phf: ^- above values don't seem to be correct. i'm getting f76d906ae56e1c2582e66ef3427e0fcd7a5319d69fcfcbec0a7bcf1e02db5de0 wot_users.sql.gz and e431011e2a09122a8695a9a5d326d760f5da1e0fe40da112670d2bf694440488 wot_ratings.sql.gz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34385 @ 0.00074358 = 25.568 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25350 @ 0.00074196 = 18.8087 BTC [-] {3}
shinohai: 488c71753df901d9e6b9ac8278cb6206f5ef05eebb9a8e760a8041b26d56bc2a wot_users.sql.gz
mod6: <+phf> shinohai: you probably have rm_gitignore.patch applied, which removes .gitignore files from src/obj/nogui and nukes the folders along the way? << i said to disregard this patch. reason is, it wipes out output dirs required by the bitcoin makefile.
☟︎ mod6: oh, thought that said "should have"
shinohai: Nah it was me derping and forgetting to mkdir obj after I deleted the other :/
mod6: ah, yeah, ok good deal.
mod6: working on some cleanup. toposort seems to be doing what it should be, press is testing well so far (manual tests), currently writing the help info etc.
mod6: i perhaps wanna touch on some colorization of the graphviz graph nodes depending on the signatory, we'll see.
mod6: I also am considering adding a "pull" or "sync" method. something to check your local vpatches against whats available at the foundation.
mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, it's coming along!
mod6: oh, and I was gonna add a bunch of cucumber tests to exercise the V code to ensure correctness. haven't even started that part yet.
mod6: but shouldn't be too bad.
shinohai will test cukes as necessary ....
mod6: i mean cucumber with perl is better than with java or ruby. might be nice with python, but again, that's not exactly my thing yet.
mod6: so maybe someday, we'll have the gherkin with a python backend.
mod6: walking my way through alf's toposort taught me a few things though.
mod6: including that there is no actual way to have an else case for a for loop in perl. lol.
mod6: so i had to kinda make my own magic there. was simple with an added flag + check.
shinohai: I'm willing to bet you need 13 libraries just to echo "hello world" in java.
mod6: well, arguably there are a variety of classes involved there. but you can make that happen with just the standard development kit, no special imports of packages are required.
mod6: but yeah, java sucks.
trinque: unblinking, eyebrow-less evil
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> gasenwagen! << Tis the People's Wagen nao
mod6: The National Razor had a better ring to it.
mircea_popescu is tempted to start whorehouse, call it people's house./
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mircea_popescu: i haven't read bitcointalk in like years, but hey, i tend to read stuff people link here. and in that thread, iCEBREAKER dude is fucking breaking 'em.
mircea_popescu: "Sure, go ahead and "challenge gatekeepers" with your TOR blacklists and awesome ~0% of network mining power.
mircea_popescu: To the proposal of "XT?" the community overwhelmingly responded "NACK" (cite: xtnodes.com). So regardless of your fact-free preference-tailored extreme minority opinion, the debate is over, and was won on inherency take-outs + presumption (not to mention solvency and the a priori 'FUCK HEARN AND THE CORE DEV HE RODE IN ON' deontological imperative).
mircea_popescu: Oh right, the 1MB cap is exactly like slavery days. Got it. That's not offensive at all. And neither are your first world armchair claims of resistance against censorship. You and your exorbitantly privileged critique of theymos' moderation wouldn't last a day in China, where real censorship exists.
mircea_popescu: Could you possibly be anymore self-righteous and self-regarding, while simultaneously self-pitying?
mircea_popescu: For very good reasons, XT got #REKT, and all the pretentious undergraduate Marxist pomo jargon in the universe won't help it be anything but a colossal failure."
shinohai: I've never seen him, but I found it pretty nifty he mentioned #b-a
mircea_popescu: if anyone still got an account somehow, see if he maybe wants to write for qntra ? i could read more of that
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> is the guy even here ? << My vague recollection is back in the day he wasn't an MPOE-PR fan. Usagi critic sure but though MPOE was just a differnet evil. Then again I am drunk early and memory flawed.
BingoBoingo: I think him or someone with a similar name tried to sell a big bar-o-silver for LTC
mircea_popescu: "bar of silver" and big somehow don't go together. what's silver, like a pizza an ounce ?
