tmsr - Search: x60

ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-07 05:07:30 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-06#1954435 <-- I'm not convinced it will, tbh. atm buying an existing corebootable board is a much cheaper alternative (for gpg at least) than supporting a new one, on account of http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-05#1954371 ; might work on the long term when the supplies for e.g. x60 will be exhausted, but even then, trying to make sense of closed t

spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-06#1954435 <-- I'm not convinced it will, tbh. atm buying an existing corebootable board is a much cheaper alternative (for gpg at least) than supporting a new one, on account of http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-05#1954371 ; might work on the long term when the supplies for e.g. x60 will be exhausted, but even then, trying to make sense of closed t

a111: Logged on 2017-01-11 18:50 asciilifeform: http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/x60_diddled.bin

a111: Logged on 2016-03-03 20:46 asciilifeform: i eventually put back the heathen bios on the x60, BUT i ida'd it and nop'd out the imbecile nic whitelist

asciilifeform: iirc we had a thrd about this at one pt. x60 apparently came in at least 3 variants

asciilifeform: x60 is sadly rare nao, but the rubbish box i sent to spyked has same chipset, he can say later if confirms this benchmark.

asciilifeform: bvt: with straight (no asmisms) 64bit ffa, i found ~exactly 2x slower on x60 than on the 2393

bvt: this would actually be interesting for x60 machine owners as well. the register pressure would also increase on i386

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910612 << if it's an older lappy, can do what i did with 'x60' ( stuff in 'atheros' mpci card ) , these -- worked ☝︎

asciilifeform: ^ loox like theoretically afflicts even the venerable x60-era intels. ( aside from the detail that ddr2 aint, as i currently understand, rowhammerable )

a111: Logged on 2019-02-07 16:49 asciilifeform: in other cuntooisms : if anyone is short a x64 box to test-fire cuntoo with, asciilifeform has a surplus disposable box, 'lenovo s10-3' , with that same chipset as in x60 etc period ( https://archive.is/Dny84 ) , if anyone in l1 wants, it's yours for the cost of postage ( has a mechanical hdd in it, i fughet of what size )

asciilifeform: in other cuntooisms : if anyone is short a x64 box to test-fire cuntoo with, asciilifeform has a surplus disposable box, 'lenovo s10-3' , with that same chipset as in x60 etc period ( https://archive.is/Dny84 ) , if anyone in l1 wants, it's yours for the cost of postage ( has a mechanical hdd in it, i fughet of what size ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you find that you wanna experiment with the x60, you will like that the radio nic comes out without hacksaws & drills ( 1 screw ) .

asciilifeform: ( aside from that, it's more or less same thing as x60, but with slightly smaller and substantially cheaper-feeling kbd )

a111: Logged on 2019-02-06 15:32 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for that matter, the starvation-cheap machine in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2993 , 'samsung n150', same chipset as x60 . cost me exactly fiddybux on fleamarkets.

mircea_popescu: ok, so to be perfectly clear -- thinkpad x60, released by lenovo cca 2006, comes with Intel Core Duo T2400 / 1.83 GHz processor, which is a 32 bit processor.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you do, get the x60 ( asciilifeform , phf, using w/ patched bios & old gentoo )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for that matter, the starvation-cheap machine in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2993 , 'samsung n150', same chipset as x60 . cost me exactly fiddybux on fleamarkets. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-10-11 17:08 asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf i recently found that lcd panel made by (defunkt) 'pixelqi co', pq3qi-01 , is still sold by chinese ( i have nfi if clones, or old stock ), ~100 $ ea; the thing toggles from 1024x600 colour/backlit into a 3072x600 greyscale reflector thing, worx with various lappies ( sadly not x60, it's a 16:9 )

asciilifeform: ( and later x60 is pretty much a physically shrunken version of that box, with slightly faster cpu )

a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 21:16 asciilifeform: 'First of all you can’t get power to charge your laptop. Anywhere. Electrical outlets in customer areas: it’s just not done here' << sounds like the ultimate trial for us x60 folk

asciilifeform: 'First of all you can’t get power to charge your laptop. Anywhere. Electrical outlets in customer areas: it’s just not done here' << sounds like the ultimate trial for us x60 folk ☟︎

asciilifeform: sadly the box it ended up going in, is nuffin to write home about ( slightly slower than the goldstandard x60, and smaller, and sad kbd ) but it worx as described

asciilifeform: ( my old workhorse x60 is not a cuntoo, it is in fact my original deloused-gentoo platform on which i derived the poetteringism-exclusion, gcc<5, etc flags and related items )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: specifically, it cannot sit down in the beloved x60 or any other 4:3

lobbesbot: phf: Sent 1 hour and 48 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> i recently found that lcd panel made by (defunkt) 'pixelqi co', pq3qi-01 , is still sold by chinese ( i have nfi if clones, or old stock ), ~100 $ ea; the thing toggles from 1024x600 colour/backlit into a 3072x600 greyscale reflector thing, worx with various lappies ( sadly not x60, it's a 16:9 )

asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf i recently found that lcd panel made by (defunkt) 'pixelqi co', pq3qi-01 , is still sold by chinese ( i have nfi if clones, or old stock ), ~100 $ ea; the thing toggles from 1024x600 colour/backlit into a 3072x600 greyscale reflector thing, worx with various lappies ( sadly not x60, it's a 16:9 ) ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: and i suspect the x60 is at least partly answerable for their getting thicker

asciilifeform: phf: at one time there were rumours of a ips panel that could be stuffed into x60 and had compatible connector/timings , but afaik it's just that, rumour, i was never able to get close to one

