pete_dushenski: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 417.05, Best ask: 417.41, Bid-ask spread: 0.36000, Last trade: 417.36, 24 hour volume: 33845.23189854, 24 hour low: 388.37, 24 hour high: 422.39, 24 hour vwap: None
shinohai: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/security/3123040
assbot: Microsoft Security Advisory 3123040 ... ( http://bit.ly/1NakkXC )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00048155 = 4.334 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: l0l leak moar private keyz!!11
BingoBoingo: shinohai: I'd appreciate it if when you find these thing you'd make a quick qntra of it.
BingoBoingo goes to do exactly that
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-12-2015#1339116 << again ?!!☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-12-2015 22:42:05; pete_dushenski: http://www.wired.com/2015/12/bitcoins-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-this-unknown-australian-genius/
asciilifeform: to be fair, this is a bit classier
asciilifeform: (almost edging on believable, if any of the 'leaked paperz' were actually available, and if there were any reason to believe in their authenticity)
deedbot-: [Qntra] Microsoft Leaks XBox Live Private Key - http://qntra.net/2015/12/microsoft-leaks-xbox-live-private-key/
BingoBoingo: !up dbclk
asciilifeform: 'All of it could be an elaborate hoax—perhaps orchestrated by Wright himself. The unverified leaked documents could be faked in whole or in part. And most inexplicably of all, comparisons of different archived versions of the three smoking gun posts from Wright’s blog show that he did edit all three—to insert evidence of his bitcoin history. The PGP key associated with Nakamoto’s email address and references to an upco
asciilifeform: ming “cryptocurrency paper” and “triple entry accounting” were added sometime after 2013. Even the post noting bitcoin’s beta launch is questionable. While it was ostensibly posted in January 2009, it later seems to have been deleted and then undeleted—or possibly even written for the first time—sometime between October 2013 and June of 2014.'
asciilifeform: ^ from horse's mouth.
asciilifeform: move the motherfucking coinz or shuddup.
BingoBoingo: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=144960637518617&w=2 << "But we don't care about any of those people anymore. The NSA is the only bad guy worth caring about...."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3501 @ 0.00048155 = 1.6859 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: 'The first of those supercomputers he named Sukuriputo Okane—Japanese for “script money.” Another, named Co1n, holds the title of the world’s most powerful privately owned supercomputer. As Wright told the Bitcoin Investor’s conference, he’s applying that second machine towards the mysterious task of “modeling Bitcoin’s scalability,” and meanwhile building an even more powerful supercomputing cluster in Icela
asciilifeform: nd because of its cheap geothermal power.' << aaaaand dingdingding we're done
asciilifeform: that's quite enough.
BingoBoingo: same thread: "Not as much as it would be if you checked out the www tree from CVS :-)" https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=144961871622930&w=2
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Yes, he absolutely can't be Satoshi N. because the isn't moving coins and want people ot think he is.
asciilifeform: and if you add the detail where satoshi is only even theoretically interesting to anyone today because he could move coinz...
shinohai: I prefer letting you have all teh glory BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Having ALL the glory is bad for my sobriety. I have to allow others to share in it.
asciilifeform: http://www.gwern.net << not a bad site
assbot: Essays - Gwern.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1IT1DDO )
asciilifeform: thought the whole thing stinks of yudkowskyism
asciilifeform: *though
BingoBoingo: Well gwern was a reddit darknets market guru, prolly knows what color 12 is
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00047544 = 8.0587 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00047527 = 6.4874 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CB_PUERTO_RICO_TWITTER_ARREST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-12-08-13-40-26
assbot: News from The Associated Press ... ( http://bit.ly/1HTL28d )
mircea_popescu: "Puerto Rican with 300 Twitter accounts accused of harassment"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10766 @ 0.00047732 = 5.1388 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ^ from horse's mouth. <<< guy's so painfully obvious it's scarcely worth the notice.
mircea_popescu: "by Taboola Sponsored Links " da fuck, this nonsense model of "advertising" took over the dead media to the point it's even on ap now, but always a different name
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5922 @ 0.00047732 = 2.8267 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21854 @ 0.00047732 = 10.4314 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: 'Craig Wright is not modest. On the website of Panopticrypt, one of his many companies, Wright describes himself as “certifiably the world’s foremost IT security expert.”'
asciilifeform: the one thing which i utterly fail to grasp is,
asciilifeform: what in satan's green earth is the point of all of this claptrap.
mircea_popescu: ~same as watching oprah
asciilifeform confesses that he has never seen it
mircea_popescu: the fat black woman
mircea_popescu: does a book of the month club or something.
mircea_popescu: http://sharonleehughson.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/avatar.jpg << why the hell do people do this ?
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1YXshot )
mircea_popescu: "oh, here's my inner wolverine!"
asciilifeform: 'Craig Wright had mined a lot of Bitcoins. Craig then took the Bitcoins and put them into a Seychelles Trust. A bit of it was also put into Singapore. This was run out of an entity from the UK. Craig had gotten approximately 1.1 million Bitcoins.' << on what planet does this make the most elementary kind of sense ?!!
asciilifeform: 'bitcoins and put them into a seychelles trust'
asciilifeform: 'into singapore'
asciilifeform: wat
mircea_popescu: you ever play risk ?
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform even played 'diplomacy'
mircea_popescu: i never did, but gratia seinfeld...
mircea_popescu: you see stan, craigh wright was a simple country boy,
asciilifeform: cuntry boi
mircea_popescu: one could say a cock-eyed optimist that got mixed up in the high stakes game of world diplomacy and international intrigue
asciilifeform: wut
mircea_popescu: well, it's an inside joke. but broadly speaking the idea is, that the fruit of "civilisation" is the sort of derp who has no ability ot interact with, and no actual interest in reality. 100% dedicated to labels. so... he put bitcoin "into singapore".
mircea_popescu: there's no objective valuation of labels, or more properly said there can in principle exist no metric for the set of labels. and consequently, what difference does it make.
asciilifeform: oughta've picked up a wholesome, harmless habit, like dope
mircea_popescu: this is cheaper.
asciilifeform: pretty expensive for the folks who insisted on playing the 'lose half yer money in 3 mo.' game with live-fire btc
asciilifeform: meth prolly'dhavebeen cheaper
mircea_popescu: it'd have been expensive if they were you. but they're them, and so... they just put it in singapore!
asciilifeform reading the unsealed 'variety jones' indictment, and thinking about precisely this
asciilifeform: which is to say, how it is difficult to escape the feeling that all of these schmucks are on trial for ~being stupid~
mircea_popescu: due process!
mircea_popescu: die prozess!
asciilifeform: e.g., 'During the same chat, VJ asked Ulbricht, in sum and substance, whether Ulbricht had disclosed to anyone in real life that he was involved in Silk Road: "IRL - is there anyone with a clue at all? Girlfriend, boyfriend, bunny you talk to, online buddy's who you've know for years? Gramma, priest, rabbi, stripper?" Ulbricht responded, "unfortunately yes. They are two, but they think I sold the site and got out. and they are
asciilifeform: quite convinced of it." VJ replied, "good for that - when do they think you've sold?" and Ulbricht responded, "about a month ago." 3 Based on my training and experience, and my familiarity with this investigation, I believe that during this conversation, Ulbricht disclosed that he had told two people of his connection to Silk Road, but had lied to them by claiming that he had sold Silk Road to someone else.'
mircea_popescu: "bunny you talk to" ?!
asciilifeform has nfi what was meant by the stoolie
mircea_popescu: i suspect the stoolie is a tucker max fan.
mircea_popescu: https://myspace.com/tuckermax/mixes/classic-my-photos-377465/photo/105857810 << blondie there.
