asciilifeform saw an almost 'argentine'-grade scene at trump fest. wanted to buy bottle of ice water. went into queue, of six people or so. then noticed that queue dun move ~at all. assumed, like idiot, 'hm must be out of water? waiting for truck with moar?' -- then got to end of queue, and jaw dropped. vendor chix was counting change ~on calculator~. bbut! calculator ~on ipnoje~, so therefore also attending, must have, to arsebook etc. ping

asciilifeform: perhaps asciilifeform oversaturates the colours, here, but i blame pete_d and his type for the fact that yes you can buy a diamond-encrusted ipnoje for 200k but you cannot buy a fits-in-head comp even for 200mil.

asciilifeform: seems as if the ipnoje thing did not pan out, and what remains of crapple, is attempting a return to 1990s

asciilifeform: the idjit orcs want 'ipnoje', and that's afaik it

asciilifeform: when you bought a e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-15#1896849 , got moar schematics than ~anyone knew what to do with , right in the box . but when buy ipnoje, what you really buy is... what? the privilege to pay crapple for next 1 in 6 mo... ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: ( incidentally not unlike the proverbial ipnoje , which not ~only~ has to cost 2k to +ev, but to be ~unrepairable and glass cracks if you look at it sideways )

asciilifeform: ipnoje per se is a '06+ item

asciilifeform: in the very last yrs, ratshack tried to live by offering ipnoje glass replacement. problem is , chinese d00dz in open air market do it 2x cheaper.

asciilifeform: recall that huawei was usg.fatwa'd for konsoomer pnoje also ( presumably logic is, 'ohnoez, even tards no longer want to buy ipnoje with 0 buttons and $2k price -- wat do? let's try banning all competition' )

asciilifeform: for all i know , somewhere in the reich there's still an old amish d00d remaining, plowing field with horse, eschewing ipnoje, etc. or maybe usg already found him and put into психушка and took land for unpaid tribute.

asciilifeform: aaand they take 'paypal' at the market. via ipnoje.

asciilifeform: stratum: y'know, the money argument dun hold water -- a new 'ipnoje' actually costs moar than ~several~ entirely usable pc ☟︎

asciilifeform: lol , 9000th ipnoje victim ?

asciilifeform: the site dunwork on ipnoje or wat was it

asciilifeform: the little was moar % faberge and less ipnoje tho

asciilifeform: surprisingly enuff, even displays correctly on various horrors, even ipnoje etc

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ipnoje cuts at 30-40 cols last i knew

asciilifeform: re structure -- they're rolling out ipnoje-style cars, that brick if they dun get keepalive from server

asciilifeform: they had a line of pocket calculators, this was ( and as i understand, remains ) their flagship product. but! they somehow managed to lose their upstream ic vendors (they dun make much with own hands any moar) and nao reduced to selling same calc with ~ipnoje+emulator internals, and multi-second boot(yes) times

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can only guess, the patients haven't bought that dinnerplate-sized ipnoje yet

asciilifeform: ( or ipnoje's infamous 'camera shutter sound' )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 1 hole, is that 'generation-fara' dun buy $4k lappy. they buy ipnoje.

asciilifeform: nowadays they've 'progressed', happily pay not merely per minute but monthly ~lease~ on ipnoje, to talk across a street (via packets, via london, etc)

asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu's 'tin woman' essay has the complete story re subj. while printing press prints, making comp for mircea_popescu 'aint big biznis', making ipnoje for lolcat and britney watchers -- is

asciilifeform: it's rather unfortunate, possibly, that the www gate even works on ipnoje

asciilifeform: logging in from ipnoje ~guarantees this

asciilifeform: #0 is analogous to e.g. crapple's master key for ipnoje.

asciilifeform: in re cr50 -- if anybody's puzzled re why they put this level of effort into locking down what is essentially a less-popular, bulkier ipnoje -- it's a beta test for bleeding edge of their pc fritz ( the latter, reportedly already in service in google-built serverz in datacentres ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't expect that the google monkeys with access to the key, will willingly spill it ( tho this cannot be ruled out. ) idea was, possibly to get the same folks who currently sweat over ipnoje etc , interested.

asciilifeform: speaking here of the 6th ipnoje.

asciilifeform: ipnoje? they have a split screen thing.

asciilifeform: it's a pretty spiffy, ironwise, comp. costs less than a third of what ipnoje costs, even.

asciilifeform: there exists for instance the ipnoje, which famously chokes on some particular hindu glyph.

asciilifeform: even box circa 2010, will NOT 'sync' with current-day ipnoje, for instance. For Reasons.

asciilifeform: iirc not even lcd in recent ipnoje, in any meaningful sense replaceable

asciilifeform: the ones currently sold are ~= ipnoje-running-emulator, internally ( 32bit 'arm' with 100s of MB of ram -- and doesn't add up to the original's 1980s 68k cpu )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dunthink there is a 1980s identd app for ipnoje.

asciilifeform still doesn't get why one would program ~on~ ipnoje

asciilifeform: i have nfi whether the ipnoje thing , actually worx, or to what extent.

asciilifeform: ipnoje etc. will (by default, there's a toggle) emit'em.

asciilifeform: and certainly the 'and give each an ipnoje so he'll shuddup' ain't either.

asciilifeform: ( replaced with.... ipnoje )

asciilifeform: e.g., trump, with his 'encrypted chat' on ipnoje that leaks every fart

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty sure ipnoje ships with these

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there's an ipnoje version etc.

asciilifeform: lel, ipnoje uses 'tinyscheme' internally.

asciilifeform: in my observations there are roughly 2 factions of technocrapolade -- 'microshit': crashes, 'meat-like' malfunctions, shit soup of 'why does this exist', shithubs full of gender-fix-commits, etc; and 'crapple' -- ipnoje that worx 100% of the time you push the button, while slowly recording; amazon's widgets; google's spamless mail; and similarly appealing, sweet and carcinogenic nintendos

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu conflates, e.g., nodejs, prb -- vs alexa, ipnoje -- at his peril imho.

asciilifeform pictures the peter thiel call: t. cook's phone rings. thiel: 'ipnoje is not surveillatronic enough. hitler is displeased. the lien on your left ball will be called in.' cook: 'what do we do' thiel: 'well, you could make'em wear earphones with cameras' cook: 'brilliant, 360 degree coverage' thiel: 'it'd better be out by september'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ipnoje is a thick aluminum can.

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you missed the ipnoje-is-a-knife thread from a few days ago, didntcha.

asciilifeform: modern-day train is full of folks playing doom XXXXXII or wat, on ipnoje

asciilifeform: and speaking of defective american tech, i have here an ipnoje that is about to... frag

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes makes women program ipNoje ?