tmsr - Log 2019-02-27

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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho pretty sad , actually : the (afaik) last 100% mcd-free reservation on hemisphere, totters.

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform Well hard to tell if they are opening to McDonalds or simply moving to converge with Uruguay's Fat Forehead party

BingoBoingo: Possible

a111: Logged on 2017-05-16 20:09 asciilifeform: which is why north kr was priceless treasure -- the ONLY remaining experiment with industry sans konsoomer-spending-britneyizes-all

asciilifeform: right nao in cuba, there's this wonder, orcs who machine toyota gearboxes to fit in 'lada', etc.

asciilifeform: when 'civilization' swallows island, they'll be watchin' 'netflix' like mircea_popescu's argentines.

asciilifeform: sorta how in ru today 1e6 lolcat watchers for erry d00d with half a brain who builds pdp with own hands. whereas in 1990 , 1e6 builders of pdp and 0 lolcat. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-06-13 02:20 mircea_popescu: it was utterly the case of eg ro revolution. none of the people there wanted "freedom". they were literally pissed off they can't drive over to austrian border and load up the car at the w/e discount shop.

asciilifeform: i have nfi how anyone can escape the conclusion that 'western civilization' of the past-50y model is in any way diff in effect than eating pb paint chips.

BingoBoingo: Stockholm syndrome is a thing

asciilifeform: soon enuff , when no moar castros, those bananistani will be living in mortgaged cardboard, eating mcd, and watching 'netflix', shitting out 'blogs' fulla malapropisms , an' ~nobody will remember any other time. ☟︎

BingoBoingo: Well, Maduro's folk have mcd, netflix, and Pnohes

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as i understand, maduro is on the chopping block; and i dun think these are unrelated

asciilifeform: e.g. how come erry man of fighting age in vz aint on the boarder, pumping lead into the 'humanitarian convoy', manning ack-ack batteries, etc ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: or why, for that matter, not stormed pantsuit 'parliament' and dragged guiado out by the heels to the public stake ?

BingoBoingo: Well, border closed. Convoy torched by "protesters" on Colombian side

asciilifeform: but from what clues BingoBoingo dug up prev, the vz folx have already 'let miami into their hearts'

a111: Logged on 2017-11-03 13:08 asciilifeform: asciilifeform confessed to a cabbie that he wants to move, and cabbie looked as if asciilifeform grew a cock on his forehead

asciilifeform: was 'textbook case' of 'miami of the central nervous system'

asciilifeform: sent his daughter to 'journalism' (iirc) school, just so to optimize for eventual miamiization ☟︎

asciilifeform: iirc BingoBoingo documented a number of similar zombies also

hanbot: <BingoBoingo> hanbot: There's a team with one profoundly fat person working deep in the hot aisle putting filling up a rack. The hamplanet's moving about makes keeping a terminal plugged into the machine a precarious proposition. Will dive again later. << lol ty for the perseverance in the face (crack?) of doom BingoBoingo

lobbesbot: hanbot: Sent 6 hours and 6 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/IWcky/?raw=true Your machine is back online

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899477 <-- ty, asciilifeform! I'll update the post with a link to your mirror later today ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 04:56 asciilifeform: spyked: http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/gutentext.tar.xz for nao

lobbesbot: spyked: Sent 9 hours and 54 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> that gutenberg tarball -- didja get a chance to auto-kill all of the header liquishit ? i'd prefer to mirror a flensed copy, the 50kB of 'this text copyright wikitards(tm)(r)' is eyesore

spyked: ^ re de-header-ization: it's currently in the works, I'll shoot out another update once the new .tar.xz is ready.

a111: Logged on 2019-02-26 23:18 asciilifeform: spyked: that thing is on a 28kbaud modem or wat?!

spyked: !!v 8E46A9C2B6808215858F491A399AF9D0ED185CBE232C2DEECE1D5E8224810263

deedbot: spyked rated diana_coman 4 << eulora, ada and others; showed me around .ro.petroltown

asciilifeform no longer specifically stampcollects these, but occasionally turns up by chance

asciilifeform: btw if anyone here happens to come across 1 of these lolboxes, feel free to send to asciilifeform for xray ( if you want it back, will cost return postage )

shinohai: im poking about with trb, gonna put up a post soon if ya wanna read

shinohai: asciilifeform: didja get chance to do regrind steps on trb? I would of course *like* to have your sigs there, since you wrote a bunch of old patches.