jurov: ;;isup mpex.biz
gribble: mpex.biz is up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14856 @ 0.00048675 = 7.2312 BTC [+]
jurov: http://www.isup.me/mpex.biz << gribble lies, as always
assbot: Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up? ... ( http://bit.ly/1YXun7I )
mircea_popescu: jurov i see it. you don't ?
jurov: me nor they don't
mircea_popescu: "It's just you. http://mpex.biz is up"
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. ... ( http://bit.ly/1YXupg3 )
jurov: they told me it's down
mircea_popescu: ^ for that matter.
jurov: now i refresh it's up
mircea_popescu: ah
mircea_popescu: well... someone lies alright! on the internet.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30451 @ 0.00048769 = 14.8506 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: or someone's fucking with me
jurov: what's the status of mpex submission by irc? fell into disrepair?
mircea_popescu: sort-of
mircea_popescu: iirc maintainer dropped off the map.
kakobrekla: !mp <signcrypted_dpasteurl> ?
assbot: Processing.
assbot: Response: http://dpaste.com/22S5C9S.txt
kakobrekla: is this not it?
jurov: yes it is.
kakobrekla still on the map afaik
mircea_popescu: oh!
mircea_popescu: my... head fell off teh map
mircea_popescu: for some reason i was thinking fabianb's bot did it
mircea_popescu: sorry kako
kakobrekla: no worries
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00048675 = 1.1439 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "New book is out: “MATE: Become The Man Women Want”
mircea_popescu: September 18, 2015 by Tucker Max
mircea_popescu: I wrote a new book, and it’s out now. But–it’s not funny stories of getting drunk, hooking up and yelling curses at people (though it’s sort of related, a little). It’s different than that. It’s called “Mate: Become the Man Women Want,” and it’s the definitive guide that will help guys understand women and dating"
mircea_popescu: ahaha check out this shit :D
asciilifeform: holy fuck is there not 1 paragraph of text on the net without a uniturd or eleven in it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.0004877 = 7.73 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: what was ever wrong with the "" the gods gave us, what.
asciilifeform: try reading ze logz on an ascii terminal sometime.
asciilifeform: yer in for a treat, yes.
mircea_popescu: to be fair : all out text is fine, the trouble starts when we quote the morlocks
mircea_popescu: who write on microshit terminals.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: that must be the root of the contagion.
asciilifeform: i can't recall anywhere else where it happens.
asciilifeform: although...
mircea_popescu: you mean shit like –it’s neh ?
asciilifeform: iirc a certain ver. of 'wordpress' also shat 'magical' quotez
asciilifeform: “”’
asciilifeform: pretty sure that at least 1 of my ancient articles is thusly polluted.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30662 @ 0.0004877 = 14.9539 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00048783 = 2.3904 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00048783 = 5.3173 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43600 @ 0.00047768 = 20.8268 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.0004768 = 5.96 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5458 @ 0.00047486 = 2.5918 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, Naphex: are the xotika reports living at predictable urls?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-10-2015#1292987 << only gripe is with paying shareholder divs without paying tax☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2015 19:36:34; mircea_popescu: <Naphex> https://xotika.tv/static/report06102015.html << speaking of which, plox to give the guy's numbers a good shakedown, because im considering listing xotika this month.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes they should, yeah
ben_vulpes: also what constitutes expenditures?
ben_vulpes: not that anyone cares, but things i'd like to see pre-ipo:
ben_vulpes: - monthly reports
ben_vulpes: - description of expenditures
ben_vulpes: - tax payments
ben_vulpes: find
ben_vulpes: fin*
ben_vulpes: not that i'm even going to look at the blockchain on the latter, but they should at least show up on the balance sheet, even if they are going directly into naphex' pocket
mircea_popescu: that's actually kinda the idea.
ben_vulpes: ofc but for logreaders.
kakobrekla: i rather confused reading this statement but i may be thick
kakobrekla: im*
mircea_popescu: questions help.
mircea_popescu: for me for instance it is quite informative that a reasonable timespan for public consultation is ~2 mo.
mircea_popescu wonders if monthly reports aren't too frequent.
kakobrekla: fees are taken on withdrawals? how much is that fee?
ben_vulpes: monthly is an adequate frequency for inspecting operators commitment to the project.
mircea_popescu: !up whiterock
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yeah, that's true.
ben_vulpes: see davout and x.eur
whiterock: !up
ben_vulpes: too late, whiterock, mircea_popescu beat you to it.
kakobrekla: what are these private investments? do those investors get same shares as (will be) on mpex?
whiterock: haha thanks
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla that's just the guy putting money in from his pocket.
kakobrekla: dividends are 9 from 35?
ben_vulpes: board can authorize divs of whatever size they want to?
mircea_popescu: huh ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i dun recall what they charged, a few % but sliding scale
kakobrekla: yeah these numbers dont make any sense to me still.
mircea_popescu: somewhat unrelated, http://36.media.tumblr.com/1cc9a5d0cfe50e3ab506233f9f113a82/tumblr_mksvh7tuk11rl0d0yo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1m9vjrI )
whiterock: hi guys i cant back read the topi. if its ok, may i know what is being discussed?
ben_vulpes: shareholder equity implies a previous investment round as well.
ben_vulpes: whiterock: find the topic with /topic
mircea_popescu: whiterock try the log eh.
ben_vulpes: but that has nothing to do with the topic
kakobrekla: > as fees are calculated on withdrawal >Dividend to shareholders9.6487 > Withdrawals*35.7354 >
whiterock: oh great thanks
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no, it's an accumulator value. everything not otherwise accounted is shareholder equity.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla and where's the problem ?
kakobrekla: 9 btc on 35 btc ?
ben_vulpes: aok
mircea_popescu: they're not really related tho. so the site paid 35 btc in withdrawals (by performers) and 9 btc in dividends
ben_vulpes: like i said kakobrekla the 'board' can pay whatever in divs apparently
mircea_popescu: it can pay whatever it wants in dividends, up to its entire cash balance.
kakobrekla: but site generates div from fees on withdrawals
kakobrekla: aha
mircea_popescu: no, it generates dividends on board say-so out of its cash
mircea_popescu: just as long as they're paid fairly (ie, by share ownership proportion) they can be any arbitrary value between 0 and entreprise value
kakobrekla: so he paid 9to himself if i understand this correctly?
mircea_popescu: logically he put 23 in got 9 out, seems to me
ben_vulpes: ;;calc 23.8804/7.16412
gribble: 3.33333333333
whiterock: is punkman around btw?
ben_vulpes: ;;calc 7.16412/23.8804
gribble: 0.3
kakobrekla: and 'platform dev' ? is he charging the actual work needed with the site?
ben_vulpes: 30% depreciation in server value over four months and some days?
ben_vulpes: aaa fractional months
mircea_popescu: the one problem i see in there is that if there's 73 deposited and 35 withdrawn, the difference is unearned income, and improperly reported as shareholder equity.
mircea_popescu: should really be under viewers i suppose.
ben_vulpes: yeah also what is platform dev
ben_vulpes: and why is that reported as an asset value increase
whiterock slaps punkman around a bit with a large fishbot
mircea_popescu: that i recall the discussion of. i asked if it has resale/license value, and he said yes.
ben_vulpes: !down whiterock
mircea_popescu: so in principle, it could be sold.
ben_vulpes: some hand-wavey value of the software?
mircea_popescu: i would expect it's a historical value of the software
mircea_popescu: "this is what we spend developing it"
ben_vulpes: i thought Naphex wrote it
mircea_popescu: i thought it was a one man show originally too, but apparently there's at least another guy (this CoraCrisT fellow) doing something in between ceo and pr.
mircea_popescu: and i guess more people.
mircea_popescu: !up CoraCrisT
ben_vulpes: also "software" should be depreciated on a goddamn 2 year schedule it rots so quickly. especially these single-page angular things; they're exceptionally more expensive to maintain as time goes on.