BingoBoingo: I've seen the nick brg444 before though. Fuck you brg444 get in assWoT already. Also don't think I didn't see you shilling for 21's Po-Po plug.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Prolly 10 oz or so. Less than a steak but more than the average dick.
BingoBoingo: Are you sure, with China ascendant and all...
mircea_popescu: lol. btw, anyone remember the rubber duckling incident ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is that in a good way ? like, licking it on a cone ?
shinohai: I wish mpoe-pr was still there, btctalk was worth reading then.
shinohai: She can certainly chew 'em up and spit 'em back out.
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> I wish mpoe-pr was still there, btctalk was worth reading then. << I think most people here value her health too much. When she left the Fillipenis wasn't so bad. Now it is pretty much all aids
cazalla: do americans actually pay such prices or is it simply a case where end user pays $8.80 (as we do here) and the goverment/tax payer is fucked for the rest of it?
mircea_popescu: granted it's a very difficult task because the issue is medicine (which is wordy by default) and the proposed jump somewhat distant.
cazalla: so what benefit is there in raising the price if no end user can actually buy it?
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Well consider before the price spike in question med was going for $13.50 per pill in the US and about $0.035 elsewhere
mircea_popescu: understand the evil of a 3 party system. the user has no say. the doctor decides if it's needed or not, doesn't care about the cost.
mircea_popescu: as a result, they'll be billed for a few millions, and react to it, gouging insurance prices by a few billion in a half decade.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> cazalla insurance has no option but to pay. << WIth the added danger that until Obola care came to all sorts of present evil could be vetoed by actual businesses
mircea_popescu: the societal cost of that cocky 20yo handpuppet is comparable to what obama costs.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> often enough, 'insurer' (misnomer, these are not insurance co. in the traditional sense) will find a way to avoid paying << This many times "insurer" is or was payment handler for actual business's healthcare claims
mircea_popescu: and this is the main problem here : for ~20 years, the president was a sort of priviledged class, allowed to burn pieces off the country.
mircea_popescu: but apparently the situation is degrading and every entry level project manager can do this now.
mircea_popescu: or, to quote an anonymous derp, "are we comfortable with regulation introduced by a guy named bob ?"
BingoBoingo: Recent corporate medicine where available has been move employees to medicaid so state feels the pain instead.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah. Only for the retired. Incompletely employed eligible by default nao.
mircea_popescu: the last "normal american" that had any value left in him was ambushed on a highway cca 2003.
BingoBoingo: No income retiree with assets must first bleed much before medicaid.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure. I've done the chapter 7 thing myself about 5 years ago.
mircea_popescu: let's play the "guess the size of today's apache log for trilema".
BingoBoingo: The obamacare new medicaid rules keep wealth tests for the retired and prevent incomes above X from medicaid, but low earners of nearly any net wealth get new medicaid
mircea_popescu: if you've not filed tax returns for past coupla years, you're still eligible
mircea_popescu: they get you for insurance fraud on top of whatever if you file later and it turns out you had moneys.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: medicaid is for everyone. It just isn't for you... yet
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Prolly, but Michelle Obola will likely be president if there still is one
mircea_popescu: even with the very steam-punk techno-nazis cyanide was not for everyone.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what's wrong with strychnine << Occasionally results in angry hulk rather than cadaver
BingoBoingo: Not really, Hulk movies are the super hero movies that don't make money
mircea_popescu: well, people of the nordic system sorta-expect nordic system.
mircea_popescu: no other explanation for all the third gender survival observed in the fields.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i would expect that probably changed. << Only really changed in healthcare and only in a way that ascii must eat shoes for a year to be lumpen
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so how do the fatties survive ? << Two years of leaching off family and then "blackface"
mircea_popescu: dude... a girl that weighs what 5 weigh costs what 10 cost.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> dude... a girl that weighs what 5 weigh costs what 10 cost. << Ah, if girl can pregnancy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26404 @ 0.00074358 = 19.6335 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> to the point that living on the dole virtually guarantees candidacy for that freakshow forum BingoBoingo reads << This 600-800 calories to the dollar is not an unrealistic target in USia
mircea_popescu: srsly, a complete meal out of $3 ? no wonder inflation figures are down.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> it staves off caloric starvation, but just about everyone who makes a habit of these 'meals' suffers from one or more kinds of malnutrition. << Yhis
punkman: how much pork does $3 buy?