mod6: thanks asciilifeform; the one thing that changed, other than the hashes (from sha512->keccak) in the vpatches, is in the genesis.vpatch, I removed that UTF-8 character. ☟︎

asciilifeform: !Q later tell diana_coman were you able to build a working ave1gnat with sjljism ? or is that still an open puzzler?

diana_coman: asciilifeform, I built it, yes; iirc you even cut open a bin compiled with it

lobbesbot: diana_coman: Sent 6 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> were you able to build a working ave1gnat with sjljism ? or is that still an open puzzler?

asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc what i cut was built with old-stype gnat16 neh ?

asciilifeform: ( i.e. was prior to the thread where diana_coman rebuilt ave1's )

a111: Logged on 2019-02-16 17:04 asciilifeform: diana_coman: are we sawing'em open because it dun actually abort, or simply to compare with old gnat's sjlj , tho ?

diana_coman: the missing bit re compiling ave1's gnat with sjlj was found by ave1 : http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-16#1897189 ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-16 09:44 ave1: diana_coman, in system-linux-*.ads (in gcc/ada directory) you'll find the line: ZCX_By_Default : constant Boolean := False;

diana_coman: note that you'll get simply gnat with sjlj, no option to switch between zcx and sjlj i.e. --rts won't work ☟︎

asciilifeform: aha, i walked back and saw this, was needed for working build

asciilifeform: ( tho it doesn't impact asciilifeform's current item , or afaik anything else just nao )

diana_coman: I have on my conveyor first to complete and publish the full set of data zcx vs sjlj; after that I guess I'll publish the notes re building ave1's gnat too ☟︎

asciilifeform: ^ method for running entire proggies inside intel's 'speculative' nonsense iron

asciilifeform: ^ complete with 'speculative buffer overflow' & similar lulz. ☟︎

hanbot: re my cuntoo-in': i ran bootstrap.sh, got trinque's smileyface, but then "cp: cannot stat '../config/4.9.94-apu2': No such file or directory". i'm having moar surgery tomorrow, but i'll dig into this again friday.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899446 << pretty sure there was a ONE mcd in havana, best-korea style. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 00:17 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for all i know, already opened

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899452 << this'd be precisely why spawning's a waste of republican time. the daughter of random orcs from africa makes just as good a putative slavegirl, the son of random chinese provincial governors makes just as good putative meat for the noose as anything your missus could be bringing you home. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 00:22 asciilifeform: sorta how in ru today 1e6 lolcat watchers for erry d00d with half a brain who builds pdp with own hands. whereas in 1990 , 1e6 builders of pdp and 0 lolcat.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899460 << there's an island, smaller than cuba, "civilised" before it. it's where the industrialized farms dump their (otherwise unsellable) mutton bellies, in preference of having them removed as garbage. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 00:39 asciilifeform: soon enuff , when no moar castros, those bananistani will be living in mortgaged cardboard, eating mcd, and watching 'netflix', shitting out 'blogs' fulla malapropisms , an' ~nobody will remember any other time.

a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 00:41 asciilifeform: e.g. how come erry man of fighting age in vz aint on the boarder, pumping lead into the 'humanitarian convoy', manning ack-ack batteries, etc ?

a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 05:18 mircea_popescu: long story short, soviet kids integrated into youth culture faster than soviet state integrated "soviet world" ; the result was the failure of the soviet state.

mircea_popescu: purely cultural problem. how come "every mayo of fightin mass" ain't on the imaginary borders of the empire, fighting the republic ? cuz they fucking can't, lol. how would they, the republic integrates their ideological system.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899468 << the thing didn't work out, but principally owing to ustardian incompetence (they failed to pay protection money, because they think they're mussolini or some duim shit). little to do with your ideal of humanity, merely a practical application of the superiority of patriarchy. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 00:47 asciilifeform: notbad, i suppose, if troo

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899473 << "sent" my foot. he never sent any woman any place in his life, forgeddaboutit. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 00:50 asciilifeform: sent his daughter to 'journalism' (iirc) school, just so to optimize for eventual miamiization

a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 09:22 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-26#1899436 <-- no, but allcomers are allcoming and allleeching.

a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 17:57 mod6: thanks asciilifeform; the one thing that changed, other than the hashes (from sha512->keccak) in the vpatches, is in the genesis.vpatch, I removed that UTF-8 character.

