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funkenstein_: not sure why i like him, considering a decade of wrong predictions once a week
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2015 21:40:27; trinque: I'm skeptical of the american notion of individualism, but am not precisely sure how far to take that skepticism
funkenstein_: american, african, and chinese are all asked, what's your opinion of your country's food?
mircea_popescu: we currently have 29 like 4 times (expected 2ish) and 11 or 13 0 times
assbot: The strange case of the unentropic entropy and other bedtime stories of primes and people. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1f3ZkFJ )
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2015 22:26:59; nubbins`: imagine being so empty of purpose that you put actual energy into creating internet fat shame memes
Vexual: hi, the amount of alcohol required to parse the logs is increasing
Vexual: what the foundation policy on sending small amounts?
Vexual: yeah, that was more aabout the amount of alcohol reqd
Vexual: so why disallow sending 1 satoshi?
Vexual: what of poorly designed services that might send unconfirmed amounts with fees then?
Vexual: well im postulating, i dont know of any
funkenstein_: lifting all these blocks gonna give me a hearneia
mircea_popescu: nothing prevents you from generating any arbitrary count of addresses.
funkenstein_: one solution is to just rip out all the wallet stuff completely
mircea_popescu: you can pre-load your wallet with 100k addresses for future use.
mircea_popescu: alternatively we could just leave this be for now and focus on CLOSING things rather than opening new things before we closed anything.
☟︎ funkenstein_: by random change address, I thought you meant the order it is listed in the TX
mircea_popescu: because it's your father's pistol collection and nobody asked you anything ?
mircea_popescu: throwing out the pistols that are on fire is one thing
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the change address mechanism is bizarre, esp in its interraction with backups, but imo not actually doing anything bad. you shouldn't have backups that it affects negatively anyway, if you comprehend backups.
mircea_popescu: there's a huge difference from taking out harmful stuff and taking out spurious stuff. these are never ghoing to be the first step, and we've not completed the first step yet
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform when you speak of "a" backup you're already out in cosmic space. backups are a process not an item.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform enemy is not in it for aesthetic considerations
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform judging by the alleged models they use, i'd be surprised too. except i don't believe even for a second the inept allegations of the shithead ycombinator parade.
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decimation: asciilifeform: are you saying google is gonna buy sks servers and slowly fade them away?
mod6: Going back to this error from lastnight: net.cpp:1358:23: error: 'INT64_MIN' was not declared in this scope
decimation: mod6 is there an INT64_MIN in bitcoin? jurov's tool doesn't see it
mod6: here's what I discovered: ``#define __STDC_LIMIT_MACROS'' is in ``headers.h''. But if I add ``#define __STDC_LIMIT_MACROS'' with ``#include <stdint.h>'' directly after the #define in net.cpp, then it compiles fine. I found the same errors in util.cpp and wallet.cpp. Added those two lines fixes it in all places.
mod6: decimation: should be line 1359 int64 nBest = INT64_MIN; of (net.cpp)
mod6: im not sure what jurov's thing shows. i go by what's in the v0.5.3.1-RELEASE.tar.gz with hash: 5c41fe6cf286770a25bf61ab0c35747d0c760f8656754296d2e1d3c4274b5686
mod6: anyway, after I fixed those hiccups, then I ran into this when linking. any thoughts here? this is a gentoo with nearly nothing installed... :
http://dpaste.com/0HQTB32.txt decimation: INT64_MIN is defined in stdint.h on my redhat machine
decimation: adding #include <stdint.h> should be cool
decimation: the linker is saying it can't find your built libssl and libcrypto
mod6: yeah, i tried with just ``#include <stdint.h>'', no dice, same error. my /usr/include/stdint.h has: #if !defined __cplusplus || defined __STDC_LIMIT_MACROS ... # define INT64_MIN (-__INT64_C(9223372036854775807)-1)
☟︎ mod6: <+decimation> the linker is saying it can't find your built libssl and libcrypto << hmm i guess i can understand libcrypto, but openssl was built with auto.sh... would have though it could ifnd it..
mod6: ip-172-31-2-241 bitcoin-v0_5_3_1 # whereis libcrypto libcrypto: /usr/lib/libcrypto.so
mod6: ah, it's an .so... so maybe it's looking for a .a
mod6: openssl? yeah, i believe it built just fine.
mod6: I have that whole part saved in a typescript. lemme check
decimation: is your target libcrypto and libssl in /usr/lib or in your built auto.sh targets?
decimation: like, libssl.a and libcrypto.a should be in /mnt/btc-dev/sandbox-20150609-v0531-gentoo-uclibc/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/ourlibs/lib
mod6: ip-172-31-2-241 sandbox-20150609-v0531-gentoo-uclibc # find /mnt/btc-dev/sandbox-20150609-v0531-gentoo-uclibc -name "*libssl*" \ /mnt/btc-dev/sandbox-20150609-v0531-gentoo-uclibc/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/openssl-1.0.1g/libssl.pc \ /mnt/btc-dev/sandbox-20150609-v0531-gentoo-uclibc/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/openssl-1.0.1g/libssl.a
mod6: the typescript does say that it had some error installing the documents or something though, but other than that, looks ok.
decimation: yeah and when it failed to install documents it didn't move it to ourlibs/lib
decimation: which is where bitcoin's makefile wants it
decimation: you are probably missing that one tool
mod6: ah, thanks decimation. that's probably the other part of what nubbins` was saying before about not being copied correctly. i had to copy the headers by hand for it to compile...
decimation: I think I solved it by turning off doc generation
mod6: ok copied libcrypto.a and libssl.a into ourlibs/lib
mod6: got passed that problem... but now have something else.
decimation: it's a weak symbol, the unwind shit is related to debugging
decimation: I'm not sure what the issue is exactly, it's probably some complicated ulibc <-> gcc interaction
mod6: hmm. well, this didn't help either: recompile with -fPIC
mod6: maybe I have it in the wrong spot though.
mod6: gentoo has a page that mentions PIEs & PICs... maybe i can try without -fPIE and see what happens.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14266 @ 0.0003576 = 5.1015 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 11-06-2015 02:07:08; mod6: yeah, i tried with just ``#include <stdint.h>'', no dice, same error. my /usr/include/stdint.h has: #if !defined __cplusplus || defined __STDC_LIMIT_MACROS ... # define INT64_MIN (-__INT64_C(9223372036854775807)-1)
mod6: oh you think that's causing this issue?
mod6: well, i've got the stdint thing figured out for the time being. i've applied your patch "asciilifeform-kills-integer-retardation.patch" and "nubs-gentoo-sanity.patch".
mod6: no, those where in there from the beginning. i ended up adding ``#define __STDC_LIMIT_MACROS'' with ``#include <stdint.h>'' to net.cpp, util.cpp and wallet.cpp and then is ok.
