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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60508 @ 0.00051431 = 31.1199 BTC [-]
whaack: I'm working on installing the eulora client on mac, and I have two questions
whaack: (1) When you unzip the tar you get a directory with Eulora, data-cs, and a readme. Do you want people installing the game to remove the data-cs and readme and rename the "Eulora" directory to eulora-src?
whaack: If not, it seems that every instruction on the wiki should be .../eulora-src/Eulora/... instead of /eulora-src/
whaack: (2) The last instruction says to run ./configure inside of eulora-src, but there is no configure file
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32600 @ 0.00052319 = 17.056 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo the min fee thing isn't, as far as i can tell, in therealbitcoin. interested in writing a patch ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: I'm not sure I am good enough at create new code. I might dig and mail code I pull from turdmeister's 0.7.3 version for this and getpeerinfo, unsure if I can put together something that *works*
williamdunne: jurov: Any plans to get Eurola on steam?
asciilifeform: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.h#0527
assbot: Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/main.h ... ( http://bit.ly/1INoy6R )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo ^ what we have
mircea_popescu: whaack the mac instructyions may be a little stale
mircea_popescu: give a look at the nix stuff maybe it clarifies ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41108 @ 0.0005126 = 21.072 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: GetMinFee figures in AcceptToMemoryPool and CreateNewBlock
asciilifeform: just as one might expect.
BingoBoingo: Ah
asciilifeform: and in CreateTransaction
asciilifeform: the way i see it, what to relay is really a personal choice for node operator
asciilifeform: last i saw, the 'spammer' was sending 'old coins' though
asciilifeform: presently i'm not certain why i should give a fuck re: the spam
asciilifeform not a big fan of the whole 'mempool' scheme, but has said this before, it's in the logz
williamdunne has nearly got Eurola running, interface reminds me of a game I worked on once upon a time
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Would y'mind setting me up with an account?
mircea_popescu: nope
mircea_popescu: onesec
williamdunne: God, now I'm having flashbacks to working with scaleform and Adobe Flash
mircea_popescu: lol no flahs here
whaack: mircea_popescu: yeah it seems there was an instruction that was missing that was in the other sections, I've updated the wiki
mircea_popescu: tyvm.
mircea_popescu: usually how these things go
mircea_popescu: you want an acct too ?
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Well, IIRC it wasn't flash directly, but for some retarded reason they thought it'd be a good idea to reverse engineer the flash format so you'd do some coding and the design in adobe flash
williamdunne: So the process was create frames in Photoshop, import to flash, add some actioncrap, and then export to scaleform
williamdunne: Which 50% of the time wouldn't work
mircea_popescu: williamdunne http://dpaste.com/3EYNJJP
assbot: dpaste: 3EYNJJP ... ( http://bit.ly/1INrgt8 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54042 @ 0.00051194 = 27.6663 BTC [-] {2}
whaack: mircea_popescu: yes please, but I'm still working on getting the client running
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48158 @ 0.00050997 = 24.5591 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: aite
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Thanks, seems to be working so far
mircea_popescu: o hey
mircea_popescu: ima be in there in a few mins get you started :)
williamdunne: Awesome
mircea_popescu: whaack http://dpaste.com/3KT2S67
assbot: dpaste: 3KT2S67 ... ( http://bit.ly/1INrSio )
BingoBoingo: Ah, the minrelaytxfee flag I thought I was using was doing nothing, because it apparently didn't exist until 0.9
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29000 @ 0.000534 = 15.486 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00053839 = 1.9382 BTC [+]
shinohai: !up SuchWow
SuchWow: is there a litecoin-assets yet lol
shinohai: ren't you a dogecoiner SuchWow ?
ben_vulpes: SuchWow: what's litecoin?
shinohai: kek
ben_vulpes: 271609
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> i want every token << you probably want the serialization insanity as well
BingoBoingo: Ah, the pull request that created the -minrelaytxfee flag https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/2577/files
assbot: Treat dust outputs as non-standard, un-hardcode TX_FEE constants by gavinandresen · Pull Request #2577 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1INtRTZ )
ben_vulpes: anyways with all this froofraw it'd be nice to have a mining pool that ran 0.5.3
SuchWow: shinohai: dogecoin is just what got me into crypo in dec 2013, i then daytraded btc/usc (and occasionally alts, plus a small mining venture) from Jan-July '13, and have been back to just working a day job for the last year or so
SuchWow: i still find it fun and useful to keep a close eye on cryptos daily
SuchWow: that 'future' gonna be here quicker than we know it :)
ben_vulpes: > fun
ben_vulpes: nothing is fun
ben_vulpes: arbeith macht frei
SuchWow: o/
SuchWow: ;p
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> As far as I can tell time does not exist other than as a projection perpetrated by the brain << hear hear
ben_vulpes: but it's not so much the brain as the necessity of linearization of memory for things that travel along a 3-brane
ben_vulpes: (that itself is drifting steadily along another axis)
ben_vulpes: too heady for you, SuchWow?
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> pogo cannot see the sun! << i hazard that pogo is not the thing
ben_vulpes: but the people setting pogos up is the thing
ben_vulpes: the difference between "fire and forget"
ben_vulpes: and giving some random noobs the opportunity to play bitcoinrpb
ben_vulpes: bitcoingrpg*
ben_vulpes: see there's eulora for the gamers
ben_vulpes: qntra for the writers
ben_vulpes: and the real bitcoin for the hackers
SuchWow: sry, super sleep dep, 14 hour workdays, being engaged on multiple chans
SuchWow: reading
ben_vulpes: it's okay suchwaoender, i'm approximately 1.8lol behind
SuchWow: we need lolyears
ben_vulpes: 1.8klol*
ben_vulpes: a lol is a "line of log", SuchWow.
SuchWow: whereas the speed of lol is somehow inversely proportional to the speed of gossip on the interent or some such
SuchWow: or that would work to
ben_vulpes: gossip is already a reserved term, sorry.
SuchWow: *too
SuchWow: yeah, no, i'm seriously too wasted (exhausted) to have much intelligent discourse. Thanks for the up tho, next time :)
ben_vulpes: SuchWow: get a fucking key.
ben_vulpes: fucking register.
ben_vulpes: shinohai: you up him again...
ben_vulpes: I KEEL U
SuchWow: this is irc lol
SuchWow: i will not register with anything for the ability to speak in an irc chan
SuchWow: it's just ludicrous imo
SuchWow: exercise basic chan mgmt :)
SuchWow: i opped #dogecoin for 18 months
SuchWow: it *can* be done lol
shinohai: ludicrous how? to verify your identity securely?
SuchWow: i regged with nickserv
SuchWow: that's plenty
shinohai dogecoin is a scam
SuchWow: i haven't paid attention to dogecoin in the longest time
BingoBoingo: Wow, init.cpp got bloated between 0.5.3 and 0.9
shinohai: http://bit.ly/1glId2X
assbot: Why Dogecoin is a scam, why the people pushing it are assholes, why Business Insider is a contemptible piece of shit, why anyone who ever worked for it will be dancing in the street for nickels and why Kevin Rose is a fuckwit. Plus other considerations. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1INvd14 )
BingoBoingo: More than doubled in size
SuchWow: i think dogecoin is mainly just investor speculation at this point, and obviously several very large investors from early on and probably throughout
SuchWow: the community has shrunk almost as exponentially as it grew over the last year
SuchWow: but i don't think this chan is about that kind of stuff?
SuchWow: everytime i talk here, you all start bring up dogecoin - for the record, it has never once been me.
shinohai: > but i don't think this chan is about that kind of stuff?
shinohai: anywho ben_vulpes did u say i no can give cheezburger to SuchWow ?
SuchWow: he's just fuckin around cuz he wants me to register with your bot or something
SuchWow: it's cool lol
SuchWow: at least i don't bitch about being upped anymore :)
williamdunne: Oh god, Eurola has got me looking over some of the work I had done previously. Not all of em' are good uns'
mats: so, interestingly, one 'Vitaliy Toropov' appears to be a current employee of ZDI (as of 29Apr2015) and... appears to have sold exploits to HT
mats: hue hue hue
mats: er, as of that date, afaik
shinohai: not my bot ftr
mats: https://wikileaks.org/hackingteam/emails/emailid/48098
assbot: WikiLeaks - The Hackingteam Archives ... ( http://bit.ly/1INwIfG )
mats: actually, strike that, having difficulty confirming whether he's actually an employee
shinohai: arch is kinda neat
mircea_popescu: SuchWow investor may not mean what you think it means.
BingoBoingo actually trying to put this knob together. ;;;;
mircea_popescu: it's not directly equivalent to "spent money".
shinohai: Erik Voorhees to the rescue again http://coinivore.com/2015/07/09/litecoin-exchange-volume-outpaces-bitcoin-for-first-time/
assbot: Litecoin Exchange Volume Outpaces Bitcoin For First Time - Coinivore ... ( http://bit.ly/1GaOHWU )
mod6: So I was stuck on block: 363734, then updated time, restarted bitcoind, now seem be be stuck on 363736 for >24 hours.
asciilifeform: mod6: who are you peered with ?
mod6: mp
asciilifeform: he's wedged iirc !
asciilifeform: stop peering with him until he unwedges
asciilifeform: betcha his clock is off too.
mod6: ok, i had thought that I read somewhere that he said he was gonna let it be until he could examine the fork closer. I never could find it in the log though. Thought maybe I imagined it.
asciilifeform: he did
asciilifeform: and apparently letting it be didn't unwedge it
mod6: ah.
asciilifeform: dollars to doughnuts his clock is off.
asciilifeform: like mine was.
mod6: mine was 25 seconds behind or something.
asciilifeform: that's not enough to wedge
mod6: hrm. maybe im misinterpreted the output
mod6: anyway, it might not be a bad time for me to stop it now anyway, and break off to try some other things. I wanna test build stator on gentoo.
asciilifeform: its natural habitat!
asciilifeform: test, test.
mod6: I see that nubs' gentoo sanity patch isn't applied, wanna get some testing in there. I'm putting a guide together so someone can patch by hand if they like.
asciilifeform: i never needed that one
asciilifeform: to run on my gentoos
asciilifeform: so i never applied it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40332 @ 0.00053839 = 21.7143 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: though i think one or two things in it are in my kills_integer_retardation patch
mod6: ok, good to know. i'll give it a shot on my end. will report back sometime next day or so.
mod6: yah. and that is included.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43576 @ 0.00053862 = 23.4709 BTC [+]
mod6: in particular, this test will be with vanilla gcc (glibc) and not uclibc. With uclibc, I had to do some extra tweaks: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-06-2015#1160161 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-06-2015 02:57:07; mod6: no, those where in there from the beginning. i ended up adding ``#define __STDC_LIMIT_MACROS'' with ``#include <stdint.h>'' to net.cpp, util.cpp and wallet.cpp and then is ok.
asciilifeform: i thought nobody got anywhere with uclibc ... ?
mod6: well, no, never did link for me properly
asciilifeform: anyone try musl yet ?
mod6: but these problems arose during compiliation. and once the above was applied, was seemingly resolved.
williamdunne: https://github.com/hackedteam/rcs-common/blob/master/lib/rcs-common/evidence/file.rb#L17
assbot: rcs-common/file.rb at master · hackedteam/rcs-common · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1GaQg7x )
mod6: haven't tried musl yet no.
mod6: it's on the list.
mod6: heh, it's a long list. :]
asciilifeform: williamdunne: l0l!
mod6: i'll get there though.
williamdunne: asciilifeform: Wonder how many times it was used
williamdunne: Looks like that feature was created at the request of the Italian gov mabbeh
mod6: williamdunne: did you get setup in euloraland?
williamdunne: mod6: Ish, I did all the beginner stuff, and then died
mircea_popescu: mined anything ?
