderwill: it says that the majority of brown's sentence is from threatening an fbi agent in a youtube video
coderwill: http://time.com/3680594/barrett-brown-sentencing/
assbot: Barrett Brown Defiant After Sentencing Over Stratfor Hacking ... ( http://bit.ly/1EKI6nS )
hanbot: ah, the time piece covers it better, yeah.
punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOW7GOrXNZI
assbot: Why I'm Going to Destroy FBI Agent Robert Smith Part Three: Revenge of the Lithe - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1EKIlzi )
asciilifeform: does not follow that, had he not done this deed, would be a free man.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24587 @ 0.00052508 = 12.9101 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: there is a ru idiom, 'Дело шито белыми нитками' - 'the [criminal] case is sewn with white thread.'
asciilifeform: it comes from the old-fashioned binding that was used in ussr for court documents - ordinary thread and cardboard cover
asciilifeform: when seals were stamped onto the pages in the binder, the thread - originally white - would turn blue, black, red, depending on the colour of the seal on that page
asciilifeform: but if the pages were moved around at a later date, from the state monkeying with the record, the thread would have to be cut and replaced
asciilifeform: and would end up white in places where one would expect to see a colour.
asciilifeform: hence idiom is used to describe criminal cases such as, well, this one.
hanbot: ha, i like it
mats: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/one-in-seven-australians-living-in-poverty-according-to-new-report-20141011-114o1b.html
assbot: One in seven Australians living in poverty, according to new report ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9LYUa )
mats: interesting definition of poverty
hanbot: anyway, ludicrous as the entire thing is, the usnews version irked me with subrug sweeping. there are ways to handle agents, and there are ways to set them on the vendetta path.
hanbot: and btw mats re that tinder thing: i remember several years ago reading about some similar jazz (a special watch iirc) in japan for people too timid to meet others on their own
hanbot: tinder seems about there.
asciilifeform: hanbot: 'lovegetty'
asciilifeform: it was, iirc, more of a pocket watch
hanbot: o hey, exactly
asciilifeform: many, i imagine, disappointed buyers.
asciilifeform: machine - cannot increase operator's smv.
hanbot: i mean...i guess if you're very shy, uninterested in changing that, and also interested in fucking other shy people adverse to change, it'd be great, but...really?
punkman: http://www.cuddlrapp.com/
assbot: Cuddlr ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9Nmpz )
asciilifeform: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.5-armel-cross/+bug/662887
assbot: Bug #662887 “internal compiler error during U-Boot compilation” : Bugs : gcc-4.5-armel-cross package : Ubuntu ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9Oc5L )
asciilifeform: 'status: New → Won't Fix'
asciilifeform: shitgnomery.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13792 @ 0.00050713 = 6.9943 BTC [-]
mats: hanbot: you are an american expat yes? and you understand the peculiarities of american dating culture?
mats: dunno that it has anything to do with shyness. more like... people have become more alone in spite of glowing rectangles supposedly networking us together
mats: anyway such apps are where the college chicks go, so i follow
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00050386 = 1.9147 BTC [-]
trinque scratches his head at the btcd+btcctl combo apparently not being able to look up an address's balance without the wallet bits
trinque: btw I am also undata, likely will use this handle from now on
trinque: punkman: did you just keep a local count of deedbot's balance?
punkman: I used electrum
trinque: ah so you had a wallet handy
trinque: http://tbtc.blockr.io/address/info/mpz3LvxS4bucReULkfKYfDCGLGBVChZVow << sending some tests
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1BqRRqv )
punkman: iirc conformal had a lib for accessing the db, no?
punkman: https://github.com/btcsuite/btcdb
assbot: btcsuite/btcdb · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1BqRXhQ )
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/2d066532878b9879567f4670d6bedabe/tumblr_n562y35wFb1rzzxego1_1280.jpg << for nubbins` war effort.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9QPVd )
mircea_popescu: !gettrust undata
assbot: undata is not registered in WoT.
mircea_popescu: !gettrust trinque
assbot: Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user trinque: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 3 via 1 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/mircea_popescu/trinque | http://w.b-a.link/user/trinque
mircea_popescu: makes sense.
trinque: #btcd tells me I'll eventually be able to query address balance with just btcd and btcctl... seems like keeping its own count is fine, no?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: missing: the ants.
danielpbarron: http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/christian-mom-gives-leggings-god "When I walk into a place and there are women wearing yoga pants everywhere, it's hard to not look. I don't, but it's not easy," Partridge's husband allegedly said.
assbot: Christian Mom Gives Up Leggings For God ... ( http://bit.ly/1BqT2pY )
trinque: mircea_popescu: when the hash of the bundle is not a valid key would you prefer to wait for more deeds, or some other behavior?
trinque: punkman suggests re-hasing
punkman: as per asciilifeform's suggestion ^
mircea_popescu: yes rehash
trinque: k
Adlai: trinque, mircea_popescu, have you had a look yet at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=411974.0 ? (at worst, this would just save some money)
assbot: Promechard: Proprietary Metablock Chains for Arbitrary Data ... ( http://bit.ly/1zeOEfP )
trinque: punkman brings up another good point about the ambiguous ordering of two bundles which end up in the same block
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33750 @ 0.0005022 = 16.9493 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: Adlai im no sure what this is supposed to be ?
Adlai: how to do deeds efficiently
mircea_popescu: mno.
mircea_popescu: it's not how to do deeds efficiently, it's how to include people you don't know. i am not interested.
Adlai: that's not what it is, maybe you should read the actual paper?
mircea_popescu: papers of unknown authors chance of being read is ~0%.
mircea_popescu: especially if said authors are alive.
mircea_popescu: let them get in the wot.