☟︎ mod6: the other issue is the linking thing...
mod6: the linker is saying that an R_X86_64_PC32 relocation against an undefined symbol can't be used in a shared object... maybe your removal of the dns shit fixes this. not sure. will try adding that patch as well if this next thing doesn't work.
mod6: __GI___pthread_cleanup_upto
mod6: unless i'm just dumb, and it's related to "getnameinfo()", but i honestly didn't think it was reated.
decimation: it's something to do with linking between ulibc, gcc, pthread
mod6: decimation: i saw that there. lol, there aren't many people who've encoutered this.
decimation: heh yeah only crazies would consider writing cpp for embedded or static linking
decimation: mod6 what version of ulibc are you using
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mod6: <+decimation> mod6 what version of ulibc are you using << lemme see what i can find.
decimation: lol it's a gcc bug reported in 2007, not fixed until 2015
decimation: mod6: what version of gcc are you using
mod6: gcc (Gentoo Hardened 4.8.4 p1.5, pie-0.6.1) 4.8.4
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decimation: unless the fix was backported, you need gcc 5.1
decimation: if it's this gcc bug, it wasn't fixed until 13 feb 2015
mod6: so this might not be a problem, but i was just looking at the environement to see if something is out of whack. it seems the /usr/bin/gcc isn't quite the same as the /usr/x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/gcc-bin/4.8.4/x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc-gcc :
http://dpaste.com/19T1QMN.txt mod6: they do have different hashes, etc.
decimation: I'm not sure, but I do know if that if the fix I found above isn't integrated it might not matter
mod6: yeah. it seems weird from that other link that uclibc should have a fix applied in branch 0.9.32, or did i misunderstand that.
mod6: so thinking that my 0.9.33.2 /should/ be okay...
mod6: ok. np. the message didn't say. i guess i could try pulling the 4.8.4 source or whatever and see.
mod6: i would think i would need to build whatevre this is: x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc-gcc (Gentoo Hardened 4.8.4 p1.5, pie-0.6.1) 4.8.4 + the obscure patch in msg00410
mod6: makes me as jumpy as a longtalied cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
mod6: mod6: Sir Grayhawk, I would like to use this recipe to craft a static apple pie. Sir Grayhawk: Let me traide you for this here Universe Schematic.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.0003576 = 4.0051 BTC [-]
laylagottawatch: seriously tho people say how eric clapton bout this watch or that watch, who gives a shizen
mircea_popescu: <mod6> mod6: Sir Grayhawk, I would like to use this recipe to craft a static apple pie. Sir Grayhawk: Let me traide you for this here Universe Schematic. << WUT ?!
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00036446 = 2.3508 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'change addr' << i have banged on at length about this brain damage
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2015 15:29:44; mircea_popescu: cazalla well, dja wanna quit ?
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2015 15:39:41; mircea_popescu: who/what is a bailey jay
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cazalla: which is really strange given coontown does target (reddit's ver of targeting) people
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shinohai: The mix tape for a new generation.
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shinohai: biodiversity is an interesting subject.
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nubbins`: "the fact that most people won’t learn about sexual variation until COLLEGE is ... VIOLENT"
nubbins`: the fact that "Leah, 20." feels the education system should be the primary educator of children is telling
nubbins`: i've been trying to sell a single bitcoin in -otc for three days
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33136 @ 0.00036279 = 12.0214 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37200 @ 0.00037954 = 14.1189 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00035086 / 0.00036706 / 0.00037954 (2532822 shares, 929.71 BTC), 7D: 0.00031746 / 0.00035429 / 0.00037954 (38569463 shares, 13,665.09 BTC), 30D: 0.00024032 / 0.00030726 / 0.00037954 (137645789 shares, 42,294.10 BTC)
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nubbins`: i think she ordered the vegetarian spaghetti
mircea_popescu: that's good, a slut somewhere's contemplating eating manballs.
nubbins`: tesla batteries would be great for my home, if (a) non-peak rates were offered here, or (b) net metering was an option
nubbins`: was this the neighbour who'd been broken into?
nubbins`: i guess she's not a cat woman anymore.
nubbins`: never to return? seems unlikely
nubbins`: unless they were held against their will
nubbins`: (cats are v territorial, don't just "run away")
mircea_popescu: nubbins` and also if (c) you were a salamander so fire hazard was not a concern
nubbins`: cats running away generally isn't a thing that happens, unless they're running from a new home to their previous one
nubbins`: but they'll lose that urge after a couple weeks.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9349 @ 0.00038149 = 3.5666 BTC [+]
nubbins`: anecdote: Dory popped through the screen window yesterday
nubbins`: i step through the front door to fetch her, and she's worriedly trotting around meowing at neighbouring windows, trying to figure out which house is hers
mircea_popescu: i imagine The Outside must look to a modern pet cat much like the same looks to a modern teenager.
nubbins`: we have a king size mattress. they're not THAT expensive :P
nubbins`: so if you wanna lie sideways, your legs hang off the edge?
nubbins`: that was directed towards alf, heh
nubbins`: that was actually dory's second time out front
nubbins`: the first time, she was just sitting in the window checking things out
nubbins`: then her hated enemy, Gandalf, approaches the window
nubbins`: and Dory actually launched herself at him, busting the screen out of the window, and chased him down the block
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you could cut her in half, have a chunk curl up on either side.