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: No, dieded. Then had some marketing work I figured I ought to be doing
williamdunne: To be continued
mircea_popescu: mod6 it won't go past that for a while.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is your node still wedged ?
mircea_popescu: im sure it is.
asciilifeform: and clock ?
mircea_popescu: hm
asciilifeform: make sure to compare epoch clock
asciilifeform: not calendar
mircea_popescu: $date
mircea_popescu: Thu Jul 9 22:30:43 EDT 2015
mod6: hi mircea_popescu! ok thanks. ima shut it down for now. although, im gonna sync against it with obsd here in the next few days.. different env.
BingoBoingo nearing -minrelaytxfee recipe
mircea_popescu: $hwclock
mircea_popescu: Thu 09 Jul 2015 10:30:49 PM EDT -0.727640 seconds
mircea_popescu: better ?
asciilifeform: date +%s
asciilifeform: ^^^^^^^
mircea_popescu: 1436495557
mod6: 1436495564
asciilifeform: hm matches mine within a few s
mod6: yea
asciilifeform: and still at original wedgepoint ?
mircea_popescu: well yes.
asciilifeform: peer count ?
mircea_popescu: netstat -ao | grep "8333" | wc -l
mircea_popescu: 55
asciilifeform: does mircea_popescucoind keep logs ?
mircea_popescu: sure.
asciilifeform: anything re: rejected blocks in those
mircea_popescu: nah just spam txn rejected.
asciilifeform: that'd be most peculiar
asciilifeform: it would mean, if there is nothing peculiarly tight-lipped about mircea_popescucoind's logging mechanism, that no one has so much as tried throwing the recent blocks at it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so was the xemist guy nobody voiced actually al ?
asciilifeform: waitasec
asciilifeform: when was that
asciilifeform: fuck
mircea_popescu: heh. paymoar attention
asciilifeform scrolls
asciilifeform was... elsewhere
mircea_popescu: anyway, i shall be off playin
mircea_popescu: laters!
asciilifeform: come back, Xemist
asciilifeform: damn.
asciilifeform sent him a mail with link to this logtime..
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> !up Xemist
mod6: he came here, was here for 5 minutes, was up'd while here, never said anything.
asciilifeform: hm
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> Xemist you wouldn't be al would you ?
mod6: no response to that either.
asciilifeform: mod6: netsplit ??
asciilifeform: i don't see this up
asciilifeform: or the convo
asciilifeform: OR he got ddosed
mod6: lemme check for split, and i'll paste the log.
asciilifeform: which is still a thing
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu when do we get the ddoser's head on a stick?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mod6: i don't see any splits in my log, but here's the log from b-a: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1195623 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 21:25:25; mircea_popescu: !up Xemist
asciilifeform: it isn't in my log!
asciilifeform: or in log.bitcoin-assets.com ! ☟︎
asciilifeform: go, see
mod6: i can paste mine if that helps, but connect/disconnect msgs included
asciilifeform: i believe
asciilifeform: but ipso facto netsplit
mod6: check the log link I just posted above.
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asciilifeform: mod6: apologies, i had the 10-7 page up
asciilifeform: yes, it's in there.
asciilifeform: gonna guess he got ddosed.
mod6: ah, ok. he came in from webchat, looks like to me.
asciilifeform: aha, iirc danielpbarron invited him to.
mod6: ah
asciilifeform: !up Vexual
asciilifeform: for completeness, i will also mention the possibility that we (or what al can see of us in his light-cone) didn't pass his bozo filter.
BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/3V1972C.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1dPsXcE )
BingoBoingo: ^ recipe for adding flag to stator
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: methinks you left something out ?
asciilifeform: grep -i nMinRelayTxFee * | wc -l
asciilifeform: 0
BingoBoingo: Ah, wrong version
asciilifeform: what version was the patch for ?
BingoBoingo: stator. I mean wrong version of the revision, lemme pull up init.cpp and fix this
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: no reason to hurry
mod6: true. and perhaps use unified diff
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i normally post patches after i read five times or so, and test them (to the point where 150,000+ blocks are pulled)
BingoBoingo: no idea what unified diff means
BingoBoingo: By yes, playing with this one first.
asciilifeform: there's a handy page on therealbitcoin.org
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2014-December/000022.html
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1dPtbjZ )
mod6: asciilifeform is quicker on the draw than me tonight.
asciilifeform: congrats to BingoBoingo though, for taking the gloves off and going at the patch game
mod6: i just had that in hand.
mod6: yeah, thasnks BingoBoingo
mod6: anyway, that link is a bit old as it describes the directories as: bitcoin-bitcoin-a8def6b
mod6: but you'll get the general idea.
mod6: ask in here if you get stuck, but again, no rush.
BingoBoingo: Actual changes http://dpaste.com/1Y0MG37 will look at actually submitting after more reading and testing and learning process
assbot: dpaste: 1Y0MG37 ... ( http://bit.ly/1dPthIi )
BingoBoingo: Surprised how little change this seems to take vs. 0.9 Bitcoin CORE implementation of flag
asciilifeform: wai didja just return printf("... ?
BingoBoingo: I know nothing better to do
asciilifeform: a few other nitpicks. the all-caps convention in bitcoind refers to constants
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: printf happens to return 1 (true) if it succeeded in printf-ing
asciilifeform: so you'd want to printf and then return false
asciilifeform: this is not seriously important in this case, but it follows 'unix philosophy' in the sense that a proggy returning false lets you use its failure as part of a shell script
asciilifeform: that's pretty much it.
asciilifeform: not a bad start BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: this patch is gonna be a first-class bitch to actually test though..
asciilifeform: really gotta write a proper node monitor
asciilifeform: (tx incoming, tx relayed, blocks...)
asciilifeform: ('incoming' in the network may-or-may-not-relay sense, rather than coins sense)
asciilifeform: oughta be able to watch the 'vital signs' of a node, if one wishes
asciilifeform: see forks with own eyes, pop open a block and scroll the tx, etc.
asciilifeform: anybody here likes programming for x11 ?
asciilifeform listens to the sound of silence
asciilifeform: ~another~ interesting scientific instrument would be a fly trap for invalid tx ☟︎
asciilifeform: which would collect, in a zoo
asciilifeform: who is sending what kind of retarded tx, and why?
asciilifeform: how often - bad sig
asciilifeform: and how often is the latter a plausible result of bitrot
asciilifeform: how often is bad tx resulting from the use of some peculiar 'hearnia' ? (on my node - apparently, quite often)
BingoBoingo: So ever so slightly less shitty revision? http://dpaste.com/0SBAYB4
assbot: dpaste: 0SBAYB4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1HRlVQS )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the return never happens
mod6: <+asciilifeform> see forks with own eyes, pop open a block and scroll the tx, etc. << ncurses instead of x11?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: c n00b mistake. need else { ... ... }
asciilifeform: mod6: gonna be ugly
asciilifeform: mod6: could try
asciilifeform: i fucking hate ncurses-mouse proggies
BingoBoingo ptolly needs to practice C
asciilifeform: and not sure if there is a simple way to weasel out of using the rodent here
mod6: fair enough. i guess if it were me, it'd be great start to just dump the block txs to a file or STDOUT or something.
asciilifeform not ui specialist
asciilifeform: mod6: phf wrote a tx dumper
mod6: me either
mod6: really?
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: see log
mod6 looks
BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/3XVTZ6H << last go at de shittening for a while
assbot: dpaste: 3XVTZ6H ... ( http://bit.ly/1dPtP0U )
asciilifeform: mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1185338 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 17:50:03; phf: i was exploring block storage format, so i wrote some lisp code to read blocks out of .dat in sequence or directly from dumpblock'ed file http://paste.lisp.org/+38JG. i'm not sure where i'm going with it, so i'm leaving it here for interested parties.
BingoBoingo: It's only been a decade since I touched C++ source with anything other than delete key
mod6: thx ascii
mod6: oh yeah, i remember now.
mod6: i know exactly jack & squat about lisp
mod6: i'll have to give this a try sometime.
mod6: well, i guess i kinda got my toe wet with Nock.
mod6: anyway, another thing for the list :]
decimation: re: pci ocxo < yeah the ocxo is the metal case in the lower left
decimation: and yeah that cesium standard is cheap - suspiciously so. cesium only lasts so long.
asciilifeform: decimation: tube's good for ~decade
asciilifeform: decimation: that can looks like a normal quartz resonator
williamdunne: ..... this is a thing:
williamdunne: https://github.com/trevorlinton/webkit.js/tree/master
assbot: trevorlinton/webkit.js · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1dPuKhX )
asciilifeform: wai wat
asciilifeform: or rather, why??!!!
trinque: because his github picture is professionally shot
trinque: yet he wore a hoodie
trinque: but also a jacket, y'see
asciilifeform doesn't see a picture
trinque: https://avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/3111873?v=3&s=400
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0y4nA )
decimation: nah ocxo often looks like a can
decimation: but admittedly I can't say for sure, and they do have versions of the card with tcxo
asciilifeform: http://www.eevblog.com/2012/01/14/eevblog-236-fe-5680a-rubidium-standard-teardown << interesting
assbot: EEVblog #236 - FE-5680A Rubidium Standard Teardown | EEVblog - The Electronics Engineering Video Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0yiLs )
decimation: http://www.mti-milliren.com/ocxo_260_ocxo.html < this ocxo is as good as rubidium in terms of thermal stability
assbot: MTI-Milliren Technologies, Inc. ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0yni0 )
decimation: and quartz typically has better phase noise than rb
decimation: but a new one will be >$500 in small qty
asciilifeform: what's the point of rb then
decimation: it does have slightly better aging
decimation: but a new rb is like $2.5k
decimation: note, these are well beyon pedestrian clocks, only for folks who 'need' less than miliseconds per year
asciilifeform always thought that a 'proper' computer oughta include a bnc jack for rb or cesiumfountain on front panel
asciilifeform: superceding the usual clock
asciilifeform: (for cpu and rtc both)
decimation: agreed
decimation: it's rediculous that doesn't exist actually
decimation: also the timing hardware available on typical x86 is usually shitty
decimation: asciilifeform: the thing that's odd is that this kind of feature isn't 'avaiable for any price'
decimation: at least on x86 servers
decimation: surely the market is nonzero ☟︎
asciilifeform: on any machine i know o
asciilifeform: f
asciilifeform: ... except for my biggest fpga board
decimation: I think I linked an sbc that folks modded for this
asciilifeform: it's got goldplated coax 'in's for clocking
asciilifeform: no less than 4 of'em
decimation: yeah that's typical for fpgas
decimation: because people use for actual hard timing specs
asciilifeform: http://www.periodictable.ru/037Rb/Rb_en.html
assbot: Rubidium ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0ANxf )
asciilifeform: http://www.mar.li/memento_mori.php << lulz
assbot: Martin Bircher - Art (www.mar.li) ... ( http://bit.ly/1dPwiZ3 )
decimation: lol
decimation: asciilifeform: you should make one and calibrate in micromorts
asciilifeform: http://pmonta.com/blog << also neat
assbot: Signal and noise | Peter Monta's projects ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0Chr7 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 131236 @ 0.00053662 = 70.4239 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-bill << lulz.