Adlai: here's a shorter explanation of the technique: https://mathgate.info/promechard.php
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1xX7wKq )
mircea_popescu: somehow we're not communicating. at issue is the proposition that ideas are worth anything, and somehow people can ride on the value of their ideas.
mircea_popescu: this is false. people can only ride on the value of their reputaiton, and "ideas" are not only worthless, but outright meaningless.
mircea_popescu: i simply don't care what some derps not in the wot think they have to say.
Adlai: who said anything about people riding? i'm not talking about people, i'm talking solely about the idea. if you want some reputation to associate with the idea, shoot the messenger.
mircea_popescu: i am not.
mircea_popescu: i am never talking about any idea.
mircea_popescu: unless it starts with "here's what X said", im ignoring it.
mircea_popescu: unsigned code doesn't exist. "ideas" never happened. etc.
mircea_popescu: i guess i should add "culture" to the list of things bitcoin is disrupting.
Adlai says, deedbot can spend half as much coin and create zero as much pollution; if there's interest, he can review and sign the code doing it
mircea_popescu: brb
mircea_popescu: Adlai how much it spends is arbitrarily small anyway, and set to a certain sum more to encourage the diggers than anything tho ?
Adlai: the promechard technique can still have any fee you like, and it'd go directly to the miners, rather than into an unspendable output
mircea_popescu: the output is spendable.
Adlai: hash(clearsigned gpg message) is spendable?
mircea_popescu: it keeps hashing until it makes a valid pubkey yes
Adlai: to which it has the privkey?
mircea_popescu: that's the whole idea, anyone can spend the sum on the basis of the notarized documents.
Adlai: hm. why?
mircea_popescu: doubles as a faucet, basically.
Adlai: so it's spendable (by the earliest bird!), but it's still a tiny amount. this is like leaving a beggar individual pennies, more insulting than anything else
mircea_popescu: !up blah
mircea_popescu: i dun follow.
Adlai: lol alright, if that's the intent, it makes sense
fluffypony: this guy was basically mircea_popescu - http://i.imgur.com/7lILO4H.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1yUhsbK )
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i just spent today listening to "i did it my way" and thinking frankie was basically me.
mircea_popescu: oddly enough, mailer looks like sinatra!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.001089 = 1.089 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55764 @ 0.00049925 = 27.8402 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00102 = 1.02 BTC [-] {3}
fluffypony: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2tme2e/i_will_be_going_to_africa_this_summer_to/
assbot: I will be going to Africa this summer to introduce bitcoin to airline services, hotel services and much much more! I will also be hosting a blog soon so I can update on the progress made! Hey who knows I might start an african bitcoin foundation while I am there : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/15zN22s )
fluffypony: fucking retard.
Adlai: maybe he'll reach some of the 419 scammers, that would give free marketing, like cryptolocker et al
punkman: http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-GP571_0126ma_P_20150125204027.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/18iUNMh )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00050386 = 1.1085 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2100 @ 0.00109009 = 2.2892 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3750 @ 0.00114917 = 4.3094 BTC [+] {13}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4155 @ 0.00049875 = 2.0723 BTC [-]
punkman: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 302.62, Best ask: 304.41, Bid-ask spread: 1.79000, Last trade: 302.62, 24 hour volume: 48938.56740845, 24 hour low: 241.33, 24 hour high: 309.9, 24 hour vwap: 266.093376488
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.10598299 = 1.6957 BTC [+] {4}
fluffypony: http://np.reddit.com/r/worldpolitics/comments/2to7nl/poverty_inc_argues_that_wall_street_and_the/co12mef?context=3
assbot: gloomdoom comments on Poverty Inc. argues that Wall Street and the banking industry’s portrayal of "business as usual" is undermining our democracy, shattering the lives of working class families and the poor, while endangering the very environmental balance of the planet. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JMMwfa )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00049179 = 20.2126 BTC [-] {2}
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2015#992434 <<< yes please☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-01-2015 03:06:29; thestringpuller: gabriel_laddel: A copy of SimCity 2000 built in.
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2015#992501 <<< yes please☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-01-2015 04:02:39; mircea_popescu: someone should make a gavin retardobot
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2015#992657 <<< you merely need the unspent outs☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-01-2015 05:53:10; *: trinque scratches his head at the btcd+btcctl combo apparently not being able to look up an address's balance without the wallet bits
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1344 @ 0.00107998 = 1.4515 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18534 @ 0.00049772 = 9.2247 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00101048 = 1.0105 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00048965 = 8.0058 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50300 @ 0.00049677 = 24.9875 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: Adlai : http://trilema.com/2015/ok-so-what-is-bitcoin-disrupting/ updated nao
assbot: Ok, so what is Bitcoin disrupting ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CIl3uS )
mircea_popescu: http://edgeandback.ro/how-luke-evans-came-in-romania-and-the-romanian-press-wasnt-invited/ << lulzy butthurt.
assbot: How Luke Evans came in Romania and the Romanian press wasn't invited | Edge and Back ... ( http://bit.ly/1CIlky3 )
Adlai: if it wasn't clear, by http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2015#992700 means "act as though the first wot member who suggests an idea invented it"☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-01-2015 07:42:06; Adlai: who said anything about people riding? i'm not talking about people, i'm talking solely about the idea. if you want some reputation to associate with the idea, shoot the messenger.
mircea_popescu: prolly the way it'll work.
Adlai: i wasn't bringing this up as "look at coinbase, they're doing something!", but as "maybe i can help your thing do its stuff better" (setting aside the bit about deedbot doubling as a faucet, which works fine in the current method)
mircea_popescu: yeh, i got that.
Adlai: either way, i really oughtta spend my time chasing floats instead of ec points
mircea_popescu: what's ec points ?
Adlai: elliptic curve points
Adlai: ie, working on scalpl rather than studying crypto curiosities
mircea_popescu: ah. well honestly, on the face of it, that sounded backwards.
