⏐︎ 8458
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15502 @ 0.00048337 = 7.4932 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/12/missouri-phone-purchases-put-police-on-edge/#comment-82088
assbot: Missouri Phone Purchases Put Police On Edge | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTDK08 )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2015/12/missouri-phone-purchases-put-police-on-edge/#comment-82090
assbot: Missouri Phone Purchases Put Police On Edge | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTE8ff )
asciilifeform: if the implication of the nyooz piece is a 'gunpowder plot' involving propane bottles and gsm detonators, expect 'emergency powerz' in the near term
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "blood is the best lubricant. well, other than tears" line of thought ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha but there is such a thing as too much. ultimately the activity needs friction
asciilifeform: or we'd all happily fuck thin air
mircea_popescu: that's what the pubococcygeus is for!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18878 @ 0.00048337 = 9.1251 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: obligatory: http://www.theinfosphere.org/Kegelcizer
assbot: Kegelcizer - The Infosphere, the Futurama Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1NLvnrX )
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i dun get it... so the news is that some people bought some phones in bunfuck ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341452 << see also mega-shortstory, 'watchbird', r. sheckley ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 23:02:50; *: adlai is in favor of death penalties for those who are in favor of warrants in all forms - arrest, execution, stock, etc. leads to a 'more polite society'...
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: News is that + Police cared + Police push narrative cheap phnoes are untouchable
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by the crateful, in two sittings, by 'evil-looking men with foreign accents'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48884 @ 0.00048272 = 23.5973 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: i guess huh.
asciilifeform: phun phakt: legendarily, the columbine incident involved a propane tank
asciilifeform: but this is largely forgotten, because h & k were not clueful and failed to detonate
asciilifeform: (if it had gone off, potentially ~no one would know~ who was the trigger man, and why, etc)
mircea_popescu: i don't get this. propane tank has significantly lower potential than gasoline bucket. harder to handle. why bother.
asciilifeform: fuel-air
asciilifeform: good kinetics.
mircea_popescu: this is disadvantageous.
mircea_popescu: gasoline covers surfaces.
mircea_popescu: air burning is a waste of fuel.
asciilifeform: demolition is entirely a kinetics thing and not at all a thermodynamic thing
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But "Action Movie" says so
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're not demolishing anything with a propane tank.
asciilifeform: (e.g., dynamite has considerably less joule/g vs petrol)
asciilifeform: with solely a tank - no.
mircea_popescu: now dump that much gasoline on the fake carpeting and set it ablaze.
BingoBoingo: Propane tank thefts likely seriously not connected. Prolly just meth cooks.
asciilifeform: !s happyland
assbot: 2 results for 'happyland' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=happyland
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wouldn't they just buy it ?
mircea_popescu: meth cooking does make money, right ?
mircea_popescu: it's not just a hobby for retards.
BingoBoingo: Not when cooking for self
BingoBoingo: Turrorists bought pnohes
asciilifeform: phun phakt: meth was reinvented in su during 1980s. but there was more or less NO MARKET because folks were clueful and readily synthesized for personal use
asciilifeform: from (at the time) readily available items
adlai: asciilifeform: care to elaborate on http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=406 ?
assbot: #bitcoin-assets bash ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTGgnb )
asciilifeform: adlai: can start here, http://www.embedded.com/design/safety-and-security/4419247/Developing-secure-code-using-SPARK--Part-2---How-to-use-it
assbot: Developing secure code using SPARK: Part 2 – How to use it | Embedded ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTGpah )
asciilifeform: just to get a taste.
asciilifeform: adlai: http://www.adacore.com/knowledge/technical-papers/safe-secure << moar examples than you could possibly want (warning, pdf)
assbot: Safe and Secure Software - An invitation to Ada 2005 | Technical Papers | Knowledge Center | AdaCore ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTGJWm )
mircea_popescu: !up amiller
adlai dons gasmask
mircea_popescu: in bathroom news, http://45.media.tumblr.com/02dd3bcf6021173f9927b38d126aada2/tumblr_meowu6E1a71rqttn1o1_500.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTH63c )
asciilifeform: adlai: http://cs.fit.edu/~ryan/ada/programs << mega-collection of examples ☟︎
assbot: Ada Programs ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTHkaB )
asciilifeform: in spiffy colour even.
adlai can't find the specific example in the mega-collection of naggums, but he's looking for something other than toy examples... manuals are always welcome references, as are anecdotes that would be worth including in their margins
asciilifeform: adlai: the ultimate non-toy example is... the compiler
asciilifeform: (written in ada, yes)
asciilifeform: this being said, the language is not a favourite among the open sores crowd and so you will not find a great many full-length megaprojects in public
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asciilifeform: aside from this, http://www.seas.gwu.edu/~mfeldman/ada-project-summary.html
assbot: Who's Using Ada? ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTIvHd )
asciilifeform: adlai: if you want the manual, it can be had; be sure to get the 'rationale' document also
asciilifeform: it comes with 'chapter & verse' concordance (like a bible)
adlai: yes i've been looping through its tasking facility for months (years?)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45450 @ 0.00048482 = 22.0351 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg13210862#msg13210862 << cryptsy finally pulls the runner.
assbot: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTLAH9 )
BingoBoingo: Oh shit. I gotta go to my meeting. If anyone wants to do this in the next 2 hours it would be appreciated. Otherwise I'll write something up after sobertime.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69750 @ 0.00047809 = 33.3468 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: it's just cryptsy. 3/10 shits given, if that.
BingoBoingo: Of course it's just one of those small lumpy constipation shits, but a win is a win.