nubbins`: it was bananas and i was almost too high to deal with it
mircea_popescu: "your honor, i only fuck preteens because the floor space is so expensive"
nubbins`: only when they wear the copper brush undies
nubbins`: and you thought a hair shirt was bad
nubbins`: so i've got this conveyor oven for curing ink on shirts, yes?
nubbins`: i ws connecting some ducting to the exhaust fan last fall and realized that the mfg installed the fucking fan upside-down
nubbins`: seriously. exhaust fan pointed down into the oven.
nubbins`: he built me a t-shirt oven that blasts cool air onto the sides of the shirts it's trying to cure.
nubbins`: anyway. no big deal, tap some new holes, screw the thing in the right way.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19247 @ 0.00038149 = 7.3425 BTC [+]
nubbins`: they also wired the fucking motor backwards
nubbins`: so the heat/speed controls are on the fucking output side of it
mircea_popescu: the fucktards end up employed in productive activities
nubbins`: anyway, this is a roundabout way of saying that i'm gonna be rewiring a DC motor for the first time today
nubbins`: sources say i just gotta swap the red and black
nubbins`: asciilifeform i think the usa is still dealing w/ that
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform /me is deeply unconcinved by the theory.
mircea_popescu: well, some whore also got office in italy about some time
nubbins`: the only one w/ a SAG membership, anyway.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fact that he let the loonies out is a fact. the proposition that this had any measurable effect is loonytalk
mircea_popescu: mostly off the sort of schmucks who either depend on or aim to depend on a "social worker" career
nubbins`: in other shop news, i've got a lead on a new (to me) flash dryer from the shop i used to work part-time at
nubbins`: new owners love their new flash dryer so much that they DON'T WANT their old one.
nubbins`: nevermind that they've got two shirt presses and one of them can only do single-color prints because it has no flash.
nubbins`: sell the old, working flash to me :D
mircea_popescu: sounds like you got yourselves the best sort of friends after "she likes to fuck" : the clueless.
mircea_popescu: other things "everyone in usa" is convinced of include the fact that their feelings matter.
mircea_popescu: yeah, there are. over 10mn people live in them, half of which "veterans"
mircea_popescu: except they're no longer centralized and so less obvious
mircea_popescu: the 99% is, basically, random apartments all over town
assbot: Logged on 11-06-2015 05:42:59; davout: wtf am i reading
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nubbins`: i bet those things cost like $500ea
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> <mod6> mod6: Sir Grayhawk, I would like to use this recipe to craft a static apple pie. Sir Grayhawk: Let me traide you for this here Universe Schematic. << WUT ?! << 'twas a joke. the old one about how a programmer wanted to bake an apple pie but first has to invent a universe. 'cept in this one static bitcoind is the pie, and the universe is gentoo/uclibc/gcc/etc. :]
mircea_popescu: o god almighty, a whole generation of ignorant, poor twerps. running their own country.
mircea_popescu: im so going to go on bison safari through the most powerful country in the world before long...
nubbins`: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
nubbins`: "we're banning people, not coontown"
mircea_popescu: nubbins` and the best part is, someone rolled their eyes and muttered "obviously" over this.
nubbins`: that is how much i cannot even
mircea_popescu: (they were throught extinct after ww2. much like anything larger than a cat)
nubbins`: is the singular of zimbrii "zimbra"?
nubbins`: ;;google talking heads i zimbra
nubbins`: after clicking around on /r/coontown a bit
nubbins`: sure am glad reddit is a, uh.. safe space?
mircea_popescu: a) it doesn't compile, so they prefer interpreted languages instead and b) it doesn't debug, so they prefer to write more instead.
nubbins`: that's ellen pao explaining why coontown wasn't one of the subreddits that got banned
nubbins`: because maintaining a "nigger hate" forum isn't behaviour, it's an idea
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2015 19:42:15; ascii_field: ms-dos was not asked to do very much. at least, at first. but i still remember screwing with qemm, xms, etc. towards the last years.
mircea_popescu: to everything i've seen since the 80s, i by a very fat large margin prefer msdos.
mircea_popescu: you know i never had a computer "freeze" ? crash, yes.
nubbins`: quote in title from salman rushdie
nubbins`: one of these days i'mma read up on exactly wtf phuctor is doing
nubbins` has laughably little hands-on experience with the nuts & bolts of this math
assbot: Logged on 11-06-2015 01:20:23; mircea_popescu: alternatively we could just leave this be for now and focus on CLOSING things rather than opening new things before we closed anything.
nubbins`: i'm still working on porting 0.5.3.1 to IBM i
mircea_popescu: ‘There is no right not to be offended’ << this is broken, ftr. "there is no right TO not be offended"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's scheduled for after the build's ready to go.
nubbins`: until the next time some shit cloud device get liquidated
nubbins`: altho i'm somewhat tempted to put my SSD in this disc duplicator instead
nubbins`: but i suppose i should wait and see if that's a necessary thing first.
nubbins`: any of you familiar with this "M-DISC" technology?
nubbins`: from what i can glean from marketing hype, they use special dvd-rs and ramp up the laser strength to make "permanent" optical media
nubbins`: they keep using phrases like "ETCHED IN STONE" and shit which sounds a bit much
nubbins`: they use the phrase "engraved in stone" a few times
nubbins`: i actually make my own discs out of bronze backed w/ ultra-black nanoparticles
nubbins`: i wonder how long minidisc media holds onto data?
nubbins` found his minidisc player/recorder yesterday, still works!
nubbins`: it's "magneto-optical" so i'd say fairly transient
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nubbins`: asciilifeform no, but that's sage
nubbins`: BOWDLER LIVES AND HIS NAME IS MAN
mircea_popescu: we now nothing of proper shakespeare, for this reason.
nubbins`: i learned recently that shakespeare invented the name "jessica"
mircea_popescu: "we don't ban ideas, we just ban anything that's unbowlder, for bowlder is us"
nubbins`: allahisgreat2000: as-salaam aleikum
allahisgreat2000: I'm having trouble figuring out how weight for a bet is calculated
nubbins`: asciilifeform language in general suffers from loss of reading mechanisms over time
nubbins`: allahisgreat2000: it's sort of complicated, and your odds will change as more people bet
allahisgreat2000: what stops people from betting more when the results start getting obvious and ruining your bet?