assbot: First Atomic Clock Wristwatch ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0CNWg )
asciilifeform: 'The watch keeps time to a few nanoseconds per day. The attractive display is based on 7-segment red LED technology. Batteries are included (they last about 45 minutes but are rechargeable). AC adapter included. There are no adjustments for daylight saving time; however the clock does handle leap seconds and keeps track of the [Modified Julian] date. This HP wristwatch includes 5/10 MHz and 1 PPS outputs. An internal keypad is
asciilifeform: used to set the date and time. Not waterproof nor even water resistant. '
asciilifeform: http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-tom << moar.
assbot: Climbing with Atomic Clocks ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0D9vV )
lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=3 (Paul Okkerse (Hoofd ICT) ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DAB44446629F9CF37EB64BF72BBB6471AB6817777283D5F20F162E4FD344C3C5#BE5C08DD7A277168E207BFD7F45D308B8C129DF60FF8C094E8797B8AA3E3F61C>
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JrCWjS )
lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Paul Okkerse (Hoofd ICT) ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DAB44446629F9CF37EB64BF72BBB6471AB6817777283D5F20F162E4FD344C3C5#B220922A162EB630FC0602375072D4B541230D8305458E827459A3C3828B5F84>
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LzS295 )
decimation: that's a neat project (the gps receiver)
decimation: lolz
decimation: his 'wristwatch' still relies on wwvb
decimation: oh wait, no it's cesium
decimation: lol
decimation: Are these more pirate partai types
asciilifeform: devil knows
decimation: oh he was on mircea's list already
asciilifeform: that list oughta contain ~all~ the 4294967297 folk (see old log as to why)
decimation: okay makes sense
decimation: http://rondomvoetbal.nl/jonathan-steelt-punt-van-valleivogels/ apparently there's a paul okkerse who plays soccer
assbot: Jonathan steelt punt van Valleivogels | Rondom Voetbal ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0DQpe )
asciilifeform: the 'leapsecond' blog is a goldmine
asciilifeform: 'The talk concludes with a first-hand description of Project GREAT, perhaps the ultimate DIY clock experiment. Van Baak methodically selected three of his best portable cesium clocks, outfitted the family minivan (with his wife's permission) as a traveling time laboratory, and drove with his three children up the highest mountain in Washington State. After staying on Mt. Rainier for a long weekend they returned home to compare
asciilifeform: the traveling clocks against several atomic clocks left at home. Measurements confirmed that the clocks returned 22 nanoseconds ahead in time. ' << try sr at home!
decimation: lol
decimation: that's alot of cash to invest in 'diy'
asciilifeform: the fella collects, builds, clocks
decimation: !up Vexual
asciilifeform: http://www.leapsecond.com/images/LabJan2001r.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0Ex1N )
decimation: " A 5071A uses about 50 W at 24 VDC (~2 A)." damn that's alot of battery power
Vexual: BingoBoingo, hows that red/green watch running?
decimation: wow that's probably at least $500k in equipment
decimation: he must have a 'golden toilet' job
asciilifeform: ... or retired and he cut a zero or three of the price tags by repairing with own hands
decimation: heh yeah possibly
decimation: I bet he runs an ntp server
asciilifeform: http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/saoff << when clinton ordered gps to be made useful to public
assbot: Effect of no SA on HP 58503A GPS Time & Frequency Receiver ... ( http://bit.ly/1L0FeYI )
decimation: the stability and accuracy of modern clocks actually enables a great deal of science and engineering
decimation: interesting selective availability messed with time stability by a factor of 3
Vexual: shit bb finds c++, suddenly both wrists show the same time, so is alfs predator time
asciilifeform: clinton's announcement was a little disingenuous - the random noise is gone, yes, and the recent sats don't have it - however they do have option of beam-forming and denying gps to geography of hitler's choice
asciilifeform: (if anyone remembers the old eu/galileo thread, where usg pissed and moaned about not being given root on galileo)
asciilifeform: 'give us root or we'll shoot' was the actual statement
decimation: heh
decimation: and then there's glosnas
asciilifeform: one interesting aspect of the 'selective availability' era was that folks would actually collect the crud and broadcast... corrections! from an accurately-surveyed point
asciilifeform: neatly cancelling out the fuzz
asciilifeform: there was a whole industry, almost, devoted to this.
asciilifeform: galileo was also in planning at the time (ru 'glonas' was in a serious state of decay and not relevant) and one legend goes that clinton's order was a failed gambit to sink it ☟︎
decimation: that tom von baak character is a regular on time-nuts http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.time.nuts
assbot: Gmane -- Mail To News And Back Again ... ( http://bit.ly/1JY9l1G )
decimation: surely the ru generals saw the writing on the wall
asciilifeform: decimation: there was no money
decimation: also, that kind of 'correction' is now broadcast from satellite today: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_Area_Augmentation_System
assbot: Wide Area Augmentation System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1JY9pyq )
decimation: ^ attempts to correct for the ionoshere messing with the gps frequency band as it goes through
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71400 @ 0.00053863 = 38.4582 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: so that gps users can approach 1m accuracy with simple equipment
decimation: "Aircraft conducting WAAS approaches must possess certified GPS receivers, which are much more expensive than non-certified units. In 2006, Garmin's least expensive certified receiver, the GNS 430W, had a suggested retail price of US$10,750.[27]"
decimation: aircraft are very effective at bleeding rich folk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29540 @ 0.00052766 = 15.5871 BTC [-]
Vexual: only if you admit
decimation: admit to owning one?
Vexual: yeah
Vexual: some bitch will always go back for her shoes
decimation: I wish; I view blowing a few $k on computers and electronics to be a big expense
decimation: yet along paying $10k for something that can be had for $200 or less
asciilifeform: other thing re: gps is that there is ~still~ an encrypted band (as of a few yrs ago, ~two~ separate ones)
Vexual: wait wot?
asciilifeform: idea being that hitler can order the public band jammed, when he wants.
Vexual: oh, yes
decimation: yeah I think there are still two encrypted signals
Vexual: still look for mountains
decimation: hitler would only do this (in a civilized place) at the cost of massive disruption to many things
decimation: to the point where it's probably almost unthinkable unless under threat of immediate attack
Vexual: it happens a lot
Vexual: for sport as ascii said
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10013 @ 0.00052766 = 5.2835 BTC [-]
decimation: !up Vexual
decimation: Vexual: it would be a big deal if civilian gps service were degraded
Vexual: no
asciilifeform: anybody's guess whether gps will decay from sat attrition (as glonas did in the 'roarin' 90s' ru) before usa implodes, civilian aviation on its territory Officially ends, and public freebie is turned off
decimation: ^ yeah that's honestly a bigger threat
asciilifeform: sorta one of the places i was going with ntp.
decimation: usg can no longer employ/manage to keep the thing running
asciilifeform: can't/won't/forgot
decimation: http://gpsworld.com/next-gen-gps-ground-control-system-in-question/ "A March 2013 report from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) seems to claim that the projected cost of the next-generation GPS ground-control system, known as OCX, increased by 43 percent, or $1 billion over the past year, to a total cost estimate of $3.7 billion."
assbot: GPS OCX Ground Control in GAO Report : GPS World ... ( http://bit.ly/1JYaCpm )
asciilifeform: if cheap autonomous flying machines haven't reignited usg interest in geographically-selected gps jamming, nothing will
asciilifeform: i suspect the equipment, protocol, the inescapable 3-ring binders, are all in place.
Vexual: hey you're getting cheap clocks
decimation: http://www.insidegnss.com/node/3054 "“We'll be ready to launch the first GPS III in 2015, but it now appears the next generation GPS Operational Control System, or OCX, won't be ready for about a year or two after that,” General William L. Shelton, commander of Air Force Space Command told attendees at the 28th Annual National Space Symposium. "
assbot: First GPS III Launch Delayed by Up to a Year, OCX by Two Years | Inside GNSS ... ( http://bit.ly/1JYaI0q )
decimation: asciilifeform: sure, but it takes balls to pull the trigger
asciilifeform: why?
decimation: http://spacenews.com/launch-of-first-gps-3-satellite-now-not-expected-until-2017/
assbot: Launch of First GPS 3 Satellite Now Not Expected Until 2017 ... ( http://bit.ly/1JYaMNG )
decimation: if over a civilized area there are going to be lots of innocent bystanders
asciilifeform: that particular trigger is pulled every time fuhrer rolls by in his fuhrermobile
asciilifeform: i sometimes drive around with gps display, and more than once found myself in africa
decimation: it would be interesting to know if they actually jam gps
asciilifeform: or an ocean
asciilifeform: they do.
