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pete_dushenski off for beer time.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476725 << jp occupies what one might call the opposite magnetic pole from mali or whoever is bottom of the orc pile.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 23:09 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476485 << ahahaah hater. listen, just because japan is better than russia doesn't mean you hafta get sore. japan's always been better than russia :D
asciilifeform: jp - folks bred for politeness.
asciilifeform: sorta showcases the extreme of the 'tallest building you can build' from mircea_popescu's 'prophete' article.
asciilifeform: in jp, pretty much everybody with white face, is LITERALLY nigger.
asciilifeform: in all of the various senses. is my current understanding.
asciilifeform at one point was pathologically well informed on jp secondhand, but is emphatically NOT a veteran thereof nor set foot there, and will not comment further
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476739 << the aes key used by everybody here when they gpg is precisely 32 bytes long. (not that this is something to be proud of.)☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 23:19 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476590 << consider another point here. on the basis of v neuman's quote with the state of sin, what can be said of a purported "cryptography mechanism" which can be stored as a 32 byte value ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476745 << locklin entertained me (he had articles on 'q' programming lang, apl, etc. that were not wholly uninteresting.)☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 23:25 mircea_popescu: leaving it as an exercise for any attendant alfs to explain difference between locklin and baruth. $indistinguishable_flavours_of_stupid_old_man
asciilifeform: i still have nfi who baruth is/was.
asciilifeform: aside from the claptrap he left on pete's site.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476746 << i prolly oughta plant down a second, rubbish wordpress, for the rubbish.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 23:28 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476680 << wordpress auto-indices!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476751 << fella doesn't seem to presently ~have~, yet, an ideology, beyond a quite accurate picture of 'the west is phucked'☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 23:43 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell spandrell amusingly, you fall in a very orwell-like vat (as per http://trilema.com/2015/in-which-orwell-avoids-what-he-does-not-wish-to-see/ ). really what you describe is the behaviour ~of idiots~ and them only. actual people do have ideology-activity connections going.
asciilifeform: any more than sailor clinging to broken plank of wrecked ship, has ideology.
asciilifeform: (ideology thereby)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh get out, i recall empire of japan owning teh czar pretty hardcore.
asciilifeform: sure did!
mircea_popescu: that was such a lulzy battle too. what was it called ?
asciilifeform: was good preview of what alt-historical non-bolshevik ru would have been raped like.
mircea_popescu: the "largest naval encounter" at the time
asciilifeform: port artur ?
mircea_popescu: i think so
mircea_popescu: technically, i expect it'd have gone the way of turkey.
asciilifeform: aha.
mircea_popescu: would be today ~polish commonwealth + stans
asciilifeform: but likely with more territorial carve.
asciilifeform: certainly not 1/6 of dry land mass.
mircea_popescu: fortunately for everyone involved, czar was infinitely more inept than sultan
mircea_popescu: weird what ends up being saving grace.
asciilifeform: folks with 'life force' in'em - eat those without. newz at 11?
mircea_popescu: yes, but the part where it is better to have shitty czar than strong sultan if you have no life force left is rarely comprehended.
asciilifeform: it goes under the heading of 'ancient art of knowing when to eat naga'
asciilifeform: nagan
mircea_popescu: eating nagas... now that'd be a show.
asciilifeform: sure would !
asciilifeform pictures something liek hybrid of sword swallower and snake charmer
shinohai: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/start.jpeg <<< lolz
mircea_popescu: these schmucks seriously go around pretending some book published in the 1930s is "under copyright" ?
mircea_popescu: for the love of fuck.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: waiwut
asciilifeform: who
mircea_popescu: $google "all men are brothers" pearl s buck "full text"
deedbot: http://www.academypublication.com/ojs/index.php/tpls/article/download/tpls0503581589/139 << Download this PDF file | http://ijbssnet.com/journals/Vol_4_No_13_October_2013/6.pdf << Cultural Factors in Literary Translation: Foreignization and ... | http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download;jsessionid=FC6BABFB01EB5E0597A4C56D130E70EF?doi=10.1.1.673.7336&rep=rep1&type=pdf << Download as a PDF
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: so fucking useless, this "google search" thing...
mircea_popescu: anyway, whatever. derpy books.
asciilifeform: interestingly, no ready ru either
asciilifeform: though i suspect that i know why
asciilifeform: ('all men are brothers' appears to be straight translation of the cn thing into eng)
asciilifeform: shinohai: any context for that ?
mircea_popescu: btw asciilifeform ever seen http://trilema.com/2011/biroul/ ?
asciilifeform: yes! mircea_popescu linked it quite recently
mircea_popescu: oh i did ? sorry.
mircea_popescu: i'm rather infatuated with it currently.
asciilifeform: gonna try in other langs?
mircea_popescu: i don't think that one's possible in any other lang.
asciilifeform: try ru
mircea_popescu: no but see it is direct learned reference, all through, to famous poem. "o bizant, bizant ferice"
mircea_popescu: ru doesn't have cartarescu cycles in it.
asciilifeform: tru.
asciilifeform: this'd be like attempting riff on pushkin in engl.
mircea_popescu: that's the problem with high culture. you can't REALLY translate huxley say in french. what translate ?
asciilifeform: extreme sport aficionados only.
mircea_popescu: exactly!
asciilifeform: sorta why i largely gave up on anglicizing ru fare. it ends up a hash, like that bugler thing
asciilifeform: can be moved to do it, if coming across some gaping and suctiony it-shaped hole
asciilifeform: but not otherwise.
shinohai: asciilifeform: coin attempting to seekritly auto dump coins on bittrex, I found it lulzy
asciilifeform: shinohai: coin?
asciilifeform: this was... what ? walletron ? why would it print 'dumping coins' to stdout ?
mircea_popescu: imo the bugler came out pretty good.
mircea_popescu: then again, that's me from this end of it.
shinohai: Startcoin ... some part of Butterin's waterfall
shinohai: Need coins? Ask teh scammers!
asciilifeform: possibly interesting: http://tinycorelinux.net
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-04#1476783 << don't forget that a "full" gpg fingerprint is a shitty 160 bit sha1sum, heh☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-04 01:47 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476739 << the aes key used by everybody here when they gpg is precisely 32 bytes long. (not that this is something to be proud of.)
asciilifeform: Framedragger: read the logz, gpg and compatibles are retarded in 101 ways
Framedragger: but folks here still use gpg fingerprints, which is funny
Framedragger: but sure.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: used on account of 0 alternatives solely.