BingoBoingo: In a McDonalds burger most calories come from the bun and its added sugar
BingoBoingo: <punkman> how much pork does $3 buy? << Little
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i very much doubt there's any meat in mcdonalds&co. << WHen I was there the actual "beef patty" seemed to be all beef though small. Just what part of beef...
mircea_popescu: The Demise of the High Fructose Corn Syrup Futures Contract: A Case Study
BingoBoingo: Now "Taco Bell" has a new flagship item selling for ~1 dollar/400 calories mostly textured soy protein, corn flour, and other corn
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> how the fuck do you price this shit now ? << same way sub saharan africans can buy anti-malarials that before gouging cost $13.50 a pop in USia
punkman: 4 calories per gram of corn syrup?
BingoBoingo: ;;google daredevil burrito nutrition facts
punkman: hmm indeed, seemed low in my head
mircea_popescu: im sure there's differences (iirc hfcs is about half fructose half weird), but they are not that significant
cazalla: but epic meal time is so cool!
phf: just went to groceries, spent about $200 for ~maybe~ two weeks worth of food (chicken for just a couple of days and fruits for 3 days since it'll go bad), cashier kept asking questions "wow that's a lot of food! how many people? is this for a month? etc."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but even in bulk that's 60 calories to the dollar.
phf: mircea_popescu: that was my impression too
BingoBoingo: HFCS wouldn't even be a big issue if it wasn't for the fact that fructuse doesn't respond to insulin
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform but even in bulk that's 60 calories to the dollar. << Math is either off or FCS is now the expensive component of trash food
cazalla: because sounds like a good opportunity to invite her over for a proper meal
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I spent a dollar for lunch yesterday at taco bell, I may be such an imbicel
phf: it's a coop with whole foods prices, they have a truly weird selection of cashiers, working there for a discount. i'd say trader joes has prettiest cashiers here, but that's a far away truck just to talk to some hipster girls. might as well go to a bar
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, you wanted irl chips with tolerances ? +-10%!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> Power Supply 10 x 1600 W Form Factor 11 U rack << reasonably even out power savings from pogo
mike_c: mining is a good way to learn though
mike_c: get your hands dirty a bit
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Also with saner p2pool could provide decent safety net
gribble: The average time to generate a block at 110000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 59335351233.9, is 3 weeks, 5 days, 19 hours, 33 minutes, and 13 seconds
mircea_popescu: the case for owning one : you can in general expect your own tx to confirm in a month, n omatter what.
mike_c: BingoBoingo: i don't know about safety net, we couldn't even protect altcoin
☟︎ BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: only if you regularly add units to keep up with diff << Then get four. You'll get at least 1 conf a month for a year
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> thing is, 'strategic' mining in the sense of 'protect' pretty much guaranteed to fail - because 'customs inspector's theorem' applies << Host in Sinaloa datacenter
BingoBoingo: <mike_c> BingoBoingo: i don't know about safety net, we couldn't even protect altcoin << Altcoin had to die for our sins of believing in a monetized testnet for a few months
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35050 @ 0.00074649 = 26.1645 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: wasn;t this the argument against prostitution since forever ?
mircea_popescu: somehow the same derps don't figure paying detracts from the quality of medical practice.
mircea_popescu: "i wouldn't dare take a free abortion, but who knwos what evil paid fuck-professionals may do!!"
punkman: "looks like the ad network I was using isn't going to pay me for the last 2 months of ads I placed on my site. Which kind of sucks."
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 02:03:33; *: mircea_popescu has asked usian cashiers out.
punkman: "My gf don't know this but everytime we fuck I put $1 in a jar & thats how much imma spend on her for her bday. So far she gettin a mcchicken"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12315 @ 0.00074175 = 9.1347 BTC [-]
phf: eerily reminiscent of prison "spread"
phf: ;;google prison spread
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 01:06:52; asciilifeform: unrelatedly, ada is melting my brain.
punkman: "anyone old enough to remember the PopUp wars knows this ad crap won't stop until it breaks the web, and gets blocked by browsers." << except you can still get popups, because fuck browsers
BingoBoingo: "Dunn did highlight positive news, including a growing and diverse student enrollment."
brg444: !register 4A0363951AFA090B6C221787E2F23DB84A63EC22
assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: 4A0363951AFA090B6C221787E2F23DB84A63EC22. This may take a few moments.
assbot: No valid OpenPGP data found on pgp.mit.edu.
