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BingoBoingo: Ponerty: "I am a one-trick pony; most of you are happy with my trick, so please
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pete_dushenski: e-mail from private internet access : ""Dear Valued Customer, On November 17, we were privately notified of an IP address leak vulnerability affecting the port forwarding feature of our service. Essentially, anyone connecting to a forwarded port on any of our VPN gateways could have their real IP address leaked to an attacker specifically targeting a PIA user."
pete_dushenski: " The vulnerability relies on the fact that a direct route exists between the VPN client and server. If the client accesses a forwarded port on the VPN server that is maliciously set up by an attacker, the client will use the direct route using the user's default route, bypassing the VPN entirely."
pete_dushenski: "Protecting your privacy is our top priority and although exploiting this vulnerability is difficult and requires an attacker to specifically target you, we feel like we let you down with our initial response. Please accept our apologies, we are sorry."
pete_dushenski: not like vpn's are good for much but working around paywalls and geo-locationtardation anyways.
trinque: that'll be my next retort to someone against guns.
trinque: relax! it's only dangerous if it specifically targets you
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BingoBoingo: Update: "I was wrong. the CD revenue is far less. The cashier makes more." - Theo de Raadt
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ben_vulpes: "The neutralitie o this airticle is disputit."
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punkman: so the ersatz EZTV guys now also working on ersatz YIFY
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assbot: Arthur Hayes of BitMEX: Chinese Exchanges Are Operating As Shadow Banks - Bitcoin Markets Guide - Top BTC Futures Exchanges ... (
http://bit.ly/1Os3tSg )
punkman: " the safe deposits which pay 3-5% APY are not enough to cover the basic costs of the business. Thus, they must be investing in 10-20% higher yielding "Wealth Management Products""
BingoBoingo: Didn't YIFY sign their papers and settle with MPAA?
punkman: " a group named Armada Collective had demanded 700 btc"
punkman: possibly same guys that hit ProtonMail
punkman: greek papers are attributing as "Russian-backed Armada Collective"
trinque: scottish ebonics has its own pediwikia
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know i can spot your troll accoutns by a mile by now
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah, getting too obvious.
BingoBoingo: Need to farm Carma in more varied subs, if to be serious engineer de social
punkman: "Blockchain, blockchain, blockchain! It’s not the bitcoin anymore, right? Right (probably.) Join me at Disrupt London where I’ll be talking to Steve Waterhouse of Pantera Capital, Vitalik Buterin of Ethereum, and Austin Hill of BlockSteam. If anyone can make sense of the blockchain vs. bitcoin argument, it’s these guys."
☟︎ ben_vulpes: terminal periods outside of parentheses please
mircea_popescu: except there's no argument and who the fuck are these schmucks again ?
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punkman: mircea_popescu: except there's no argument and who the fuck are these schmucks again ? << my caption for the gif
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punkman: "We are committed to making participation in this project a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of level of experience, gender, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age, religion, or nationality."
punkman: "This code of conduct applies both within project spaces and in public spaces when an individual is representing the project or its community."
kakobrekla: speaking of con(f)s, at the 'Finance Magnates London Summit 2015' there was a single talk canceled due to 'unforeseen circumstances'; RECODING FINANCE – BLOCKCHAIN with Peter Randal, CEO of SETL
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ben_vulpes: love love love the not taken together at all in a million years set of headshots and bios scrolling by at lightspeed
ben_vulpes: oh god the rounded corners and brand endorsement segment
kakobrekla: i admit i havent bothered checking it myself.
ben_vulpes: "lived experience" not mattering a whit in contributions
ben_vulpes: "no listen, we're super inclusive. get yourself a gpg key, get in the wot, read the logs, submit a patch, and we'll talk about it."
ben_vulpes: that this is too much trouble for anyone but a vanishingly tiny fraction of people is totally lost on the outside world.
ben_vulpes: another hilarious thing is that apparently that medium author doesn't know how to make a hyperlink
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Butt, butt... that medium page only uses 9 lines of something resembling html when you view source...
punkman: arew those the uv-erasable eproms?
kakobrekla: neat, last time i saw those was in 286 or so
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: note the giant blob of json in the middle
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Sure, but does it count in lynx?
assbot: Logged on 01-12-2015 04:34:00; punkman: "Blockchain, blockchain, blockchain! It’s not the bitcoin anymore, right? Right (probably.) Join me at Disrupt London where I’ll be talking to Steve Waterhouse of Pantera Capital, Vitalik Buterin of Ethereum, and Austin Hill of BlockSteam. If anyone can make sense of the blockchain vs. bitcoin argument, it’s these guys."
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 18:10:40; trinque: ahaha I just got an e-mail from "pantera capital" addressed to [FirstName] inviting me to apply for funding.
ben_vulpes: but this is another undiscoverable entry in the great "mircea_popescu discovers how the kids are doing things today" saga
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gribble: Error: "sleep" is not a valid command.