nubbins` seriously considers purchasing a new(er) minidisc player and some more blanks, while he still can
mircea_popescu: allahisgreat2000 they get lower weight for betting later.
nubbins`: allahisgreat2000: generally the weight will decrease as the bet gets closer to close.
nubbins`: allahisgreat2000: early bets have higher weight and are therefore worth more.
nubbins`: a last-minute bet will take some of your winnings, yes, but they'd have to bet an enormous amount and get chump change in return
assbot: BitBet - S.MG above 2x par on October 1st, 2014 :: 1.18 B (8%) on Yes, 14.07 B (92%) on No | closed 8 months 2 weeks ago ... (
http://bit.ly/1FUWsAs )
nubbins`: that last bet put 8 BTC on the line, but only earned 0.2 BTC
nubbins`: had to monetize that warrant somehow
nubbins`: allahisgreat2000: the earlier 5 BTC bet won ~0.7 BTC
nubbins`: note how the weight is lower for each successive bet
allahisgreat2000: I'm trying to figure out if there could be a system to combine pool betting and livebetting/betting exchange
nubbins`: mircea_popescu it took me about a week to figure out the nuts & bolts of it.
mats: asciilifeform: OSX has so many skeletons, from NeXT, Mach, and the PPC days...
nubbins`: tying up 5 btc for 6 months to earn 0.7 isn't particularly lucrative; if i were to do it again, i'd do a shorter bet
assbot: Logged on 11-06-2015 14:13:10; nubbins`: but i was set to gain either way
mats: you know you're rich when a 14% ROI over 6mos is considered a weak investment
nubbins`: mircea_popescu living proof :D
nubbins`: mats i live the life of the carefree boheme, as alf would put it
assbot: Logged on 11-06-2015 12:18:37; nubbins`: i've been trying to sell a single bitcoin in -otc for three days
nubbins`: actually, i print because there's a very basic yet powerful reinforcement in holding something of beauty that you've created with your own hands.
nubbins`: i do, incidentally, like the smell of ink, but only water-based acrylic
mircea_popescu: (women, contrary to what they project, would biologically prefer the smaller imposition)
nubbins` imagines that most of the lurkers in here assume he's on welfare
nubbins`: mircea_popescu the majority of people on irc who don't work in tech are generally on some form of social assistance
☟︎ nubbins`: you're not on social assistance either, which puts you on one of the tails
mircea_popescu: i think "in tech" is one of those, could either be in or out depending where you want to present yourself.
mircea_popescu: are women that live somewhere in the continuum between chattel property and housewife on "some form of social assistance" ?
nubbins`: unless, y'know, the husband is on social assistance.
nubbins`: i specifically mean cashing cheques written by gov.
nubbins`: that's why they're sitting on irc.
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mircea_popescu: buncha dumb blondies all over, except they're not so nice to look at anymore.
mircea_popescu: kinda the intension of my old "too dumb to sling dope" piece
nubbins`: i've seen some pret-t-t-t-t-y dumb people sling dope
mircea_popescu: nubbins` anyway, if your definition of social assistance is "spends govt checks" then everyone in the us is on social assistance, much like everyoner ever in any developed country throughout history, at all points.
mircea_popescu: because essentially what statehood means is this "we band together, get the bison, and then you can have some"
mircea_popescu: so yes roman citizens lived off the imperial dole. but also fought in the wars.
mircea_popescu: and yes the british citizenry lived off the imperial dole. but etc.
mircea_popescu: just as soon as people become unwilling to participate, the dole dries out AND civilisation's gone
nubbins`: my definition is "gov gives you money for not doing anything, and this is your sole source of income"
nubbins`: so are most of the people on irc.
mircea_popescu: what is this "not doing anything", and whence it became possible to not do anything.
nubbins`: what if this discussion devolved to absurdity?
mircea_popescu: it's not absurdity yo. it's just outside of your preconceived outlook.
mircea_popescu: take the mental experiment of, two states which each consist of one woman.
mircea_popescu: state a keeps her "on welfare". state b makes her work in the grocery store.
mircea_popescu: i visit. if it's the case that i like the rested look of the woman in a, then state a just scored. no longer welfare.
mircea_popescu: if i like the busy look of woman in b, then b just scored. a is a pos nao shame on it for its moral bending ways.
nubbins` runs out of hands, smacks face on desk
mircea_popescu: as you can see, the entire definition rests on what ~i~ prefer,
mircea_popescu: aww, and i didn't even get to inquire if the woman that said "because we are also the only ones who give birth to men." was on welfare or not.
mircea_popescu: the fact that pubescent girl has not considered the possibility of cock
mircea_popescu: does not mean her cunt is not evolving with deliberate decisiveness towards accomodating it.
mircea_popescu: this idea that homo artifex and somehow things that are are the result of deliberate reason etc...
mircea_popescu: this is my objection throughout this conversation : he was cutting the definiton to its first surface, like the people in your magic show. and now you wish to cut interaction to the first branch.
nubbins`: i had my first jehovas a couple days ago
nubbins`: in 4 years of living at this address
nubbins`: asciilifeform maybe it's an episode of hoarders?
nubbins`: things get tangly exponentially fast with the cat ones
mircea_popescu: i thought iut was "newspaper ; plastic bottle ; other"
nubbins`: asciilifeform and they won't even wear spacesuits
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23750 @ 0.00037026 = 8.7937 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: i wonder what specific changes i'd need to make to print PCBs here
nubbins` suspects "more ventilation" is high on the list
mircea_popescu hopes to visit one such house before he dies, where half is all tussled in silks and the other half is roughtly what i imagine alf already built.
nubbins`: asciilifeform i think solvent inks and a few chems are about all i'd need
mircea_popescu: nubbins` by print pcbs do you mean draw on them, ordo you mean etch them ?
