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BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/01/the-boingo-isp-january-2018-monthly-statement/#comment-114635 << what's that star in there ? << Note that got cut off where I mention expenses in pesos get converted to Dosiedoes for reporting purposes.
mircea_popescu: ah
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo in the end, did you get prices from anyone that weren't utterly ridiculous, 2x internets ? << Not for shit that isn't lowest common denominator consumer boxes. The datacenter forwarded a spreadsheet SuperMicro sent them with prices for two boxes in quantities up to 20 a piece today. Missing was any information on what the fuck the boxes were. Super Micro included model numbers that don't resolve to anything
BingoBoingo: in their published catalog.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> aww poor bb lost weight! how you holding up down there ? << It beats the US, but the better my spanish gets the less impressed I am with the locals.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> btw BingoBoingo , what's a 'CoWork' ? << An office arrangement where they set you up with an address suitable for local fiscal reporting. Lotta outsourced remote workers here, many of the better locals I have encountered. Place to do actual work, the hostel isn't equiped to accomodate that.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i figure should prolly enact an expense account for you, looking through these ledgers. how's 20 bux a day sound ?
mircea_popescu: at least gotta be able to eat.
BingoBoingo: That sounds very reasonable.
mircea_popescu: aite, count it for feb, that gives you like a benjie headstart.
BingoBoingo: What's left of my fat is very relieved.
BingoBoingo: Thank you
BingoBoingo: !~later tell shinohai Got any Qntra stories baking yet?
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ok mircea_popescu , ready for the list ?
mircea_popescu: sure.
shinohai: Soon, BingoBoingo .... I have a relapse of the flu curse wafting around here.
asciilifeform: oh, here goes:
asciilifeform: on hand are three machines of the base config seen in http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/system/1U/1022/AS-1022G-URF.cfm ;
asciilifeform: (1) 2.3GHz x 32core (Opteron 6376) RAM Installed: 256G RAM Max: 256G
asciilifeform: Disk Cont.: Adaptec/LSI Disk Bays: 8 x 3.5" Disks Currently : none
asciilifeform: (2) 2.3GHz x 32core (Opteron 6376) RAM Installed: 256G RAM Max: 256G
asciilifeform: Disk Cont.: Adaptec/LSI Disk Bays: 4 x 3.5" Disks Currently : 4 x Samsung SSD 850 PRO (net 750G)
asciilifeform: (3) 1.9GHz x 24core (Opteron 6168) RAM Installed: 24G RAM Max: 256G
asciilifeform: Disk Cont.: Adaptec/LSI Disk Bays: 4 x 3.5" Disks Currently : none
asciilifeform: ^ all three nao have proper (non-mobo) raid cards with lithium backup battery installed
asciilifeform: #2 is Dulap-III, has FG installed
asciilifeform: all 3 have hotswap disk rails; and (why, i do not know, but it's there) 'slim' dvd drive.
asciilifeform: oh misprint : #1 has 2.5" bays. (this makes 0 practical diff, ssd only comes in 2.5, i installed converter rails in the 3.5 slots of the others )
asciilifeform: all 3 boxes tested by asciilifeform ; and have original packaging and rails.
asciilifeform: all 3 boxes purchased under s.nsa flag; #2 is provisioned with same contents as Dulap-II; the other 2 are sitting diskless and await instruction from mircea_popescu re what he'd like in'em.
asciilifeform: all 3 equipped with 'registered' ECC RAM, incidentally, and bios set to 'max scrub'.
asciilifeform: nao let's hear questions.
asciilifeform wonders whether ssd is in fact small enuff to travel via fedex to BingoBoingo without undue problems
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Everything that comes in Fedex/DHL seems to get inspected at customs here. Customs here seems to focus on how things enter the country. If it is fedex/dhl they figure it is prolly a local they can tax on their amazon purchase. If it is in a suitcase it is assumed to be the holy relic of a sacred tourist and thusly undisturbed.
BingoBoingo: Tourist is a priviledged status here
BingoBoingo: Only so much of the population is capable of working as a pinoy+, the competent authorities here are keenly aware that everything they have here is because of tourist expenditures.
BingoBoingo: This country between December and March hosts more tourists than it has people living here.
BingoBoingo: !!up jawbone2
deedbot: jawbone2 voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: jawbone2: Who is your daddy and what does he do?
ben_vulpes: hah mircea_popescu did break the messages table!
jawbone2: Howdy my dad is dead, so I suppose he does what dead people do.
BingoBoingo: Bien. De donde sos?
jawbone2: I live in Florida. A sunny place for shady people
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-30#1761215 << same ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-30 20:14 jawbone2: My name is Jim Weaver I live in Florida. I do not keep a blog yet. That is coming with my webserver project
BingoBoingo: Ah
jawbone2: Que hay de ti?
asciilifeform: ^ am i the only one who ever bothers with the !#s from:noob
jawbone2: yes
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: really, xray every envelope looking for disks??
BingoBoingo: I have not been there, but how many disks are you going to fit in an envelope before it starts looking like a package?
asciilifeform: 1
asciilifeform: they're what, half inch thick
asciilifeform: and weigh ~50g
asciilifeform: it aint as if BingoBoingo never seen ssd
BingoBoingo: Like 1/4-1/3 inch thick. Have seen.
asciilifeform: so then.
asciilifeform: and BingoBoingo knows that ssd dun last 4evah. so there'd better be an economical way of getting'em into BingoBoingostan.