mircea_popescu: !gettrust CoraCrisT
assbot: Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user CoraCrisT: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=CoraCrisT | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/CoraCrisT/
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes afaik their major weakness is an inability to run in anything but chrome atm
ben_vulpes: that has nothing to do with depreciation schedule.
mircea_popescu: no, but it has a lot to do with future cost.
ben_vulpes: and think what you will, constraining the operating environment to just chrome is a pretty sensible cost-reducing move.
mircea_popescu: i didn't veto it or anything.
mircea_popescu: jus' saying.
ben_vulpes: you can make the consumers "come to expect" anything, unless mgmt insists pigheadedly on cross-browser support chasing "lift" or "conversion" or some such, chrome should be adequate.
ben_vulpes: ofc this buys also the risk of google ripping the sheets out from under one.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that anyone's downloading a browser to run your spunk app.
mircea_popescu: moreover, unless google;'s paying for this, why the fuck am i dirving their dumbass product on my dime.
ben_vulpes: everyone already has chrome, there is no "download".
mircea_popescu: i don't know anyone running chrome.
ben_vulpes rolls eyes
mircea_popescu: o god damned it
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: i stand corrected.
mircea_popescu looked in trilema's last month, it's actually mostly chrome. http://dpaste.com/2VEQBEC
assbot: dpaste: 2VEQBEC ... ( http://bit.ly/1m9wpne )
mircea_popescu: so i guess there's a new microsoft huh.
ben_vulpes nods
mircea_popescu: sad.
mircea_popescu: god forsaken species that never in its history produced anything but stupid.
ben_vulpes: welcome, mircea_popescu, to the new new new new web
mircea_popescu: "oh i know, we've never done the stupid thing THIS WAY before!"
ben_vulpes: what was it before?
ben_vulpes: lynx?
mircea_popescu: "drop everything! there's another same-way to do the stupid!"
ben_vulpes not a fan but a prisoner
mircea_popescu: anyway. i'm off to bed. looking forward to part 2 of the xotika discussion once Naphex shows up.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00047609 = 7.7603 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00047983 = 10.8921 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> iirc a certain ver. of 'wordpress' also shat 'magical' quotez << All of them seem to force it unless suitably corrected
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00048885 = 8.7504 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: https://vimeo.com/147767325 << this is some epic horseshit
assbot: VimeUhOh ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ob1WM3 )
ben_vulpes: gamma phi beta and kappa delta are abusing the DMCA to take down videos that portray them in ways in which they do not like.
ben_vulpes: dear victoria valentine, she who studies/d film and made an entertaining video about cults and sororities, do drop me a line.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mitch_callahan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSTCGe4neOM found a backup
assbot: RECRUITMENT 2016 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1YXHcPp )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: also vimeo is a reprehensible operation who caves unconditionally to baseless dmca notices from SORORITIES
ben_vulpes: what a buncha wimps.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00048976 = 11.142 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8655 @ 0.00049013 = 4.2421 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8045 @ 0.00049084 = 3.9488 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00048643 = 8.9503 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00048379 = 4.3057 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22006 @ 0.00049084 = 10.8014 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8110 @ 0.00048379 = 3.9235 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.0004777 = 8.3836 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32500 @ 0.00047482 = 15.4317 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up scoopbot_revived
BingoBoingo: Oh shit scoopbot_revived
liquidassets: These Usian Disney chicks keep using 'love' like it's this thing one gives to another to substitute for what one lacks, or a tool for filling a void or getting what one wants. Maybe the word they're actually looking for is cock! Do you cock me? Well sure I do baby.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00047557 = 7.3476 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: http://thetab.com/us/uconn/2015/12/07/exclusive-interview-artist-pissed-off-greek-life-1908 << victoria valentine actually went so far as to file a Fair Use doctrine appeal. doesn't appear that vimeo gives a shit, though.
assbot: We spoke to the 'Cuse artist whose cult video pissed off Greek life ... ( http://bit.ly/1NhEddb )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7790 @ 0.00048346 = 3.7662 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33250 @ 0.00047473 = 15.7848 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7365 @ 0.00047456 = 3.4951 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5135 @ 0.00047428 = 2.4354 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up btcdrak
BingoBoingo: http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2015/12/04/shkrelis-chagas-maneuver << Also important to note Chagas is an emerging illness in the United States
assbot: Shkreli’s Chagas Maneuver | In the Pipeline ... ( http://bit.ly/1NaOM44 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00047509 = 7.3639 BTC [+]
adlai: huh, so tradeblock.com (dynamic web2.0++ horrorshow, be warned) flags bitfinex as "operating unreliably", butt has no problem giving okcasino over 50% weighing in their price index
punkman: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-bitcoin-exclusive-idUSKBN0TS0AB20151209
assbot: Australian police raid Sydney home of reported bitcoin creator| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1lO2G2y )
punkman: where's cazalla with the scoop
BingoBoingo: punkman: I just saw it. Writing up a note.
punkman: raid supposedly not related to bitcoin, but obvious what would happen to the real satoshi
punkman: maybe he's already in coke machine but doesn't remember teh keys
punkman: adlai, did you try any of the chinese exchanges yet?
adlai: mno
adlai: it's reassuring that we've not had another gox-scale gox since gox... yet
punkman: wait for it when price shoots up again
adlai: meanwhilol, https://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/10/cons-conflict-resolved-at-last/
assbot: jwz: Cons conflict resolved at last ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSPuDz )
deedbot-: [Qntra] Craig Steven Wright Raided By Australian Police - http://qntra.net/2015/12/craig-steven-wright-raided-by-australian-police/
BingoBoingo: My first draft had the phrase "theft boners"
adlai: (from comments) "Please add a "+1" button to each topic post. It doesn't have to and probably shouldn't do anything except maybe flash once if you push it." << reminds of the crosswalk impatience vents
adlai: ransomware!
adlai: who knew it'd reach meatspace
BingoBoingo: I though ransomware started in meatspace
adlai tends to forget the years Before Coin
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVvZ-hnUsAAQfe4.png:large
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSQd7P )
adlai: reasonable people do themselves a disservice by stooping to the language of simpletons
punkman: "anthropomorphic global warming"
adlai: just phrase it as pinpointing the nature and inception of the anthropocene era, their eyes will glaze over and they'll back out of your territory instead of pretending to understand the issues
BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/6aMmQd.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE6QEI )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00047829 = 11.0963 BTC [+]
punkman: -morhpic, -genic , who cares, the first few letters look right
BingoBoingo: https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/712180
assbot: HAES: "My bloodwork is perfect" edition. | fatpeoplehate ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE7rX1 )
adlai: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3w1s4i/should_we_rename_the_blockchain_craigs_list/
assbot: Should we rename the blockchain Craigs List? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE7wde )
BingoBoingo: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2953749/Now-doctors-boy-12-gastric-band-Youngest-British-patient-extreme-weight-loss-surgery-experts-declare-child-obesity-parents-fault-new-TV-expos.html
assbot: Now doctors give boy, 12, gastric band: Youngest ever British patient of extreme weight-loss surgery as experts declare child obesity IS parents' fault in new TV exposé  | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSQRCh )
BingoBoingo: https://imgur.com/Tv3cNqc << lol Wright really looks like a plant nao
assbot: Blockchain Scale Tests by (alleged) Satoshi! 340 GB blocks, 568k transactions! - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSQW95 )
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/e17Ed
assbot: dudetalking comments on Dr. Craig Steven Wright (alleged Satoshi, by Wired) on YouTube, from Bitcoin Investor Conference at Las Vegas ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE86I3 )
adlai: moderator: "Oh so it can then be taxed as a currency and a commodity, and [Dr CSW] said, 'neither'" << clearly has not signed the pledge of allegiance yet
adlai: aha so at 20:37 cowboy hat cites jgarzik for an idea of softforking turing-complete opcodes... i'd like to see miners lemming their way along with that soft fork
adlai wonders whether we'll first see a fork fail soft or hard
adlai: https://twitter.com/BitcoinBelle/status/674365484029059072 (panel moderator, seems to have been the bait that fished out the good doctor)
adlai: assbot choking on twitter? https://archive.is/oWetS
assbot: DI$RUPTIV3 on Twitter: "You know that moment when you discover that someone you thought worthy proves himself to not be? #WeighedAndMeasuredAndFailed" ... ( http://bit.ly/1IEadeR )
adlai: "as a recovering government bureaucrat, i'll refrain from commenting things i know nothing about" ed moy wins the panel
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13965 @ 0.00048172 = 6.7272 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18824 @ 0.00047784 = 8.9949 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24067 @ 0.00048585 = 11.693 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21321 @ 0.00048853 = 10.4159 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: <assbot> Australian police raid Sydney home of reported bitcoin creator << ahahaha WHAT\
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18485 @ 0.00049075 = 9.0715 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: punkman> "anthropomorphic global warming" << he means anthropogenic, but whatever. redditards.
