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phf: i tried openbsd on it, but it wouldn't even boot. i'm pretty sure it's an issue with integrated/discrete video cards
ben_vulpes: i'm playing openbsd quest most recently, as openbsd didn't do drivers or reference implementation compilation
ben_vulpes: hey pete_dushenski you may be entertained to hear that my openbsd adventures have led me to download 10.6 and dd it onto a usb
BingoBoingo has yet to see drama overflow into openbsd-misc so dunno where it is happening
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: I only found out about the APU2 because openbsd-misc has people occasionally derping about the unfinished firmware on the new one
BingoBoingo: http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/5.7/common/022_ssh.patch.sig
phf: ben_vulpes: i'll take at look in the next few days, but one quick comment, fwiw i built it on a 32-bit openbsd. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 03:35:14; asciilifeform: i do not understand why openbsd is revered today
trinque: there was an effort to shit portage onto openbsd
asciilifeform: i do not understand why openbsd is revered today ☟︎
asciilifeform: my experience with openbsd for daily life has not been very satisfying
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i have an openbsd box here but it will not build trb, not enough ram (+swap even)
ben_vulpes: old macbook pro running openbsd 5.8
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell phf i'm still getting segfaults with your openbsd patch. care to look at bitcoind.core ?
ben_vulpes: while compiling trb either on various linux or an openbsd?
trinque: V setup works fine on openbsd
trinque: then it'd be make BUILDER=openbsd SHA512=sha512
trinque: ben_vulpes: and in fact if the buildroot step were stuck inside Makefile.rotor, it'd be trivial to have a Makefile.openbsd aside it
trinque: gabriel_laddel │ I've tried, a few times now to get a handle on linux and... << leave gentoo for dead; I couldn't be more pleased with OpenBSD.
ben_vulpes: anyways, your penchant for finding what is wrong with anything aside, openbsd happily supplants os x on mac hardware. for those willing to endure some pain to get away from the shitgnomes, and who have not been obsessively tending a gentoo installation since 1999.
ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: if you're looking for something to do with those old mac laptops, openbsd 5.8 runs like a dream on 'em
assbot: OpenBSD 5.8 on a 1999 iMac G3 (iMac,1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1OexIvD )
BingoBoingo: Things Linus surrended the ability to say https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=145082406231205&w=2
assbot: [BTC-dev] openbsd patch ... ( http://bit.ly/1kdP6EL )
mod6: shinohai: btw, i can walk you through getting an openbsd version going. you have to manually add some patches posted to the ML by 'phf'?
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 00:06:59; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> pressing of cd was perhaps the ONE good idea in openbsd <<< certainly not a bad one.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> pressing of cd was perhaps the ONE good idea in openbsd <<< certainly not a bad one. ☟︎
asciilifeform: pressing of cd was perhaps the ONE good idea in openbsd
asciilifeform: a la openbsd.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Also still on OpenBSD 5.7 don't know if 5.8's introduced new weird
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: LibreSSL node also runs with ~1GB of ram utilized at startup after last BDB locks patch because OpenBSD malloc something or other
ascii_field: 'My OpenBSD 5.7 CD arrived with a green label affixed to the shipping
ascii_field: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=144994394111508&w=2 << lulz
BingoBoingo: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=145012430522605&w=2
BingoBoingo: "Standards" https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=144987773230417&w=2
ascii_field: http://www.openbsd.org/papers/hackfest2015-pledge/mgp00035.html << win
BingoBoingo: http://www.openbsd.org/papers/hackfest2015-pledge/mgp00003.html
BingoBoingo: same thread: "Not as much as it would be if you checked out the www tree from CVS :-)" https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=144961871622930&w=2
BingoBoingo: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=144960637518617&w=2 << "But we don't care about any of those people anymore. The NSA is the only bad guy worth caring about...."
BingoBoingo: "On a personal "hate ramen noodles and tuna" level, I agree. But my good-for-project-good-for-the-world side says the OpenBSD Foundation is more effective at growing the contribution pie and in particular funding the hackathons where great work happens." - Theo De Raadt ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <trinque> why is openbsd special here? << Still has dictator who works
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> and was mircea_popescu's however-many btc for openbsd sent to the phoundation, or to de raadt ? << to whoever they wanted. what do i care.
trinque: why is openbsd special here?
BingoBoingo: Microsoft will donate all the money in the world to OpenBSD so long as no penny goes to keep Deraadt alive
ascii_field: does openbsd have a ~meaningful~ existence apart from 'what de raadt does' ?
ascii_field: and was mircea_popescu's however-many btc for openbsd sent to the phoundation, or to de raadt ?
ascii_field: trinque: back to openbsd, would you personally be willing to use an os with nonpublic source ?
trinque: how bout sell openbsd as a fucking product, you communists
assbot: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=144892124017990&w=2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1ImK6sK )
ascii_field: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=144892124017990&w=2
BingoBoingo: don't start a fresh conversation asking me to develop more tricks." https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=144892810720198&w=2
BingoBoingo: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=144891704016647&w=2
mod6: my openbsd lappy: 10:05PM up 215 days, 13:42,
mod6: <+shinohai> mod6: have you had any sucess with bsd yet ? << yeah, OpenBSD, achieved a full sync a few months back. had to patch it by hand.