BingoBoingo: !~calc 1200/100
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: 1200/100 = 12
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: get a read on how they calculate tax for items in opened envelopes yet?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the messages table was asking for it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform jesus christ dude.
asciilifeform: hm?
mircea_popescu: what the fuck happened to the blog post motherfucking hell
mircea_popescu: you're like, untalkable to. "do you need pictures ?" "no, i said spec" "ok, ima dump it in chan" "NO I SAID DO NOT DUMP IT IN FUCKING CHAN"
mircea_popescu: how exactly is this miswired mess of a nonbrain work ?
asciilifeform: i can paste it in a post, if mircea_popescu really wants
asciilifeform: but i can't magically turn it into moar text
asciilifeform: what's there to say. i have these 3 machines.
mircea_popescu: i tell you to do x, you do non-x, then whine about not being in the loop. then learn nothing from the experience, ready to do it all over again
asciilifeform: ( plus buncha obsolete iron, not worth putting in crate )
mircea_popescu: here, chew on this doozy : i will not use any of your shit now.
mircea_popescu: round #2 of this stupidity.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: If the paper declaring it an import with a value isn't there at least another 50% on top of the 22% VAT. Looking at the advertisements here https://listado.mercadolibre.com.uy/samsung-ssd#D[A:samsung ssd] it appears there is a brisk business of people doing the suitcase thing.
asciilifeform: i genuinely don't grasp what is mircea_popescu's problem.
BingoBoingo: How brisk is likely to be underwhelming
mircea_popescu: that's fine.
asciilifeform: i'ma try and make what i suspect mircea_popescu wanted. brb
mircea_popescu: too late.
mircea_popescu: i will literally not take any of your items now.
asciilifeform: they aren't actually mine tho, they're s.nsa inventory, mircea_popescu in fact had paid for'em.
mircea_popescu: you managed to get yourself locked out with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751567 and now you've managed to get yourself locked out of furnishing bbisp.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 18:45 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751463 << it does exactly one fucking job. this one : diana_coman please don't talk to asciilifeform or take any further advice from him. total timewaste.
mircea_popescu: so, people who ~aren't~ asciilifeform : phf still needs a pile of gear for his flight ; BingoBoingo can't produce it locally. i'm looking for system suggestions.
asciilifeform: so what, phf is under orders not to ship completed dulap-III ? mircea_popescu proclaims 's.nsa dun need a www' or FG storefront or wat
mircea_popescu: i don't see how s.nsa will afford a server now, no.
mircea_popescu: maybe at some point.
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf provide quote for shipping asciilifeform's (or maybe mircea_popescu's ?) 1U box, invoice asciilifeform .
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: he can't provide you a fucking quote on my airfare, what the fuck's wrong with you.
asciilifeform: i'ma buy his airfare.
mircea_popescu: how about you stop doing dumb shit instead of running around trying to fix the dumb shit you already did.
asciilifeform: the problem is to figure out wat exactly mircea_popescu wants
asciilifeform: so as not to throw fits.
mircea_popescu: yes, because reading comprehension's not a forte, and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779930 never happened and so on.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:40 mircea_popescu: just make that post will you!
mircea_popescu: in order to be useful you must actually communicate. this "ima just do whatever the fuck occurs to me" dun cut it. never has, never will.
asciilifeform: picture this, i even took the photos, and cropped, etc. and got stuck trying to satisfy mircea_popescu's earlier http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-30#1778264 item☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-30 23:08 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-29#1777970 << infiniely better to keep time discipline and adjust material than to lose time discipline to adjust it to your disease.
mircea_popescu: where did taking photos come from ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779932 << ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:40 asciilifeform: i'ma have to uncrate and photo then, later this weekend.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779933 <<< god fucking damn it.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:40 mircea_popescu: not even necessarily photo, a simple "here is what we have, COMPLETE specs ; and what we probably might want to ~EVER~ get".
mircea_popescu: do you even read what anyone says ?
asciilifeform: i also have a price table of disks, and discussion of future availability of opteron
mircea_popescu: yes well. maybe some other time.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma ask , naturally mircea_popescu dun gotta answer : how much rum today
asciilifeform: i ask this because the 3 boxes were purchased in autumn, after pedantically detailed discussion with mircea_popescu (see s.nsa reports for sept, oct 2017); , and on his express approval, paid for, burn-in tested, etc.
asciilifeform: and in no sense represent a failure to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781829 .☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:42 mircea_popescu: in order to be useful you must actually communicate. this "ima just do whatever the fuck occurs to me" dun cut it. never has, never will.
asciilifeform: the 4 ssd were the 'tangibles' in dec 2017 statement.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu for some reason of his own won't arrange the delivery of the completed box to s.bisp , asciilifeform will have to do so on his own, in furtherance of his obligations as s.nsa cto.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron can you get a coupla dozen FGs shipped to phf in wash dc ? how much ?
danielpbarron: !!up juhoitse
deedbot: juhoitse voiced for 30 minutes.
danielpbarron: !!help
deedbot: http://deedbot.org/help.html
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo incidentally, this rack is 19 inch or 23 inch ?
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, yes, how much money? i don't know exactly
mircea_popescu: do the maffs and let me know.
danielpbarron: i can invoice afterwards, what speed shipping should i do?
mircea_popescu: he leaves on 13th, so if you send them say tomorrow they can't possibly be late i dun think ?
danielpbarron: also, should i unbox them to reduce the size/cost?
mircea_popescu: yes.
danielpbarron: alright cool
asciilifeform: hey mircea_popescu , as s.nsa fuhrer, wouldja condescend to say what it is you want done with the 3u of iron you had commissioned ?
hanbot: <asciilifeform> picture this, i even took the photos, and cropped, etc. and got stuck trying to satisfy mircea_popescu's earlier item << fwiw, i suspect organizational trouble rather'n deliberate anti-delivery here. i'll say: i spent years imagining i.e. deliberate, detailed scheduling, writing "bullet points" etc was for dumb people, and that naturally i didn't need it. and i got by for various definitions of gettin', but didn't wash in mp's com
hanbot: pany.