a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 18:15 diana_coman: note that you'll get simply gnat with sjlj, no option to switch between zcx and sjlj i.e. --rts won't work

a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 18:17 diana_coman: I have on my conveyor first to complete and publish the full set of data zcx vs sjlj; after that I guess I'll publish the notes re building ave1's gnat too

a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 18:32 asciilifeform: ^ complete with 'speculative buffer overflow' & similar lulz.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun expect you'll want to eat the whole article, but it sums to quite a bag of lulz : can run entire proggy in the 'speculated' parallel universe, in such a way that it dun logically exist on e.g. by-the-book emulator, but only on post-2009 shitcpu

BingoBoingo: <hanbot> re my cuntoo-in': i ran bootstrap.sh, got trinque's smileyface, but then "cp: cannot stat '../config/4.9.94-apu2': No such file or directory". i'm having moar surgery tomorrow, but i'll dig into this again friday. << Let me know if you need brought back online then. I can't imagine hippos work weekends, if their build is still going on by then.

asciilifeform: hrm you defo dun want to build a kernel for a dulap-style machine with 'apu2' config

asciilifeform: ( iirc trinque's orig. prototype was for the apu2 , is why it's there )

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i read it, i read it. didn't surprise, either. "windows nt in javascript" or what was it.

mircea_popescu: there was this whole "we'll do things in javascript", it's what github lives as in my memory.

mircea_popescu: im pretty sure there's a windows emulated in javascript somewhere.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's what bellard was doing instead of tcc.

mircea_popescu: right. but -- and this is the truly painful part -- for a ~defensible~ reason. he was doing it instead of tcc ~for rms's failure to rule~.

asciilifeform: lol, even boots, but then 'Emulation aborted due to nested emulation timeout.'

asciilifeform: iirc there was a site that had this js dosbox thing, for old games, some even ran. (it's no way to live, imho, tho)

mircea_popescu: certainly not. yet -- it makes a point, specifically that the whole "natura expellas" is a problem not so much of nature but rather of the nature of the expeller.

mircea_popescu: note how "nature" aka shit fails to "make its way through the window" and still nevertheless give the woman peripueral fever even if you ~properly~ wash your hands.

mircea_popescu: in short, there's a kind of "technology" that produces recursively these sorts of nooks and crannies for "nature, by itself" to return

mircea_popescu: whereas there's also a proper technology, which does not.

mircea_popescu: very much apropos, that discussion of the error of going back on the tree, which now i can't find.

a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 15:35 mircea_popescu: the only way to have sane republic is precisely the http://trilema.com/2015/causes-and-purposes/ which specifically here means, NO CALLS BACK UP THE TREE.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know i coincidentally re-read that piece as recently as this week ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did not know. but it's a fairly basic observation, and i expect it occurs regularly to mircea_popescu & other thinking folx when seriously thinking re 'wai pc sux'

BingoBoingo: ^ Tried digesting the situation in greater depth, but speakers of Alien languages where one side pretends to do English

BingoBoingo: Serious mustache

asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf i hate to become 'thread necromancer', but would really like a resolution of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-28#1875722 & the related quandaries some time before i die of old age. plox to comment. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-11-28 16:26 phf: asciilifeform: before you agree to a decap, give me some more time to get you the docs, maybe they'll be enough to get things going. i'd hate to lose an ivory to get some pretty but useless pictures, i'd rather it fry on a breadboard in the process of directed discovery

asciilifeform: i have 3 units and xray to show precisely where to cut, and intend later this yr to start cutting !

asciilifeform: ( not today. and not tomorrow ; but asciilifeform would ~really~ not rather end up having a second http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881965 thrd ! when revving up the saw. ) ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 19:56 asciilifeform: phf: and wasn't 'week ago', but year + 3mo ago, when i took delivery of the 2 raw ivories.

asciilifeform: ( cut and then what ? then -- (trad chemical!) photography. there aint nuffin in there that's any smaller than visible wavelength. )

asciilifeform: ... with the finest-grain film available , naturally, + http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-28#1875800 . ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-11-28 19:28 mircea_popescu: you put in a violet source, take a pic. next you put in a green source, take a pic. next, yellow and red.

asciilifeform: ... after that, perhaps xray backscatter on the exposed die, or similar exotica.