BingoBoingo: brb
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33700 @ 0.00047702 = 16.0756 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57200 @ 0.00047702 = 27.2855 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49153 @ 0.00047927 = 23.5576 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39051 @ 0.00047949 = 18.7246 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: http://foto-history.livejournal.com/8378510.html << historical interest, re: punishments. ☟︎
asciilifeform: (focus on asian flavours)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 131550 @ 0.000477 = 62.7494 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28450 @ 0.00048348 = 13.755 BTC [+] {2}
shinohai: https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/16181/115662641.71/0_135a47_a6c4327c_orig.jpg <<< well that one is rather grim, assbot
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3BpuO )
shinohai: * asciilifeform
asciilifeform: shinohai: caption is, 'trophy' of dja-lama - a skin 'artistically' removed from a live kyrghyzian warrior
asciilifeform: n00bs seem to think that isis et al are the first folks to partake in this kind of sport with modern cameras rolling, but this is not so.
danielpbarron: from the crypty lulz >> Maybe also using other alts to withdraw your money could work but as I read many people discussed that some alts work, some other don't so I used the same way to get out as I got in via Doge. << rather than get outa dodge it's get out via doge!
mircea_popescu: https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9168/115662641.71/0_135a2a_22176fb0_orig.jpg << nb.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nh62Vn )
asciilifeform: that one's famous
asciilifeform: iirc - nanjing
mircea_popescu: aha. great pic.
asciilifeform: quite anatomically illustrative !
mircea_popescu: yup
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45080 @ 0.0004819 = 21.7241 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00048481 = 10.5689 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115604 @ 0.00048685 = 56.2818 BTC [+] {3}
adlai: anything more tangible than http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2014#705346 regarding its validity for bitbet resolution? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-06-2014 13:20:54; dub: bittrex looks ok, seems to be real people
mircea_popescu: !s bittrex
assbot: 30 results for 'bittrex' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bittrex
adlai saved you the other 29
shinohai: lol buttrex
mircea_popescu: seemz a lulsfest.
asciilifeform: in other despatches from the dept.-of-things-i-had-no-idea-i-needed, http://www.alchemywebsite.com/bookshop/reading_texts_course.html
assbot: Study Course on Reading alchemical texts ... ( http://bit.ly/1IKURFm )
mircea_popescu: * Loaded log from Fri Dec 12 02:17:53 2014
mircea_popescu: heh!
asciilifeform: 'How to read alchemical texts An introductory study course for the perplexed'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hermeneutics is a thing yo.
asciilifeform: aha!
adlai retires to meditate on upon shorting in the age of crippled markets
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00048687 = 14.4114 BTC [+]
adlai: !v assbot:adlai.rate.luke-jr.10:0c6030d0625cf90570bf09dce24b99a56dfb5a99bdb26b22ab8cfd7695c05c55
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for luke-jr from 10 to 10 with note: highly amusing, misunderestimatood architect of OP_CONSEQUENCEVERIFY
danielpbarron: wtf 10 !? ☟︎
adlai: stopping to hurl threats at lemmings for long enough to watch them play in their own language does a world of good to your blood pressure
adlai: anybody who cares to find out what that rating means can probably understand it from reviewing the background to all the !s drama
danielpbarron: !rated Luke-Jr
assbot: You rated user Luke-Jr on 16-Dec-2014, with a rating of -6, and supplied these additional notes: He tried to add blacklisting to bitcoin..
adlai: once y'all get over the dick measuring you'll realize that supporting larger vN blocks is the cheapest way to reduce vM block capacity, short of paying miners to generate empty blocks, or the existence of a free market for negative block space
adlai: lol yes, another one of my ideas not worth self-censoring is a free market for provable tx censorship... basically anything that gets money a better megaphone to fund its own security ☟︎
adlai: or properly taglined, "a place for miners to sell the only good they're licensed to manufacture"
danielpbarron: whatever that means, it still remains that bitcoin as it exists today is a giant ball of turd. The priority should be on deturdification before major rule changes, especially considering that no such changes are currently required to ensure its survival
adlai: i didn't say pay the guy to break it
mircea_popescu: adlai if you read carefully, nobody gave a shit at any point about what the congenitally retarded / ustards do in their bathroom.
mircea_popescu: the slaps start flowing once they start talking out of it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37900 @ 0.00048063 = 18.2159 BTC [-]
adlai: well, "you threw the wrong bitch out the window"
mircea_popescu: impossible by definition.
mircea_popescu: "beat your wife every day. if you don't know why, she does."
adlai fails to understand how "let's softfork blabla blabla blabla anything" can be viewed as anything other than playing in the bathtub
adlai: note that neither sipa nor Luke-Jr nor most anybody else is advocating for a hardfork.
adlai: as far as i can tell, the only person who mentions hardforking segwit after this idea is your favorite costume artist
adlai: softforks by definition are a bathtub game between miners and cautious experimenters
adlai: let idiots lose their own money. jeez. i'm done with this topic, back to my usual bullshit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33580 @ 0.00048051 = 16.1355 BTC [-] {2}
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-12-2015#1341661 <<< my estimation exactly. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2015 03:14:22; danielpbarron: wtf 10 !?
mircea_popescu: lol.
shinohai: Wasn't it just last week he was considering doing work for the nvxim cult or whatever it's called?
adlai: !v assbot:adlai.rate.luke-jr.9:42a21f2c611b5b48d8b90a449d8fcdc30b99282e695ebe497f19d43b6c71106c
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for luke-jr from 10 to 9 with note: still claims via solicited PM that he plans to break bitcoin someday
shinohai: The usg would prlly like to have a chat with him then.
adlai: yeah, i left a positive rating so they know he's good for it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28850 @ 0.00048002 = 13.8486 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: * adlai fails to understand how "let's softfork blabla blabla blabla anything" can be viewed as anything other than playing in the bathtub << The Jim Crow "soft phork" isn't anything near soft in the way previous ones have been. Would blocks still verify on actual bitcoind? Sure. Transactions? lol nope.
adlai: lol you don't have to run code with real money to read it
BingoBoingo: Read what? That there's a link to different data structure where actual signatures are? How the fuck does actual bitcoind get "witnesses"
adlai: bitcoind gets steal-friendly witnesses, from bold experimenters who sacrifice their Bitcoin on the altars of the mine-verify greed-off
adlai: if you'd prefer to stick to Bitcoin, your witnesses remain safe and sound in txins where for better or worse Our Prophet Satoshi intended them to be
adlai: !s writtit
assbot: 1 results for 'writtit' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=writtit
adlai: if you're not a party to testing tepid bathtub nucleation, then you're unable to steal the vJimCrow witnesses
BingoBoingo: "Standards" https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=144987773230417&w=2
shinohai: I'm sorry, if the whole history isn't there then *it isn't bitcoin*
adlai just ran out of tulip tokens for defending ideas he can neither long nor short, back to midwifing s.mpoe's self-identity crisis
BingoBoingo: Look there somethings you can let the derps fart out in their bubble bath. Some things like this though actually run the risk of being taken seriously by the Chicoms.