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, let me know the address? i'll send them tomorrow
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nothing in particular, they can just sit and wait. you can write a letter to the shareholders explaining how you fucked up delivery if you wish.
asciilifeform: ~i~ fucked delivery ?!
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron aite ; phf send address plox.
hanbot: anyway i humbly suggest breaking out the day by day calendar etc when met with surprises as above.
asciilifeform: hanbot: i have the full stack of communiques from asciilifeform to mircea_popescu re each purchase, his responses, etc. and so does he. it dun seem to help.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes dude. you were to produce a blog article detailing the items sunday night, you dumped random lines in log monday night isntead. this is what fucking up delivery is.
mircea_popescu: at some point, maybe, if we're lucky, s.nsa will get another chance to have its iron delivered. until then, there it sits.
hanbot: asciilifeform i don't doubt it, but my tidbit is solely re what i quoted from you, ie got stuck trying to satisfy earlier item, and so hadn't produced other item by deadline that prolly didn't even seem like one
asciilifeform: this is what, a bbet-style acid test ? next item is that asciilifeform is expected to go into tilt ? guess wat, asciilifeform is tilt-proof.
mircea_popescu: and as an added bonus, you now get to go about looking for lords willing to bring your ideas about republican iron to the table, because i'm not further looking for your input on the topic just as i'm not further looking for your input on eucrypt topic.
asciilifeform: hanbot: and indeed i'm still grunting out prev item (ffa ch10 ) in conveyor.
mircea_popescu: you wanna participate, you gotta participate, not fuck up people's work for them.
asciilifeform: right, mircea_popescu can pour petrol , light match, and say ' asciilifeform started fire, by not posting cargo manifest in blog '
mircea_popescu: yup.
asciilifeform: i have nfi what to answer to this.
mircea_popescu: nothing besides next fucking time do post whatever's required as required and naught else.
hanbot: (calendar. srsly. it sounds stupid, i promise it's not.)
asciilifeform: hanbot: the man's clearly imbibed a critical mass of high octane rum, i can only leave him to digest it .
juhoitse: !! register http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ZZ4dh/?raw=true
juhoitse: !!register http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ZZ4dh/?raw=true
deedbot: 4A19ED232D579FF2F00153ED16DCDF81A0FE0B92 registered as juhoitse.
mircea_popescu: juhoitse no space after !! there you go
danielpbarron: !!pay juhoitse 0.01
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hanbot: asciilifeform are you basically arguing that the reaction is disproportionate?
juhoitse: !!balance
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Bhutb/?raw=true
danielpbarron: !!rate juhoitse 1 nazi pug guy fan
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asciilifeform: hanbot: i have nfi what the reaction is, possibly mircea_popescu has indigestion instead of rum, or whatever. i have a total of 3 usable machines, purchased after consultation with mircea_popescu , and reimbursed by him; specs were detailed to mircea_popescu before and after purchase . 1 machine was intended for s.nsa in particular; 2 for use as mircea_popescu later sees fit. whole thing was laid out in the logs on several occasions,
asciilifeform: is well-known to everybody tuned in.
mircea_popescu: what's that to do with anything ?
hanbot: asciilifeform so why not say "this task is stupid and unnecessary and i won't do it" instead of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1780446 ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 23:52 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma uncrate things, take pics, expect a roundup sunday night.
mircea_popescu: why. because it never was "hey, re-tell me what i already know", it was "hey, try and apply your knowledge to producing a list of what we want to buy"/
asciilifeform: hanbot , mircea_popescu : it ain't unnecessary, but it was stuck on the conveyor behind delayed ch10. asciilifeform (apparently mistakenly) assumed that mircea_popescu could act on the partial info. instead he 'yer an idjit, i'ma make my boxes from old shoes nao instead'
mircea_popescu: so that instead of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781846 i could've said (YESTERDAY) "hey folks, look at alf's article, make comments"☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fucking problem is exactly the "partial info". i'd rather have none.
asciilifeform: the way i parsed mircea_popescu's original work req, is that it was to be primarily a manifest of iron ready to fly in time for phf.
asciilifeform: and secondarily a discussion of obtainable additionals.
mircea_popescu: hey. the job is reading and understanding what's said. nobody else can, or will do it for you.
asciilifeform: from mircea_popescu's 1 sentence ?!
danielpbarron: trinque, what is the fee charged for deedbot withdraw? is there a way to check pre-emptively?
mircea_popescu: if one sentence's insufficient however many more are available upon request. PRIOR rather than POST failure.
asciilifeform: the 'here is what we have' of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779933 is fulfilled by what mircea_popescu termed 'the random garbage in the log' (in fact a complete actionable description of asciilifeform's inventory.) the 'what we will EVER want to get' , and asciilifeform is multiply on record re subj, is more of exactly same , 63xx/61xx opterons , from same surplus contacts where asciilifeform previously obtained the 3.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:40 mircea_popescu: not even necessarily photo, a simple "here is what we have, COMPLETE specs ; and what we probably might want to ~EVER~ get".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu naturally is free to barf and 'i'ma use old shoe instead' because 'you did not format it as i demanded!' .