mircea_popescu: <adlai> just phrase it as pinpointing the nature and inception of the anthropocene era, their eyes will glaze over and they'll back out of your territory instead of pretending to understand the issues <<< this is an exceptionally retarded approach to keeping idiots in check. it has a lengthy history of being deployed by "white" people ever before white people were invented, and it always failed. nevertheless, it's stil
mircea_popescu: l with us like the belief god may change your coke to pepsi : because it's easy, and because it caters to the specific lacks and infirmities of the "white" mind.
mircea_popescu: <assbot> Should we rename the blockchain Craigs List? : Bitcoin ... << pretty much the core of why redditards are so lulzy. THEY are going to RENAME things ? like what, their imaginary gf ? isis ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: pretty sure that was a joke
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> https://imgur.com/Tv3cNqc << lol Wright really looks like a plant nao <<< ahahaa now i remember that muppet. intel turned him up sometime this autumn, total lulzfest.
assbot: Blockchain Scale Tests by (alleged) Satoshi! 340 GB blocks, 568k transactions! - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSQW95 )
adlai: it doesn't keep them in check, the purpose is deflection
mircea_popescu: basically keiser in his youth.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony no, the "joke" is only there to make the idiocy pass.
mircea_popescu: kinda how adolescents the world over do their dating. "hey, wanna go out with me ? no ? oh, i was only joking. ha-ha."
mircea_popescu: funniest shit ever.
mircea_popescu: "Who filed the claim? Gamma Phi Beta and Kappa Delta, two large national organizations of sisterly love, whose houses and members were featured in the video. This was highly suspect."
mircea_popescu: yeah dude. totally fucking suspect, that you film on my premises without paying me and then don't get to benefit from the product. so suspect it almost makes me wonder why the fuck would i even bother owning shit.
adlai: heh, ed moy's closing words boil down to "usg has no future in bitcoin beyond hoping to tax it"
mircea_popescu: hey, that's exactly what the republic of china's government hopes in china are. har har. they'll tax the mainland off taiwan!"
adlai can't believe he watched the entire panel, but it has the perfect blend of pseudoscience, technobabble, and hopium
mircea_popescu: !up dbclk
punkman: film on my premises without paying me << looked like he just used segments from sororities' own videos
mircea_popescu just realised that what he should be doing with this time these days is interview isis derps.
mircea_popescu realised immediatelyt thereafter with some sadness that he can't actually be arsed to go into the anthill and impose sense upon it.
mircea_popescu sees the wisdom of asciilifeform now, to his chagrin.
mircea_popescu: punkman right ?
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-12-09.log.html#t11:06:47
assbot: #Eulora log for Wednesday, 2015-12-09 ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAuIcX )
mircea_popescu: that sciencemag bit is hysterical tho. idiots who buy into the whole "ip is needed for to creativity with!" hook line and sinker are displeased when it turns out "ip only exists for people to arb the process, and make money out of the money intended to support creativity". but it never occurs to them what the problem is. because hey, why should scientists be any better at thinking than random five year old, "dog bit me
mircea_popescu: , dog's bad"
mircea_popescu: it's not like their own unsufferable personalities ever bite them. it's just these damned dogs everywhere all the time!
mircea_popescu: anyway, so the point of the "is random derp X ?" (no) article was so that reuters could run a piece saying "Australian police raided the Sydney home and office on Wednesday of a man named by Wired magazine as the probable creator of bitcoin and holder of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of the cryptocurrency, Reuters witnesses said."
mircea_popescu: which is great, i guess, if you're at that level of stupid, but otherwise would seem kinda damaging.
mircea_popescu: i guess reuters, wired & all correctly judge that there's absolutely no brand value left in their shit and so why worry.
mircea_popescu: in other news, would any of the brighter minds present explain the jwz piece to me ? i have the feeling he thinks he's being clever, but i lack the resources to comprehend the intricate minutia of his idiocy.
mircea_popescu: https://www.jwz.org/blog/2008/03/most-positive-bignum/ << in his defense this is actually pretty lulzy. ESPECIALLY the microcode loop part.
assbot: jwz: MOST-POSITIVE-BIGNUM ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAwvih )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00048224 = 4.3884 BTC [-]
fluffypony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z2vU8M6CYI
assbot: Beatles 3000 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAxqiz )
mircea_popescu: http://dreamsongs.com/ <<< how to be retarded. today, richard "i don't have a name and i was born without a face, here's some salmon background" gabriel.
assbot: Dreamsongs ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAxnDA )
mircea_popescu: "i don't have a name and i was born without a face, here's some salmon background" evaluates to p-bignum.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00048196 = 9.0849 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: http://www.sei.cmu.edu/splc2009/images/rgabriel.jpg << protip : almost no one outside of young women looks good smiling. STOP DOING IT. you're supposed to have a personality. have a fucking personality.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAxLSp )
mircea_popescu: http://exple.tive.org/blarg/2011/12/22/astrophysics/ << "Doing the math we can conclude it will take 1.7 x 10^17 years for our sun to generate the same amount of energy as the dietary value of one cubic light year of cheese."
assbot: Astrophysics – blarg? ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qvn3xl )
adlai: "College is a place where a professor's lecture notes go straight to a student's lecture notes without passing through the brains of either" - Samuel L Clemens
mircea_popescu: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CLIMATE_COUNTDOWN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-12-08-15-02-36 << in more random lulz, Cardinal Peter Turkson, president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace who helped draft the pope's June encyclical on global warming, said "If it gets to a stalemate or whatever, [...]". valley girls prevail.
assbot: News from The Associated Press ... ( http://bit.ly/1QvnFmm )
mircea_popescu: or whatever.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6113 @ 0.00048302 = 2.9527 BTC [+]
adlai: http://roland.iwasno.net/lisp/datoura/datoura.html "set of data graphing lisp routines that generate postscript output. Generating postscript eliminates the need for X graphics libraries, but you must have a postscript viewer installed"
assbot: datoura_homepage ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAzoiZ )
adlai: great for printing afictionados and headless arsonists
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00047426 = 11.6194 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: https://angel.co/syndicates << in other news, every proprietary scamsystem/kickstarter out there will be sooner or later building a bug-ridden, half-baked, ad-hoc implementation of the common wot.
assbot: Syndicates - AngelList ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAAonn )
mircea_popescu: and pretend like they have no clue about it, too. "i just got this idea".
mircea_popescu: all romanian literature, +- 2 or 3 people in the entire history, consists of translations and imports passed off as original.
mircea_popescu: the crayfish, frog and pike story counts in romanian as "wholly original content by al donici", notwithstanding it's a plain as day translation of previous generation ru material.
mircea_popescu: all "rock" throuyghout the 60s-90s is simply us music set to [bad] localised lyrics. and contemporary "rap" is just about the same.