BingoBoingo: http://www.fdesouche.com/678995-maitrisons-sexuellement-les-petites-frontistes-decerebrees-engrossons-les-lobs-supprime-une-tribune
assbot: «Maitrisons sexuellement les petites frontistes décérébrées" (Màj) - Fdesouche ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfY99F )
adlai: !s animals anyway
assbot: 3 results for 'animals anyway' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=animals+anyway
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00047893 = 12.4522 BTC [-] {2}
adlai hates it when the market speaks to him in numbers... or loves it, for they sometimes tickle his whiskers
adlai: ;;seen live.coinbr.com
gribble: I have not seen live.coinbr.com.
adlai: dancing blind today
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00047893 = 12.5959 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: "Based on their findings, Braverman and his coauthor, New York State Commissioner of Health Nirav Shah, M.D., say the BMI threshold for obesity, which now stands at 30, should be lowered to 24 for women and 28 for men." << http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/03/health/obesity-rates-maybe-worse/
assbot: Obesity rate may be worse than we think - CNN.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfZuNZ )
adlai is listening to: Ott - Live at Gnomelandia (55:13)
adlai: meh. it's 'signals from bob' and confucius heraclitus s.plato etc etc
trinque: adlai: I saw them live when they were Ott and the All Seeing I.
adlai will see them do that same shit in ~14 hours
trinque: was a good show
adlai: in the meat.
adlai: worth the credit card debt.
adlai says so before he's even had to liquidate time or btc to repay
adlai: where'd you see them trinque ?
trinque: Portland, at a venue called Branx
adlai notes to self that scripts[igs] are to be trusted as far as you can chuckem
adlai: i'd deed something about passing a paper wallet to the asshole who plot twists by turning around and passing the fucking joint before the atom splits, but my hopes are not enough to collect the donation on that one
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-12-2015#1341667 << how's this work ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2015 03:21:25; adlai: lol yes, another one of my ideas not worth self-censoring is a free market for provable tx censorship... basically anything that gets money a better megaphone to fund its own security
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49600 @ 0.00047879 = 23.748 BTC [-] {4}
adlai: negative block space
adlai: trivially verifiable, take your pick of extra shenanigans on top. it's worthless but idiots will pay for it.
trinque: how is that distinct from the txspam "attacks"
adlai: it increases revenue for miners that follow their free market boners, while providing a clearer signal of the hand that rubs them
asciilifeform: i suspect that we'll be seeing some variant of this quite soon
asciilifeform: on a usg scale
adlai: quite possibly, i'm still waiting for luke to explain/publish his crafty draftings
adlai: and/or issue a death warrant on me for trying to build a better mute button for our megaphone
adlai: the magic of bitcoin is that you don't have to press either one of them, you can just shout until the button breaks of its own idiocy
asciilifeform: 'go ahead and transmit your tx to the free^H^H^H^Hterrorist world, but be prepared to wait two years for a confirmation. or you can send to u.s. fed miner and get in the next block.' ☟︎
asciilifeform: ('legal transactions only')
adlai: really, if it thinks such a scheme will pass, i invite the sexprs into my neural sandbox
trinque: here comes danielpbarron to quote rev 13:16
asciilifeform: did i miss a tray of lsd being passed around earlier.
adlai: what tray, there were only two cubes :(
trinque: probably ott's fault.
adlai: perhaps, the market is known to precede itself
adlai waits for marines to kick down some door, see you on the other side of the burlap sack
asciilifeform: adlai: the 'free market for negative block space' follows trivially from the scheme discussed in the old thread, where miner optimizes for fee/byte
asciilifeform: you can occupy as much space as you like by bidding up.
asciilifeform: fill it with whatever.
adlai: and there's no public way to politely request that hashpower babysitters bid down
asciilifeform: 'free market' doesn't come with a 'let's all chill and think and do we really want thermonukefest??' button
adlai: beyond bitchering about relaying as though your nodeship can seed the clouds
asciilifeform: if prisoner's dilemma somehow solved itself, you wouldn't need miners to begin with
adlai: seriously though, i have logs better worth burning my carpal tunnels over, and they tend to come in parenthesized pairs
adlai: (who knew neuron space could be so prosaically constrained!)
asciilifeform: looks like Vexual's vacant chair is finally filled ?
adlai at least tries, when picking lsd visions to distill into signed code, to look out for bitcoin's well-being
adlai isn't sure what title Vexual's chair ever bore?
adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-10-2015#1292413 << i'd nominate pete himself for this one :P ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 23:19:14; pete_dushenski: if so, there go all my crank theories, right out the window !
adlai: he at least seems to have bought his voice with money, whereas i seem so far to retain it because the wot finds what i say or do sufficiently profitable or funny
asciilifeform: wai wut
adlai: !gettrust
assbot: You need to specify one (or two) nicks.
adlai: ffs whatever happened to context
adlai leaves it to the sufficiently motivated plumber
asciilifeform: !gettrust pete_dushenski
assbot: Trust relationship from user asciilifeform to user pete_dushenski: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 13 via 9 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=asciilifeform&to=pete_dushenski | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/pete_dushenski/
BingoBoingo: Wait adlai is this the vexual is satoshi theory?