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cxr1-b6Xkc
decimation: that's a big deal, especially with all the aircraft around wash dc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16337 @ 0.0005292 = 8.6455 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: aircraft in usa are not permitted to rely solely on gps!
decimation: no, but still
Vexual: don't be messing with the 55 track!
asciilifeform: http://www.quora.com/What-would-be-the-consequences-of-reinstating-GPS-selective-availability
assbot: What would be the consequences of reinstating GPS selective availability? - Quora ... ( http://bit.ly/1JYaTsC )
decimation: not for precision approach in heavy weather anyway
asciilifeform: ^ as described here
decimation: there's a huge difference between selective availablity and turning off service
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63182 @ 0.00051183 = 32.3384 BTC [-] {4}
decimation: I suppose now is the time to buy your H-maser
decimation: instead of when gps is kaput
asciilifeform: i personally don't expect to outlive gps by an especially long time.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18790 @ 0.00050776 = 9.5408 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: its kaput in any sector every day
Vexual: you can't tell coz its under 2 hours
decimation to bed, to dream of all the lion's mouths into which his head is voluntarily stuck
asciilifeform also off to bed
Vexual: suchvolcano
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37648 @ 0.00050707 = 19.0902 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwRl1eQXsbs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7129 @ 0.00050505 = 3.6005 BTC [-]
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUmpGFcdFyE
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49533 @ 0.00050097 = 24.8145 BTC [-] {4}
trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/09/us-japan-nato-missile-exclusive-idUSKCN0PJ2RV20150709
assbot: Exclusive: Japan interested in joining NATO missile consortium| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1Scte70 )
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/1DxCMWo.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HRBN5H )
punkman: trinque: this python-gnupg is a motherfucking piece of shit << which one are you using?
trinque: https://pythonhosted.org/python-gnupg/ << newest of this
assbot: python-gnupg - A Python wrapper for GnuPG — Python Wrapper for GnuPG v0.3.7 documentation ... ( http://bit.ly/1HREcxs )
punkman: you want this one https://github.com/isislovecruft/python-gnupg
assbot: isislovecruft/python-gnupg · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1HREh46 )
punkman: asciilifeform: iirc 2 chokes on just about anything other than straight ascii << I rarely have problems with that
trinque: punkman: cool, I'll try that out
punkman: there's also python-gpgme that skips the "pipe to shell" retardation
punkman: though nobody uses gpgme so I'm wary
punkman: (here it is https://launchpad.net/pygpgme )
assbot: PyGPGME in Launchpad ... ( http://bit.ly/1ScxuDE )
mircea_popescu: shinohai so never got an email huh ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hm ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196167 << kinda weird. i have it in my log, but it's not on website log. did assbot get split or something ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 02:44:42; asciilifeform: or in log.bitcoin-assets.com !
mircea_popescu: heh i also had the wrong one up. nm
punkman: Al walked in when the doge was derping, unfortunate
punkman: (no ddos, he closed the page both times)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196225 << yes. and published. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 03:14:47; asciilifeform: ~another~ interesting scientific instrument would be a fly trap for invalid tx
mircea_popescu: punkman the time intervals don't at all match a ddos. that's usually a 5 minute stay.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48138 @ 0.00049707 = 23.928 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196295 << i dunno man... fatties destroying scales and you expect lazy aspies to wanna buy clocks ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 03:55:37; decimation: surely the market is nonzero
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4422 @ 0.00049706 = 2.198 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196364 << only failed because the euros decided to waste moar moneyz ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 04:44:37; asciilifeform: galileo was also in planning at the time (ru 'glonas' was in a serious state of decay and not relevant) and one legend goes that clinton's order was a failed gambit to sink it
punkman: "Gogglebox is a British observational documentary which has aired on Channel 4 since 7 March 2013. The show features recurring couples, families and friends from across the United Kingdom sitting in their living rooms watching weekly British television shows."
punkman: such meta
fluffypony: I read that as Googlebox
mircea_popescu: "observational documentary" ? wtf, new words = no content.
punkman: apparently it's been copied by US, AU, Canada, Italy, Poland, Slovenia, Israel and Germany.
mircea_popescu: sure, cheap format.
mircea_popescu: i was walking through town today, and tons of advertising for... ANT MAN.
mircea_popescu: which is yet another "dude in scooba gear" "movie".
mircea_popescu: question : why all these masked "hero" bullshits ?
punkman: hah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34024 @ 0.00049706 = 16.912 BTC [-]
punkman: kabuki of "super heroes"
mircea_popescu: answer : they really dun wanna pour all that money into AN ACTOR's own capital good.
mircea_popescu: wear the fucking mask.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how the screen guild stands for it, but... it does.
mircea_popescu: an' in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/30db452b7a40c2ae6fe3ce321f95d89d/tumblr_na11k1mBSA1tv6w3wo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVvv6O )
punkman: cute
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> answer : they really dun wanna pour all that money into AN ACTOR's own capital good. << This. Also they don't have to write new stories which they couldn't.
mircea_popescu: right. no more of that "seinfeld doesn't wanna do more shows so he gets a bn dollars and then decides when to end the series"
mircea_popescu: mask.
punkman: but they don't wear the mask during the whole movie
punkman: usually have long sequences of unmasked derpy "clark"
BingoBoingo: Well with the superhero movies now it the standard seems to be signing the actors to 7-10 movie long contracts.
mircea_popescu: !up heh too slow.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell xemist you know this is irc not a forum. you gotta stick around for anything to work.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo options, not pop.
BingoBoingo: sure
punkman: interesting https://github.com/gigablast/open-source-search-engine
assbot: gigablast/open-source-search-engine · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1HjDHdW )
mircea_popescu: lots of these neh ?
BingoBoingo: So stator with experimental minrelaytxfee option patch was syncing well as a drop in replacement for previous stator on testbed then laptop became unplugged and battery dead. Restarted with -rescan because BDB hates stopping suddenly and the blockindex is screwed.
punkman: mircea_popescu: not really
BingoBoingo: Other than the hardware/filesystem hiccup seems to work so far.
mircea_popescu: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/131813/postmortem_irrational_games_.php < vaguely interesting.
assbot: Gamasutra - Postmortem: Irrational Games' System Shock 2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1HjDQhF )
mircea_popescu: from that "how start-up fails" angle, for the collector.
BingoBoingo still amazed at the difference between http://dpaste.com/3XVTZ6H and https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/2577/files seriously can't wait for that tool to measure behavior to tell if it actually works.
assbot: dpaste: 3XVTZ6H ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVxFmZ )
assbot: Treat dust outputs as non-standard, un-hardcode TX_FEE constants by gavinandresen · Pull Request #2577 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVxF6A )
scoopbot_revived: What the market is and what it isn't. http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/10/what-the-market-is-and-what-it-isnt/
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market buttfinex
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 271.31, Best ask: 271.38, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 271.4, 24 hour volume: 25826.5008129, 24 hour low: 267.81, 24 hour high: 273.0, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106500 @ 0.00050315 = 53.5855 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70450 @ 0.00049894 = 35.1503 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: http://www.gigablast.com/admin.html#features
assbot: FAQ ... ( http://bit.ly/1HRs2GJ )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57300 @ 0.00049703 = 28.4798 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up HeySteve
BingoBoingo: !up shinohai
BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli
shinohai: ty BingoBoingo
HeySteve: hi, thanks
scoopbot_revived: Transaction Fee Market Develops Amid Surge in Transaction Volume http://qntra.net/2015/07/transaction-fee-market-develops-amid-surge-in-transaction-volume/
BingoBoingo: So recovered the instance of bitcoind-stator-minrelaytxfeeconfflag to resume old stator's sync. And now I started it on a fresh one.
jurov: williamdunne: why do you ask me of all people about steam?
shinohai: I have to do another build sometime this weekend I guess
felipelalli: hi BingoBoingo! Thanks for remember. How are you?
BingoBoingo: not bad
felipelalli: not bad is bad.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: I don't have a formal patch for this, just a recipe in dpaste. Not comfortable enough to formally submit. All it is supposed to do is allow you to set the -minrelaytxfee flag in Bitcoin.conf which isn't a big deal because if you are building it you can just change the number in main.h
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: It really isn't bad at all.
shinohai: That's what i did was change main.h
shinohai: but i goofed somewhere and my static build isn't very static on the pogo.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46000 @ 0.00050099 = 23.0455 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00050562 = 12.1349 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: http://www.miningpool.co.uk/amir-taaki-backs-up-ross-ulbrichts-claim-of-leaving-silk-road-after-creating-it/
assbot: Amir Taaki Backs Up Ross Ulbricht’s Claim of Leaving Silk Road After Creating It - Mining Pool ... ( http://bit.ly/1HROMEL )
punkman: well if amir is backing it... ☟︎
punkman: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/tax/11729659/Taxman-gets-new-US-style-powers-to-raid-tens-of-thousands-of-personal-bank-accounts-to-recover-debts.html
assbot: Taxman gets new US-style powers to raid tens of thousands of personal bank accounts to recover debts - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1HROUns )
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/qiVeJ
assbot: Bitcoin price rallies sharply as robust transaction fee market develops proving the naysayers were wrong. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1HRPMbS )
BingoBoingo: Qntra bunny is now in 10th place on /r/bitcoin's front page
shinohai: \o/
shinohai: ./|\
BingoBoingo: It's been a while
shinohai: I used to have like a ton of reddit troll accounts
BingoBoingo: This one was not one of mine
BingoBoingo: Also F2Pool celebrating the TxMarket https://blockchain.info/tx/cb550c9a1c63498f7ecb7bafc6f915318f16bb54069ff6257b4e069b97b367c8?show_adv=true
shinohai: Still good for qntra
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40600 @ 0.00050654 = 20.5655 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Yeah
BingoBoingo: I stopped submitting qntra to reddit myself, because I'd rather just make reddit a more miserable place on my own without the bunny drawing aggro
shinohai: I like stirring thee pot with r/crypto too.
shinohai: I posted a qntra article there and got the most downvotes EVAH
BingoBoingo: lol
shinohai: http://redd.it/3crw7p
assbot: Is there any code left written by Satoshi? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1HRQOV9 )
BingoBoingo: I honestly prefer dropping qntra links in /buttcoin
shinohai: ^ therealbitcoin heh
shinohai: I had snapshill bot working so perfect before the blackout
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62450 @ 0.0005076 = 31.6996 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56301 @ 0.00050079 = 28.195 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17449 @ 0.0004969 = 8.6704 BTC [-]
shinohai: >>> http://cryptomatic.io/products/the-cryptomat-silver
assbot: THE CRYPTOMAT MONOCHROME SILVER LIMITED EDITION - CRYPTOMATIC ... ( http://bit.ly/1GbuiRO )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97260 @ 0.00051073 = 49.6736 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00051403 = 5.8085 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 45 @ 0.08 = 3.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109550 @ 0.00051504 = 56.4226 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 286.43, Best ask: 286.91, Bid-ask spread: 0.48000, Last trade: 286.43, 24 hour volume: 60789.47237163, 24 hour low: 267.81, 24 hour high: 292.66, 24 hour vwap: None
jurov: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00404251 / 0.0040653 / 0.00407783 (292 shares, 1.19 BTC), 7D: 0.00404251 / 0.0040951 / 0.00435631 (2398 shares, 9.82 BTC), 30D: 0.00136203 / 0.00431765 / 0.00494794 (6607 shares, 28.53 BTC)
jurov: ;;calc 1/0.00397737
gribble: 251.422422354
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27634 @ 0.00049654 = 13.7214 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58400 @ 0.00050037 = 29.2216 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88950 @ 0.00050708 = 45.1048 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2015/07/ht-email-addresses.htm
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UJI0WT )
asciilifeform: Xemist was here ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57500 @ 0.00051811 = 29.7913 BTC [+]
decimation: yes, from two different ips apparently
asciilifeform: probably looking for a proxy that works
asciilifeform: three differents, so far ☟︎
asciilifeform: has anyone recently probed for the continued existence of the ddos bot ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: because i'm pretty sure it's still here.
Adlai may have gotten whacked by it, a while back
decimation: he might have come back after the latest excitement
Adlai: while = 2-3 weeks
asciilifeform: i still don't see why kakobrekla doesn't make the chan invite-only. anyone who wants in would pm one of the folks speaking. just like voice currently works
asciilifeform: what do we need the idling remoras for ? ☟︎
Adlai: well there is something to be said for openness, although "requests will be honored by default" is still rather open
asciilifeform: what openness, when tomorrow, e.g., taleb, logs in, and gets ddosed off by a tard ☟︎
asciilifeform: who wants just to read - can read the www log
decimation: how about a policy of randomly kicking people who are remoras?
asciilifeform: decimation: i don't understand why there has to be anything random about it
asciilifeform: FUCK THEM
asciilifeform: all of them
asciilifeform: l0l
kakobrekla: you do it.
decimation: awesome
mats: what's to say someone that's voiced isn't feeding IPs for ddos
mats: ?
asciilifeform: mats: a fungus among us! (tm) (R)
asciilifeform checks back of head for parasite crab
decimation: gabriel_laddel: did you get ddos-kicked?