mircea_popescu: there's something very appealing to idiocy about this process of "invention" through kidnapping a princess and dragging her through the mud of one's orcish abode.
adlai: leaving your mark on the world, like a pissing mutt, rather than breathing life into a new one
mircea_popescu: what mark ? chagas is hardly a mark.
adlai: https://imgur.com/snLplqq
assbot: i made this little comic, hope you like it - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1OQhtFF )
mircea_popescu: then we wonder why cuckolding is the primary lifestyle of white pplz.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17211 @ 0.00047826 = 8.2313 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11039 @ 0.00047422 = 5.2349 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://25iq.com/2015/03/28/a-dozen-things-ive-learned-from-startup-l-jackson-about-venture-capital-investing-and-startups/ << quarterly review of the whole "start-up" gargle as amusing this quarter as the last, and the many before that.
assbot: A Dozen Things I’ve Learned from Startup L. Jackson About Venture Capital Investing and Startups | 25iq ... ( http://bit.ly/1TABnDY )
mircea_popescu: "here's the things we want you to think : a) that you need us ; b) that you shouldn't look out for yourself".
mircea_popescu: yeah, totally. what you want when doing a start-up is to "raise" a lot of money so you can pay the people who you "rose" it from rent so their real-estate sidelines do really well (in exactly the opposite fashion of what's preached here), while "not optimizing for your size of the pie".
mircea_popescu: sounds like exactly what they told the indians, too.
punkman: it does say 25 iq
mircea_popescu: which happens to be exactly what's happening, too. indians "had" land, the nature of which they failed to understand, but it was the funciar good for good reason back then.
mircea_popescu: these indians have time, the nature of which they also fail to understand, and well... it's the funciar good today.
mircea_popescu: oh right, and i forgot, "c) there's a shortage of you suckers [and really, alot of money you can give right back to us is "chasing" this deal. totally.]"
mircea_popescu: punkman so it does huh. except it's a weird thing, i've seen this lots in us-born slavegirls. woman could be well above 100 iq, think herself stupid, and indeed exhibit ~30-50 iq in selected fields.
mircea_popescu: so well selected for the convenience&perpetuation of the stupidity she comes from, one can hardly believe it's not deliberately trained.
mircea_popescu: but whatever, fight "patriarchy", not the incredibly unhealthy system that makes you be dumb in the few spots it handles you by so your smarts in the rest of the spectrum can be best sucked dry.
mircea_popescu: average ustard is, i would guess, a 110 to 115 iq college graduate whose 110 to 115 iq is composed of 150+ iq in beating himself up, 25 iq in establishing relationships and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: ethical idiocy, where ethical does not mean what esltards think it means, but merely "how to correctly live".
mircea_popescu: this is actually indicative of the very fucking problem : ethics means, how to live. such as for instance, how to drive a fucking airplane i nthe tax office if you live in the us. that's ethics. meanwhile the carefully-debilitated ustards actually think ethics means the exact opposite of what ethics means. to them ethics is "the ways to inconvenience your life".
mircea_popescu: iq 25 alright.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.0004869 = 12.7081 BTC [-]
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Naphex: o/ morning
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00047422 = 12.3297 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24486 @ 0.00048524 = 11.8816 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9914 @ 0.00049079 = 4.8657 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00049079 = 4.1226 BTC [+]
deedbot-: [Trilema] Etica Mircea - http://trilema.com/2015/etica-mircea/
mircea_popescu: rfc btw ^
nubbins`: !seen mitch_callahan
nubbins` shrugs
jurov: ;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --currency eur
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 384.0, Best ask: 386.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 386.0, 24 hour volume: 166.94604927, 24 hour low: 361.0, 24 hour high: 387.0, 24 hour vwap: 378.32201248
jurov: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00260363 / 0.00269875 / 0.00276803 (513 shares, 1.38 BTC), 7D: 0.00260363 / 0.00278366 / 0.00282306 (1652 shares, 4.60 BTC), 30D: 0.00260363 / 0.00308798 / 0.00343696 (6435 shares, 19.87 BTC)
jurov: ;;calc 1/0.00260363
gribble: 384.079151031
jurov: mkay
Naphex: ben_vulpes: i did write xotika and still do. I work with a graphic designer and frontend developer
Naphex: CoraCrisT handless the bussiness side, and press and recruiting and a bunch of other stuff
Naphex: ben_vulpes: xotika has a full rest-full API while the angular js is static html that just connects to the backends
Naphex: the api is meant to be exported for all the other clients which we will be developing
Naphex: like Android APPs for phones/tables and smarttv
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $1,000 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1234/bitcoin-to-top-1-000-before-jul-2016/#b13
shinohai: http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/09/pine-a64-64-bit-4k-maker-board/ <<< nifty
assbot: PINE A64 is a $15, 'high-performance' take on the Raspberry Pi ... ( http://bit.ly/1M2ZcPb )
Naphex: ben_vulpes:and think what you will, constraining the operating environment to just chrome is a pretty sensible cost-reducing move.
Naphex: <<< spot on
Naphex: i only cover chrome for the most part, firefox got really left behind..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11561 @ 0.00048596 = 5.6182 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: ".gnupg/random_seed. A file used to preserve the state of the internal random pool." any clue what this thing is?
mircea_popescu: i discovered yest so did everyone, Naphex
mircea_popescu: apparently chrome is taking over.
mircea_popescu: punkman seed for the internal prng iirc
mircea_popescu: and in random eulora stuff, http://dianacoman.com/Eulora/map1.script << check out the awks!
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1M311LQ )
punkman: but why would I want to preserve this
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60205 @ 0.00049078 = 29.5474 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: my guess is that it's more of a configuration thing than a preservation thing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00049084 = 10.6512 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339629 << mno. preservation.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 14:48:29; mircea_popescu: my guess is that it's more of a configuration thing than a preservation thing.
asciilifeform: gotta understand how, in a prng, the seed is the only genuine bit of entropy;
mircea_popescu: aha.
asciilifeform: and how, where the state consists of solely how long the thing has been churning, naturally it stows a turd
asciilifeform: sorta how leporidae (e.g., rabbit) stores his half-digested food in edible turdlets
asciilifeform: the design of gpg rng subsystem assumes extreme entropy-starvation. this is plain as daylight from 10 minutes of reading the src.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339615 << kickstarturd☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 14:30:13; shinohai: http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/09/pine-a64-64-bit-4k-maker-board/ <<< nifty
asciilifeform: ' Oh, and it starts from just $15 and is available to "pre-order" via Kickstarter right now.'
asciilifeform: 'PINE A64 includes a quad-core ARM Cortex A53 1.2GHz processor, dual-core Mali 400 MP2 graphics..' << aaaaaand dingdingdingding we get to the requires-closed-driver-turd-just-to-run item 10 seconds in.
asciilifeform: just like the samsung arm 'chromebook' gathering dust in my bookcase
asciilifeform: will happily run 'linux'
asciilifeform: but not, of course, linux.
