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phf: aah, yes, i remember. i had some rudimentary support for that worked on, but never got to cleaning it up (mostly requires reading through colorize's code, to figure out how to hook into their tokenizer)
asciilifeform: 3) -l1 turns on line numbering; -I adds paths to the libraryisms ; -p takes a file containing src_dir=. gpr_file=ffa_calc.gpr .
asciilifeform: that's all.
asciilifeform: phf: if it were simply 'colorizer' i wouldn't bother.
asciilifeform: i can live without colorized src. but really readers oughta be able to click on a token and see where it is defined.
asciilifeform: ( ideally also ~where used~, but gnathtml does not give this . )
phf: well, no, colorize, when it does its colorizing, has to know a bit about identifiers and tokens and such. so hooking in this case involves getting some information from colorize that says "i got an identifier FOO, give me back a link to where it should link"
asciilifeform: right
asciilifeform: i think phf grasps what i was talking about.
phf: simplest form of "link to where" can be essentially a grep through all the files (which i think is how lxr used to do it)
phf: since that will show you both where defined and where used. a bit less "smart" than gnathtml, but possibly more useful
asciilifeform: phf: the default view ( http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch11/ ) of gnathtml gives you a frames thing with ~worthless alphabetic index in the left pane. really it oughta show 'where currently clicked symbol used' imho
asciilifeform: phf: it's definitely not perfect, e.g. why the FUCK is FFA_FZ_ZeroP not clickable ?
asciilifeform: but beats the shit out of hand-grep imho.
asciilifeform: ( it's not ~completely~ fucktarded, all of ffa is still reachable via http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch11/ffa__ads.htm . but still frustrating )
asciilifeform: hover text ( and not of .ads, but of actual definition ) would be nice too.
asciilifeform: ultimately also would want individual tokens to be linkable, a la lxr .
asciilifeform: ( right nao i cannot link to, e.g., FZ_Add , only to line # offsets into .adb/.ads )
BingoBoingo: And in other not surprises, the blue wave meme is dying.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what was this
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The mid term election fantasy where Trump loses both houses of the legislature.
asciilifeform: aaa
BingoBoingo: I managed to wrassle US cable news onto the wall
BingoBoingo: Notably the blue party is under performing in Miami
asciilifeform can't muster excitement for the coke-vs-pepsi tourney
BingoBoingo: Never went down to the Pony track?
asciilifeform: can't say i have
asciilifeform: played shitoshidice 1ce tho!
BingoBoingo had to kil the fox news stream, they overcorrected avoiding haetspeak
mircea_popescu: this is actually a pretty good spec for a... well basically a "compiler for web" as opposed to "compiler for machine"
mircea_popescu: "take code make it readable". incomprehensible to me why is not a clearly delineated function of code processors. obviously shouild be, much in the vein of yest "fix your terminal" discussions
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-06#1869977 -> oh hey, that looks very useful indeed, thanks! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-06 23:57 asciilifeform: btw in case other folx ( diana_coman ? ) want to make these for ~their~ proggies, process is pretty simple :
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's esp. egregious imho that gcc dun do this, it has the AST internally, could disgorge. ( gnat fixes some of this 'dun disgorge', it puts some raw structure in the .ali intermediate crapola for 'gnathtml' etc to read )
asciilifeform: ( recall the ancient trb flow chart thread )
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/11/usms-lists-approximately-660-bitcoins-for-sale/ << Qntra - USMS Lists "Approximately" 660 Bitcoins For Sale
mircea_popescu: diana_coman http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Phfs3/?raw=true
asciilifeform: in other notes from last wk's dig, turns out that ice40 contains onboard otp rom , enuff to store whole config ( somehow i read the docs '9000' times prev. and missed this ).