Adlai: how so?
mircea_popescu: like... srsly, floats rather than elliptic curve points ?!
mircea_popescu: "i should spend my time finding grass rather than fish".
Adlai: yeah it doesn't make much sense because it's a stupid pursuit, i'm hunting out floating point arithmetic now that scalpl needs to quack a little less like a prototype
mircea_popescu: anyway. scalpl made a killing on the rise ? or got kinda murdered ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42563 @ 0.00050252 = 21.3888 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/6915e105aacb853a3d129ca49d59a7de/tumblr_n5gtpcUuwc1tbxihoo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1CIlKEA )
Adlai: it never makes killings or gets kinda murdered, it just creeps along. sometimes it bleeds a little from the ears when the volume gets too loud.
Adlai is listening to: Metallica - The Call Of Ktulu (8:54)
Adlai: re IV - art is neither dead nor dying, but tastes change, and the financial incentives about them... maybe if it becomes less profitable overall, there'll be less crap commercialized art such as pop music or koons balloons
mircea_popescu: there's nothing to do with "tastes"
mircea_popescu: art is purely prescriptive.
Adlai: the eradication of a disease doesn't signal the end of medicine, just a change of "tastes". same for art's prescriptions
Adlai: the nice thing about firing clients is that you get to work for yourself!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2627 @ 0.0010089 = 2.6504 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38600 @ 0.00050221 = 19.3853 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: \ele
mircea_popescu: http://www.worldtribune.com/2015/01/23/obama-administration-intervened-argentine-probe-iranian-leader-jewish-center-bombing/
assbot: Obama administration intervened in Argentine probe of Iranian leader, Jewish center bombing - World Tribune | World Tribune ... ( http://bit.ly/1C6yBRT )
mircea_popescu: theplot that keeps on thickening.
Adlai: so in the pre-bitcoin economy, entrepeneurs sought financiers. what do you call a well-capitalized wot presence that lends its credibility to a bitcoin venture?
mircea_popescu: i would guess a financier, what's wrong with that ?
Adlai: nothing, just wondering what you'd call them in this economy
Adlai seeks a wot financier. inquiries welcome in private or public, whichever is preferred.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00050386 = 4.6859 BTC [+]
Adlai: rise, chicken! you may lay another egg yet.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: later!
Adlai: o/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00051082 = 10.7272 BTC [+] {4}
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8PQVvEIIAI10Uw.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1C6DBpu )
Adlai: (my idea has exactly nothing to do with elliptic curves)
mike_c: sekrit idea?
Adlai: !s inquiries from:adlai
assbot: 0 results for 'inquiries from:adlai' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=inquiries+from%3Aadlai
Adlai: blah. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2015#992794 << mike_c☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-01-2015 13:58:31; *: Adlai seeks a wot financier. inquiries welcome in private or public, whichever is preferred.
punkman: Adlai: for scalpl?
mike_c: yes, i saw that. so what's the idea?
Adlai: a scalpl-managed fund, where investors could add or withdraw bitcoin in a manner similar to how X.EUR handles settlements
Adlai: there are a bunch of variables in this arrangement, such as - who has what control of which accounts
punkman: as in kraken accounts?
Adlai: any exchange where the fund would trade. scalpl currently supports btce, bitfinex, and kraken, but the api is modular and more can be added (not my focus atm, but ~3 days of work per exchange if necessary)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24800 @ 0.0005019 = 12.4471 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00050301 = 8.1236 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26735 @ 0.00051221 = 13.6939 BTC [+] {2}
davout: Adlai: so ppl deposit funds with you, you put them on some exchange (or people push funds to your exchange account) and whatever p/l scalpl makes is distributed among them, minus your fee?
thestringpuller: lol bond holder and profit sharer tightly coupled
Adlai: that's one constellation, but not the one i'd prefer
davout: what's the arrangement you'd prefer?
Adlai: i'd rather the accounts belong to the financier(s). they lend reputation - people trust them not to run off more than they'd trust me, and they lend their credibility to account statements. my role would be setting up scalpl, possibly maintenance, analysis, development - but on a case by case basis, as seen fit by the financier(s) and/or shareholders
Adlai: the most i'd ever have control of is api keys with trade permission, but not withdrawal permission; and it could easily be arranged that i never touch api keys myself, just deliver code or service an app taken offline, with api keys expunged from its server.
davout: ok, that i get
Adlai: also, for my own psychological reasons at this phase in my life, i'd rather get a carpenter's salary than equity in the furniture shop
Adlai: although this is flexible, and it could make sense to establish a minimum stake for alignment of interests
davout: unless i'm mistaken equity would be irrelevant if you structure that as a bond, amirite
davout: that too
Adlai: by structure as a bond, you mean - anybody deposits the amount they want, and has p/l tracked (and dividends paid) for that amount?
Adlai: i'm not certain how you'd handle that technically, because you want deposits to reach exchange accounts, in various proportions; do you have bond-buyers deposit directly into the exchange accounts, and the financier submits to the exchange signed statements of bond deposits to issue shares?