adlai: nah satoshi is some guy in #zennet who thinks i don't understand O(bullshit)
adlai wanted to bitbet short puts on the AGRS altcoin, but it turns out to not even be more than TLS-signed bittrext
adlai: the brains behind it spin a bullshit game that would make robert viragh proud
BingoBoingo wonders if there is a 12 step group for LSD adlai can explore, remembers medically induced ibogaine hallucinations likely conntributed to Bill's spiritual experience ☟︎
adlai: nah bro haven't you heard, it's the self limiting drug
asciilifeform: https://mises.org/library/ten-economic-blunders-history << lulzy, found by chance
assbot: Ten Economic Blunders from History | Mises Daily ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3SJj9 )
adlai: http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1005713 << possibly intriguing for any meth witches in the audience with a poor bullshit game
assbot: PLOS Genetics: Hnrnph1 Is A Quantitative Trait Gene for Methamphetamine Sensitivity ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3SULk )
adlai: bwah 'The market, known as the Policy Analysis Market, or PAM, never got off the ground. Democrat politicians in the Senate uncovered the plan in July 2003 and it was dropped amid public outcry. Ron Wyden, a Democratic senator from Oregon, expressed the prevailing attitude when he said that "The idea of a federal betting parlour on atrocities and terrorism is ridiculous and it's grotesque."'
asciilifeform: ahahaha the admiral poindexter thing
adlai didn't realize the oft-mentioned godfather of predixhun markets was behind this
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47150 @ 0.00048425 = 22.8324 BTC [+] {5}
adlai: asciilifeform: while your room 101 may contain electric anthills (used to get tease out the bitcoin you don't 'own'), /me expects to get lazzaroed for association-by-homage with the 'coinjoin scammers' or somesuch
asciilifeform: each of us will get an anthill 'entirely his own and fully adequate for him' (to borrow a mircea_popescuism)
adlai: the best use of the such
trinque expects to succumb to some pollution or diet related illness and die the usual way.
adlai: dude carpal tunnel is terminal for brogrammers
trinque: go lift weights.
asciilifeform: them that die will be the lucky ones (tm) (r) (treasure island)
adlai: unfortunately it costs less btc to keep another human alive than it does to kill yourself, and not even malthus could've foreseen this tragedy
adlai: but call me when they're paying bitcoin for aborted stem cells
trinque: how is that?
trinque: obligatory borrowed gun, bought bullet reference.
adlai: well the pay bitcoin-by-proxy for cumshots!
adlai invokes http://www.thebricktestament.com/genesis/er_and_onan/gn38_09.html
assbot: The Brick Testament ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3UBIH )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33950 @ 0.00047855 = 16.2468 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: there's something amazing about getting a whisker signal before assbot, and waiting to see which direction it guesses
adlai: fwiw (more bullshit not worth deeding) i will pay all my personal profits to date to the L1 who provides the correct conjuring of their extraction from public ticker data
adlai: it's worth a couple bitcents, wait a while and call me on this bullshit if i'm still around after we've given andreas rastapopoulous his two years
adlai: obviously this payment is only owed if the proof is in a form acceptable to any and all future investors in my shinola distillery, usg ktulu or otherwise
adlai: offer null and void for usg's L_n presence, its keys don't verify with the blessed rings
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00048678 = 4.6731 BTC [+] {2}
adlai: there's a lightning network pun in here but i'm too spent to kill the joke. nite, or morning, as the custom may dictate
BingoBoingo: <trinque> go lift weights. << Pin Tren for carpal tunnel.
BingoBoingo: !up justanotheruser
adlai: 'The fictitious people in the zoo had a big board supposedly showing stock market quotations and com-modity prices along one wall of their habitat, and a news ticker, and a telephone that was supposedly connected to a brokerage on Earth. The creatures on Zircon-101 had told their captives that they had invested a million bitcoins for them back on Earth, and that it was up to the captives to manage it
adlai: so that they would be fabulously wealthy when they were returned to Earth.' - more from kenny v
adlai invites agents of all horsemen, not just USG, to make such proof worthless; not because he's too lazy to make it worthwhile himself, but because he just wants two coins to rub together
adlai: some guy bought them off me once for a pittance by today's rates >_>
adlai: 'worthless' even if correctly produced, for the intentionally obtuse in the lurker gallery
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40283 @ 0.00048692 = 19.6146 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34517 @ 0.00049056 = 16.9327 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45280 @ 0.00048481 = 21.9522 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: !up 4886 https://youtu.be/BDxjXWQ8oro (spoilers! he dies at the end)
assbot: you're my GOD DAMN HERO.wmv - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1mg5KFm )
adlai: more from the "whence D-wave's IPO paycheck" department, https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3wfmg2/satoshis_unmoved_coins_are_the_worlds_biggest/
assbot: Satoshi's unmoved coins are the world's biggest prize in quantum-decryption, the canary in bitcoin's quantum coalmine : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1On9trc )
adlai: "The day is quickly approaching where even if someone were to sign a message using Satoshi's known coin hoard addresses, we should think twice about whether this person actually is Satoshi or not" ☟︎
adlai: shut up and get in line for your trilema credits like a good boy, satoshi. your money is as good as anybody else's.
adlai notes that his own leaked keys hardly budged
adlai: so satoshi-minutes are worth somewhere between a deedbot and a bitcent
adlai: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 410.47, vol: 43067.03987488 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 407.316, vol: 25074.7603 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 411.3, vol: 127788.60787139 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 452.0, vol: 5.81748064 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 415.241712, vol: 183926.44340000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 408.0, vol: 503.19544403 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 423.192010992, vol: 194.34333951 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
adlai: ;;more
gribble: 412.850947599
adlai: oops.
adlai: pls winkledinks give me my time-btc back, i wish i'd dumped them at the parabolic fulcrum
adlai: attention SPV devils, your v3 headers become newsworthy in roughly (exp 1) days
adlai counts dots off http://bitcoin.sipa.be/ver-2k.png, sadly open source is quicker to kill than pay for itself
assbot: 404 - Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1Onb0gT )
adlai: bleh. one for the picture gallery: https://archive.is/Km6Xy
assbot: ver-10k.png (1280x800 pixels) ... ( http://bit.ly/1Onb7t1 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72350 @ 0.00048962 = 35.424 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24850 @ 0.00048373 = 12.0207 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.0004906 = 3.2625 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3021 @ 0.000483 = 1.4591 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.000483 = 8.7423 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i had no idea BingoBoingo is cajun enough to read french
BingoBoingo: I don't read french.
BingoBoingo: I violenced the text until it gave up its salient points.
mircea_popescu: hahaha. what did you gather from the violation ?