mircea_popescu: o.O
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/AVRMP/?raw=true << from horse's mouth
asciilifeform: ( the promisetronics with 'difficult to read with microscope, believe!11' thing is, as i gather, for the various folx in the biz of loading $circuit into fpga and selling 'as asic' , it isn't of great interest to asciilifeform in particular )
mircea_popescu: this is actually pretty cool.
asciilifeform: potentially saves a coupla bux on board cost, at the very least.
asciilifeform: ( e.g. classic FG , is only 'upgradeable' because xilinx doesn't offer an otp chip )
asciilifeform: i have nfi if ice's thing boosts longevity, chances are their 'OTP' is implemented the same way as errybody else's, nowadays, simply a nonwindowed EPROM.
asciilifeform: the 'can't read with optics' does suggest possibility of actual otp tho.
asciilifeform: currently i have no approach to determining experimentally, which it is.
mircea_popescu: hm.
mircea_popescu: you know, even non-"windowed" eeproms will cook in high uv cookers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: errything cooks if you heat it enuff, lol
asciilifeform: q is whether can 'restore virginity' and load in new config; and whether this is actually easier than simply soldering on a fresh one
asciilifeform: (or simply switcheroo for fresh board in the mail etc)
mircea_popescu: myeah.
asciilifeform: most 'eprom attack' focuses on angle of 'read back the seekrit config', sumthing that doesn't really affect device where config is published already
mircea_popescu: this is true.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/11/dutch-seize-encrypted-messaging-service-and-make-some-arrests-while-advertising-their-hope-to-make-many-more-arrests/ << Qntra - Dutch Seize "Encrypted" Messaging Service And Make Some Arrests While Advertising Their Hope To Make Many More Arrests
mircea_popescu: wtf are these "servers" doing anyway ?
mircea_popescu: either it's encrypted or it's servered.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: near as i can tell, the usual skypeism
asciilifeform: hushmailism.
asciilifeform: promisecryption.
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine who the fuck would be using the crap ☟︎
asciilifeform: idjits ?
mircea_popescu: and no, i don't mean "who among the silk road retards", that part is clear.
BingoBoingo: People who eat endorsements
mircea_popescu: keks, so basically the dutch are gonna arrest a whole lotta politicians and other momstate items, and they're advertising this so as to avoid embarassment of bitchslapfest ?
BingoBoingo: The Urban enhancers and the back country meth lab crews
BingoBoingo: Sounds like it
mircea_popescu: come to think of it ... makes sernse.
BingoBoingo: Also maybe they have a lot of undercover folk and CIs in renvenue generating positions (DEA style) they don't want off'd
mircea_popescu: in other similar news, i tell you nothing's quite like nursing a hangover with teh online world. bought 16 bottles of fine bordeaux yest, partied with naked girls, to the degree of fucking the same one in the ass twice in the same evening (anal queen this chick jayssu) and so on.
mircea_popescu: i'm biologically exhausted and i'm advertising this fact to avoid pantsuit politician #metoos from falling over themselves.
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: hm... in retrospect, this logic doesn't work any better when i apply it than when dutch police does.
asciilifeform: consider sleep
mircea_popescu: i already slept!
asciilifeform: but didja sleep 16 bottles' worth
mircea_popescu: i sleep quicker than other people, see. what they take eight-nine hours i can accomplish in like almost four.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i didn't drink it all myself!
asciilifeform also tends to 4-5. but that's with 0 bottles
asciilifeform: lolk
BingoBoingo: Ah, one of those hangovers where it takes the second or third sleeps to take it off
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo not even properly speaking hung over. not like my head hurts or anything.
mircea_popescu: fine wine is up there with ro tuica re post-party effects. it's pretty much all mellow no pain.
asciilifeform: tuica is a++ smooth, asciilifeform attests
asciilifeform: ( ~nonexistent, interestingly, in gringolandia )
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the other mini-lulz farms : "LordMPofTMSR Not even kidding. brooccofull You do know I can't read the end of that sentence right ? LordMPofTMSR
mircea_popescu: Hey, life sorts you lot into cans and can'ts. brooccofull I mean the text cute halfway. So I don't even know what that sentence is"
mircea_popescu: it's ever fascinating, how DEEPLY and ~UNTOUCHABLY!!!~ implanted in twentysomething skulls this notion is that they "must have a fair opportunity" according to ~their~ definition of fairness.