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can't be serious ? that whole thing is permanently disposed in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781804 ; it ain't gonna change, what do you imagine this is, kindergarten of free takes ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:31 mircea_popescu: here, chew on this doozy : i will not use any of your shit now.
mircea_popescu: you had your take, fucked it up, maybe at some point you get more. that's it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu sees 'fucked it up', i see alcoholic fit.
mircea_popescu: tis a free republic, any can see what he sees.
asciilifeform: verily.
asciilifeform: at any rate, as previously described asciilifeform is tilt-proof, any time mircea_popescu feels like making sense again, is invited to resume.
mircea_popescu: you realise this is the definition of tilt, yes ? "i know better than mp" etc.
asciilifeform: actually i know, apparently, nuffin
asciilifeform: i am utterly unable to make sense of mircea_popescu's eggog
asciilifeform: hanbot's tip re calendars didn't particularly help either.
trinque: danielpbarron: "reasonable based on market conditions"
trinque: and nah, I'm not quoting them ahead of time
trinque: because consider, I automatically quote you a fee, and then the mempool fills up. now what
danielpbarron: trinque, ok so should he try to withdraw the full amount and then it'll say.. ?
asciilifeform: currently i have a clogged conveyor, consisting of 'keep weekly posts, idjit' and 'manifest of now-and-future iron' , in that sequence . asciilifeform sits and continues to grind conveyor. meanwhile mircea_popescu throws fit, 'you fucked it' , etc.
trinque: danielpbarron: if somebody withdraws entire balance, I subtract the tx fee from that amount.
asciilifeform: oh, and not to forget , 'permanently disposed of '
danielpbarron: trinque, ok thank you
trinque: quite welcome
juhoitse: !!withdraw 0.01 14EuLaLmKLZcSPjwekzDEYSm7HFx7dXYAV
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9sqzl/?raw=true
juhoitse: !!v FA38C1D31C274146E0EC6131057E53C894CBE18F69E53CC16E6BEED121B9731C
asciilifeform: incidentally, if trinque , phf , et al , grasp mircea_popescu's pov, and think ' asciilifeform is idjit ' , invited to explain to asciilifeform .
mod6: I srsly doubt anyone thinks you're an idiot. I certainly do not. Maybe just take an irc break for a few hours. Stop your converyor belt, go and write blog post about boxen; even if too late. Ask forgiveness. Who knows, maybe Mr. Popescu changes his mind. Maybe not. But eitherway, lesson learned 'eh?
asciilifeform: mod6: seems like he dun want $article anymoar . will go into second fit re 'wasted time writing unwanted piece, oughta have done not-yet-cancelled items'
asciilifeform: mod6: i apparently do not have a good working model of mircea_popescu .
asciilifeform: if he says ' ok, moron, go fucking finish it ' i'ma scratch head and finish it ; otherwise i got 9000pounds of what to still do otherwise
asciilifeform: mod6: it isn't clear what i am to apologize to mircea_popescu for : not being a telepath ? not having extra set of hands to make errything on conveyor happen at once ? what, exactly.
mod6: I'm not here to tell you what to do.
asciilifeform: was curious re whether mod6 observed some detail which asciilifeform missed, is all.
mod6: I'm certain that I don't know all of what was discussed between yourself and mircea_popescu - even in this very chamber.
asciilifeform: whole thing is in the logs.
asciilifeform: mod6: there is not some private segment that was not shown ( aside from sept.-dec. exchanges where asciilifeform was directed to obtain $iron, reported on progress, all the way to 'dulap-III ready for installation' )
mircea_popescu: trinque i suspect his whole thing was "how much under "all" must i withdraw to get it through". but in any case, how hard would it be to have a !!fee that reports "past week avg fee : x (y txn)" "past month avg fee" etc.
trinque: not hard at all; I'm of course recording it all
trinque: we might even get to the point where I *am* willing to quote fees ahead of time
mircea_popescu: well, exposing history is prolly 90% of the job anyway. give people a feel for it.
mircea_popescu: independently interesting from a statistical perspective anyway.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: why are you not rolling VAT into this pricing scheme?
trinque: not stating an explicit price per U is going to make the folks who aren't independently wealthy hesitant to dive in headfirst.
trinque: not "here's our cost model" plus whatever margin and maybe we find there are other costs later, or something
trinque: "my name is BingoBoingo and a U costs X, the end." pls&ty
trinque is probably not the only person who is going to be aggressively buying bitcoin now that the blowoff happened.
trinque: so, my finances are going to stay taught as teenaged pussy in 2018
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781846 << I've been very pleased with an ASRock-based tower I built recently.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?
mircea_popescu: trinque thinking about it, dozen boards, dozen cpus, two dozen hdds, ram, fgs... i doubt he can actually carry this much.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo does the dc provide the racking boxes at least ? or does sheer metal have to be carried from overseas also ?
trinque: if I'm reading this correctly, 26.8 + 5.90 funnybux / wk, which is notbad.jpg
trinque: original estimate was iirc something like 270/mo
ben_vulpes: where does that 5.90 come from?
trinque: 22% vat
ben_vulpes: ah ah
trinque: ftr BingoBoingo it would've been clearer to just leave vat (and any other line items) in the calculation for U/wk
trinque knows BingoBoingo is *not* trying to omit things, just sets off allergies I developed dealing with other folks
trinque: it's a lovely thing to deal with people who will even tell you how they came to the price.
mircea_popescu: trinque do you actually like weekly pricing for colocation for some reason ?