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ben_vulpes: "Many women are never raped, most women who are raped experience it only a handful of times, but in a sense it doesn't matter because the threats are constant, and women are trained to live in a state of hypervigilance of these threats"
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adlai: from a sufficiently detached cis-privileged cynicism, this reads as "the only thing you have to fear is fear itself"
adlai: twas worth venturing thru the esr turd to emerge on the other side with "“Social Justice” has reached a sort of Poe’s Law singularity at which the behavior of trolls and true believers becomes indistinguishable even to each other"
ben_vulpes: "when nothing more than a (privately administered) slap on the wrist was ever done to let everyone in the department know" << oh now they want public humiliation
mircea_popescu: who has the authority to distribute "slaps on the wrist" again ?
ben_vulpes: goes back to the moldbuggian "no authority *or* responsiblity in uni!" routine
mircea_popescu: in all psychosis, the interesting parts are always "what the psychotic subject fails to notice"
mircea_popescu: who exactly told random nobody that he's to be "slap wrists" ? "the beoble" ?
mircea_popescu: "our critique of structurally established, historically stable hierarchies is to replace them with a half baked, ad hoc, buggy, half-reimplementation" "why ?" "because it's easier to write than to read."
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adlai: shame, even coinbrlive is a victim of dns tardation
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gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)
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gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 361.25, Best ask: 361.26, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 361.26, 24 hour volume: 46993.1969887, 24 hour low: 353.1, 24 hour high: 380.49, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 34 @ 0.03131884 = 1.0648 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: and from the lulz dept, "Tome un blokium flex, pero se me corto de golpe el periodo, cosa no común, dado que nunca tube problemas cn mi periodo que me puede haber ocurrido??"
mircea_popescu: "Oklahoma Wesleyan is not a safe place, but rather, a place to learn: to learn that life isnt about you, but about others; that the bad feeling you have while listening to a sermon is called guilt; that the way to address it is to repent of everything thats wrong with you rather than blame others for everything thats wrong with them. This is a place where you will quickly learn that you need to grow up.
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adlai: deedbot-: good morning
adlai: "Bad URL or sunshine outage"
adlai: it's not a waste of time, it's a 'student project'
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pete_dushenski: www.nytimes.com/2015/11/30/world/middleeast/predatory-islamic-state-wrings-money-from-those-it-rules.html << because only tewowists imposes taxes mkay !
mircea_popescu: let me know when there's "those it rules" so desperate at the wringing of money they fly planes into isis irs headquarters
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pete_dushenski: "“They fight in the morning and they tax in the afternoon,” said Louise Shelley, the director of the Terrorism, Transnational Crime and Corruption Center at George Mason University." << this is apparently incomprehensible to the american mind. "whaddya mean there's a time of day when they don't tax ?"
pete_dushenski: 'trans' centre : needs renaming for moar fairness, less cis privilege
pete_dushenski: "In Raqqa, the Syrian city that is now the de facto capital of the Islamic State, a department called Diwan al-Khadamat, or the Office of Services, sends officials through the city markets to collect a cleaning tax — 2,500 to 5,000 Syrian pounds, or about $7 to $14, per month depending on the size of the shop. Residents go to collection points to pay their monthly electricity and water bills, 800 Syrian pounds
☟︎ pete_dushenski: , or roughly $2.50 for electricity and 400 pounds, about $1.20, for water." << in which 'westerners' salivate over such meagre state imposition
mircea_popescu: this pretense that say france is a country because holy usg says it's a country, while isis is not a country because louise shelley acts as if it weren't...
mircea_popescu: hey, check it out, isis charges about the same tax tmsr charges.
pete_dushenski: "The Islamic State also demands a cut of the revenues earned by small businesses. “We either pay in olive oil or cash, it depends on the production,”" << altcoins accepted for taxes too !!!1
pete_dushenski: "Officials of the so-called caliphate dislike the term “tax,” preferring the Islamic term “zakat,” which refers to the alms Muslims are required to pay." << eerie similarity, neh.
pete_dushenski: lmao 'soi-dissant caliphate' but not 'soi-dissant nation of england' ?
pete_dushenski: "But in the long run, according to American officials, the surest way to significantly restrict the group’s finances will be to retake territory it controls, something that has been painstakingly slow so far, despite thousands of airstrikes." << waitwut airstrikes are hugely ineffective ?
assbot: Logged on 22-11-2015 23:43:08; mircea_popescu: here's a primer on airstrike efficiency : the brits did 7 (SEVEN!) mid-air refuellings for one of their rustbuckets to manage to drop ONE bomb on the one runway in the faulklands, "disabling" it
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assbot: Logged on 01-12-2015 17:01:57; pete_dushenski: "In Raqqa, the Syrian city that is now the de facto capital of the Islamic State, a department called Diwan al-Khadamat, or the Office of Services, sends officials through the city markets to collect a cleaning tax — 2,500 to 5,000 Syrian pounds, or about $7 to $14, per month depending on the size of the shop. Residents go to collection points to pay their monthly electricity and water bills, 800 S
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ascii_field: the one they made 100 american prisoners write in own blood on camera ?
