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a111: Logged on 2019-05-12 19:14 asciilifeform: i.e. asciilifeform ported to pogo (even had working, save for the flash disk,
netbsd port) , then the iron vanished from market long before achieved anyffin useful on it
phf: mircea_popescu: on mac you can use e.g. pkgsrc which is a portable portage from
netbsd project, which i have on all my machines. posix things of arbitrary complexity build from it
shinohai: yeah www is down for
netbsd upgrade
mod6: asciilifeform: oh, interesting, thought it was
netbsd phf: and a powermac g4, that i haven't booted in a while. i'm pretty sure it has
netbsd on it though
a111: Logged on 2017-08-06 03:43 asciilifeform: my suspicion is that the bdb locks patch somehow has no effect when bdb built on
netbsd phf: asciilifeform: i've been trying to build "mpv", a video player that notoriously relies on a lot of shit packages. i've actually tried homebrew over
netbsd's ports, because later fails to build mpv that actually works on mac. now so does homebrew. i'll try macports, but i doubt it'll deliver
BingoBoingo: Well, maybe have to pull RAID controller for
netbsd shinohai: it would surely run
netbsd and mp-wp w/out hiccup
mircea_popescu: with the downside that you're now stuck maintaining
netbsd.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-04 22:58 asciilifeform: possibly one could try building a
netbsd that doesn't try to touch the usb chip at all. then enjoy setting up sans keyboard.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-04 20:55 asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform took the chance made by the death of ssd in 'zoolag' to attempt
netbsd. result : no boot. ( with or without 'no acpi' ) option, hangs at usb init.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-04 23:12 asciilifeform: it dun need replacement per se, was dead disk. i took the downtime as chance to try
netbsd on same iron, when new disk came. iirc i explained this upstack.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-04 21:13 asciilifeform: i dun even pin this on the
netbsd people, they are the dangling corpse in the relationship with wintel
mircea_popescu: no bios and must run usb3 seems to disqualify the hardware, not
netbsd, though.
phf: or possible supporting all kinds of system specific corner cases (oh
netbsd returns NULL here instead of "FOO")
phf: i don't know anything about his
netbsd work. i know him exclusively via scheme/lisp world
mircea_popescu: phf can you with not so much effort point out to me what
netbsd anything he did ?
phf: it's the same with openbsd's ports,
netbsd pkgsrc, mac's homebrew, etc.
mircea_popescu: and in lulzy ancient stuff :
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2005/06/30/esr_interview.html interviewer (random nobody) contrasts sony using
netbsd for the psp and people finding out because they put an unlinked text file on their website (as per license obligation) which was then found whereas they advertised the shit out of running linux for the ps3 in the terms of "WE THE PEOPLE made this be".
BingoBoingo: Framedragger: If you bsd either
NEtBSD or OpenbsD but make own ports.
iceblox: I have no idea what version, operating system was
NetBSD 1.6 for sure
assbot: GitHub - sabotage-linux/
netbsd-curses: libcurses and dependencies taken from
netbsd and brought into a portable (at least to musl) shape ... (
http://bit.ly/1QAhUAm )
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 15:13:09; asciilifeform: in principle, i like the lightweight, pedigreed, and 'hackable on' bsd family, e.g.,
netbsd. but imho openbsd is something that probably needs to be helped die
ascii_butugychag: (as BingoBoingo prolly knows, dead squirrels in shoeboxes run
netbsd.)
ascii_butugychag: i have
netbsd running on, what, a dead squirrel in a cardboard box maybe, somewhere.
pete_dushenski: though 15 minutes of reading was all it took to appreciate the enormity of alf's glibcless
netbsd.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 06:25:36; pete_dushenski: besides, is not trb news the dominion of mod6 'state of bitcoin addresses' or qntra ? i can certainly qntra, but i guess i'm not equipped to appreciate the significance of glibc-less-
netbsd pete_dushenski: besides, is not trb news the dominion of mod6 'state of bitcoin addresses' or qntra ? i can certainly qntra, but i guess i'm not equipped to appreciate the significance of glibc-less-
netbsd ☟︎ assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 00:03:55; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> incidentally the de-glibc-ized trb WILL run on
netbsd now! << o hey!
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> incidentally the de-glibc-ized trb WILL run on
netbsd now! << o hey!
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 20-12-2015 22:01:59; asciilifeform: incidentally the de-glibc-ized trb WILL run on
netbsd now!
ascii_field: whole thing smacks of the proverbial '
netbsd on dead squirrel in shoebox'
shinohai: Comes pre-installed on my
NetBSD shell. May give it a whirl sometimes.
danielpbarron: i remember why this didn't work with the
netbsd one
danielpbarron: ascii was looking at
netbsd for a time; there was some bug where it couldn't see the nand, plus we discovered nasty things about
netbsd in general
mircea_popescu: anyway. so archlinux ? what happened to
netbsd or w/e ?!
ascii_field: but iirc the device support of openbsd is a subset of
netbsd's
danielpbarron: i got your
netbsd kernel to boot on the pogo; this is possible with openbsd as well?
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: M:N threading was a solaris-like, more-performant-than N:N threading model that nate committed to
netbsd, but due to its complexity had to be backed out because nobody could maintain it or reliably fix bugs in it.
midnightmagic: like the really unfortunate backout of the M:N threading model on
NetBSD. that was a sad time.
BingoBoingo: midnightmagic>
NetBSD builds and syncs to head almost trivially now. << But so much memory unsafety
midnightmagic:
NetBSD builds and syncs to head almost trivially now.
mircea_popescu: preferring instead to write plaintive missives of no value ten years later, like the
netbsd derp.
mircea_popescu: lol. imbecile "Foundation", a problem for every
netbsd clone since day one.
mircea_popescu: "The existing
NetBSD Foundation must be disbanded, and replaced with an organization that fulfills its original purpose: to merely handle administrative issues"
mircea_popescu: "As one of the 4 originators of
NetBSD, I am in a fairly unique position."
decimation: "In addition, Wasabi actually held up a
NetBSD release for more than a week, while failing to tell even the developer community why. (The main release engineer happened to be a Wasabi employee, so this was easy.) After I personally pushed the release out without them, it was finally revealed that this was because there was a secret arrangement, which only Wasabi employees and Wasabi board members knew about, to do a combined
NetBSD