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/preet-reduced-to-panhandling-disc-jockey-again-demonstrating-costs-of-opposing-republic/ << Qntra - Preet Reduced To Panhandling Disc Jockey, Again Demonstrating Costs Of Opposing Republic
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/buttfunex-preparing-for-another-insertion-sorry-for-your-loss/ << Qntra - Buttfunex Preparing For Another Insertion: Sorry For Your Loss
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/pantsuit-seattle-mayor-ed-murray-quits-amid-serial-child-fucking-scandal/ << Qntra - Pantsuit Seattle Mayor Ed Murray Quits Amid Serial Child Fucking Scandal
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/civil-unrest-continues-in-charleston-leftist-culture-warriors-move-historical-revisionism-target-to-university-founder-thomas-jefferson/ << Qntra - Civil Unrest Continues In Charleston: Leftist Culture Warriors Move Historical Revisionism Target To University Founder Thomas Jefferson
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/usg-nsa-buggered-torrent-networks/ << Qntra - USG.NSA Buggered Torrent Networks
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/pantsuits-party-reacts-to-pantsuits-book-by-capitulating-to-president-trump/ << Qntra - Pantsuit's Party Reacts To Pantsuit's Book By Capitulating To President Trump
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/media-and-clergy-orchestrated-civil-disorder-erupts-in-downtown-st-louis-after-acquittal/ << Qntra - Media And Clergy Orchestrated Civil Disorder Erupts In Downtown St Louis After Acquittal
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/illinois-government-places-unfunded-menstrual-mandate-on-local-schools/ << Qntra - Illinois Government Places Unfunded Menstrual Mandate On Local Schools
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/casino-robbed-amid-civil-disorder-in-st-louis/ << Qntra - Casino Robbed Amid Civil Disorder In St Louis
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/actual-healines-found-on-mainstream-fake-news-publications/ << Qntra - Actual Headlines Found On Mainstream "Fake News" Publications
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/us-president-trump-makes-first-address-to-un/ << Qntra - US President Trump Makes First Address To UN
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/latest-bitcoin-network-difficulty-adjustment-up-19-58-percent-to-new-all-time-high-as-chicoms-push-out-local-fiatbitcoin-trading-interfaces/ << Qntra - Latest Bitcoin Network Difficulty Adjustment: Up ~19.58 Percent To New All Time High As Chicoms Push Out Local fiat/Bitcoin Trading Interfaces
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/trump-offers-earthquake-aid-to-mexico-after-mexico-renegs-on-hurricaine-aid-to-texas-terrorist-assault-on-saint-louis-continues/ << Qntra - Trump Offers Earthquake Aid To Mexico After Mexico Renegs on Hurricane Aid To Texas; Terrorist Assault On Saint Louis Continues
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/st-louis-aldermen-pass-resolution-honoring-late-heroin-trafficker/ << Qntra - St Louis Aldermen Pass Resolution Honoring Late Heroin Trafficker
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/russia-erupts-in-nazi-rifle-monument-scandal/ << Qntra - Russia Erupts In Nazi Rifle Monument Scandal
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/09/oppression-in-spain-heavy-handed-madrid-government-suppressing-catalan-independence-referendum/ << Qntra - Oppression In Spain: Heavy Handed Madrid Government Suppressing Catalan Independence Referendum
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/01/qntra-s-qntr-september-2017-report/ << Qntra - Qntra (S.QNTR) September 2017 Report
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/02/online-again/ << Qntra - Online Again
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/02/what-happened-while-qntra-was-down/ << Qntra - What Happened While Qntra Was Down
trinque: oh jesus
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/02/us-intel-committee-releases-memo-damning-fbi-full-text/ << Qntra - US Intel Committee Releases Memo Damning FBI Full Text
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/02/malware-exploiting-intel-cpu-hardware-vunerabilities-being-found-in-the-wild/ << Qntra - Malware Exploiting Intel CPU Hardware Vunerabilities Being Found In The Wild
trinque: one sec.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i can say outright BingoBoingo 's prices are not correct. i ended up paying a little over 7k for 2 months' of the thing ; that's 3.6k or such post tax / 3k pre-tax not 2323.
mircea_popescu: !~calc 0.58441904 * 14915.6671703
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 0.58441904 * 14915.6671703 = 8716.999888626242
trinque: ah well, that was all of it, I guess. welcome back, qntra
mircea_popescu: hm. conceivably wrong one lessee
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1775877 << ya there it was.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 00:35 mircea_popescu: !~calc 7150 / 11312.7937668
mircea_popescu: so then, 7150 * 6 / 52 / 40 * 2 = 41.25 final cost, per week. includes 1U of space, 302GB of weekly upload / 3TB download (as per 20 × 3600 × 24 × 7 ÷ 40) and lessee re wattage,
mircea_popescu: well apparently this was never published. yo BingoBoingo WHY is your contract that you signed not online ? where's the wattage ? etc.
trinque hasn't a preference for weekly, other than manages the bitcoin:fiat interface volatility better, which iirc was the rationale
trinque: was just reading from his blog's weekly numbers
mircea_popescu: aite.
mircea_popescu: trinque i dunno what that post was about, but ima strike it from teh record.
trinque: rate's nb at all
mircea_popescu: anyway, the committment to transparency and in general predictability as shown above is there.
mircea_popescu: the "pay twice the cost but it buys you insurance from "what if the rack doesn't fill" as well as not having to do the legwork" principle seems reasonably fair to me ; it may alter in the future, but for fucking cause. like the prices work in #eulora.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781846 <- my only slight dislike of the amd fx is precisely higher power consumption & warming up; while fx 8350s is indeed not that bad on this account, it still consumes more than opteron 6376 afaik☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the power diff is only about 10W. the 6376 does have 16 cores, but then again 8350 is 4GHz vs 3ish...
mircea_popescu: now, of course, the 6376 could be piled 4 to the motherboard. but i tell you i don't see you'd want it, considering how much it eats.
diana_coman: well yes, hence "slight dislike" not a deal breaker or anything major; fwiw at this moment I'd say Eulora can certainly live on either
mircea_popescu: seems to me a bad deal to trade 4ghz down to 3 in exchange for 16 cores instead of 8. contrary to all the hubbub, "multithreading" isn't nearly that working in practice.
