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mircea_popescu: i make a lot of noise about dungeons and chains and whips and etc ; but it is a kind of a society game. i am not prepared, neither mentally nor for that matter materially, to ~actually~ apply all that. because yes, the convertor exists, kidnap among the moronic 3bn, but i mean literally, not play-pretendingly, self-delivered "kidnaps", and then torture them into being enslaved orcs rather than plain orcs.
mircea_popescu: Mocky somewhat not surprised. orcs generally take such positions
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> but jokes on me, nobody got ruffled feathers because they weren't advocating daos, just raising awareness! starting the conversation! they agreed with me! << It's what orcs do. How much hashish do you estimate the other attendees ate prior to showing up?
BingoBoingo: Right, because why when the local orcs themselves are the softest targets
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: fwiw asciilifeform walked all around the town, at ~all hrs, not only not stabbed but not even insulted, by orcs
Mocky: I didn't have any more experience talking to orcs than chatting up chicks or writing c++, or rebuilding my bike engine back in the day, or fixing a million and one things for the first time. I don't know shit about shit. I never did
mircea_popescu: and this, because Mocky had decades talking to orcs that alf didn't get ?
BingoBoingo: If the censorship resistance piece survives peer review, Imma test it on some orcs and start using it as my explainer to heathens for why the fuck I am in this hell hole
mircea_popescu: this is the argument against "indepenent owners" among the orcs, too, and in general -- they'll do insane things like keep property 10% occupied for $pricepoint, and ignore that $pricepoint * .1 comes to less net than $half-pricepoint * .6
asciilifeform: they mostly deal with ~broke orcs, neh. who walk in and 'i want 'buy' house, but i have no money'
asciilifeform: re 'rolex' etc -- i've only ever seen'em on (usually) arab orcs ~in usa~ . they dun actually look at the time, lol, i suspect they dun even set the thing, it's strictly part of 'gentleman's uniform', by their lights, like sword used to be
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-20#1864509 << this is a dubious proposition, seeing how you don't have the cultural finesse to resolve disputes between orcs. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-22#1864635 >> 'Romanian museum keepers are, with very, very, very few exceptions, a bunch of fucking orcs' >> verily. asciilifeform was in timis art gallery, and they offered tickets for extra penny 'take pictures', i gave'em. then i pull out camera, buncha old biddies immediately appear out of nowhere, like swarm of rats, stand in front of my lens like matrosov in front of german mg nest. finally i pul ☝︎
Mocky: hey, maybe if i actually was suave then could come up with how to explain the future to orcs, but i'll get more chances to try tomorrow in any case
mircea_popescu: "i'm a guy who knows a lot of shit you orcs don't."
mircea_popescu: orcs have nfi how any man tools work, do they ?!
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu were to park his merc in johannesburg, orcs might steal the tyres, but not the cunt (can only borrow..)
mircea_popescu: here, 0 infrastructure, but orcs morons.
asciilifeform: rright but it's a pantsuit production, this thing. i had nfi that they had 'lite' variant for orcs
mircea_popescu: nah, whole fuckling point is that cab services work well in orclands, and the orcs pay tax already.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> upstack, i suspect mircea_popescu has the answ to the riddle of why bitcoin hasn't killed wu et al -- orcs still perceive having the option not to use btc << They have the option, ~for now~. We know, that the whole world currently runs on "magic money", currently. However, my hunch is that "magic money" and worlds built on fraud can not live for forever. They can last a long time, however
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had an old piece where mentioned orcs all over saving in usd, hanging on to erry benjie like it were a shard of the trooo cross. ~that~ is 1 of the elephants on which usg stands.
asciilifeform: idjit orcs would rather die, apparently, than risk exch rate swing
asciilifeform: upstack, i suspect mircea_popescu has the answ to the riddle of why bitcoin hasn't killed wu et al -- orcs still perceive having the option not to use btc
asciilifeform: the hilarity is that the 'terrorists' ( goat-flavoured orcs ) have 0 prob with the idjicy, they have their hawala
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo they have a point, only sane way to look at the orcs is as what they are -- a primitive culture.
asciilifeform: orcs are doomed to 'discover' simple techs again & again, 4evah
asciilifeform: here is also where i must note that , while i'd like moar / moar-dispersed trb nodez, my time budget for trying to talk sense into remote orcs is quite limited atm
BingoBoingo: Well, still apparently has quite a few of the orcs lit up. Still, something to go amongst the people and talk about.
mircea_popescu: well, a) shuffler is never live (mostly, because the legal trappings around it require the shuffling be redone in some circumstances -- such as malfunction.) with b) orcs can't sync a gfx.