mircea_popescu: heh
asciilifeform wondered for some time why anyone would market a gpu chipset named for african pisshole
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24750 @ 0.00048451 = 11.9916 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/107461376f815e227c81d6da9b7fce16/tumblr_ni02qz5D4W1td0y0yo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1REDYy5 )
shinohai: not so nifty then
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00049086 = 13.9404 BTC [+] {3}
deedbot-: [Trilema] Eulora as seen by Mircescu - http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-as-seen-by-mircescu/
mircea_popescu: and in other weird news, http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2015/12/08/thousands-coffee-cans-wash-up-indialantic/76969680/
assbot: Coffee spill: Thousands of coffee cans wash up in Indialantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1lurGwk )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339455 << brings to mind the 16th-17th. c. idiots who pushed themselves as 'great alchemists', ended up taken captive by some lord who wanted phr33333 g0ld, and eventually guzzled lead on the public scaffold for charlatanry☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 08:19:42; punkman: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-bitcoin-exclusive-idUSKBN0TS0AB20151209
asciilifeform bbl.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14311 @ 0.00048902 = 6.9984 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18984 @ 0.00049153 = 9.3312 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: https://twitter.com/anildash/status/674569165429174272
nubbins`: says he hasn't even listened to it yet
nubbins` weeps with laughter
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23050 @ 0.00048968 = 11.2871 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17071 @ 0.00049069 = 8.3766 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00048902 = 3.1542 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: nubbins`: as they say CREAM
ben_vulpes: https://gcaptain.com/watch-tug-smashes-passenger-vessel-in-argentina << god bless the argentines
assbot: WATCH: Tug Smashes Passenger Vessel in Argentina - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/1lPqyD4 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26750 @ 0.0004859 = 12.9978 BTC [-] {4}
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] In which Sam Biddle, Andy Cush, Andy Greenberg and Gwern Branwen fail to learn anything from the charred corpse of Leah McGrath Goodman, or how to tell if you’ve actually found Satoshi Nakamoto. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/09/in-which-sam-biddle-andy-cush-andy-greenberg-and-gwern-branwen-fail-to-learn-anything-from-the-charred-
adlai: ;;later tell pete_dushenski PGP signatures don't prove identities to people who don't trust the keys. repeated attempts to establish trust lines to satoshi's purported PGP key have failed
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Satoshi's speshul because as alf says "has to move coins" to inspire faith in identity correspondence
adlai: the best and trust-minimalest "proof-of-satoshi" is the (unspendable!) genesis coinbase
adlai: he could ECDSA sign a message saying "any further coinbases were mined by impostors, frauds, and early adopters, or all three simultaneously"
adlai: but this is just my opinion, and i'm amoral for reasons of mental retardation
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00049163 = 9.1689 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35025814 some are picking up coffee cans, some the real stuff
assbot: Austria boy finds euro banknotes in Danube in Vienna - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nc1a3K )
jurov: "i'm amoral for reasons of mental retardation" orly?
adlai at least can still put two and two together
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00049183 = 15.2959 BTC [+] {4}
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339477 << anthro..pogenic?☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 09:16:37; punkman: "anthropomorphic global warming"
ben_vulpes reads next line
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339493 << did you?☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 09:44:52; adlai: moderator: "Oh so it can then be taxed as a currency and a commodity, and [Dr CSW] said, 'neither'" << clearly has not signed the pledge of allegiance yet
adlai subscribes to the pledge of "gimme eat"
adlai: and if that's lost on you... well there are some classics that were written after marie lost her head
adlai has paid more "tax" than he'll "owe" in the next ~year, barring persistent s.mpoe trader idiocy
ben_vulpes: sooo bot thinger's not making any money because dumb opponents?
adlai: so far i must say, the humans have been surprisingly efficient
ben_vulpes is struggling to parse
adlai: no, if opponents are too dumb, bot makes more money than i've paid tax to cover, and i pay some more tax.
ben_vulpes: > barring
ben_vulpes: aha
adlai: but "the whole ['opponents' thing] is a false dichotomy"
ben_vulpes: oh yes?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339611 << mircea_popescu hasn't made you make the "programmers spigot" plain-old-html view yet huh?☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 14:24:59; Naphex: ben_vulpes: xotika has a full rest-full API while the angular js is static html that just connects to the backends
adlai: positive-sum wonderlands do not involve carcass-treading; they are instead eaten in a feast, with portions rationed by participation; but "everybody has a share"
jurov: ben_vulpes: mp is fine with api that can be accessed by curl (but dunno if xotika is the case)
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323485 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 02:25:48; mircea_popescu: seriously, let the dumbass tech kids get away with this stupid shit ?
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adlai: ben_vulpes: see, that guy just got a better price. i wouldn't call him an opponent.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339611 << implies it does, jurov☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 14:24:59; Naphex: ben_vulpes: xotika has a full rest-full API while the angular js is static html that just connects to the backends
ben_vulpes: i see adlai
adlai: pls reread cited sections of 'congolese trading window'
ben_vulpes: ah that
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kakobrekla: spreading works, no also eating. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-12-03/how-dow-chemical-is-turning-sewage-into-a-refreshing-drink
assbot: How Dow Chemical Is Turning Sewage Into a Refreshing Drink - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1lPKOEs )
ben_vulpes: asked a potential hire "what do you know or believe that few people agree with you on"
ben_vulpes: "cork is the sustainable bottle-stopper"
adlai: lol plastics
adlai: sorry, 'plastics'
ben_vulpes: then followed a long explanation of the horseshit dow is putting into screw-top wine bottles and synthetic corks
ben_vulpes: adlai: out of curiosity what's the difference between 'plastic' and plastic?
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adlai: ;;search one word ben plastics
gribble: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
adlai: ;;google one word ben plastics
gribble: The Graduate (1967) - Quotes - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061722/quotes>; The Graduate - Wikiquote: <https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Graduate>; The Graduate "One Word: Plastics" - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSxihhBzCjk>
adlai: ben_vulpes: tell your hopeful i'm stealing his cannswer
adlai unearthed the "report" he wrote on the cork industry in 5th grade last night while throwing out old schoolwork
jurov: !up Casper-
nubbins`: yfw vexual is satoshi
mircea_popescu: amusingly, there's actually a trilema about that derp.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-nigger-a-practical-exercise/
assbot: The nigger, a practical exercise. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiHJUu )
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes https://gcaptain.com/watch-tug-smashes-passenger-vessel-in-argentina << god bless the argentines << they're talented folk. just, not at anything that correlates with survival.
assbot: WATCH: Tug Smashes Passenger Vessel in Argentina - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/1lPqyD4 )
mircea_popescu: or with interesting.
mircea_popescu: ok, ok
mircea_popescu: !rated adlai
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mircea_popescu: !unrate adlai
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mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> << mircea_popescu hasn't made you make the "programmers spigot" plain-old-html view yet huh? << this is hate speech.
mircea_popescu: <adlai> ben_vulpes: tell your hopeful i'm stealing his cannswer << yeah, it's a very good can.
mircea_popescu: just add string.
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BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339543 << r. gabriel was the 'worse is better' guy.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 11:38:17; mircea_popescu: http://dreamsongs.com/ <<< how to be retarded. today, richard "i don't have a name and i was born without a face, here's some salmon background" gabriel.
ascii_field: i once tried to read his other shit, and barfed
ascii_field: 'poet'
mircea_popescu: you don't really like ANY of the classics lispers do you.
ascii_field: weinreb was ok before he went barmy and then died
ascii_field: david moon was ok because he said nothing at all
ascii_field: minsky wrote an entertaining b00k re: brain-as-multiorgan-system
mircea_popescu: also not clearly from this planetg.
mircea_popescu: minsky's probably the more advanced work on theoretical neurology to date.
ascii_field: john mccarthy was spiffy all around
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: now, granted that clinical neurology is still the vastly more important thing, but anyway.