mircea_popescu: this, of course, is where "teh experts" could contribute, if they weren't busy taking a shit right exactly when they're needed. but... such is lyf.
diana_coman: well, at the end of the day it depends on what software exactly one runs on that computer, not an overall generic answer
mircea_popescu: kinda intended to be a sort of generic offering ; people with specific needs still can ship their gear over.
mircea_popescu: take something like, i dunno, epyc-7351 say. costs 7x, has 4x the cores, 4.5x the ram speed, 4.5x the l2/3 cache and 50% the power. basically i'm getting less than twice as much processor per watt, if i pay 7x the money. meh.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather take another rack.
mircea_popescu: not to mention the item is an atrocity cobbled together out of a dozen or so actual chips, and all sorts of those discussions.
diana_coman: sorry, crap connection this morning, argh
mircea_popescu: :p
diana_coman: I can see the argument as a generic offering , yes; in all fairness it's not like we have a load of properly-speaking multi-threaded software to run
mircea_popescu: ~theoretically~ teh linux kernel is multithreaded ; in practice... well, more or less. 32 core certainly does not support 4x the load of 8 core cpus, at least in my (very limited) experience.
diana_coman: oh yes, theoretically all sorts; by "properly-speaking" I meant precisely NOT theoretical
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: now then, considering that config : the fx-8350 is ~120 bux ; the ASRock 970M PRO3 is like $50 ; 4 x 16GB ddr3-1866 ram chips (say teh crucial ct16g3r186dm) come to about 700 dollars. drives should be about $100 to 150 per. i'm thinking should prolly actually include 2 and 4 disk setups, so taking an average of 3 that's about $1300 per box, which is not bad at all, really.
diana_coman: sounds quite reasonable to me
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781806 << i missed this. say what ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:31 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: If the paper declaring it an import with a value isn't there at least another 50% on top of the 22% VAT. Looking at the advertisements here https://listado.mercadolibre.com.uy/samsung-ssd#D[A:samsung ssd] it appears there is a brisk business of people doing the suitcase thing.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on the cool deal front, http://trilema.com/2013/splendor-in-the-grass/#comment-124461
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781806 << i missed this. say what ? << Is re: Fedexing things of value for the local customs folks to decide are shady unlabeled "internet purchases", apparently that is their term of art.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:31 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: If the paper declaring it an import with a value isn't there at least another 50% on top of the 22% VAT. Looking at the advertisements here https://listado.mercadolibre.com.uy/samsung-ssd#D[A:samsung ssd] it appears there is a brisk business of people doing the suitcase thing.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ? << Sounds a hell of a lot beefier than the Qntra server.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo incidentally, this rack is 19 inch or 23 inch ? << 19 inch
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: why are you not rolling VAT into this pricing scheme? << I did not in that draft under the presumption taxes are another salary.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo does the dc provide the racking boxes at least ? or does sheer metal have to be carried from overseas also ? << Inquiry sent, with a timeline (i.e. can be had next week)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> well apparently this was never published. yo BingoBoingo WHY is your contract that you signed not online ? where's the wattage ? etc. << Will deturd and publish today
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> incidentally, if trinque , phf , et al , grasp mircea_popescu's pov, and think ' asciilifeform is idjit ' , invited to explain to asciilifeform . << The problem of where to post was the easy part of the ask. Especially in light of the growing napkin doodle problem http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-03#1780678☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-03 01:36 mircea_popescu: well the whole thing is one huge napkin doodle shared over the chan as it stands
mircea_popescu: o hey there.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo aite on the power and rack cages scores. any tips you want to share with phf ? how's teh suitcase ppls do it ?
mircea_popescu: intel thinking at the time being is, "have the paperwork for mbs and chips in slot 1 ; paperwork for disks in slot 2 ; for ram in slot 3. then if asked for papers, present slot 1, offer to pay, whine and ask for discounts, etc. if that dun pass, add slot 2, whine more insistently."
mircea_popescu sees no problem whatsoever in paying 0.22 * 12 * 120+50 = 366.8 vat if it gets the pile across.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo aite on the power and rack cages scores. any tips you want to share with phf ? how's teh suitcase ppls do it ? << They pad things as appropriate, but they discard the original packaging. Also it is important to grab a customs form, they are on the wall on the right once you exit the duty free store zone, on the opposite side of the space is the baggage claim.
mircea_popescu: word.
mircea_popescu: you gonna be there to pick him up when he lands yes ?
BingoBoingo: From there the actual customs x-ray station and the lines for said station is around a U shaped bend. Usually they apathetically wave people through, the more foreign appearing without being India/Chinese generally the less interest they have.
mircea_popescu: so, to give some guidance here!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> you gonna be there to pick him up when he lands yes ? << I can be if he asks. From there the plan is proceed to the cowork and unpack the equipment.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo : the logic is, ima want 5 of the dozen ; the rest could each at least in principle support 100 "shared" sorta sites each, at $20 a month or whatever you end up charging. that's, if you manage to fill up the lot, $14`000 per month in revenue.
mircea_popescu: then there's 5 * 41.25 * 7 ~= 1500 from racking the five. if you get say another five items to rack from other folk, that's 3k.
mircea_popescu: so ~in principle~, you can end up very profitable. what's needed is a good system for shared hosting, and hounding the low end forums/whatever.
mircea_popescu: this make sense to you ?