BingoBoingo: "Incontinence of bowel and bladder in obese patients is a common cause of perineal dermatitis which can increase tissue friability and place patients at higher risk for skin breakdown."
cazalla: BingoBoingo, quit fat shaming me into losing the dad-bod
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Mebbe if you had more dangerous wildlife than abbos and spiders you'd change your mind on your own
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Also it isn't really dad-bod if you are actually a dad
phf: punkman: clearly russia, and from what i hear it's still a common practice. taught me to always carefully observe the weighing. i also have a 100g weight that i sometimes bring with me, in istanbul at spice bazaar for example i ran into much disagreement about standards and measures. a less conspicuous trick is to weigh a litre of milk, or somesuch
brg444: yea. looking into that now but tbf this is sorta new to me. using this stupid gui and it doesn't seem to want to connect to pgp.mit.edu for some obscure reason.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, sorta sad in a way but there aren't many abos left, all the drunks and petrol sniffers are at best half-caste
brg444: attempting to submit from there gives me "error handling request. exception raised"
BingoBoingo: cazalla: WHat do you think happened to the Aztec, their Navajo slaves, and the liberal Cherokee?
BingoBoingo: brg444: WHat ciphers did you use to generate the public key?
punkman: would make sense for assbot to grab dpasted keys like deedbot did
BingoBoingo: brg444: generated with what verison of GPG on what OS?
mircea_popescu: <punkman> would make sense for assbot to grab dpasted keys like deedbot did << word. the shitserver dependency is turning out to be a pain. for kakobrekla konsideration.
punkman: has anyone managed to register on the first try?
mircea_popescu: punkman yes. people generally do (see recently psomething fellow)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform making a key server for a basically defunct implementation of pgp not really much of a priority
punkman: asciilifeform: made some conflicting patches earlier and got the deconflict thing working
BingoBoingo: <brg444> GPG 1.2 on OSX 10.7.5 << The correct answer to this question was "Fuck you for asking" but since you raised the issue something in the 1.4 series may work better. GPG 2 is right out of the game.
brg444: !register 0x4a0363951afa090b6c221787e2f23db84a63ec22
assbot: That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.
brg444: !register 4a0363951afa090b6c221787e2f23db84a63ec22
assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: 4A0363951AFA090B6C221787E2F23DB84A63EC22. This may take a few moments.
assbot: Key 4A63EC22 / "Alexandre Bergeron <bergealex4@gmail.com>" successfully imported.
assbot: Registration successful.
BingoBoingo: !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.brg444.1:b16f55b4ab1b8146f179ef6828c942cb7a6134f411dddef478a4d29ce5cb2b2d
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for brg444 with note: new, not a lost cause yet
BingoBoingo: brg444: You can !up yourself nao in assbot pm
brg444: great, that was long time due. I do think I was closing in on the mandatory 6 months reading off the logs
BingoBoingo: Well, that's rare then. Most people now seem to register and hopefully later fuck off to 6 months of lawgs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the protocol has to be restated and /me does not feel equal to the task
mircea_popescu: if so inclined, i could just set a box too old to be bitcoin node to generate and register gpg sigs
brg444: BingoBoingo: about 21inc. can't say I am not guilty of charge :/
brg444: mircea_popescu: funny you mention iCEBREAKER, was just having a chat with him the other day as he was inquiring about b-a thinking I was already in seeing as regularly quote content from trilema/logs. will let him know about your "interest".
punkman: you'll be sleeping ad libitum before that happens
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2015 01:41:14; asciilifeform: 'Bien Darkmans then, Bouse Mort and Ken The bien Coves bings awast, On Chates to trine by Rome-Coves dine, For his long lib at last.'
lobbes: BingoBoingo: daww you should have let him !up himself
BingoBoingo: lobbes: Not everyone handles it the first time
brg444: just did, do I get voiced down automatically after a certain time?
brg444: "The government implemented a system in which you are given only one day of the week to be able to buy and this is decided according to your ID number."