adlai saw a great gif today, |S|S becomes a dollar and back again
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ascii_field: 'All antiquities, moved statues and unprocessed gold bullions are to be confiscated in the event that they are being passed through the border areas towards Turkey. And the confiscated goods are to be referred to the Diwan al-Rikaz office in the wilaya.... In the name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful ... The bearer of this document is permitted to procure equipment to search for gold and register it in the Diwan
ben_vulpes: lmk when his lizardness does anything like that
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ascii_field: 'Never during the cold war, nor in any of the subsequent US wars, did US companies have difficulty recruiting or retaining the hundreds of thousands of scientists and engineers engaged in building weapons systems. Universities like my own were happy to add their support; the University of California would, for decades, run the USA's nuclear weapons design laboratories. In nearly 20 years advising
ascii_field: students at my university, I have observed that a wish for right livelihood almost never figures into the employment decisions of undergraduate computer science students. And this isn't unique to computer scientists: of the five most highly ranked websites I found on a Google search of deciding among job offers, not one suggests considering the institutional goals of the employer or the social worth of what they
ascii_field: 'Of course it hasn't escaped the notice of intelligence agencies that the vast majority of the academic cryptographic community is unthreateningly engaged. In a declassified trip-report about Eurocrypt 1992, the NSA author opines, for example: 'There were no proposals of cryptosystems, no novel cryptanalysis of old designs, even very little on hardware design. I really don't see how things could have
ascii_field: 'The NSA's newsletter in which this report appears would never again mention that academic cryptographic community. Nor did any released Snowden-derived document discuss anything of our community. It's as though we progressed from a band of philosophers worth a few pages of snarky commentary to an assemblage too insignificant even for that.'
ascii_field: 'In a 2012 newsletter column, NSA's SIGINT Philosopher, Jacob Weber, tells us his vision. After failing an NSA lie-detector test, he says: 'I found myself wishing that my life would be constantly and completely monitored. It might seem odd that a self-professed libertarian would wish an Orwellian dystopia on himself, but here was my rationale: If people knew a few things about me, I might seem
ascii_field: suspicious. But if people knew everything about me, they'd see they had nothing to fear. This is the attitude I have brought to SIGINT work since then.''
ascii_field: 'Dan Bernstein speaks of interesting crypto and boring crypto. Interesting crypto is crypto that supports plenty of academic papers. Boring crypto is crypto that simply works, solidly resists attacks, [and] never needs any upgrades." Dan asks, in his typically flippant way, 'What will happen if the crypto users convince some crypto researchers to actually create boring crypto? No more
ascii_field: real-world attacks. No more emergency upgrades. Limited audience for any minor attack improvements and for replacement crypto. This is an existential threat against future crypto research.' If this is boring crypto, I think we should go make some.'
trinque: this is a particularly lulzy american myth, that one only seeks power/control out of fear
ascii_field: trinque: typical bureaucrat folk seek only the holy trinity of mortgage, 'health,' and 'dental.
☟︎ ascii_field: not really any different from, e.g., a bulldozerist
ascii_field: who will just as readily move corpses as dirt, if paid
ascii_field: '...there is now a mountain of work on secure-messaging, but it's unclear what most of it actually ~does.~'
ascii_field: very lulzy paper, poor academitard has half a brain, more than most of his colleagues certainly; understands that he and the rest are PAID TO SPAM - but doesn't see whatever could be the reason why his field is largely dross...
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ascii_field: meanwhile, far from the well-fed world of academitardia,
ascii_field: 'These days the CD revenue is about what a cashier at a store makes. It seems to keep shrinking, but I will try to keep doing it unless it nears zero; at which point the artwork will stop also.'
ascii_field: evidently the set of folks 'happy with the pony trick' does not include anybody with spare change.
☟︎ ascii_field: perhaps mircea_popescu oughta ask ben_vulpes to offer de raadt some wwwdev wurk.
☟︎ trinque: how bout sell openbsd as a fucking product, you communists
trinque: give source too; it's a separate question
ascii_field: trinque: care to describe for my enlightenment ?
ascii_field: does it entail forbidding redistribution and republication ?
trinque: don't various lisp shops sell licenses but provide source?
trinque: if the market doesn't want nice things they don't exist; that is a cultural problem
ascii_field: and they did not 'sell the product', this is a mistaken perception, they sold ~support contracts~
ascii_field: with serious commitment on both sides of the signing table.
trinque: sounds like these things can't exist outside a WoT.
ascii_field: not a de raadt, certainly, but somebody who, imho, was a net plus sorta fella
jurov: kakobrekla: why? f.mpif did trade last month
ascii_field: trinque: the serious commitment thing existed when there was a population of serious people doing serious things with one another, supported by an actual economy with serious money circulating
ascii_field: incidentally, afaik the last lisp co. to actually offer the source code this way was lispworks,
ascii_field: which was acquired by xanalys, a usg surveillanceatronics co.
ascii_field: who, likely, were simply tired of paying royalties on the runtime (yes!)
ascii_field: and decided to simply devour the tool vendor
ascii_field: aaaactually now that i recall it was franz who charged royalties
ascii_field: but it is conceivable that xanalys was tired of paying for dev runtimes, which were expensive
☟︎ ascii_field: the concept of ~paying for~ a programming system is - like it or not - unpalatable to most folks, incl. what remains of 'serious business'
trinque: if lispworks was in such a weak position that one client could purchase them in this manner, good for both parties.
ascii_field: my point was that it was in a weak position ~for a reason~
phf: re "sell services give away code", clozure associates (ccl people) recently laid off a bunch of their devs. including such heavyweights as rme and gbyers. presumably because like ascii said, nobody's buying
☟︎ trinque: this is not a problem that can be solved on the end of a lispworks
ascii_field: even microshit gives away their compiler today
phf: note that ccl is used internally by google now, after they acquired ITA. only way to get money out of goog is presumably acquihire
ascii_field: trinque: back to openbsd, would you personally be willing to use an os with nonpublic source ?
trinque: I would run something with source disclosed to me and those in my WoT
trinque: and don't care about public
ascii_field: trinque: my understanding is that qnx license includes (for a serious bag of dough) the source.