BingoBoingo: This makes an incredible amount of sense.
mircea_popescu: aite. you can certainly eat even out of a half-filled rack, so. it's a biz.
deedbot: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/02/06/its-only-words-and-assumptions-and-priorities-and-ouch/ << Ossasepia - Its only words and assumptions; and priorities; and ouch!
mircea_popescu: now, as to everyone else : today's the 6th. the plan is to continue discussing the spec given above, for improvements/refinements/whatever until the 8th ; at which point we start ordering. there's about 15k fiats worth of gear being contemplated, and i'm more than willing to spread it around a few people who want some cheap coins.
mircea_popescu: so, let me know if you're interested in buying some newegg/amazon/whatever for this, danielpbarron pete_dushenski whosoever else.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for clerical record : the per-month amortisation value of a $1300 box is 1300/12 (ie, we deem them obsolete in one year) ; consequently the retail monthly cost of a $1300 box is 1300/12*2 = 216.666666667 ; or the weekly exactly 50.
mircea_popescu: so your cost basis per shared host would be like $100 weekly, nothing short of a license to print dough.
BingoBoingo: Thank you for the numbers and the opportunity.
mircea_popescu: hey, if we pull this off i'll be just as happy as you.
mircea_popescu: and, to be sure, if you do manage to fill it, and if it does make good dough, i'll be just as happy for you to get a nice villa and import your own german car and diddle all the uruguayan hos you can find. so...
mircea_popescu: make 2018 the year bb becomes rich.
BingoBoingo: Deturding the contract now. Re: the weekly number the 7150 included two one time setup charges so (900+250)*1.22=1403 of the 7150 sum sent is not going to be recurring. Months 2 through 23 of the contract are 2834.06 each after VAT.
mircea_popescu: oooo!
BingoBoingo returns to formating tables in plaintext in the anexes
mircea_popescu: check it out trinque even better than originally thought. i forgot about the setup fees.
BingoBoingo: Also after contract is deturded, sometime today a post reflecting on dos meses.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1782057 << the principal difference being that other than holding down a high responsibility tech job with a significant on-call component, ~the woman~ is also raising a child. with the flu and everything. yet somehow her shit is still dribbling out on thursdays, today as nine weeks ago.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 13:27 deedbot: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/02/06/its-only-words-and-assumptions-and-priorities-and-ouch/ << Ossasepia - Its only words and assumptions; and priorities; and ouch!
mircea_popescu: juhoitse so who might you be, other than dpb's friend ?
juhoitse: Not really anyone special, what do you want to know about me?
mircea_popescu: well, what work / studying do you do, that sorta thing.
juhoitse: I'm finishing high school at the moment, going to study engineering in a uni hopefully soon
mircea_popescu: a. cool.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Here is the whole unredacted contract. I am unsure what, if anything ought to be redacted before publication given the mission of maximally pissing on the enemy by not being a prude http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/7WHsY/?raw=true
juhoitse: And I'm Finnish
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ima look.
mircea_popescu: juhoitse what's that do ?
juhoitse: What do?
diana_coman: juhoitse, what do you intend to do here?
mircea_popescu: do you get superpowers or something ? for instance, i'm romanian, and consequently i can curse.
juhoitse: Well I think I want to get to into bitcoin some more
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : "why did you bring your cat to school, joey ?" "because as i was leaving daddy said to mommy he's gonna eat that pussy once joey leaves for school ;/"
juhoitse: Getting a job soon so gonna have some money to invest as well
mircea_popescu: https://images7.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED114/546b10da9172d.jpeg << also, i just realised i need childism too!
juhoitse: As a finn I have the immunity to hard liqour but I've lost my social skills as a consequence
mircea_popescu: juhoitse better than nothing.
diana_coman: juhoitse, I suggest you try making some btc directly in eulora; at least there you can't lose more than you have
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol, you actually met teh president ?
juhoitse: Thanks for the tip man
juhoitse: Im trying to learn slowly but surely about all these cryptothings
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Small country
BingoBoingo: But no I did not meet him, he sent his regards.
mircea_popescu: aite. so i say publish as is, but replace the addresses with ***.
mircea_popescu: and it looks like we're paying 10 cents a Watt, so that settles that score.
BingoBoingo: Cool, after that two month reflection blog post with authoring possibly interupted by almurzo.
mircea_popescu: now in a position to restate http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1782000 as follows :☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 05:03 mircea_popescu: so then, 7150 * 6 / 52 / 40 * 2 = 41.25 final cost, per week. includes 1U of space, 302GB of weekly upload / 3TB download (as per 20 × 3600 × 24 × 7 ÷ 40) and lessee re wattage,
diana_coman: juhoitse, best answer really is... doing; if unclear what, ask
juhoitse: I'm googling about eulora rn
juhoitse: And probably start there
diana_coman: join #eulora; read eulorum.org
mircea_popescu: so then, (7150 - 1403) * 6 / 52 / 40 * 2 = 33.15 final cost, per week. includes 1U of space, 37.75GB of weekly upload / 377.5GB download (as per 20 / 8 × 3600 × 24 × 7 ÷ 40) and 2500/40 = 62.5 Watts of power (in the sense of 37.8 MJ).
juhoitse: Yea reading the eulora.org at the moment
mircea_popescu: Extra power is 20 cents/Watt, can be had as an add-on. Extra bandwidth, idem, though because granularity issues can't really give a fixed price in advance. but something like $20 doubles it, more or less.
mircea_popescu: and, of course, the boxes discussed if rented add another $50. or else can colocate own, but must be provided CIF @ BingoBoingo
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/06/contract/ << Bingo Blog - Contract
diana_coman didn't know it was republica ORIENTAL del uruguay, ha
mircea_popescu: oya.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: It is eastern in a sense
BingoBoingo: of being east
mircea_popescu: lol.