Adlai: i guess you don't even need shares if it's bonded in this manner, it can just be a bond directly between the exchange owner and depositors
Adlai: you don't even need the exchange!
davout: to me there's two distinct things
davout: the exchange where scalpl does its thing
davout: the exchange where the bond is traded
davout: say there is an account on paymium with 100 BTC in it which i deposited
Adlai: right. you need an exchange to scalp, but you don't *need* to trade the bonds
Adlai: ok
davout: i issue 100 bonds with a 1 BTC face value
danielpbarron: Adlai> also, for my own psychological reasons at this phase in my life, i'd rather get a carpenter's salary << probably not the best metaphor
davout: one week later, scalpl made 7% profit
davout: we now have 107 BTC in the exchange account
davout: the bonds should now trade for 1.07 BTC
Adlai: should, assuming that the market has access to that information; this would depend on how transparently the fund is operated. weekly statements? daily? per-trade?
davout: if you take a bond out of circulation you refund it as (amount in exchange acct)/100
davout: ideally upon request
Adlai: most fun is just publishing readonly api keys to the accounts in the listing
davout: not saying this is in any way the correct way to structure that thing, simply thinking out loud
davout: yup, readonly keys, win
davout: wire that to a b-a bot
davout: the problem i see is that each (financier, exchange) pair represents basically a different bond
davout: you'd take your fee in the form of free bonds
Adlai: is that a problem, or just an artefact of market segmentation?
davout: i see it as a problem in the sense that they're not really fungible
Adlai: D.XYZW are distinct, despite being cut from the same stuff
Adlai: so you can have distinct S.CALP.PAYM etc
davout: yes, not a problem if the bonds clearly state that
Adlai: danielpbarron: 'i choose my words carefully, and i never repeat myself' ?
Adlai: sure, each bond can be a separate contract between a financier and the exchange
jurov: why not just offer scalpl as service for some fee?
danielpbarron: Adlai, just some topical humor; don't mind me :p
Adlai: :)
Adlai: jurov: overhead
Adlai: in a sense, it's currently offered as a service for some fee - my time in dealing with your (not personally anybody in this channel) bullshit
jurov: overhead compared to what? structuring/trading bonds?
Adlai: overhead compared to having a collaborator handle financing (of both forms), leaving me to focus on scalpl itself
jurov: mkay
Adlai: in case it fell between the cracks - i'm always interested in 'alpha testers', especially if they see it as a service rather than a freebie that a sucker on irc will walk them through for his own warm fuzzies
Adlai: another reason to work with a financier is that it opens up the door for exchange presence in the wot
Adlai: let's say davout handles this for paymium, and it brings them increasing business. smart exchanges may follow suit.
Adlai: it's most idiomatic for the reputation at risk to be that of the exchange owner
Adlai pokes STRML
mats: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150123/07461729791/former-head-gchq-warns-ethically-worse-kinds-spying-if-unbreakable-encryption-is-allowed.shtml "HUMINT is sooo expensive..."
assbot: Former Head of GCHQ Warns Of 'Ethically Worse' Kinds Of Spying If Unbreakable Encryption Is Allowed | Techdirt ... ( http://bit.ly/15L3ldL )
Adlai: um, forcing ethically worse spying is the point. cf HGW XX/7
Adlai refers the yet-uncultured to http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_lives_of_others/
assbot: The Lives of Others - Rotten Tomatoes ... ( http://bit.ly/15CjlhA )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44944 @ 0.00050579 = 22.7322 BTC [-] {2}
Apocalyptic: Adlai, good film that one
Adlai: also, i'm not yet a Serenissima Accreddited™ Investor, and that kind of coin isn't exactly burning holes in my wallet; so if this is to happen before the next major fiat devaluation...
Adlai: Apocalyptic: see what i mean about ethical spying? cf http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2014#919932 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 16:38:23; asciilifeform: Adlai: darcs << as a military man, perhaps you are familiar with systems that could be automated easily, but aren't? e.g., ru nuke sub controls
Adlai: cf http://aeon.co/magazine/technology/are-we-ready-for-companies-that-run-themselves/ and are we ready for scamferences that fund themselves?
assbot: Are we ready for companies that run themselves? – David Morris – Aeon ... ( http://bit.ly/15L5S7P )
Apocalyptic: I don't know there is such a thing as "ethical spying", the whole formula must be a joke
BingoBoingo: Re: Toy node discussion - Selling point for such a thing may be "privacy proxy" for Lite wallets.
Adlai: which is exactly why spying shouldn't be automated. maybe there's a situation where a person feels justified listening in on a conversation without explicit permission, but that call shouldn't be made in advance by a bureaucrat for every single conversation unto eternity
Adlai: BingoBoingo: sure, put spv servers of your choice on physically separate machines with reasonable rpc access to the node
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00051106 = 10.2212 BTC [+] {3}
thestringpuller: http://www.comcastro.com/2015/01/4-stevie-frederick-bitcoin-101-wtf-is-btc/
thestringpuller: http://www.comcastro.com/2015/01/5-stevie-frederick-bitcoin-202-new-world-order/
thestringpuller: ^- listen to me talk nonsense about bitcoin
thestringpuller: lol
Adlai: no need to put more turds onto the existing pile... and if you do, how do you pick which one? electrum-server, obelisk, etc?
BingoBoingo: Adlai: Well, SPV as the powerrangers say it now tends to mean the Bloom filter derp. If enough space is budgeted for the nodes though "address history" type arrangement like electrum server could work if electrum server did not rival bitcoind itself as a hog.
thestringpuller: ls
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19601 @ 0.0005054 = 9.9063 BTC [-]
Adlai: it shouldn't *need* anything beyond the current full node. if some fancier spv node wants bloom filters, put 0.9.bloom on its box and have it just listen to the safe node
Adlai: simple means simple damnit!
BingoBoingo: Yes, shouldn't indeed means shouldn't. https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum-server is the address history beast I was thinking of. Note that can become rapidly unfeasible on Gavincoin as does not take kindly to any pruning.
assbot: spesmilo/electrum-server · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/15L8eDz )
BingoBoingo: That thing builds its own indexed database of a size comparable to the block chain.