nubbins`: i'm sure you could also silkscreen etching mask stuff, but sounds nasty
nubbins`: asciilifeform in fact, prepping a screen for printing is very similar to b&w photography.
nubbins`: mesh is coated with photosensitive emulsion, exposed on light table w/ positive image masked
nubbins`: solder mask can be silkscreened
nubbins`: it's disastrous on a t-shirt too
nubbins`: i should show you some of the multi-layer prints i've done
nubbins`: cats almost certainly ate her face, if so
nubbins`: hm, you can silkscreen etch-resist too
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decimation: I read a paper recently that indicated that there was a link between long-term cat ownership and crazy
nubbins` throws paper away and devotes life to producing PCBs
decimation: perhaps, but when you are a crazy cat lady with 50 cats...
nubbins`: i think the mechanism is lonely people buy cats and further withdraw
decimation: asciilifeform: I'm typing on a genuine model m, it is better than the unicomp
nubbins`: packs of old ladies circling the shelter all day
nubbins`: ^ geometry drove me away from DVORAK
decimation: I didn't think of that for some reason
decimation: but the whole point of remapping control is so that you don't cripple pinky
mircea_popescu: the REASON it didn't use to be available was pure expense, but now every xbox comes with em
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform probably because they're shitty whole foot pedals
decimation: but timing on the 'volume control' in the piano isn't quite as critical
decimation: nevertheless, the key feel of a real model m is suprerior to unicomp
nubbins`: asciilifeform those look largely inefficient
mircea_popescu: toe pedal. like one of those clickers people use to count crowds ?
nubbins`: you need something like a stompbox
nubbins`: stompbox casing w/ whatever switch you like
nubbins`: how about a sewing machine pedal?
nubbins`: kick drum pedal w/ clicky button under the hammer.
nubbins`: apple "magic mouse" resting on floor.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know you could prolly hack a gravimeter off an old "smart"phone and a sock together into an excellent pedal.
decimation: without tactile feedback for when shit 'breaks'
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nubbins`: asciilifeform have you considered just mounting a keyboard spring mechanism on a piece of wood and putting a hinged cover on it?
nubbins`: you could use your favourite letter.
decimation: what about that guy who did the card-counting scam in the casino
nubbins`: asciilifeform put some levelers under the spring mech so you can raise/lower it
decimation: on the other hand, organists play entire keyboard with feet
decimation: go to a church with a proper pipe organ and see
decimation: not only that but ranks of pull-switches to change voice
nubbins`: asciilifeform arcade-style buttons have a nice click and reasonable action
decimation: asciilifeform: they are now associated with 'black church music'
nubbins`: i've got a box full of them somewhere
decimation: but used to be common in everyday 'talkie'
nubbins`: nice click. i think they bounce like crazy tho
nubbins` frowns, considers building MAME cabinet
decimation: obviously the point was to save on labor - 'one man band'
nubbins`: this is like the analog equivalent of a room-sized Moog
assbot: Logged on 11-06-2015 13:33:12; asciilifeform: unless 'bisons' refers to another species altogether
nubbins`: i thought you guys called em buffalo
BingoBoingo: Wild Bison release still largely verboten for the same reason they were eradicated. Transportation issues and can't let the Sioux get a foothold.
mircea_popescu: bison bison is one thing, the us buffalo. bison bonasus is the european guy, like the one discussed above.
mircea_popescu: and bos sp (ie, cows/oxen of all types) hybridize with it.
mircea_popescu: unlike the case with eq. africanus / eq, caballus, the offspring's not usually infertile.
mircea_popescu: (the yak, although long haired, is still a sort of cow, rather than a sort of bison)
mircea_popescu: and in unrelated stuff : it is perhaps known by the esteemed audience that the (mostly) lacedemonian cult of hyacinth most likely provided the backing for most of christianity's christ-centric mythology (as opposed to its mary fixations).
mircea_popescu: specifically, this was a very accomplished youth that was disputed by the sun god and the wind god, and favoured the sun god. so the wind god arranged for something to fall on his head.
mircea_popescu: so they had a festival (hyacinthia) which took three days, and the first was mourning, and the 2nd celebration over the alleged rebirth and so on.
mircea_popescu: all this, a good five to ten centuries before jewish sect split off.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18774 @ 0.00037137 = 6.9721 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: and the spartans took breaks from their wars to go back and celebrate... hyacinthsmas.
pete_dushenski: i could see secular post-post-modern version being 'narcissismas'
pete_dushenski: i also found that the winbloze "firefox 29" links to... the exact same mystery file
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pete_dushenski: in the 20-odd other versions i checked, all the others linked to the expected file
mircea_popescu: "at this sacred time of the year we go back home to be by ourselves)
pete_dushenski: "on our phones. in front of the mirror. while sitting on the shitter."
pete_dushenski: "it's how we remember where we came from and where we're going"
pete_dushenski: in other news, inflation strikes mozilla : "Mozilla has more than doubled the cash rewards under its dusty bug bounty to beyond $10,000."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31150 @ 0.00036224 = 11.2838 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: "the fledgling accountless Bitcoin gaming site Satoshi Dice lead it to a long reign" << BingoBoingo wordiness aside, it's missing "and"
BingoBoingo: Fixed, pete_dushenski but instead of "and" fixed it with "ing"
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: also "as the most popular Bitcoin gambling sites of the time." << mixing singular and plural
mircea_popescu: i can't read that fuckin ss. can't it be a log in text format like with sane ppls.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: copypaste twatter'd it as an image
BingoBoingo: Basically copypaste pointed out reddit users are cuckolds who just take it
mircea_popescu: anyway, copypaste has it. "adjusting to circumvent the rules" is more empowering of the idiots than actually following the rules. NO. let them go hang with their rules.
mircea_popescu: Regardless of whether you waive the fine or not, and despite conditional terms added to reassert authority, I will continue to secure trash correctly.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59176 @ 0.00036591 = 21.6531 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40367 @ 0.00038149 = 15.3996 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: "I have also heard that music soothes the savage beast but the last time I sang Whitney Houston's 'The Greatest Love of All' to my offspring, it had the opposite effect despite what I considered to be an excellent reproduction of her tonal range." << combined with dog/bear in jeep and... i died !