diana_coman: well, it certainly sounds quite... east-ish, let's say; I'm surprised at how much I can actually read /follow that thing now
mircea_popescu: espanol/castellano no es dificil
BingoBoingo: No one seems to call it Castellano here in the city, maybe in the countryside?
mircea_popescu: certainly in arjentina.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, is the "company" having your name or isn't this between latechco and your company or what?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, this reminds me of early attempts with Italian: when stuck, grab a Romanian/French/latin word, stick Italian ending on it and say it loud and clear; it the worse case locals will promptly correct it
diana_coman: in*
diana_coman: !!key juhoitse
deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/4A19ED232D579FF2F00153ED16DCDF81A0FE0B92.asc
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, is the "company" having your name or isn't this between latechco and your company or what? << At present due to the painful $900 lesson my name is my company, though it is indeed a legally registered company in Uruguay. Once I have a local ID (Hopefully sometime March-April) and I make another run at the corporation (because the provisional ID cuts the passport knot) it will be [insert aculturally relevant
BingoBoingo: name] S.A. but it will have a seperate "doing business as" name which I figure might as well just be my name according to the principal of maximum pissing on.
BingoBoingo: !~later tell pete_dushenski Have you been following the BBisp developments?
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
mod6: mornin'
BingoBoingo: Buenas tardes mod6
mod6: flu :<
mod6: it was bound to get me eventually
shinohai: Feel for ya mod6. I got a relapse too. You shouldn't have been hanging around me this past weekend. :P
mod6: heheh
mod6: last weekened i was all cocky about it too. "look at everyone gettin sick! NOT ME!"
mod6: 'tis what i deserve
asciilifeform also finally infected. plox to buffer the haetmail , folx, for day or two.
diana_coman: !!rate juhoitse 1 can follow directions; euloran noob
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/H3JEm/?raw=true
shinohai: !~bible Proverbs 16:18
jhvh1: shinohai: [KJV] Proverbs 16:18 :: Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 7046.25, vol: 72965.90197081 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 7050.7, vol: 213281.0619885 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 7025.0, vol: 31563.5419164 | Volume-weighted last average: 7047.12591648
BingoBoingo: In history found hunting for log links http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-08#1579615☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 03:29 mircea_popescu: ex of 1B documents. Then our cost comes down to $12M/yr." << this danluu piece is the most idiotic thing i read all day. what the fuck has "cloud" done to these people that they think a 1bn index cost A MILLION A MONTH holy shit.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/06/two-months-in-montevideo/ << Bingo Blog - Two Months In Montevideo
BingoBoingo: ^ Two month reflection post published
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1782121 << equitousish exactuusing!☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 14:54 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, this reminds me of early attempts with Italian: when stuck, grab a Romanian/French/latin word, stick Italian ending on it and say it loud and clear; it the worse case locals will promptly correct it
mircea_popescu: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 7135.29, vol: 71089.68377008 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 7133.3, vol: 207043.5010283 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 7119.7, vol: 30818.2037311 | Volume-weighted last average: 7132.40128548
mircea_popescu: aww not even 5k ? i r diss-appoint ;/
BingoBoingo: Only so many laffs in this joak
mircea_popescu: sadly;
mircea_popescu: because i suspect we're stuck with it until well over >1mn shitiats per coin.
BingoBoingo: Well, they gotta let the price run up again before they waterfall for increasingly disappointing crashes a couple more times at least.
mircea_popescu: eh, by now it's like...
mircea_popescu: well, sorta like libtarded precious cuntlet in 2018. "i wonder why nobody writes to me on fetlife!!!" "where's your nudie shots ?" "ummmm..."
mircea_popescu: then again, there were idiots "working for the government" in the 90s eastern bloc...
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/02/apple-fails-to-segregate-data-sends-installation-and-marketing-data-to-rival-firms/ << Qntra - Apple Fails To Segregate Data: Sends Installation And Marketing Data To Rival Firms
mircea_popescu: btw BingoBoingo : do some research, see if you can actually mount the proposed config as such, see if you find better parts or anything.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-disaster-artist/ << Trilema - The Disaster Artist
BingoBoingo: Will do, have a Spanish lesson in a bit. Despues tengo tiempo para esta tarea.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781846 << In the early searching I am wondering if a cooler will fit☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the idea is to put them in 2u
mircea_popescu: 2u is like... 8.9cm tall. you think not ?
mircea_popescu: (this ~is~ a desktop cpu ; so it may need special mounting, but i don't think it should be outright unmountable. the asrock is a mini-atx, afaik those fit in 2u.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in harem delights, breakfast pancakes with tahini, gingseng molasses, fruit and venezuelan rum, served aside colombian coffee.
BingoBoingo: The board ought to fit in 2U, plently of chassis advertised for that if not necessarily here in Uruguay. The FX-8xxx series though is apparently quite the heater.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it eats 125W and has 4 power-down steppings. how much can it heat.
mircea_popescu: but its microatx ftr, not mini. that's even smaller than the itx
mircea_popescu: anyway, the board itself is glass pcb, a fine piece indeed. however, the processor doesn't even work over 60 celsius.
mircea_popescu: BUT : if you have good cooling, cpu is "unlocked" and motherboard supports it, so you can prolly overclock it to like 5k
ben_vulpes impressed with today's musklaunch
ben_vulpes: also i like rockets
doppler: synchronized booster landing was pretty impressive
mircea_popescu: rocketcar when
mod6: hopefully soon
BingoBoingo: While I do some measurement and chassis hunting, here is the board powering Qntra if anyone wants to build their own. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138448
ben_vulpes: in other criminal organization news, even the locals are getting in on it http://www.wbtv.com/story/37442000/source-davidson-county-deputy-arrested-after-bank-robbery-in-rockwell
mircea_popescu: lel