BingoBoingo: I gathered that French libertard liek rape more than MP. Seriously that brown people should rape all the FN women business is what Obama has to be thinking.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-12-2015#1341740 <<< not as easy as it sounds. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2015 04:30:25; asciilifeform: 'go ahead and transmit your tx to the free^H^H^H^Hterrorist world, but be prepared to wait two years for a confirmation. or you can send to u.s. fed miner and get in the next block.'
BingoBoingo: Nordic system on crack.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo basically the french version of the redditard decided that right wing females appreciate macho men. further decided that all men are the same, and that includes him. further decided that hey, if they queue up to kneel for mp, why not for him. figured out that this is ridiculous, so instead of doing it wrote about it. everyone [that never does anything] got all excited about it, then realised it's meaningles
mircea_popescu: s so decided to delete it because if deleted it's somehow protected from its meaninglessness.
BingoBoingo: Ah
mircea_popescu: as some derpy woman said, "congrats to the winners [which is everyone]"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform specifically : to guarantee your transactions are on average included the same day, you need control over ~0.5% of the network.
mircea_popescu: to obtain similar performance to wires in this respect [delay only, not in all the others, you still get bitcoin, rather than usg-fiat moved around] you need a 0.2%ish of the network.
mircea_popescu: interdiciton is hard.
mircea_popescu: specifically to get your two years interdiction, usg needs to control 99.999% of the network, and admitting half an exahash was legit that requires they get a further 50 or so yotahashes. and that nobody else does anything.
BingoBoingo: http://oglaf.com/spectrophilia/
assbot: Spectrophilia ... ( http://bit.ly/1No9cnW )
mircea_popescu: nb
mircea_popescu: "The idea of a federal betting parlour on atrocities and terrorism is ridiculous and it's grotesque."' << so ?
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "the pornstar is brunette and tall." mkay ?
mircea_popescu: got anything at the actual topic ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-12-2015#1341822 << lmao the philipino dept hard at work. no, the day isn't approaching, quickly or otherwise. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2015 06:01:33; adlai: "The day is quickly approaching where even if someone were to sign a message using Satoshi's known coin hoard addresses, we should think twice about whether this person actually is Satoshi or not"
mircea_popescu: for one thing, "quickly" is a non-quantum concept.
adlai: further on the "look what doesn't seem to have made logs yet" topic, the plaintext wripped from http://arxiv.org/abs/1011.0423 : http://dpaste.com/3F4D2G2.txt
assbot: [1011.0423] A note comprising a negative resolution of the Efficient Market Hypothesis ... ( http://bit.ly/1NM4jZH )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NM4jsv )
adlai: forget the businessman, clergy don't hold a candle to the nigerians
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58050 @ 0.00048246 = 28.0068 BTC [-] {3}
adlai: seems to have stolen a leaf from the book of ,,seen herbijudlestoids
adlai: fucking robots used to work, once
adlai: if androids dream of dead ghosts masturbating, but no Tulip cluster simulate their moans, does that still constitute spectrofilia?
BingoBoingo: Test all the children: "While the old ISAT test often saw as many as 95 percent of students meeting or exceeding standards, the highest-scoring school in St. Clair, Madison, Monroe or Clinton counties was Damiansville Elementary in Clinton County, with a proficiency score of 69.2 percent, and the lowest-performing school was Lovejoy Elementary in Brooklyn with a proficiency rate of zero."
adlai: what was it testing, how to compile and `gpg --gen-keys` ?
adlai: i hear you get least-positive-bignum points on the SAT for this
BingoBoingo: Kommon Kore
adlai has heard back from the latest incarnation of the Bcc funnel, this one with a request to cheatsheet https://chatsecure.org/blog/using-ed25519-public-keys-as-identifiers/ for the interview << more in the 'reinventing wot' dept
assbot: Better XMPP Identifiers - Ed25519 Public Keys and .onions — ChatSecure ... ( http://bit.ly/1NM4UKQ )
mircea_popescu: anyway, the diocletian edict is a fine example. the problem isn't even economic there, it's purely political. "oh, we have a problem we don't know how to solve, here's some red tape" "tell you what - it's not worth the risk of dealing with your red tape AT ALL. see ya". "oh noes! who could have predicted!"
adlai: crowdsourcing 'peer' review from hacker news, and they don't even pay shares by the wordcount!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38550 @ 0.00048403 = 18.6594 BTC [+] {2}
adlai: mircea_popescu: i really wish red tape will kill all the stupid ideas dreamt up tonight
adlai: alas for i can't stuff the worst ones back into my tendons
adlai: and from our new Arithmancy professors, http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2015/12/11/should-you-invest-in-bitcoin-10-arguments-in-favor-as-of-december-2015/
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NM5IPN )
adlai: "A comparison to gold suggests Bitcoin could be undervalued" don't go driving any nonsmall amounts, we may have to take your bullshit seriously as well!
mircea_popescu prepares the 2016 version of the "stop buying" article.
mircea_popescu: these idiots are all ready to fuck things over. "oh, it went up, buy buy buy!11"
mircea_popescu: imbeciles.
adlai: nah let them riff a little, it's their role in nature's "greedy algorithm" bullshit detector
adlai: "More investors are taking it seriously and using it as a portfolio diversifier" go on, elaborate how billionaires hedge their penny stock exposure with hard currency
adlai: next up they'll be telling you when and where to short mpex
adlai: that'll be the "shut up and buy" signal, i guess
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00048075 = 6.1776 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340346 << they don't bite my fisheye scopes and 'assault handles' either,.. https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-wizards/2015-12-06/?msg=55542590&page=2 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 14:40:00; asciilifeform: ('wizards' is where they spend all day thinking of what shit-to-bolt-on-the-side-of-the-kalash)
assbot: IRC Logs for #bitcoin-wizards | BotBot.me [o__o] ... ( http://bit.ly/1NM6NXP )
adlai: in relevant news, if STRML or anybody else from bitMEX ever shows up, i'd love to eat their fee discounts on managing DPE risk
mircea_popescu: !up STRML
adlai has no idea how to valuate that risk but when did that ever stop idiots
adlai: 3.. 2... 1.