ascii_field: pretty spiffy commercial unix incidentally.
ascii_field: (runs, or at least at one point ran, a few reactors)
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trinque: Access to QNX source code is free, but commercial deployments of QNX Neutrino runtime components still require royalties, and commercial developers will continue to pay for QNX Momentics® development seats. However, noncommercial developers, academic faculty members, and qualified partners will be given access to QNX development tools and runtime products at no charge.
phf: franz and lispworks both do source disclosure. i'm pretty sure the only way franz survives is by having ridiculously low overheads, combined with aggressive licensing policy about their technology, some of which doesn't have any equivalents in the open market.
trinque: aside from the WoT aspect this is exactly what I proposed
trinque: and how is qnx doing financially?
trinque: that was a purchase, correct?
trinque: how were they doing before
trinque: nobody invented the fucking air
ascii_field: wai wut i missed the memo, we're paying inventors for things now ?
trinque: not them, but the companies that own them
ascii_field: trinque: did you send your cheque to SCO yet ?
trinque: blackberry bought them to have something that *makes money*
trinque: this is nonsense; people pay for technology every day
trinque: that the software field was overrun by communists notwithstanding
ascii_field: at any rate, i would not mind living in the 1980s world where serious folks bought support contracts for serious os, etc
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trinque: ascii_field: yep, what makes for a growing and healthy software industry may not be possible on this side of things.
trinque: but I'm not going to base the definition of that on "microshit does X"
trinque: whether we live in walmartia or not
ascii_field: trinque: microshit, and the few and feeble weapons which have been built to put up some sort of fight against it, entirely demolished the 'healthy commercial software' thing
ascii_field: i don't personally expect to live to see it come back in any recognizable form.
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: can't help but wonder how much he was ~actually~ testing his OCR's defects.
BingoBoingo: Well, for that you test with single sided dice.
assbot: FBI's "Suicide Letter" to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and the Dangers of Unchecked Surveillance | Electronic Frontier Foundation ... (
http://bit.ly/1ImOTKV )
jurov: what about adding a debiasing mechanism to dice? it would measure the statistics and try to correct by moving internal weight around
jurov: rfid would be better fit ;D
trinque: needs to be able to flash the firmware too; what if we shipped a bug
adlai: soon enough, casinos are required to have debiasing dice, and put their data dumps in deedbot-
adlai: because provable transparency
adlai: er 'provably fair'
BingoBoingo: six sided dice are fair enough. 20 is inherently unstable like their users.
jurov: also, the dice must detect presence of mentally challenged persons and adjust accordingly
adlai: but this is unfair, siliconkin telekinesis witches can fool the biasing circuits in their favor
jurov: i'd like to see your one-sided dice. something like riemann surface comes to mind
jurov: er... klein bottle
BingoBoingo: One sided dice are used all the time at the poker table
kakobrekla: jurov that line does not say 'it will stay down forever'
jurov: okay i was overly dramatic. but .ws is not there, that's all
kakobrekla: if its not coming back in a reasonable time i will change it. perhaps mp will clear this up.
☟︎ jurov: it relates nicely to yest discussion... everyone just comes here to dump their mind
jurov: info like mpex proxies belongs to wiki or some other discoverable place. but ppl refuse to put it there
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11457 @ 0.00052383 = 6.0015 BTC [+] {2}
ascii_field: 'Providing strong funding for FHE and iO provides risk-free political cover. It supports a storyline that cloud storage and computing is safe. It helps entrench favored values within the cryptographic community: speculative, theory-centric directions. And it helps keep harmless academics who could, if they got feisty, start to innovate in more sensitive directions.'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6332 @ 0.00051664 = 3.2714 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: it that why ussr/russia won't fund the real thing, either?
ascii_field: jurov: su state of the art re: crypto, as far as i can tell, was ~deadly boring~ - good ol' vernam otp
ascii_field: just as perfect (or 'unusable', take your pick) today as it was in 1918.
ascii_field: i recently bought an interesting monograph re: sov crypto 1930s-1950s
ascii_field: very interesting in the 'orc' perspective - military folk did not trust (largely correctly!) their cipher machines and remote communication in general.
ascii_field: ('serious' crypto was strictly otp in su lands, as it is today. field crypto was, often, 19th c.-style transposition derpery, relying largely on the very short useful life of the message to avoid being broken)
adlai: jurov: 'live' charts are still dead
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00051089 = 2.6822 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00051089 = 6.4372 BTC [-]
ascii_field is rather curious re: what adlai thinks he is doing
adlai: base64 dont cut it now?
ascii_field: adlai: does this one tell us where the gold is buried ?
ascii_field: because if so i might be willing to spend a little more time on it
ascii_field: '...if you look at the recently discovered back door installs that happened during the Olympics under the guise of helping secure the system that this also provides pretty open access to corporations in the US for the same type of subterfuge. Free security scanning all for the low price of a well placed back door.'
assbot: Logged on 01-12-2015 18:59:12; ascii_field: evidently the set of folks 'happy with the pony trick' does not include anybody with spare change.
adlai: funny that you mention it, but cleartext actually does attempt rainbow triangulation
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24968 @ 0.00051383 = 12.8293 BTC [+]
ascii_field: BingoBoingo, mircea_popescu, et al : does anyone else find that krebsonsecurity refuses to load from archive.is ?
