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mats: at least
rms had emacs to show
mp_en_viaje: the
rms/ers/retardsonwheels brushing it under the rug, "oh, you'll know when you see it" is probably the chief idiocy ensuring their loud, miserable,
pollutant-ladden failure.
mircea_popescu: except of course all the old farts are completely moroning hellspawn a la jwz,
rms, ers, etcetera
mircea_popescu: the amusing part being that leaving aside his damning failure to show up,
rms wouldn't have made it five minutes in the forum on the basis of his absent culture, literacy or generally speaking working cns.
mircea_popescu: ftr, by
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1937123 i was discussing
rms. "They seemed receptive in a general way. But you know, whether Microsoft will change anything in practice, remains to be seen. Maybe it will change some things and not others, right? That's often happens. But I believe in judging each thing that a company does separately. So if a company is doing this thing, which is wrong and unjust, a
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:48:51 asciilifeform: this being said -- will be interesting to see which 'bob beck' is crowned as 'new
rms'.
snsabot: Logged on 2017-01-16 14:33:06 asciilifeform: one of the reasons i still, despite everything, have > 0 respect for
rms, is that of all of these figures, he never had 'about-face' moment.
mircea_popescu: whole
rms thing and what i suppose is here the continuation.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 19:13 stratum: Certainly, but one still has to survive among the internet places as they exist.. We cannot all be
RMS and have a helper print out websites for us because we're paranoid.
mircea_popescu: the cohen dork, ~claimed it~. like
rms or linus or hwatever other, "cypherpunks" / "internet freedom" blablabla. like the piratebay dorks, like zimmerman, and so on.
mircea_popescu: right. but -- and this is the truly painful part -- for a ~defensible~ reason. he was doing it instead of tcc ~for
rms's failure to rule~.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-23 17:23 asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu has this piece , where
rms as lev trotsky, 'troo left believer' surrounded by the usual swarm of cynical grifters who inevitably come to put proboscis into 'troo believer' as surely as flies to shit
mircea_popescu: "The move to non-free software was the culmination of a series of steps designed to lock users in. There never was a way to fully extract projects from SourceForge [and I never said anything about this because I,
rms, am a moron unfit to lead a L-shaped ambush, let alone an entire world], but efforts were made in this direction--then this year they were removed. At present the only things you can get are the CVS tree and trac
mircea_popescu: so, where's all the
rms "hey folks, make blogs,
rms-wp is over there", is what i wish to know.
mircea_popescu: WHY did not
rms say "you MUST unify the toolchain" at such a time as ~before~ ers could step in to do it for his usual expectation of a coversion gain ?
mircea_popescu: it should be instructive exactly ~how~ ers's warcrime as you (with cause) call it made its way into
rms's naive ranch of cattle purity : "SourceForge brought to Free Software a unified and standard development methodology based on modern tools. Before SourceForge, such tools (bug tracking, cvs, web, support, forums, polls, news, etc.) were available individually, but few developers used many of them together, because they had
mircea_popescu: because, obviously, in moron's eyes the problem wasn't socialism to begin with. i mean, mussolini tried, just didn't do it right. then hitler didn't do it right. stalin showed him how, but sadly also didn't do it right. but it's ok, roosevelt showed them how. and mao and trotsky and eventually
rms.
mircea_popescu: which is the point, it's a waste of time to consider "how linus separated" or "how
rms thought should be separated". whoile thing's built on magic musherooms, "sky quadrants" etc.
a111: Logged on 2015-01-10 06:25 asciilifeform: mats: gcc... a) i dont get it... << what's the hard concept here?
rms wishes to avoid gcc turning into a sweet and defenceless piece of candy for the 'embrace & extend/extinguish' folks.
a111: Logged on 2012-09-16 01:12 Diablo-D3: why the fuck did
rms even show up
a111: Logged on 2014-09-27 17:27 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: notice that
rms will not speak of lisp to this day. the demise of lmi cut him off from the genuine machines (there was no possibility of baking one by his lonesome, or with his band of ragged dervishes, any more than they could launch a mars mission)
a111: Logged on 2016-02-29 03:00 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you are still thinking of
rms as a self-aware creature, having a thought process
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 16:00 asciilifeform:
rms is tragicomic precisely ~because~ he won't let go of fundamentally usgistic thinking
a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 23:26 asciilifeform: dunno that
rms actually ~did~ anything in past 20+ yr. the man is a living flag.