adlai keeps poring over their arithmancy documentation
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/66f289fd8e09567d8e0b462b7334d05e/tumblr_n87njjfmGi1qetydwo1_500.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NobVxC )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.00048855 = 15.2916 BTC [+] {4}
adlai: mircea_popescu: where do you dredge up all this... and how come these sluts don't get to earn their bitcents too?
mircea_popescu: the history folder, and because they're too old now.
mircea_popescu: can't be 20 forever.
adlai: superfish business model! targeted whoring based on reverse-image-crawling links to your own naked likeness
adlai rushes to the trademark press
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29800 @ 0.00049079 = 14.6255 BTC [+] {3}
adlai: mircea_popescu: did i ever mention one of my meatspace drink buddies who denies that i quote anybody but him when referencing the "problem of too much money"?
adlai: he's now gone parroting this on to other jooz, even in the same discussion as "so uh is it a good time to buy bitcoin maybe because it's regulated?"
mircea_popescu: mkay ?
adlai hopes somebody has a Plan around effigy-attributed trb vpatches, because i know enough C++ to swear myself fit to neither generate nor verify that bullshit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42350 @ 0.0004872 = 20.6329 BTC [-] {4}
punkman: /me was talking at some kind of computer/security/bitcoin workshop in dreamworld
punkman: perhaps a sign
punkman: mircea_popescu: what's the mpex referal fee now?
mircea_popescu: punkman still 10 iirc.
adlai: unfortunately my meatspace acquaintances, even the ones controlling enough btc to make them worth referring, think they know where and how to best invest it - themselves
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55600 @ 0.0004848 = 26.9549 BTC [-] {3}
punkman: adlai: you might be better off talking to people that don't have any btc yet
adlai: they tend to either encourage me to keep playing around with my play-btc, or feign interest in the hope of nucleating a tradable price signal out of my sykobabble
adlai is proud to report that his meatspace btcfiat signal remains peerlessly indistinguishable from monkeys at a typewriter
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105072 @ 0.00048299 = 50.7487 BTC [-] {4}
adlai: makes one feel comfortable in humanity / retardation / childishness / etc
adlai: monkeys that make good bitbet payouts! but suck at timing anything asymmetric larger than a banknote or two
adlai has a gist floating around that may be welcome (after some digestion) in bitbet.py, under the "betting both sides" department
adlai: but the tool still needs a couple more trials before pressing blueprints
adlai: ;;seen mike_c
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 1 day, 8 hours, 1 minute, and 40 seconds ago: <mike_c> let's get that thing out the door and get alf some goddamn bitcoin already
adlai: !search from:adlai ;;seen
assbot: 29 results for 'from:adlai ;;seen' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Aadlai+%3B%3Bseen
adlai: ok that's all from the broken record department (for tonight, folks)
adlai: !down adlai
BingoBoingo: * mircea_popescu prepares the 2016 version of the "stop buying" article. << I knew it.
BingoBoingo: * adlai is proud to report that his meatspace btcfiat signal remains peerlessly indistinguishable from monkeys at a typewriter << Meatspace linux signal is bullish
BingoBoingo: Qntra called it https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV-Fee1UYAA96fL.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NMbYHs )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36278 @ 0.00047922 = 17.3851 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22402 @ 0.00049093 = 10.9978 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41218 @ 0.00048072 = 19.8143 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00049107 = 5.4018 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56979 @ 0.00049251 = 28.0627 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00047855 = 4.1634 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62500 @ 0.0004935 = 30.8438 BTC [+] {2}
adlai: from the "dear usg, please send more clowns." department: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3why40/im_done_with_bitcoin_fees_are_too_high/cxwcftq
assbot: knircky comments on I'm done with bitcoin. Fees are too high. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NonvZJ )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43750 @ 0.00049455 = 21.6366 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41000 @ 0.00049497 = 20.2938 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30834 @ 0.00049542 = 15.2758 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99075 @ 0.00049584 = 49.1253 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00048961 = 8.0541 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66897 @ 0.00047855 = 32.0136 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76314 @ 0.00047627 = 36.3461 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35009 @ 0.00047464 = 16.6167 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23809 @ 0.00049602 = 11.8097 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29191 @ 0.00049628 = 14.4869 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2759 @ 0.00049539 = 1.3668 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55769 @ 0.00049718 = 27.7272 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41241 @ 0.00049539 = 20.4304 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41800 @ 0.00048048 = 20.0841 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32081 @ 0.00048001 = 15.3992 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00048444 = 6.4188 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46924 @ 0.00048014 = 22.5301 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 134467 @ 0.00047402 = 63.74 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42752 @ 0.00047324 = 20.232 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00048443 = 10.5121 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Qntra called it https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV-Fee1UYAA96fL.png << bullshit story of all time. "oh i was hacked". the faux satoshi has everything in common with the fiat-based wanna-be bitcoin scammer.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NMbYHs )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.0004796 = 3.0455 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19988 @ 0.00047961 = 9.5864 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33500 @ 0.00048444 = 16.2287 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: in other news : how do you superimpose two images for the web, but exactly ?
mircea_popescu: (i did find the answer, a half hour of labour later, and exactly in the "basic science upon the software" sense djikstra was discussing. and i'm betting you don't know either. pos html omfg.) ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65600 @ 0.00048444 = 31.7793 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15903 @ 0.00048464 = 7.7072 BTC [+] {2}
deedbot-: [Trilema] Here's who doesn't belong in Bitcoin : you. - http://trilema.com/2015/heres-who-doesnt-belong-in-bitcoin-you/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37550 @ 0.00048354 = 18.1569 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73200 @ 0.00048077 = 35.1924 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: !up stoon
punkman: saw a flash of naked girl on last article but it disappeared
mircea_popescu: hehe.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00048265 = 9.1945 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123352 @ 0.00048464 = 59.7813 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00048589 = 1.0933 BTC [+]
trinque: mircea_popescu │ in other news : how do you superimpose two images for the web, but exactly ? << you put them both in a position: relative div, give the two images position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0;
trinque: ... the shit that fills my head
mircea_popescu: doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: you can't have absolute coords. it's the web.