pete_dushenski: "I know someone who contracted Ross River Virus several years ago and he needs to be pushed around in a wheel-chair, moaning the whole time about his joints and inadequate ramp access. I visited him in his ground-floor apartment once but it was a miserable and forced conversation so I told him I had a present for him in the car and went to get it. Then drove home."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12653 @ 0.00038149 = 4.827 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105900 @ 0.00036061 = 38.1886 BTC [-] {5}
pete_dushenski: quite the little spread between bid/ask on mpoe these last few days.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski im surprised he's not a lot more widely known.
pete_dushenski: i came across thorne a few years back when a friend bought me a collection of his stories
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo and i expect reddit admins don't now self ban for the whale watching incident because while they don't ban ideas but actiosn, nevertheless their own actions are extempt, because
pete_dushenski: pretty sure i mentioned and sourced (at least) one of his pieces for a contravex article a few months back
mircea_popescu: ie, to the bureaucrat's mind, HE is the only one entitled to be in the world (on account of his job)
pete_dushenski: the world must conform to the bureaucrat's 'ideas', namely, the words scrawled on the 'regulation' piece of paper
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski the funny thing is, they watched the internet completely destroy the journalism business model, 1990-2010
mircea_popescu: and did not for a second realise that... guess who's next ?
mircea_popescu: as they say, if you don't know who's next.... you're next.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: bureaucrats probably assumed they could throw manufacturing under the bus next
BingoBoingo: Seriously though zippo, works exactly as advertsed while made in USia. I did not know anything like this was still made
☟︎ BingoBoingo: My though is maybe the manufactering setup is too expensive to move?
pete_dushenski: also, smokers are a traditional bunch, not looking for bluetooth connectivity on their zippo
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: more likely brand value of "made in usa" and sufficiently cheap labour (non-union)
BingoBoingo: Well the thing is stamped pennsylvania so likely union
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo could be a case of brazil made but well hidden fact fraud. how do you know it's us made ?
BingoBoingo: Can't find anything online about the great zippo layoff though
assbot: Logged on 11-06-2015 14:19:43; nubbins`: mircea_popescu the majority of people on irc who don't work in tech are generally on some form of social assistance
mircea_popescu: in any case, i'll make the point that i am not at all against welfare, but i am dead-stone-cold against the state having anything to do with it.
mircea_popescu: it's a source of power for it that it should never even dream of, and it's a source of moral hazard for society the likes of which can not even be described.
mircea_popescu: welfare, like ownership of women and children, should be strictly in the hands of the citizenry.
mircea_popescu: (the two incidentally are not at all that distinct, welfare and ownership of people as things)
pete_dushenski: just found a curious bug in search.b-a : if the search contains the '%' symbol, clicking 'next page' sends you back to the blank search homepage
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: so it's in the state's interest to maximise welfare distribution
mircea_popescu: well, it baloons because the state doesn't have to pay for it.
mircea_popescu: if i got to sign checks off your bank account, i could probably have enough "friends" to fill your house with drunks.
pete_dushenski: whereas a citizen is limited by his own pocketbook, right.
mircea_popescu: as shown by the relative rarity of homeowners filling thew place with drunks.
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nubbins`: i believe you requested this a while back
gribble: Current Blocks: 360488 | Current Difficulty: 4.758959115362501E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 360863 | Next Difficulty In: 375 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 8 hours, 57 minutes, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: afaik NOBODY makes good digital pedals
ascii_field: (entirely not same animal as racing or flightsim pedals)
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Ah digital. yeah that's analog
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00038149 = 9.8806 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 11-06-2015 16:30:29; mircea_popescu: for instance i have nfi how it's possible alfie's not a fan
assbot: Logged on 11-06-2015 16:36:46; BingoBoingo: Seriously though zippo, works exactly as advertsed while made in USia. I did not know anything like this was still made
ascii_field: (butane lighters have existed for what, half a century now ?)
☟︎ BingoBoingo: ascii_field: It's a wick that runs through a course of rayon balls soaked in naptha
BingoBoingo: Excels in the wind which is a constant bane of the smoker
BingoBoingo: Not a single moving part or wear item that isn't user servicable
BingoBoingo has used butane lighters for the longest time, almost always disposable. The refilable ones don't tend to last.
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: i often find these on the pavement. when turned over, they invariably read 'made in china'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00036392 = 6.1502 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: I've had previous lighters of the zippo form before , but they almost always leaked within weeks of purchase
BingoBoingo: And if Imma smoke cigarettes I don't want my meat becoming a fire hazard
nubbins`: ascii_field "fake zippos" are plentiful and outnumber the real ones thousands to one
nubbins`: "real zippos" come with lifetime warranties, and if you mail them a broken zippo from 1930 they'll fix it for free
nubbins`: i can hold one 6" from my face and empty my lungs at it without extinguishing the flame
BingoBoingo has been lighing cigarettes in front of fans in awe. I don't know what I was missing with "Bic"
nubbins`: that said, the ubiquitous Bic lighter is a marvel in its own right
BingoBoingo: It is. Bic will probably remain my lighter for driving
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: why not the electric lighter built into the car?
BingoBoingo: My beloved Saturn, which has forded floods and traversed cornfields... lacks one
BingoBoingo: Instead it has utility plug which rejects replacement lighters
BingoBoingo: Maybe some Z80 motherfucker detects the resistance of a lighter
nubbins`: my car also has a "power outlet" w/ no lighter
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Dealership was rental place which rented car previously
nubbins`: just as likely for the cig to stick to the coil and you end up with a hot cherry in your lap
nubbins`: plus they get dirty w/ ash etc
nubbins`: about as sensible as lighting a cig on an electric stove element while in the home
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Yeah in previous car I disliked it. Cig sticks the thing stays hot so potential disaster if dropped. No point in it if it can only be safely used while parked or staopped
nubbins`: i dropped the car lighter once while driving, had to pull over
BingoBoingo: <nubbins`> about as sensible as lighting a cig on an electric stove element while in the home << have done this numberous times. Works splendidly
nubbins`: works splendidly but i bet you swore for a bic each time
BingoBoingo: Nah, only most times. Most times did it as a party trick for visiting smoker guests.