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mike_c: yeah.. that's a good one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45800 @ 0.00074259 = 34.0106 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29085 @ 0.00075161 = 21.8606 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14515 @ 0.00075577 = 10.97 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44671 @ 0.00075463 = 33.7101 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8579 @ 0.00075168 = 6.4487 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14061 @ 0.00074259 = 10.4416 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: one example of something which Must Die is 'subkeys' << absolutely. i have no fucking idea what chickenbrain thought that's a thing. "o hey, you know what this chevy is made out of ? chevys! because they didn;'t get me that lego set when i was nine and now im fucked in the head."
☟︎ mircea_popescu: shoot anyone who ever put a fucking pic in their god damned comment field.
mircea_popescu: i mean, a blob i can see, for whatever crazy purposes. but an actual fucking picture ? with like a dog and a dumbass hat too ? shoot the fucker.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the other major atrocity is the fingerprint (yes). << im noit so sure. hash functions are fixed length output.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> in other nyooz, 73 connexions on zoolag, 41 - on bucephalus. << i see 64. not really a big deal there.
mircea_popescu: venezuela is one step ahead of argentina on the path of being the future of the united states.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00075305 = 21.5372 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: but anyway, sure, if anyone's looking to buy she-meat, in this side of the world, fine place to do it.
cazalla: i imagine that is like buying a car mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: (mostly quoted for the part where the guy says you can tell the animal's disposition by its coat color.)
cazalla: white ones are higher maintenance too
mircea_popescu: if you're that squeezed for margin you don't belong there anyway.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40450 @ 0.00074187 = 30.0086 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: incidentally mod6 , i'm seeing just about 1.2g memory footprint. how about yours ?
cazalla: mircea_popescu, can't be many here who would be in the position to buy em anyway
mircea_popescu: kinda need an arizona or i guess australia ranch for that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00075305 = 2.2968 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ette Fiddler by betting on web 2.0 so why would any sane team with a good strategist not jump right into that toxic sludge pool!
mircea_popescu: i hope whoever's in charge of this got paid for being this fucking stupid, it just wouldn't do any other way.
mircea_popescu: buncha fucken farm hands and colored pest control professionals mistaking themselves for white men in suits, for a pinata of ridiculous the likes of which.
mircea_popescu: im starting to inkle towards understanding what prussian school officers must have felt and thought meeting the russians "on the field" cca 1916, in the sense that if they chased fast enough they could sorta get within a hundred leagues of the revolutionary committee organised "military units" running away from the front.
punkman: hmm google says "Velma chan"
mircea_popescu: lol bitpay's "free forever" nonsense lasted almost about a whole year.
mircea_popescu: and they STILL haven't got the fucking lesson of Natalie, or a first inkling about how to communicate.
mircea_popescu: "Accredited Online University, Counter Terrorism Training"
punkman: ah on the last bit.ly link, yeah I get that too
punkman: does it even archive direct image links?
punkman: I get the usual page on archive.is root, weird
punkman: 139.162.197.127 if I ping it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53000 @ 0.00074169 = 39.3096 BTC [-] {3}
cazalla: apparently these are popping up in australia, remote area no less (Eurora, VIC - which is like 3 hours from Melbourne) yet i've never even seen on the road
http://i.imgur.com/F89Wi8C.jpg cazalla: never seen one as in never seen a tesla irl
mircea_popescu: you kinda have to have the powerstations before you can really sell the cars i think
cazalla: apparently they're being installed along the hume highway which is a highway around 1000km in length which connects sydney<->melbourne as well as a bunch of rural towns together, but from what i've read, you'd have to stop every 200-250 km to recharge this car for 45m, meaning the trip takes an extra 3 hours.. keeping in mind my piece of shit car does 750km of that trip on one tank
davout: bonjour messieurs dames
davout: australia sounds like one of the worst fits for electric cars
mircea_popescu: well... they could put cells on the roof... prolly help a lot.