☟︎☟︎ ascii_field: i suspect now that krebs has it iptable-banned
ascii_field: and it would be interesting to learn what he has to say for himself.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6010 @ 0.00052042 = 3.1277 BTC [+]
adlai: !up thestringpuller
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46003 @ 0.00051345 = 23.6202 BTC [-] {6}
adlai is doing deeds, isn't that how they're supposed to verb?
ascii_field: 'HELP! he cried, but no one seemed to hear / "You just solve these equations, then you're free!"' << notbad.jpg
adlai: !s theorems to prove
adlai: erdos (aside from being cis white male etc etc) also had the priviledge of /choice/
adlai: literally too, but that's not the point
adlai: jules (samueL jackson's char in pulp fiction) would've killed to walk like erdos
punkman: there's another puzzle in the deeds with some future-gold. would buy you about a bag of coal right now.
adlai: well deedbot pisses gold dust if you hold the sieve just right
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27643 @ 0.00050861 = 14.0595 BTC [-] {3}
shinohai: adlai: anything will give you gold if you hold the sieve correctly.
punkman: BingoBoingo: six sided dice are fair enough. 20 is inherently unstable like their users. << I wonder why nobody's selling loaded 20sided dice
trinque: adlai: enjoy your cheeseburger
punkman: are edible gold flakes halal?
trinque: adlai: I assume you have been verifying the deeds by picking up the dust
ascii_field: 'Marginalized people also suffer some of the unintended consequences of dogmatic insistence on meritocratic principles of governance. Studies have show that organizational cultures that value meritocracy often result in greater inequality. People with "merit" are often excused for their bad behavior in public spaces based on the value of their technical contributions. Meritocracy also naively assumes a level playing
☟︎ ascii_field: field, in which everyone has access to the same resources, free time, and common life experiences to draw upon. These factors and more make contributing to open source a daunting prospect for many people, especially women and other underrepresented people. (For more critical analysis of meritocracy, refer to this entry on the Geek Feminism wiki.)' << from ben_vulpes's link
ascii_field: can hardly wait till this merges with what's left of gpl and turns into a 'viral license' or whatnot
trinque: the inevitability of this is undeniable
shinohai: as for halal ... lamb chops on the grille tonite
ascii_field: mircea_popescu just saved a good 10 secondz!
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: however, the site had a handy list of derps who caved and signed the oath.
trinque: looks like a bunch of already irrelevant JS and Ruby garbage
mircea_popescu: and in a global market for picking cotton americans stand out.
mircea_popescu: the ~5 or so people who can code weren't born here. the rest can't do change in their head.
ben_vulpes: rates in ars are only ~20% below those in michigan, and that doesn't even start to include cost of doing business with argentines.
mircea_popescu: slaves only. i have nfi what one'd have to have for skull filler to "do business" with argentines.
ascii_field: Atom, AngularJS, angular-formly, Babel, Bundler, chef-rvm, Diaspora, Eclipse, Elixir, Exercism.io, GitLab, HaskellNow.org, Homebrew-Cask, Jekyll, Lotus, Mensa, Monsti CMS, Mozilla Webmaker, Rails, ROM, RSpec, ruby-community, RubyGems.org, RVM, Shoes, Spree, TinyMCE, Volt.rb'
ben_vulpes: you'd probably pay them what they think they're worth
ascii_field: ^ i've only ever ~heard~, much less seen alive, a few of these
ben_vulpes: anyways in "us becoming argentina" nyooz, today for the first time in my life a coffee shop failed to produce exact change
ben_vulpes: note: not /haskell/ but /haskellnow.org/
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: software projects / orgs. i can't be arsed to produce the human names
mircea_popescu: dude you gotta be kidding me, three fat chicks in colorado made up a bunch of strings and now you're quoting them at me ?
trinque: everything I recognize in that list is a pile of useless shit
jurov: adlai: coinbrlive is on, with bonus hacky multiple mpex proxies support to make everyone's eyes bleed moar
mircea_popescu: rubygems.org sounds like a sort of expert sexchange thing\
ben_vulpes: jurov: cool! any arbportunities across the proxies?
ben_vulpes: "rubygems is down, can't deploy today"
ascii_field: and 'eclipse' is a kludgy text editor thing, i used it at uni once
ascii_field: (and then again a few years ago, it was built into a proprietary software turd)
jurov: ben_vulpes: only if find out how to arbitrage clock time
adlai: !up thestringpuller
adlai: thestringpuller: yes
ben_vulpes: jurov: i've got these quantum bitcoins that might work in arbing the proxies
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> i suspect now that krebs has it iptable-banned << I've noticed a few other sites seem to offer archive.is null as well
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes hysterical story : one of my sluts went to "free drama class" organised by some argentine. derp refused to give her the reading material claiming the first class is just a social call.
mircea_popescu: who then proceeded to a) have them read some inept turdball he DIDNT HAVE COPIES OF and b) demand $300 from participants
ascii_field: 'Argentina's president has blocked the extradition of a Denver fugitive who claims he was framed for murder because video he took of ground zero proves U.S. complicity in the 9/11 terrorist attacks.' << lulzy
mircea_popescu: bonus points, she doesn't wear panties and the thing involved a lot of bending over.
mircea_popescu: which was the first time anyone in the dumb country ever saw someone else's cunt, seeing how, well... they don't do the cunt thing here.
ben_vulpes: catholics. only good thing about catholics are catholic school girls.