BingoBoingo: Not rly.
ascii_field: https://cryptome.org/2015/12/xu-001.pdf <<<<>>>> http://dpaste.com/14E2BXY.txt < lulzy
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiKyoP )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiKwNu )
BingoBoingo: theoretical neurology much more practical
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, it occurs to me looking through tucker max's sad history past decade (random guy on the internet, thinks "he invented a literary genus" because wrote some bland, unoriginal "debauchery stories" ; burned out of that [the tucker max makes a movie in hollywood shit was pretty lulzy] then moved on to... being an investor! burned out of that, now writing advice books on how to be the perfect mate for some woman
mircea_popescu: ) that he's very much a son of his country and a man of his age. there is still a very strong vein of "guide literature" from wild west in us fiction writing to this date.
mircea_popescu: it all really proceeds on the same great page of "i ain't got much lernin but i seen them buttes, here's how you too can get there!"
ascii_field: recognizably aha
mircea_popescu: very bizzare thing for civilised folk.
mircea_popescu: i mean... this is what the village idiot would be in ro
mircea_popescu: and ru for that matter.
mircea_popescu: but these are places that've been continuously inhabited for a while, where the space of possibilities has been a little more explored.
ascii_field: earlier link features a chinese fella on trial for supposedly pinching a priceless!11111 filesystem driver from ibm
mircea_popescu: fancy that. those exist ?
ascii_field: cloud!11111
mircea_popescu: oic.
ascii_field: and somehow a sting/entrapment op was in the mix, even
ascii_field: classic usg, recommended reading for aficionados strictly.
mircea_popescu: by now i suppose the prosecuting attorney will suspect the case may not seem like a "real" case w/o one.
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding that the premier indicator of not-real-case is exactly "sting!!11"
mircea_popescu: anywya, it bears pointing out, to round the "us www guide fiction" thread, that the donner party was the unfortunate result of that typically american literary genus, the wild west guide fiction.
mircea_popescu: not EXACTLY a tall tale, like the canadians got. crazier.
mircea_popescu: in the pathological sense of crazier.
BingoBoingo: related http://www.slate.com/blogs/schooled/2015/12/09/rafe_esquith_famous_teacher_accused_of_sexual_misconduct_and_inappropriate.html
assbot: Rafe Esquith, famous teacher, accused of sexual misconduct and inappropriate behavior in school by L.A. schools ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwIdel )
BingoBoingo: "perhaps the most decorated elementary-school teacher in the country, the only K-12 educator ever to receive the National Medal of the Arts—has been accused of sexual misconduct in shocking documents released Tuesday by Los Angeles Unified School District."
mircea_popescu: this is like being accused of "wrecking" in the other-us.
mircea_popescu: you're guaranteed to get it, the higher accomplished you are. it correlates with your visibility because the point, from the niggers' perspective, is exactly to try and make it a thing by sticking it to people.
mircea_popescu: in this sense, if there's ANYONE that appears above, then that's someone above lenin. which they can't have. and so...
ascii_field: 'c.
ascii_field: UC-2
ascii_field: asked.
ascii_field: “Oh
ascii_field: you
ascii_field: do
ascii_field: have
mircea_popescu: ...
ascii_field: all
ascii_field: the
ascii_field: code’?”
ascii_field: XU
ascii_field: replied.
ascii_field: “Yeah
ascii_field: I
ascii_field: have
ascii_field: all
ascii_field: the
ascii_field: [Proprietary
ascii_field: Softwarej
mircea_popescu: dem buffers.
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mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: ty for cutting the wire in time.
ascii_field: http://dpaste.com/2016J0Z.txt << the intended turdlet.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwISfN )
mircea_popescu: https://arenavc.com/2015/07/airbnb-my-1-billion-lesson/ << maybe interesting. since i'm going through all this idiocy, might as well.
assbot: Airbnb, My $1 Billion Lesson - by Paige Craig ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwIVbF )
ascii_field: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2015/12/gender_critical_trans_women_the_apostates_of_the_trans_rights_movement.html << from earlier fishwrap
assbot: Gender critical trans women: The apostates of the trans rights movement. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiMJbH )
mircea_popescu: yaya im sure.
mircea_popescu: the funny skit in that paige craig piece being that if paul graham and his merry band of spammers & conmen hadn't "invested", the thing would be worth tgoday what it it;'s been worth throughout : four digits in someone's shitty excel.
mircea_popescu: derp wants to think that hey, this is how i got bumped out of a great deal
mircea_popescu: what happened in fact however's a lot closer to http://trilema.com/2014/you-cannot-fix-a-machine-by-just-power-cycling-it-with-no-understanding-of-what-is-going-wrong/#selection-195.0-201.188
assbot: "You cannot fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no understanding of what is going wrong." on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwJDpi )
mircea_popescu: "Airbnb has of course gone on to execute exceptionally well and become what it is today."
mircea_popescu: they executed... nothing.
mircea_popescu: or if you will, they executed what groupon executed : a maddof in the background, in this case named graham, scammed some old ladies and wrote the details in a notebook bearing this title
mircea_popescu: i suppose this matters to some, what the title is.
mircea_popescu: yet the guy's own conclusion, in his own terms ?
mircea_popescu: "Losing a deal like Airbnb can be painful. Great lessons came from the rejection at the very end, however. After getting the cold shoulder, I realized I needed to go out and build some valuable knowledge, needed a more robust network, and needed to craft my own brand as an investor.
mircea_popescu: When I found Airbnb I was a nobody in the investing world, but I spent the next year afterward traveling around the US meeting founders and investors. I attended and hosted several dozen events and I talked to just about everybody in tech I could. I read voraciously and learned as much as possible from one-on-one conversations. I put in a full year of hard work before I did my next deal."
mircea_popescu: 30 iq part of brain engaged.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure "building his brand as an investor" is going to do exactly what "building her brand as an relationship expert" did for tlp's fave gori lottlieb. or whatever it was.
mircea_popescu: it's not like yc will be displaced by b-a, it's like his derpy www-persona has a chance and all that.
mircea_popescu: wuuut evars.
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mircea_popescu: heh. check this shit out "Not all investors are created equal. The winners are persistently the same relatively small groups of investors time after time. Success not only has positive signaling effects in attracting the factors that drive success, but also talent enhancing effects for the venture capitalists themselves." << now why exactly would this be ? successful sicentists aren't "always the same small group time
mircea_popescu: after time". senators however are.
BingoBoingo: http://journals.ama.org/doi/10.1509/jppm.14.020
assbot: An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwKwht )
mircea_popescu: poor assbot
shinohai: Here's some ass to cheer you up, assbot https://i.imgur.com/pk2nE7W.webm
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwKNBa )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/vladimir-oane-iz-meleonare/#selection-81.0-85.15 << if gabriel radio feels like translating ancient pieces on "venture capital" a la roumaine.
assbot: Vladimir Oane iz Meleonare!!! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwKOoD )
mircea_popescu: of course that shit exists. it's about as lulzy an affair as "romanian press" or whatever, "romanian secret services caught romanian isis agent"
ascii_field: 'soviet elephants are world's biggest elephants!111'
mircea_popescu: im sure there's also a paris, kentucky vc scene.
mircea_popescu: guys at the local bar, you know, watching shark tank on tv...
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: mega-s33kr1t: not all usian software firms are in sv..
mircea_popescu: "La 27 de ani, Vladimir Oane a riscat şi a reuşit. În doi ani, a pus pe picioare o afacere prin care monitorizează diverse reţele şi oferă statistici marilor branduri. Contractele au început să curgă." <<< for the lulz. romanian "airbnb could buy all of russia" thing.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field do not take the name of the dwwweb in vane!
mircea_popescu: if it isn't in scamicon valley THEN ITS NOT REALLY TECHNOLOGY
ascii_field: aaaha.
mircea_popescu: if it were it'd spend its capital on aeron chairs.
ascii_field has never even been there as a tourist. oughta go some day.
mircea_popescu: like "real" technologies.
ascii_field: before it drowns.
mircea_popescu: from what i hear from the locals it used to be great
mircea_popescu: back before all the midwestern carrie-bradshaw-wannabes showed up
ascii_field: phun phakt: at the u.s. army derpery where i once worked, aerons were MANDATORY
mircea_popescu: i guess just like new york in the 50s
BingoBoingo hasn't been to Paris, Kentucky either
ascii_field: and i had a forbidden cloth-backed chair that had to be hidden during inspections
ascii_field: fire code, you see.