BingoBoingo: Rather than using the cell network services orcs tend to funnel much of their contacting through "Whatsapp" so hygeine accordingly
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855832 << translating the scripture has the significant disadvantage that all sorts of morons "get to thinking" about "how it should be", down the line you end up with anglicanism, protestantisms, etc. the fact that scripture is written in human language is not "impediment put in way of orcs". ☝︎
asciilifeform: this was my impression as of this morning. and was also my impression that BingoBoingo went and danced the asked-for dance with the orcs, and thereafter eggog is to vanish. but turns out -- not.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol i have a bunch of photos just like that of timis orcs
asciilifeform: correct. ( tho in addition to 'orcs steal', we add 'poseidon steals' )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu; currently orcs steal 300 $ of hdd, rather than $10k of hdd + $20k of torpedo..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if i lost your cargo would you cry more than if the orcs steal it like they apparently well might've ?
asciilifeform: loox like mircea_popescu's old observation 'they wanna tax, not prohibit commerce' was optimistic tho. the orcs ~want~ to die
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: do me a favour and cut out my orig postage addr before handing these to orcs
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect that lulazon simply pockets that 62.18, and the orcs never see it; or alternatively, an orc pockets, off-record, and then pretends 'was 1 of 2 max free imports'
asciilifeform: !Q later tell BingoBoingo crate has sat in montevideo customs for third day nao, and still no word from either dhl or orcs. possibly go there an' see ?
mircea_popescu: the orcs still do, everywhere.
mircea_popescu: "Meeya Meefla", the only city to have preserved its name from the pre-atomic era: evidently Miami, Florida << aaahahaha! this is carrying on. where do all the orcs wanna go ? to meeya meefla, the city of moafle.
mircea_popescu: kinda how us army was disbanded, to be replaced by the us "core of training". "teaching" the orcs is almost not insulting to the idiots' notions of self-importance.
mircea_popescu: they should never have told orcs about 1 way streets. they're not ready for the magic yet.
asciilifeform: 0 orcs in csl.
mircea_popescu: so it's not the guy who "invented" orcs ?
mircea_popescu: i rather doubt there's those folks with 20 mil, at least at the level here discussed. a dime bag costs ~same here as in florida. actually, maybe slightly more expensiuve here. same as with hdds or w/e else, idiocy tax, everything costs the orcs more.
asciilifeform: 'how dare uppity orcs build reactors'
mircea_popescu: lotta this "law enforcement, you mean kidnap uppity orcs" byzantine practice.
mircea_popescu: the post-clinton america, intellectually as well as factually, is only useful to orcs&niggers anymore ; and pointedly not any longer useful to people.
mod6: these orcs straight up ripped off s.nsa
asciilifeform pictures herd of orcs in 1990s 'adidas' cloth
asciilifeform: this dynamic is often seen in the blather of orcs, esp. on ru side , masturbating over 'american salaries', conveniently glossing over american rents etc
asciilifeform: dunno, last d00d who managed to make orcs perform to human spec, was peter. apparently they happen erry 300y or so.
mircea_popescu: word. if i were maduro there'd be co-ed open outcry. but... they're new, and besides orcs, whadda ya want.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 16:14 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828477 << ack, ty for letting me know. I'll try sshing in tonight to rule out webserver failure before I flag down BB to check out the situation manually. (I must say, it is a good feeling knowing that nowhere in this troubleshooting cycle will I need to interface with orcs.)
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828477 << ack, ty for letting me know. I'll try sshing in tonight to rule out webserver failure before I flag down BB to check out the situation manually. (I must say, it is a good feeling knowing that nowhere in this troubleshooting cycle will I need to interface with orcs.) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: because yes, the exact sort of objection (we're only counting the cogent ones, washed out of 10bn words of idiocy outside the gates) brought against emacs can (and was) brought against desk by orcs. "o, by the time you're done moving it around the meadow the boar long left" "what boar ?" "the one you were going to shoot inkwell at, silly." "oh i c"
mircea_popescu: kinda how present day ustards get all sorts of orcs hot and bothered.
asciilifeform: for all the 'wave of conquest' of germany, the germans themselves made very questionable mongols. observe that they ended up outsourcing good chunk of the wetwork to local orcs ( city-boi ss grunts went 'shell shocked' from executions ), derped around with gasenwagens 'to make cleaner' etc
mircea_popescu: you know, contrary to your interpretation, i'm persuaded it was mostly actual orcs.
mircea_popescu: but in other lulz : these little orcs here, they fucking love soccer. love it. and it's the world cup, and their group is... serbia. and brazil.
mircea_popescu: nah, the problem is that it consists of amstan orcs by mass. they're so enamoured with what the mud-toed grandmother back in rural orcistan thinks about "grandson works at google", they'll defect after the anal rape, maybe.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, re gtk+ 3, observe that the dumbass orcs in the comment section are all about "i don't see why you wouldn't '''upgrade''' your desktop to browserhood"
asciilifeform: specifically against uppity orcs
lobbes: In other "the logs had it first", I just investigated a barf I received on an emerge and exclaimed "who are these orcs@gentoo.org that are masking gcc < 5.4??". I must've missed this thread entirely >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-30#1761183 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: some of the things that don't work don't work because no you/joe, and some don't work because IN SPITE of you-joe there werealso some orcs involved.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, if you think the robots are maintained by orcs...