Framedragger: your phuctor uses a different hashing scheme. but i suppose wide deployment would be hard and also ultimately futile, given that i assume folks here haven't planned a bright future for gpg
asciilifeform: gpg is 'healthiest horse at glue factory'
Framedragger: heh. yeah, k.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: phuctor's hash is quite inapplicable anywhere else, because it includes the entire key - names, emails, ~all~ subkeys.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ah, right; subkeys included. fair enough.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger for rsa yes ; for gpg ... mno.
mircea_popescu: ftr, the problem with the sha1sum isn't even that it's 160 bits ; worse fates could be devised.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that it doesn't include the important parts.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr, i have nfi what you're using, but most people here are using either aes256 or twofish, i would suspect. and if they do not - they should edit ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf and add personal-cipher-preferences AES256 TWOFISH right above the line that says personal-digest-preferences SHA512
mircea_popescu: aes256 is (supposedly) ~2^100 against related key attacks which'd be the better attack known.
mircea_popescu: (also not particularly useful in theory, but then again gpg is a pos.)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-04#1476869 << that's what i said: 32 bytes.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-04 14:44 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr, i have nfi what you're using, but most people here are using either aes256 or twofish, i would suspect. and if they do not - they should edit ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf and add personal-cipher-preferences AES256 TWOFISH right above the line that says personal-digest-preferences SHA512
mircea_popescu: a right you are :p
deedbot: [Trilema] Let's do Chinese together. - http://trilema.com/2016/lets-do-chinese-together/
deedbot: [Qntra] DoctorClu Gets 8 Years In Prison - http://qntra.net/2016/06/doctorclu-gets-8-years-in-prison/
mircea_popescu: hahaha so i don't fucking get it... they get to keep pretending that tor's not schweizer, and what's the derp get ?
mircea_popescu: google doesn't even register its name
BingoBoingo: for srs
mircea_popescu: someone gotta explain to us tards how commerce works.
mircea_popescu: "you want to keep pretending X ? fine, this means you get to pay through the nose. so your pretense you're a world power costs what, 5 trn a year in subsidies to everyone that can bust your skull open ? fine. this is what, 1/1000 as important, that'd mean you owe me ~5bn to plead out and let you be. how much of that you got in cash ? and by cash we mean bitcoin, of course."
asciilifeform: l0l! from what position this is to be said? from negotiating inside prison ?
asciilifeform: i can see it from dirigible, firing warning hbomb shots across potomac river. but from captive derp ?
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/0c1d836b-571c-4831-88b5-9ba375ee662f << you've got br04dc457!111111
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ty.
mircea_popescu: an' what's position to do with anything.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/3774c475-7c9f-448a-b8dc-5df5e83ba5bc/?raw=true
deedbot: [Trilema] No Such lAbs (S.NSA), May 2016 Statement - http://trilema.com/2016/no-such-labs-snsa-may-2016-statement/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: got it.
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476630 << done☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 22:06 pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: speaking of your twatskillz, mind dropping @jackbaruth my response to http://archive.is/iBQow ? >> http://www.contravex.com/2016/06/02/fellow-astronauts-sure-fellow-american-proles-hmm/
ben_vulpes: nifty asciilifeform
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 the openssl people hosed your stator script by moving their turdball without a redirect. can we plz stop linking to derps in trb autoloaders ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mod6: what stator script?
mod6: if you're talking about "http://deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-V99995.sh" -- then yes, it's on the list of things to resolve/fix. thanks for letting us know.
shinohai: wb mod6 didja have fun?
BingoBoingo: ;;tickr --market all
gribble: Error: "tickr" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 570.0, vol: 6696.80983886 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 562.49, vol: 6475.85915 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 571.54, vol: 44728.67004068 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 560.0, vol: 15.25213674 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 575.573683, vol: 52732.18070000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 571.109, vol: 2757.10789344 | Volume-weighted last average: 572.795851685
BingoBoingo: Oh, and now China's side of the spread won
ben_vulpes: neat little distro asciilifeform
mod6: shinohai: aye.
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 3971168913649098519 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Craig A. West <west1@purdue.edu>; Craig A. West <cawest1221@gmail.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DF60B763FBE9B2830F5999D0549DB8803DCEEA6F6DCA7D0828EEEC9804B619AC
BingoBoingo: Redditors make a serious career decision "Keep delivering pizzas or move over to Chinese food? (self.TalesFromThePizzaGuy)" https://archive.is/IXwLT
shinohai: ^ lawl
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-04#1476906 << new batch, + nonmirrored.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-04 21:14 deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 3971168913649098519 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Craig A. West <west1@purdue.edu>; Craig A. West <cawest1221@gmail.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DF60B763FBE9B2830F5999D0549DB8803DCEEA6F6DCA7D0828EEEC9804B619AC
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-04#1476894 << heh.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-04 18:44 asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 the openssl people hosed your stator script by moving their turdball without a redirect. can we plz stop linking to derps in trb autoloaders ?
mircea_popescu: hey asciilifeform you around ?