Adlai: mats is right.anybody doing ddos-botting is already feeding links into the channel
Adlai: if you mean lurking for ips through uncloaked hosts... the uncloaked fools should know better -_- ☟︎
decimation: well, that was kinda the conclusion last time
decimation: it was a service provided by tards
Adlai: !s fivezerotwo
assbot: 206 results for 'fivezerotwo' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fivezerotwo
Adlai: for the tards, of the tards, by the tards
decimation: but there exists a class of non-irc-savvy people who are actual people ☟︎
asciilifeform bbl, off to the uranium mines
Adlai: lies
decimation too
kakobrekla: what, dont you dare to press the button?
asciilifeform promises to press some buttons, later.
kakobrekla: k
punkman: btw, you could probably decloak everyone without even being in channel
kakobrekla: true
punkman: unless freenode patched it
Adlai: you'd have no list of 'everyone'
kakobrekla: log is enough
Adlai: log doesn't have lurkers
kakobrekla: but if you have only lurkers you dont have a chan really
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54850 @ 0.00051693 = 28.3536 BTC [-]
punkman: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-10/markets-love-the-greek-proposal
assbot: Markets Love the Greek Proposal - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1LZT1Ay )
shinohai: i lurk >.>
shinohai: Halls of the #b-a monastery
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82350 @ 0.00051941 = 42.7734 BTC [+]
Adlai: true lurkers don't even /join, what else are logs for
Naphex: lurkers gonna lurk
Naphex: don't tell me what to do ;] ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35800 @ 0.00051693 = 18.5061 BTC [-]
williamdunne: jurov: There was a thought process behind it, but not a though process to be proud of.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21450 @ 0.00050928 = 10.9241 BTC [-]
lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Matthias_Schmidt ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B3A2E526E50140EE75C270884290DB8270F202BA7E2382F7F20D735D62E0104E#CB5B4CC7349D53137B86679F668640AC8692B8D4B44C2F782602460B0B870C06>
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LzS295 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38300 @ 0.00050928 = 19.5054 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23904 @ 0.00050638 = 12.1045 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 61000 @ 0.00003009 = 1.8355 BTC [-] {4}
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196593 << eh I bet it's just other disqus users who were curious about the link ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 14:39:21; asciilifeform: three differents, so far
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196617 << i've been uncloaked through the whole thing and only once or twice was i knocked off and even in those cases i'm not sure it was the ddosser ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 14:52:12; Adlai: if you mean lurking for ips through uncloaked hosts... the uncloaked fools should know better -_-
Adlai: then perhaps they were targeting based on link-follows
Adlai: which is tbh more consistent with what happened a few weeks ago ☟︎
Adlai experienced sudden router failure mere moments after rejoining freenode, same router had functioned just fine for a while before
danielpbarron: i "click" most of the links here by pasting them into archive.is
Adlai: aka "why is wotnet notyet"
danielpbarron wonders if assbot can automatically submit urls to archive.is like he currently submits them to bit.ly
Adlai: no that is clearly a violation of intergalactic law
danielpbarron also wonders what is the correct gender pronoun for a bot, and in particular, assbot
danielpbarron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf2wbRWb9xI "obligatory" and also has tits
assbot: Basshunter - Boten Anna (Original Version) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JUj1Ni )
danielpbarron: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: one possible idea re: how to let n00bs speak: host a few 'bathyscaphe' bots, having www-based chat on one end and a pre-regged cloaked account on the other. but if a bozo connect to one, can be signalled from here to add his ip to ban list.
ascii_field: i can already guess what mircea_popescu will say to this: 'we don't dignify sp4mz0rz by reacting to anything they do'
ascii_field: kakobrekla will answer, not unreasonably, 'how about ~you~ do this'
ascii_field: i will answer 'i shall do it, in my Copious Spare Time! (tm)'
ascii_field: meanwhile taleb and uncleal will log in, witness a thread about dogecoin, then get a flood of ddos, vomit, and never return
fluffypony: danielpbarron: the lyrics are my favourite: http://artists.letssingit.com/basshunter-lyrics-boten-anna-translated-to-english-4z56w84
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JUjU8D )
fluffypony: "she can ban, ban you so hard"
ascii_field: my current hypothesis is that all the relevant folks are waiting for 'gossipd' and don't give much of a fuck ☟︎
ascii_field: however, some of the same work will have to be done then
ascii_field: in particular, www gateways to gossip net will necessarily resemble the 'bathyscaphe' i described above
ascii_field: and will come under every conceivable kind of attack
ascii_field: ~precisely~ in order to get us to switch them off
ascii_field: this entire line of thought is not entirely disconnected from the 'transaction spam' thread
trinque: Adlai | aka "why is wotnet notyet" << hear hear
Adlai: artifexd: wtf
Adlai: where's the grindstone and where's your nose, and why are neither bloody
Adlai: ascii_field: the lack of dignification is aka the refusal to be terrosrized
Adlai: which is largely how the <western nation> lost <war> long before the first grunt printed the first boot in the desert
ascii_field: Adlai: i think he went off to learn c
Adlai: lolololotroll
trinque: really isn't a "learn C" task eh?
Adlai: tbpfh, wotnet could be build using the shell, even pre-rebirth
ascii_field: mno.
trinque: Adlai: heh I wrote two bash oneliners for cheap p2p chat
ascii_field: 'wall'
Adlai: mya.
ascii_field: comes with unix5
ascii_field: but NOT WOTNET
Adlai: wake me up when eternal september ends.
ascii_field: ends when we end it.
trinque: the luser final solution.
ascii_field: luserwagen.
Adlai: "we"L
Adlai educates the qwerty-sheltered public that L is a common dvorak typo for the query suffix
Adlai: who knows how many log-lurkers there are!
trinque: !up Xuthus
Adlai: !s xuthus
assbot: 23 results for 'xuthus' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=xuthus
trinque: !down Xuthus
Adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2015#1022379 LOL ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2015 18:00:13; Xuthus: mircea_popescu, why don't you go and code something ?
decimation: http://blog.bofh.it/id_456 < "Short summary: if these emails are true, and so far nobody has found any credible reason to believe that they are not, then some major italian ISPs hijacked the IP addresses of a foreign ISP on request of the section of the Carabinieri which investigates terrorism and organized crime."
assbot: Hacking Team and a case of BGP hijacking ... ( http://bit.ly/1eNgU0e )
Adlai: "never trust a fart^H^H^H^H^Hn IP address" - bill murray
ascii_field: jurov ^
ascii_field: re: ntp thread.
thestringpuller: !up ascii_field
thestringpuller: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3cs3q8/bitcoin_price_rallies_sharply_as_robust/ << cazalla BingoBoingo massive lulz and butthurt
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118300 @ 0.00050928 = 60.2478 BTC [+]
ascii_field: oderint dum metuant (tm) (r)
thestringpuller: nigga, hate fuels MPOE stock prices. we'll probably be able to trade hate as a currency soon with all the butthurt.
shinohai: hmm [MPEX] [HATE] *fueled by reddit
thestringpuller: I always wondered about archiving the most idiotic of the reddit comments on bitcoin somewhere as entertainment
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00050928 = 6.748 BTC [+]
trinque: no, lisp and other wonderful things were thrown down the memory hole by these fucks
trinque: it's their turn to be forgotten.
ascii_field: trinque: important to remember that these folks are just as powerless to do constructive things as they are to do serious damage
ascii_field: what if they ~had~ wished for lisp machine?
ascii_field: i'll have you know that reddit circa 2006-2007 - sorta did!
trinque: ascii_field: yeah, I recall
trinque: was written in CL first
ascii_field: not the operators
ascii_field: but the regulars on the site
ascii_field: were sympathetic to the idea. but nothing came of it, as nothing could have
trinque: yeah, I see your point about good ideas in the wrong hands
ascii_field: you can't crowdsource a moonshot.
ascii_field: a pile of shit? happily
trinque: all the better reason for them to be forgotten
ascii_field: who?
trinque: whatever's left of them can keep an oral tradition ☟︎
trinque: redditards
ascii_field: reddit clearly doesn't try to remember anything
ascii_field: i once logged in, and for amusement tried to access some of my old posts
ascii_field: gone
trinque: heh, plowed under
ascii_field: most recently, when digging out the 'mother nature' infanticide study link for ben_vulpes ☟︎
ascii_field: for several years, my link to it was among the top few all-time hits on reddit
trinque: when it had one subreddit and wasn't well known you could almost have a conversation on there
trinque: s/sub//
ascii_field: aha
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: hallo ascii_field
ascii_field: http://wrtnode.com << now only a factor of ~2 away from pogo bang/bux
assbot: WRTnode Opened for $25 ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcsurI )
ascii_field: (it still needs a chassis, power, storage, ... clock!)
ascii_field has not tried this device
ascii_field: https://wikidevi.com/wiki/MediaTek_MT7620 << fairly classic
assbot: MediaTek MT7620 - WikiDevi ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcsLLc )
ascii_field: http://www.anz.ru/files/mediatek/MT7620_Datasheet.pdf
ascii_field: iirc it is similar to the chipset in 'hootoo'
ascii_field: http://www.aliexpress.com/price/mt7620_price.html << can, supposedly, be sourced !
assbot: Compare Prices on Mt7620- Online Shopping/Buy Low Price Mt7620 at Factory Price | Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcsW9m )
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/IeZdl << Oh the lulz
assbot: Bitcoin price rallies sharply as robust transaction fee market develops proving the naysayers were wrong. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cva2Q0 )
mircea_popescu: bwahaha
trinque notices the confederate flag under the rabbit
trinque: loool
ascii_field: Xiaomi Router sells 7620-based routers for ~25-35 usd, with usb jacks (but 128m ram, as pogo)
mircea_popescu: qntra comtinues to bring home the wins.
ascii_field: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/xiaomi/mini << them.
assbot: Xiaomi MiWiFi Mini [OpenWrt Wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1GctImA )
ascii_field not overly fond of 'wifi'
BingoBoingo: Reddit still shows 40+ points inspite of being 40% downvoted.
mircea_popescu: dude, the wishful thinking of the empire of fail matters so very much...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99748 @ 0.00050149 = 50.0226 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: every mother warned her daughter about the perils of fast cars throughout the 60s.
mircea_popescu: so very well that worked, srsly.
ben_vulpes: anyone running dd-wrt have a recommendation on midprice router hardware?
trinque: ben_vulpes: I had it running on a buffalo something
trinque: was cheap, did the job
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: it will run on just about anything
ben_vulpes: certainly, but i'd like something nice-/ish/
ben_vulpes: i have eight people here and this consumer object is falling over
mircea_popescu: omg get them to play eulora!!11
ben_vulpes: get outta heah!