asciilifeform: ended up with barely usable openbsd. 500mSec or so delay on fopen() !!! because no ram left over (from the 64M) for disk caching
deedbot-: [Bingo Blog] Notes on Building Bitcoin-qt on OpenBSD - http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2015/02/14/notes-on-building-bitcoin-qt-on-openbsd/
BingoBoingo: <punkman> https://www.qualys.com/2015/10/02/opensmtpd-audit-report.txt << Big thread on OpenBSD-misc mailing list. Only consensus is mitigated outside the daemon on OpenBSD, gentoo maintainers port it wrong, and at least it isn't sendmail
gernika: BingoBoingo any tools you use to analyze running bitcoind procs on OpenBSD?
assbot: 'Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD for my (server/router) purposes? (Total n00b)' - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1VhCSfy )
BingoBoingo: Theo is on a roll today https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=144339113818397&w=2
assbot: 'Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD for my (server/router) purposes? (Total n00b)' - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1NVsuEr )
BingoBoingo: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=144337346215265&w=2
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 19:30:42; gernika: Friend is claiming he can do a full sync in 6-8 hours using the phoundation client (non-ssd), while it took my OpenBSD box 3 weeks using eatblock. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
gernika: Friend is claiming he can do a full sync in 6-8 hours using the phoundation client (non-ssd), while it took my OpenBSD box 3 weeks using eatblock. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/LibreSSL/libressl-2.3.0-relnotes.txt << LibreSSL removes SHA-0 which is apparently still in OpenSSL
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 09:36:21; BingoBoingo: On OpenBSD (non-pogoable) the latest BDB locks fix added ~800MB of memory allocation for bitcoind
BingoBoingo: On OpenBSD (non-pogoable) the latest BDB locks fix added ~800MB of memory allocation for bitcoind ☟︎
mod6: i recently shutdown my fully sync'd openbsd node a week or two ago -- took quite a wait for it to finally exit. but i didn't keep close track of the time. could have easily been an hour though.
trinque: I built my own emacs by hand on the openbsd box I put together
trinque: openbsd + V repo of standard issue tools, and forget ports
ascii_field: for something touted as 'de-shitgnomized' unix, openbsd is uncommonly eager to pull the crud along
ascii_field: and until it builds x11 emacs without dbus and related idiocy, openbsd is WORTHLESS to me. ☟︎
trinque: openbsd kernel seems to lack all the virtualization, containerization, ...
trinque: there was a project a while back to get portage on openbsd
ascii_field: trinque: i played with openbsd for a while and then got fed up with the dependency resolver retardation.
trinque started openbsd-quest a while back
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-09-2015#1271281 << you can try all you want, i've seen mod6 's portable openbsd. so has ben_vulpes ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <punkman> I assumed "save-as" meant a button already in my browser << Of all things Chromium on OpenBSd has this along with most other browsers
phf: BingoBoingo: does it run openbsd fine?
phf: mike_c: there's a recent openbsd presentation that argues against claiming. their point is that the problem of duplicate effort is a lot rarer then lock grabs. and i must add duplicate effort always results in increased understanding if both solutions are analyzed
punkman: well here then, have 100 diffs http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=144070638327053&w=2
mircea_popescu: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=143725996614627&w=2 << this is actually a good idea.
punkman: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=143725996614627&w=2
BingoBoingo: <trinque> so when I switch to OpenBSD, they're going to announce their strategic partnership with the FBI? << iirc FBI tried the stealthy version of this around 2003 cleaned house quietly and FBI guy went full derp about it again around 2010
trinque: so when I switch to OpenBSD, they're going to announce their strategic partnership with the FBI?
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell fluffypony You know of any working OpenBSD monero builds?
mike_c: indeed there are, but methinks only one was actually excited about supporting openbsd
mike_c: ""phf [R.07] created two patches [R.08] for `stator' to build and run on OpenBSD. This is very exciting, we've been looking forward to supporting this platform for some time now." << is the the royal "we"? :)
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1244997 << my new computer came with an nVidia card which concerned me at first because OpenBSD doesn't get along with that (and confirmed myself, graphics were slow and choppy) but it turns out to work well for getting Eulora to work with gentoo ☝︎
assbot: 'openbsd 5.8 pre-orders' - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nwcj0r )
BingoBoingo: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=143999753415770&w=2 << OpenBDSM 5.8 drops early because 20th birthday
BingoBoingo: <trinque> relatedly, I have a 1 for relaxedman when he comes back. I yelled at him to *read* his way through snags with gentoo, and he did! << Promised the same for OpenBSD, but...
relaxedman: Still trying to get this gentoo install going(openbsd wouldn't support my gfx card no money to buy a new one) its n6, varia, but stuck on getting a window manager all the guides want me to change profiles. also not sure how wayland fits in any ideas?
gernika: asciilifeform: took my openbsd box 4 weeks
mircea_popescu: but it is apparent, from the apoplectic reactions, and glaring when you look at the shards together, that the same jerking around is both behind the openbsd story and the pgp story.
assbot: The OpenBSD Foundation Announces New Silver Donor: Yandex ... ( http://bit.ly/1JYuRoQ )
assbot: 'CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src' - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1KlS8wG )
jurov: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=143956261214725&w=2
gernika: FYI OpenBSD w/o db patch wedged at 367850
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 08:33:14; BingoBoingo: shinohai: I told n6 to just install OpenBSD. Then he found a guide to set up a "desktop" which convinced him to edit fstab (treat as read only). Got him to reinstall and find a saner guide. Didn't check his hardware and because Nvidia his resolution is painful. Directed to keep reading man pages.