BingoBoingo pretty sure he has figured out the part of leak resistance most zippo clones neglect.
BingoBoingo: combination of plated brass case and steel fuel holding insert is the trick (beyond measurements)
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Well think about the metals in terms on conparatice hardness and their willingness to flex
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00036801 = 10.2675 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: fine, the outer case is a plated flexible Brass, the inner insert is rigid steel. There is a taper and ring combination between the case and inset that is tight to non-polar fluids. Aluminum on aluminum and Zamac on Zamac don't accomplish this. <<< ATTN CHINESE COUNTERFEITERS PLS ACK
nubbins`: 10yo kid has severe epilepsy, weed reduces their frequency by 99%, kid is not permitted to eat hash brownie
BingoBoingo: Brass though generaly a useful metal. doesn't spark.
nubbins`: "We will continue to combat it. We will continue our anti-drug strategy, we will target youth with the message that marijuana pot is bad for them," the minister said.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.00035513 = 7.6886 BTC [-]
jurov hits nubbins` into the head with the pot
jurov: BAD FOR YA, I TOLD YOU
BingoBoingo: allahisgreat2000: Further BitBet questions?
gribble: yhwh_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 weeks, 1 day, 4 hours, 30 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <yhwh_> tight
jurov: wait till you lose big on "easy" bets
jurov: do is mell martingale?
BingoBoingo: Not always bet against bitcoin, and not always on no
BingoBoingo: ;;google bitbet worth more than satoshi dice
BingoBoingo: ;;google site:bitbet.us bitbet worth more than satoshi dice
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5043 @ 0.00035513 = 1.7909 BTC [-]
assbot: BitBet - BitBet will we worth more than Satoshi Dice :: 3.92 B (18%) on Yes, 17.83 B (82%) on No | closed 1 year 11 months ago ... (
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allahisgreat2000: if not they could probably raise to 5%, I don't think it would seriously set people back from betting
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00035874 = 4.8789 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: allahisgreat2000: Well, the thing is since they already get betting volume 1% keeps away erstwhile competitors
pete_dushenski: in other news, rupert murdoch stepped down as ceo of 21st century fox today
BingoBoingo: allahisgreat2000: It trades is registered on MPEx
pete_dushenski: allahisgreat2000: being traded on mpex is a registration of sorts unto itself
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Excels in the wind which is a constant bane of the smoker << this. butane sucks.
BingoBoingo: I mean the butane torch lighters are cool... until they need refilled
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15719 @ 0.00036532 = 5.7425 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: <allahisgreat2000> why does mpex has such a poor layout? << easy to parse
mircea_popescu: "oh raise it 5x it'd raise 5x and wouldn't lower 5x just my 2%" he should probably target young people with pot messages.
nubbins`: so i now have "concierge service" with the royal canadian mint
mircea_popescu: either that or he's one of those people who've been targetted by ministers
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: add an item to the 'civilization no longer knows how to make these not be garbage' list: logic analyzers...
mircea_popescu: the jury's still out on weed. but fucking ministers are HORRIBLE for youth
nubbins`: i'll be the first to say weed messes kids up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18710 @ 0.00036532 = 6.8351 BTC [+]
TheNewDeal: speaking of fresh. Yesterday was quite the day in fresh news
TheNewDeal: and I think 3 were in a matter of a few hours
TheNewDeal: I had an idea for one titled the U.S. War on Crptography, but it started looking like garbage to me. Might have to go back for a rewrite
mircea_popescu: the first 10`000 or so rewrites are always the hardest
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Instead of big sweeping pieces it is easier to start with smaller ones that lead to a big sweeping piece later. It is alwas possible to cite oneself later
TheNewDeal: Although I think I'm slightly braindamaged and forget how to find real news. Where exists real breaking news these days, outside of the propaganda machine?
jurov: if you do stuff, real news will find you
mircea_popescu: take random "event" as reported by the noisemakers, ask the people involved intelligent questions, write down their answers.
mircea_popescu: can't miss. nobody in "journalism" has asked an intelligent question since that time in 1996 that chick asked me if she may suck my cock.
jurov: lol as today, due to my stint at hard-of-hearing nonprofit (now defunct, but my phone is still listed on only non-derpy slovak website related to hearing disability)
jurov: i got a call from immigration police
jurov: "we have sme deaf ukrainians here, we dun know wtf to do"
kakobrekla: did you tell em they are just pretending
jurov: heh i had to explain them twice why the sign language may be different here and there, their manner convinced me they are genuine cops
jurov: oh. never occurred to me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20563 @ 0.00036532 = 7.5121 BTC [+]
jurov: but i meant that as illustration for TheNewDeal that if you get involved, things happen. soe are ordinary, like this, some are newsworthy, like eulora
assbot: Reminder that Ellen Pao, reddit's CEO, demanded $2.7M to not appeal lost gender discrimination lawsuit, exactly the same amount her husband owes in legal fees for his Ponzi scheme case : conspiracy ... (
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BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: You want a first qntra scoop? There's reddit drama!
mircea_popescu: a large piece about what a piece of human refuse pao is, and what a huge turd everything ycombinator touches turns out, and specifically about what a failed human being altgman is and what a morally repugnant schmoe graham is for allowing the charade to continue
mircea_popescu: lest they end up believing "professional" is something other than "toilet clogged with nail polish on"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00036801 = 2.0241 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00036637 = 6.2283 BTC [-] {3}
TheNewDeal: Think I'm going to have a heater here. Might take a month or so
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26400 @ 0.00037417 = 9.8781 BTC [+]
TheNewDeal: Not indicating yours are low quality, just want to find my own niche
BingoBoingo: Well there's seriously the reddit thing if you want low hanging fruit.
ascii_field: mats, anybody remotely else: does anybody on the planet sell a logic analyzer that isn't an utter piece of shit?
