a111: Logged on 2019-03-11 15:14 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-11#1901356 << after ch17 , asciilifeform is doomed to reimplement keccak, will have to load it into head, possibly will add to this recurrent thread
a111: Logged on 2019-03-11 16:32 asciilifeform: re 'torrent', consider fact that orig author is an unrepentant lulzcow and recidivist shitcoinist iirc
mircea_popescu: i can think of little more shameful than dood's "career", such as it is.
mircea_popescu: there's this pic of some indistinct slut i posted once i'm too lazy to retrieve. she happens to be white, sports all manner of celtic cross tattoos, stylisized "SS" etc, is taking a coupla brown dicks.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: that's the situation, djb never derped at length about republican values.
mircea_popescu: one example that'd come close is that aurenheimer schmuck say, or the charlie shrimp.
mircea_popescu: but these two cocksuckers ~never did anything~, they were lords like nubbins was one briefly.
mircea_popescu: this is a huge fucking difference, at least in my eyes.
mircea_popescu: djb was just some manalone. perhaps more talented than most, but manalone is manalone, like a very talented chimp. howsoever talented, the chimp's not a person.
mircea_popescu: the cohen dork, ~claimed it~. like rms or linus or hwatever other, "cypherpunks" / "internet freedom" blablabla. like the piratebay dorks, like zimmerman, and so on.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-11 19:49 asciilifeform: so presently i cannot think of a scenario where i'd want to reopen the case of gcd.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-04 00:46 asciilifeform: ru pathologists refer to subj as 'wax fetus', can't recall what it is in eng
nicoleci: asciilifeform, glad it finally came - i really enjoyed reading it. probably one of the more bizarre transactions
nicoleci: tbh all of the articles have been very interesting
nicoleci: its been a pleasure transcribing them. really wish it was something they speak on in us schools, instead of trying to teach the periodic table by a song but w/e.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-06 15:09 mircea_popescu: which is how every god damned kid that was sexually abused through the process of socialist schooling (which is all of them -- education is education, and socialist school is definitionally sexual abuse of all children involved) ends up with the idea that newton sat down TO discover whatever he did (unimportant, really) and THEREFORE he did.
nicoleci: true, im trying to get over my bitterness of all of the stolen time by the usg.
nicoleci: asciilifeform, figure 31 on the illustration relates to the article
nicoleci: (lower right corner) the transactions grouped the images from multiple articles on one or two pages
trinque: this kind of bitterness imho is of the "nose to spite face" variety.
trinque: can yeah, hate 'em in the present frame. nobody's taking me back to high-and-20 to could've-been-moar in an imaginary branch.
trinque: didn't say forgive. more a comment on whether the mind dwells on a missed opportunity to strike yesterday than on striking today.
nicoleci: yeah i can see that how useless to entertain the past. even so, not sure on the resolve of managing the abundance of how much i need to learn and how little i know.
PeterL: trinque: I am looking at building Cuntoo. Quick question: would there be anything detrimental to having MAKEOPTS set too high? (I see it is set to -j8 at one point in the script, but I only have 2 processors?)
PeterL: ah, thanks asciilifeform.
PeterL: !!v 182852A1C11CD09E84AF66632D1473BE7829A00F43B490203B0DD19A8D41185A
deedbot: PeterL rated diana_coman 1 << Wrote eucrypt, keccac implementation, etc. - ossasepia.com
PeterL: !!v E9385FF7FBE438EA5E1BDAD216EEC207E80CFDFB9CC28DF359E4E38F196EA67E
deedbot: PeterL rated phf 1 << excellent log, vtools - btcbase.org/log barksinthewind.com
trinque: PeterL: you'll also potentially find out where parallelism bugs exists in ebuilds
PeterL: so you mean it is less likely to have bugs pop up if I lower the number?
trinque: no, I'm not saying "this ritual is how you avoid the bad". I'm saying that cranking the number of parallel jobs will reveal whether builds rely on implicit race-condition ordering, vs having been written correctly with the whole dependency graph of the build expressed in makefile.
trinque: interesting question, what happens when I crank the parallelism to 11, go find out why dont you.
BingoBoingo: "El impacto fue registrado por las cámaras de seguridad" << It is a great shame that video isn't out yet
BingoBoingo: Well, gotta do something during the waiting.
BingoBoingo: !!v 9558A5ECF5CAA3C1E040CBA3E8BAABAD6EE7D18B33B3253CC0F61B0992A07B75
BingoBoingo: Gotta take notes while the reading is fresh
a111: Logged on 2018-08-04 22:08 asciilifeform: this being said, i personally would prefer exodus from fleanode to happen on our schedule, rather than in the wake of a catastrophic drop of it into complete unusability.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-04 22:05 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc i proposed at one time an intermediate item on the way to proper gossipd ( 'serpent'-ciphered tunneler to connect coupla ircd instances to each other, and ditto for users ( get otp cookie a la deedbot, get a key that's good for 1 tcp connect ) but so far instead followed mircea_popescu's advice re not wasting sweat on such a thing, but pushing with ffa so as to get with what to gossipd.
diana_coman:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-12#1901514 -> I'm for moving; the only reason for staying was being busy with tending to other fires that burnt worse but freenode seems to be burning worse and worse lately anyway; a multi-network bridge sounds best in my opinion but I don't really know how much work needs to be put in to get that.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2019-03-12 18:43 hanbot:
http://trilema.com/2019/the-freenode-issue/ << i'm for moving, seeing no compelling reason to stay. pinging asciilifeform ave1 ben_vulpes bingoboingo danielpbarron diana_coman lobbes mod6 phf spyked trinque for inputs.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-12 06:10 trinque: on second thought, lets not go to efnet. 'tis a silly place.