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: i thought aerons are thread or some shit
mircea_popescu: ;;google paris, kentucky
gribble: City of Paris - Home: <http://www.paris.ky.gov/>; Paris, Kentucky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Kentucky>; Paris-Bourbon County Tourism: <http://www.pariskytourism.com/>
ascii_field: rubberized mesh
mircea_popescu: now you have, BingoBoingo
ascii_field turned down a few sv gigs recently
BingoBoingo: lol
mircea_popescu: oh i see, it wouldn't be "real" top quality if it weren't shit.
ascii_field: it was actually ok, didn't fall apart like every chair i've ever owned at home
ascii_field: (in 3+ yrs of arse time)
ascii_field: and had reasonably good pneumatics, that didn't leak air
ascii_field: iirc they're about 800 usd.
ascii_field: sold by herman miller furniture co.
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
nubbins`: for those who are interested in matters of pedigree, i just sold a casascius coin and the buyer paid an additional 1btc to have the pgp chain of custody extended
nubbins`: i expect this to be the minimum going forward
ascii_field: nubbins`: do you remember the thread where i described how to trivially rape such a coin ?
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nubbins`: i recall a discussion in which it was posited that a device to read private key would be easy enough to make
ascii_field: aha.
nubbins`: the holo stickers for the 1btc silvers were too large for the space on the coin & tended to lift at the edges, making for very easy solvent insertion -- most stickers were then burned around the rim with a laser to make a fried-on messy ring that allowed the sticker to lay flatter and ostensibly would reveal tampering more easily (they still flaked, saw it with mine own)
ascii_field: and you don't even need to remove the sticker.
nubbins`: nope
ascii_field: or physically alter the thing, or the coin, in any way.
nubbins`: today, for the first time outside of casascius' blog, i see a photo of an un-lasered sticker in an auction on the gooftalk forum
nubbins`: http://www.anony.ws/i/2015/12/09/PC090015.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwMxu4 )
nubbins`: shadows, even!
nubbins`: anyway, i figure counterfeits are a much more common issue going forward
nubbins`: i've only seen poor quality ones in the wild so far
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mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> (they still flaked, saw it with mine own) << there's a reason thermosensors are made out of two different materials stuck to each other. that reason is that this problem of geometric affixing is INCREDIBLY hard.
ascii_field: aha!
ascii_field: check out glass-to-metal bonds sometime
ascii_field: can spend a lifetime on just that.
ascii_field: (was a mega-issue in vacuum valve manufacture)
ascii_field: all of this will have to be re-discovered.
ascii_field: j. strong's 'methods of experimental physics' covers the basics; the whole b00k is somewhere w4r3z3d in the logz.
mircea_popescu: yup
mircea_popescu: and temperature envelopes are always a thing
mircea_popescu: you won't ever have a "for all temperatures" bond.
mircea_popescu: (which is why the way to get chewing gum out of stuff is to deepfreeze the stuff)
ascii_field: aha
ascii_field: nor will you, other than at some considerable expense and choice of constrained envelope - have a linear one.
BingoBoingo: http://gotnews.com/6065-2/
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BingoBoingo: http://www.openbsd.org/papers/hackfest2015-pledge/mgp00003.html
assbot: MagicPoint presentation foils ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y39xl2 )
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: 'Twitter is a natural monopoly. Outrageous Chuck Johnson is still banned after all this time. They're showing why they need to be regulated.'
ascii_field: mega-l0l
BingoBoingo: lol
ascii_field: it's a public utility now!1111
BingoBoingo: for srs
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what other is the purpose of facebook ?
BingoBoingo: I have no idea
mircea_popescu: sounds a lot like the story of the man upset that he went to the brothel, and they touched him in a sexually suggestive manner.
mircea_popescu: in other news, trilema used to have a fb and a twitter where some webapp (that no doubt is a great success) dumped the rss
mircea_popescu: i see the facebook feed's dead, but can't be arsed to look into it
mircea_popescu: about me "i found my first security holes in 1987" sooo... she's 30 ?
mircea_popescu: otherwise, who's chuck johnson and what's gotnews.com
BingoBoingo: He's the derp who is somewhat aligned with weev
mircea_popescu: https://arenavc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/airbnb_2nd_budget.png << best lulz. srsly, this is why they need excel ?
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3b36I )
ascii_field: http://www.openbsd.org/papers/hackfest2015-pledge/mgp00035.html << win
assbot: MagicPoint presentation foils ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3b3na )
BingoBoingo: Johnson has occasonal moments of lucidity, but otherwise seems to largely have been caught up in the otherside of USG propaganda machine
ascii_field: incidentally, how do folks actually pronounce 'airbnb' ?
ascii_field: i always say 'airbnob'
ascii_field: (as in door knob)
mircea_popescu: http://gawker.com/what-is-chuck-johnson-and-why-the-web-s-worst-journal-1666834902 << gawker has a story on some twitter brigading or w/e.
assbot: What Is Chuck Johnson, and Why? The Web’s Worst Journalist, Explained ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3b5vx )
mircea_popescu: still unsure why anyone'd give a shit. twitter ? wut ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field iirc they were something like averypoorlynamedbedandbreakfast.com originally
mircea_popescu: could perhaps just read it out.
mircea_popescu: "It’s not just Johnson’s attitude toward people of color who’ve been victimized by cops. Johnson in general likes to retaliate against certain individuals by publishing their personal information (a.k.a. doxxing). A recent example: After the New York Times published a copy of former Ferguson cop Darren Wilson’s marriage certificate, and named the street on which he used to live, Johnson published the home addre
mircea_popescu: sses—down to the house and apartment numbers—of the pair of reporters who authored the Times story. The headline read: “Why Can’t We Publish Addresses Of New York Times Reporters?”"
mircea_popescu: awwww.
mircea_popescu: doubleplusbad.
mircea_popescu: how to get the leahs all bothered up - take their online anonimity away.
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ascii_field: i still don't get why they care
ascii_field: what happens when the address is posted? dump trucks full of shit show up ?
ascii_field: anyone with fiddybux can find out, e.g., where i live
mircea_popescu: it's a mental issue.
ascii_field: so far not even broken window.
mircea_popescu: they don't want to be what they are. that's not their real self.
mircea_popescu: you can readily verify this by, for instance, asking "rape" victim if she got wet during the events.
ascii_field: and 'real self' is... what? napoleon ?
mircea_popescu: the physical world BETRAYS THE SACRED DREAMS OF SOCIALISM
mircea_popescu: "Far more noteworthy than any of Johnson’s journalism stunts, however, is his intellectual pedigree.
mircea_popescu: What do you mean?
mircea_popescu: Johnson’s isn’t really a marginal or peripheral figure in mainstream conservatism"
mircea_popescu: this bit is golden. 26 yo derp is a figure, of any kind ?
mircea_popescu: what is this shit!
ascii_field: if he were 46 - different
ascii_field: ?
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00049246 = 7.9532 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68250 @ 0.0004838 = 33.0194 BTC [-] {7}
BingoBoingo: Also in Australia http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/death-of-obese-daughter-spurs-heartbroken-parents-to-help-another-teenager/news-story/eb71cfcc0fbb1dd3e78ebb1798fd0ba2
assbot: Eating disorders: Death of obese daughter spurs heartbroken parents to help another teenager ... ( http://bit.ly/1OROZeK )
BingoBoingo: 254 kilograms
mircea_popescu: some help.
mircea_popescu: http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/01/sorry-chuck-todd-but-reporters-are-not-the-referees-of-politics/ << somewhat lulzy.
assbot: Sorry, Chuck Todd, But Reporters Aren't The Referees Of Politics ... ( http://bit.ly/1ORPWDK )
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7781 @ 0.00049375 = 3.8419 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00048243 = 11.4336 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up BashCo
BashCo: Thanks BingoBoingo. Hi folks.
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