trinque: that one makes it "absolute" "relative" to the parent div
mircea_popescu: you still get padding.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341197 << at least it seems that colbert isn't quite so funny when libertards aren't watching him with the (almost assuredly) mistaken statistic in mind that "half of viewers don't even know he's kidding!" ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 16:06:12; mircea_popescu: awww, colbert's not funny ?! who knew!
punkman: there's probably two dozen ways to do that
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/parody-is-not-there-for-you-cancerous-fags-to-try-and-hide-your-cancer-behind-it/
assbot: "Parody" is not there for you cancerous fags to try and hide your cancer behind it. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1T9xolV )
trinque: then comes the long recitation of the reset.css ritual to purify the browser.
mircea_popescu: that said, he's squeezed more blood from that rock than anyone i know oif.
mircea_popescu: trinque if you're curious, see how last trilema does it
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: and colbert kicked the parody to the curb, leaving... not much.
pete_dushenski: and colbert's up there with ali g and daniel tosh in the "lulzy interview that audience and interviewer understand but interviewee maybe not so much" game.
trinque: now only the fellation of the state and hollywood remain.
pete_dushenski: !s tosh.0
assbot: 1 results for 'tosh.0' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=tosh.0
trinque: mircea_popescu: a yep, that works.
pete_dushenski: well that's too bad, tosh.0 is pretty hilarious.
trinque: giving up on the tags other than div alleviates a lot of the pain
punkman: colbert had some pretty good bits over the years
punkman: can't say I'll ever watch his new "serious" crap though
pete_dushenski: punkman: looks like you're not alone. no one wants the ~actual~ stephen colbert, they want to see an overwrought fauxpublican.
mircea_popescu would almost watch a best-of if curated by someone in the wot
mircea_popescu: never really watched the guy outside of a few half minute snippets here and there.
punkman: daniel tosh is pretty bad but I've only caught the odd youtube featuring him
punkman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_impact_of_The_Colbert_Report
assbot: Cultural impact of The Colbert Report - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oo1v18 )
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tosh.0&lclk=long&filters=long << for anyone looking to check out full episodes of tosh.0
assbot: tosh.0 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oo1KJr )
pete_dushenski: can't say i've watched daniel tosh's stand-up routine, but i'd have high expectations for it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.00048523 = 11.6213 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-12-2015#1341978 << that was sussman ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2015 13:42:05; mircea_popescu: (i did find the answer, a half hour of labour later, and exactly in the "basic science upon the software" sense djikstra was discussing. and i'm betting you don't know either. pos html omfg.)
mircea_popescu: ah right.
mircea_popescu: amusingly enouj
mircea_popescu: enough*, the answer is recursion.
mircea_popescu: so wait. the wikipedia page on the "cultural impact" of some random network anchor dude consists of 'things named after him' such as obscure sports teams and various pets ; and a large chapter on "wikipedia references" ?
mircea_popescu: what are these people on, their own jenkem ?
asciilifeform: tlp's disease ?
asciilifeform: 'it is on the screen, ergo it matters even if it is nonsense'
asciilifeform: ;;nethash
gribble: 693923003.137
asciilifeform: where'd it go..?
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: !s nethash
assbot: 510 results for 'nethash' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=nethash
mircea_popescu: 12:24:01gribble: 527455049.152 << less than month ago.
pete_dushenski: 50 petahash here, 50 there... what's a few hundred acres of mining farms between friends ?
pete_dushenski: those cf-18s might not be able to hit the side of a barn in syria, but why not a stationary and defenseless mining farm in iceland ?
shinohai: Happy Hannukah pete_dushenski o/
pete_dushenski: aha cheers !!
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: there is no reason (aside from laziness and idiocy) for there to be any geographic concentrations of miners whatsoever
asciilifeform: (largest power could easily occupy, e.g., 10,000 cheapo warehouse lofts in 300 cities)
pete_dushenski: but really, a terahash is running ~1 btc atm (or was last month), which'd mean that 50k btc of ~just equipment~ is popping on and offline PER DAY. though the measurement problems inherent in ;;nethash may account for the majority of that...
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: why do you imagine that the consumer prices have anything to do with the actual cost to a geopolitical player ?
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: also aside from cheap leccy and fast net connection...
asciilifeform: (what does it cost usg to order intel to bake 100,000 14nm asics ?)
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: why did hitler need money ?
asciilifeform: to buy swedish steel ?
pete_dushenski: ok, and how many iphones does usg have to buy off china to pay the israelis for 100k asic chips ?
asciilifeform: why import ?
pete_dushenski: (israelis will do anything for iph0ne)
asciilifeform: serious cpu is one of the very few remaining american monopolies.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i guess if oregon doesn't mind "belching smokestacks"
pete_dushenski: i thought there was no 'serious cpu' ;/
asciilifeform: 'serious' being a relative thing
pete_dushenski: ok you tell me what 100k 'serious cpus' cost
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: obligatory thread: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2015#1299184 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-10-2015 01:03:09; mircea_popescu: in the sense of, "put on provision slip, sign, costs nothing"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58450 @ 0.00048464 = 28.3272 BTC [-] {3}
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: re-read. basically, no cost because nfi.
pete_dushenski: from outside, there's no cost. from inside, 'dunno yet, but we'll try to reallocate some of our other budgetary items to accommodate asic production'
pete_dushenski: basically, more zeros from one excel cell to another and voila ! chips.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1539 << obligatory illustration. where do you suppose these originally came from ?
assbot: Loper OS » Yes, you can still get these. ... ( http://bit.ly/1XtNsB3 )
asciilifeform: somebody moved a magical pencil, and - bam - there were fewer rolls of tp to be had. but chips appeared, aha.
asciilifeform: sorta like a hard drunk, or better yet, a costly dope addict - where does he get the coke money ?
asciilifeform: answer: ~somewhere~
pete_dushenski: aha. anywhere.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it isn't even a matter of 'we'll try to reallocate some of our other budgetary items'
asciilifeform: they simply print the bezzlars, and hire.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-12-2015#1341623 << well that was edifying. /me needs more practice with this subject matter. total n00b. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2015 02:01:19; asciilifeform: http://foto-history.livejournal.com/8378510.html << historical interest, re: punishments.