ascii_field: 1) 500MHz+ 2) no winblows, on the analyzer OR pc end 3) pisses out capture to pc at channel rate
jurov: usb tv tuner not suitable?
thestringpuller: how is Voorhees operating a business in new york when he defected and moved to panama to avoid US taxes?
jurov: thestringpuller: very ethically
ascii_field: thus far i can't even find a supplier who will guarantee two out of these three
ascii_field: (#2 is not negotiable, the thing feeds into an automated system)
ascii_field pronounces curse on the lying pieces of shit who built the chinese instrument he is presently attempting to use
ascii_field: everything they make is an electronic equivalent of 'gutter oil.' EVERYTHING.
jurov: anything that takes samples at requested rates can be repurposed to logical analyzer. or, educate me.
ascii_field: jurov: needs not only an input buffer that lets you define the 'high' and 'low' voltage, but a gigantic sram buffer for the bits
ascii_field: and a very fast connection (pci, or usb3 at the minimal) to pc
ascii_field: otherwise you only get fraction of a second 'blast'
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: we considered salae thing. vastly underpowered, and (last checked) requires use of their app
mircea_popescu: i don't really recall how that was left. hazy memory at best.
jurov: that yes... if you insist on capturing long sequences at >500MHz at such constraints... God help you.
ascii_field: jurov: i'd be satisfied if the boxes which claimed 100, actually did anything near.
jurov: what if you buy 100 of these dongles and instruct them to fire sequentially?
ascii_field: jurov: that is PRECISELY why the chinese unit sucks
mircea_popescu: the phases will never line up for stuff to do with planck's constant
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: more elementarily, for stuff to do with chineseness
ascii_field: we are working well below ultimate physical limits here
mats: ascii_field: for generic high speed stuff, get a Rigol oscope and write your own tools?
mircea_popescu: i am pretty sure you won't find a unit with 8 gb ddram which reads at 500mhz and stores 16 seconds for you.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field how about connecting it straight to the cpu ?
ascii_field: input would have to be processed in 1 cycle
ascii_field: then you have idiocies like interrupts, dram wait states...
trinque: something keeps knocking that guy offline
mircea_popescu: but you don't really care WHICH seconds you capture, as long as you capture some ?
mircea_popescu: just write a driver for it as if it were i dunno, an ethernet
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ascii_field: again, there can be no variation in the latency of the capture
ascii_field: the reason i even tell this story is that i sorta realized that logic analyzers don't actually exist
ascii_field: and that the instruments sold under this label are apparently a cheap fraud
jurov: trinque this is wiki material
trinque: jurov: that's for mod6 who is writing up something more fleshed out
jurov: still nice to have, ask kakobrekla for acct
ascii_field: looked at how logic analyzer is typically built, and was immediately struck by the idiocy of it using synchronous logic
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ascii_field: i fail to see any reason why it isn't instead a series of registers clocked asynchronously by the inputs, causing a single time-stamp reg to be shifted out the arse end upon any transition
ascii_field: yes, engineers say 'we hate clock domain transitions.' well, motherfuckers can dig for uranium in butugychag until they learn to ~like~
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ascii_field was expecting a '#26: if you can answer all of these, your life is a waste. eat your Luger.'
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trinque: that time I clicked a shinohai link in public
shinohai: If I could figure out how to marry my love of porn to btc I might make something
jurov: shinohai perhaps you can make 3d models for eulora?
mircea_popescu: btw, anyone has noticed yet the girls have no underwear and if you fiddle the camera there's an anus shot ?
ascii_field: ^ not to be confused with the -last- time this happened
trinque: what the fuck, blockchain was/is using somebody else's API for "random" data?
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the world works trinque m'boy.
ascii_field: again, not to be confused with the time they used defective rng on android proper
mircea_popescu: yet blockchain.org is different from daybitrade.com because... oh right, because meni rosenfeld doesn't own the wsj. that's all.
mircea_popescu: jurov next you run into me in game remind me to give you a coin for teh pervshot lol
trinque: dude this is rank bullshit
trinque: there's no way they were feeding the
http status code into their thing as the random dada
trinque: who knows, criminal either way
trinque: I find it hard to believe that these guys were doing
http by opening a socket if they're lazy and stupid enough to use random.org
trinque: can't think of a
http lib that doesn't give you the
http request already parsed and parceled
jurov: wonder why no one is using phone camera as source of randomness. you can't recreate the shot no matter how you try
☟︎ BingoBoingo: especially if phone camera picture is taken in memory palace
trinque: jurov: pic ends up automatically uploaded to g+/fb/whatever
trinque: derpy user cries that the world is hard and where's his mother
jurov: no, barcode readers can use camera without pic being uploaded wherever
BingoBoingo: Seriously though what was that question yesterday about memory palace standing. A quality memory palace's geometry should be so readily describable.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: It should really be a stretch to say memory palace's configuration has geometry.
BingoBoingo: In twatter news Costolo is out, Dorsey is back in
BingoBoingo: Can't make it easy to have the entire memory palace plucked out of the brian in one go
jurov: wait and how it depends on gemetry?
BingoBoingo: jurov: Simple geometries are easy to read, this is why the weak and vulnerable make headgear out of tinfoil. To truly build a quality memory palace which resists attack one must channel their inner dank and vexual
BingoBoingo: Dorsey was one of the founders who also did the Derpy Square thing
jurov: you mean by reading brainwaves?
trinque: >channel their inner dank and vexual
kakobrekla: even i dont get that and i have been here the longest
BingoBoingo: Before accessible crypto people kept their secrets by hiding them.
BingoBoingo: Of course this could just be yesterday's vodka I was too sleep to drink them talking
mircea_popescu recalls some schmuck used a "supersecret" klingon poem or somesuch
☟︎ mircea_popescu: because totally, nobody else read the same pulp he did.
BingoBoingo: The last thing a memory palace should resemble is literature of language
BingoBoingo: trinque: Because the first and second times were not enough
trinque: BingoBoingo: we'll unite the middle east (against us) yet
BingoBoingo: I dunno, if hitler couldn't unite all of Isaac's brothers I doubt Obola can unite all of Esau's