Adlai has started to think of pruning in a different manner - rather than reclaiming hard disk space, 'pruning' just means you can provably flush certain transactions from various caches. it's a time/space optimization, not a change of the glob's outward behavior
BingoBoingo: http://log.b-a.link/?date=26-01-2015#992788 << Wait, so Christina may have been set up by Obola?
assbot: Logged on 26-01-2015 13:46:38; mircea_popescu: http://www.worldtribune.com/2015/01/23/obama-administration-intervened-argentine-probe-iranian-leader-jewish-center-bombing/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3749 @ 0.0005054 = 1.8947 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8801 @ 0.00049533 = 4.3594 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1308 @ 0.00100476 = 1.3142 BTC [-] {9}
Adlai: another possible initial step for a cautious financier: pilot MPIF profit center
Adlai: another possible incentive: first financier consults gratis through march 1st
Adlai: now that's enough selling for one month
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2839 @ 0.00110533 = 3.138 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1178 @ 0.00117389 = 1.3828 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1050 @ 0.00117581 = 1.2346 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3496 @ 0.00117799 = 4.1183 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1373 @ 0.00117893 = 1.6187 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29219 @ 0.00050677 = 14.8073 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00049959 = 6.3948 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00051613 = 6.4 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: Adlai you want scalpl to become one of mpif profit centers?
Adlai: 'want' is a strong word. i'm suggesting it as a possibility, to an intrepid [General] Manager
BingoBoingo: !up bitspill
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/csm-profiles-homero-j-garza-serial-entrepreneur/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00051866 = 19.9165 BTC [+] {3}
xanthyos
BingoBoingo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8S5Kg7IAAABEFX.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ziRP6s )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00052046 = 5.9332 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00052258 = 10.6606 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39722 @ 0.00052503 = 20.8552 BTC [+] {3}
coderwill: hello all
jurov: hi coderwill
coderwill: how are you, jurov?
jurov: it's okay. today i was marrying hdd and ssd in btrfs raid
jurov: dunno why i do such crazy stuff. but works so far
coderwill: cool
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 300 @ 0.007 = 2.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.0005014 = 1.7549 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: tis quiet
thestringpuller: too quiet
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.46308271 BTC for Yes on "BTC back over $300 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1110/ Odds: 72(Y):28(N) by coin, 71(Y):29(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.15636312 BTC. Current weight: 76,473.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1441 @ 0.00110723 = 1.5955 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00052566 = 4.3104 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Things reddit dun like https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2tr5dy/this_is_the_true_thought_leader_of_bitcoin/
assbot: This is the true thought leader of Bitcoin : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1yJrOLr )
BingoBoingo: Facebook, for the still Poorer http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2015/01/26/facebook_android_users_in_developing_countries_can_now_use_facebook_lite.html
assbot: Facebook: Android users in developing countries can now use "Facebook Lite" as a simplified version of the social media networking app. ... ( http://bit.ly/1yJsfVV )
jurov: their bloat is unusable on 2y old android
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol thanks.
jurov: so they had to
mircea_popescu: "Bitcoin's thought-leader hangs out with people who pay underage girls for sex?" wut exactly is this ? i don't hang out with reddit...
davout: i already love this reddit thread
mircea_popescu: davout: Adlai: so ppl deposit funds with you, you put them on some exchange (or people push funds to your exchange account) and whatever p/l scalpl makes is distributed among them, minus your fee? << this sounds to me more like a classical fund
mircea_popescu: scalpl's irrelevant in this discussion, people don't care about it, people just care "i'm investing with adlai and he keeps the thing going"
mircea_popescu: much like panacea used to work, at least back when f.mpif had an investment.
jurov: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2tp2d7/ok_so_what_is_bitcoin_disrupting/ << same, not so lulzy tho
assbot: Ok, so what is Bitcoin disrupting? : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1yJt1SM )
mircea_popescu: anyway, how much capital are you looking for ?
mircea_popescu: "I'm certain he has no actual experience with that topic, unless you count webcam sessions with the working ladies over at girls gone bitcoin."
mircea_popescu: dude, srsly ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1312 @ 0.00110745 = 1.453 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: somebody drop the classic http://trilema.com/2010/nsfw-mosu-cu-joarda/ on r/buttcoin, see how they talk it away ?
assbot: NSFW - Mosu' cu joarda pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1yJtdS9 )
mircea_popescu: !up sensorii
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's kinda fun to wake up at 7pm to a bowlful of internet impotent rage.
mircea_popescu pours some milk, adds some cornflakes, eats it up, spits it out...
mircea_popescu: ...aaaaand dooooesss it hiiiiiiissss waaaaayyyy
davout: poor winklevii, they got cock-blocked so hard by the coinbase guys
mircea_popescu: lol saw that ?
mircea_popescu: !up phillipsjk
davout: forever alone winklevii
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10734 @ 0.00049972 = 5.364 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: lol kinda, yeah.
mircea_popescu: they're suffering from fat rich kid syndrome.
davout: what's the fat rich kid syndrome?
trinque: their only real claim to fame being "we sued hoodie CEO"
trinque: the guy who almost had a heart attack talking to Walt Mossberg
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: has no experience in fucking, although he keeps a harem.
hanbot: mats> dunno that it has anything to do with shyness. more like... people have become more alone in spite of glowing rectangles supposedly networking us together << it has everything to do with shyness tho, so long as what tinder's doing is removing the basic requirement of walking up to someone and asking if they'd like to drink/dance/fuck/whatever
davout: hanbot: i agree, the rectangles have merely made shy people more visible where shyness doesn't actually matter
hanbot: as though being turned down to your face is something to be avoided at all absurdities
hanbot: davout mhm!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00049743 = 1.7907 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: davout rich kid is ahead of the other kids, because his parents are technically a magic wand. fat kid is behind the other kids, because fat is unappealing. this tension creates very insane sort of behaviours.
davout: hah
mircea_popescu: generally it ends up twisted in the position where the other kids drive the wedge of forcing him to do things his magic wand disapproves of.
mircea_popescu: course the more perceptive magic wands try to do the exact same.
mircea_popescu: but in any case, nature abhors a tension, and it will be resolved.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller obviously. because the god of reddit hath so ordained that everything that can exist is directly accessible with no effort to anyone, and so... three second's effort is good enuf to form any opinion!