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: that 'ufo'-like thing by the people who made 'edgerouter' - the same one i whined about and posted disassembly photos - runs wrt pretty well
ascii_field: 100% uptime since feb.
mircea_popescu: no u! it's graet gaem
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 364739 | Current Difficulty: 4.940201493122746E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 364895 | Next Difficulty In: 156 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 0 hours, 57 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 47150109359.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.55833
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 288.64, Best ask: 288.73, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 288.73, 24 hour volume: 70201.9012057, 24 hour low: 268.58, 24 hour high: 292.66, 24 hour vwap: None
mircea_popescu: mmkay
ben_vulpes: rallymoad?
trinque: iirc mircea_popescu called 300 a week or two ago
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: "unifi ap"?
ascii_field: aha
ascii_field: but don't even think about trying to use the included firmware
mircea_popescu: trinque thought it was more like 5 days or somesuch
ascii_field: it's worthless
BingoBoingo: More lulz today http://www.citylab.com/commute/2015/07/iowa-makes-a-bold-admission-we-need-fewer-roads/398021/ << Iowas gives up on Roads!!!
assbot: Iowa's DOT Chief Expects the State's Road Network to Shrink - CityLab ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcuccA )
trinque: mircea_popescu: ya could've been
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: wipe and slam with dd-wrt?
ascii_field: or other unixlike
ben_vulpes: ah that's delightfully affordable
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: comes with power-over-ethernet brick
ascii_field: at least, mine did
punkman: have a look at http://linux-sunxi.org/Main_Page
assbot: linux-sunxi.org ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcugZX )
punkman: supports a lot of chinese boxes
ascii_field: (the 'ufo' has no dc jack. gotta supply dc bias on the ethernet cable)
ben_vulpes: neat trick.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne btw you know about #eulora do you ?
thestringpuller: ascii_field: can't crowdsource a cumshot. save that for the professionals.
mircea_popescu: lmao say wut ?
mircea_popescu: !s bukkake
assbot: 15 results for 'bukkake' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bukkake
ascii_field: !b 5 ✂︎
assbot: Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/19RJ7SW.txt )
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: !up Gabriel-work
mircea_popescu: gabriel WORK !?
mircea_popescu: da fuck last thing i ever expected to see.
Gabriel-work: lol
mircea_popescu: what do you work ? :D
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: he might know how to eat tree bark, but still has to pay for bandwidth, no ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field btw is mr xemist all butthurt at our new fangled techs ?
Gabriel-work: ascii_field: other people pay for my bandwith
Gabriel-work: and my food
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60000 @ 0.00051949 = 31.1694 BTC [+] {2}
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: he hasn't mailed me back
Gabriel-work had antipasta for breakfast
mircea_popescu: he could be a woman in tech, if he had any tits.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: and i could be an anteater
Gabriel-work: anyways, I work with lab equipment and CL
ascii_field signs up for ant-eating academy
mircea_popescu: if you had the nose.
Gabriel-work: and russians
ascii_field: precisely, if the nose
mircea_popescu: Gabriel-work the heavy drinking, lithe natasha type ?
mircea_popescu: or the noseless ant eater type ?
Gabriel-work: the latter
Gabriel-work: I think they'd like Stas
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45913 @ 0.00049609 = 22.777 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: !up qntranet
mircea_popescu: http://mmocadet.com/ <<
assbot: MMO Cadet - YOUR GUIDE TO THE VERSE-ES ... ( http://bit.ly/1M05PXV )
mircea_popescu: inaugural post. also happens to be last post.
mircea_popescu: the internet is so full of sad stories.
mircea_popescu: but, on the brighter side, also a lot of butthurt. http://40.media.tumblr.com/aaacdb7330ec2c3cf1a1bcc07580c961/tumblr_n02tli4eQH1trou22o1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1M05W5y )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1195844 << incidentally kako has a golden point. if you actually solder a clock in there, suddenly it does have rng ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 22:35:26; kakobrekla: yet
ascii_field: clock != rng
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1195851 << should be user-settable! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 22:38:18; asciilifeform: ^^ i dare to suggest that the patch be considered by therealbitcoin ^^
mircea_popescu: ascii_field close enough, since any two clocks are an entropy measuring tool.
ascii_field: pretty bad tool unless the resolution of said clocks is high
mircea_popescu: and any programmable computer necessarily has an interrupt clock
ascii_field: (1sec certainly doesn't cut it)
mircea_popescu: so adding a 2nd => rng.
ascii_field: thing is, rng needs attributes ~other~ than 'shits entropy'. namely, not to be correlated with variables manipulable or monitorable by enemy
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i have no idea what sort of an argument is this. there's no such thing as good or bad entropy. the thing is unqualifiable by definition. do you mean that you'd have to wait longer to generate a strong address? so you would.
ascii_field: interrupts are precisely the wrong kind of animal
mircea_popescu: at the rate people use adresses you need something like 1 byte of entropy per hour.
ascii_field: 'bad entropy' is easy: the kind which the enemy can cut you off from by silencing your net connection; or the kind he can guess some bits of, by watching packets (no interrupt source in pogo is in any sense entropic other than the NIC's)
mircea_popescu: i guess, but there's some practical security considerations here.
ascii_field: at any rate, if you really must have rng on pogo for some perverse reason, can do it right now
mircea_popescu: yes, you can't run satoshi dice off a pogo.
ascii_field: using the emulated rtc
mircea_popescu: yes, you'll prolly be safe to keep a coupla btc for going to porcfest.
ascii_field: you don't need calendar date for rng-from-interrupts
shinohai: $poker
mircea_popescu: rtc/interrupts seems to me a much worse scheme than ic2 clock / interrupts
ascii_field: ic2 ?
ben_vulpes: k
mircea_popescu: i2c
mircea_popescu: incidentally, gotta say that laser cooled cesium clock thing is pretty spiffy an idea.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: 1950s idea
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 235200 @ 0.00052394 = 123.2307 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: most good ideas are half a century old or mopre.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196545 << butt did he open source it! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 09:17:30; punkman: well if amir is backing it...
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196594 << multiple times over the past ~6 months. behaviour was not reproducible. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 14:42:41; asciilifeform: has anyone recently probed for the continued existence of the ddos bot ?
mircea_popescu: as best anyone knows, kid moved on.
shinohai: is it the same guy that is is in dogecoin
mircea_popescu: no idea
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196600 << omg stop improving it. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 14:46:24; asciilifeform: what do we need the idling remoras for ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196602 << everyone gets to have their basic skills tested. if old hand can't breathe, old hand dies. i'll be the first to regret it with you, and the last to change the requirement for continued breathing because old man mcschmuck can do it no longer. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 14:47:44; asciilifeform: what openness, when tomorrow, e.g., taleb, logs in, and gets ddosed off by a tard
mircea_popescu: it's a pity ulcer got naggum. it is out of the question we change how ulcer works to get people.
ascii_field: shovel derp != breathe
mircea_popescu: so you think.
mircea_popescu: ask the afids on your eyelids.
ascii_field: i mean, mircea_popescu does have a point
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196623 << just like there exists a class of innocent nazi ministers, and nice soviet officials, and respectable usg civil servants and so on. THEORETICALLY. in practice, no. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 14:53:07; decimation: but there exists a class of non-irc-savvy people who are actual people
ascii_field: but put yourself in the place of herr schwartz. you get invited, and then some rotter throws shit in your face
mircea_popescu: i know i know.
mircea_popescu: it is unfortunate at best.
mircea_popescu: but the obvious solution happens to be wrong is all.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I didn't know about #eurola, I'll join
mircea_popescu: incidentally, clinton had the same problem. "gee, mr yeltsin, i wish i could say the same"
williamdunne: Ehhh I appear to me on my own in #eurola
mircea_popescu: also try dylsexia.
mircea_popescu: in other news, facebook clone passes one trillion users! ---> http://vk.com/id74024866
assbot: Dfgf Vby ... ( http://bit.ly/1HqMS9x )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66300 @ 0.00049572 = 32.8662 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: why would a fella who owns 'rpg7' need inflatable gurl ?
mircea_popescu: you mean the dildo in the pic ?
ascii_field: aha
ascii_field: both of'em
mircea_popescu: with great dongs comes great need for inflatable support ?
mircea_popescu kinda likes the fake look, ftr. if nothing else, it shows the girl is trying, and willing to go to extreme inconvenience for an idea. and it's the right sort of idea, too : pleasing others.
mircea_popescu: much better than the alternative "career woman" from a purely moral standpoint.
mircea_popescu: the latter may be right, but in principle she'll be right some of the time and it's necessarily hard to separate them. the latter's gonna be nice, also some of the time, but much easier to separate.
mircea_popescu: as it mostly scales with age.
shinohai: ! s pr0n mpex
trinque: hm, time to work on some hunchentootage
trinque pushes one button
ascii_field: trinque: it's pretty spiffy
Adlai: more than just an opera!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196645 << heh. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 15:15:51; Naphex: don't tell me what to do ;]
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the 'fake look' to me suggests that there's 'nobody home', rather than organism 'trying' anything
mircea_popescu: and why is this, ascii_field ?
ascii_field: solely from personal experience with creatures having this appearance
ascii_field: where i live - they're monosyllabic. mental age permanently 12 or so ☟︎
ascii_field: on mircea_popescu's planet - different ?
mircea_popescu: do you prefer a 12 yo with fake tits or an obnoxious 12yo ?
mircea_popescu: becauyse guess what ? the 12yo mental age IS A GIVEN
ascii_field: why?!
ascii_field: why a given
mircea_popescu: because there's not enough brains to feed seven billion heads.
ascii_field: and not enough room in block for phree tx for 7 trillion redditors, aha
ascii_field: and not enough rubidium lamps for every pc
ascii_field: etc
mircea_popescu: that's the point. once you know she's gonna be 12 for the rest of your life - would you rather have the sort that goes under the knife for approval or the sort that smashes scales ?
mthreat: hola todos
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: to borrow from herr churchill, 'if she were my wife, i'd drink it'
mircea_popescu: seems to me the former's by far the morally apt posture.
shinohai: hola pues
mircea_popescu: hola mthreat. how goes ?
shinohai: que hay de bueno
mthreat: not bad... just got the itch to poke my head in here
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i still have no idea why anyone'd get married, but then again i'm weird like that. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: mthreat hey, you gonna try eulora ? :D
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: all i can say is that here in mordor, they do it because health 'insurance'
mthreat: mircea_popescu: some financial reasons - inheritence, taxes, citizenship, etc
ascii_field: and sometimes for passport
shinohai: make eulora a MUD xD
mircea_popescu: ascii_field aka "their mental age is 15" ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: aka no signature - no doctor
mthreat: oh also, to avoid being forced to testify
trinque: ^ that one's not bad
mircea_popescu: lol that's a good one.
mthreat: although these days they just throw both the man and woman in jail to make that hard
mircea_popescu: in any case, disparaging the owner of a technologically improved sexual body while at the same time holding notionm like, "marry - to satisfy social expectations, be they in the form of taxation or citizenship or anythin else" seems confused.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: ftr i don't give a flying fuck how much of the gurl is made of what polymer
ascii_field: just that 'nobody's home'
mircea_popescu: note that i'm not for a moment proposing a course of action. nevertheless, holding the owner of 50k in silicone dispersed through her fat tissue in less regard than the mean seems nonsensical.
ascii_field: entirely separate concerns
ascii_field: (not that my opinion is relevant to any of the folks involved. they and i live on separate planets)
mircea_popescu: i can see that. but then again, how're you to know from a pic.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 154700 @ 0.0004944 = 76.4837 BTC [-] {5}
ascii_field: 'different strokez for different folks', i don't give a damn if she bought 50k of plastic tit or of 'cessna'
mircea_popescu: and especially nonsensical given that there's an exactly just as silly, but opposite direction social convention : people going around with a prosthetic leg are apparently GREAT!11 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: seems just more puritan nonsense at wurk.