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: on top of crappleism -- actually ~slower~ than x60, and smaller battery, and shit kbd

phf: it was left behind on the x60, and picking up x60 again reminds me just how nice of machine it is

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the sad-802.11 thing is endemic ( recall asciilifeform's recipe of how to terraform ibm x60 . step 1 is to pull out the wireless nic and stuff in ye olde atheros )

a111: Logged on 2016-03-03 20:46 asciilifeform: i eventually put back the heathen bios on the x60, BUT i ida'd it and nop'd out the imbecile nic whitelist

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at this point this is a decade-long pestilence, even asciilifeform's x60 (circa 2009, iirc) terraforming recipe includes patching bios to permit hand-installed nic to work , followed by installation of same

asciilifeform: PeterL: if it's a 'common' iron, e.g. x60, or pizarro opteron, or rockchip -- then can base it off a asciilifeform

phf: i treat the x60 battery purely as a ups, which yes makes it pretty useless for travel. can break it out on amtrak or at a hotel that's pretty much it

phf: asciilifeform: the way it looks x60 is not going to be replaced anytime soon, but it's running freebsd, and i avoid putting unstable stuff on it. i want a linux box for messy hacking though.

asciilifeform had some headaches in BingoBoingostan with x60 lappy (had to bring ~something~ to use for setup) , had to connect from a few places that had no mains, and battery was limiting factor. and x60 is heavy, occupied valuable launch capsule mass )

asciilifeform: swiftgeek: if you are a thinkpad aficionado, there is a patched x60 bios in the logs, iirc 2015

phf: i used to get comments about ibook in the early 2000s, like old boomer types asking me about y2k or whatever. get the same reaction with x60 now, some guy on amtrak wanted to talk about bitcoin

asciilifeform: ( massive tank of a box, 32G, 8core thing, multiple drive slots, kg power brick, etc . but still sad and shallow, vs x60, not even speaking of troo desktop, kbd )

spyked: asciilifeform, could please expand re. "blobulent arm"? it's allwinner a53 afaik? I have no comments re. all other points other than: judging from what I hear, only alternative seems "bake own case/kbd/other parts or reuse ones from x60/whatever".

phf: i'm not sure how practical that makes patch page though, it definitely doesn't open on my x60. i could perhaps introduce some split mode, where patch page only lists the hunk filenames, and you need to click on hunk to see the contents

a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 15:58 phf: asciilifeform: i'm establishing scope, rather then actually doing anything. firefox on my x60 has an uper limit on tabs i have open, because it runs out of memory, so i started thinking that this ain't no way to live :>

phf: asciilifeform: i'm establishing scope, rather then actually doing anything. firefox on my x60 has an uper limit on tabs i have open, because it runs out of memory, so i started thinking that this ain't no way to live :> ☟︎

asciilifeform: and yes i also will be replacing my x60 with it, if/when i get the time to finish this to a decent state

phf: asciilifeform: hey, have you had further progress with the chromebook? i'm thinking of replacing my x60 with it, or rather i want to try a portable cuntoo install, without nuking existing setup

asciilifeform: fwiw there are a number of proggies i was not able to build on that x60 , under my gentoo banflag-list . e.g. 'chromium', number of others.

a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 15:20 phf: asciilifeform: by the way, freebsd's ports system (i tried it on a machine that can actually compile things, unlike x60) is a little bit more configurable than pkgsrc/openbsd, so you can actually disable dbus in emacs or firefox! but the lulz of lulz, firefox depends on gtk3, where you can't configure out dbus, so presumably it gets pulled anyway.

phf: asciilifeform: by the way, freebsd's ports system (i tried it on a machine that can actually compile things, unlike x60) is a little bit more configurable than pkgsrc/openbsd, so you can actually disable dbus in emacs or firefox! but the lulz of lulz, firefox depends on gtk3, where you can't configure out dbus, so presumably it gets pulled anyway. ☟︎

asciilifeform: iirc asciilifeform actually posted a binturd bios once, that he cracked ( for stinkpad x60 , which normally refuses aftermarket nic )

asciilifeform: oh before i fughet, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-08#1695461 benchmark is 0.8s on crapple shitbook, and 2.52s on ye olde workhorse x60 ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-01-11 18:50 asciilifeform: http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/x60_diddled.bin

asciilifeform: 'no one will believe, but i find the fixation with ancient iron, counterproductive', said asciilifeform from old x60 lappy

phf: did anybody do a musl sbcl? i have a musl cmucl in the backlog, but way down the list (perhaps once i get this x60 going)

asciilifeform: phf: i'm not a raving fan of the x60 -- can barely stand looking at the tft lcd.

asciilifeform: ABSOLUTELY no guarantee, it is conceivable that your x60 differs somehow, undocumentedly, from my x60, and will detonate.

phf: nah, just wanted to play mm7 on my mac. if i was building nostalgiatron, i'd just put a windows 95 on it, tbh. if i don't put an x60 to good use, i might just that to it

asciilifeform: i would personally throw out all but x60 if it were possible to fit an ips glass into it