mircea_popescu: by and large, argentines aren't qualified to be mexicans.
ben_vulpes: "oh, you're going to send your daughter to st. mary's? awesome! i knew a bunch of girls from there in HS."
ascii_field: 'Sonnenfeld called 911 dispatchers in the early morning of Jan. 1, 2002, a few months after the terror attacks, claiming that his wife had shot herself in the head. Denver police, believing the scene was staged, arrested Sonnenfeld that morning. But prosecutors in the office of former Denver District Attorney Bill Ritter, who later became governor, dismissed the charges several months later because of insufficient
ascii_field: evidence at the time. The following year, murder charges were refiled ...'
mircea_popescu: "hackers" my foot. do you know how many people that are "bitcoin traders" EVEN KNOW what pgp is ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes they do have problems being the only naked person in the room, at least for the first week or so.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, the advantage of imbecility : doesn't remember anything for too long.
ben_vulpes: i wasn't playing those games at that age
ascii_field: the way mircea_popescu describes his town, one could almost conclude he is in africa ?
ben_vulpes: tango lesson wasn't worth the twenty bucks either in retrospect.
mircea_popescu: how else do you explain all the chinese swarming the place.
ben_vulpes: shoulda just gone and humiliated myself at the milonga
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i dunno why you'd even consider taking "lessons" from an outfit that has a) < 20 females and b) average age over 20.
mircea_popescu: you wanna run a dancery, better beg rob or pay some women to be there.
ben_vulpes: because i had limited time and was drinking with the asshats all the other days?
ben_vulpes doesn't dance in places like that at home
mircea_popescu: i can't be arsed to read a nyt piece. so what, the pirelli calendar can't compete with internet porn, is going to no longer display nudity ?
punkman: "EkoParty began as a small gathering of Argentine hackers who exchanged their discoveries over the web. Today, hundreds of Argentine hackers, ranging from 14 to 45 years old, line up around the block to show off their skills to executives from Silicon Valley start-ups like Synack, a security company, as well as more established consulting firms like Deloitte"
assbot: Logged on 01-12-2015 18:23:26; ascii_field: where were you imbeciles when we phuctored ?
mircea_popescu: punkman right. they make a decent show of being whores, except they then want to be paid for status not for work.
assbot: Logged on 01-12-2015 18:39:12; ascii_field: trinque: typical bureaucrat folk seek only the holy trinity of mortgage, 'health,' and 'dental.
mircea_popescu: they don't seek "mortgage, health and dental". they seek to be "free to dedicate themselves to intellectual work, as they define it".
ben_vulpes: what, do people not make friends with dentists?
mircea_popescu: i went for a checkup and never wanted to fucking leave cca 2013
assbot: Logged on 01-12-2015 19:00:24; ascii_field: perhaps mircea_popescu oughta ask ben_vulpes to offer de raadt some wwwdev wurk.
ben_vulpes: dude wwwdev is a fraction of the throughput
ascii_field: worse, iirc he permitted some monkey to shit in it in his place
assbot: Logged on 01-12-2015 19:11:26; phf: re "sell services give away code", clozure associates (ccl people) recently laid off a bunch of their devs. including such heavyweights as rme and gbyers. presumably because like ascii said, nobody's buying
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would you sell access ? who are these schmucks that they may buy ?
mircea_popescu: you don't sell. you cut a deal with ONE competitor in a field, and that's that. the rest all die because they can't deploy computers that work.
ascii_field: --'hi, i'm selling computer that works.' --'does it run msoffice?' --'...' --[click]
mircea_popescu: advertisement : are you tired of wasting your time in queues at Shitty Supermarkets ? So move on to TMSR Supermarkets - their computer systems don't die every other hour for half an hour.
ascii_field: presently i'm not convinced that any computer uses really... wants to live, all that much. wake me up when uranium centrifuge no longer runs winblowz, i might reconsider this theory
mircea_popescu: they sell the store to TMSR Supermarkets. at a discount.
mircea_popescu: and if you don't have them you're not a person and your death won't be prosecutable. and that's that.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: this is a logical picture, but how does vendor amortize the cost of producing the magic ?
assbot: Logged on 01-12-2015 19:48:16; kakobrekla: if its not coming back in a reasonable time i will change it. perhaps mp will clear this up.
ascii_field: iirc the miner asic projects that did straight-and-honest shares - flopped; the scumbags who took preorders and mined with the machines for months, years - won.
ascii_field: but i could be mistaken, wasn't fully awake for this mess
mircea_popescu: ascii_field nah. the only one that won actually had shares (asicminer). the rest all flopped. especially the scumbags.
ascii_field: wasn't it a 'permanent mining bond' scamatron ?
assbot: Logged on 01-12-2015 21:38:21; mircea_popescu: the chinese ain't selling jack.
assbot: Logged on 01-12-2015 21:43:17; mircea_popescu: they can't have it for any price
ascii_field: eventually the scum do what it takes to be rid of you and take your $tech by force
ascii_field: sorta a rehash of the 'intellectual property' wank. inanimate objects, once you're done making them, don't have a 'will' to propagate your intent, whatever it was, when you made them
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla anyway, redirects re-added. i wouldn't reallty expect them to work, seeing how namecheap, but anyway. im not renewing .bz or .ws because the new registrar doesn't carry them
ascii_field: american cpu is just as happy to be reverse-engineered by a ru schmuck as it is to calculate payroll for chrysler
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: edison's heirs do not control film industry today
mircea_popescu: fucktards can';t even be arsed to KNOW phuctor exists ?