mircea_popescu: trinque for a minute there i thought hoodie is an actual vc "company"
mircea_popescu: btw mossberg got axed iirc ? he still around ?
mircea_popescu: in any event : http://41.media.tumblr.com/9ea31aa205736d9e7d22e95933f71218/tumblr_mz3e5lUWNv1sayo9ko1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LclmBV )
trinque: mircea_popescu: I'm sure there's some shartup out there going by Hoodie
mircea_popescu: Hoodie enables you to express yourself through technology by making web app development very fast, easy and accessible. It's a complete backend for your ...
trinque: dunno what mossberg's doing now; the event I'm recalling is... All Things Digital maybe? Zuck nearly had a panic attack responding to softball questions.
mircea_popescu: and right you are.
trinque shakes his head
trinque: this industry... burn it to the ground
mircea_popescu: working on it.
mircea_popescu: but meanwhile, http://40.media.tumblr.com/288689bfce3297a527e3b75a300b107e/tumblr_mw9fallq2Y1rdaiz9o1_500.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LcmchU )
trinque: dem curves!
davout: mircea_popescu trinque "hoodie is a committed team dedicated to hand-making gorgeous organic sweat shirts, delivered right to your door by our awesome fixie riders"
mircea_popescu: wait two of em ?!
mircea_popescu: http://hood.ie
assbot: hood.ie ... ( http://bit.ly/1LcmO7a )
davout: lol no i just made that up
mircea_popescu: i love how "awesome" has come to mean "i think we're not paying these dudes enough". originally teh various journalist herdsmen thought they were being oh so clever
mircea_popescu: but twenty years later sheer usage has worked the surfaces of the thing into the exact shape of its meaning.
mircea_popescu: wisdom of the crowds, this is exactly what it means.
mircea_popescu: !up CoraCrisT
CoraCrisT: thanks, M.
CoraCrisT: hey guys
mircea_popescu: sure. get in the wot already, you'll regret each wasted day in a few years.
mircea_popescu: davout: one week later, scalpl made 7% profit <<< best rng ever :D
thestringpuller: hanbot: this reminds me of my college where guise didn't know anything about this socializing thing.
thestringpuller: hanbot: "Lets be nice as possible to the girl and maybe she'll touch me even though I'm an awkward neck beard who needs more rejection"
pete_dushenski: howdy assets!
mircea_popescu: ello
pete_dushenski: how's that air in ba today?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00049559 = 14.4217 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: pretty sweet. http://40.media.tumblr.com/db77d8ed29ba1ef06ef579f07e658d47/tumblr_mr26k5HDwO1s7eb1eo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lcrmus )
pete_dushenski: it's really not bad here either, all things considered.
pete_dushenski: i'll take 0C in january
pete_dushenski: The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has established a research and essay competition in honor of Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah Bin Abdul-Aziz hosted by the National Defense University.
pete_dushenski: no word on how big the purse is
mircea_popescu: Adlai: in case it fell between the cracks - i'm always interested in 'alpha testers', especially if they see it as a service rather than a freebie that a sucker on irc will walk them through for his own warm fuzzies << heh the problem of "contests" and "giveaways" etc.
pete_dushenski: manual scoop: http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/26/even-north-korea-knows-that-public-relations-isnt-about-being-nice-anymore/
assbot: Even North Korea knows that public relations isn’t about being nice anymore. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lcvri6 )
mircea_popescu: mats: former-head-gchq-warns-ethically-worse-kinds-spying-if-unbreakable-encryption-is-allowed << asswipes in temper tantrum mode. "if we don't get chocolate we will piss in the bet"
mircea_popescu: somehow the obvious "bitch, if you piss in the bed you will be digging ditches naked 18 hours a day for the next five years." isn't quite obvious to gchq angry children.
pete_dushenski: and of course "ethical" is whatever benefits my narrow range of interests
pete_dushenski: because i'm the pre-copernican church
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45000 @ 0.00051104 = 22.9968 BTC [+] {2}
davout: !rated itkin
assbot: itkin is not registered in WoT.
davout: ;;rated itkin
gribble: You have not yet rated user itkin
TheNewDeal: ;;ident
gribble: Nick 'TheNewDeal', with hostmask 'TheNewDeal!~TheNewDea@unaffiliated/thenewdeal', is identified as user 'TheNewDeal', with GPG key id DFBEC17DF96DFB77, key fingerprint 468950118F292A0AA73BCCC3DFBEC17DF96DFB77, and bitcoin address None
TheNewDeal: ;;nethash
gribble: 272295812.481
TheNewDeal: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 340603 | Current Difficulty: 4.397166205608958E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 340703 | Next Difficulty In: 100 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 18 hours, 53 minutes, and 51 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 41248798297.7 | Estimated Percent Change: -6.19231
mircea_popescu: dropping again huh
pete_dushenski: looking that way.
pete_dushenski: that exahash is taking forever
pete_dushenski: i want it nao!
pete_dushenski: Uber promises not to price-gouge during massive east-coast blizzard << because what are prices good for anyways ?
mircea_popescu: "uber promises to make the market not work"
mircea_popescu: tell you what : if there's fifty people willingm to pay 1 dollar and five people willing to pay 10 dollars, and 5 cabs,
mircea_popescu: the cabs should fucking cost 10 dollar.
pete_dushenski: and if there's one cab, $100
pete_dushenski: this is how you get "everyone should have meat with every meal" turning agriculture into a 'meat' production industry
pete_dushenski: !up phillipsjk
pete_dushenski: heya phillipsjk, who are you?
phillipsjk: Have people been experiencing DDOS attacks? I have the sketchiest data, but suspect 1.2Gbps on saturday and larger today
pete_dushenski: there were a few "ddosbot" attacks over the weekend, ya
phillipsjk: Hi, I am James Phillips, dishwasher from Canada.
