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assbot: Massive DDoS attack against anti-spam provider impacts millions of internet users | Naked Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ib3UtB )
mircea_popescu: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013/03/28/massive-ddos-attack-against-anti-spam-provider-impacts-millions-of-internet-users/
asciilifeform: and... where did the tx spam go
asciilifeform: presently, long burst of tx spam
ascii_field: so tx spam is back.
nubbins`: sending spam/dust to a casascius coin's address is like spraying indelible graffiti on it
decimation: spam -> gmail; ddos -> cloudflare,aws ec2
asciilifeform: where is the spam
asciilifeform: where is the tx spam ?!
decimation: to me the solution to spam is "pay me to read your email in bitcoin"
mircea_popescu: i don't use gmail and don't have a spam problem. but hey.
decimation: and everyone uses gmail because spam
mircea_popescu: but the very basic "all plaintext email is spam, throw it out" rule would do that.
decimation: isn't that exactly what 'ddos protection' and 'spam protect' do?
decimation: it's not unlike the ddos/spam problem mentioned earlier - each entity sees the street and sewer vaults as a zone to stuff shit for 'free'
decimation: for instance, spam drives everyone to big isp mail hosts, gmail, etc - not only for spam protection but also for 'web of trust'
decimation: I thought the whole point of spam was to force you onto gmail
ben_vulpes: decimation: they are now refusing to mark spam for me.
decimation: https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/DiG9qANf5PA "Something you did recently has been an unmitigated disaster. Of the roughly 1000 spam threads I've gone through so far, right now 228 threads were incorrectly marked as spam."
asciilifeform: consistent with 'spam phones for africa'
thestringpuller: I found that during the "spam attack" my node was using almost 90% of it's upstream bandwidth relaying transactions.
danielpbarron: gets bogged down trying to recieve and relay so many spam transactions
danielpbarron: what with this nonStandard tx spam probably being the new norm
assbot: Logged on 16-07-2015 01:37:47; asciilifeform: gotta admit, usg switching to funding tx spam with stolen coin, rather than giving it at mega-discount to mircea_popescu et al, was a less-retarded-than-usual move
asciilifeform: gotta admit, usg switching to funding tx spam with stolen coin, rather than giving it at mega-discount to mircea_popescu et al, was a less-retarded-than-usual move ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the "tx spam" bs never did anything.
ascii_field: we cremate orphan tx. and the 'tx spam' is sent in rapid succession, and depends on previous instances of same, and hence spends much of its life cycle as 'orphan tx'
asciilifeform: there are other ways to filter spam, no ?
trinque: the box was getting ass-blasted with spam
trinque: for no better reason than I've required it on my end and it cut spam by 100x
ascii_modem: needs spam
decimation: at any rate it is clear someone revved up spam machine
ascii_field: this entire line of thought is not entirely disconnected from the 'transaction spam' thread
mircea_popescu: nah just spam txn rejected.
asciilifeform: presently i'm not certain why i should give a fuck re: the spam
mike_c: Sorry for part spam.. different client/computer than usual.
punkman: the "spam" is now up to 0.00034513 fee
shinohai: but not trilema, and nothing in spam folder so i dunno :/
mircea_popescu: shinohai spam filters ?
mats: 'i dun wanna hold gigs of "spam" on my drive, and nobody else does either'
ascii_field: though gotta wonder if this is still fair to say re: a gigantic sack of shit with the words 'this is spam, and fuck you' printed right on it
trinque: IF IT HAS A FEE ATTACHED AND IS A VALID TXN, IT'S NOT SPAM
trinque: same idiot argument re: spam as Luke-Jr
decimation: if usg can spam uv over a large area for hours, then you probably have bigger problems than money
funkenstein_: http://pastebin.com/EdtwCsw1 <-- just for fun i made signed 250kb TX sending 11 millies from "cat" spam address to thebitcoin.foundation treasury
assbot: The current spam attack on Bitcoin is not economically feasible on Litecoin : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1CZywvF )
funkenstein_: speaking thereof: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ci25k/the_current_spam_attack_on_bitcoin_is_not/
BingoBoingo: stress test demonstrates 1MB is plenty big to allow for periodic spam attacks, and bigger blocks would make bloat attacks still cheaper
trinque: if someone really wants to "spam" let him pay the fees sufficient to do so, and he can keep that up for as many blocks as he likes, bidding against every other person who wants in the block
danielpbarron: the outputs must be old enough to not set off spam filters or whatever
trinque: for some odd reason spam botnets don't seem to bother at all with tls being required
trinque: jurov: could the btc-dev mailing list send mail via tls? requiring that on my mailserver's end has drastically cut down on spam, but I think that's causing me to miss mailing list messages
BingoBoingo: <funkenstein_> like, ddosed << No, "Stress Tested" which means showing how great present anti-spam limit is because spammers
BingoBoingo: Indeed, all they wanted was to spam boner pills and invent people for FakeBook profiles
asciilifeform: thought they were signing up for a quiet life of sending viagra spam
asciilifeform: specifically was done to simulate orphan spam.