BingoBoingo: Well, they had the good sense to keep it linked on their front page after the Snowden leaks made it to "GHCQ fucking with IRC"
BingoBoingo: Alarm's been tripped. Warning light stays lit until every Buckingham Palace occupant takes a traffic cone up the ass.
diana_coman: at any rate, the move + multi-network wrapper approach seems to me like an excellent way for one to learn and be in a prime position for gossipd really
diana_coman: what the troubles are in practice; note that I'm not talking about "bake glue" but rather a full run servers
diana_coman: asciilifeform, do you mean that a person who made and ran this multi-bridge infrastructure across how many irc networks has gained no useful knowledge for running a gossipd-based service?
BingoBoingo: There's likely logistics lessons to be learned. Timings necessary to keep conenctions open and other tcp weird.
hanbot: asciilifeform: i'd trust a gossipd operator that'd also operated the ircd bridge above one who hadn't, other things being comparable.
hanbot: asciilifeform, you have a very narrowly construed "explain to me what the learning benefit of X is". this is not how my life experience worked out; if it were possible to explain to the ignorant the benefits of education, education itself would work very differently from how it actually works.
trinque: eh this isn't going to teach anyone anything they wouldn't have learned running any other server farm. I and I'm sure several people already do, or have.
hanbot: you will learn not what you know you do not know, but what you do not know you do not know. and, most important, whether there even is something there you do not know or not.
hanbot: well...it's a large pile of strange that none of us seriously delved into. iono what's in there. do you know what's in there?
trinque: hanbot: yeah, I'm already running an IRC server elsewhere. there is no high magic in it, only low trivia.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 22:12 mircea_popescu: "most people, when faced with a problem, will not investigate the cause of the problem, but will instead want to solve it because the problem is actually in the way of something more important than figuring out why something suddenly got in their way out of nowhere. if you are a programmer, you may reach for perl at this point, and perl can remove your problem. happy, you go on, but find another problem blocking your way, r
hanbot: and as to microsoft specifically, i do trust your opinion on microsoft above the opinion of microsoft of an imaginary asciilifeform that never touched it. this is exactly what i meant about finding out whether there's even anything there.
hanbot: trinque: is it like a gameserver or something?
hanbot: you mean other than bash, right? :D
trinque: hanbot: just stood it up for the sake of exactly this impending need
☟︎ hanbot: better man, yes, but not necessarily better x86-ologist.
trinque: again, only trivia involved. I've also run clusters of postgres, fleets of webservers, etc etc etc
a111: Logged on 2018-07-21 21:18 trinque: in compounding ironies, I stood up my own ircd_ratbox earlier out of curiosity
hanbot: trinque: okay, but by the same logic people shouldn't implement loggers or whatever else. if it's not useful for you, it's still useful for them.
hanbot: in the sense that at some point they've gotta do something
trinque: people are not this undifferentiated category. yes for students, running an ircd is a great idea, like bots or w/e else.
trinque: the upstack claim was that this will help design gossipd. *only* as antipattern and study of antipatterns does not by itself yield sense.
hanbot: all this might even be true.
hanbot: prolly should put it in a trilema comment tho'.
trinque: hanbot: realtime digestion then proposal in my case.
trinque: absent the "this will be somehow instructive" there's the practical need for infrastructure with which I 100% agree
trinque: ah, I hadn't even realized he couldn't connect *at all*
BingoBoingo: Well, been reading docs. EFnet has few. These networks appear to in fact promise different things
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at first i thought you went through the list of old dns responses/old servers and fished out one inexplicably not on mine
mircea_popescu: anyways. im pretty sure this wasn't answering ~six hours ago.
mircea_popescu: but the idea is, come up with a network by tomorrow. that work ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: EFnet doesn't have passwords for IRC users. Just their forum tards. EFnet doesn't provide auth at all.
mircea_popescu: the correct approach would be to go in their admin channels whatever they are, talk to the ops, see who would welcome more servers.
hanbot aims nailgun @ quakenet
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't get it, you object to antique motd ?
mircea_popescu: and incidentally! shouldn't you be ffaing or something ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform far from it. you do your thing, other people'll do this thing.
mircea_popescu: fwis, trinque already got one being tortured for the past six months ; depending on other workload mebbe BingoBoingo or spyked feel like putting one up also (but very much do not fall into the tarpit of chasing butterflies, from one to the next and catching none, fellas).
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