pete_dushenski: welcome
phillipsjk: I am not even running a bitcoin node. (only Friecoin) on this connection.
phillipsjk: I wonder if just joining this channel gets me on the hit-list.
pete_dushenski: if it did, you'd know already
pete_dushenski: i was hit within 30 seconds of logging on sans cloak
pete_dushenski: downed my internet for 30 minutes or so
mircea_popescu: phillipsjk told you the same in pm lol, did you get that ?
pete_dushenski: no ?
phillipsjk: he uped me
pete_dushenski: phillipsjk: so what intel do you have about these attacks?
phillipsjk: I am considering hooking up a packet sniffer nextime it happens.
thestringpuller: downed my internet for 30 minutes or so << yea that happened to me during netsplit was pretty bad
pete_dushenski: phillipsjk: you're on shawcable, so whereabouts in alberta are you?
phillipsjk: Router complained about "smurf attacks" (from china) but worry those may be false positives since the IPs were from /16 netblock and eneded in .255: 182.134.248.255 125.89.36.255 221.89.36.255
phillipsjk: Edmonton
pete_dushenski: cool. so am i actually.
pete_dushenski: how'd you find this place?
mircea_popescu: so wait, you're not being ddosed now ?
phillipsjk: Was told that the Future of Bitcoin is decided here, not in the Bitcointalk forums.
mircea_popescu: what, the kid just spikes a few kps for five minutes and then that's it, givwesu p ?
mircea_popescu: phillipsjk that part is true.
phillipsjk: mircea_popescu, it was about 30 minutes each time. at least 3 times.
mircea_popescu: but not anymore now /
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: not like ddosbot kid has infinity resources. has to end eventually
mircea_popescu: ?
mircea_popescu: anyway phillipsjk best practice would be to get a cloak.
thestringpuller: or connect from tor
thestringpuller: lol
phillipsjk: So you think it is jsut from joining this channel then?
pete_dushenski: i experienced the same 30 min ddos thing while fiddling with new irc clients
pete_dushenski: phillipsjk: almost certainly
thestringpuller: whenever my ip gets exposed i get hammered
mircea_popescu: phillipsjk definitely.
mircea_popescu: !s ddos
assbot: 455 results for 'ddos' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ddos
pete_dushenski: it's an unintentional barrier to entry, if anything
mircea_popescu: ^ look through there, it's discussed plenty
davout: phillipsjk: yes, people get ddosed from joining uncloaked
pete_dushenski: California threatens to seize land from billionaire if he doesn’t start letting surfers use his beach << for the people!
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: the last ddos knocked out my phones too
thestringpuller: my house phone couldn't dial out lol
pete_dushenski: The State Lands Commission may use powers never employed in its 77-year history, seizing private land for public use to end a battle between surfers and billionaire venture-capital investor Vinod Khosla, who has been locking a gate at his beach property along California’s Pacific Coast.
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: crazy
thestringpuller: script kiddie may not have infinite resources
thestringpuller: but can definitely fuck up my couch when he knows my address
danielpbarron: phillipsjk> Was told that the Future of Bitcoin is decided here, not in the Bitcointalk forums. << oh that's where i've seen your name! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919629.msg10247429#msg10247429
assbot: Fork off ... ( http://bit.ly/1yWtkKu )
[]bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $150 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1107/ Odds: 19(Y):81(N) by coin, 23(Y):77(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.61929562 BTC. Current weight: 68,439.
[]bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $100 before April" http://bitbet.us/bet/1108/ Odds: 18(Y):82(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 6.87303349 BTC. Current weight: 85,030.
phillipsjk: By 'we' I meant the reddit and Bitcointalk 'tards of course.
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: ah, good eye
phillipsjk: I may have confused MP with somebody else in that post. (MP is apparently not a coder)
pete_dushenski: phillipsjk: lol now you have me curious where you wash dishes. i can always go for a good meal on clean dinnerware
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.5 BTC for No on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) to drop under $40 before Mar 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1096/ Odds: 35(Y):65(N) by coin, 40(Y):60(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.35433047 BTC. Current weight: 51,859.
pete_dushenski: mp is definitely more beeznizmayn than codermonkey
phillipsjk: It is in my resume: Coliseum Pizza & Steak LTD.
pete_dushenski: a, famous spot, that
pete_dushenski: can't say i've been
phillipsjk: Need a day-job to keep hosting a Bitcoin node though.
pete_dushenski: that's pretty normal, really
danielpbarron: too expensive to run a full node? aren't you one of the ones trying to make the blocks bigger?
pete_dushenski: zing!
phillipsjk: If I us web-hosting I get 5TB/month for $80 or so
phillipsjk: I was paying $109.10 for commercial access. (300GB cap)
TheNewDeal: I am just imaginging advertisements on the TV, similar to those during political season in usia, with some phony from the Bitcoin Foundation and a sign "10gb blocks in 2016"
pete_dushenski: "yes we can"
pete_dushenski: anyways gang, i'm off. don't wear out those keyboards while i'm gone!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45500 @ 0.00052732 = 23.9931 BTC [+] {2}
danielpbarron: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2tp9w0/help_lost_wallet_data_5btc_reward/co13yq5?context=8 << guy gets 5 BTC for basically saying "did you try restarting it?" also, guy cries over getting 5 BTC
assbot: Introshine comments on HELP ! Lost wallet data, 5BTC reward ... ( http://bit.ly/1z3tnmi )
thestringpuller: "Don't you know? Human beings become omniscient, infallible gods the moment they begin accepting a paycheck from the state."
thestringpuller: ^- that guy gets it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20875 @ 0.0005194 = 10.8425 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> California threatens to seize land from billionaire if he doesn’t start letting surfers use his beach << for the people! << soooooo ... why would someone own anything in california ?
mircea_popescu: "There are those whose only concern is worshiping at the altar of money and turning a profit, whereas others see Bitcoin as a tool for social and political revolution."