☟︎ davout: one of the first things I was told when arriving in melbourne was
davout: "don't like the weather? wait half an hour"
cazalla: davout, yeah melbourne is a bit like that.. 4 seasons in one day is the saying
cazalla: voted world's most livable city but really, the food is shit, the people are shit, the architexture is shit, the weather is shit, the soil is shit, the housing is shit stacked upon shit, the traffic is even shittier, it's shit
cazalla: obviously, nfi who votes for such rigged polls in the first place
davout: cazalla: you guys do have good weed
cazalla: well i wouldn't know anything of the sort but last i heard, it was all asians growing hydro
davout: i agree on the food though
davout: i stayed with an audtralian roommate, he was amazed that i actually cooked
davout: as in anything different than "open package, shove in mouth"
davout: deedbot- only does trilema.
punkman: davout, it does all the feeds now
davout: punkman: hm, dropped mine apparently, last X.EUR statement didn't make it <<< trinque
cazalla: seen better pics before, just can't remember where
cazalla: and fucking google thinks i'm searching for mardi gras
davout: i'd be tempted to ask "who paints their snatch in the first place"
mircea_popescu: well... they shave it, they butter it... might as well.
mircea_popescu: anyway, buy her a chunk see what happens. stop keeping the poor girl in the basement of medieval scarcity culture!!1
cazalla: anyone seen black mass yet?
cazalla: johnny depp as whitey bulger
cazalla: released last week, so i was tempted to actually go to the cinema, but of course.. not released in australia until next month
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27962 @ 0.00074283 = 20.771 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: australia is where they try out the nutty coercion schemes, not the entertainment.
cazalla: i hear the same things from asciilifeform
cazalla: seems to be something has changed down under over the past 25 years but i can never be sure if actually has always been this way and this 25 years bullshit is just the process of growing from a child to an adult
shinohai: Holy shit punkman, nice assets to wake up to >>> 03:52 +punkman
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davout: bitfinex's "updated calculation is more accurate thus removing the large variance in accuracy"
davout: one doesn't just make that up
davout: it does have entertainment value
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 262950 @ 0.00075313 = 198.0355 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 00:45:54; BingoBoingo: Java not only sucks, it is owned by evil
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 01:32:26; BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: medicaid is for everyone. It just isn't for you... yet
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 01:41:43; mircea_popescu: so how do the fatties survive ?
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 02:09:11; mike_c: BingoBoingo: i don't know about safety net, we couldn't even protect altcoin
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punkman: cranes fall, fire, now stampede.
punkman: though the stampede is kinda traditional
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shinohai: "The best thing since the moth I ate yesterday"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00074018 = 8.4381 BTC [+]
hdbuck: raspi + 3D printed case! they'll sell at least 100 of them, so that's around $1.2 million a piece to pay back the VCs. i am waiting for the « toasters » tho.
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80100 @ 0.00073622 = 58.9712 BTC [-] {4}
hdbuck: ;;later tell brg444 glad you make it here :)
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13543 @ 0.0007407 = 10.0313 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 06:24:52; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the other major atrocity is the fingerprint (yes). << im noit so sure. hash functions are fixed length output.
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 06:18:18; mircea_popescu: it's up there with the fucking PICTURE.
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 08:38:06; mircea_popescu: well... they could put cells on the roof... prolly help a lot.
jurov: tesla should make much more than 200km at once on highway.. but i can imagine airconditioning on full blast is needed, too
jurov: lol 200w stereo? with vacuum tubes?
shinohai solves energy issues by using a steam turbine powered by tears of redditards forced to read #bitcoin-assets logs ....
davout: shinohai: burn their hopes and dreams directly, you'll get a better yield
jurov: is the RFC confidentially public?
jurov: reminded me of the MP license :D
jurov: speaking of him, surely you have cleartext version... << davout
davout: the idea is mainly to document stuff that's pretty obvious in order for the coinbase et al. derps to be unable to later claim invenshuns
davout: and we had it in a drawer anyway, so might as well publish
shinohai: I loathe coinbase so 3 cheers to davout
jurov: so you don't actually implement it?
davout: jurov: of course the idea is to actually implement it
davout: but to do that you need another liquidity source on the other end of the tunnel
jurov: well then.. why explicitly rely on HTTP(S)?
jurov: it would work fine with gpg mpex-style
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davout: that also implements it, so publishing the RFC also communicates that serious liquidity sources are welcome to knock on our door
jurov: it says "POST method" which is HTTP-only thing
jurov: and yes, with GPG the oauth is unnecessary
davout: you're probably right it's not really necessary
davout: if you leave comments on the blog post i'll compile them all in the next version
davout: hdbuck: yeah, i saw this one on /r/buttcoin
davout: it's not very new, and obviously completely braindamaged
phf: hdbuck: there's a taler thread in the logs, with predictable conclusions
hdbuck: phf thx, predictable conclusions indeed
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trinque: davout: you sure that wasn't scoopbot before?