mircea_popescu: and the few and far between people who can actually do things are NOT going to want to be with us ? but prefer to serve the fuctard empire ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i'm pretty sure they ~knew~ of it. the ignorance was ~studied indifference~
mircea_popescu: looky : it's not JUST that i can't give less of a shit what the wash-popo writes
mircea_popescu: it's that the whole fucking shebang of idiots can be safely ignored.
mircea_popescu: all they'll do about it is whine. "oh this projector is not user friendly"
mircea_popescu: o yeah ? tell your mother being ugly is no excuse to fuck drunks.
ascii_field would much like to live on the planet where they can be safely ignored. yes, i hear it's a nice place, good climate, hot chixx
mircea_popescu: who're they gonna want to tell all about it ? me or president bahamas ?
ascii_field: as described in mircea_popescu's 'problem of too much money' mega-article
mircea_popescu: they aren't harmless to you because you're addicted to your dental.
ascii_field: but of the muppets' collective ability to destroy entire fields by skewing incentives
mircea_popescu: it has this in common with all the OTHER things thart were never made.
ascii_field: aha because nobody, sane or otherwise, wants to pay the $1m/each.
ascii_field: what is this aristotelian claptrap. i can readily describe the exact cause of, say, absence of icicle on the surface of the sun.
mircea_popescu: stick to explaining the absence of "real" enemies of usg as well as the absence of non-white swans.
ascii_field: ^ does this actually display on anybody's terminal ?
mircea_popescu: god damned it if i wanted 3pt cartouches i'd have learned egyptian
jurov: yes, i see it fine
jurov: mircea_popescu: what about submitting symbols for sexual positions
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: pretty sure eg hieroglyphs ~are~ in unicode presently
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40900 @ 0.00050982 = 20.8516 BTC [-] {4}
jurov: if you would at least review the list
assbot: Logged on 01-12-2015 20:20:24; ascii_field: evidently meant as a riddle for us
ascii_field will admit that he thinks about it with some regularity, but will not claim to have a correct solution
assbot: Logged on 01-12-2015 20:26:34; ascii_field: BingoBoingo, mircea_popescu, et al : does anyone else find that krebsonsecurity refuses to load from archive.is ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: though my brother laughed when i described it, but would not say moar
mircea_popescu enjoys a good riddle, especially when he's on the right end of it.
ascii_field: with a great deal of 'mainstream media' exposure
jurov: ;;later tell pete_dushenski is that ...err.. something visible in the third pic?
ascii_field: i'm a bit confused.... where did the $0.5M donated by microshit go ?
ascii_field: and was mircea_popescu's however-many btc for openbsd sent to the phoundation, or to de raadt ?
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> that has nothing to do with the author? << Yes
BingoBoingo: Foundation that pays for hackathons and such. Developer rent and food, no.
pete_dushenski: "Yes, 20BTC would definately have you listed as a significant foundation contributor on our contributions page, assuming you wanted to be listed there."
ascii_field: does openbsd have a ~meaningful~ existence apart from 'what de raadt does' ?
ascii_field: or, to put the question differently, what do all the non-de-raadt folks whose rent and food ARE paid for by the donations, do for the project ?
BingoBoingo: My impression is that Foundation pays pretty much anything that can be billed like power, conference hotels, conference food though it pointedly does not offer anyone $x as compensation in the name of not starving.
ascii_field: all i can see is de raadt's 'almost about to work as cashier' thing
BingoBoingo: Basically the hotels make rent and food from Foundation
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> all i can see is de raadt's 'almost about to work as cashier' thing << YEs
ascii_field: supposing he's telling the truth, this answers my question.
BingoBoingo: plowing flied, "donors have come to expect"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10136 @ 0.00051371 = 5.207 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: Microsoft will donate all the money in the world to OpenBSD so long as no penny goes to keep Deraadt alive
BingoBoingo supposes Deraadt could turn residence into "conference venue" host open ended hackathon, but then the charityrastas would be like "imprudent
trinque: fucktarded opensource foundations do not work, news at 11
trinque: why is openbsd special here?
ascii_field: trinque: in no sense special, it is illustrative of a particular thing imho
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> and was mircea_popescu's however-many btc for openbsd sent to the phoundation, or to de raadt ? << to whoever they wanted. what do i care.
BingoBoingo: <trinque> why is openbsd special here? << Still has dictator who works
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> all i can see is de raadt's 'almost about to work as cashier' thing << and having EARNED it, too.,
trinque: dictator with no grain, eh?
jurov: i'm curious how will thebitcoinfoundation fare up. so far looks like it will never ever spend anything :D
ascii_field: jurov: i vaguely recall there were talks of you folks renting a box somewhere
mircea_popescu: somehow a bunch of [mostly white] kids bought into this theory that "intelligence" as they define it is worth two shits.
adlai: tbf doesn't have to spend anything to add value
adlai: it's already performing a role as a little capacitor on the profit release valve
ascii_field: 'Our Directors are: Ken Westerback, Toronto ON Daniel Boulet, Sherwood Park AB' << i don't see a de raadt
mircea_popescu: it came from "i'm an imbecile and instead of doing good work i'll pretend like google and microshit is paying me"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00052314 = 10.2012 BTC [+] {3}
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: for my education, describe what a smart de raadt would've done
mircea_popescu: showed up, had a chat with mod6 as to how to work together.