asciilifeform: who says what tx is 'spam'? god ?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: what i was trying to get across earlier is that the very concept of 'mempool spam' is presently undefined
asciilifeform: a sp4mz0r would have to spam with ~realistic~ tx
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: shooting the tx orphanage in the head rid us of the most obvious spam vector
thestringpuller: i know but how would mempool be effectively capped so nodes don't purge "important" tx's if people spam network
punkman: did the qntra spam affect the other domains too?
cazalla: isn't this just a case of someone (likely guy who ddos joiners here) sending out spam from another server but spoofing return address so qntra email gets hammered with delivery fail spam?
mircea_popescu: how did someone end up sending spam off qntra server is what i mean
cazalla: spam?
SuchWow: again, it was just the spam that made me come back and say hi :)
decimation: doh sorry for the chan spam
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: usg-themed spam is sop for years now
referredbyloper: hey no, i'm not spam bot :D
BingoBoingo: Fuck, I really am torn on whether ot not to approve spam comment for "mosin nagant 10 round magazine"
asciilifeform: stands to reason that once enemy engages he'll begin to spam the remaining irc seed chans - or even backport mechanism to his branch
asciilifeform: don't forget mr spam.
Adlai: and i don't even have to spam my qntra pushes across the entire userbase
copypaste: it doesn't need to be secure if i just want to spam
mircea_popescu: than the spam costs you
copypaste: due to this plugin. just a matter of it getting big enough for a spammer to find it fun to spam.
assbot: Logged on 22-05-2015 15:29:17; asciilifeform: l0l! that thing actually existed as something other than spam ads ?!
asciilifeform: l0l! that thing actually existed as something other than spam ads ?! ☟︎
asciilifeform: why spam drop has to be in 'gmail' ? (not that this isn't one of the few remaining uses of it)
decimation: asciilifeform: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9561764 < lol you butthurt the mr. spam mod
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: going by the style, it's our old phriend, mr spam
asciilifeform: it obsoletes all other spam filtration and membership mechanisms
ascii_field: http://trilema.com/2009/fumez/#comment-114192 << l0l! how come -i- don't get ru spam ?!
cazalla: yup, so if you don't want to have spam sent to your inbox or want an address that is shared, it's useful for that
mircea_popescu: williamdunne afaik they restricted new accounts because nobody was giving a shit and there was too much spam
Adlai: she can't spam faster than the speed of flood
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: it is precisely like the spam cargo cult
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: Nah, then you just end up bloating the chain with welfare spam
mircea_popescu: Subject: Please, this is not a SPAM. We need your indispensable input on an important digital currency study
decimation: and then route packets through aws just for spam protection
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes also rode 'spam air' ?
williamdunne: 20:50:53 - mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109367 << you actually getting any packet spam or is that thing history by now ? << I've not experienced any either way ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109367 << you actually getting any packet spam or is that thing history by now ? ☝︎
asciilifeform will probably pass on Spam Air next go around
ascii_panama: re: the spam thread: mircea_popescu laughs, but market consisting solely of 'mazerati' does not make sense
ascii_panama: how to not love Spam Air
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Only filed because necessary to certify with USG 0 payments on stafford loan repayment plan. Can only tolerate so much phone spam
assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 18:53:58; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105803 << because they don't know how to use email. a) they top answer ; b) they add all that signature spam.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105803 << because they don't know how to use email. a) they top answer ; b) they add all that signature spam. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: basically, this is not different from shanonizer (seen commonly in spam)