asciilifeform: lol didja rot13 the 2nd half or wat was it
mircea_popescu: fucking state schools.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares you couldn't read the exam questions because they were written in japanese with invisible ink ? YOU STILL FAILED! FOR HAVING FAILED! JESUS.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they literally do not understand that their phone cutting random shit off webpages to fit it IS A BUG OF THEIR PHONE.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how to convey this, it is still blowing my own mind.
asciilifeform: recall the ancient usenet lul: went something like 'exam. in 8 minutes a hungry tiger will be admitted to exam room. you will find the 11 parts of the rifle under your desk. any questions'
mircea_popescu: actually... let's put it this way : their terminal cuts at 80cols, right ? and they think "this code does not compile" is an ok reaction to this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ipnoje cuts at 30-40 cols last i knew
BingoBoingo: lol
asciilifeform: not even fully deterministic
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform whatever it is, but the fact their "tool" cuts most of the world out is, according to them, a legitimate complaint to bring UPON THE WORLD.
asciilifeform: i dunget it tho, it's got the finger screen neh
mircea_popescu: I KNOW!!!
asciilifeform: what, their fingers only move up/down ??
mircea_popescu: i have nfi.
mircea_popescu: hey, it's a tv emulator for a reason right.
mircea_popescu: maybe finger only moves from ass to mouth andf back, what do i know.
asciilifeform: sumhow i dun have this problem on ~my~ lolpad, landau & lifschitz scroll great in both dirs
mircea_popescu: me either, nfi.
mircea_popescu: but imo a fine illustration of the degree, structure, magnitude and physiology of "broken" in the "citizen of free world & open society" aka "useless fucktard headed for redditbagging".
asciilifeform: i'm almost curious what it's actually like to meet these 'people'. in a room. even without 16 bottles.
asciilifeform: must be troo riot.
mircea_popescu: these dumb cunts show up to job interviews, you realise ? expect "respect" and shit ? wanna fucking vote, have oppinions about the world around trhem, what have you
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i generally don't meet THESE (because "they chose not to", of course).
asciilifeform: makes sense
mircea_popescu: amusingly homeostatic, this world we live in.
asciilifeform: you'd have to get'em into a raccoon trap or sumthing
mircea_popescu: (they also use phones "because they choose to", you know.)
asciilifeform: gotta have the pnoje, neh. how else to view lolcat 5 times daily, like praying to mecca
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-07#1870044 << that being said, afaik there simply does not exist a non-tard product in that niche ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-07 18:08 mircea_popescu: i can't imagine who the fuck would be using the crap
asciilifeform: ( possibly on acct of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867907 effect , i've nfi ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 15:54 asciilifeform: the problem faced by even fella with a first-class head, when buying 'crypto iron', is a 9000x hypertrophied instance of the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-30#1867790 boojum -- to know what he's getting, he is stuck with much ~harder~ problem than even original maker had in making the artifact to begin with !
asciilifeform: tbh i have nfi who still relies on voice pnoje for sensitive-anyffing, aside from usgtards
asciilifeform: it's a screaming anachronism, imho
asciilifeform: it aint even as if sending text over a wire were new! fucking 1850s tech!
asciilifeform: why yakyak into microphone if ya dun have to ? so that room bug can hear ?
mircea_popescu: obviously mobility solution.
asciilifeform: even the 'must talk from toilet' folx send 'text' nao, i thought
asciilifeform: i suppose in the field, under fire, folx still talk into boxes
asciilifeform: ( ~those~ imho pretty 'killer app' for paired-otp... )
asciilifeform bbl,meat