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: prosthetic leg - only great if comes with good war story. (or pirate!)
ascii_field: and only for 5min or so.
trinque: prosthetic pussy is its own war story
mircea_popescu: you know... retrospecitvely i agree ? i think we found the common ground!
mircea_popescu: for to my eyes too, "Fake tits only great if come with great whoredom story"
ascii_field: trinque: see opera 'hedwig and the angry inch'
trinque: ascii_field: I have a cat named hedwig!
trinque: male
trinque: or was!
ascii_field: l0l
mircea_popescu: does he have a helmet ?
trinque: heh he does not
trinque: thought he was female, then the day of spaying his balls dropped
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196659 << assbot does the bitly for this reason - use it ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 16:53:43; Adlai: which is tbh more consistent with what happened a few weeks ago
ascii_field: !s a pig like that
assbot: 3 results for 'a pig like that' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=a+pig+like+that
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196677 << some of the relevant folk are so far behind what passes for banal standard here, takes them a week of meditation to get to a place where it can be arranged into a semblance of sense. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 17:07:16; ascii_field: my current hypothesis is that all the relevant folks are waiting for 'gossipd' and don't give much of a fuck
mircea_popescu: ask around.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i meant - the lot of us. nobody wants to really break a sweat for channel housekeeping because gossipd is 'the right thing'
ascii_field: but i suspect that the puzzle of how to get 'talebs' in here without the doorway being permanently plugged with reddit turds will remain
shinohai will work here
mircea_popescu: no, i happen to think your housekeeping ideas are a short path to hell.
ascii_field: probably
ascii_field: kakobrekla did point out (later in thread) that none of it would make a whit of difference
mircea_popescu: to make things too pointed for life : tyhis place doesn't need X, for any given x. it can use x, but it has alternatives. X however, ~does not~ have alternatives. he pretends like he does and perceives that he does. he does not. the reason this is the case is specifically for particularities of this place that should never be fixed.
mircea_popescu: for should they ever be fixed, yes, it'd perhaps be "easier" for x to get involved. nevertheless, it'll also be pointless for anyone to get involved.
ascii_field: this is a good summary of why, e.g., voice model and gpg mechanizm
mircea_popescu: exaclty.
ascii_field: but the n00bs-get-ddosed turd still stinks. no matter how dresses as sausage
mircea_popescu: obviously invite-only would solve all the same conundrums we currently solve in this particularly circumlocutionary manner
mircea_popescu: this isn't because we're circumlocutory idiots. it's because it's actually necessary, for very good reasons.
mircea_popescu: and yes shit will still stink.
mircea_popescu: !up Gabriel-work
Gabriel-work: thank you
mircea_popescu: np
Gabriel-work: IMHO
Gabriel-work: there are only three or four "talebs"
mircea_popescu: you're only counting the old ones.
Gabriel-work: in the invite, let them know about the DDOS bot
mircea_popescu: this is worse than useless.
Gabriel-work: ?
Gabriel-work: how so?
mircea_popescu: "oh there's only three or four spent cartridges on the floor"
mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares. i want the taleb in his 20s not the taleb in his 70s.
mircea_popescu: not that i MIND the later. but neither to i drastically care.
Gabriel-work: Ahhh
ascii_field was a sort of borderline case when invited to bitcoin-assets by hanbot
mircea_popescu: anyway, all this too pointed for life discussion. i tire of it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109007 @ 0.00052684 = 57.4292 BTC [+] {2}
Gabriel-work: taleb in his 20s will find his way here
mircea_popescu: fact remains, there's going to be some inconvenience.
Gabriel-work: taleb in his 70s needs to be invited
mircea_popescu: sorry about that.
ascii_field: i suspect that '20-y.o. taleb' may be a contradiction in terms
ascii_field: like 20.y.o. socrates
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196739 << don't knock it, it's how women survived for millenia before there were fake knockers. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 17:55:51; trinque: whatever's left of them can keep an oral tradition
ascii_field: man life cycle doesn't quite work that way
mircea_popescu: ascii_field but socrates was factually 20.
ascii_field: aha
ascii_field: was 2, too
mircea_popescu: right.,
ascii_field: but 'not socrates yet'
mircea_popescu: i always thought that's the king of pedos : the guy that fucks future stars only
mircea_popescu: when they're 5.
mircea_popescu: then buys their records, 15 years later.
Adlai: and forever regrets, "if only i'd bought her that lollipop"
mircea_popescu: lol nah, this'd be a more frank-the-ditch-esque personality.
mircea_popescu: dumps them when they're 7, too old now, going to school.
Adlai: which ditch is called frank?
mircea_popescu: ;;google frank the ditch
gribble: Doing 'The Ditch' Capt. Frank's Way - Inside Practical Sailor Blog ...: <http://www.practical-sailor.com/blog/ICW-cruising-tips-11383-1.html>; SOLUTION: Dave can dig a ditch in 6 hours, and Sam can ... - Algebra: <http://www.algebra.com/algebra/homework/Rational-functions/Rational-functions.faq.question.308994.html>; Arizona: Water It Makes a Village | The Nature Conservancy: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: pff google!
Adlai has not the ability to load google from this client
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/frank-the-ditch/
assbot: Frank the Ditch on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUBR59 )
Adlai: google is too much cruft
mircea_popescu: still gives hanbot nightmares.
mircea_popescu: and with that... of to craft!
Adlai stops reading after the first sentence of every paragraph!
Adlai: again and again. fancy that.
punkman: I'd setup a gigablast instance fed by log links
Adlai goes back to work
punkman: that fortress of code looks impenetrable on one hand, seems to work out the box on the other
trinque thinks mircea_popescu would write good metal lyrics
ascii_field: http://labs.bromium.com/2015/07/10/government-grade-malware-a-look-at-hackingteams-rat << analysis of some of the ht turdwarez
assbot: Government Grade Malware: a Look at HackingTeam’s RAT | Bromium Labs ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUDjUY )
trinque: ascii_field: heh some of this we did at a previous job as "parental controls" software
trinque: the IM interception and social website session hijacking
trinque: was a lot of fun actually
trinque: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: trinque: aha, sop
ascii_field: nothing really remarkable in the turd, just a 'complete set'
trinque: yeah, looks like the list of features on sub7 or back orifice
BingoBoingo: I'll be back in a few
trinque: my god they have antivirus detection functions!
trinque: twenty-six of them!
trinque: hopefully this means the government will spend more of my future on cybersecurity
mircea_popescu: http://minigame.bz/jurov/HackedTeam/Hacked%20Team/ << if anyone cares.
assbot: Index of /jurov/HackedTeam/Hacked Team
ascii_field: ^ neat!
mircea_popescu: there is no guarantee that it will stay up forever.
ascii_field: not a bad test of 'bulletproof' host
ascii_field: the bullets - will fly
mircea_popescu: dobut they will and this isn't even bulletproof.
ascii_field: this might be the first lulzleak where i think it is interesting and mircea_popescu proclaims snorefest ☟︎
mats: it's interesting because the capability is wide
mats: and snorefest because it's relatively easy
ascii_field: mats: the code is by far the most boring part
ascii_field: the interesting part is that these folks were in the buttbuddy s333k000r1ty wot
ascii_field: and handsomely paid to do trivial shit
mats: but if you're a nation-state without access to the wot or a skilled pool of devs
ascii_field: (iirc mircea_popescu had some unnamed intelligence that the 'handsomely paid' part didn't happen...?) ☟︎
mats: and you've got an op you need talent for, folks like HT to aid you
ascii_field: that wasn't the unknown in the equation
ascii_field: but rather 'why does ht get to do this'
mats: rather than force you to forego the opportunity the op presents, or spend six months to a year spinning up
mats: er, folks like HT exist to aid you
ascii_field: my point is that if i, or mats, write to, e.g., saudi, offering ht work, will be laughed out of the room; and, since these twits don't believe in pgp, we'd get a visit from gasenwagen the next day ☟︎
ascii_field: ergo, ht et al carry out their trade under crown concession.
mats: sure
ascii_field: on one side of the coin - someone to vouch for them, prevent laugh-out-of-the-room; on other - to avoid 'having problems', wash the money, handle employees who might like to go free-agent
trinque: maybe one of them got arrested back in the day
mats: and one day we may have the same fellas at the fringes of our wot, tryna get in
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=18-02-2015#1023860 << see also ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2015 16:36:33; mircea_popescu: it's not so much a "i want those guys back" as it is "i want the situaiton where being 20 and into computers was more distinctive than any other thing - and you could spot a govt mole from a mile away"
ascii_field: ^ namely, the fact that we even think about 'moles' is indicative of how low the entire computing thing has fallen
trinque thumps emacs on the side of the head
trinque: it's off dreaming of electric sheep again
ascii_field: http://minigame.bz/jurov/HackedTeam/Hacked%20Team/m.romeo/screenshots/HsCzCKRf.jpeg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IPNOJU )
ascii_field: ^ l0l
ascii_field: ^ Run Moar Winblowz
shinohai: is webchat obsolete?
ascii_field: i'm still floored by all the drooling morons who think that you need to build code under microshit's compiler, when writing turdware
trinque: impostors posing as human beings everywhere
shinohai: if everyone voiced here was in my irc then i could sync node
ascii_field: shinohai: wai wat
trinque: they saw other Very Serious People using windoze, and so that's what they do
ascii_field: trinque: even the 'project olympic games' team at nsa seems to use 100% vs
ascii_field: what a sad joke
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46150 @ 0.000524 = 24.1826 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: i'm not sure how a compiler which produces a 300KB 'hello world' and 800KB 'virus' could evoke anything but derisive laughter
trinque: ascii_field: I saw a picture somewhere that drove it home
trinque: super serious NSA guy at some congressional hearing
trinque: on his windows laptop, some daytime television FireEye screen
trinque: they're all morons acting out a terrible show
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2014#756107 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2014#756108 ☝︎☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2014 03:00:27; asciilifeform: one of my first job interviews out of uni. telephone. a fellow from one of the giant gov. contractors was really intrigued that i know x86 asm., have reversed crud for money. i ask him 'what's the job'. he: automated reversing. me: of what. he: ever hear of karatsuba's algo? me: sure. bignum mult. him: well, we wanna find encryption softs on terrorist drives!