mircea_popescu: the trashing the orclands get at our hands every fucking time we deign to rape them is not enough model of how this'd go ? joe from two states down will just send you some free molybdenum because fuck those orcs, and besides, you gave him a painting last year
asciilifeform: joe from two states down can't agree on the price. and we both get encircled and hang. or he's using his moly to make kitchen knives to sell to orcs , it's +ev for him, he thinks. or, other possible variants.
asciilifeform: incidentally, 'tiny but clever population standing up to maxint orcs by way of robot and deathray' is ~the~ american geofantasy; isn't working out so well for them
mircea_popescu: exactly like "what does dolalr buy today" ? "well, if you disperse it enough, it buys you some inept wrangling from local orcs". exctly like how $1mn does not buy you much ; but if you break it into $20 chunks you can have "marketing online" "services" from retarded university-of-maryland-criminlogy whores,
asciilifeform: reich can continue to soldier on ~indefinitely for so long as it can afford to maintain a miami for idiot orcs to salivate for. this could prove to be a very long time.
mircea_popescu: classical london, the model the us briefly seemed to manage immitating, was the place where all sorts of orcs (such as you know, lenin) went into "exile", because unlike their originating goatfuckistan, london did not give a shit about "politics" and "ideologies". because it had a better one.
mircea_popescu: i suppose as far as the orcs are concerned, it's mostly a boneh-or-boeck distinction.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Package in enduring the local rite of passage know as waiting in line. By all appearances DHL dorcs and Aduanas orcs should work it out before too long.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, perhaps should organize a carrying of various spare odds and ends such as a dc must have on hand but the orcs do not : assorted cables, spare hdds / cards etc.
mircea_popescu: there's ~some~ diversity even among orcs.
mircea_popescu: "orcs" is a pet name for about five billion people.
mod6: Yah, and possibly fg. I know there is a sentiment that orcs are not interested in fg -- however, there are people I've talked to who are pretty interested in that. Don't have coins to buy one, however, still, interest is there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm still waiting to run across the kundera, solzhenitsyn, or the like, whose work shows any symptoms of grasping that 1) 'free world' was a cheap scam 2) switching moscow whip for washington whip won't improve anything 3) the uppity orcs will lose whatever sovereignty, industrial civ level, etc. they have under sov colonization, when (2) happens , and remain sad and dependent
a111: Logged on 2018-05-10 15:55 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, incidentally, notice how fsf is 100% ~latino orcs by mass now ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, incidentally, notice how fsf is 100% ~latino orcs by mass now ?
mircea_popescu: this isn't some kind of argument in the line of "russki orcs" ; in point of fact tanks led strategies were invented by russians ; but copied and employed at first by zee germans.
mircea_popescu: see, it's like an orc protection amulet, this. 1920 technology, what stalin sought to copy, is what orcs most fear.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, remember that time we needed like 100kgs worth of sheet metal profiles, ended up having to fly them over with white man's airship because local orcs can't bend metal along predetermined lines ?
asciilifeform: 'oh noez somebody might buy not from the local orcs'
mircea_popescu: local fermented beverages, how the fuck do i know what orcs trade.
mircea_popescu: moreover alf has a solid point. you have 0 interest in dealing with local orcs. there's a reason chinese soy farm in africa dun sell soy to africans.
asciilifeform: those -- look enuff like 'bag for sale to orcs in the sunday market' to trigger the light show.
asciilifeform: from the fate of dulap-I and -II i can dare to hypothesize that they use moar cheapo local orcs who dream of miami, than 'strike team' with proverbial stainless steel staples in passport . but beyond this, nfi
asciilifeform: it was pretty strange, 0 orcs in the water, at any time of day
asciilifeform: picture, 20km of beach, not only empty of orcs but clean enuff to eat from.
BingoBoingo: I have to say, ascii_lander's visit to this planet was very good for the morale. It puts into perspective that My experience with the orcs is what he has been suffering since landing in the EE.UU big prison
mircea_popescu: so, if your desert march results in a jewel of code, a la ffa, sure. if your desert march results in ample "lulz" as we call them, ie, intricate, unforgiving documentation of orcs' idiocy, sure.
mod6: fuckin orcs
lobbes: Honestly, my knee-jerk reaction against sharing a box is probably based on the old idea of sharing it with $random_orcs. Sharing it with L1s may actually be a Good Thing (I'd probably learn a few useful things)
mircea_popescu: at least they're trying. "orcs trying" is becoming quite the lulzmine trope.
mircea_popescu: "you can only talk to orc in barbar" problem was traditionally resolved through "extrateritoriality", ie make a base and shoot the orcs that fail to grok what perimeter means.