stratum: Most people don't even have one "box" -- More and more browsing from their phones as their sole computing device, billions of them. I think there is a disconnect in what we're discussing: which is why I mention
RMS and his helpers.
stratum: Certainly, but one still has to survive among the internet places as they exist.. We cannot all be
RMS and have a helper print out websites for us because we're paranoid.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: here is sound "just like
rms", but why ? cuz where's the real one keks.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to go back to that thread : i suppose the "portability" discussion is deeply broken in empire (and no, linus,
rms and friends aren't "a republic of their own", they're leningrad school and naught else). consider how
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-15#1862894 drives the dilemma : "if the trouble of maintaining a tree is not justified, why do you think the iron discussed is worth having ? if you think the iron disc
☝︎ mircea_popescu: the previous time, it was about "names -- only names in their own heads", djb,
rms, whatever.
mircea_popescu: and i didn't write the lifestory of
rms, and so on. not everyone is c s lewis.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-17 13:35 asciilifeform: diana_coman: asciilifeform's pov re the retardation of 'open sores' ,
rms et al, is that they are tards not because they throw open the coad to allcomers but because they have no concept of wot , therefore were unable to conceptualize vtronics .
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835554 >> no, here we disagree. both
rms AND ers lines of socialism (called "free" and "open" source in-universe) are attempting to bake in the conclusion of socialism ("everything that ever crawled out of a cunt is sacred") while allowing you to dispute the conclusions. i am not interested in their idiotic "disputations". the issue, with BOTH approaches, quite indistinguishably, is exactly
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-07-16 15:44 mircea_popescu: 3. very clearly quashes the idiocy of
rms-ism AND ers-ism ("open source" bla bla), and makes the strong political statement that indeed there is a difference between nose breathers and mouthbreathers and so on.
mircea_popescu: 3. very clearly quashes the idiocy of
rms-ism AND ers-ism ("open source" bla bla), and makes the strong political statement that indeed there is a difference between nose breathers and mouthbreathers and so on.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i find fetlife sluts are about 10kx more interesting than hikikomori bois a la whatever set we've been contemplating, from curtis yarvin to
rms.
mircea_popescu: nobody involved with lisp coding, starting with
rms, and onwards, had a functioning noggin.
mircea_popescu: this is then summarized as "asciilifeform iirc
rms really hated noftsker, for some reason", and always in that same format, too, "for some reason". the reason, above : x said something y took somewhere.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 21:11 phf: mcclim always reminds me of how
rms was planning on competing with symbolics by reimplementing everything they had on top of gnu platform. that was the goal. only a handful people who actually worked with a genera realize how "special" the result of
rms's work was.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 21:11 phf: mcclim always reminds me of how
rms was planning on competing with symbolics by reimplementing everything they had on top of gnu platform. that was the goal. only a handful people who actually worked with a genera realize how "special" the result of
rms's work was.
mircea_popescu: observation that the ~ONLY~ reason the empire of stupid puts forth that pretense has nothing to do with them and everything to do with the few remaining intelligent people that even speak the language / bother to tune in (a fine example being the recent "triggering" nonsense re the abort() manual : the pretense the neets matter is SO THAT
RMS BELIEVES, not so that anything to do with the neets themselves ; yet somehow this te
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what REALLY happened was that
rms got in everyone's way with his usual "i'm dumb and slow" routine, so they took a decade to route around him
a111: Logged on 2018-04-06 20:58 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is not even clear to me that eben moglen (note, not
rms) gpl experiment , i.e. 'use copyrasty against itself', worked for a short while ( to naked eye it would seem that it did, bsd routines got subsumed into microshit, gnu -- not , but there ~are~ alternative plausible explanations that don't involve 'fear of gpl violation' )
mircea_popescu: it could be "one dood's blog", if
rms could ever muster enough cogency to keep a blog. but in fact, it's a loose association of conference-goers. for the same money they could be a "polyamory club" or w/e.
mircea_popescu: well, i guess we'll have to have a terminology standard then. how about this : fsf = "a little coven of pantsuit retards defined by loyalty to
rms and no further characteristics", ie fsf is about on the level of importance of "starslatecodex" ; gnu = "symbol with no concrete reference, sometimes used as g- or gnu- prefix by marketeers exacly like the string 'super-'" ; open = "group of usg wreckers working on perpetuating the
mircea_popescu: but why call it gcc if you don't aim to actually bury
rms's folly ?