jurov: um.. looks like explo.yt fell out, too?
jurov: dunno if it was scoopbot
davout: trinque: no, i'm not sure, imma fish the logs to double check
trinque: I didn't get the list from scoopy
davout: trinque: you're right, deedbot- never had it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10601 @ 0.00073518 = 7.7936 BTC [-]
jurov: it should ignore old entries...
trinque: I'm not spending the amount of time necessary farting around with an rss module
trinque: it does that once, and now you know what it missed :p
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37999 @ 0.00073436 = 27.9049 BTC [-] {3}
davout: jurov: tyvm for the comments
mike_c: what, it doesn't check for l1 and allow? ;)
ascii_field: ^ 'lego' seems like an odd choice of luxury for an embezzler. it is a children's toy. little blocks that snap together. we had'em, cloned, nameless, in the su world
jurov: ascii_field: you have seen how much they ask for the original?
jurov: ^ just a gateway drug of 33 pcs
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49050 @ 0.00073829 = 36.2131 BTC [+]
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trinque: maybe easier to port emulators?
shinohai: not sure realy, for a playthng or hobby i guess
ascii_field: whole thing smacks of the proverbial 'netbsd on dead squirrel in shoebox'
ascii_field: pogo is something quite like an actual computer
shinohai: but i can't do anything with it much yet :/
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gernika: is the foundation client known to be slower syncing than the phoundation client?
punkman: gernika: it does throw away blocks arriving out of order
gernika: Friend is claiming he can do a full sync in 6-8 hours using the phoundation client (non-ssd), while it took my OpenBSD box 3 weeks using eatblock. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
☟︎ jurov: gernika how much ram did you have?
BingoBoingo: gernika: The Phundnation client does something now called "headers first" which doesn't really verify much of anything
gernika: jurov: This account is allocated 2gb - seems to be using about 1.4GB
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trinque: another lovely day in US-Russian relations
mike_c: kakobrekla: how do you feel about adding an Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * to w.b-a.link?
mike_c: Cross origin ajax request
mike_c: I was going to add an ajax search of the user page to the 'not found' btcalpha wot nick search page
mike_c: would rather not do it server-side to reduce dependencies
mike_c: thx to kako for rapid server change.
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jurov: liberland lives!!!
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punkman: I was hoping for a photo :(
BingoBoingo: Wanted to commit the report to the textual record as soon as possible
BingoBoingo: Because like CoinDesk is going to have a friend in Atlanta walk by the BitPay offices to take in the rumoured slaughte
BingoBoingo: BitPay is/was the non-retarded retail alternative to CoinBase
Pierre_Rochard: from the public info I read, they’ll continue with a skeleton crew, could make a turnaround if there’s a bubble soon :/
phf: ascii_field, mircea_popescu, et al: i've been experimenting with idea of trusted nodes in bitcoind. so far: address has levels of trust, ultimate, trusted and untrusted. adding an address with -connect gives it ultimate trust, with -addnode makes it trusted, otherwise (reported by other nodes, random connections, etc.) are untrusted. nodes have the same level of trust as their addresses. trusted nodes (i.e. both t. and ultimate) are allowed
☟︎☟︎ phf: to misbehave, idle however long and send data as large as they want. what's not implemented: prioritizing trusted nodes over others during node selection: you might still lose connection by natural means, in which case -addnode nodes will be dropped, and a standard node selection mechanism is used. the patch so far is here
http://paste.lisp.org/display/155710. i'm thinking that ultimate vs. trusted distinction might be unnecessary. i would
phf: appreciate any comments on the subject.