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: libertard has cut up the pie!
mircea_popescu: "social and political revolution" = more of the same shit ; "worshipping at the altar of money" = actual social and political revolution. in the proper sense, as in, the opposite of evolution.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron funny hpw that doomad dude neglects to consider the point that "we can all use it" AS IT IS. unless we ALL agree to use it a different way, it is NOT HAPPENING.
mircea_popescu: irrespective of what "sociopolitical ideals" he miught wish to force on others.
mircea_popescu: the stuff one finds in the logs i swear.
mircea_popescu: "Your statement that the new fork won't succeed is nothing but speculation, your guess is only worth as much as anyone else's. No one can claim with any certainty that they know what's going to happen." << late to that party.
mircea_popescu: my "buy gavincoin at 25% off still got exactly 0 offers"
lobbes: phillipsjk: Need a day-job to keep hosting a Bitcoin node though << try out lowendbox.com. I'm planning on following the advice given here and start a node running some version of debian
lobbes: phillipsjk: should only be a few bucks a month
PeterL: mircea_popescu: what happens with your 25% offer if they never stick megablocks into bitcoin-core code?
danielpbarron: the people with all the bitcoin are the bad ones because money is evil, and the people with no bitcoin are going to tell them what the rules should be
mircea_popescu: PeterL it'll have to be discussed, obv. whoever wants to trade gets to work with me on a ocntract that covers all legitimate concerns.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron "because you are in the minority" derp.
mircea_popescu: but yes, that is pretty much exactly what your average libertard thinks politics is : "people with no money telling the people with money how they may proceed"
mircea_popescu: exactly fucking opposite of sanity.
danielpbarron: and somehow one of them manages to keep 500 BTC this whole time; someone who thought his funds were gone because his blockchain needed rensynching
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's funny just how self-contradictory the guy is, and how carefully crafted his pile, and how incredibly unstable in spite of all that effort. reading his lengthy posts is sort-of like admiring someone who managed to build a half mile tall chair pile in his quest to get to the moon on chairs.
mircea_popescu: if you as much as sneeze it all comes crumbling down, and yet he's stupidly put all that effort into it... like a blind seal or something.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30650 @ 0.00051835 = 15.8874 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: but who knows, right ? it's "not decided yet". he's not come here to have his construction taken apart ; the fork's not actually been destroyed in the field, and "we don't know for sure it's a scam" etc.
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : some guy named zyklon_b joins some chatroom, buncha derps throw a fit, i tell em to stfu, which results in private messaging and ragequits :
mircea_popescu: <gurlwest> its possible but there is such a thing as responsibility, and i feel its mine to point out that Zyklon B is highly offensive and brings this place into disrepute
mircea_popescu: <MirceaPopescu> and i feel it's mine to point out to you that you're the [unthinking] representative of everything that's wrong with the world generally, and United Stupid particularly.
mircea_popescu: * gurlwest has quit (Connection reset by peer)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11210 @ 0.0005168 = 5.7933 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://nypost.com/2015/01/24/white-house-going-nuclear-on-netanyahu/
assbot: White House going nuclear on Netanyahu | New York Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1yWATAS )
nubbins`: lel x5, one of woodcollector's alts "doxxed" me
nubbins`: sends me this serious PM with some google streetview of my neighbourhood and my name+address
nubbins`: couple pix from my fb
mircea_popescu: o hey, are you going off nubbins` to your pw:rn nao ?
nubbins`: wat
asciilifeform: lol, 'doxing'
mircea_popescu: ;;google pw:rn
gribble: Bounty Hunter Cards - Dark Age: <http://www.dark-age.com/Downloads/Cards/BountyHunter2.0.pdf>; Followers of the Heretic Cards - Dark Age: <http://dark-age.com/Downloads/Cards/HereticCards2015.pdf>; Kukulkani Cards - Dark Age: <http://www.dark-age.com/Downloads/Cards/KukulkaniCards2.0.pdf>
mircea_popescu: wow.
nubbins`: rn=real name?
mircea_popescu: yeh
mircea_popescu: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Powerword
assbot: Powerword - Encyclopedia Dramatica ... ( http://bit.ly/1wylJMi )
asciilifeform: !s true names
assbot: 17 results for 'true names' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=true+names
mircea_popescu: dude ed went to shit.
nubbins`: o i get it
nubbins`: well anyway.
nubbins`: my home address was already public on the forum
nubbins`: and he got the phone number wrong ;/
mircea_popescu: so he could work for yellowpages
nubbins`: and he says "maybe i'll see you at <event i'm attending on facebook> tomorrow at 8pm... i'm only 80km away"
mircea_popescu: wear a gopro.
davout: nubbins`: you better call the bitcoin police
mircea_popescu: davout if memory serves nubbins` is this tall bear-y sorta guy
asciilifeform: nubbins`: prepare for laser duel.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ahahaha that took a minute
nubbins`: heh
davout: asciilifeform: i just got it
mircea_popescu: hey nubbins` did you handcarve the turkey last thskgiving ?
mircea_popescu: OR DID YOU USE A LASER
nubbins`: hilariously, you are literally either in the ocean or a vast, uninhabited wilderness reserve if you are 80km from me
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i silkscreened cranberry sauce onto thin slices of it
mircea_popescu: the advantage of silk sheets is you can silkscreen tits and stuff with your bare hands.
mircea_popescu: !up badon
nubbins`: with the proper mesh count anything is possible
mircea_popescu: mush cunt! http://40.media.tumblr.com/038c7d1f7c9119ebe84a543b0af5b4b2/tumblr_mqkjtd3Trz1qcr2gxo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1wym01V )
badon: hi mircea_popescu