pete_dushenski: "Daniel Boulet, Sherwood Park AB" << heh. sherwood park is a suburb of edmonton. i should go throw eggs at this dude's house.
mircea_popescu: imagine. fucktard has a once in a lifetime moment and not even the marginal intellectual curiosity of getting voiced.
mircea_popescu: even hookers have more fucking intelligence than this.
assbot: Logged on 01-12-2015 20:59:33; ascii_field: 'Marginalized people also suffer some of the unintended consequences of dogmatic insistence on meritocratic principles of governance. Studies have show that organizational cultures that value meritocracy often result in greater inequality. People with "merit" are often excused for their bad behavior in public spaces based on the value of their technical contributions. Meritocracy also naively assumes a
mircea_popescu: the whole fucking point is to marginalize the worthless to death. this is what public spaces are : places where the worthless are made to feel their worthlessness.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: thinking about it, that turd simply has to be a troll job
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> what's de raadt's day job anyway << Trying not to cashier yet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16621 @ 0.00051665 = 8.5872 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: i was (and still am) at a lost as to what, if anything, he has to do with the derps who took the money
mircea_popescu: "According to the SECs civil complaint, Homero Joshua Garza and his companies, GAW Miners and ZenMiner, sold more than 10,000 "investment contracts representing shares in the profits they claimed would be generated from using their purported computing power to mine for virtual currency.""
assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.000209 / 0.000209 / 0.000209 (30000 shares, 6.27 BTC)
ben_vulpes: in other news, there is now a 'Chef' for mobile phones.
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: His crumbs largely consist of travel he could not otherwise undertake as miser to said "hackathons" it seems
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: if this is really a worthy price to him for selling soul - he oughta hurry up and eat his nagant
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Are Canadians allowed to have Nagants?
pete_dushenski: "Zuckerberg, 31, and Chan said they plan to give away 99 percent of their Facebook shares over their lifetimes to advance the initiative, which was formed as a limited liability company controlled by the two. It will begin by focusing on personalized learning, curing disease, Internet connectivity and community building." << hurry! quick like bunnies! while the shares are still worth even a dollar a piece! must! d0n4
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: what's the 'blue book' value of a soul with my mileage, anyway
pete_dushenski: pretty sure shurikens are illegal here, but no reason for nagant not to be, i guess.
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: 'nagant' in question is a 7-shot revolver, circa 1890s
jurov: as for eyebleeding hacks news, naive tx deallocation from bitcoind mempool indeed has little effect on RSS due to fragmentation. currently retrying with "libumem"...
jurov: but in the end it's really got to be rewritten with fixed arrays.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski the truth behind that lol is that none of these schmucks, ie, "smart kids that made it", nor those other schmucks, ie inheritors that obama convocated to tell them how he's gonna spend their money, actually have what it takes.
mircea_popescu: they're the pointlessly rich, they have absolutely nothing to say to the world,
ascii_field: jurov: seems like you have replicated my experiment with same conclusion ?
ascii_field: jurov: and also this is imho an important result, and you really oughta post it to ml
jurov: ascii_field: yes, except you did not write about the details
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: 7-shot eh. how... unorthodox. aren't most 6 ?
jurov: everyone was like "alf said it's something with boost"
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19592 @ 0.00051357 = 10.0619 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: it had a strange and - afaik - unique - system where long-necked cartridge enclosed entire bullet, and cylinder moved against the barrel to form a gastight seal
mircea_popescu: jurov well so don't immitate him, post a proper thing.
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thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: so what happens if you attack someone with nunchaku?
ascii_field: holy fuck, there are still people discussing 'buying ice cream cone' and 'bitcoin' in same paragraph...!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00051357 = 4.5194 BTC [-]
ascii_field: thestringpuller: presumably canada will throw an exception, it is impossible
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: then jesus sheds a tear for your immorality
thestringpuller imagines a terrorist attack in canada involving nunchaku and fake ninjas
pete_dushenski: also, reading more re: prohibited weapons, brass knuckles are fucking illegal !
jurov: yes, defo will post details
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: this kinda thing goes back eons. nobody can ban 'walking on the street while being scum', so ban is for 'item scum is likely to have in his pockets'
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: we entrap all potential terrorists before they can strike. see 'mounties stop cn rail attacks'
assbot: Logged on 01-12-2015 23:06:37; jurov: everyone was like "alf said it's something with boost"
ascii_field: because neither pile of shit is ~really~ part of the language (i realize that this has Officially changed. doesn't matter worth a shit in my head)
ascii_field: borland turbo c++ 3.1 had no motherfucking 'map' !!1111
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13875 @ 0.00051358 = 7.1259 BTC [+]
ascii_field: ^ for those who grew up on some other planet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2474 @ 0.00052385 = 1.296 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: ""The Big Short" should be required viewing for every mortgage and banking professional in America, and maybe every high school civics class, too. It is a direct, frontal assault on the bogus claim peddled by Wall Street and conservative media that poor people and irresponsible borrowers were to blame for the housing crash and the resulting chaos." << movie starring Steve Carell, Ryan Gosling and Brad Pitt, directed
jurov: i dunno, BOOST_FOREACH can be expanded quite easily, then only the serialization stuff remains, have not looked into that yet
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