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jurov: phf if you recall alf had some kind of middleman problem.. and this won't help
assbot: Logged on 30-08-2015 15:45:26; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu (corrected) dulap still behind; i had a thought that the very possibility of this problem is an atrocious idiocy - why should an infrastructural node (so0opernoude!!!) rely on the whims of wild animals to learn latest blocks? we need the 'nobles'-never-disconnect table.
phf: one way it might help with ascii's problem specifically though is that your client will patiently wait for ascii's node, even though there might be periods of time where it would otherwise be completely unresponsive.
phf: -connect based nodes in large avoid this problems because there's a mainloop that keeps adding same -connect supplied addresses over and over again, so even if elsewhere it's decided to drop the node, it'll be added and reconnected again on the next iteration. never the less a connect node can still be banned for misbehaving, which is something that his patch prevents from happening
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 21:29:38; phf: ascii_field, mircea_popescu, et al: i've been experimenting with idea of trusted nodes in bitcoind. so far: address has levels of trust, ultimate, trusted and untrusted. adding an address with -connect gives it ultimate trust, with -addnode makes it trusted, otherwise (reported by other nodes, random connections, etc.) are untrusted. nodes have the same level of trust as their addresses. trusted nodes (i.e. bot
ascii_field: will say this again, 'trusting' ip p.q.r.s is IDIOCY
punkman: you could make bans on "trusted" nodes expire sooner
phf: punkman: that specific loop can be closed much easier by checking for -connect during misbehave report and bailing
ascii_field: phf: all this will do is that you will waste cpu cycles on peers who are getting packetdropped by usg
ascii_field: (all of the mitm against my nodes has taken the form of vaguely plausibly-deniable packet dropping and delay)
ascii_field: strategic, incidentally, in that it did not trigger 'misbehave' listing on my end
phf: misbehave is only triggered when counterparty sends malformed, but still recognisable packets, so that would be a much more noticeable attack
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 19:30:42; gernika: Friend is claiming he can do a full sync in 6-8 hours using the phoundation client (non-ssd), while it took my OpenBSD box 3 weeks using eatblock. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
phf: where's packet dropping and delay results in a no-consequences disconnect, similar to that "no activity in first 60 seconds"
ascii_field: as no useful activity can take place while this hangs
ascii_field: because the whole thing was written by the profoundly retarded
phf: well, the patch gives special status to ips that were explicitly provided. if you're being mitm'd, your only recourse is operator intervention, the goal of the patch was to ensure that your recourse does not automatically become "use random shmoe"
☟︎ ascii_field: and for 'trusted' peers, in the above sense, to be ones where all comms in both directions are authenticated.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu once alluded to a dirty ad-hoc implementation of this by chinese operators, where nodes had vpn links to one another
gernika: ascii_field Thought it was real - 32 GB ecc ram, opteron 4226.
ascii_field: as in, where did the blocks fed to 'eatblock' come from ?
gernika: both yours and mp's nodes.
ascii_field: i am asking ~specifically~ how the thing was put together
ascii_field: the correct way to use eatblock is with dumpblock coming from an already synced LOCAL node.
ascii_field: this does NOT take 3 weeks on my hardware.
gernika: Right. So I made it to 368xxx and got stuck on the large block syncing from one of your nodes over the network. I then (probably) had a bad shutdown and corrupted the db. I then used eatblock to sync from what I had on disk up to that point.
ascii_field: as in, didn't have the bdb locks fix patch applied ?
gernika: wedged - due to not having the patch yes
ascii_field: let me guess, of the 3 weeks, most of the time was spent wedged ?
gernika: The node was not on the network, it was just eating from disk. It did not appear wedged, just processing one block after another.
ascii_field: but was the entire blockchain already present on disk to be eaten?
ascii_field: what i am asking is, did it at any point spend time waiting for an edible block to appear on disk.
gernika: Yes it did. I did not dump all.dat files at once. I would dump one, eat through it (in about 24 hours), then dump the next.
ascii_field: the other important question is whether the node being synced was also accessing the net at the time
gernika: It was started like this bitcoind -myip=x.x.x.x -caneat -datadir=/home/gernika/.bitcoin-8-14/
phf: gernika: you know if the addr db empty? if you did a connect with that node at any point, it'll have a populated address database and start connecting immediately on startup
phf: i don't have intuition for complete eatblock time, but 3 weeks does sound like surprisingly long time, even with all the checks enabled
gernika: It might not have been empty. That said, I didn't see the noise in the logs I would expect to see if it were connected to another node.
phf: shinohai: what's the context?
phf: shinohai: what prompted the question?
shinohai: I was reading your conversation with gernika in logs, was only curious
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brg444: about bitpay, can't say they don't doesn't deserve what's happening to them :/ they're part of the reasons why we have a trove of redditard today who think everyone and their grandmother should be using BTC for retail purchases...
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