asciilifeform: the second half of this particular engine's cycle is, of course, repossessing the bezzlars so they do not circulate and spread chaos
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: a luxury mr. z80-wisher-into-existence perhaps didn't have.
asciilifeform: in su this was done with the state monopoly on liquor
asciilifeform: in us - with rent bezzle
pete_dushenski thought liquor was cheap in former su.
pete_dushenski: or that moonshine in bathtub would suffice to extract one from said monopolu
pete_dushenski: monopoly*
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: folks certainly tried moonshining.
asciilifeform: it was punished harshly.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: re: link, i have always found 'ling chi' interesting. by all indications, the condemned remained alive almost until the very end. this must have taken considerable skill on part of the executioner.
pete_dushenski: no tv or even books to distract. why not be an artist at your craft ?
asciilifeform: iirc the last known public ling chi was in 1907
asciilifeform: but it was not very impressive, the condemned was doped with opium
pete_dushenski: not impressive ? you shoulda been there !!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61000 @ 0.00048613 = 29.6539 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341537 << l0l. #3 hit on google/yandex is... #b-a logs ! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 23:56:54; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341478 << see also pelevin's riotously funny doctor gulago
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56800 @ 0.00048233 = 27.3963 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00048277 = 1.5207 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19159 @ 0.00048771 = 9.344 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13093 @ 0.00049065 = 6.4241 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37550 @ 0.00048277 = 18.128 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117650 @ 0.00048922 = 57.5567 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62072 @ 0.00049721 = 30.8628 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: interestinglyt enough, zjdx.lljs.gov.cn/bfdx/ is a spam link.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't you expect gov.cn to be better policed ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and to round up alf's punishments thread, http://40.media.tumblr.com/33114042f5cc512a4a9bed80e09dcab5/tumblr_n7yzslf6rX1tpwtg5o1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1SU8h2g )
mircea_popescu: or perhaps http://41.media.tumblr.com/1c26d63ffb682d64aa81d045315041b5/tumblr_n7z0fo9vkP1tpwtg5o1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1SU8jXX )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51750 @ 0.00049392 = 25.5604 BTC [-] {8}
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: spiffy
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-12-2015#1342101 << the giftz of winblowz ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2015 18:23:12; mircea_popescu: wouldn't you expect gov.cn to be better policed ?
asciilifeform: here in gringolandia spam is routinely sent from city, state, and esp. shithole .edu machines
asciilifeform: and the only reason why spam from .gov/.mil is a rarity is the fascist filtering on the head end
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49995 @ 0.00048186 = 24.0906 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform bbl.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42550 @ 0.00048418 = 20.6019 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00048898 = 16.0874 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: buenos carmen diaz
BingoBoingo: lol http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/bitbob-and-silent-jay.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QlktLL )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00048781 = 2.7073 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> wouldn't you expect gov.cn to be better policed ? << It's not. I've only seen spam links from there.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77796 @ 0.00048932 = 38.0671 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 427.29, vol: 35881.57248004 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 423.918, vol: 19054.51633 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 427.05, vol: 120440.03392953 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 400.01, vol: 5.40583572 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 436.153644, vol: 187210.68040000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 424.16637, vol: 244.3823046 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 428.6869008, vol: 190.39897351 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: average: 431.602534787
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28976 @ 0.00049691 = 14.3985 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28578 @ 0.00049196 = 14.0592 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Also gov.ua is hosting spam domains nao
mircea_popescu: well that i believe is the normal function of the ua government.
BingoBoingo: aha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24524 @ 0.00048188 = 11.8176 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86776 @ 0.00048026 = 41.675 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/109d1b9bb42bbcb593d3b31f098b7731/tumblr_mt0vel9QJd1szhixio1_400.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1SUiufd )
mircea_popescu: "how did you do ?" "i'm confident in my performance".
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58650 @ 0.00047827 = 28.0505 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24777 @ 0.00048443 = 12.0027 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74245 @ 0.00048645 = 36.1165 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00049832 = 14.9994 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69000 @ 0.00049184 = 33.937 BTC [-] {2}
deedbot-: [Qntra] Generally Upward Price Volatility At fiat/Bitcoin Interfaces Continues - http://qntra.net/2015/12/generally-upward-price-volatility-at-fiatbitcoin-interfaces-continues/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28720 @ 0.00049641 = 14.2569 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61774 @ 0.00049871 = 30.8073 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11274 @ 0.00049278 = 5.5556 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34350 @ 0.00050011 = 17.1788 BTC [+] {4}
funkenstein_: adlai, some cubes to go with your cubes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsssqCMfUMY
assbot: Rubik's Cube World Record 4.90 sec Lucas Etter Slow Motion - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1NNhY2B )
funkenstein_: what is it about evidence of vomit-inducing mental illness in primates that is "edifying" or "spiffy"?
ben_vulpes: http://www.themorningnews.org/article/blues-on-wheels << "a writer becomes a carrier for the USPS out of a complete lack of options. what she discovers is that government jobs are actually miserable." ftfy ☟︎
assbot: Blues on Wheels - The Morning News ... ( http://bit.ly/1UiFYMb )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00050064 = 8.2606 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ say wut ?
mircea_popescu: <danielpbarron> heh i'm mcguyvering out in the field as i oversee my employee building spicy moss ordinaries << in eulora news, the cotton pickin' is real!
funkenstein_: howdy :) i was just referencing some earlier channel comments on image links
danielpbarron: hehe
mircea_popescu: yeah butr i have no idea which
mircea_popescu: in other news, the other heartbeat http://49.media.tumblr.com/b35f312ce1c4f79e55c98dc5e5be482c/tumblr_n1vdwuvl4P1t8bkhco1_500.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QlDu0H )
funkenstein_: "edifying" was pete on look heads come off, "spiffy" was ascii on look we can cause pain
BingoBoingo: lol "no one goes “postal” anymore (they go, as my trainer said, “‘high school,’ like Columbine” instead)"\
BingoBoingo: https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/red_car.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QlF4PY )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00049278 = 12.1224 BTC [-]