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2014 03:00:53; asciilifeform: me: why would terrorist run ms-win. he: they will always, trust me. ☟︎
jurov: http://minigame.bz/jurov/HackedTeam/Hacked%20Team/c.pozzi/screenshots/eflMbLTM.jpeg obligatory solitaire
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hr77Ut )
jurov: why such hate? it pays the bills ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52600 @ 0.00052587 = 27.6608 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: jokes on us, libjpeg is pwn3d, and we all just got rooted
trinque: gg haxor team
trinque: !up gabriel_laddel
gabriel_laddel: ty
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1197128 << because why should it pay ~their~ billz ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 20:43:03; jurov: why such hate? it pays the bills
gabriel_laddel: trinque: how goes
trinque: not bad, hunchentootin' today ☟︎
trinque: and you?
ascii_field: trinque: perhaps meta-nsa doesn't need the libjpeg 0day, given as we'll confess in the coke machine anyway
trinque: heh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106350 @ 0.00052862 = 56.2187 BTC [+] {2}
williamdunne: lol
williamdunne: https://twitter.com/pierre_rochard/status/619610930335191040
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00052058 = 10.9322 BTC [-]
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: good afternoon
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7662 @ 0.00052058 = 3.9887 BTC [-]
shinohai: O.o hay +O
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: hey what's happenin
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: hacking the day away, yourself?
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: https://blockchain.info/ip-address/195.211.154.159 << l0l, didn't know this pheature existed
assbot: Transactions Relayed By 195.211.154.159 - Blockchain.info ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkVpOb )
ascii_field: https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions-excluding-chains-longer-than-10 << l33t sp4mz0rz
assbot: Bitcoin Number of Transactions Excluding Chains Longer Than 10 ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkW1DF )
trinque: https://blockchain.info/charts/transaction-fees << and a little bump here too
assbot: Bitcoin Total Transaction Fees ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkWh5p )
decimation: 'chains longer than 10' does that mean that there are 10 transactions that end up consolidating into one account?
decimation: at any rate it is clear someone revved up spam machine
decimation: ascii_field: http://rusty.ozlabs.org/?p=522
assbot: The Megatransaction: Why Does It Take 25 Seconds? - Rusty Russell's Coding Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkWAx0 )
decimation: https://blockchain.info/tx/bb41a757f405890fb0f5856228e23b715702d714d59bf2b1feb70d8b2b4e3e08
decimation: someone laid a mega-fecolith into the blockchain
ascii_field: 0 fee, aha
jurov: "Chains Longer Than 10" imo chains of unconfirmed txs
ascii_field: decimation: parallelizing the sig verify thing would be pretty simple
decimation: aye
decimation: jurov: ah that kinda makes sense. would be useful if they had docs
jurov: what dox? nice pix that pay their bills suffice.
trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/10/us-usa-reddit-resignation-idUSKCN0PK2HZ20150710 << lol!
assbot: Ellen Pao resigning as CEO of Reddit: source| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkYfD0 )
mircea_popescu: "It was widely reported to take about 25 seconds for bitcoin core to process this block: this is far worse than my “2 seconds per MB” result in my last post, which was considered a pretty bad case. Let’s look at why."
mircea_popescu: clearly, 20 mb blocks HAVE CONSENSUS BEHIND THEM
mircea_popescu: the consensus of bleating idiots
trinque: and they are losing their glorious leader, it seems
mircea_popescu: where the fuck is that gavin idiot now ? where are all the twerps that were going on about how my article describing him in terms of mental retardation was, to any degree, off mark ?
ascii_field: we know where
ascii_field: at noblis et al, spamming tx
mircea_popescu: the man belongs in an institution for the developmentally delayed.
mircea_popescu: Short Term Steps Use the Intel and ARM optimized SHA256 routines, which increase SHA256 speed by about 80%. << NO.
mircea_popescu: not now, not EVER.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: pretty transparent that the derps ~want~ to tempt the easily tempted
ascii_field: with 'magic accelerator'
mircea_popescu: sure. nevertheless...
mircea_popescu: fucking hell, having usg-ssh imported into bitcoin wasn't bad enough
mircea_popescu: let's also import "intel".
mircea_popescu: five billion lines of proprietary code in an unknown language that nobody has ever seen.
ascii_field: decimation et al: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/fud-halt-all-trading-very-important-info-inside-42.246888 << one of the few search hits for that 19VAb9zAhpWLaWfEuqw9HXup2zaNoNPPyE
mircea_popescu: is this going to be another scammer doing the goat routine ?
ascii_field: who or wat it was, i do not know
ascii_field: but that's the source of the 1mb monolithic tx turd from earlier
ascii_field: (or rather, ~a~ source)
mircea_popescu: ah that
mircea_popescu: it's meaningless really.
jurov: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-military-tested-bacterial-weapons-in-san-francisco-2015-7
assbot: The military tested bacterial weapons in San Francisco - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkYSMI )
mircea_popescu: !s a-ads
assbot: 7 results for 'a-ads' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=a-ads
ascii_field: not entirely. these, after all, aren't raindrops, they have arms and legs growing out of them somewhere.
ascii_field: jurov: i thought this was well-known for decades?
jurov: not by me
trinque: jurov: "This is a crazy story; one that seems like it must be a conspiracy theory." << beatings for people who do this
trinque: it's fucking 2015
trinque: the govt testing bioweapons on the population is not weird or fringe
trinque: people are just cowards and must remind themselves that "they wouldn't dare!" like an autistic tic
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski "I’m not sure how this level of thrills compares with, say, Eulora" << disfavourably. 50% returns not that uncommon, but i just brought home 4200 grass on a 2 axes + 400 threads run (like 220%).
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: oh yes. and then it lands on my fucking body and needs several tests and cultivations to ascertain what it is and how to cure it
jurov: presently, in my left ear
mircea_popescu: an actual bacteria ?!
jurov: that was the first hypothesis
jurov: now the doc was like "hm, something still there, looks like fungi or yeast
mircea_popescu: did you get the streptomycin/cephalosporin/etc barage ?
mircea_popescu: oh. see, that's a different story.
mircea_popescu: it is rare to see bacteria giving trouble to imuno-indemn individuals. yeasts on the other hand... ask an adult woman.
jurov: no bacteria was cultivated, and i avoid atb until strictly necessary
jurov: as our whole family is half deaf thanks to them
mircea_popescu: hm
mircea_popescu: how's that work ?
jurov: specifically, streptomycin, erythromycin and one more i forgot
jurov: it just kills ear nerve endings
mircea_popescu: yeah. it's a bitch - best way to handle staph aureus (guy on skin), but ototoxic
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1197080 << so we complement each other. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 20:16:16; ascii_field: this might be the first lulzleak where i think it is interesting and mircea_popescu proclaims snorefest
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1197087 << it's really one step up from getafreelancer, that stuff. which is why not terribru interesting to me. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 20:19:20; ascii_field: (iirc mircea_popescu had some unnamed intelligence that the 'handsomely paid' part didn't happen...?)
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: notice, sometimes i have to try run a mircea_popescu under emulation, when the real one is asleep
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1197093 << "go talk to her then" "i'd be laugh out of the room" "yes, now you will be." ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 20:21:42; ascii_field: my point is that if i, or mats, write to, e.g., saudi, offering ht work, will be laughed out of the room; and, since these twits don't believe in pgp, we'd get a visit from gasenwagen the next day
mircea_popescu: lol emulated mp
jurov: mircea_popescu has forked as eulora owner/player, maybe he can do again for you
ascii_field: incidentally, if we ever abandon this place for gossipd etc. someone oughta leave shannonized (from logs) versions of us
ascii_field: let'em converse.
trinque: hahaha
trinque: the first test is whether you notice
mircea_popescu: im sure this is happening as we speak.
mircea_popescu: some kids in a private chan somewhere.
ascii_field: betcha it'd still make for better reading (or fuck, even conversation) than 'reddit' et al
mircea_popescu: www.metacafe.com/.../a_bronx_tale_1993_imitating_sonny_and_his_crew/‎ <<
jurov: http://imgur.com/Ydmf7Xl << mircea_popescu is step ahead as always
assbot: Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hl0eHj )
ascii_field: l0l!
ascii_field: was that nubbins`'s work ?
mircea_popescu: ahaha that was nubbins` ?
mircea_popescu: ye
jurov: y
mircea_popescu: i particularly like the tuft
ascii_field wonders what his buttons would be
mircea_popescu: gotta be lizard hitler in there.
trinque: "mega-l0l"
ascii_field: nah those are separate keys
jurov: "tron" compose key
trinque: hehe
mircea_popescu: i never saw anything but mega-lol.
ascii_field: eh, plenty
mircea_popescu: !s plenty-lol
assbot: 1 results for 'plenty-lol' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=plenty-lol
ascii_field: mega-b00kz
trinque: !s mega-snore
assbot: 8 results for 'mega-snore' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=mega-snore
trinque: ^
mircea_popescu: other than mega not other than lol!
ascii_field: we live in intense time. not many centi-, kilo-, snores
mircea_popescu: centisnore!
jurov: nanosnore :D
ascii_field: ^ one 10**9th of the boredom required to actually fall asleep ?
mircea_popescu: you know if you snore when you sleep it's apnea
ascii_field apparently doesn't
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80140 @ 0.00051988 = 41.6632 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: btw, anyone wanna make an emacs eulora client ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1197125 << in translation, "we prefer to hope they will than consider the matter. because if we considered the matter, i'd have to find a diff job, and so would my boss." ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2015 20:42:19; assbot: Logged on 15-07-2014 03:00:53; asciilifeform: me: why would terrorist run ms-win. he: they will always, trust me.
mircea_popescu: in related news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/97293b64e3203aa8ea15eaba7f01905e/tumblr_n00c2qbmB51r5dekpo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HTzmQc )
mthreat: !s "in other news" from:mircea
assbot: 279 results for '"in other news" from:mircea' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%22in+other+news%22+from%3Amircea
williamdunne: You can do !s http:// from:mircea_popescu and get vast quantities of porn
williamdunne: !s http:// from:mircea_popescu
assbot: 9006 results for 'http:// from:mircea_popescu' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2F+from%3Amircea_popescu
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111055 @ 0.00052703 = 58.5293 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3495 @ 0.00052894 = 1.8486 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: achtung, panzerz!
ascii_field: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al:
ascii_field: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000119.html
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcYRGL )
ascii_field: (EXPERIMENTAL) A farewell to 'testnet.'
ascii_field: and
ascii_field: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000120.html
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcYUCu )
ascii_field: (EXPERIMENTAL) Add '-verifyall' option.
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: same here little of this and little of that
ascii_field: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: so far, no one has signed any of my patches... am i to conclude that nobody reads these things?
ascii_field: or that nobody understands what is inside?
ascii_field: because if so, i can try to help...
ascii_field: or is it that jurov doesn't have a handy mechanical way to group these sigs together yet ?